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WestWins #fundie #racist

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(commenting on story “Minneapolis Burning: Violence, Riots Break out in City Following the Killing of George Floyd by Police”):

Chuck Anziulewicz:
While I'm sure most of the people who voted for Trump in 2016 do not think of themselves as racist (and I'm trying to be generous about that), the fact remains that ALL of the white supremacist groups, white nationalists, militia groups, "Proud Boys" and such were 100% solidly behind Trump. THOSE were the "deplorables" Hillary spoke of. And with Trump's election, they feel validated and empowered. There's no getting around this. And when things happen like what happened to George Floyd, I'm tempted to think that those same deplorables have infiltrated police forces all over America in an effort to foment a race war. This is just ONE of the reasons I'm voting against Donald Trump.

WestWins:
Odd comment. What does Racism have to do with this story? And what is a White Supremacist exactly? Is that different from a White Nationalist?
Confusing.
Are the Chinese in China Supremacists?

Piltdown911:
Divide, divide, divide. Race, politics, social standing, etc.

WestWins:
True.......but only in White Nations. Or I should say "formerly" White Nations. Asia for the Asians, Africa for the Africans..."Western Civilization" open to everyone!
Watch.......someone will call me "racist" for pointing out the fact that Western Civilization was predominatly white. Europeans are on the chopping block of humanity.

Mick Williams #fundie

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An interesting possibility.

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For your consideration: a president who could only have been elected by divine intervention. The enemies of freedom, unhinged by their catastrophic defeat have gone right over the edge. Witness the collapse of the communist media. Even their well-indoctrinated followers are sick of hearing the same broken record. We see the implosion of the leftist political party, unable to win elections on their anti-American platform, their message of intolerance and division falling on finally-opened ears. A certain billionaire financier has no more hate groups to undertake his paid riots. Demoralized by failure. they stay home, indulging in drug-fueled rants on social media that no one hears. But another voice echoes through the centuries. warning His followers not to become complacent when sanity seems to be coming back to the nation.

Tonight's armchair admiral advice from.... The Twilight Zone.

Doug Bristow #fundie

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Samson:
This fool will still not humble himself, typical of the left.

Delu:
What about the fool in the Whitehouse? Has he humbled himself yet?

Doug Bristow:
Daily by putting up with those like you that have a psychotic hatred of him and by working as hard as he can to do what is right by this country and it's citizens; doing it all for free in spite of all the lying and fake garbage that has been piled on him even before he was sworn into office.

Jim Hanes:
No one has a psychotic hatred of Christians merely because we put a TEMPORARY social distancing rule in place to ride out a global pandemic. You look like a well-fed man. Do you also believe people have a psychotic hatred of restaurants since you can't go to all-you-can-eat
buffets for a while?

ISA41:10 #fundie

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(commenting on the story “NY Gov. Cuomo: ‘Worship Services’ Are ‘Canceled,’ According to Guidance Document”):

The LYING Liberal Media and the Demonrats are wanting to keep America shut down for several reasons.

1. The vote by mail fraud they are pushing.

2. They seen how most pastors ran and hide, so they see their chance to remove religious freedom. Then Demonrats pushed freedom to worship. Now freedom to video stream. And all the brave pastors said thank you lord governor.

Pastors are disobeying the Word of God by not assembling together and NO video streaming is NOT assembling together. Pastors have becomes servants to men and not God Hebrews 10:25

And don't try and tell me Romans 13:1-7 applies because it does NOT! When man tells us to disobey the Word of God we are NOT to obey man, PERIOD!!!

Jesus also told us to 'GO" and Preach and spread the Word of God (Matt 28) not to sit at home remain under our beds, thumbs in mouths, until the likes of Cuomo, Fauci, Birks, Whitmer and all the other Demonrat liars would tell us--order us--to slowly (masks & gloves on, of course) & carefully emerge blinking into our "new normal" existence.

Christians today are playing Church and not being the church...........It is quite obvious!!!!

Mister Peabody #fundie

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(commenting on story “NY Gov. Cuomo: ‘Worship Services’ Are ‘Canceled,’ According to Guidance Document”):

DEX:
Did this New York clown have to study the United States Constitution at any point in his privileged upbringing? Perhaps he stopped reading it when he got to the 1st Amendment. Didn't know that right to celebrate one's faith was abridged by a contagion.

Travis Kingston:
Boy, keeping people from dying isn’t really high on your list of priorities, is it?

Mister Peabody:
Did you text this while standing in a food line?

Travis Kingston:
What gives you the impression I'm the one fighting against social distancing measures? No I am not in a food line.

Mister Peabody:
Well good, then we are both on the same page. I find it curious that people in NY are crowded into buses, subways, grocery stores and other stores but Christians are not capable of practicing responsible social distancing on their own in small groups in own their homes. That is insulting to our faith and intelligence and smacks of religious bigotry in that we are responsible for your health. If you are so concerned about your own health that you have to resort to religious bigotry then I would suggest that you hole up in your bedroom with your PlayStation, have someone buy your food for you and then have mommy slide it under the door.

Travis Kingston:
It's a really silly excuse for some to say Christians' rights are being squashed because they temporarily can't get together for worship. Look how many churches went virtual. Not the same thing but you adapt in times of crisis.

Mister Peabody:
So as a non Christian you get to tell us how we should worship God if we do it practicing social distancing better than being cramped into buses or trains? You smack of bigotry. It drools off your keyboard.

Travis Kingston:
I'm just trying to ensure you can stay alive to do it in the future, pal. Since you clearly need to be protected from yourself. I believe the phrase you're looking for is "thank you". No one's taking away your right to practice your religion.

Mister Peabody:
Well thank you. Your heart is in the right place. Mine is too because I’m more concerned for your eternal life than worrying about mine here. You may not believe it but it is the truth. As for not taking away our practice to worship God, a federal judge just declared that Kansas cannot restrict persons so congregating. So yes, it is happening and you will likely see this go to SCOTUS. But again, thank you for your heartfelt concern. Although you likely don’t believe in the power of prayer, I will pray (and ask others here as well) that God reveal His love for you in an undeniable way. If you ever have a specific prayer request, I would be glad to add that to the list.

Travis Kingston:
The whole reason they don't want them CONGREGATING is so they don't need to worry about the EFFECTS of a GLOBAL PANDEMIC, but this is a lesson you clearly need to learn the hard way.

Mister Peabody:
Praying for ya.

beeohdee #fundie

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Responding to story “DOJ Counters Greenville’s Shutdown of Drive-In Church Services, Vows to ‘Ensure Religious Freedom Remains Protected’”:

beeohdee:
This insanity needs to stop NOW. The virus will take it's toll. We are not GOD and cannot stop it. Over time it will then be succumb to herd immunity just the same as every other virus/flu has been overcome in any population since the fall of man. Prayer certainly will help. But to restrict peaceful gatherings, whether they be religious or not, is insanity. Our economic foundation is crumbling and OUR HEALTH WELL-BEING IS DEPENDENT ON A STRONG ECONOMIC FOUNDATION, as is every other facet of life! The purpose of these draconian regulations is NOT to restrict the spread of this virus, but to destroy our economy in a final effort to attain the ends that these people have been attempting to accomplish for at least the last 12 years... "to transform America." These enforcement efforts are an attempt to further that agenda. We need to oppose these unlawful regulations, peacefully; force mass arrests of peaceful citizens. We are fulfilling the truth stated in Romans 1:28, "and he gave them over to a reprobate mind to those things that are not proper."

Travis Kingston:
You can’t stop the virus but you can take measures to control how much destruction and death it causes. And it seems to me you oppose that.

beeohdee:
Where is it written that we can control destruction and death? You are absolutely correct, I am in <b>total</b> opposition to this madness that has enveloped our entire culture and the world.
As I said above, the virus WILL take its toll. What we control is whether we cause more destruction or less while it does what it is going to do, regardless of our believing that we can sit on God's throne and determine the course of events.
This is nothing more than a political opportunity for the 'transformers' of our culture to mold our politics after their own image. Romans 1:28 still applies, and we deserve it. But God is merciful to them that turn to him in time of need.

Roger Marks #fundie

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Travis Kingston:
Your religion is yours, but you don’t get to inflict it on others. If you serve the public, and you bake cakes for a living, you bake the cake regardless of who is asking for it. You seem to support the “I’m in a diet, so you can’t have a piece of cake” approach to religion.

Roger Marks:
And (Freedom from Religion Foundation)'s non religion is theirs but they should not inflict it on others like they do all the time because they hate the fact that anyone might hear about God and become a follower of his.
The fact that they have to impose their non religion on everyone shows two things. One, they have very little faith in their non religion and two they are hypocrites because they want to be able to practice their non religion but they don't want others to practice their religion.
And if it is wrong to have religion in schools, it is wrong to have non religion in schools as the Constitution does not differentiate between beliefs.

Madfoot713 #conspiracy

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There is no such thing as white nationalism. It is a made-up word by Zionists to justify why THEY'RE allowed to have a homeland, while Europeans have to be forced to live in "multiculturalism" with the "Jihadists" you pretend to have a problem with.

Nick Fuentes and Michelle Malkin are Americans and if you think that Americans deserve to be treated equivalently to these spooky "Jihadists", then you are anti-American. Simple as.

Roger Marks #fundie

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(commenting on story “Fla. Tax Office Removes Christian Sign Following Complaint From Freedom From Religion Foundation”):

Roger Marks:
Christians get of your backsides and complain that removing the sign is giving a preference of non religion over religion. Equality demands that this is done. If FFRF want their non religion promoted and they do, just tell them to ask that a sign promoting non religion be put somewhere in the office.
You will only stop these idiots when you fight for your rights. Just lying down and accepting everything is the worst thing they can do.

Travis Kingston:
Nice try. There is no such thing as non-religion. The absence of something doesn’t make it an entity.
Do you complain about non-racism when people speak out about racism?

Roger Marks:
Nice try. As a teacher of English and Religion I can assure you that non religion is practiced by those who believe that the only valid religion is the one you don't have.
But again, that is probably above your pay grade as it requires a brain and the ability to analyse and think rather than relying on trite remarks.

Chet #fundie

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I've seen enough this past week in stores to get a pretty good idea what it's going to be like for the unsaved during the Tribulation, where, regardless of their possible fat bank account, one will not be able to buy bread without the mark of the beast. And I can easily envision lost souls giving themselves over to the Devil while in this me, me, me, I, I, I, survival mode. Then, they're eternally lost...

Brian Matthews #fundie

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Brian Matthews:

You just made my day, telling me that I'm featured on one of your Christian bashing web sites. That truly makes me happy. I hope you'll post this over there, too.
"You make it sound like a prison sentence where any sign of openmindedness is punished."
And how do I do that? Is it because I don't tell you how wonderful you are, what with your Drag Queen Story Hours, and your Baskin Robbins approach to human sexuality?
Because I HATE the filth and perversion, the sick and twisted garbage, that you and your ilk are pushing on society, these days?
You like the fake Christians who go along with you for a little pat on the head. The one's who have sold their souls for just a little feigned acceptance from the cool kids.
I don't care one wit what you think of me. Christ told His followers that they would be hated, like He was. He told us to rejoice and be glad when people said bad things about us for His sake, for our reward in Heaven will be great because of it.
Yes, I am angry, but NOT full of self pity. I PITY YOU!
Nevertheless, I start out on low. I try to give your friends every opportunity to back up what they say, and they NEVER EVER do. They just start telling me what a meany I am. They can't even answer the simplest questions. That was the case with Gwen Mistelbacher, despite your misrepresentation of that exchange. I was the one who repeatedly tried to get her to answer my questions regarding her statements, and she continually refused, and kept attacking me.
I suppose Heaven will be like prison to you if you hate goodness, decency, and purity. On the other hand, if Heaven is anything like what you people are trying to make American society like, then I don't even want to go. You've turned this place into Hell.
Do you think it's a good thing that my young grand daughters have to share the restroom with grown men? If you do, you are truly twisted, and I have every reason to be angry about that. That's a prison sentence!
Don't talk to me about how I make Christianity look to you. You make your worldview look like wicked madness to me, which it is.
And YES, you are lost. Why would you think you're the exception? Do you think you're better than everyone else in the world?
You don't even need Christians, or the Bible to see it, just look around. If you can't see that there is something seriously wrong with the whole human race, you're out of touch with reality. The very fact that we are arguing is itself an indicator that something is wrong.
Look at all the violence, the chaos, the rage, the sexual abuse, the hate, filth, greed, addictions, wars, etc.
The whole human race is broken, and in need of redemption. You're not special. That's what Christ came for.
The whole human race has been condemned long before Christ was even born. You aren't going to be condemned because you were just a good little boy just going along, minding your own business, until God, wanting to make you jump through some arbitrary hoop demanded, for no apparent reason, for you to believe in Christ or perish. That's not at all how it works. That's just another Satanic lie.
That would be like a drowning man getting mad at me for setting arbitrary conditions, just because I threw him a life preserver, and told him to grab it. He wasn't drowning because he didn't want the life preserver, he was ALREADY drowning! The life preserver was for his salvation.
Christ is that life preserver. Humanity was already drowning before he came along. You're not going to get condemned for rejecting Him, you are already condemned. You are just going to pass up salvation by rejecting Him. BUT, since you're that one perfect human being in the world, I guess you've got nothing to worry about.

Mario Vercotti:
FSTDT isn't a Christian bashing site. It takes the absolute worst elements of extreme religion, racism and sexism and puts it on display. What you are about is not Christianity. What you are about is fundamentalism.
Brian, I don't HAVE drag queen story hours. I don't approve of exposing children of that age to drag queens until they reach an age of understanding ssexuality, period. You're taking the worst elements of the things that both you and projecting them on all atheists, or at least all people you hate. As for a "Baskin Robbins approach to human sexuality", no I don't. I don't say anything any more or less radical than what tested, accepted science tells us. There are homosexuals in this world. Let them be homosexuals and stop trying to "fix" them according to your religion. Just because you adopt a faith doesn't mean you get to inflict it on those who choose not to follow it.
I don't have any "filth" or "sick and twisted garbage". If you think someone's sick and twisted garbage because they're born homosexual, YOU are the sick one - science will tell you so too - and you need to deal with your own demons.
"You like the fake Christians who go along with you for a little pat on the head."
And who are THOSE, Brian? What's a fake Christian, and HOW DARE YOU call them so just because you can't agree with them? And how do you ever come to understand them if you BLOCK them as you do everyone you seem to encounter here? How do you even function in the real world with a rotten attitude like that?
Yes, you are full of self-pity. Poor you, who can't understand why the rest of the world doesn't want to heap scorn and hatred on people not exactly like you are.
"I try to give your friends every opportunity to back up what they say, and they NEVER EVER do."
I've seen what you do. You frame a question in such a way that you want a VERY specific answer, which people either don't have the patience to figure out what you want, or is impossible to answer, and they don't do it, and you block them. What the hell is the matter with you? Gwen didn't refuse, her last request as to what your question was was entirely respectful. You mocked her for not knowing and blocked her, which takes real cowardice.
NO I don't think it's good that your granddaughters have to share a restroom with grown men. You never asked me. You assumed the worst, Brian. That's what you do. The thing is, normal homosexuals wouldn't disagree with you either but you find them so revolting in concept you don't even give them the time of day.
The whole human race isn't "broken". You just see things in it you don't like, and are demanding they be fixed YOUR way, with intolerance and hatred and anger. I look at the things in this world that I don't like and ask questions, forge relationships, and work positively to solve them. I don't say "well you don't belong to the same faith I do so get lost sinner". Does that sound like anyone YOU know, Brian?
And for the love of God stop calling people and situations "Satanic" just because they aren't exactly what you want them to be. There are a million other reasons to explore before you need to start invoking a Satan most people don't even believe in.
If you can't live peacefully with people who believe differently than you do, you deserve all the name calling you have incurred.
Now you're going to block me, and I will be vindicated.

Susan #racist

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If blacks had any dignity, intelligence, or fortitude, they would have designed and built their own civilizations. In the last hundred years, they've been handed, by whites, trillions of dollars and endless opportunity. They could have built their own societies with our resources. They didn't because they're dumb, indolent, and mainly just dumb!!

Brian Matthews #fundie

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Brian Matthews:
Jesus Christ is LORD. Do you deny that? Yes or no.

Mario Vercotti:
I deny it.

Brian Matthews:
And you will perish. There's nothing I can do about that.

Mario Vercotti:
I’ll take advice about that kind of thing from doctors, not zealots, thanks.

Brian Matthews:
I wasn't giving advice.

Mario Vercotti:
You were threatening me with the rules of your religion which I don’t follow. I do not respect that.

Brian Matthews:
I wasn't threatening you. Why would I do that? I don't even know you.

Is the CDC threatening you by telling you to wash your hands often or you might get sick?
I also don't have a religion.
I was a lost sinner who was saved by God's grace through His Son Jesus Christ, while you have indicated your choice to remain a lost sinner. It's your choice, so why are you mad at me?

Roger Marks #fundie #dunning-kruger

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(commenting on story “Freedom From Religion Foundation Lodges Complaint Against Teacher for ‘Undermining Theory of Evolution’”):

I can't believe that intelligent human beings can believe the fairy stories raised by FFRF.

Lets list them....

1. The teacher undermined the teaching of evolution. FACT. There is nothing to undermine as it lacks substance.

2. A concerned parent. So one person's knowledge supersedes the knowledge of over 1,000 scientists.

3. He explained that none have been “able to find when something becomes something else” and that evolution is contrary to genetics, such as if a dog “underwent several mutations and became a cat.” So the teacher has to teach lies to satisfy one parent.

4. “So, what that means is that you have to play the evolutionary game because the people writing this are married to that idea, despite the new proofs and the science coming out,” he is quoted as saying about the exam. So the school demands that teachers teach lies.

5. Evolution, like gravity, is a scientific fact. … No controversy exists in the scientific community regarding the fact of evolution, Another lie that the school has swallowed hook line and sinker.

6. “Teaching creationism or any of its offshoots, such as intelligent design, in a public school is unlawful because creationism is not based on fact.” And evolution is based on fantasy but never mind if students do not learn the facts.

7. “Mr. Lucason must be directed to refrain from promoting religion or attacking evolution to his students,” it opined. “If he cannot do this, he cannot be a teacher in a public school.” But the school is bowing to the dictates of a religion of no religion.

8. The parent who complained to FFRF — who has remained anonymous — similarly claimed to the Utica Observer-Dispatch,“A biology teacher telling students that evolution can cause only minor changes within a species and cannot cause one species to gradually become a different species over the course of thousands of years is the equivalent of a math teacher telling students that it’s possible to add two plus three, but it’s impossible to multiply 987 by 6,789.” Evolution is pure supposition with no factual evidence. Maths is factual with plenty of evidence.

9. “We have consulted with our legal counsel to confirm a clear understanding of the constitutional requirements referred to in your letter regarding instruction on evolution,” he wrote. There is nothing in the Constitution about teaching evolution.

Seems that the school is run by a group of blockheads that do not have single spine amongst them, letting one parent dictate curriculum.

Roger Marks #fundie

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(commenting on story “Apostate Texas ‘Church’ Announces Homosexuals Allowed to Lead, Pastors Can Officiate Same-Sex Ceremonies”):

This shows you how clever the homosexual mafia is. Way back they said that the church was the biggest barrier to them gaining acceptance in society so of course they target the church. And they have done it with a very successful fifth column.

From within they have convinced some churches to disobey the word of God and replace it with the word of Satan. In this case I see very clearly Satan in the board meetings saying "Has God said..." and the board happily saying "No he didn't" although it is clear as day that he did.

I used to run a support group for homosexuals who did not want to be. On Sunday evening we filled up a whole row in the church and the members knew who they were and treated them with love and affection but not one of them had any position of authority or ministry in the church until they had been set free from the drag that homosexuality is.

Many went on to freedom in Christ and got married and had children.

What the church is doing is giving authority to any sinner to join the church and be involved in the running of it whilst they are still sinning. if they accept homosexuals then they have to accept fornicators and thieves.

In another church I discovered that one of the Home Group leaders was beating his wife. I didn't say that is OK, you can do that and lead a group. I reported the fact to the leadership and they removed him from leadership straight away.

Roger Marks #fundie

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Roger Marks:
As you have asked me a stupid question I will give you a stupid answer. A homosexual is a celibate heterosexual and gay means being miserable.

Jim Boss:
A homosexual is a person attracted to the same gender.
Gay is a synonym for homosexual. It also means happy but not exclusively.

Roger Marks:
You asked a stupid question so I gave a stupid answer. If you don't want that to happen don't ask stupid questions.
I don't know how long you have lived on this earth but the word gay has always meant happy until the homosexuals hijacked it and made a lie out of it.
If you want to know the truth with homosexuals all you have to do is take the opposite position and that is the truth. I have spoken to enough homosexuals, read about enough homosexuals. watched enough homosexuals, and studied enough of the pathology of homosexuals to know one thing they are not and that is gay.

Roger marks #fundie

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It is called deception. Deception. Satan who is behind homosexuality is the father of lies and could not tell you the truth if he tried. So anything you hear from him about homosexuality is a lie and as we all know if you tell a lie long enough it becomes the truth.

A classic example is the idea that homosexuals are gay. A complete and utter lie.

I have a got a book written by a researcher that spent TWO YEARS following 200 homosexuals on Fire Island. In the book he said that one of the things that was a stand out was that they were definitely not gay. He said that they were some of the saddest people that he had ever met.

Which is surprising as Fire island is a place where you can be homosexual to your heart's content.

tovlogos #fundie

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(commenting on story “Pete Buttigieg Drops Out of Presidential Race”):

“That same month, Buttigieg asserted during a fundraising event that those who take issue with his homosexuality rather have a problem with his Maker."
That statement is a technique used by the LGBTQ ilk more often. That God made them that way...
The problem there is it contradicts the Bible obviously (which is always the case when anyone sins and rationalizes it), since God made man to desire woman and woman to desire man -- that's the way it's been by the vast majority throughout human history. But because some people cannot break away from continuous sin, of course, it's God's fault. To say 'God made me do it...' is a very common excuse for 'practicing sin', in contrast to stumbling temporarily. cf.1 John 3:8-9.One thing reminiscent of Sodom is the boldness with which today's LGBTQ persuasion approaches heaven. In Genesis 18, God appeared to Abraham on His way to reckon with Sodom. When we arrive at Genesis 19 at which point the Lord went His way and two angels were left to continue to Sodom after God's conversation with Abraham had ended -- there Lot was sitting at the gates of Sodom and immediately arose to meet them, bowing his face toward the ground. Needless to say, the angels were not afraid of refusing Lot's hospitality and intended to spend the night in the open square but Lot insisted and they followed him into his home...
Before the men of Sodom turned in for the night they quickly surrounded Lot's house and demanded that Lot release the new Men so they could 'know' them.Due to their spiritual blindness, they had lost all discernment which is a passport to doom.
In the present article, the very same spiritual blindness possesses the ex-candidate. So, yes, he needs prayer and a turnaround if he is to have any hope which in Sodom's case it was too late.

Roger Marks #fundie

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(commenting on story “’Facing a Decade in San Quentin’: Daleiden Pleads Not Guilty to Criminal Charges for Undercover Planned Parenthood Videos”):

This only goes to show that pp people do not have an ounce of compassion in their bodies. They have completely desensitised themselves to the slaughter of babies by paid assassins and as a result justify the follow on from their murderous actions.

To them, the baby and they know it is a baby is a bit of flesh to be used for the benefit of adults and raising cash. Nothing more than a link in the chain of barbarous intent.

America is a wonderful country and Americans are wonderful people but it is time the government outlawed everything to do with abortion, made it illegal in any shape or form and gave some semblance of normality to the Constitution's right to life and liberty for all.

As far as abortion is concerned, their is no justification in any shape or form to kill a baby in the womb. None whatsoever. Roe v Wade was the biggest mistake that any government could make because it said that the baby only deserves to live if we say so.

michael louwe #fundie #crackpot

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Samson:
The entire love and marriage bond was to procreate and raise a family, hard to do with two people of the same sex.

Canis Vulpes:
So people who through no fault of their own are infertile, should not marry?

michael louwe:
Infertility or barrenness is usually caused by incest, eg Abraham and Sarai were barren because he married his half-sister. Incest is a sin but Abraham was ignorant about it since the Law was only given during the time of Moses, ie a few hundred years later.

Lady Checkmate #fundie

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Mick Williams:
It's also what compels trolls to Christian sites, while we completely ignore theirs. Deep down, they're threatened by what they know is true.

Lady Checkmate:
Well said. I shared with another brother that the irony is off the chart. An obsessed troll, who stalks a Christian site and Bible-believing Christians, spends countless hours (for years) creating sock armies and trolling and harassing (issuing death threats, death wishes, rape fantasies and creating kill-lists) has the audacity to call the people they stalk and harass, the same people who ignore them and their site...insane. Who calls the peace-keepers who ignore the loud, lying hateful, barking trolls, insane. LOL! The irony is hilarious. How does a proven crazed, mentally ill, cyberstalking troll attempt to take a moral high ground that doesn't exist. And, anyone not calling the crazed stalker, it's socks and it's irrational and illogical claims crazy...is not quite there and only enabling someone who belongs in an asylum-which disqualifies them from being taken seriously.

Interesting tidbit: When a stalker who is banned, whose socks and bots are banned immediately, and who is not welcome on a site and knows they are not welcome on a site, still creates socks to try and force their way onto that site anyway (against the other user's wishes) to circumvent their ban (which shows a violent, arrogant and forceful tendency-they must be used to forcing themselves on people), then pretends they're surprised their socks are still being banned, surprised that nothing they attempt to post using sock accounts is taken seriously, 99.9% of the time not even read, nor allowed in a community, you realize you are dealing with a seriously mentally ill person. Someone who feels seriously entitled, is extremely damaged, probably has long-term and short-term memory issues and should never be trusted. But the funniest thing, is when they pretend you want to post on their site. Then they tag you to a site you'd almost forgotten about (and someone has to tell you you were tagged because you've banned and blocked most of the trolls-again ignoring the hate), but then when you tag the owner to let them know you don't appreciate being tagged and harassed...and the owner pretends that you responding to being tagged and harassed to a site they own, is wrong. LOL! It's like, man, someone on your site tagged us there and you know we are not community members there, so why are you begging us over there. You also know that we ignore your trolls, but your trolls are now tagging us to your hate threads. Responding to you (the tag on your site) is the right thing to do, it is letting you know we don't appreciate the harassing tags on your site. We don't allow those trolls on our site because we don't want our site to look like your site...we don't want them here. In other words, you can keep your trolls, because we don't want them. If we wanted to entertain your trolls, we would do so here, but we don't. We know what they believe and we are not interested in anything they have to say, which is why them and their socks are repeatedly banned. Your trolls reject Jesus Christ, hate Bible-believing Christians and threaten our lives, we have shaken the dust from our feet. Normal, mentally healthy people do not stalk other people because they disagree with them and do not want to talk to them or better yet, listen to or read their foolish, Christophobic, blasphemous rhetoric: Cyberstalkers, Cross-channel Attacks and Targeted Harassment
https://disqus.com/home/discussion/channel-battlegrounddiscuss/cyberstalkers_cross_channel_attacks_and_targeted_harassment/

You're more concise than I am, but yeah :).

Mick Williams:
I never even bother with the spam file, but that really hit a nerve, judging by the first few words of the latest berserker tirade.

Lady Checkmate:
I usually don't read the comment's of socks, which post to the Pending or Spam File, but the death threats, death wishes, rape fantasies, kill-lists, etc., I make sure to save to report. That hateful, evil troll, seems dead-set on harassing and killing Bible-believing Christians and it is not ok. It is not just trolling. It is terroristic death threats. Anyone supporting a troll's terroristic death threats has no credibility. There are some sick and demonic people online. Who has time to create hundreds if not thousands of socks (over years) to fill up the Pending and Delete file...that is NOT normal brother. Amos Moses visited one hate thread started by the troll, and he said he was banned after five minutes, lol. They are only interested in hate and harassment...they hate Truth.

Victor Justice #wingnut #conspiracy #fundie #sexist #racist

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Little Greta’s Crippled country is being ethnically cleansed and she’s none the wiser!

Little Greta desperately needs to read some real news from the so-called far right! Become a loving wife and mother, and flush her childish rage down the toilet!

Little Greta needs to play with dolls, have a tea party with other little girls, live within a traditional, and NORMAL family!

Another victim of western deviance! Little Greta, I pray that you find Jesus Christ!

I’ve truly seen the face of unadulterated hatred today. Little Greta, You are the sister of Satan himself!

Little Miss Greta desperately needs to get Saved!

Holy God Almighty is deeply good, always! Live it and love it sour-pus.

Little Greta is truly a pathetic brat. How Dare this nothing stare down our great and beloved president!

Little Greta obviously has vile parents. I’ll bet that in a few years while other young ladies are preparing to be wives and mothers, she’ll be pushing her smelly dogs inside of a baby carriage!

Little Greta is the saddest person I’ve ever seen, communism destroys!

tovlogos #fundie

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(commenting on story “Va. Democrats Walk Out After Pastor’s Invocation in House of Delegates Urges Protection of Unborn, Biblical Marriage”, excerpt follows:)

Grant warned that God has poured out His wrath on nations for their disobedience before, and “we are not exempt.” He then began to speak to specifics, referencing prominent societal sins such as abortion and homosexuality.


tovlogos:
"Some Democratic members of the Virginia House of Delegates reportedly walked out of the chambers on Tuesday after the pastor who delivered the invocation exhorted lawmakers to protect the unborn and uphold the sanctity of biblical marriage. Two of those who spoke against the prayer were also identified as ministers." Obviously they are not ministers of Jesus the Son of God.
That reminds us of a passage in John 6:66-68 -- "From that time on, many of His disciples turned back and no longer walked with Him. So Jesus asked the Twelve, “Do you want to leave too?” Simon Peter replied, “Lord, to whom would we go? You have the words of eternal life..." Amen Peter, I can't imagine where we would go...

Off Shore:
Two that were identified as ministers.... Let me correct that statement, two that identify as ministers of satan or better yet wolves in sheep's clothing. Nothing about these two show them as disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ.

Lydia Church:
Right. It's amazing to me how many are aligned with hell but still claim to be a 'Christian'. But it's nothing new, in the OT many times folks thought they were doing something in the name of God, but they were against Him and God actually punished them, the Golden Calf Festival with Aaron is a prime example. Today's apostasy in the church, which is falling like dominoes to the agendas of sin, the world, and the devil, are another example. So many will be shocked when Jesus says to them, "Depart from me, for I never knew you!!! You who practice sin!" At best it's the five slumbering virgins who are left outside of heaven's door! But now they are full of arrogance, later they will be crying but there will be no hope left for them. NOW is the time to repent! Repent NOW of abortion and homosexuality, pornography, drug use, fornication, and all the other sins. The Bible says if you are not living a holy life, you will not get to heaven, be not deceived by smooth talking snake oil salesmen 'ministers' promoting the heresy of licentiousness, salvation by grace is NOT a license to sin! We as Christians will stand before the judgment throne of Christ, for what we did AFTER we got saved! Let that sobering fact wake you all up!

Justus Jonas:
If you believe all that, that's well and good, but the issue is that this man said these things not as part of a sermon in his church, but in a government building. In other words a place which should be free from religious haranguing.

Roger Marks #fundie #transphobia #homophobia

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(commenting on story “South Dakota House Advances Bill Prohibiting Hormones, Surgery on Youth Struggling With Gender Confusion”):

Good, good, good. Common sense is prevailing. If children under 18 cannot decide for themselves to accept help for not wanting to be homosexual, then they should not be allowed to decide they are being deceived by a heartless and deceptive Satan who is laughing all the way to the distortion and deprivation bank to screw up as many people's lives as possible.

Of course the ACLU would oppose the law because that is there modus operandi. Oppose anything that tells the truth.

IMHO #fundie

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IMHO:
The American flag and the queer flag stand for the same thing. Empowerment and equality of deviant God haters.

Canis Vulpes:
The American flag stands for the country of The United States of America.
The LGBT flag stands for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgendered people.
So no, not the same thing.

IMHO:
Perhaps you should study on that a little more. The Constitution guarantees the rights of the deviant left and since this is a democracy then they can hold office and push whatever legislation they want. Now we have an openly homo running for president who will be seeking more "rights" for the deviants.
You may say that they should have equal rights too. But they are not making equal rights, they are seeking favor by taking away CHRISTIAN rights. The right to associate is the most basic right of religion and they started taking that away early on with their socialist legislation and taxation to pay for it. Now they want to teach "alternate" sex in schools which is a result of the socialist decision to teach "sex ed" in schools. The examples/proof goes on and on.
Look at the liberal lefts other front runner Sanders. He wants to spend trillions of our dollars on his socialist agenda. And all the while "Freedom of the Press" has given ultimate power to the liberal left media to control peoples thinking, make the issues and set the arguments.
The socalled "Right" is just another side of the same coin.
The flag does stand for the U.S.A. and the constitution which it upholds. Any Christian who flies it is supporting an ungodly government plain and simple. Before long I wouldn't be surprised to see a rainbow flag over the Capitol.

Canis Vulpes:
The only rights Buttigieg would be looking for for LGBT people at this point is to protect them from raging Christofascists who want them dead because their holy book says so. I assume you have a problem with that, keeping people safe from harm from bigots.
It isn't the homosexuals trying to take away Christian rights, it's people who want to uphold the divide between church and state. And if someone taught me in school that hey, homosexuals exist, they are what they are and have existed since the beginning of time and no, they're not interested in your children, and could you maybe please not attack and kill them, I can't see why I or anyone else would take issue with that.
For a smaller portion of the population, it IS normal. Just like being left-handed.

Roger Marks #fundie

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Homosexuals are against hate unless you tell them the truth and the hate comes out. They are against discrimination until you discriminate against what they do then the discrimination comes out. They are against judgment until you judge them and then their judgmental gene gets into gear. They are all for love until you are not gushing all over them and then you see the lack of love surface.

A friend of mine who has investigated the world of homosexuality and written two books on the subject said that homosexuals are the most hateful, unloving and judgmental people he has ever met.

Roger Marks #fundie

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(commenting on story “Presidential Candidate Elizabeth Warren Objects to State Programs Funding Private Schools With ‘Anti-LGBTQ Policies’”):

Her comments, or how the comments are reported are full of double speak.

She said States should concentrate on funding state schools not private ones who are anti homosexual. The fact is the State schools are anti homosexual because they wil not allow a full and frank discussion of the matter. Their refusal to address the obvious keeps unhappy children in the chains of homosexuality.

As for not funding religious schools, the issue is not funding of religious schools, The issue is not funding schools that do not promote lies about homosexuality which tells us they are afraid of the truth and can't handle it.

As far as discrimination against homosexuals on the staff, would an atheist school be allowed to refuse a teaching position to a person who was a christian and refused to teach atheism as a fact. I can't see it not happening.

Some use text books that flout widely accepted facts. What widely accepted facts and by whom. Anyone with intelligence can prove that they are not widely accepted if you are not an atheist, and what are called facts can be anything but facts.

And by the sound of things if someone wants a homosexual kid to get a good education, the place to avoid is a state school as all they do is teach ideology, not the truth.

Lydia Church #fundie

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(Responding to story “Vulgar ‘Abortion Is Normal’ Art Exhibit in NYC to Benefit Planned Parenthood Political Action Committee”):

And this "it's normal" stuff? Sure, if you're hitler, then it's 'normal,' for psychopaths!
And it's not God who they are to 'thank,' it's satan! God opposes this murder and no matter how brazen they feel about it, that unrepentance instead of shame will land them in hell. Then they'll know how it feels.

I can't get over their evil heartedness! Oh sure, all these people, men and women, feel they have the right to f#@& left and right, then they get pregnant, so they feel they have the right to butcher it and murder the resulting human being! And they call this the height of 'enlightened' civilization! What a joke!!!

It is interesting to notice how society has gotten so far away from God and has become truly evil. Back in the 50's, folks would get married and have a family. Most would wait until marriage for sex, at least if they were Christians. The mother would stay home to be a mother to the children and not outsource her job to someone who is not their mother. If a woman got pregnant, the man would marry her. Fast forward to today. 99.99999% of all men expect sex before marriage, and that includes those who attend church. Then if the woman happens to get pregnant and doesn't run straight for an abortion, but approaches the father, he just implies that she should murder the baby because, you know, the option is there. If she still decides to have the baby, many men abandon the woman, look for another, and the cycle continues. The woman may cave and murder her unborn child, or end up a single mom in a rough economy. My solution? Keep it in your pants until the wedding night. It worked best then and it still works best now. The Bible was right after all: Don't fornicate. But who knew?!

Off Shore #fundie

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Canis Vulpes:
Kids are going to have sex.
There it is...the uncomfortable truth. Doesn't matter how you raise them or with what values.
With that on the table, what is the solution to unwanted pregnancies? Abstinence education? Good luck with that.
The obvious answer is giving them access to birth control and teaching them how NOT to get pregnant. And there's nothing stopping you from teaching your abstinence values at the same time, maybe you'll get lucky and have a child who resists teen sex.
How did birth control become the bad guy?

Off Shore:
So tell us all then how for thousands of previous years with no sex education or contraception the pregnancy rates among non married ladies stayed so low that the numbers were almost nonexistent? Yet since the 60's with sex education and contraception the numbers keep going up. You have bought a lie I suggest you do some research on your own and quit regergatating the same old lines that PP keeps repeating.

Officer Ron Howard #racist

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Officer Ron Howard: J*ws created the communism that kiIIed 30 miIIion Christians. Marx, Lenin, Trotsky and Yagoda were all Jewish. So were 60% of the regional NKVD directors in the 30's. And when they took over, the firs thing they did was to make "anti-semitism" illegal.

I've never once in my life met a J*w who acknowledged that J*ws were the driving force of the most murderous ideology in history, let alone felt any kind of remorse over it.

Christians owe these rats nothing.

pbaxter pbaxter: You forgot about the part where they killed Jesus. There's a lot of reasons to dislike them, but I won't hate them. At least not because they're jewish.

Officer Ron Howard: Sure, I don't hate J*ws just for being J*ws, just like I don't hate Muslims just for being Muslims. But they both definitely have consistent patterns of atrocious behavior.

CEOmike #fundie

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There is a cultural change happening in America, we were founded on Christian principles, eventually we embraced the Enlightenment idea of Truth, but are now accepting the Marxist idea that change is the highest virtue, facts are becoming "your facts" - simply watch CNN then watch Fox to see the two thought realities. Pray Trump is re-elected in a landslide or the blunt force of the state will prevail.

Chet #fundie

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Chet:
No document is stopping the butchery, the barbarism, the madness, the extreme evil. "For mine eyes are upon all their ways: they are not hid from my face, neither is their iniquity hid from mine eyes" Jeremiah 16:17, Holy Bible... Judgment is coming to be sure!

Canis Vulpes:
Planned Parenthood is mostly NOT about abortion.

Chet:
Is that so, not according to the facts and those behind the scenes who know better. If we can ever get TV to actually show this horrific procedure like we do Live PD and other programming, this wickedness would be terminated almost overnight, save for the few demon possessed supporters left.

Canis Vulpes:
Well, where are you getting your "facts" from? And why do you think showing the procedure is going to expose something we don't already know is going on? There's no doubt in anyone's mind that abortion is going to be a very ugly thing to witness.

Chet:
Hearing of a procedure is in no wise the same as watching the little ones being ripped apart then reassembled to ensure "we got it all"... Let's work together to get this barbarism exposed on live TV and we see how it all shakes out afterwards. How about it, you in?

Canis Vulpes:
No, because why do that? When I see the jerks with the ugly placards in street protests showing graphic pictures of abortions, it does nothing to win me over to their side. It has the opposite effect. I'm sure a hysterectomy is ugly too. Doesn't mean I want to see one.

Chet:
You are but one person, perhaps with a heart harder to reach than most. There are countless others who would faint and vomit and shake and tremble and cry out dear God Almighty, how could I ever have supported such wickedness... Let's do it and see how it all pans out. Those who'd care not to see such can simply reject watching it. Those perhaps not altogether convinced such is the way to go or who are in substantial denial as to this extreme cruelty will be so challenged to see for themselves. What do abortion supporters have to lose?

Canis Vulpes:
It's got nothing to do with having a "hard heart". It's a sleazy tactic, forcing someone to look at something graphic to make an emotional appeal. And it doesn't work. Throwing it in someone's face to look at without giving them an option is the REAL hard-hearted thing to do.
Your language speaks volumes too, "abortion supporters"? You make it sound like there's an army of people out there lining up to extinguish the unborn. If you've ever met one single woman faced with the decision of whether to give birth, you will know the decision is agonizing. But everyone's circumstances are different. They aren't all "loose high school girls" who have an abortion out of convenience to fit into a prom dress.

Kandy Fire N Ice #fundie

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(responding to story “Calif. Man Charged With First-Degree Murder After Allegedly Forcing Girlfriend to Ingest Abortion Pill at Gunpoint”):

I wonder if any Pro-Choice men and women will come here and defend this woman who did not want to end her pregnancy. Her choice was to continue this pregnancy. But was forced by the father to end her wanted pregnancy. The Pro-Choice men and women always says it should be the woman's choice not the mans choice. So how come these men and women are not coming to her defense?

temporary guest #fundie

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I concede that, yes, most Americans do believe in equality. I will also tell you that most Americans don't give a rip about who is gay and who is not. Also, I'll tell you that LGBTQ activist do not believe in equality as they falsely claim while they destroy Christian businesses and lives.I will also tell you there is a world of difference between a homosexual who lives their life leaving other people and children alone and the LGBTQ activists who would turn America in to Sodom or Gomorrah in the proverbial New York heartbeat if they could ... starting with children (Ask the Boy Scouts Of America). Most Americans are sick and tired of what LGBTQ activism is doing to this country. Yes, I know there are gay people who are not involved in all that crap, but in case you missed it, I'm not talking about those folks. I also know what a pride filled, sanctimonious bully is, and every LGBTQ activist in the country is exactly that, and MOST Americans are sick and tired of the bullying crap dedicated to undermining the true strength of any stable culture, the family of one man, one woman and kids who know which one is which ... we are bone tired of LGBTQ activists telling us we have to embrace and celebrate their "pride", not to mention the repeated, intentional, money stealing and life destroying assaults on the business of Christian people for failing to do so.

I'm retired now. The reason I retired was that on my last job, in the break room, there was a story repeated every morning before work, every morning break, every lunch time and every afternoon break about a black football player who announce to the world that he was gay. I made the comment that I was sick and tired of people on the news day after day saying that it didn't matter if he is gay or not and if it didn't matter, it'd be great if they'd just move on and talk about something else. A fellow employee sitting next to me said "He's a hero!" And I said, "No, he's not. He's an opportunist whose going to make a fortune either playing football or by writing a book and playing the victim. Either way, for him, it's a win win situation and I'm tired of hearing it". For that, this individual reported me to human resources and threatened my job. I just happened to be ready to retire anyway, so I did. I made two mistakes: I failed to see the man as a hero just because he was black and I failed to see him as a hero just because he told the whole world he enjoys sexx with other men.

In addition to that, I could write volumes on how LGBTQ activists have been assaulting and undermining my country for decades now. Beginning with the coining of the falsely invented word "homophobia" which first appeared in the book "society and the healthy homosexual" where in the author asserted that men who don't embrace homosexuality are suffering from an un-natural fear of their own gender. That assertion is pure crap, but like all leftist bullies, the LGBTQ used the lie as a foundation to build castles in the air, and now they seek to make us all take up residency in that phony, fairy-tale utopian kingdom in the sky. So spare me your know-it-all crap about how loving and kind and decent LGBTQ activists are. I know better. To me, LGBTQ activists are just a bunch of bullying, subversive, morally delinquent, hetero-phobic pontificates who don't give a rip about anything but themselves. Just exactly as they are described in Romans Chapter One.

I have told you the truth, which, unlike yourself, I did not claim to be my truth, but instead Biblical truth. But you are too convinced that you know it all, you won't seriously consider any thing that disagrees with you. Like an old and foolish king who will no longer be admonished, you think your opinion is unassailable just because it's yours.

I happen to be one of those Americans who couldn't care less who is gay and who isn't .. so long as they leave me, my kids, my grand kids, everybody else's kids in the public schools, private businesses and my country alone. Honestly, do you think there is any chance of that, or do you think the rest of the country has it coming for not teaching our children to celebrate that kind of crappy "pride"?

I'll even go you one more: As a soldier back in the day, I would have preferred a gay man in a foxhole with me who would put up a hard fight than a straight man who wouldn't. Some things really are just "common sense". The problem is, like all bullying, pontificating political leftists, LGBTQ activists think common sense is a thought crime and defending it is a hate crime.

Further discussion is pointless. It makes no difference what you think you know about the Bible, how superior you think you are to it or why you think you are. Further discussion is pointless.

I'm just gonna block you. If you feel the need to argue the point more, may I suggest you do it looking in the mirror at someone who'll buy what you're handing out just because it's you handing it out.

MarsingID83639 #fundie

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(Commenting on story “China Announces New Measures to Govern Religious Groups”):

MarsingID83639:
I bet the Left here in America wish they were able to do what China is doing to Religious Groups.

Alan Smithee:
The "left" is only trying to stop you from mandating your religion, as is right and proper. We don't live in a theocracy, Christian or otherwise.

MarsingID83639:
BULL!!
We also, as of yet, don't lve in a Communist country!
The left is all about Control
Control what you can say
Control what you can read
Control what you can drive
Control what you can eat
Control what you drink
Control your healthcare
Control your guns
Control your news
C0mmun!sts er, the left Reshape and Falsify
Historical Data. Does the left
Destroy Historical Statues and
change the meaning of words?
Nice try Comrade.

Alan Smithee:
So I'm a communist because I don't trust you nutcases to keep your religion out of our laws?

MarsingID83639:
Glad you admit it. Why are you on a Christian Website like this one? Because you want to spread your lies and hate towards Christians.
Goodbye Comrade.
Titus 3
10 As for a person who stirs up division, after warning him once and then twice, have nothing more to do with him, 11 knowing that such a person is warped and sinful; he is self-condemned

Alan Smithee:
You can't possibly be that stupid. Do you know what a communist is? I'll give you a hint, it's NOT someone who wants you to keep your religion to yourself.

pastoredsmith #fundie

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Rusty Crosses:
I didn't claim that science proves transgenderism is real. I claimed there is scientific evidence that transgenderism is real. Here is an article that discusses some of that evidence. (Delete the space after each dot.)
www. scientificamerican. com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/

pastoredsmith:
One opinionated article "proves" your claim?

Alan Smithee:
It's Scientific American, for God's sake, Ed. It's not OPINION, it's a discussion of EVIDENCE.

pastoredsmith:
Scientific American? More like idiotic babbling based on skewed facts and imaginary atheist whims. BTW. "for God's sake, Ed?" I thought you didn't believe in God? BTW....your "evidence" is falsified, incomplete and skewed to make a certain worldview, just as Mr. Darwin, who was mad at God and tried to prove that man was not created....and failed miserably. "missing link? Nonexistent link. Is that an example of your "scientific evidence?" If so, you have nothing.

pastoredsmith #fundie

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(Commenting on story “Man Who Identifies As Woman Sues in Effort to Gain Entry Into Ladies’ Beauty Pageant”):

pastoredsmith:
haha. He is no woman. Problem here is that society accepts his delusion. Once called abnormal by every major psychological agency in the world, still prohibited by Scripture (that will never change), his delusion continues. Sad set of unnecessary happenings. Get this BOY some serious help. He needs it.

Rusty Crosses:
Should society accept your delusions? Psychological societies changed their positions with increased knowledge. Please cite the Bible verse that prohibits transgenderism.

pastoredsmith:
"increased knowledge?" you make me laugh.
One Scripture of many....Romans 1:24:32

Rusty Crosses:
Psychological societies have accepted scientific research. Why don't you?
I've read those verses many times. Christians try to make them condemn homosexuality not transgenderism. How do you get them to be about transgenderism?

pastoredsmith:
There is no such thing as transgenderism, as you call it. DNA proves gender....the exact same thing as biological sex. You claim to "accept" science, yet you simply cherry pick what you want to do as truth and reject the rest. No science has ever proven that a person is born with one biological sex and is actually the opposite gender. It's just another perverted lifestyle choice. Transgender? Homosexuality? Bestiality? Adultery? They are all the same in God's eyes. Sexual sins that must be forgiven. Sinful life choices that are just wrong. Yes, Scriptures prove these are all sinful and wrong. Why can't you accept that? It is the truth.

Rusty Crosses:
DNA does not determine everything about a person. For example, Maria José Martínez-Patiño has male DNA but was born a baby girl. It wasn't until the Olympics tested her that she found out she has male DNA.

pastoredsmith:
Rusty person, your precious "science" that you worship explains that well. It's called a defect. An imperfection. You worship "science," but cherry pick its outcome. Why do you do that? Can't you accept your own "science?" Obviously not. You have more "faith" than I do....only difference is that you have "faith" in the folly of "theories" that are skewed, altered or otherwise changed facts designed to produce a desired outcome, and then are cherry picked by atheists.

Rusty Crosses:
I do accept science. Maria is the result of a fetal development anomaly which you think makes her defective. Science has supplied evidence that transgenderism is also the result of a fetal development anomaly.

pastoredsmith:
No, you do not accept science, and you are wrong about my thinking "she is defective." She has an abnormality, and that makes nobody "defective." A defect is an imperfection in the original design, in case you need a lesson in the definition. Science does no such thing as prove that transgenderism is the result of any deformity except a fallen nature and a lifestyle choice. There is scientifically no such thing as a transgender. OK, let me use your line. Proof that science proves transgenderism, please. I'm waiting.
BTW. Psychological societies have not accepted scientific research. They manipulated it, just as you have. Why won't you open your eyes and see the lies and manipulation?

Rusty Crosses:
I claimed there is scientific evidence that transgenderism is real. Here is an article that discusses some of that evidence:
www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-there-something-unique-about-the-transgender-brain/
I proved my claim.
Please provide evidence for your claim that this research has been manipulated, skewed, altered or otherwise changed to produce a desired outcome. Where does the Bible prove transgenderism is a sinful life choice?
What evidence do you have that psychological societies have manipulated scientific research?

pastoredsmith:
Always want me to produce evidence. It's all around you, but you refuse to accept what is there. It would be a waste of time to argue "evidence" when you clearly reject all evidence except that which points towards your worldview choices. If you can't see it, it is because you refuse to see it. You demand that I approach the Bible with an open mind, yet you approach it with a closed mind made up because of a worldview you chose that has been skewed by lies.

Dianne #fundie

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David Jacobs:
I so love it when you loons turn on each other.

Dianne:
You have so gotten it wrong David. However your master has always caused confusion.

David Jacobs:
I have no master. I was born a free American.
If any man or spirit wants my allegiance, they will have to earn it the same way I would have to.

Dianne:
David here’s how your “master” gets you to serve him.
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Proverbs 4:19 The way of the wicked is darkness: they know not at what they stumble.
John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
Your free will gives your master Satan authority in your life. Freedom from him only comes through Jesus Christ. John 3:16-19

David Jacobs:
Madam, in the simplest terms, you are full of shit. You can fabricate and "interpret" any condemnations against me you want and they will accomplish nothing beyond confirming that you are a stupid, dogmatic, incompetent "debater".
If your Bible is the literal and inerrant Word of God, then all of it is to be taken literally. That includes Yeshua's promise that his believers would have the supernatural power to heal the sick, raise the dead and command a mountain to "Begone" and see it throw itself into the sea.
You people barely have the power to move an anthill with a shovel. If you want me to believe you speak for God, then show me the signs Yeshua promised to believers. Either you read the instructions wrong or you really don't believe what you claim.

Dianne:
David you vitriolic posts reveal who you serve and even when you have edited you profanity laced posts it has already been NOTED! The only reason why you have slithered into this Christian website was because of Satan using your hateful anti-Christ heart to do his bidding. It is YOU THAT NEEDS TO BE GONE!!

Ted R. Weiland #fundie

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Ted R. Weiland:
The Constitutional Republic was, in fact, created to impose religious morality, as are all governments.
There are no vacuums when it comes to legislated morality or, more often than not, immorality. Consequently, a government's foundational ethical standard determines its God.
Therefore, there are likewise no vacuums when it come to religious-influenced government, be it even Secular Humanism in its multifarious forms, and it usually is. Case in point: the biblically adverse Constitutional Republic born of the biblically seditious Constitution.
When one understands that idolatry is not so much about statues as it is statutes, it becomes clear that all governments are theocratic, serving either the true God or some false god, demonstrated by what laws they keep and consider the supreme law of the land.
Question: Were the governments in the Old Testament under the god Baal (or any other false god named in the Old Testament) theocracies?
Answer: Of course, they were.
Question: Was Baal (or any other god named in the Bible) real or were they merely ancient forms of We the People?
Answer: Merely ancient forms of We the People. See 1 Corinthians 8:4-6.
Consequently:
"...There is no escaping theocracy. A government’s laws reflect its morality, and the source of that morality (or, more often than not, immorality) is its god. It is never a question of theocracy or no theocracy, but whose theocracy. The American people, by way of their elected officials, are the source of the Constitutional Republic’s laws. Therefore, the Constitutional Republic’s god is WE THE PEOPLE.
"People recoil at the idea of a theocracy’s morality being forced upon them, but because all governments are theocracies, someone’s morality is always being enforced. This is an inevitability of government. The question is which god, theocracy, laws, and morality will we choose to live under?..."
For more, google online Chapter 3 "The Preamble: WE THE PEOPLE vs. YAHWEH" of "Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective."

Lydia Church #fundie

Lydia Church #fundie disqus.com

We are real Christians, and we follow what the Bible says, and homosexuality is a sin, therefore there is no such thing as gay 'marriage' and yes, we will oppose it!
And there is nothing, absolutely NOTHING under the heavens that Beto or anyone else can do about it! They can't stop us from obeying God, because that part is up to us, not them! They can persecute us all they want to, you name it, item by item, but they can't make us comply with their agenda of sin!
And God is on OUR side, NOT theirs!

Lady Checkmate #fundie

Lady Checkmate #fundie disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Atheist (homosexual) Lies: "Being Black is as Sinful as Homosexuality."

This a common alt-left lie AND offensive in every way possible. They continue to conflate the two issues. Race is NOT sin, but behavior/homosexuality is sin.

I offer that it is the homosexuals who are the true racists. Consider this, I have NEVER heard a Christian state that being black is a sin; however, homosexuals regularly compare their sin to our skin color. They have essentially equated the two and said our skin color is as much an abomination as their behavior. That is an insult to every person of color in the world and a demonstration of what they think of AA people (our skin color is an abomination to them).

On the contrary, Christian abolitionists (white, black, etc. ) ALWAYS stood against racism and slavery, oft times risking their safety, lives, etc. in the process. Christians obey God and walk out His word.

Scripture DOES NOT support racism. In fact, God punished Miriam for her racism when she spoke against Moses and His black wife and God's word says that to Him there is neither black nor white/slave nor free. God is GOOD. Resist the lies of the alt-left. God loves us and is not for racism. The enemy lies and seeks to spread those lies as truth, in an attempt to draw people away from God. But not so, in Jesus name.

[irrelevant scripture deleted]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADdr_3DixC4

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

Mac432 #fundie #homophobia

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This is sick but… anyone can go online and get legal credentials to marry anyone. So… if the homo/lez wants to get married, have someone in their own perverted community get a license online and marry them. Wouldn’t they RATHER be married by their own kind instead of by a “Christian”? If they hate Christians… get your own license and start marring all the LGBTQXYZ you want to.

Doug Bristow #fundie

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Doug Bristow (speaking about Pete Buttigieg):
He is a self identified homosexual pervert. The term buttboy in this case is appropriate.

Canis Vulpes:
OK Doug, you fat obnoxious alcoholic wife-beating asshole.

Concerning Ben Shapiro getting death threats #fundie #wingnut

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The alt-left is known for targeting and harassing Conservatives, and they have a fixation with Christian Conservatives. In the process of stalking and harassing Conservatives, the alt-left is not above targeting and harassing the disabled, elderly, women and yes, even children. There have been many reports from conservatives, Christian business owners, ministers, etc. who report they have received death threats, death wishes and rape fantasies from obsessed, psychotic, alt-left stalkers. The alt-left has no integrity, no morality and lacks the ability to empathize or sympathize. They are sociopaths who are demented, cruel and have a single-vision of hatred of any and everything that does not affirm their sin and issues. Tolerance is not enough for the alt-left, they want dominance, not tolerance.

They are also eternal cry-bullies known for playing victim when the target of their obsession, i.e., their intended victim courageously defends him or herself against them and overpowers them. They are all bravado until outmatched...they then turn into whining, slobbering crybullies...ripe for mocking and laughter at their expense.

Please pray for Ben Shapiro and his family. The alt-left is know for issuing death threats, death wishes and rape fantasies.

Mr Kish #fundie

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D.M.S.
Have you noticed the ‘ down votes ‘ here.
On a supposed Christian News source.
Quite unusual.

Mr Kish:
Yes I have I believe it is a mixture of liberal Christians and atheists. Either way 9/10 they have been seduced by the evil one. I hope you are well and blessed?

Ira Pistos #fundie

Ira Pistos #fundie disqus.com

(in response to Christian News Network story “Sprite Argentina Ad Celebrates ‘Pride,’ Depicts Mother Applying Makeup to Son, Another Binding Daughter’s Breasts”):

Justus Jonas:
So you're saying that you knew that a soft drink ad where a mother applies makeup to her son and binds her daughter's breasts was coming because it says so in scripture?
I'd REALLY love to know the chapter and verse of that one.

Ira Pistos:
This sadly is a problem typical of the Godless. This lack of a capacity for conceptual understanding.
Your childish misdirection:
"So you're saying..."
No, what I said is what I actually wrote.

Justus Jonas:
Well, this is a story about an Argentinian Sprite ad and you are somehow tying that in with prophecy. So that's what you actually wrote and it's still completely incomprehensible.

Ira Pistos:
I understand that you're confused. There is no need to belabor the point as we've already established this problem as common among the Godless.

Justus Jonas:
No, my confusion doesn’t relate to anything but your odd claim.
Maybe you'd like to state why you think this is "in accordance with prophecy". It would be better than making assumptions about the belief system I follow (or don't follow) and how that somehow relates to your baffling statement.

Ira Pistos:
Stop with your childish antics, they gain you nothing.
Your poor attempt at shifting:
"It would be better than making assumptions about the belief system I follow (or don't follow)"
This stunt is so typical of the Godless that it's become trite. I respond merely to what you write.
It's been established already that you are indeed baffled. Nobody seems shocked by that but for you. Stop belaboring the point. You want understanding then get yourself right with God. It's the only option you have if you want to step beyond your ignorance regarding these matters.

Justus Jonas:
Merely because I don't follow the merciless storybook God you do doesn't make me "Godless". You are typical of fundamentalists in that it's your definition or nothing. It must really bother you that people of other denominations call themselves "Christians" too.
The fact of the matter is you don't know what my belief system is, so it just makes you look ridiculous tossing words like "godless" out there.
All this fuss and rigamarole to avoid answering a simple question. Just tell me where in scripture it anticipated what you see on this soft drink advertisement from Argentina.

edwitness #fundie

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Alan Smithee:
I can honestly tell you I do not worship anything or anyone. Now maybe you can explain why you don’t believe me. I am being entirely civil and sincere.

edwitness:
A person's god/God is the ultimate criteria he uses to make his choices. For the Christian that criteria is Jesus. For you it is something else. Which is the sin of the world that Jesus came to deliver the world from(John16:9). The sin of not believing in Jesus. Only when one is delivered from this unbelief can they have eternal life. Because eternal life is knowing Him. John17:3.
Even so... Maranatha!!

Alan Smithee:
Excuse me, but no. Nobody has the right to tell me what I actually believe but me. I get very annoyed when people tell me that I'm purposely sending myself to hell because I have the nerve to believe something other than what they believe. The lack of logic and laziness is appalling..."Oh, well, you don't believe what I do so that must mean you worship satan and want to go to hell." Both hell and satan are parts of YOUR belief system, not mine...and you're welcome to them.

edwitness:
Excuse me, but yes. Your free will determines the choices you make in accord with the information you are given. The ultimate criteria for those choices determines the god/God you have chosen. It's really that simple.
And since it is the ultimate criteria you use in making your choices that determines who your god/God is, and since yours is admittedly not the God of the Bible, then it can only be some other. And because Jesus is the only way, truth, and life because He is the only person who has ever conquered man's death, you have disqualified yourself from His saving grace and will live for eternity with the god you have chosen.
Your God given free will has done all this. All because He loves you enough to allow you to choose your eternal destiny. So you can't blame God when you end up somewhere for all eternity that you never wanted to be.
Even so.. Maranatha!!

Alan Smithee:
Absolutely false. If you want to believe in something ridiculous like eternal hellfire, it's your problem, not mine. I don't believe in something that ludricrous and none of your religion's silly rules apply to me whatsoever.
My free will means I choose my path in this life. And that doesn't include your revenge fantasy. You don't know what happens after this life any more than anyone else does.

edwitness:
"... none of your religion's silly rules apply to me whatsoever."
Really? Then you must think you are not be subject to death as the Bible says you are, huh?
"My free will means I choose my path in this life."
Amen! That's exactly what I said.
"And that doesn't include your revenge fantasy."
What revenge fantasy? Whether you go to hell or not has nothing to do with revenge. It is your choice. The exercise of the free will that God has gifted you with. Because He does not force anyone to love Him. He loves you so much He allows you to choose for yourself.
The eternity you are so far choosing was never made for you. It was made only for the angels that rebelled.
"You don't know what happens after this life any more than anyone else does."
Oh, but I do. Because I have it on the authority of the one who knows the end from the beginning. The one who has proven this by telling of future events before they happen that come to pass exactly as He said they would. With 100% accuracy. and since He has been right about all these there is every reason to believe Him in regard to eternal life and eternal death.
Even so... Maranatha!!

Alan Smithee:
When I die, I'm going to die. I'm going to do what everyone else does. Just die.
"Whether you go to hell or not has nothing to do with revenge. It is your choice."
Only according to YOUR RULES. I don't play by your rules. They are illegitimate. When you tell me I choose hell, you're lying, because I don't believe hell exists. You can tell me that YOU think I'm going to hell. That's fine. But you're not doing that, you're telling me that I am choosing it, and since I don't believe it exists, I am not choosing it.
You Christians need to stop telling the rest of us how we think, and try asking us instead. We know our own minds far better than you do. Such unbelievable arrogance!
And no, you don't know what happens after this life. Your faith is just that...faith. It's not fact and it has not been proven.

Ira Pistos #fundie

Ira Pistos #fundie disqus.com

(commenting on story “Sprite Argentina Ad Celebrates ‘Pride’, Depicts Mother Applying Makeup to Son, Another Binding Daughter’s Breasts”)

Ira Pistos:
Exactly in accordance with prophecy, we've known the like was coming for millennia and we know where its going.

Roger Marks #fundie

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Roger Marks:
George Nathanson, one of America's foremost abortionist who has now passed on, said in a TV interview that EVERY abortion kills a baby. What do you know that he didn't?

Canis Vulpes:
I know terminology. Every abortion terminates a fetus. You want to use the emotionally-charged language to try to artificially win people over to your side, go ahead.

Roger Marks:
I have 11 grandchildren. Everyone is called a baby. Not one of them is called a fetus. When I say to anyine them "how is my little baby" they don't gasp for air because I am being emotionally charged. They come and hug me and sit on my lap. No fear their.
As you obviously have a problem with reading I will say it again. George Nathanson said, not me, every abortion kills a BABY.

pastoredsmith #fundie

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pastoredsmith:
There is nothing in atheism except denial. Denial, when it comes to refuting the truth about God, is a religion. You worship your own logic. And, my congregation is doing well. Perhaps you should join us. God will change your miserable, imaginary life into one of purpose.

bumsmcgee:
They are not that different than you. They just add one more God they don’t believe in to the list you yourself use. Your threats are just your own paranoid revenge fantasy. You can’t handle being disagreed with.

pastoredsmith:
You don't know me, yet you continue your fake insults. Typical of an atheist who knows he can't win the argument using his own logic. Don't know who said it, but they are right...... "
When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the losers." Had to be an atheist that said that.

bumsmcgee:
Yeah, it’s always the atheists people like you give the blame to. Anyway what I said is true. I just disbelieve one more God than you do.

pastoredsmith:
"people like you give blame to..." No, that is not true. "Blame" is not "given" it comes from actions. FFRF, the bullies you represent, are the people who are trying to stifle all voices but those who line up with them. It is atheists who want to rewrite textbooks and omit the obvious Christian influence on the formation of the USA and all the good that is being done. I've never seen an atheist hospital nor an atheist food pantry. How about an atheist version of the Salvation Army that feeds and clothes the needy. None exist. The absence of God in a life is equal to the absence of true, genuine love; for only in God can that kind of love be found. I don't hate you, although you certainly have insinuated the opposite of that here. To tell the truth is not to hate, it is to set the record straight. I pray you find your way home from your atheism before it is too late for you.

bumsmcgee:
You're just reinforcing my point. Atheism is an opinion and that's all it is. We don't form clubs and organizations, except in cases where religion oversteps its boundaries. And I know of Christians who side with groups like the FFRF on occasion because your side DOES occasionally champion political causes they have no business being involved with. If no one is there to keep your side in line, you'll get away with murder.

pastoredsmith:
Wrong. Your point is that atheists think they can command the government. You think that by sending a threatening letter to a school, you can prevent a Christian teacher from laying a Bible on her desk. You think that you can silence Christians in the public arena, but you will never accomplish that. You think that you have authority over Christians in matters of free speech, but you don't. And, it is NOT atheists job to "Keep your side in line." You are not the gods you claim to disbelieve. And, I can always tell when an atheist has lost an argument. The slander comes forth. Murder? You don't believe in the 10 Commandments, if you truly don't believe in God, then you don't believe in the Bible. So, it is not I who commits that which I believe is wrong.

bumsmcgee:
You are WRONG

Atheists have no desire to command or control the government. The point is, they strongly desire that faith-minded people like YOU don't either. You are convinced you have the TRUTH but all you have is faith, and many reasonable people disagree with the heavy-handed things you try to hammer through. People like you believe abortion is murder when it is NOT, not by the definition of the dictionary nor the definition of the law. If you had your way, people would be thrown in jail for not worshipping your holy book and homosexuals would be jailed or worse. We have the right and the desire to be protected from people like you.

pastoredsmith:
No, I am RIGHT. Atheists DO want to control and command the government. Atheists ARE trying to silence Christians. I notice that you don't focus your efforts on Muslims. Only Christians. And, I have the truth....faith in the truth is easy. All you have is faith in the vein babblings of man's wild imagination. You have no basis for morality, as you think one thing and the next guy something, so there is no base line to build on....like a building with no foundation. And, you add much to what I am as opposed to the monster you make me out to be. I believe in freedom for all; including atheists, homosexuals and the like. No, I never advocated anyone be thrown in jail for their beliefs. And, the "protection" you seek from "people like you" is exactly my point. You don't want protection any more than gays "only wanted to get married." you want to fundamentally change society to jail "people like me" who dare express the truth. All this and you still hide behind a "handle." You are a coward, stenching the world from behind your private little curtain. "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..." he is only a babbling atheist. If you wish to discuss, fine, But, stop the insults. I'll talk with you, but you won't slander me further.

bumsmcgee:
We have seen pastors calling for the execution of gay people. For that reason and that reason alone we need to be protected from the likes of you. You want your faith-based beliefs to be laws. You want a woman's right to choose to be taken away, and this is strictly based on your faith. You are RELIGION, we should have the right to say NO to you and we need to be protected from you.

pastoredsmith:
You have seen confused individuals who call themselves "pastors" calling for execution because someone is gay. Why do you care anyway? Are you gay? A woman's right to choose? What about the BABY's rights? After all, you say you are a person of science who hides behind that mask, right? So, if a whale fetus is a baby whale, what makes you think a fetus is not a human baby? From conception? You are no scientist. You are a hypocrite. And, I am NOT "religion." Religion does kill. Ask any Muslim who'd love to chop off your head because you are an atheist. People are very much imperfect; even and maybe especially some who call themselves "Christians." Can you testify to the good moral character of all atheists? No, you can't. No, you don't need protection from me. That's not what you seek. You seek silence of Christians; the very people who are doing good in this culture. Silence the hospitals and food pantry's and the clothing banks and all the good things that we (I) am involved with. You have lumped us in with radical religion because there is a fringe who are idiots, such as the "church" in Topeka that boycotts military funerals. These people are not Christians and hide behind the wall of lies they put up that is painted to look Christian. Sir, you need protection from someone, I'll agree. That someone is yourself. Your own twisted mind causes you to conjure up lies about me because you *think* I'm guilty of them. You couldn't be more wrong.

bumsmcgee:
What do you mean, "why do you care anyway?" Some religious lunatic decides that all gay people should be put to death, and wants to see the government enact such craziness? There are stats that say 1 in 10 people are LGBT. I care VERY MUCH that a guy calling himself a Christian Pastor would like to have the power to basically call for genocide. And this is something you defend?

The fact you're calling a fetus/zygote/embryo a "baby" tells me you're not being entirely reasonable. Of course I don't see abortion as something that is good. The thing is, most of the women put in that agonizing position don't either. But you don't look at individual situations AT ALL. You just say it's murder (it's not) and that's that. And once again, you want the government to enforce it. Yet another very good reason why the FFRF exists and why we have the right to be protected from people like you.

If the two examples above are the "good moral character" you insist Christians have, and criticize atheists for not having, I think can I safely rest my case. People like you scare the living daylights out of me.

Roger Marks #fundie

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(commenting on story “Mothers Reveal Pressure to Abort Babies with Down Syndrome”)

Another example of the hateful and appalling attitude of the baby killers who do not give a damn about the rights of the child. As long as they can force their ideology onto as many parents as possible and have as many babies as possible put in the hands of a paid assassin, who cares.

Children are NEVER the problem. The problem are the parents who refuse to accept that they are bringing a new life into the world that deserves the best possible start to their lives.

Not put into the hands of some butcher who will hack them to pieces because they are inconvenient or not perfect.

Abortion is gruesome and heartless and the biggest form of cruelty mankind has ever perpetrated on innocent children. The holocaust pales into insignificant in comparison to the millions of babies slaughtered at the altar of convenience. We jump up and down if someone harms an animal, yet we give our approval to killing a baby.

There is only one word to describe that and it is S-I-C-K.

Roger Marks #fundie

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Well, the government has finally discovered the truth. That a child does best when they are raised by a mum and dad.

What we need now is for some enterprising organisation to bring a case against the HHS on the basis that not putting a child with a mum and dad is discrimination for the child and consigning them to a second class existence.

I have been told that there are 3,000 pieces of research that backs the mum and dad scenario so if the HHS has doubts they do not need to have any.

The only thing that would stop you winning such a case is ideology. That homosexuals must not be discriminated against in any way even if it is bad for the children concerned. In other words, the wants of homosexuals override the needs of all others.

Roger Marks #fundie

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

Roger Marks:
What world do you live in? Take a look at the internet and you will discover that homosexual porn is 90% anal.

Justus Jonas:
What percentage of gay male porn did you expect to be vaginal in nature, Roger? I'm curious.
Likewise I think you'd be very surprised to find that lesbian pornography is about 0% anal.
A tip, Roger. Don't talk about things you don't understand.

Brian Matthews #fundie

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God's moral code is the only one I honor. Not yours.

It's the only one you will be judged by.

Right and wrong isn't subjective. It's objective. And, I don't "decry" coercive force to enforce laws based on God's moral standards. Why would I?

Tell me, how would it hurt you if gay marriage was illegal, AGAIN, like it was only 4 years ago? How would it hurt you if LGBT was outlawed AGAIN, like when I was young?

There was order back then. Now it's virtual anarchy.

As I said, the founding generation outlawed these things, and they were outlawed in the US for around 200 years without any problems. Then people like you came along and opened Pandora's box. And the evil just keeps on coming with no chance of putting it back in that box.

Why are you defending evil?

Brian Matthews #fundie

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Brian Matthews:
What are you talking about?
You just posted another random bible verse out of context, and irrelevant to the conversation. You can't just abuse the scriptures like that. You can't just throw random Bible verses at your opponents when the verses don't even have anything to do with what you're talking about.
I've tried to be kind, but if you do it again, I will block you.

Canis Vulpes:
So block him then. I don't know why you think everyone's interested in your drama.

NIGELTEAPOT #fundie

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NIGELTEAPOT:
the devil marches to The Throne of God and uses you (yes, you) as a specific example to claim humanity should have never been created. this is what you have reduced yourself to.
Strange considering your every action scream textbook possession. perfect possession, I would guess. you aren't so much controlled as you are so evil that your desires are united with that of the demons.
both st*lin and h*tler were that way. If only we could be free of your evil as well.
your eyes WILL be Permanently opened, or they WILL be Permanently closed.

jacksays:
Wow - someone needs a hug.

NIGELTEAPOT #fundie

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NIGELTEAPOT:
Notice how my posts consist almost entirely of definitions. That should let you in yo fact you don't know a single thing of the topic you are speaking on, and I am frantically trying to inform you so you can speak the same language like a Human being.
Beast of h*ll, do you not notice the little traps I leave in my messages for you? Of course not, that would require you to read them at all (though I know you cannot understand then even if you did).
Like when I point out that you will ignore what I say to just reply to what you wish I said. this is the textbook gnosticism in which your "atheism" is a slavish offshoot of.
reprobate means you have been given over to sin, and therefore marked.
monster describes your evil.
fa*cism and communism are both marxism and based in the delusion of "socialism."
once the gulags were closed down, they repurposed the serbsky institute into a political prison. therefore to mark people for execution, you called them insane.
back before the serbsky institute, calling people "f*scist" and "n*zi" was the term to mark people for execution.
Not only are you a milquetoast suburban whiteboy h*ll-begging beast of h*ll, you are now using TWO separate soviet execution accusations from two generations of evil.
you're afraid, you should be. you will be.

bumsmcgee:
I'm finished talking to you now. Go see a nice doctor who will help you, and take his advice.

NIGELTEAPOT:
you are not finished talking to me, your kind believes attacking Christians makes your shame over sin go away. you are trying to psych yourself up to try to Martyr me.
I enflame your shame over sin, which means you want to attack more. you are even trying to mark me of execution in the soviet style right here.

Narnia4Ever #fundie

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Seriously, like, you don't even have to go to theology school to get a ordination? Wow....so legit. I'm definitely going to believe in your religion because I find it so plausible. A spaghetti monster sounds so holy and so worthy of being worshipped!
(no, sorry, that was sarcasm) And you say that Christians are the bullies? I'm scrolling down these comments and seeing all the rude stuff you Pasta-what-evers are saying about other people. What happened to 'all are welcome on his list' or whatever? Tons of Pasta-what-evers using horrible words like F***K and S***T. What kind of look does that give your religion? Why would I want to join your religion if you're just going to be saying all kinds of nasty things about other people? I feel really hurt that a people who seem to take their religion very seriously would act very rude towards people who aren't one of their own.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #sexist

Lady Checkmate #fundie #sexist disqus.com

Lady Checkmate's headline: "Signs of Demon Possession?: Non-binary gender-neutral pronouns"

My heart broke as I read that the enemy has manipulated the lost into addressing confused people that struggle with sexual immorality, individually (single person) as "they" (plural). The unclean demon-possessed man in the tombs in Gadarenes was identified in the plural form because he was possessed by a legion of demons. Why would a normal rationale person address a single person in plural form? Demon possession...

Thank God that He (God) heals broken hearts and that His word is true. The GOOD NEWS is that Jesus Christ delivered the demon-possessed man and so there is hope in Jesus Christ for those who are caught up in sexual immorality (homosexuality, those who demand to be addressed as something/someone else other than what they are, etc.):
Mark 5:1-20 (KJV)

5 And they came over unto the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gadarenes.
2 And when he was come out of the ship, immediately there met him out of the tombs a man with an unclean spirit,
3 Who had his dwelling among the tombs; and no man could bind him, no, not with chains:
4 Because that he had been often bound with fetters and chains, and the chains had been plucked asunder by him, and the fetters broken in pieces: neither could any man tame him.
5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones.
6 But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him,
7 And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not.
8 For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit.
9 And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many.
10 And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country.
11 Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding.
12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them.
13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea.
14 And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done.
15 And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.
16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.
17 And they began to pray him to depart out of their coasts.
18 And when he was come into the ship, he that had been possessed with the devil prayed him that he might be with him.
19 Howbeit Jesus suffered him not, but saith unto him, Go home to thy friends, and tell them how great things the Lord hath done for thee, and hath had compassion on thee.
20 And he departed, and began to publish in Decapolis how great things Jesus had done for him: and all men did marvel.

Don't forget to RECOMMEND. Lets get the Truth out so that Light may shine bright in this dark place and Jesus Christ may be glorified.Even if the discussion is closed, please still RECOMMEND.

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Brian Matthews #fundie

Brian Matthews #fundie disqus.com

Attention resident perverts. I will no longer be responding to you if you respond to one of my posts. I'll just block you.
I AM FED UP!!!
I am convinced, that you are beyond hope, and God forsaken. I've tried, but I'm just getting angrier, and angrier from years of trying to warn, and reason with you. From reading your insanity, and filth. I'm done!
You wicked people support this mutilation of a precious, innocent child, and I no longer care what happens to you. I'm sick of you!
I will continue to post comments opposing this filth. Comments sure to drive you crazy, but I will just ignore your temper tantrums, and block you.
I've warned hundreds of you people over the years the best I could. If you insist on going to Hell, HAVE AT IT!

NellieIrene #fundie #homophobia

NellieIrene #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

I don't know any Christians who deny service to homosexuals. I have heard of homosexuals who have sued Christian small business owners for refusing to use their labor for certain events that go against their religious conscience. An enumerated right that is expllcitly found in the 1st and 13th amendments of the American Constitution. Homosexuals are not facing Jim Crow level "discrimination". All they have to do is go down the street to get their event taken care of by the 99 percent of the other businesses who will willingly provide their labor. If the homosexual cries victim loud enough, they will undoubtedly get the service for free.

Forced conversion therapy has gone the way of forced lobotomies. If homosexuals don't want this type of therapy, then don't get it. Nobody cares. But like most things to LGBT&Qers that's just not good enough. They and their leftist masters are constantly pushing for legislation to ban any therapies for grown men and women with unwanted same sex attractions, or for parents with children who have unwanted sexual attractions. Leftists and LGBT&Qers get to decide the issue for EVERYBODY.

If anyone lives a loveless life the fault is entirely their own. Love, happiness, contentment. None of these things come from without. They come from within.

The LGBT&Qers quest for tolerance has made them the most freedom hating, intolerant, discriminatory bigots of all.

Roger Marks #fundie

Roger Marks #fundie disqus.com

One. When you say you know a ton of christians, how many is that?
Two. I contribute to many different forums especially those christian forums where homosexuals come on them to attack christian and their beliefs.
Three. I have been on homosexual forums and told them the truth that they disagreed with and got banned in the first week.
Four. Even though they are christian forums the homosexuals always want the last word.
Five. You are not going to hell because someone said something. You and I mean everyone that is going to hell is due to the fact that you do not believe what God said.
Six. You don't need sex to fall in love. I fell in love with my wife and then had sex once we were married.
Seven. If homosexuality is a wonderful life as I have been told umpteen times, why is it that these homosexuals you refer to are poor, sad and lonely. People who have a wonderful life are not poor, sad or lonely.
Eight. What is SICK, is your inability to face the facts. In Sweden, approximately 2% of the population is homosexual. When same sex marriage was legalised, only 2% of those 2% got married. If homosexuals were looking for that someone special to love, how come only 2% of them acted on it?
Nine. What Jesus wants us to do is to oppose sin in all its shapes and forms.
Ten. The people that get upset are usually those who cannot handle the truth.
Eleven. If you do not approve of one night stands, then you do not approve of the activity of 90% of homosexuals as that is the modus operandi of nearly all of them.
Twelve. If they want to just live peaceable lives, why is it then that per head of population there is more violence amongs homosexuals than heterosexuals.
Thirteen. And you have the wackiest sense of what truth is. A case of the gospel according to me. One mans conflict is another man's truth. As Jack Nicholson said in a Few Good Men "That is the truth and you can't handle it."

Lydia Church #fundie

Lydia Church #fundie disqus.com

Nothing justifies gay 'marriage' since God condemns it. (And Jesus, since He is God.)

Leviticus 18; 22
Leviticus 20; 13
Deuteronomy 22; 5
Romans 1; 26-27
1 Corinthians 6; 9-11
1 Timothy 1; 10

Homosexuality is a sin.
There is no marriage between them.
There is no transgenderism.
God didn't 'make' anyone gay.
There are only two genders.
The fall of man lead to the sin nature.
God made us male or female and we are our birth gender.

Singing any song does not alter the facts.
That song has absolutely NOTHING to do with this issue.

God loved the whole world, so He sent HIS SON to die for
our sins to save us, not just from the stain of sin, but the
power of sin over our lives, including the sin of homosexuality,
so that we could be saved from that lifestyle and the sin
of homosexuality will no longer have power over us!
We will be heterosexual, as God intended!
Hallelujah!
John 3; 16

Eric #fundie

Eric #fundie disqus.com

Eric:
From context, the word sex means male or female. It would be interesting to see when they added the word orientation. Let's pray for Judge Thomas who is ill. If something is illegal at the time, then one could be fired for breaking the law. So if I find an employee is breaking a current law such as theft, I could legally fire him. So if Sodomy was still illegal in 1964 then it was legal at least then to fire homosexuals because it used to be illegal when we were still primarily believing citizens, I actually feel government should not interfere with ones family decisions either in the home or in a private workplace.

The Invisible Man:
Look at it this way: If you fire someone for being homosexual, let's say it's a man, you're firing him for being a man having a relationship with a man when you wouldn't have fired a woman for having a relationship with a man. So...it's firing someone due to their sex, isn't it?

Eric:
No, it's firing someone from your company because they are not a good fit, it's your company, and there are plenty of jobs at Target , Nike, or hair salons for homosexual men. There are many jobs not suitable or good fits for st right men too BTW so don't give me any unfair BS either.

The Invisible Man:
What sort of jobs do you think are not a "good fit" for homosexual people? What jobs aren't suitable for heterosexual people? You mentioned hair salons for homosexual men - why wouldn't a heterosexual man be just as suitable for that job? A hairstylist isn't a sex worker, you know.

Eric:
I would say tht a hair salon full of tee heeding gay men would not be a good fit for a straight man just as Sodom wasn't a good fit for Lot. But God removed him and his family befor raining down fire and brimstone on the city the day He destroyed it. They had gotten to the point in their homosexual sin that they thought that it was their "civil right" and "human right" to rape any man they wished too in "their" city. They did not respect freedom of religion or civil and human rights of others either so they and Beto [O’Rourke] share this characteristic.

♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥ #fundie

♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥ #fundie disqus.com

Dear Heather Clark/Christian News Network,I can no longer post on this site.Trolls have taken over this site. It is no longer a site where Christians can post in peace.They hate us, No matter what we say they down vote us.They have done everything they could to stop me from posting here.I guess they won. unless God brings me back.this is my last post here.It's sad when Christians no longer have a site they can post on in peace. Sad that this Christian site is more like a former Christian site. You let these trolls christian bash. You let them cuss at us.This is a real shame what these trolls have done to what was once a nice Christian site. Please consider removing Christian from Christian News Network. It is no longer what it once was.

♥LadyInChrist♥InGodITrust♥

Dear Father in Heaven, I seek You to Protect the Christians from the Trolls who have taken over this site.
In Jesus Name, AMEN.

Victor Justice #wingnut #conspiracy #fundie

Victor Justice #wingnut #conspiracy #fundie disqus.com

When will the Fake News Media stop? Quite embarrassing that leaders from around the world can see the same thing that most Americans do. Our main stream press is truly the enemy of the people! Everything that is actually good, to them is bad, and vice versus.

The Fake and discussing news media hates The Church of The Lord Jesus Christ! They hate traditional, normal families, our police, the Unborn, our troops, manhood, our great and beloved president...everything!

The Fake News Media degenerates love perversion and evil. Anyone that spits or kneels on our flag, the more deviant, violent, hateful...the better. They always want “justice” for thugs, while the honest, hard working, patriotic Americans, in their sick minds, should be held to the letter of the law!

Praise Holy God Almighty, that no lie can live forever! In a just country, the Fake News Media demons, would be taken into federal custody, transferred to one of our offshore Black sites, tried, convicted, and punished for an example to future evil doers!

I’ll never forget that beautiful November Morning, over two years ago now! Long live our wonderful president! God Almighty is deeply good, ALWAYS!

Brian Matthews #fundie

Brian Matthews #fundie disqus.com

Brian Matthews:
The Gospel of Jesus Christ isn't superstition. It's mankind's only hope, so you'd better accept that, or you're doomed.
Not all discrimination is wrong. Liberals use the D word as a bludgeon against truth, and morality. You use words like discrimination, bigot, racist, homophobe, etc. to SILENCE opposition to your wickedness.
As I said, the law isn't always right and good. Just ask a holocaust survivor.
And, yes, they have done something to make themselves that way. They chose their feelings over objective truth. They've deliberately rejected reality, and instead of changing themselves to conform to reality, they want to change reality to conform to them. They say they can't change, but they want the rest of us to do so. Well, I can't change either. I was born again by the Holy Spirit, and like my first birth, it wasn't something I did, nor is it something I can undo.
Not every thought, desire, impulse, or inclination is good and right. A kleptomaniac has to do something about his problem. He can't just say, "well that's just how I am". He can't just accept it.
We are all fallen, and broken. We are all born sinners. God provided a remedy for that, though.
Repent, and believe the Gospel.

Swampy:
I'm not talking about the Gospel of anybody, I'm talking about your ugly words.
I use words like "discrimination", "bigot", "racist", "homophobe" etc. to show people a mirror of how ugly their words sound to normal people.
It's true the law isn't always right. But in this case it is. And people would oppose it loudly if it weren't.
Your words tell me you understand nothing about BOTH homosexuality and empathy. There is no objective truth for one thing, it's all subjective, and no homosexual "chooses" feelings over any such thing. Did YOU choose your feelings towards your significant other? Of course you didn't, so why would it be different for a homosexual? And they aren't rejecting reality. Their reality isn't YOUR reality, that's all. If you're hopelessly locked into a religion that hates homosexuals, that's a choice you have made and you're going to be taken to task for it.
Your decision to compare a kleptopmaniac to a homosexual is for what reason? A kleptomaniac has a problem. A homosexual does not.
Homosexuals might have sins like everyone else, but their attraction to the same gender which they didn't choose and have no control over is not one of them.

Brian Matthews:
Are you really serious? Is this really how your mind works? You're not just pulling my leg?
You don't see anything wrong with what you posted? No logical problems at all?
This has got to be some kind of a joke that I'm not getting.

Swampy:
I can't tell if you're really incredulous over this simple statement of facts which should be surprising to nobody, or if you're feigning it to give off a sense of false outrage. Anyway, no. Read the American Psychological Association's page entitled "Answers to Your Questions for a Better Understanding of Sexual Orientation and Homosexuality" if you're genuinely interested.

Brian Matthews:
Oh, you are serious.
No, I was giving you the benefit of the doubt. I don't want to believe people are this stupid.
And why would I read a bunch of lies, and propaganda?

Swampy:
Oh, you're an anti-science asshole. Well, you should have just said so from the beginning.
As a wise man once said, "The nice thing about science is it's true whether you believe it or not." But by all means, stick to your poisonous hateful theology and continue to marginalize all the people you hate using your holy book to justify it. Because YOU KNOW that is all you are doing.

Susan Jane Elohim #fundie

Susan Jane Elohim #fundie disqus.com

Floodlight:
We are talking about raising a child, and the care and selflessness that goes along with doing such a thing. Qualities that are not absent merely because a parent is homosexual.

Susan Jane Elohim:
Go read “Are You a Carnal Christian?” on billygraham dot org.
Carnality is the great problem of human nature and Jesus came to forgive our sins and help us out of it.
Unfortunately, people like their literal i.e. carnal views of the Bible more than mastering God’s more spiritual views. There are a lot of baby Christians around who can talk the talk but don’t walk the walk and they like to hang out online.
But their example doesn’t invalidate the example of people who can walk the walk. Find those people to learn from then God might actually turn you into a lover.
Going from being a hater into being a lover IS true spiritual change and only God and Christ through the Holy Spirit can make that happen yet the atheists run around today saying miracles never happen.
But all you have to do is locate a few people who know God changed them from haters into lovers to know that miracles still happen.
So do your due diligence and seek.
Seeking is > arguing and you can tell that by their fruits i.e. results.

Floodlight:
Did you have anything to say on the subject of homosexuals adopting, or was this just a drive-by proselytizing?

Susan Jane Elohim:
I am explaining. The natural or carnal man is given to thinking literally. It doesn’t matter if he’s an unbeliever or a less mature Christian in the making.

Both start out carnal and literal minded because the natural man comes first then the spiritual man later if you have Jesus. That’s God explanation.

Don’t bother responding. I don’t feel like arguing. If you haven’t seen how literalminded and zealous an atheist can be then you haven’t spent as much time observing them as I have. To my way of thinking they spend a good bit of their time over reacting to literal fundamentalism which makes them just as zealous as some Christian fundamentalists are.

Why are you going out of your way to come over to a Christian site and engage people that you disapprove of if that isn’t zeal?

Think about it.

Floodlight:
I’m sorry, the subject here is gay adoption. I see nothing whatsoever in your walls of text that address that subject, and I can’t even tell if you support or oppose it.

Reconciled2018 #fundie

Reconciled2018 #fundie disqus.com

Most people understand about denying the fact that a woman and a man were designed to come together to use their complementing reproductive parts to form a biological family that society will die out without it.

Most people understand same-gender couples denying kids 100% by design the right to be raised by their biological parents.

Most people understand same-gender couples denying kids 100% of the time by design the right to be raised by a mother and a father.

Why is it we never see anti-Christian activists that claim to care for LGBT never speak out about islam that kïll those into homosexuality every day in the 13 countries they run? Could it be because you're islamists pretending to be for LGBT to attack Christianity?

Most people understands people trying to perform unnatural acts with their bodies with others of the same gender that leads to a disproportionately high percentage of death by disease, yet they want to normalize such behavior bringing that disease and death to others?

Most people understands many people who used to be into homosexuality have personally turned away from it, proving it's not genetic, but instead brought about by confusion, indoctrination, mental-instability and/or abuse. Their testimonies are all over the place and growing.

Most people understand that In the end it's God we'll answer to, and we have only to ask ourselves how we think that will go for refusing to stop sinning (be it lying, adultery, fornication, twisting marriage He designed and more) and refusing His offer to forgive and forget in the person of Christ Jesus.

Please re-read the gospels and forget what anyone or any church has claimed it says.

Conservative Protestant #fundie

Conservative Protestant #fundie disqus.com

Conservative Protestant:
Sticking a body part up where someone defecates from is just such a sick act. Anyone who can do that has a mental disorder and needs help. These people need help, they really do, something is wrong with them and most of the time they get harassed and persecuted instead of helped, it's all so sad.

Lucas Cranach:
So why are you talking about sodomy when the subject is homosexuality? How often do you think lesbians engage in sodomy?
This is your whole problem, you're looking only at a single sexual act between people of the same sex and ignoring the entire relationship which is no different than that of a straight couple. Would you focus on the sex life of a straight couple the way you are with a gay couple?

Conservative Protestant:
Well those are some ridiculous questions. So what do you suggest, only women can morally be homosexual? 42% of homosexuals are male, so that means 42% are sodomites, that's a huge percentage, but NOT the point.
"you're looking only at a single sexual act between people of the same sex and ignoring the entire relationship which is no different than that of a straight couple"
The relationship without the sex is just friendship, and I have that with many other men. If you add sex to it, then the relationship is blasphemy. I can't believe I even need to say that, it's just so simple.
You have NO idea what I'm looking at, even though I've made it clear, I'm looking at what the Bible says.
You are an evil person (you admitted you are against God, see below), so you can't understand ethics, morals, because without God what standard is there? The only morals there are come from God, otherwise it's just everyone for themselves. You have your morals, I have mine, someone else has theirs, who's to say which set of morals are the right ones? Only the Bible give a true set of moral guidelines.
Lucas Cranach -> Doug Bristow 3 days ago
"We don't know if God is real"
Matthew 12:30 He who is not with Me is against Me
You said you don't know if God exists, so you're not for him, making you against him. Without God, you really have no clue of reality and this discussion will never go anywhere.

Lucas Cranach:
"The relationship without the sex is just friendship, and I have that
with many other men. If you add sex to it, then the relationship is
blasphemy. I can't believe I even need to say that, it's just so simple."

And I can't believe such an outrageous statement pours out of you and you aren't completely appalled by your own lack of empathy. Do you not understand what the word "homosexual" means? Homo means same, sexual means sexual attraction. To call an entire group of human beings blasphemers because they can only fall in love with people of the same sex is beyond disgusting. And you want to talk about ethics and morals? Really?
My advice to you is to abandon your religion. It obviously hasn't done you any favors.

Oboehner #fundie

Oboehner #fundie disqus.com

Oboehner:
Ok then, so you have nothing [proving evolution], got it. Perhaps then you should as they say put up or shut up.

Lucas Cranach:
I didn't say nothing. I said [Dewey decimal number] 591.38. Did you go look it up, or did you play Mr. Ostrich again?

Oboehner:
If you can't argue your own points, all you're doing is proving my blind faith point. Appeal to authority arguments don't cut it either, having me doing your leg work to waste my time with more assumption and speculation doesn't help your case either.

Lucas Cranach:
I don’t need to argue them. Evolution is a science. Been to your library yet? That Dewey decimal number I gave you is still valid. We don’t need to appeal since we have proof.

Amos Moses #fundie

Amos Moses #fundie disqus.com

(Commenting on story “Church Vandalized After Pastor Opposed Drag Queen Story Hour”)

Lucas Cranach:
I don't support drag queen story hour but it isn't pedosexuality.

Amos Moses:
by default ... yes it is ...... it is the sexualization of children and it is grooming them to be sexualized .......

Lucas Cranach:
The guy reading is the one in drag, not the kid. You have it backwards.

Amos Moses:
nope ... the guy in drag should not be near children .... you have it backwards .... and the fact he is there at all ...... it is the sexualization of children and it is grooming them to be sexualized ....... and the photographic evidence of that is available ...... and a number of them have been found to be child molesters in the past .... so i am exactly spot on

Lucas Cranach:
I agreed with you it's inappropriate he's there.
I disagree with you that it's child sexualization. Because it's not and the child isn't being endangered, just being exposed to something they're too young to understand.
What do you think "sexualizing" means anyway?

Amos Moses:
“I agreed with you it's inappropriate he's there.” then why is he there .... there is no reason .... unless the reason is to grooming children to be sexualized ..... and to prepare them to be sexualized ....
“What do you think "sexualizing" means anyway?” you have already defined it .... I agreed with you it's inappropriate he's there ....... his being there is inappropriate and it is of a sexual nature in front of CHILDREN .............. to include twerking and getting CHILDREN to give them money for dancing like it is a strip club .... FOR CHILDREN

Lucas Cranach:
He's there to read a story. He isn't there to teach them twerking or have sex with them. What do you mean "grooming"? You think he's going to do something to these kids sexually, like molest them? That isn't going to happen because he's not a pedophile, he's probably a homosexual but they would have no interest in children.

Amos Moses:
Drag Queen Story Hour Is A Grooming Program, Says Sex Abuse Counselor
22 AUG, 2019

they are PREPARING them to be molested ........ that is GROOMING ......

Roger Marks #fundie #homophobia

Roger Marks #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

A friend of mine has written a well researched book on homosexuality and he writes a website on cultural issues. He has said that in all the research he has done, he has found that homosexuals are the most hateful people on earth as they can't stand the truth so they will hate anyone who tells it and they claim it is hate speech whereas it is really speech they hate.

Sister Lottie Davis #fundie

Sister Lottie Davis #fundie disqus.com

beaucejim:
Thing is that there was a time that Christians -unlike homosexuals - did actually go around killing people that THEY disagreed with. Your petty complaint rings hollow and your comment is disingenuous.

Sister Lottie Davis:
If you are talking about the crusades that was the Catholics, not Christians, murdering people. Including true Christians who had bibles and who would not bow to the pope. Do your know Jesus Christ as your Savior? He loves you and He died to save you from your sin. Give your heart and life to Jesus and He will give you the peace you are searching for.