Liberal censorship refers to liberal attempts to mute all opposition to liberal beliefs. This has become a core tenet of liberalism, and is an almost exclusively liberal practice in modern times
Such attempts to remove first amendment rights (see Fairness Doctrine), along with gun control and the outlawing of creation science and even homeschooling, have led many critics to note the parallel between the modern liberal movement and 20th century totalitarian regimes. The censorship of school prayer is consistent with Fascist beliefs
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So I know Andy isn’t really into… facts. But this thing about liberals outlawing homeschooling is stuff I’ve only seen said about liberals on conservative sites with no links to any sources. You know liberals homeschool their kids too, right? Oh wait… you’d have to acknowledge that liberals are humans and not the demons you want us to be.
...thus the very s(h)ite you're saying this: after Andy Schaftafly's experience with Wikipedia made him so salty, he left in a huff and created this Vanity Project.
Because Reality has a liberal bias.
Because no 'bias' exists on your 'alternative', Andy & co.: to the extent that so much as breathing a word about RationalWiki results in an immediate permaban, eh...?!
Conservative censorship refers to conservative attempts to mute all opposition to conservative beliefs. This has become a core tenet of conservatives, and is an almost exclusively conservative practice in modern times
Such attempts to remove first amendment rights (see Fairness Doctrine), along with opposition to gun control and the demand for creation “science” in science classes and pushing homeschooling, have led many critics to note the parallel between the modern conservative movement and 20th century totalitarian regimes. The promotion of “the Covid-19 plandemic” ideas is consistent with Fascist beliefs.
"Such attempts to remove first amendment rights"
The only Amendment the alt-right even pretends to honor is the 2nd, which they reinterpret to ignore 'a well-ordered militia' and just figure they have infinite right to armament.
So they think the 1st grants them infinite right to spew their bullshit when/where they desire. But a citizen saying, 'Shut the fuck up!' is not infringing on your free speech in any way at all.
Not how it works.
"...the outlawing of creation science..."
Nowhere is creation science outlawed you babbling idiot. Go read the bible anywhere you want, research the science of reading the bible. What's outlawed is teaching it as fact in science classes in state schools.
"...and even homeschooling,"
The only thing i can think of is that the state does have educational standards that must be met in order to homeschool. And from the butchering of logic, law and language above, someone takes those standards as a personal attack.
@arp #112065
Exactly. Two years ago, a private company made a business decision to stop publishing some books that weren’t selling well. A YEAR after this, the GOP started screaming about the Libs censoring Dr. Seuss, like it was something that had people out rioting in the streets over.
For most of those on the far-right, getting their word out, and getting people to acknowledge that their word is the absolute truth, is a moral imperative. In addition, keeping “vulnerable” people (particularly children) from learning other views, and preventing others from acknowledging other views as any sort of truth, is also a moral imperative. They view what constitutes “censorship” through the lens of that imperative, not the legal sense of the term. It’s not really cognitive dissonance when you’re operating from that kind of framing, but it definitely causes cultural dissonance.
@Zinnia #112085
It’s scary to think that way. I used to be this way years ago. It was not a good existence. I often tried to break free, but it wouldn’t last.
I credit two things to breaking me free for good.
I learned what Gnosticism was and that there was a bunch of ancient scriptures that stated that the BibleGod that’s a raging genocidal prude is not real. That was the starting point, mind you…
I learned that many great religious miracles were likely fabrications, myths or misunderstandings. It’s hard to leave strict religious groups if you think the miracles are real. I would waffle between being a “Charismaniac” holy roller and a Conservative Roman Catholic and when I found out that…
* Stuff like being “slain in the spirit”, “speaking in tongues, etc. is little more than psychology and hypnotic suggestion.
* The incorruptible Saints can be explained as very well-preserved natural or adipocere mummies, some with ultra-realistic wax masks and “gloves” covering hands and faces (like with Saints and Beatified such as Bernadette Soubirous, Padre Pio and Pope John XXIII). Some saints labeled “Incorruptible” are straight-forward dried-out mummies (Like St. Catherine of Siena’s head). Some are just skeletons inside of effigies or outright fakey wax dummies. I don’t deny the holiness of these people or whatever spiritual power there may be… but none of them are corpses that miraculously refuse to decay.
* The Shroud of Turin was made in the Middle Ages.
It was stuff like these “miracles” that appeared as “proof” to me of the spiritual “reality” of fundie Christianity. However, when said proof is disproven, “Fundieanity” becomes a lot less genuine.
This was a start… mind you.
In a nutshell, being a fundie destroys the soul!
The only politician who ever banned homeschooling in recent times was Macron (so much for the liberalism he promissed!).
And there’s a reason why “creation sciences” are controversial: because they are utterly un-scientific.
Strange - as a lefty I'm expressing my staunch opposition to liberalism on a daily basis - and I not once got "muted" by any non-conservative liberal.
Words have meanings, Andy.
This is rich, coming from the man who zealously bans & censors even the slightest disagreement or opposing viewpoints on his misinformation website. And who extols the virtues of widespread censorship when it comes to “protecting” children from learning life sciences, history, psychology, sociology, archaeology, anthropology (really, science in general), actual working economics, or any sort of facts whatsoever.
Says the person who wants to remove from the Bible what he considers to be "liberal corruption" (despite Deuteronomy 4:2, strange for a literalist creationist who doesn't consider all of the OT obsolete). Censorship and book burning is historically linked to fundamentalism, autoritarianism and superstitious taboos... But expect people to criticize your false claims or judgmental sermons.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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