I don't care about logic or science, the Bible says the moon and sun move.

Katy-Anne

Someone in the pro-life movement put together a great chart showing how many great men of God were born to women who died in, or shortly after, childbirth.

If anyone has a link to this information, please post it here.

Why would it be considered right to kill the baby so the mother might live? Why wouldn't it be right to allow the baby to be born and do all that is possible to ensure they both live?

We should also remember that for a born again Christian, death is nothing to fear. What a joy for a woman to give birth to the next Spurgeon on the same day she joins Christ in heaven!

Furthermore, most abortions done in the United States, are done illegally to begin with. So not only are those that partake in abortions murderers, but we can add law-breaker to the list as well.

What evidence is there in history to prove that the KJV is the final revelation to man. It was the book that God used during the reformation.......... Now this is not my opinion, it is a historical fact.

(For those not up to speed with the history of the reformation in Europe: the reformation is generally considered to have kicked off in 1517; the KJV was first produced in 1611.)

Should we accept history? If it is harmony and does not contradict the Bible and the evidence is reliable of course we do. If we have to make a choice between history or the Bible (when I say Bible I mean the KJV) of course we choose the Bible.

"Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind...."
Although Evolutionists will tell you with a straight face that an elephant mated with a cockroach and a bald eagle was born, there has never been a case of different animals mating with each other, despite the fact of millions upon millions of different species. Cats mate with cats, dogs with dogs,
pidgeons with pidgeons etc. They all mate with their own kind.
A demonstrable observable fact!

"Abstain from all appearence of evil" I think that most people (saved or unsaved) would say a Christian should not have multiple piercings and tattoos. Especially a KJV bible believer! I know that the crowd I use to run with would see a woman with tattoos and piercings as a whore and a man as someone of a rebellious nature.

Do I have anything at all that can substantiate my belief. Yes I have historical documents that compile a Bible. It's something. Evolutionsists have got nothing.

Brother, you can't use an excuse like that. It's like saying "show me where in the Bible it says I shouldn't beat my wife". It doesn't! But their are principles there that tell me I shouldn't. It says to "Love your wife". A loving man will not beat his wife. However, someone, who beat their wife, might defend themselves by saying "It's not in the Bible".

And to further illustrate, another thing which people often defend, because it is not in the Bible, is "loving" themselves. I won't mention what I actually mean, and love has nothing to do with it. Anyway, the Bible doesn't say "Don't do that!" directly, but it tells us to flee youthful lusts etc. I am sure most young men (and young women too, and probably older men and women) struggle with this, but there are many who DEFEND this position, claiming the Bible is silent on it, so it must be okay.

Now Chris, I am NOT comparing beating up wives and the other thing, to Rock Music (although a link would probably appear if you took a huge survey of wifebeaters and the music they liked).

No one said it was a perfect language. He said it was God's langugage. I believe it is too.

I believe Adam spoke english, God spoke english, and everyone's language was confused at the Tower of Bable. Only when God's complete revelation comes to man do we come back to his holy language again.

Do I have any proof for this? Nope. Does it really matter? Nope.

[In response to the statement that people who want to believe that the sun orbits the earth ar willfully ignorant]

Hmm I wouldn't call wanting to believe the Bible as "willingly ignorant".

Fun is always around the bend as long as some people who hate Christians have a Hitler mentality.

i want to go on the record and state that i believe in a form of evolution.....

Men are De Evolving into primative lifeforms .....Men are becoming more APE like as time goes on. Eventually they will finish as pond scum soup.

Could it be that all the Apes on the earth used to be men at one time? just a theory......

No, I never said that. You do know that the theory of gravity is based on the assumption of heliocentrism, right? Now if we were to assume geocentricity were correct(assuming the earth is stable and that the universe revolves the earth everyday) and create the theory of gravity from there, it would fit.

What i'm saying is, gravity works everywhere in the universe, except for the case of the earth. It cannot be shown scientificly that the earth actually adheres to it.

You only assume it to be true, because it works for the other planets...

Gravity could very well work within the geocentric assumption.

Girls with short hair are ugly and need to read the Bible.

So what do you think that the New Earth will be like? Views on the celestial city of Jerusalem?

Personally, I have a few ideas about it. Most have scriptural backing. I believe that we will be able to communicate with animals. I believe that we will be able to instantly teleport ourselves anywhere (possibly anywhere in the universe), I believe that Jerusalem will be an orbiting city (a pyramid, or cube.. a sphere fits the dimensions of 1500 miles X 1500 miles, but you can't really build a wall around a sphere. A pyramid seems to be more likely, with tiered levels for our golden mansions, and the temple of God on top. Imagine that, with waterfalls running down the side as the lake flows from the temple of God. It would be amazing. The foundations of the pyramid would be all those different stone mentioned in Revelation. THe 12 stones, and then the 12 gates of pearls. We will either get to the city through teleporting ourselves, or by flying (or even ascending on Clouds as Jesus did.. the Bible says we will be like him).

The word of God has been in heaven forever. The KJV has always been there. The so called Hebrew words like Alleluia are English words. The English did not borrow them from the Hebrew but rather the Hebrew borrowed them from the English. If the KJV has always been there and is the original word of God then there is no other conclusion. The same can be said for any so called Greek words that were borrowed from the Greek or transliterated. It is a matter of what bias you approach this particular subject.

Okay, I am leaning towards beleiving that in Heaven, God, the angels and the saints will all speak Elizabethan English.

Just to address an issue above, I believe that the words of Jesus in other languages are what he said, but they are always translated into God's heavenly language afterwards.

The Hebrew tongue from my understanding is read backwards ie right to left. Now anything backwards is always a negative thing, and not a positive. For those who think Hebrew is the language of heaven lets search the scriptures and see what they say.

[Talking about whether piercings are okay]

OK, I assume this person has left home? Because if the person hasn't, then I believe that person should be under the authority of their parents, just like a wife to her husband.

Well Jordan and I have been discussing the issue on what age to let any daughters we have be allowed to cut their hair if they want to or pierce their ears (which isn't wrong but I want them to make their own decision I hate it when parents pierce baby girls ears) or other such things. We thought age sixteen might be a good age to start letting them decided some things (and begin wearing makeup about then if they want to) but the whole not wearing pants thing would be when they leave home if they are gonna wear pants we can't stop them but while our daughters (if God blesses us with any) are in our house they will wear skirts.

Wow I didn't realize that it was wrong for a woman to translate, pastor. Thanks for pointing that out. I have helped once or twice (not really publicly) to partially translate english to german for the german speaking visitors. I won't do that again.

[In a post where our dear katy-anne is complaining about how one version of the KJV changes a word like 'saviour' to 'savior']

I've never been too concerned about the "message" or the "meaning." It's the words that I'm concerned about.

Also did you know that sometimes when the tattoo "artist" is doing the tattoo, he is worshipping false gods and also sometimes drinks the blood gushing out of the tattoo. Drinking blood is wrong...just as it was wrong for me when I used to cut myself and then lick the blood, it is as wrong to get a tattoo. They are on the same level.

I have two cousins autistic and two dead from vaccinations. It is just a social agenda and if you do the research, it may not have got rid of all the diseases that it claims it has. There is proof that some diseases may have just been re-named. Also God wants us to look after our bodies and that means not injecting poison and aborted baby tissue (yes they put that in there) into our bodies. Where in the Bible does it say that it's a really good idea to stick poison and weak diseases in our bodies as a method to fight illness?