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HM3 Ratigan USN 1987-1993, Once a Doc Always a DOC #fundie forum.myspace.com

I only mentioned Europe because it is a prime example of what can happen when you contracept the hell out of your country and have abortion on demand. It doesn't mean I want you to start pumping out babies. I was simply pointing out the dangers of widespread abortions and contraception going unchecked.

(A higher standard of living doesn't seem that bad to me.)

Sounds nice on the surface. But what happens when the Famed French or Italian culture dies out? You do know they are filling more coffins than cradles. Germany is in the same boat as well as Russia and Japan. And in a lot of parts of Africa as well.

crip #fundie forum.myspace.com

A woman should have her ovaries ripped out without anestiesia if she wants an abortion so bad, try a coathanger? Those women deserve to be exiled, its not right no matter what you say on abortion. Ignorant little girl

HM3 Ratigan USN 1987-1993, Once a Doc Always a DOC #fundie forum.myspace.com

[The pill has been a god-send. Not to get too TMI, but my periods were never THAT bad before I went on the pill (at 19). Then one month I stopped taking it because I went abroad and figured I wouldn't need it. Well, my period came back with a vengance!!]

Now if that don't prove how the pill traps you than I don't know what does. Wow! Did you ever stop to think that it was the pill's fault that your period came back with such a vengance? Did you ever stop to think that it was the pills fault that your periods are now more painful? Did you ever stop to think that it was the pills fault that you are now afraid to go off of it again? UMMMMMMMMM I'm thinking no. ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY PLANNED PARENTHOOD! THE PROVIDER OF PAIN AND SUFFERING. Now let's all be good little girls and turn a blind eye to it and embrace our womanhood that has been destroyed in the name of the almighty dollar!

HM3 Ratigan USN 1987-1993, Once a Doc Always a DOC #fundie forum.myspace.com

taking an innocent life has always been wrong in the eyes of God. Note the emphasis on Innocent Life. For years now the Pro-choice community has attempted to use the bible to justify their desire and supposed right to slaughter their unborn children. They will always be wrong. no matter how often you attempt to gloss over the abortion issue abortion will always be the taking of an innocent life. You can't make killing an innocent child sound Patriotic, or american, or heroic or beautiful. Nor can you convince the pro-life world that abortion is a right guaranteed to all women. Killing is killing not matter how many times you gloss it over. Spending hours upon hours scouring the bible looking for loopholes will not convince any pro-life or God that abortion is not the killing of an innocent human being. Whether that human being be a newly concieved fetus or a 8 month 29 day old baby born a few days early it has a God given right to live. A right given to he or she by God and like or not only God can take away that right. He is the author of life. I know it is not what you pro-choice people want to hear. You don't want to hear that God has control over your lives, bodies and souls. Get over it. Behave and embrace all life and we will all be better because of it.

. california rest in peace . <3 #fundie forum.myspace.com

[a bitch by definition is a female dog, but even a female dog loves and tend for their puppies]

yah thats true. shes not a female, not a human, less than a dog. Why is it that innocent children are sent to slaughter, yet women like her have such privelaged life?

[because although she is immoral she is a person and does have intrinsic value as much as anyone else. she and those abort however do not have nay more value then any other living human.]

i know yet they assume that they are more important than the child they kill. Murderous bitches.

Shawn #fundie forum.myspace.com

we could educate people that they will be put in jail for having a back alley abortion. because its kind of murder. Its not a matter of choice here less then three percent are from rape or the chance that the mother may lose her life. that means that more then 97% chose to spread their legs, and since we have been told since we were 10 what could happen if you have sex, their is not excuse for allowing people to skip out on the consequences of their decisions. Then if you actually look at the intrinsic value that all life has you come to this conclusion it is the same thing to say that an unborn baby has less intrinsic value then that of a born child because they have the same chance for survival, that is zero if they are left on their own. Also you find that it is very similar to saying a person has less intrinsic value because of their race, religion, sexual orientation, physical or mental handicap. based on that argument anyone who is not genetically perfect should be killed. Hey wait that sounds familiar what famous Nazi dictator thought that way ?

Bridget and Crip #fundie forum.myspace.com

Bridget: ahh you know they dont like common sense especially when its the truth... especially the guy who is saying that abortion is genocide if they really knew the definition of genocide maybe just maybe they might change their view about whether or not genocide is abortion or not lol

Crip: CORRECTION:
Abortion is holocaust NOT genocide. Look it up women.

. california rest in peace . <3 #fundie forum.myspace.com

(There should be restrictions on guns)

says you. I think it was better in the 1800's when ppl were more educated about guns and everyone knew how to use them. Education is key. Yah, sure you'll have a bunch of columbines and shootings if you teach your kids that guns are bad, they associate guns with evil deeds. Guns are not bad, and we have no reason to fear them.

(Last time I checked, ABORTION WAS NOT COMPULSORY.)

ya but libs hate children.

(There have to be environmental regulations.)

That is a complete lie. It actually made me laugh. Do some research, for real. Not everyone has 80, 000 dollars to go purchase a crampt hybrid, especially when you have 5 kids or have to use your rig in 4x4 to get to your house, or haul heavy shit like 200 gallons of water or a travel trailor. People with your mentality are completily ignorant.

Zach Eineman #fundie forum.myspace.com

[On atheists]

You can live however you want, you can saarch for answers, and search, and search, or accept that there is possibly no earthly reason to answer it. I feel bad for you, a life of questions missing their answers. A lifetime of no faith, no reason, no thought process. A life of denial, and refuting, but never giving a solution. I suggest you go to church, you don't need to keep going, but give er another try, it helps even if you don't neccessarily believe, it may do wonders for you, open up some doors.

[...]

I pity those without faith, nothing wrong with that, it's called empathy.

. california rest in peace . <3 #fundie forum.myspace.com

(If liberals want to control women, why do they support a woman's right to choose an abortion?)

They chose to have sex, they made THEIR OWN BED and now, they gotta sleep in it, why should that be the only do-over in life? Ya know what, If i buy a car and it breaks 2 days later, Im shit outta luck.I gotta live with that choice. There shouldnt be do overs in life man, it makes for an ungreatful society.
Liberals, dont even get me started. Ok, they control a womans right to:
own a gun
use a gun
hunt
fish
own a pet
give birth (by viewing it as expendable life)
smoke
drive an inefficeient vehicle
pray in public
use certain words(like that lib governer who tried to outlaw the word nigger)
live a simple life by having less taxes
give her opinion against gays
would you like more examples?
Sure a chick can kill her kid, by libs control everything else. So she has one "right" its still a lib control tactic, by making women feel like they have power, they dont realize they are being controlled.
peace out.

Propaganda #fundie forum.myspace.com

the argument that "its not illegal to commit feticide... therefore its not illegal"

is off base

why is feticide legal?... why should a perfectly healthy woman undergoing a perfectly healthy pregnancy be allowed to option of killing her perfectly healthy fetal son or daughter?

Rockabilly #fundie forum.myspace.com

Someone please riddle me this. Why do Pro-Choice people want to kill a baby, but they are generally against the death penalty, and want to allow killers and rapists to live. This really does not make sense to me.

Scott #fundie forum.myspace.com

Adam and Eve are said to be the parents of all creation and they are humans on earth. So, no. God did not create other people on other planets. If there is "something out there", it's probably just demonic spirits.

Marcus #homophobia forum.myspace.com

If you are born a Homosexual, meaning you have no Choice. They find a gene that declares you to be homosexual and can find it in the womb...Can I have an abortion if I find out my Baby is Gay?

There is no need for a Homosexual baby, they are no use to the human race... I would abort a homosexual baby.

El Guapo #fundie forum.myspace.com

let's get serious here for just one second, who shouts down any lecturer that is giving an opposing view? The Liberals. Who tries to scilence those with opposing views by calling them fascists? The Liberals. The only reason liberals label people with opposing views as fascists is because the liberals have no response when faced with an intellectual debate...therefore have nothing to say...therefore are silenced...therefore we're fascists cuz they're dumb.

Marcus #homophobia forum.myspace.com

If you are born a Homosexual, meaning you have no Choice. They find a gene that declares you to be homosexual and can find it in the womb...Can I have an abortion if I find out my Baby is Gay?

There is no need for a Homosexual baby, they are no use to the human race... I would abort a homosexual baby.

Marcus #fundie forum.myspace.com

The truth is that the fear of "Bothched Abortions" is still a Slipper Slope argument... And thus this question still has not been answered.... If it has been answered andI overlooked it, I apologize it is hard to fish out any good responses in 10 pages of nonsense.

And besides that getting is Clothes Hangar abortion is about as selfish an act as Suicide.

Spider Jerusalem #fundie forum.myspace.com

Fuck that, I think goverment should make abortion illegal. And if they won't, then the goverment needs to be destroyed. Make equal oppurtunity murder. If people want to abort the child, then they should have to risk being killed themself by clinic bombers. That's fair and reasonable. Survival of the fittest. The strong and lucky decide what is and isn't acceptable, but only to the point of thier own survival will allow.

If I have to stomache being told what to do and pay taxes, I damn well be better getting something in return. And all I want is illegalized abortions and more sexual regulations. If the goverment can't give me that, then I see no reason to allow the goverment to exsist.

Me #fundie forum.myspace.com

(getting a shot to "flush" the embryo out of your system at 5 or 6 weeks gestation is QUITE different from a 27 week abortion)

This is the problem women go in and get abortions with out even knowing the fetal development. Beating heart arms legs. Brain waves detected. Many people believe they are just removing a little ball of tissue. The problem is it is a little ball of tissue that looks like a baby.

Nativity In Black #fundie forum.myspace.com

(the issue isn't about whether or not evolution exists. Sure, it exists.)

wrong evolution has been disproven

they found some many examples heres one

they found a fossalized dinosaur inside a fossalized mammel

but evolution says that mammels came millions of years later

Reagan Jr. #fundie forum.myspace.com

Liberal Pledge of Allegiance

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the united nations, and to the socialist doctrine for which it stands, one mindset, under secular humanism, inflexible, with forced equality of outcome, and moral relativism for all.

sarah #fundie forum.myspace.com

There's a reason the divorce rate skyrocketed once people started marrying for something as fickle as love. People have only been marrying for love since fairly recently. It's not something to place your bets on.

~*Steph*~ is pro-life AND PRO-LOVE!!! #fundie forum.myspace.com

Ok, well this is me attacking one dumb ass pro-choicer...you are a fucking cunt ass bitch Sarah. I honestly have horrible wishes for your future. Im so glad to know that I will not be reading your nonsence anymore. Go throw your bullshit at someone else.

As for the rest of you, I will not name names because all of you disgust me, I wish you all pain and suffereing for the rest of your miserable lives. As for me, I will continue planning my wonderful wedding, HAVING beautiful babies, and having faith in GOD.

Captain Joe #fundie forum.myspace.com

[So the ONLY purpose of marriage is to procreate, its got nothing to do with love and making a lifetime commitment?]

nope. since the beginning of mankind, it was to progress the species, not to allow fags to get tax benefits

kathy m #fundie forum.myspace.com

Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots and Earth's Abominations... the Last Days Roman Temple has 'married' it's paganism to biblical faith, but Yahweh tells his people to "come out of her my people..." This Great Harlot has many "daughters" thus this paganized Christianity has permeated the Earth, and some no longer can tell the difference betwixt the true Faith of the Nazarene and it's fierce rival the so called "Harlot" church or Roman Temple. It is called a harlot, because it is prostituted to paganism in it's concepts and applications. and do join my group Messiah Yahshua Disciples! Welcome to the Threshold of Eternity! Once you identify this Abomination, you can figure out how to identify the Antichrist. Yahweh bless you in Yahshua's great and saving name!

Agaro #fundie forum.myspace.com

my point is that if gravity brought asteroids and meteors together, the cells would be crushed by either the rock and/or the gravity.

but thats only hundreds of miles away. (between the core and the surface) its even stronger more towards the core of each planet. so, when the planets were first forming, the cells would be crushed under all that gravity, even when jupiter got started. we all know that the smaller the planet, the more gravity there is.

plus its hard to believe that cells have just landed on earth and started evolving w/o sever casulties from burning up in the atmosphere.

cute lil crip <3 #fundie forum.myspace.com

[Too bad they're not adopting all the children in orphanages (Instead of putting up pro-life billboards). That would be a better use of their money, and more importantly, it would show that they are leading by example.]

there are no orphanages in america
read a fucking newspaper

Crip <3 #fundie forum.myspace.com

i dont care how you "feel"
this isnt some pansy club where we all sit around and share eachothers sob stories
this thread is about killing babies
dont fuck with them
becuase when you die
they'll be grown
and be in hell waiting for payback for what u did to them.

cute lil crip <3 #fundie forum.myspace.com

I live where all life is important and we shouldnt pick who lives and dies

[Aren't you the one who told me that your people lynch pedophiles from time to time?]

GUILTY ppl
what crime has a baby commited?
being alive?

u do the crime- u pay the price
i love living in a place where ppl get the justice they deserve!
We should not pick who lives and who dies- you are right
the person picks weather they are worthy of life.

crip <3 #fundie forum.myspace.com

["The Galloping Ghost" Ned Spencer wrote:
So a woman is raped and becomes pregnant. Which implies she was impregnated against her will. She shouldn't be able to have an abortion? That's great if she keeps it, but she shouldn't be forced to go through with the pregnancy. Especially if she cannot possibly support a child and the emotional burdon that come along with it.]

see that is the problem- your attitude is so pessimestic
you dont appreciate what you are given
and see this as a burden not a gift
a baby is still a baby and deserves life the same as you or I
evn from rape
ppl are ppl
and are gifts so ya

Zack #fundie forum.myspace.com

why does gay marriage offend u and ur religion? its against mine and i dont take kindly to 2 homos stealing the sacred bond between a man and a women and pretty much raping the term of a marriage and getting married in a church which should completly oppose the idea of gay marriage much less allow the act.

Michael #fundie forum.myspace.com

last time a checked, the result of our actions is something that we're usually made to be responsible for. Sex and baby making are not somthing that you can separate. The fact is, whether or not your body makes a baby or not is not somthing that you choose to do or not. The only thing that you can consent to is sex. Therefore, the CHOICE is whether to have sex or not.

If consenting to your body making a baby was a "choice" to be made then there would be nothing to abort, because you could just refuse to consent to it being there in the first place. But its there, you already consented to it being there when you had sex

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