“Porn will never be free speech.”
Pretty sure Larry Flynt already established that it is.
“Porn is imagery. Porn is media. Porn consists of videos and photos.
Those are visuals. Not speech or text.”
I write porn. Text is my main form of output.
So MY porn is free speech, and it makes no sense at all if someone were to use my written porn and adapted it to a video and THAT not be covered by free speech.
“And even the actual text/speech in porn is riddled with slurs (bitch, cunt, whore, slut, etc) and degrading language. You know, speech that shouldn't be normalized or accepted.”
Free speech is not limited to the words you are not offended by. That’s the entire POINT.
“If we've come to shun racial slurs, the same should be done for misogynistic slurs.”
fine Shun them. Don’t try to outlaw it, though.
I mean, you have the free speech right to use racial slurs. And everyone else has thefree speech right to react accordingly.
“But anyways - pathetic porn apologists who scream that porn is a "right" and a "freedom" and part of "free speech" are deluded and partaking in a massive cop-out. It's a right for whom?”
Everyone subject to the Constitution.
“It's a freedom for whom? It's free speech... For WHOM?”
SLept a lot in your Government class, didn’t you?
“For men. Because it certainly isn't any of those things for women.”
It’s a freedom for everyone. You don’t have to partake, that’s why it’s a freedom, not a requirement. And I also enjoy porn created by women on certain sites.
“I can just hear the pro "sex work" libfems in the back of my mind going "nuh-uh! It's freedom for women too, since we want the autonomy to show off and make bank off our bodies!"”
Your dislike of an argument doesn’t invalidate it, snowflake.
“...yea, ok. All I hear is "I'm brainwashed and I believe freedom for women means being able to choose to exploit, commodify, and objectify myself within an inherently misogynistic industry and have that be widely accepted and even applauded".”
your prejudice doesn’t invalidate the actual argument, though.
“Convenient, isn't it, that freedom for women to these people means being as vulnerable, exposed, obliging, and subjugated as possible - yet freedom for men means, you know... Actual freedom. Actual power. None of this bullshit.”
And you’re free to spout your misandry.
“If freeing slaves, for example, wasn't an attack on free speech or anyone's "rights",”
No, no, it was.
People used to have a right to own slaves. We took that away.
“neither is freeing women from porn and the sex industry. Both things directly treat humans in ways that no human should be treated.”
I dunno. Someone wants to create a site for ‘enslave me.com’ i can imagine quite a few black people making $ off racists by appealing to their sense of supremacy and entitlement.
“Yeah, redneck is making me clean his toilet, but he’s paying twice minimum wage, so I’ll earn 55 cents every time i call him ‘Master.’ Fucking idiot.”
“Ridding the world of the sex industry and how it harms and enslaves women, whether by actual force or via mass brainwashing and manipulation, is not and will never be a bad thing.”
If it’s coerced, yes. or underage, yes. That would be illegal. The porn itself, if acted out by consenting adults, that’s free speech.
“Porn is not freedom of speech or expression,”
Sure, sure.
“nor is it a "right". Porn is the exploitation, commodification, and dehumanization of real human beings”
So is pretty much ever wage earning position in someone’s view.
“ - namely women - and nobody reserves the "right" to partake in such a thing or derive pleasure from it.”
Do you feel better, now?
Now that you’ve delivered your almost fact-free sermon?