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various commenters #transphobia

“You can't put a price on morale.”
Ah.
They made this EXACT argument about gays in the military. I remember that.
They made this EXACT argument about women on warships. I remember that.
They made this argument about blacks in foxholes with white guys, i heard.
I’ve heard similar complaints about muslims, atheists, Jedi, wizards, Mormons…
Turns out to be a molehill.

"Transgenders in the military drive down recruitment,”
Our recruitment IS down. I suspect 20 years of war with no gains to show for it is a bigger part of the problem than a chance you might run into a transgender service member. And Trump making noises about invading our allies to support our enemy can’t help, either.

“and they make our military look like a joke.”
Same as, same as, heard this all before, too.

“Social media is full of memes like this dunking on the US military”
I’m old enough to remember the Viet Nam war, and the media dunking on them, then. Just more of the same.

“Do you think China or Russia find this intimidating?”
Pretty sure what they find intimidating is whether our subs can find theirs or whether our jets can shoot their jets out of the sky. Which they fucking can.

"They're probably laughing at how far our military has fallen.”
Okay. Laughing doesn’t make missiles miss their targets.

I'm sorry, I must have missed the great technological shift in which U.S. troops are supposed to counter guns, bombs, tanks, planes and drones by waving their pee-pees.

BleakBassPlayer #fundie

The numberof the beast is an amount. Six hundred and sixty six. It’s not any random collection of three sixes.
Three sixes on a license plate spit out by the system are six, six, six, not six hundred and sixty six.
The parts of the bar code that resemble three sixes are not six hundred and sixty six.
You guys are flinching at straws.

Donald Trump #transphobia #wingnut #god-complex

@Malingspann #219397

Or Venus and Serena Williams and dozens of other black athletes. Also, Martina Navratilova was talked about this way which angers me even more that she got sucked into TERF ideology (she was also coached by Rene Richards who was a trans player in the 70s).

eugene c. chavez #fundie

“You seem to ignore God's mercy.”
God? An omnibenevolent being? A being of perfect mercy? That’s incompatible with the entire concept of Hell.
So, yes, i ignore appeals to an oxymoron.

“You don't believe in a merciful God;”
You don’t. You figure he’s selectively merciful, to you and people you approve of.

"He's just a myth to people like you.”
Better than the revenge fantasy Christains like to hold in their hearts.

“Because you live like animals you want to die like animals.”
We are animals, sweetie. Everything we do is done ‘like animals.’ Even when you pray, you pray ‘like animals.’

Kent Hovind #fundie #forced-birth

@jsonitsac #219317

Interesting info there, I never knew the origin of that word. I don’t remember if I came up with this idea myself, or someone said it to me, but when I was a kid, I thought that it was called “jaywalking” because if you were walking down the street and turned to cross it, your path would kinda look like the letter J. Hey, it made sense to me at the time, OK?

And of course Detroit, aka the Motor City, would come up with that!

Kabamur Taygeta #ufo #fundie #conspiracy

a pagan blood s*******e?

I’m assuming that’s supposed to be “sacrifice”…why in the hell does this person feel they have to self-censor that word? Yet they can say “being murdered for God” in the sentence before that and it’s just fine?

various commenters #transphobia

( Peppermint )
The article mentions that trans are a "small part of the population" so why do they also mention the fucking miracle that is thousands of trans in the US military?

Does Peppermint imagine that trans people being a "small part" of the US population means only thousands of them in the whole country?

Donald Trump #transphobia #wingnut #god-complex

If a biological woman has a condition that makes them more masculine they will be accused of actually being a man.

Like Caster Semenya or Imane Khelif.

Same result in the bathroom hysteria over here on TERF Island - my cis friend has been accused of being a man sneaking into the public bathroom just because of her stompy feet and jawline a few times over the last coupla years.

Ironically, one time she was harassed was when she was shopping with a trans friend who 'passed' better.

Tom Kratman #wingnut #psycho

various commenters #transphobia

The article mentions that trans are a "small part of the population" so why do they also mention the fucking miracle that is thousands of trans in the US military?

Sigh. A small part of a very large set can still be quite large. Simply googling “US Military” reveals that there are nearly 1.5 million active soldiers, so even less than one percent still means thousands.

Is the concept of relative vs. absolute size really so hard to grasp? Certainly, it is a concept anyone proclaiming themself a critical thinker on social and medical issues ought to be familiar with.

@Conscience #219354
Fundies Say The Darndest Things is explicitly not aiming to provide a representative or balanced image but to shine a highlight on “most hilarious, bizarre, ignorant, bigoted, and terrifying quotes”. To ignore this mission, to interpret FSTDT as the former, is nutpicking.

I am not saying that Ovarit is or is not having these discussions - I do not care to see for myself. But this felt like a pernicious fallacious generalisation worth addressing.

Tom Kratman #wingnut #psycho

Question: What engine ensured the North American P-51 Mustang in WWII was the air superiority - then ultimately air supremacy - fighter it was?

600,000+ US troops returning home alive in 1945 and not in boxes three years or more later. You can thank a certain Conservative Prime Minister who Don Old Fart admires - via a bust of him in the Oval Office - and a gay mathematical genius now on our £50 note.

Those M-777 Howitzers your US Army & Marines use. Via one of the biggest suppliers to the US Department of Defence. A Labour Prime Minister who promotes sales of what that supplier makes to your country today. Nice 155mm cannons your troops have. BAe Systems say ’You’re Welcome’. BAe:

As in British Aerospace.

Kabamur Taygeta #ufo #fundie #conspiracy

An Armchair Geopolitical Analyst #racist #wingnut #conspiracy

Soul:Ask #crackpot #magick #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy

All the fan art of Isabelle and Doom Slayer because of “Animal Crossing: New Horizons” and “DOOM Eternal” released on the same day.

Why, it’s as if Nintendo and id Software were collaborating, eh…?!

Doom Slayer’s in “Super Smash Bros”…!

(*Takes off Aluminium Praetor Helmet*) [/Doug Piranha-levels of sarcasm]

Red Pill Poet #wingnut #conspiracy

Donald Trump and Enrique Tarrio #wingnut

@Bastethotep

Mussolini had his Blackshirts

So did Mosley. Until that day at Cable Street.

When they became Browntrousers.

What happened to that which had ideas above its station.

Your public image & credibility is already strung up by the ankles in a gas one, Cheeto.

Perhaps one of your little Hitlers might ‘rescue’ you. Maybe.

various commenters #transphobia

Americans are aware that transgender military personnel don't serve in combat zones and so unlike most soldiers they do not put their lives on the line.

Well, to no one's surprise, this is a lie. According to the Human Rights Campaign:

There are thousands of transgender service members currently serving. Transgender service members wear the same uniform, take the same oath, and are held to the exact same rigorous standards as every other service member. They simply are not arbitrarily barred from service because of their gender identity.
Transgender troops have been serving openly and successfully since 2016, including hundreds who have deployed to combat zones. The Chiefs of Staff to each military branch have testified that there have been no negative impact on readiness. Additionally, data obtained by the Pentagon has shown that the cost of providing medical care to transgender troops has been miniscule.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/transgender-military-service#:~:text=They%20simply%20are%20not%20arbitrarily,have%20deployed%20to%20combat%20zones

Red Pill Poet #wingnut #conspiracy

Somewhere a Vogon is weeping in despair.

An Armchair Geopolitical Analyst #racist #wingnut #conspiracy

Tom Kratman #wingnut #psycho

Doctor Doom #fundie

“The assmites are the Web equivalent of vandals,”
Are pictures on your site ruined? Is your text taken down? Is anything spraypainted?
No, we note, but we don’t vandalize. Poor analogy.

“They are intellectually incapable of creating, so they therefore try to destroy what others create.”
Except we do nothing to destroy and you have no idea what i’ve created. I’d tell you, but you WOULD vandalize my comment page.

"The BB in question is an Internet slum.”
I thought the Bible had warnings not to commit name-calling? ‘Revilers will never get to Heaven’ and stuff like that?

“The lowest forms of life congregate, like cockroaches in a greasy-spoon kitchen, and amuse themselves and each other with their infantile "humor".”
Beats conservative humor, at any rate.
HUMOR challenges your world-view. Conservatives tell stories that reinforce their world view, then laugh in relief.

“They are toddlers sitting in a sandbox taking turns shouting, "POOPOO CACA DOODOO!" and giggling hysterically at how clever they are.”
Just a string of insults, none of it supported, huh?
Did you shit your pants in second grade? Have you never recovered from that humiliation?

“The only plus is that aside from their microminority of halfwits, no one knows about, let alone cares about, the board.”
No one? That’s a pretty big claim. How much of Teh Interwebs did you survey to make sure NO ONE knows about us, here? And why are you telling people about us, then?

Jake #fundie

“Women should wear long skirts or dresses”
For what reason is that a ‘should’? I went to school with a girl whose religion told her that.
Mine didn’t.

“and it's generally preferable if they avoid working outside the home once they have kids.”
And slowly starve on a single paycheck?

"However, if the man isn't getting it done financially then it may be his fault she has to work and not hers.”
Always has to be someone to blame, I see. how trite.

“Divorce should not be socially acceptable”
My sister divorced the guy that brought home so many sexually transmitted diseases that she is now sterile. Society can fuck all the way off.

“and we must do away with "no-fault" (aka, his-fault) divorce”
A patriarchal move that protects the man from consequences unless her proof is incontrovertible. Which will lead to many men falling down stairs in a drunken state and, whoops, breaking their necks.

" If women wear pants they start to act like men instead of women.”
That’s not how it works, but if you need a superstitious reason to hate women, g’head and repeat that one.

variuos commenters #transphobia

Tom Kratman #wingnut #psycho

I know "the new world order" is a boogieman one world government but America turning its back on all our allies and siding with the likes of Russia, North Korea and China would indeed be a new world order.

JRS #fundie

“Show us a link to where people are combining H and O to make water. Don't show burning of hydrogen byproduct, etc.”
Hydrogen byproduct?
Burning hydrogen is oxidizing hydrogen. It produces water vapor, which can be cooled to drip ouf as water. You’re an idiot.

“If random selection evolution were true where H and O found themselves at a party one day... and the rest is history.”
That’s chemistry. It’s not random. It’s not evolution, either. You’re dumber than i thought.

“If this random chance event produced water then surly we can take two simple chemicals and by design do the same thing. Make water.”
It’s still not random, water is chemically composed of hydrogen and oxygen. By definition. We cannot just expect water if we pick any other pair of elements.

“The evolutionists on this forum must be in high school. They run their mouth and strike the poses but never actually deliver the goods.”
You must be homeschooled, and no one taught you what evolution actually is, so you think you’re winning an argument from ignorance.

“Very similar to high school kids. Talk big and strike poses. Then one day they get into the real world and suddenly things look different.”
Nope. You’re way, way, way out of the loop.

“again:

If random selection evolution were true where H and O found themselves at a party one day... and the rest is history.”
Not even close as an analogy.

“If this random chance event produced water then surly we can take two simple chemicals and by design do the same thing. Make water.”
Every patrol i was ever on, the submarine made its own oxygen by taking seawater, purifying the living daylights out of it (filtered, distilled, and demineralized) and applying electricity. We got O and we got twice as much H, which we piped over the side to dissolve in the ocean.
You are very, very confused.

Donald Trump #transphobia #wingnut #god-complex

It doesn't matter if an athlete is actually trans or not. This is a way to attack women who are not built like traditional woman. If a biological woman has a condition that makes them more masculine they will be accused of actually being a man. And the accusation will always be believed. If you don't align to the conservative image of a feminine woman your sex/gender will be questioned.

It is sick.

Tom Kratman #wingnut #psycho

“I confess that, after 80 years of mooching, scolding, nagging, and preening themselves in threadbare cloaks of moral superiority, the idea of Europe becoming our official enemy sends chills up my spine. It is a joyful sensation.”
Right, right. We’re kicking experts out of the military, alienating federal workers, abandoning veterans, and telling contractors that make weapons to make major cuts. PERFECT time to create another enemy.

“Oh, and Canada, in that case, just as if you had tried to join the Warsaw Pact under Trudeau the elder, something I suspect crossed his mind regularly, if you tried to join Europe or adhere to a NATO which has become an enemy of the United States,”
Isn’t that the fucking PURPOSE of NATO? Stand together against enemies?

“we would mobilize, invade, and crush you in very short order.”
Isn’t this the exact same threat Putin makes to countries on his border? DON’T join NATO or i will attack?

“No, NATO, which is to say the UK and France, will not risk nuclear annihilation to save you. No, none of them could send over enough in the way of conventional forces to help very much if, indeed, they could get anything over in the face of our overwhelming superiority in the air and at sea.”
I don’t know if there are enough stupid motherfuckers in the military to just accept that people who don’t bow to Russia (or Russia’s Orange Puppet) are enemies.
Some, sure. but enough?

"Resistance is futile. Prepare to be assimilated.”
Which will signal to EVERYONE that they need to band together to resist us or face us one at a time.

Donald Trump #transphobia #wingnut #god-complex

“Less than 15 minutes in, he noted that he had signed an executive order declaring that the federal government will only recognize two unchangeable sexes, male and female, and another order banning trans women from participating in women’s sports.”
So, wait. The first bit insists that trans women don’t exist and the government won’t see them. The second bit says they DO exist, and this order controls their participation.
If the dumb son of a bitch was consistent, or if the same person had written both EOs, one would say ‘birth assigned sex uber alles’ and one would ban MEN from women’s sports.

It was never about trans women per se but instead about narrowly defining who is an “acceptable” woman. There have been dozens of reports about cis girls who are “too” big, tall, too black, or just happen to beat someone’s princess.

Lone Wolf #fundie

various commenters #transphobia

@Conscience #219354

Tbh I think at this point the most outspoken TERFs are fine with women’s rights being taken back 100 years as long as the policies hurt trans people worse.

I also think that these outspoken TERFs are fine with punishing and taking away the rights of cis women who aren’t TERFs and don’t agree with their bullshit.

Grant Williams #fundie

"In the mythic Pokémon world, these exotic creatures evolve differently from how life forms supposedly evolved on Earth.”
Yes.
The creator of the game loves insects. He’s fascinated by their metamorphosis. Pokemon advance through stages of metamophosis, not evolution, but when the show was translated to English, they feared that the noun, verb, and adjectives would be too difficult for their target audience to use.

“In science fiction terms the Pokémon game seems plausible,”
A dragon the size of my garage can fit into a ball a bit bigger than a softball? That’s plausible in your eyes?

“so evolution may have found another ‘credibility niche’ through the workings of children’s games.”
Except it’s not evolution, it doesn’t teach evolution, and anyone telling the teacher that Australopithecus needed a stone to become Neanderthal is going to be upgraded pretty quickly.

"While not teaching evolution at a rational level,”
Or at all.

“ it does tend to condition children into accepting as ‘normal’ the idea of massive biological change.”
And during the metamorphosis unit, they will recognize the game’s ‘evolution’ for what it was.

"It’s a bit like the slippery ‘bait-and-switch’ definitions that evolutionists used for the word ‘evolution’.”
No, creationists INSIST on using their least favorite connotations for the concept as the definitions of evolution and get snotty when they’re corrected.

“In the real world, of course, such transformations are not observed. To change one type of creature into a radically different type requires a way to generate totally new genetic information.”
You did use the word ‘mutation’ up above. Guess what?

“Evolutionists have still not found any mechanism whereby evolution could pass this unassailable hurdle.”
Mutations. Replications. If the gene sequence is ABCD, and an error in replication makes it AABCD, we have new genetic information. You just like to pretend it’s not.

" Is evolution observable, testable and repeatable?”
You need to look up the actual definition of the scientific method.

Stacey #fundie

<@KeithInc.> #219369

FSTDT News: SlurMania is back, now it can b posted to FSTDT without a mod in the world caring…

(Something about the quote: It was always a lie, Stacey!)

“It don't hurt anything to believe in Jesus Christ and it ends up being a lie.”
Yeah, Pascal’s wager only assumes one god that either exists or doesn’t exist. A false dichotomy.

What if you get to the afterlife and are welcomed by Allah?
Or Odin?
What if Satan is the only real god out there, and the Bible was a joke. And you fell for it?

Donald Trump #transphobia #wingnut #god-complex

Taive #fundie

“Atheists, do you know how to use logic?”
I do logic puzzles for fun, so i think so. Betcha you don’t.
But go ahead. Show us what you got.

“You are looking for evidence of god.”
ASKING for it. Stopped looking. Y’all can do your own homework.

“Here it is. Everything.This world, the stars, the beginning of time, humans,animals, bugs, sun etc.”
And how is that logical evidence of gods, or a particular god?

“Do you think all this had its beginnings in some cosmical speckles of dust?”
Seems to be what the evidence shows. How do you dismiss the evidence?

“That's dumb.”
Just not in any way you can demonstrate, apparently.

dgnymn #fundie

"Fair Trade Palm Fronds?" YOU'VE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!”
Ah, cool. I can rape babies now.
My whole entire fucking life, the Christains have been telling me that atheists don’t have, cannot have any real morals. Not without God to guide them, without the Bible guiding them. Heard it as a believer, heard it a LOT as an atheist.
But THIS guy, who i must assume is a Christain, probably a Catholic, doesn’t think being ‘fair’ is a moral issue for celebrating the life of the Messiah.
PRETTY SURE the Jesus in the The Books would not have wanted to cheat the poor, especially in His name. BUT THIS IDIOT thinks it’s not a CONCERN that they cheat people who are near palms, or employ a middleman who cheats workers, OR that they do such damage to the palm trees in gathering fronds that those trees won’t produce next year….
Really goes to show the actual value of writing down Christ’s words and thinking about them.

"Is that what they used when Christ entered Jerusalem?”
Yes, you fucking idiot. There wouldn’t have been enough Christains at that time to seriously deplete the palm trees in the area, no need for importing or a palm frond industry.
How far would you have to walk, today, to find a palm tree? If you’re not in Florida, Texas or California, how long would it take?

"C'mon, Church!! You're getting so politically correct, is causing SICKNESS!!!!”
You’re sick?
You’re nauseated by the thought of acting fairly to workers? To the Earth?
Good. Choke on it, die bubbling.
And PC is to avoid accidental INSULT, that’s all.
THIS is to prevent actually causing REAL HARM to your fellow man. Christ was kinda big on that idea, IIRC.

“Are you really believers, or just CHRINO's (Christians in name only)!!??!!”
Isn’t that for Jesus to decide? NOt you?
I mean, unless the Church actually hired you as a heresologist…

PrimalRedemption #crackpot #conspiracy #racist #wingnut #fundie

Asmobaby #racist #sexist #transphobia

“White middle class men in drag really seem to get upset when a black succesful man goes on a stage and makes people laugh”
I’ll take Flip Wilson for a $1000, Alex.

I suspect it may be the content, not the race of the comedian.

Lirastra #fundie

“and sedimentary strata, are a later result of this perceived divine event.”
How in the name of the son of fuck can sedimentary strata be a later result of the flood? Either the flood did it, and left those layers when it receded, or they didn’t happen.
But floods do not sort sediment. THey churn.
Everything all jumpled together. And if they did sort, then the heaviest stuff would be on the bottom. The geologic column has heavy layers resting on lighter materials. That requires two events, not one.

And look at deposits like the White Cliffs of Dover? All those remains of plankton over millions of years? If that was one event they’d have to have al lbeen alive at the same time. The ocean would have been the consistency of wet concrete where all those plankton swam.

“While many people hold the belief there was a worldwide flood, flood geology itself has been unequivocally rejected by mainstream geologists, many of whom consider it a form of pseudoscience."
Because it doesn’t fucking work as ‘science.’

“Though at one time even prominent workers in Biblical archaeology were willing to argue support for flood geology, this view is no longer widely held.”
Funny how people that actually examine evidence stop believing in fairy tales, huh?

“As to why they disagree now I don't know,”
Google any time you like for ‘why there was no bible flood’ or ’what’s wrong with flood geology’ or ‘is noah’s flood bullshit?’

“ but there is all sorts of evidence that shows geological wear caused only by water across globe and it's pretty consistent.”
Yes. But would mud laid down by the flood have dried up hard enough to show that sort of erosion a few months later when the flood went…somewhere?

"It also happens to be the layer in which most fossils are found.”
That’s got to be total bullshit. Citation?
Like, are MOST trilobite fossils found in ‘that layer?’ Are most T-Rex fossils found there? Saber-toothy Tigers?

Saith Technologies #crackpot #mammon #god-complex

soldier for salvation #fundie

“Evolutionists, if your theory is true, then why haven't bugs evolved the ability to avoid bug zappers?”
Because IF THE THEORY IS TRUE, then they haven’t been in use for long enough to affect the gene pools of the various species subject to being zapped.

“If everything evolves and gets bigger, stronger, smarter, and better like you say it does,
But we don’t say that it does.
Species isolated to an island get smaller.
We pat ourselves on the back for being tool users, but there’s really no evidence that intelligence is a survival strategy that’s better than pumping out more kids.

“I would think that by now the bugs would have evolved.”
They have. But what would that look like?
Say that one species does evolve away from attraction to bug zappers. Say, house flies. No other bugs would benefit from that trait. Just house flies. So you’d still be seeing other flies, beetles, moths, gamma-radiated lightning bugs going zap all the time. Would you even notice the lack of house flies?

“Also, why don't germs evolve?”
They do.

“According to your theory, they should be evolving to resist the drugs me make.”
They do. That’s why you need the year’s flu shot every year.

SPeaking of bug zappers: When I was stationed at the SWF, one guy on my shift bought an outdoor bug zapper. Read the instructions. I always encourage reading the instructions.

Most people get a bug zapper, they put it where they get bothered by bugs, so it’s right by the porch. Thing is, it works by attracting bugs. So you’re still bothered by the bugs, but you get a certain amount of schadenfreude hearing them get toasted in the crisper.

The manual, though, suggests mounting the bug zapper 70 feet away from where you want to enjoy bug-free outdoorsyness.

S didn’t have a 70 foot lawn. So, for Christmas, he gifted each of his neighbors with a bug zapper. They were thrilled and mounted the things immediately. On their back porches. About 65-70 feet away from S’s back porch.

So he’s enjoying a summer that was significantly less buggy than normal for Southern Georgia, and when his neighbors asked, ‘Why don’t you have one?’ he said his wife didn’t like the smell. I have no idea if there is a smell associated with bugs being vaporized, or if it’s the power of suggestion, but both families assured him the smell was not that bad.