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people need to take personal responsibility
if a mother has an abortion...she should be penalized...some how....tubes tied?
people need to take personal responsibility
if a mother has an abortion...she should be penalized...some how....tubes tied?
your whole Flying spaghetti monster is as believable as the boogie man or other stupid creatures. this religon seems to be just based on a childs creative mind.
This makes me think all younger generations now are full with idiots like you.
No to believe that a spaghetti controls my life is crazy and stupid.
And I have a strong feeling that your joking and don't tell me your not cause I read it twice it seems all most too stupid please go read the bible or jump off the nearest cliff cause no one has use for you that's why your making stupid religons
Well, marriages are a lot more likely to survive if both people have a realistic idea of marriage (as in, what marriage is actually like and not just some dream come true fairy tale marriage you see in the movies), you don't live together before marriage, and you sort out issues that come up in marriage before you actually get married.
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We went through a book called "1001 Questions to Ask Before You Get Married" and we talked about EVERYTHING and discussed EVERYTHING. If that doesn't give you a realistic idea of marriage, I don't know what does.
Whenever children are born with birth defects, its never to punish the child, but the sins of the parents. Youve never seen good people have hermaphrodites do you? (and not good meaning nice, good meaning clean of sin)
God would never hurt children. After all, it was Jesus who said, "Anyone who dares harm one of these little ones will have to answer to me."
[Do you concede that you misinterpreted Exodus 21:22-23?]
No, because I've prayed about this verse and I know what God is actually meaning in it, and it's the same thing I've been saying all along.
[So I guess several dozen centuries worth of Jews just got <a href="http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=exodus%2021:22-23&version=31">Exodus 21:22-23</a> wrong, but JoJo on myspace got it right the first time?]
And FYI, I happen to OWN a Bible and I happen to OWN a guide that tells where to find pretty much anything in the Bible. It's called "Where to Find It in the Bible." Imagine that.
[After posting old testament verses "proving" that the bible was against abortion, and being told that Judaism always puts the life and health of the mother above the fetus, which is not considered a person.]
Well, I'm not a Jew so this does not apply to me. That's like saying that Buddhists support abortion. I'm not a Buddhist, so why should I live by their rules and support abortion? I am a Christian and I follow what the Bible says, and the Bible clearly says that killing an unborn child is wrong.
[Evolution explains the different breeds of dogs]
That is not a good example at all. That is simply adaptation and not evolution. Evolution among life forms is when the DNA is changed not when outward appearance is changed.
[On why it's not murder to destroy embryos during in-vitro fertilization.]
There is a huge difference between an uncontrollable and inevitable death of some embryos in order to create a baby that the parents want, and aborting an "embryo" (fetus, baby, etc) just because the parents don't feel like taking care of him/her. The first is done out of the parents' love and need for a child, the second out of selfishness and self-centeredness because Heaven forbid that child interfere with their lives! *sarcasm*
You are simply telling kids that the current 'beliefs' of a bunch of scientist are fact. Just because you spent 10 years in college does not make your personal belief any more right that any one else.
The Bible states that the earth will "wear out as a garment" would. And that the heavens (outer space) will fold up like a garment (collapse on itself) just like many astronomers say it will do after it expands to it's limit. How did they know that years ago? I have been taught Evolution in school and I have read the entire Bible (without any religion telling me too, I have no religion to espouse here), so I have the benefit of knowing both. Do you?
I'll ask this, why is America so afraid of China going to the moon? Yah, they're a little behind the times, but think about it. I don't think we went to the moon, and America is afraid that if China goes there, they will find no remnants of the moon landing- No flag, no rover, nothing there. I think it was all a big ploy to jump ahead of the Russians in the race. When you can't pull something off, make people think you can!
SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE? I think that problem is going to go on for years.
So? Just because I've never had sex doesn't mean I don't know anything about it. I've learned a LOT from my friends and family. And reading Brad Henning's book. Oh, and uh, the Bible.
3) When sex becomes a factor in a relationship, it starts to dominate the relationship. Meaning that if you continue on that path, your emotional intimacy and closeness will suffer at the hands of physical intimacy.
4) On the contrary--a vow will change sex from solely lust to solely love because after marriage, you are delighting in pleasing the OTHER person. Premarital sex, on the other hand, seeks to only please yourself.
[You cannot possibly know that, as you are an unmarried virgin, and you cannot make such sweeping statements about other people, anyway.]
And I'm sorry Sierra, but you know what? Those are my beliefs and I'm standing by them.
[On spousal rape]
If you're married I don't think it would be rape...because technically you already consented to sleeping with him when you married him. But that's a different situation. If you are married and don't want to have sex with the person then why'd you marry them?
[If a woman in South Dakota is willing to risk undergoing an invasive, unsafe procedure in an illegal clinic, don't you think she might have a damn good reason?]
Breaking the law is never done with a "good reason." That's like saying that why else do murderers kill someone, if they don't have a good reason, would they put themselves at such risk for jailtime/capital punishment/etc.? If abortion were banned and made against the law, if the parents choose abortion, it was their CHOICE to break the law. Nobody's forcing them to break the law. There are many other options besides abortion.
[Implying its women's fault for being abused]
I don't blame anyone for being abused. Of course that's not your fault. But what I'm trying to say is that if you walk out into a street, you're at the risk of being hit by a car. It's not your fault you got hit by the car but I mean....you were in the middle of the street.
God made man and woman and brought them together "face to face." Oral sex is of homosexual origin that replaces the normal "face to face" relationship God intended in a marriage.
[The little girl suffered irreparable brain damage after she stopped breathing in her crib.]
people who are mute, or deaf, or blind, or have phsical or metal problems, are extra special because God let them live and even they can praise his name! The little girl i take care of praises the Lord all the time because she knows that God saved her and that she is where she is today because of Him.
omg, black people are the most predjudice people there are. All of them need to get over all the bs, and the only reason white people get pissed at the remarks is because they always use the excuse" white people are racist" no we arent, you are because you cant get over slavery, you blame us for not having jobs, like we are sopposed to find you one, and black women hate white girls because we dont have 85 kids and thier men want us. i am not at all predjudice im just sick of hearing we are.
everyone in Iraq was in danger from a madman. that is why we went. Iraq has been unstable for what, 2 weeks? and it won't last long... we did what was best- we saved lives and provided freedom.
but of course; you only care about your life and your freedom; right Sierra?
this civil war isn't because we came; it was because of struggles between the different ethnic/religious groups.
lets see our solution: use troops to maintain peace; break up large gatherings; foster cooperation.
saddams solution: murder everyone who isn't a Shiite. Just look at what he did to the Kurds.
They are much better off having this Civil War with us there than with Saddam there.
[The Iraq war helps people? Like the Vietnam war did?]
Well then, maybe the US just shouldn't help ANYONE anymore. Oh wait, liberals would have a problem with that too! Then they'd whine "What about all those people? You should send aid!!" (The tsunami comes to mind.) You can't make a liberal happy. It just doesn't work.
[On the Iraq war, after saying that the choice is between the deaths of multitudes of innocents and rule by extremist muslims, and the war in Iraq.]
And, yes, a multitude more of innocents may have died if that maniac who gassed the Kurds (and still had stockpiles of sarin gas, a.k.a., weapons of mass destruction, when we came in) stayed in control of that country. Everyone knew he was unstable and extremely dangerous, not only to those in his own country but possibly to the rest of the world. By the way, how is it that you know civil war is going to break out? And if it does, do you think this doesn't happen in every country when it gains independence? It happened here. I know this won't have any effect on you no matter what I say, though. A product of brainwashing is indeed sad to witness.
one nite i waz sitting on my bed starring into space, then i see a figure appear in front of me. It waz him standin before me. Weird thing is he looked exactly like me, except his eyes where pure black., It waz pretty freaky becuz he was outta my body talkin to me. He went away for a while, i would still feel him sometimes, but for some reason hes been really buggin me. Any ideas y? And in a dream he told me to becarful on 6/6/06. I kinda understand why he would tell me to be careful its the devils day, but what scares me is what he will do. When he overcomes me, i do shit i dont mean to. Any help. Also the other day my friend asked me if i believe in god three times. Something inside me made me deny god. Sound familier.
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Every time i try goin back to god though, he hurts me bad.the other day i prayed for my friend, and i wear a cross around my neck. When i waz praying i had to take off my cross becuz it started to burn my throat. Then when i took it off i had to fight him from comming out.
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He tries to cut me. He tries to hurt my loved ones and he tries to kill me from the inside. Im only 14 yet i dont understand why i go through this. I used to be a satanist, but i put my faith back in god and everything went to shit. One time when he was out fully, i waz in a fight, and he tried to kill the kid i waz fighting. He started to choke the kid and i had to have 5 guys pull me off.
[After saying that abortions would be unnecessary if everyone waited till marriage, and being told that financial and health problems don't suddenly disappear once you get married.]
Oh see you're talking about a marriage without Christ. Not my idea of marriage. 2 Christians, man and wife, working together to serve God, living Godly lives and if God wills it procreating. And there is no reason to have an abortion ever. Rape, incest, life death situation, doesn't matter it's wrong always.
Not everyone gets abortions just for kicks. But a lot of people do.
I believe that some people can't believe in God because they can't. This is part of my worldview that God created everything in what is called theistic evolution. IOTW's God created all of the animals, and in what we call animals are beings that look like us but don't have the necessary component of a soul. This theory of mine explains who Cain's wife is. In short, there are people ( who I wouldn't call human) that are just as smart as us, because they have to be. It's a survival instinct. They just can't believe in God, because a it doesn't occur to them to, like dogs or cats...
as for man creating God, I can almost see where you are coming from, but there is a small glitch... since when does man develop an idea that isn't self-serving???
You know in Genesis when God created the world, and after that He created Adam in His image. And God let Adam to rest for a while to make Eve with 1 of Adams ribs.
I am guessing that God allowed Adam to sleep for 8 hours and God probably used 2-4 hours to create Eve, probably another 2-4 hours for Adam to heal. And if there was time left probably God let Adam to rest just for the heck of it.
What do you think about this?
I'm saying that according the knowledge of the authors of the early bible story the story is correct but as more knowledge is gained now we see that the facts aren't as factual as they were. But the thing is everything concerning salvation is 100% true.
abortion is pure murder!! is human cruelty! y kill an innocent soul??? even if it was alrite in de bible, i still wouldnt be up for it. if u r pregnant and dont want it, y dont u have de baby n den put him/her up for adoption?? or have a ceacarian and put de baby in an incubator if u fink u cant handle him/her 4 nine months?? after all de 6 (not sure) commandment say DO NOT COMMIT MURDER!!!
[On <a href="http://channels.netscape.com/whatsnew/default.jsp?story=20060222-1317">this</a> study out of UCLA with more evidence that homosexuality is genetic.]
oh wow. a small study is going to change my beliefs. i don't think so.
pray tell, what exactly are you trying to prove? because bibically, homosexuality is a sin just as other sins, and since we are inherently born into this world as sinful people, this really should just be more proof that God does in fact exist.
['Everything happens for a reason? Tell that to the raped girl. Sorry baby, seems like you just had it comin'.']
like i said, and said, and said, not everytime you have sex a baby is made, so thus, proving, it is more then just randomnous that a baby is born..
hence, everything happens for a reason.
and as for the statistic that most abortions are done by mothers who already have kids, and dont want anymore.. (note, not initiated by me, not found, or researched by me, im just restating it)
GET YOUR FUCKING TUBES TIED.. if you dont want kids, dont allow the process to have any potential..
you selfish, inconciderate, pieces of shit
[You know, not everyone is healthy or wealthy enough to be able to undergo such invasive, elective surgery.]
why do you refer to me as a healthy, priveleged, white boy?... im healthy because i choose to be
if a girl leads a guy on, or is drunk at a party and flirts a lil, or leaves the impression she wants more then to just make out.. she gets.. "sexed up"
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but how can you blame a guy for lusting a girl who is wearing clothes that essentuate the female figure.. you cant..
and those guys who rape girls, were pushed over, or took themselves over the limit..
i guarantee if girls wore dresses like they used to in the 1800's.. the amount of rape cases would be cut in half..
We can't see God because He is so holy and rightous and we are all so wicked and evil we would die at his site. When Isaiah saw God in a vision he said "I am undone" and he was ONE of the most holy man that lived. The rightness of God is far too great for us to see. We would melt like abirthday candle setting on the sun.
i doubt that girls getting raped is just some random coincidence.. infact i dont beleive in coincidences.. hence.. EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON..
and no.. abortions dont happen for a reason.. abortions happen to escape the consequences of poor actions..
I've never heard anyone who wanted their child refer to them as a "fetus." It's not like people go around saying "Oh when is your fetus due?" or "Is your fetus a boy or a girl?"
I think people made up that word so they could justify their actions of killing a human. They are removing humanity from the word "baby" by changing it to "fetus", so they think they aren't really killing a "baby" when, in reality, they are.
[On South Dakota's pending ban on abortion.]
listen- if this becomes a nationwide law, think of how many rapists will be deterred by thte thought that the women that they rape will HAVE to give birth, and the father can be easily identified by the babe's DNA??? this will prevent a lot of rapes. part of the reason why rapes r so common is the fact that abortions are legal, so nobody would know if they raped someone. now they dont have that option.
[On why he doesn't have a job.]
I'm not real motivated to EARN right now. My screwed up country imposes regulations that say I have to participate in PUBLIC INSURANCE (ie. social security). Jesus specifically commands that we not 'save up for tomorrow' (which is the whole premise of this program) and the bible overall tells me not to put my security in society AND to avoid the appearance of evil.
Well, as a Christian, I beleive that everything in the Bible is true. And in the Bible, it has a verse (i don't know exactly which one. my friend said he'd look it up for me, but I've got to ask him again) that says that God made man for woman and woman for man, not man for man, woman for woman, or woman for animal.
One being France, where gay marriage is allowed (to the best of my knowledge) yet they have inforced a law that prohibits religious symbols/ clothing/ outward expression of faith in public places - basically they are removing freedom of religion and religious expression, which is one of our HUMAN RIGHTS.........therefore we assume that France is breaking the law by doing this
Being full of doubt without ever having a truth would mean you're in need of defecation!! Doubt is great, but when you doubt too much then you really are full of it. I doubt, and have truth..doubted my God. But returned to the full truth.
They[Soldiers in Iraq] knew what they were getting into when they joined. They joined because they are brave and noble and are willing to fight for their country. They signed up for it.
Babies don't know what they are getting into when their parents conceive them and decide to kill them. They have no choice, they are dependent on the decision of the parents. They didn't sign up for it.
[Do you think Iraqi civilians had a choice?]
Leave it to a non-Christian to care more about the killing of innocent children rather than supporting our country.
[If I were God for a day...]
first I would take my dyslexia away, big one there.... then I would make it so every class I'm in, I get an A+ every time... then I would have famliy guy be on 24/7 on its on channel for all people and be free too..... I would make my self the CO of wal-mart, I've puched carts for them long enough.... get my self a Nissan 350Z Touring, Subaru B9 Tribeca, Infiniti G35, and one more scion XB, and make it so gas would never run out, and be $0.25 a gallon, no FREE GAS, thats better, lol :P, .. but in the end I would just want to see things the way, God does... so I know why things happn the why they do....
no sexual immorality is anything that binds a sexual nature masturbation is a sexual thing to do
For some reason I don't think reading adult input on OOBEs is the smartest way to go about learning about OOBEs. Teens, You know what to do!
A LIFETIME OF HOMOSEXUALITY WILL DESTROY YOUR SOUL. A LIE WILL DO THE SAME, FOR YOU ARE DOING THE ENEMIES WORK AND ALSO ARE BECOMING AND DOING EVIL.
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INFINITE MEANS EVERLASTING =CONSTANTLE THERE. IT DOES NOT MEAN THE SAME LEVEL OF EVIL OR WRONGDOING. SOMETHINGS ARE WRONGER THAN OTHERS BUT ANY FORM OF WRONG DOING IS SIN AND SIN IS A CONSTANT STAIN THAT CAN ONLY BE ERASED BY APPEASING GOD, WHO IS A GOD OF JUSTICE, HOW DO YOU APPEASE GOD? YOU RIGHT THE WRONG OR YOU MUST SUFFER THE SAME AMOUNT OF PAIN OR EVIL YOU CAUSED. BUT SINCE IN THE EYES OF AN ALL PURE AND PERFECT AND GOOD BEING ALL WRONG DOING IS SO COMPLETELY TERRIBLE AND DISCUSTING, THAT IT CAN ONLY BE REPAID WITH BLOOD BEING SPILT. HE KNEW WE COULDNT HANDLE THAT KIND OF PUNISHMENT, SO HE SENT THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD, HIS SON CHRIST JESUS TO BEAR THE PUNISHMENT OF EVERY SIN THAT HAD BEEN AND WOULD BE COMMITTED. HOWEVER BECAUSE OF THE FREE WILL FACTOR OUR SINS ARE OUR OWNS UNLESS WE TELL GOD WE WANT HIM TO TAKE THEM AWAY THEN HE GIVES THE GRACE OF SALVATION AND THE GIFT OF FAITH THAT WE MAY NOT FALL AND HE LOVES US AND FOREVER KEEPS US BECAUSE WE CHOSE TO LOVE HIM.
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PURGATORY IS FOR BELIEVERS ONLY, BELIEVERS WHO HAVE SINNED BUT BELIEVE KEY IS YOU MUST BELIEVE. my friend i think i must repeat this. SIN IS NOT MEASURED BY LENGTH OR DURATION OF BESMIRCHMENT. ALL SIN STAYS ON YOUR SOUL UNLESS CLEANSED. SIN IS MEASURED BY HOW MUCH IT BESMIRCHES YOUR SOUL NOT HOW LONG.
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IF they are not doing this THEY ARE NOT GOOD PEOPLE AND ARE NOT RIGHTEOUS!!! Now all of us do not really do this. Hence the prophecy: There is not one that is righteous, no not one. there is not one who understands.