Yeah, it was NEVER about that. You just sucked down every drop of zionist propaganda force-fed to you by the public school system. Prior to Hitler, JEW bankers had basically destroyed Germany through USURY (a term you should become familiar with). Berlin was rife with prostitution, pornography, pedophilia etc. It was a festering wound, A disgusting filthpot thanks to the JEWS. Sounds a lot like the USA now. Degeneracy, communism, force-fed miscegenation, misandry, all brought to you by the JEWS once again. Thye NEVER stop. They are the destroyers of everything GOOD. There was always a reason for them being booted out of 108 countries. It wasn’t because they were humanitarians I can assure you that. Either way no document has ever been uncovered about any holocaust whatsoever. Stephen SpeilBERG would have you believe other wise
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Hitler was right, Holocaust wasn’t real, we should do the Holocaust here, and Stephen Speilberg is part of the NWO, apparently.
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words.”
- Jean Paul Sartre
The reasons for economic disaster within the Weimar Republic are complex but a major one is war reparation repayments that were punitive. Banks didn't set those payments; nations of the Entente did during the "negotiations" - Germany wasn't invited to these - that led to the Treaty of Versailles.
If you want to see somebody who dealt with bankers, look to Hitler. He borrowed incredible amounts of money from other nations and from private lenders to create his seeming economic miracle without troubling himself much about how he was going to repay the debt or even the interest on it. Nazi Germany printed more money than Weimar did.
In broad strokes, it's like this: Hitler took Germany into the Second World War to avoid default. Had he not done so, a number of things could have happened differently. The Americans carried a significant portion of the debt. He could have negotiated with them. Instead, he brought nothing but rot and ruination to Germany. Fuck your ideas about what constitutes degeneracy. Starting a war to avoid monetary scandal is so much worse than mere usury.
Did the average German know that at the time? No. Those people who joined the SS didn't know either. But now that *you* know, you may no longer use ignorance as an excuse.
As for the Final Solution, it occurred. I don't particularly care what you think on this matter and I'm not going to provide you yet more evidence when there is already a bunch of it at your fingertips. There is forensic evidence, eyewitness testimony from both perpetrators and survivors, and a paper trail left by the Nazis.
<@Why? > #122590
I always wonder what they do take seriously, outside of flat strength and/or willpower. (Doesn’t say much for them loving their own sapience, though.)
Indeed, is that why “reality-based community” was first coined as an insult? That the utterer thought himself part of the force-based community, even if Force is still part of Reality?
@The_Dybbuk #122591
Small correction here because I think it is necessary to understand the Nazi (and Hitler’s) mindset: He didn’t start the war because he wanted to avoid the monetary scandal. His goal, from the moment he achieved total control of Germany was war and conquest. There was nothing else on his mind. He restructured Germany as best he could into a war-machine, took on loans to pay for it all. The illusion of an economic uptick was not the goal, it was just a way to placate the masses until the war could finally start. He never even thought about repaying these debts, since the Nazis believed that at the point were they would have to pay up they would already have all the “Lebensraum” and therefore all the resources in the east they needed to continue the war. The nazis were THAT idiotically confident in their own abilities and fanatic when it came to their ideology. Quite a few historians believe that if the war had ended without a Nazi defeat, or never started to begin with, Nazi Germany would have gone bankrupt in a matter of years, if not months.
GEFICKEN! Bad enough what happened back then, pity they punished the German republican revolutionaries for what the Kaiser did and that a certain corporal didn't succumb on the Western Front to of all things POISON GAS! You don't get to recycle the same old lies about it, you too Brutus977, you putrid chazir!
@The_Dybbuk #122591
To be fair to the Entente, these reparations were for the war damage they suffered.
And, indeed, the Reich’s budget was bad enough it ensured Hjalmar Schacht ended up acquitted: his lawyer pointed he had protested against the irresponsible financial polities pursied by Hitler. And it was very easy to do, since the Allies had to search for him in a concentration camp , with himself complaining he was sitting with Kaltembrunner, his jailer.
@JeanP #122703
What’s more, people forget what Germany would’ve done if it won the war.
Case in point, the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk, which Germany shoved on the fragmented Russian Empire in 1917. It ceded everything west of Saint Petersburg to the German Empire, which planned to divide it up under the nobility.
The Entente’s terms were comparatively light, considering the human and financial toll the war exacted on them. In fact, failure to hand out spoils of war is part of the reason why Mussolini took over in Italy.
There was always a reason for them being booted out of 108 countries.
Oh yes. Mostly, rulers seeing getting rid of their debtors as an easy way to get rid of their debts, which they took for their vanity projects, courts and courtesans and/or petty wars, rather than for investment into improving their domain. Also, bigotry,
Also, aren’t the Jews supposed to be in control of everything? Why would they let this happen time and time again?
Finally, just once, I would like to see how they arrive at that number. I suspect a large portion of them would be a petty fiefdoms and city states, and/or several instances where it is (different incarnations of) the same country, both of which may make this a bit less impressive than it may sound at first.
@ChrisBP747 #122638
You're right. I got a bit careless in my explanation of Hitler's motives.
I don't like to think about the fact war was his goal. There's evidence going back to the 1920s he was obsessed with some of the ideas that were so prominent during the Nazi campaign of terror.
@JeanP #122703
The following statement may be controversial, but I believe it: Germany did not start World War I and should not have been made a scapegoat when it came time to pay for all the damage.
World War II is an entirely different story.
@The_Dybbuk #122835
It’s actually a huge and largely pointless blame game that has been going around for decades now. I recently read an article by six historians who all put the majority of blame for WW1 on different countries or allied states. The main thing I took away from this was that basically every major power in Europe at the time had some form of social darwinist ideologies floating around which they had extended to the states: At some point they all thought that THEY needed to become the dominant colonial power and duke it out over this nonsense. Problem was that they still thought about war as if it was still the 18th century, but technology had advanced considerably by this point. Ultimately they all could have worked against the conflict escalating, but none wanted to do so, fanatical as they had become in that regard. But Germany was indeed the last country who could have stopped WW1 from happening, by not supporting Austria in its fervor. It obviously did not. So who started WW1? Yes, probably Germany plus Austria. But at fault were basically all the european powers at the time. It’s complicated.
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