rape is always wrong, but if a beautiful woman walks out near naked on a town square at night in Kairo, it is to be expected. The rapists are wrong, the victim is innocent, but reality is what it is.
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To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them.
To use logic against logic, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed and then
And above all, to apply the same process to the process itself -- that was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed.
Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink.
Could have said anything, said this instead.
There must be thousands of comments on this site picking shit like this apart over the, oh no, decade plus that I’ve been here.
"but if a beautiful woman walks out near naked on a town square at night in Kairo, it is to be expected.”
Women in burqas get raped. It’s not her beauty or her skin showing that CAUSES rapes.
This is the sort of mentality that makes Trump think that a defense against accusations of rape is, ’She’s not my type.’ or ‘I don’t find her attractive.’
I’m also wondering what dude means by ‘naked’. Does this person mean actually nudity or are they speaking hyperbole? Some people say “she’s walking around naked!!” when really she’s got a short skirt and a top that shows her midriff. I’ve heard muslim men refer to women as naked when they walk around with their fucking burqa.
Also, most times when women have walked around in public naked, it’s because something is seriously wrong. She’s having a psychotic break or she’s escaping something awful (like a rape!) And even if she’s not, she’s still in the most vulnerable situation possible. Men have the ability to control themselves. I’m so sick of all the excuses and double standards.
Rape is always wrong, asshole. It’s ALWAYS. WRONG. ASSHOLE!
murder is always wrong, but if a weak person walks out without a bulletproof vest on a town square at night in Kairo, it is to be expected. The murderers are wrong, the victim is innocent, but reality is what it is.
@Yutolia #156714
Since he mentions "Kairo" I suspect English is not his first language. Also, for men used to seeing women as walking cloth bags, "near naked" could mean "wearing a calf-length dress" or even "exposing hair."
I don’t want to give something this messed up the benefit of the doubt, but playing along with this person’s argument just for a second.
Just because something is expectable doesn’t make it any less fucked up. The fact that it’s fucked up takes precedence over the other things and should be motivation to make it stop.
It doesn’t have to be that way, though. There are places in the world where the worst that could realistically happen is that a cop might show up and say “can you, like, not? It’s not actually illegal but some people might be bothered” and that’s if someone’s fully naked and not “nearly naked”, however you interpret that.
Involuntary celibacy is always wrong, but if an incredibly stupid man walks around talking near a woman, it is to be expected. The stupid is wrong, the woman is innocent, and reality is what it is.
Confused?
So were we! You can find all of this, and more, on Fundies Say the Darndest Things!
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