@MerriedManJr
I didn't know you were writing a book! What's it about?
My autobiography, later coupled with my ideas on patriarchy, sluts, coalpha concept etc. More about inner life narative and emotions than describing actions/events. Almost no dialogue.
(Caamib's translation of an article about an interview between him and German news magazine Der Spiegel in 2014)
Male, single, life-threatening
The man who killed six people in Santa Barbara in May, was a member of an obscure community: So-called Incels live involuntarily as single, and some develop a hatred of women, which can be fatal. Who are these men?
Written by Takis Strangler
Marijan says there are people in his community who hate the summer. In summer they have no choice but to see more of the women, their skin, their bare knees, tight clothes and their breasts. Marijan says he does not look at women, and he was trying to avoid places where he has to see naked female skin. He says: "If you're hungry but cannot eat, you're not going into a street fully loaded with cakes."
Marijan, 26, from Zagreb wishes a girlfried, and because he’s unable to find one, he experiences his life as a torment. He is lonely, but in his loneliness he is not alone. His community meets on the Internet.
He belongs to a group of people who answer to the moniker "Incel", which is the abbreviation for the English term "involuntary celibacy”. Marijan frequents forums in which an own culture of solitude has developed.
People who gather there are almost always men, a few hundred in total. How many there are exactly, can be difficult to estimate, there are English, German, Dutch, Australians and especially Americans.
One of them wrote in the past year on an internet forum: "One day the Incels will realize their true strength and number and overthrow the oppressive feminist system. Imagine a world in which the WOMEN FEAR YOU. "
The author of these lines was student Rodger Elliot. On 23 May this year, Rodger (22), from Santa Barbara, California, recorded a video from himself. He put the camera on the dashboard of his BMW and sat behind the wheel.
He said: "This is my last video. Tomorrow is the day of retribution. The day on which humanity will experience my retaliation. Which you all will experience. In the past eight years of my life, since I reached puberty, I was forced to endure loneliness, an existence full of rejection and unrequited desire. All just because women never felt attracted to me. In the last years I rotted in solitude. "
Now and then Rodger laughed in the camera, a handsome young man with black hair and white teeth. Through the window of his car palm trees were visible.
A short time later, he killed three fellow students in his apartment. Forensic scientists examine which weapon he used. The wounds of the corpses are not clear. The police secured fingerprints on two machetes, a knife and a hammer.
When the men were dead, Rodger took his Sig Sauer P226, his Glock 34 and two semi-automatic pistols, and went out in the neighboring community of Isla Vista. He knocked at the house of a sorority. Nobody answered him.
A few steps further on he shot two students. He went into a snackbar and shot and killed a customer. Then he climbed into his car, drove through the town and shot at passers-by, injuring 13 people.
He rammed his BMW into a cyclist, slammed into a parked car and killed himself with a shot in the head. Rodger left a few videos and a 137-page manifesto. In it are phrases like: "Women are like a plague. They are like animals, completely controlled by their animalistic instincts, and corrupt feelings and impulses. "
Many men who became lone gunmen have, as Rodger had, a sick relation with women in general. Eric Harris, one of the boys involved in the 1999 at Columbine High School shooting in the United States, killing 13 people and killed himself, wrote in his diary: "Maybe I just need to have sex. Perhaps that would change this shit. "
And his accomplice Dylan Klebold wrote: "I do not know what I do wrong with people (especially women) - it is, as if they hate me and scare me. "
During a shooting rampage in Winnenden in 2009 Tim Kretschmer killed eight female students, three female teachers and a male student in his former school.
In the same year the American George Sodini shot three women and wounded nine more, before taking his own life in a gymstudio. Previously, he had written in his blog:
"Women simply don’t like me. There are 30 million desirable women in the United States (is my estimate) - and I find none "!
These gunman leave questions:
Why people had to die? Exists there a connection between the murders and the loneliness of the perpetrators? What has this incel community from the Internet to do with the murders?
Rodger can answer no longer, and even if he could, he could hardly give any clear answers. But there are people who understand a few of his thoughts. Because they share his anger at women and his loneliness. One of them is Marijan (not his real name). You can reach him on his blog, thatincelblogger.wordpress.com.
After a few emails he agreed to meet, in Zagreb, Croatia, his hometown.
Before a pizzeria near the Cathedral a handsome young man, tall, with jet black hair and a three-day beard is waiting, he wears a white, loose T-shirt and cropped trousers.
While shaking hands he does not look one in the eyes. As he sits at a table, in the back, in a quiet corner of the restaurant, he says: "I'm going to look bad in the article, but what have I got to lose? "
He says he was angry after Rodgers rampage. The whole world again only talked about tougher gun laws. But no one thought about other reasons that drove Rodgers to his rampage. No one had thought about incel.
Marijan talks much and long. He doesn’t allow a lot of questions. It is less a conversation but rather a series of lectures, which he conducts with great precision.
Sentence after sentence, lecture to lecture, he leads the listener deeper into his world, deeper into the darkness in which there seems to be no happiness, only immeasurable hatred.
Excerpts from lecture one, subject: Women.
Women are simply designed robots with the desire to procreate. Young women in past generations always had help from their grandmother. She helped with finding a man. She said: This is a good type, he will take care of you. These grandmothers were replaced with the magazine Cosmopolitan. Today women want to marry up. They want improve their station. I would not say that we Incels hate women. But if you were rejected 50 times, then you develop negative feelings, which is normal.
Excerpts from lecture two, Topic: seduction game.
Women can now provide for themselves, so their preferences have changed from breadwinners to seducers. A minority of men has sex with the majority of women. The successful men are the Bad Boys. If you want to have a woman today, you need to become a Bad Boy and lose your ethics.
Excerpts from lecture three, theme: a better world.
I want a society in which a group of men cooperates in total trust. Each man gets a woman. The women are fairly distributed. People are monogamous and marry as a virgin. If a man wants sexual diversity, he goes to a prostitute. Feminists would be made prostitutes in this society. When a man tries to seduce multiple woman, he is killed instantly.
Marijan and other Incels meet on various forums on the Internet. the forum, that Elliot Rodger used, is now closed. Another is a relatively moderate forum called love-shy.com. The members speak there about topics such as pick-up lines, plastic surgery and other ways to escape their despair.
The users of the forum had opened a discussion about Elliot Rodger. On the first page a moderator writes that he condemns the deed and that Rodger did not reflect the philosophies of loveshy.com. The moderator announces that all posts glorifying the deed will be deleted.
One user writes on one of the later pages: "I think about Elliot Rodger ... why didn’t he just rape a slut at gunpoint? "
Another user wrote: "I was always taught to respect women and not to be sexually aggressive. That was a bucket full of shit. All what they really want is a muscle man who fucks them in the ass instead of fucking a real person with feelings”
A user writes on one of the last pages about Rodger: "He is a martyr, in the real sense of the word, one must give him that. "
On the forum Marijan calls himself "Dante Alighieri”, as the medieval poet. Dante started his poem “the Divine Comedy” with the words: "Halfway through the path of human life I found /myself in a devious dark forest/ Because I strayed from the right path."
On the morning after the first meeting Marijan wears the same clothes as on the day before. He says he did not sleep well, because the conversation had him stirred. In the café he ordered a chocolate cake and tells his life story.
Marijan grew up in a middle class family, he has a brother, and both parents were employeed. In school he had many years of little contact with girls. As he started to get interested in girls, they were alien to him. He was afraid of them. "My brain has not developed normally, " Marijan says. He was "love-shy". The American psychology professor Brian Gilmartin invented this term in 1987. The men who suffer from this condition complain about their complete inability to enter into a romantic relationship.
Some men report panic attacks, when they are alone with women, some break out in sweat, others can hardly move anymore when they think of a date, to which they look forward to. Marijan developed a morbid fear of women mingled with a steadily growing demand for a relationship with a woman.
He says: "My standards are very low, as long as the woman is not overweight or is unhygienic. And I have trouble with bad teeth. "
At 19, he met a girl through an SMS Chat. She was 16 and said to Marijan, that she wanted to sleep with him. She showed him how she likes to be kissed. The girl became Marijans girlfriend. He was happy for a moment.
Then she went on vacation over the summer to an island. Before parting, Marijan was angry because he did not want her to go, and told her that maybe they should become just friends.
The girl went anyway. Marijan sent her many SMSes and self-written poems. When she returned, she told him that she no longer liked him. Marijan could not cry for three days. Then when he finally cried, he didn’t go to the university for months and stuffed himself full with chocolate. He didn’t get over it, says Marijan. After one year he wrote on an Incel forum on the internet that he was planning on shooting himself and the girl. The owners of this forum contacted Interpol. Marijan got a visit of the Croatian police.
He testified that he no longer wanted to kill. The policemen nevertheless arrested him and charged him with the suspicion of murder threats and put him in pre-trial detention. After a month a judge released Marijan because he hadn’t threatened anyone directly. The judge said, so tells Marijan: "Maybe you’ll meet another woman just outside the court."
It was followed by two years without a kiss.
As Marijan turned 24 years old, he wrote on an Internet forum that he was a male virgin and looking for a woman, that would deflower him. A Croatian woman contacted him, visited him in Zagreb, slept with him and then said that he was pathetic , as he tells it.
In the years after he managed to bed three other women. "One of them was crazy and
a total bitch, "says Marijan. When she left him for another, he remained lying in bed for months, he says. He thought about suicide, and spent five days in a psychiatric ward.
Later he earned a degree in Medieval History at the Zagreb University. But he never wanted to work, because, as he says, he didn’t want to pay taxes that will reward sluts.
Today he says he no longer dates because he never want to feel disappointment again. He’s been alone for a year.
Most gunmen send out signals before their deeds, signals which could have been interpreted as warnings in retrospect. Allusions, threats, videos on the Internet.
Some gunman stuck a note on the school toilet wall, on which was written: "Tomorrow you're dead." Some men start wearing black clothes and leather jackets before they act. Elliot Rodger wrote his fantasies on blogs.
Marijan says: "There are a lot of broken people waiting to die. And he says:" I do not know when I will snap. " This English word "Snap" has several meanings. It can mean break, tear or explode. Marijan says: "I think Incel that can cause people to shoot or kill with a bomb. "
He smiles, it seems as if he enjoy the moment. Psychologists and psychiatrists that deal with school shootings, try to explain why men kill women, but women almost never kill men. Testosterone was one reason, the researchers say, and gender roles are also to blame, since men are more likely to resolve conflict with force and women are more likely to retreat. At the end they still lack a satisfactory explanation.
The FBI, the American Federal - police, writes in a report about shootings at schools that offenders are often focused on perceived injustices. One goes through life and picks out everything, that offends them. Every stupid comments of a classmate is remembered, each breakup with a girl finds his place in the collection of misery, until someone thinks the whole society is against you.
Many gunman also like to play videogames, where it’s the goal to shoot people’s head off. And many suffer from a narcissistic disorder.
But correlation does not equate causation, so no handy formula like this one can be derived: loneliness + computer games + narcissism = rampage. There are many lonely, narcissistic gamers who never shoot people.
In the life of a crazed gunman something happens, that the psychiatrists and psychologists cannot explain. Evil is sometimes greater than a simple explanation.
The assassin who tried in 1981 to shoot U.S. President Ronald Reagan, said when interviewed: "You know a few things about me, sweetheart, for example, that I’m obsessed with fantasy, but why don’t you understand, that fantasy in my world becomes reality? "
Another gunman from the USA heard voices that told him: "You have to kill all. You have to kill the whole world. "
According to Wikipedia: "The trigger of a rampage is a combination of an advanced psychosocial uprooting of the offender, the loss of professional integration through unemployment, demotion or transfer, increasingly experienced insults and partnership conflicts. "
After all, what Marijan tells about himself, he has few friends, no job, no partner, and he experiences his life as an insult, which becomes greater each passing dayl. Those looking for long enough, will realize that the template fits him.
The last meeting with Marijan is in the evening and takes place in a restaurant, again at a table away from the other guests. It is a warm evening, but Marijan sits down inside the restaurant, the place where no one else sits. He says that he wished that women have the right to vote taken away.
Then he says that he once tried to kill himself with sleeping pills, but one and a half days later he had woken up. His eyes light up with pleasure when he takes on the theme rampage. Then he unleashes the bad thoughts from his mind in the world. He says: "I will cause dissatisfaction. I want to make people angry. I do not think that I'm going to kill people. " After a moment of silence, he says: "I want to spread a little panic. "
He again starts talking about similar topics as on the first day, always it comes to women, and always it comes to himself, he says: "I've started to see women as the filth that they are. " A little later he says: "I do not like people."
This article attempts to explain about the Incel community and the research leads to different men, who identify as Incel. One dreams of to find a farm where Incels can live together. The farm dwellers could agree to import women from Mexico and divided them amongst themselves. One sat with radiant eyes in a small German town and told of how he overcame his fear of women by simply spending more time with women. He looked happy and said it was probably a good idea if the Incel forums were monitored by psychiatrists to ensure that the users can find professional help.
Another hopes to, finally, in his mid-twenties, to kiss a woman. A few of these men seem lost. Nobody seems dangerous. And in end it became clear that there is no Incel community. There are only a few lonely men.
Many men from the Incel community can simply find no partner and look for help on the internet. For them the forums can perhaps save them. For other men the forums offer the opportunity to cultivate their hatred in a group.
For 20 years, such people would remain in their hole, alone with their bad thoughts. Probably a man is difficult to love when he is full of hatred. While carrying these thoughts, it’s possible to want to kill everyone around you and yourself. The potential gunman becomes Incel. And not the Incel a potential gunman.
Elliot Rodger was in his mid twenties when he died, he had visited several therapists, he had been bullied at school, he had his own blog on the Internet.
Marijan is mid-twenties, he has visited several therapists, he was bullied at school, he wrote his own blog on the Internet. One was a mass murderer. The other meets with a journalist and eats chocolate cake.
Rodger left us with the question:
Why did six people have to die? There is no logical explanation. His 137-page manifesto that he wrote before he became a murderer, ends raving about the prospect of killing people. It shall be the punishment for not getting a woman who loves him. Rodger has named the work "My fucked-up world ". He writes that he will retaliate and punish everyone. The last sentence of the manuscript is as follows:
"Finally, I can show true value to the world. "And in the penultimate sentence Elliot Rodger, 22, a young man from California, who had his whole life before him writes: "And it will be beautiful."
Marijan wrote recently a new entry on his blog. He analyzed why he is lonely: "I finally understand the depths of madness and sexism in our society. All the betrayal, the whole heartless and horrible behavior of women were seen as my fault. That is hatred. "
Regarding all this "paedophilia" crap I more and more see the idiotic argument that every adult is automatically in a position of authority over an teen.
What nonsense !
The idea that adults always have a power over a teen in sexual relationships is an ridiculous lie. If you have a teen of about 13 with some intelligence and a needy guy of, say, 25, with not much success with women, guess what will happen? Once she gives him pussy she basically has all the power over him.
SHE WILL PROBABLY LEARN HOW TO CONTROL HIM, believe it or not. She will learn she has something he needs badly and will use that to her advantage. The guy literally has to do what she asks for sex, she makes him buy her stuff and do stuff for her, and at any times she can withhold sex and manipulate him that way.
The idea that HE is somehow in charge is so absurd and unrelated to reality that it boggles the mind. Even if he had some sexual experience before her and she had none it doesn't matter at all, since doesn't stop her from realizing the power she has and using it like a pro.
I have seen this first hand, from an experience my, um, "friend" had :D
You guys have no idea how correct you are with the Soviet comparison. In Soviet Union people who didn’t believe communism/socialism could work were treated as mentally ill. It was simply incomprehensible to believe that. It’s the same with feminism/liberalism and men like this idiot I’ve been trashing around here.
You guys have never lived in the communist state though (probably, I guess). But my ancestors did and I have the encyclopedia from that time. In that entry under Capitalism you can literally see a cartoonish picture of rich fat cat torturing the hungry masses by throwing a roasted chicken manipulated by a rope in front of them. That’s literally how capitalism had been perceived at the time and gives you a good insight into the psychology of men like Johnny. Notice how he didn’t even bother to comment on the part where I told him that shirnks themselves rejected to “treat” me or that any sincere discussion with a shrink would result in me being arrested. This he doesn’t want to talk about because the former doesn’t fit his narrative and he is cautious enough not to openly admit that he does want to see me arrested regarding the latter.
When people firmly believe in the horrible ideas they have and think they are as natural as breathing and have the power of police and psychiatry behind them it gets very nasty and turns their previously free countries into next USSR.
(To clarify above)
Well, they didn’t exactly live in a communist one, not even USSR was communist, but the point was more about totalitarian systems. And keep in mind, my ancestors aren’t even from USSR but a place with the most liberal strain of totalitarianism during the Cold War.
"You declare Marc Lepine a saint for gunning down 28 people in cold blood because he didn't like feminists"
Yes, this is a good thing. Feminists are the reality's equivalent of Satan so gunning some women to oppose feminism is a good thing. I am aware that not all of these women considered themselves feminists but this is of no importance. They all likely held basic feminist beliefs, given that they were female students at a male dominated field.
"and then taking the coward's way out. "
Oh please. Many of you freaks even call Breivik a coward. What the hell is a brave way out to you after such acts? Dying in a shootout with the police?
[Quote caamib is responding to: "And yet somehow, those male feminists have several close friends, good jobs, and a clean criminal record while you, Mr.Assange are currently fleeing sexual abuse allegations by hiding in Russia.
Who is the one intensely disliked by men and women alike and seen as traitors again? Golly, it seems so obvious."]
This is the standard level of knowledge at FSTST
1. These male feminists have few, if any close friends because they drove all their feminist male friends away by calling them all abusers and rapists while sane, non-feminist males steered clear of them long ago.
2. They don't have good jobs. Most of them are crappy jobs writing feminist garbage.
3. It depends on what you mean by a criminal record, but if you're using a really broad definition anybody can have a criminal record if they're accused of something, like Assange was by those crazy twats in Sweden. In any case, he was never convicted of anything so just saying he has a criminal record because of unfair charges is insane. And it is known these charges are all fake and arranged by the US. By the way, Sweden dropped their charges in May of this year and the only ones remaining against him are those by the UK for bail violations.
4. He isn't hiding in Russia but Ecuadorian embassy in London.
5. Who the fuck sees Assange as a traitor? He's not even an American to be one.
Lon, your fairy tales are just that – fairy tales. They have little to do with an actual state of most human beings. Simply put, if feminism made all the men in the world incel they’d quickly tear the system down and massacre those responsible. They wouldn’t listen to middle-aged men who have given up telling them to “let go of hate”.
Feminism is hate itself. It can only be defeated by hating it even more. Men most forgo some “consent” crap as long it isn’t defined in it’s sane form – as a differentiation between a married woman cheating or a married woman being raped. The OT often didn’t even make the distinction between an unmarried girl being raped and her just fooling around. It mattered very little to the consequence, which was that the guy was to marry her. That’s how a man is to think. You can’t think in any other way.
Also, your loaf of bread thing is also incorrect. At times, dealing with women can inflict worse pains that simply never having any experience. I was basically a feminist until I got more experience with women and saw what they really were – animals. Now I have more experience exactly because I ditched feminism and treated them like the animals they are. I wish it weren’t so but the only culture where women do behave is a patriarchal civilization where men guide them to good behavior.
Aoc, if it should exist at all, should never be above 12.
(In regards to his daughter)
Oh, have no worries, I won't visit her at all. However, I'd like to try sleeping with her when she turns 12 if I can find her then but who knows what will happen by then
Well, Eivind, I congratulate you on your final victory. Predictably, all those idiots who chastised you when you were arrested and celebrated when your detention period was initially extended in July 2012 are now completely silent.
But what can you expect from such vermin? The amount of lies and hysteria they can produce is truly astounding, kinda like this nutjob in the comments who claimed you were under suspicion for murder in 1999 Norway when you didn't even live there at the time. But this is probably some of the less crazy shit they said. I remember liberals saying you were the author of Emma's posts, then that got your girlfriend because you bought her since she's a destitute Russian or entire campaigns to get you off University because your beliefs about rape somehow meant you are a rapist. These people have no knowledge of the material world. Their fantasies and incorrect nonsense is all that exists for them. They are dangerous, they are maniacs and they hate you because you're white, straight and male. They don't give a fuck about any rape or age of consent or whatever.
The groups they find immune to criticism could rape their mothers, sisters or daughters and they'd be ok with it. The groups they find immune to criticism can rape newborns, it's all ok to liberals since these groups can't be criticized since they lack privilege. You have to understand that to a liberal actual definition of rape is any rape a straight white male has at any time. They are self-hating freaks and monsters and they will get what's coming to them very soon. They have already basically stopped reproducing and turned women over to groups like Muslims and they have no biological or ideological future. Nobody wants a pathetic mangina who asks for consent over and over again every millimeter. Women want men who do what they wish with them, it is in their nature. Consent is a very useful concept within an environment of patriarchal civilization. Today it's a gone concept. You cannot have consent as something that is demanded of just one group of people and liberals actually believe that just one group of people has to think about "consent". And even when they do get consent they still hate this group !
Liberals have no chance with any of these women and they have only decreased their chances by making the women in their countries basically a monopoly of the Muslims. And in the end these same Muslims will destroy the liberals who cherish them so much and that is a good thing. Western world has forfeited its future. It is gone. It can no longer be saved.
Just looked at that thread. These lunatics are off their fucking rocker. Page 2 is basically them claiming I commented in their moronic thread (which I didn’t) and just commenting on that, despite the fact that I never ever wanted to comment there or did so. One of the craziest posters, a known lunatic and an admitted virgin who gives men dangerous advice and takes some “consent” nonsense as valid shows his inability to comprehend basic text one again, confusing you with me.
What’s so hilarious about these freaks is that for all their talk on “respect” of women or “anti-pedophilia” their ideology extends only to whites. They’d let their 3 day old newborn be raped by Muslims and niggers because Muslims and niggers lack privilege.
Those FSTDT freaks are some of the lowest life forms on the planet. They’re not even freaks as this would imply that they’re human beings. Notice how neither one of these monsters even considers that the allegations might have been untrue and just consider it a given that he did it end of story. And then their simpleton way of viewing things that could hurt you only shared with chimps. Knife stabbing – bad. Sexual harassment allegations? Not so bad. What morons ! I’d much rather prefer to be stabbed in some situations than get such accusations, as would most men. But no, to them it’s just a given that stabbing, no matter the circumstances, if worse, and if you’re accused of sexual harassment it’s a given you’re guilty. What vile, ugly, disgusting bunch of shiteating maggots they are.
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(This guy is starting to become like the DeviantArt version of Caamib)
Men are allowed to wear whatever they want because men don't stir up nearly as much rape.
I just love this nutcase who constantly posts that evo psych is dead or whatever. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts this person believes that we live in some rape culture or that we patriarchy is still something that exists in the Western countries and most be destroyed. It's hilarious how insane these freaks can be. That's also obvious in how they tend to disregard Moxon because he is not an established member of some "scientific community". Um, no, that's not how science works. You either can use the scientific method or not. Your standings are irelevant.
Women didn't want you because you respect them and you didn't want to rape because you know nothing about women. If you knew anything about women you'd know that you caused them more suffering by just existing like that and not raping them.
[Talking about a 19 year-old girl who was raped and murdered by two immigrants in Germany]
With all this in mind, who was Maria Ladenburger? Well, her Wikipedia article says she was a German medical student who died when she was almost 20 and unmarried (search results on other sites say she was a daughter of some EU official but that is less important for the quantitative part).
So let us try to bring statistics into this equation. This amusing Durex study shows that she was likely not a virgin. These stats show that it was about 35 percent likely she would have a child out of wedlock in just 2014 (Table 3) and that her chances of being married at all were— well, getting slimmer every year, with a slight change upwards in 2014 (Table 1). That is if she would ever have kids – luckily, there’s Muslims. Now, we can speculate this or that on her personality. Obviously none of us knew her. But even using just some quickly found statistics one can easily see why Maria Ladenburger was, like most young Western European women, likely on her way to be a slut who was to be childless or have a child out of wedlock. And bear in mind, she was not even 20. All the indicators I outlined here will get worse, not better. As one character from a TV show I used to watch said “I know it’s tragic to think that way but you can’t argue with the fucking logic !”
Qualitatively, things are a bit more tricky as they go into the emotional aspect which can’t be expressed with just numbers. But I’ll argue that they’re covered well enough. Most decent, moral men have their horror stories with women. Along with my February 2014 text, I highly recommend these stories written on CoAlpha forums in September 2015. One of the worst problems with anecdotal, qualitative evidence is that you can always find some moron whose stories with Western women were happy and most of our idiocratic society will find his story to be more uplifting and credible because the author is mainstream, even if it’s obvious by the way he acts later that his success was due to the fact that he was a massive asshole and as dumb as dirt. But, I won’t go into that any longer, seeing I already covered it and concluded that one must make their own conclusions on whether or not today’s Western women are worth it.
Maria Ladenburger was likely to become everything or at least most of things this blog is so vehemently against. Her parents’ money would likely ensure that she is protected from any consequences of her future shenanigans and that she is able to proceed with these on a high level. She was likely rotten even at the time of her death and even more likely to become rotten very soon. And she was, like current women in Trump’s USA, not to improve if some right wing party had won the elections. Had she lived, she would very likely be a source of trauma for every decent man in Germany (well, um, both of them) who was unlucky enough to see potential for anything more serious than careless pump and dump in her. She would almost certainly be a pest, let us be honest, Westerners. She is the kind of girl who would reject you for treating her respectfully so you can be called an asshole and a “nice guy” by her brain-dead army of liberal virginal fanatics (whose ultimate prize isn’t pussy anyway but being loyal soldiers of their own tragedies) if you object in any way while the moron with an IQ of 20 fucking her somehow has “actual personality” – a stance these loyal liberals would hold as long as those being annoyed with Maria are members of the appropriate groups one is allowed to hate (you can usually tell them by the color of their skin and lack of gay mannerisms).
With its brain-dead youth, assholish majority of population and complete internalization of cancerous social policies like feminism West is dying old man. So Maria was a sad but a necessary victim of a situation where West has forfeited its reproductive, economic and every other future to a stronger group like Muslims.
"No is because you don’t actually feel sorry for these people. To things like you stories of horrific assaults are just wank material for you."
I do feel sorry for people who get unjustified sentences due to maniacs like you and I don't wank on stories of horrific assaults. In fact, even as late as 2013 I COULDN'T GET IT UP WHEN A WOMAN I COERCED INTO SEX WAS THRASHING BELOW ME WHEN I TRIED TO PUT IT IN HER, despite the fact that 1. she came to my home 2. we already arranged what prize she should be given 3. she even blew me to get me hard to finally put it her 4. we even joked around later that day. This changed drastically later but what you don't understand is that most "horrific assaults" done to women today is caused by feminism, which made decent men unable to get consensual sex. That's why they must resort to rape - because consensual sex in the West is basically impossible to get unless you're really, really evil. There's exceptions but they're extremely rare.
" Hell one of your pedophile friends on you Wordpress blog asked a women victim to detail her date rape"
And what is wrong about this? Unlike maniacs like you, I don't fetishize rape to be some greatest crime and trauma on Earth. Oh, wait, neither do you if the rapist isn't a white male, and you'd let your mothers and sisters be raped by classes you see as underprivileged. But let's get back to this. This woman was under no obligation to reply so what? Btw, you know who also asks this of women who claim to have been raped? Institutions like courts do. Another thing you'd like to do away with !
"I made sure to spread his profile around to people who are willing to contact him and tell him what he outta do."
Where? To my e-mail? Nobody is even sending me any hate mail these days. Everybody knows I just get a kick out of it.
"Because of people like you I have the job that I have, out of all the hundreds of kids I’ve seen only 36 were abused by “child molesters.” "
If that's true I'd fear for the safety of anybody working with or being around such an insane, hysterical person. Adults, children, whatever. You are the ones with skeletons in your closet, I am probably not talking metaphorically. Just look at your post.
" The rest were attacked by pedophiles, pedophiles who caused lasting physical and mental injuries. Injuries so horrific some adults don’t even recover let alone a 3-year old who is repeatedly raped."
This isn't what Eivind is talking about, but now that you mention it I'll be honest - I'm not sorry. Regardless if kids were male or female, not sorry. I hate 99,9 percent of modernist Westerners and want only the worse for them. If some get abused, traumatized or even killed I don't care, no matter what the age. They would or are to grow up as bad, bad people. You are a grown up Westerner and you're a bad person. And so will/would they be.
" Pedophiles who drove 15 of these kids to kill themselves, deaths that I personally witnessed..... I’ve witnessed countless other suicide attempts by crazed victims who want their nightmares to stop....t. She killed herself when she was 10 years old not too long after I walked into an old run down shed after hearing her screaming and crying and telling the two pedophiles raping her to stop. Because of your kind she’s dead. I held her while she died and I will not forget that. I was 15-years old when she died, I still have the clothes I was wearing when she bled out. Her blood is still soaked into them and some days I have to struggle to not break down sobbing at that memory."
Holy shit I laughed so hard at this. This story continues here and here
http://theliterarylink.com/gretel.html
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm053.html
Also, how does a 10 year-old kill herself so efficiently? Tell me more about it. Or those 15 suicides you've witnessed.
" Your kind is a blight that must be purged. If only Hitler had killed you all, if only he could’ve killed you all, if only he didn’t target Jews and Romanis."
So aside from being utterly psychotic you also lack basic knowledge of history and think 2017 world was just like 1937 world ? Had Hitler gone after pedophiles (not that me and Eivind are that) he'd kill no more than couple of hundred of people at best even including countries he conquered, at even that's probably an overstatement. He'd have to kill just convicted ones who were convicted due to actual crimes the kind of which you describe and there were really a few people like that in 1930s. It was notoriously hard to even track who is homosexual without special lists at the time and many of the names were people who were set up for some reason while some gays were protected as long as they were useful (Ernst Röhm being a prime example of this).
". I hope someone finds you and kills you and each and every one of your baby raping friends too. "
I have never raped a baby nor has any friend that I know of. I think same goes for Eivind... You, on the other hand...
"Your kind is one without remorse or sympathy, you’re incapable of understanding right from wrong or caring about the pain you cause others."
... support blacks, Muslims or any other group you think lacks privilege raping and killing even newborns because they're Sacred according to you and cannot be held accountable. I know this and you know this. I know it in the way you write phrases like "far-right" or how you mention Trump. At the same time you want white males to have no fair trials, no hearings, just off to prisons with them. So why don't you just admit what you're all about? Because, believe me, I know what you're all about. I know you. You cannot pull the veil over my eyes. I will never stop fighting you because I know what you are. Don't forget that.
"People like you destroy lives."
Good.
"What makes you think you deserve anything good in life?"
Nothing, given that I never said this. What makes you think white males will go along with your idea that they must be exterminated but Sacreds can do as they like? What makes you think modern Western women deserve not to be raped by them?
"’m not a religious man, religion is false. But if Hell is real I hope you burn there, I hope you suffer every imaginable horror and humiliation both known and unknown."
Funny, exactly something I think about you and your kind.
" The day is coming when we’ll be able to openly kill your kind again. I can’t wait for this to happen."
There was never a day when you could have killed "our kind", given that people like me and Eivind were a majority even 50 years ago in most places. Hell, I mentioned 14 year-old eight graders with fuck buddies around 12 years ago. Nobody had a problem with this. It was seen as normal. That you equate those like Eivind and me with people who rape babies while you actually support babies being raped, just by appropriate groups of people, is why you're such a laughingstock.
No, pal, the kind of people who it will be legal to kill again soon are your kind. Liberalism didn't appear for the first time in history and always ended up with slaughter of liberals, before or after they destroyed the society which nourished them. You will be exterminated by Muslims you so worship and people like me.
You are guilty of most vicious crime in the history of the world, and that is feminism. I know what it did to me and many of my friends. There will be no forgiveness.
(talking about a news report in which a suspended policeman is charged with reading erotic stories involving underage girls)
Does the article say anything about how old the "children" (girls?) in the stories the guy read were? I mean, the story is simply sickening even if they were newborns, given that these are just effin stories, but it would be even more infuriating if they were like 15-18. That would just be one of the craziest, sickening and most hateful things I've ever seen, maybe even the most sickening one.
I remember using SMS flert services back in mid 2000s. At least several times I've ran into 14 or 15 year-old girls who were very, very sexually active. One openly bragged about having a "fuck buddy" while being an eight grader and wanted to meet me as well. Of course, things have changed a lot since then here and become a lot more hateful as well.
As had been previously explained, America had pretty much for all intents and purposes died by 1920 and the disastrous decision of the 19th Amendment, though some opinions place the beginning of the end even earlier, in 1800s. So in this aspect, which is a crucial one, America will not return to sanity. Trump won’t abolish women’s suffrage, he won’t bring women back into kitchens, none of this will happen. Did the Bush presidency restore the value of American women? Did the Reagan presidency stabilize what was a rapidly plummeting value of American women in the 80s (of course, with certain noble exceptions of women in backwoods areas, exceptions which still exist today) ? No, the battle is lost. The best aspect in terms of women will be, as Roosh says, to make it easier to find a fellow traveler. But even there you need to be careful which traveler to choose.
In terms of feminism, SJWs, alt-right etc, all of these things are kinda irrelevant ultimately if you look at the paragraph above, which outlines the real crux of the issue. Without abolishing women’s suffrage, without a hasty return to strict patriarchy, nothing of real relevance will happen. And we know Trump could never do that
I detest Caamib for a great many reasons but he is a god compared to you. You should bow down and worship him as he is clearly superior to you. Personally I think you would be a better person if you had a god. Accept Caamib as your deity and worship him daily.
So sick of this blue pilled idealistic cuck nonsensical bullshit.
Go throw your obvious falsehoods and idealism somewhere else. If any of it was true life would not be hell for non alpha males. Normies are in denial or they would realize being a beta bux or beta cuck bitch isn't a life worth living either.
Just lol at being a male in any western country in 2016. Bet 2017 will be even worse.
[In response to a post by Kitty Kaboom, where she talked about her two disabled children]
"It doesn't matter what you look like."
"Don't let shitwits like caamib... convince you otherwise"
That's not really necessary, dear. I am a staunch anti-lookist.
"It's the content of your thoughts, words and emotions that people care about"
Absolutely, but not if you have anything like
" Depth. Compassion. Empathy. Intellect."
These things are extremely repellent to vermin like modern Western women.
Also, I hope both of your kids die, you filthy cunt.
You are clearly a modern moron. There is no hatred of women in [a rant by caamib that the OP praises as "required reading". Excerpts here]. The hatred is of modern Western culture, and is well deserved since modern Western culture is pure evil.
FOUR TYPES OF MALES
There are basically four types of males or male mating strategies in the world.
ALPHA MALES
General description: These are dominant, strong men who are usually the leaders. Their intelligence and morality are less important but must have at least average intelligence and are often quite intelligent. Alphas are men like a Fortune 500 CEO, mafia leader like Tony Soprano or statesmen like Vladimir Putin.
Mating strategy: The way these males reproduce is by dominance/high status/strength.
Examples: a strong king, warrior etc (in the past), strong mafia leader, statesman, CEO of a Fortune 500 company
BETA MALES
General description: Weaker than alphas. Not suited for leadership positions. Providers. Their intelligence and morality are less important and while they’re almost always of average to good morality they don’t think about morality much. Their role as a provider requires them to usually have at least average intelligence.
Mating strategy: These men offer their resources for female emotional and sexual fidelity.
Examples: A good foot-soldier, worker, employee
OMEGA MALES
General description: Weakest type. They lack the respect of other men, except the most superficial “respect” from fellow idiots so they’re not fit to lead any organization aspiring for success. They are of low morals and often low intelligence. They don’t necessarily have to be stupid, but they are always immoral. However, since stupid omegas won’t care about child support they also won’t care about contraception, which means they will have as many children as they can. This means that being a stupid omega is currently the best type in terms of reproduction.
Mating strategy: These men use seduction. Their lack morals and often poor intelligence means they’re not fit for long-term relationships. Their evolutionary advantage is their immorality. Since they’re despised by all other types and are not in any alliance with them they will not hesitate to seduce other men’s girlfriends and wives.
Examples: Throughout most of history/ in societies that aren’t omega societies – a conniving man with a bad reputation for seducing women.
In omega societies/many current societies (and practically all Western ones) – an immoral, stupid deadbeat who gets women due to being a moron. For example, a PUA but not just them. Most men today are omegas.
COALPHA MALES
General description: Weaker than alphas but stronger than betas and omegas. Their possess a high level of intelligence and morality. But the fact that they’re smarter than betas is even a sort a hindrance to them in a modern society, as these men won’t be foolish enough to support a used up slut in her 30s and her child so no women will want them at all (I will explain why later).
Mating strategy: Mating strategies of these men depend on the kind of society they found themselves into, which will be explained very soon. In alpha societies these men are usually in position very similar to betas but if the alpha society hold values like intelligence and morality in relatively high regard they might be more attractive to women due to these qualities. But, their best mating strategy is to form a coalpha group, which assimilates both alphas and betas into a monogamous society where each man has a single wife and excludes omegas.
Examples: leading class in the golden periods of Athens, Roman Republic, England 1500-1800 AD, early USA, members of CoAlpha forums, any man with high intelligence and morals who wants increased co-operation between men.
[Excerpt from his manifesto "THE STORY OF YOUR INCEL – AN INCONVENIENT TRUTH"]
NECESSARY PRECURSORS
1) All civilized societies were patriarchies.
2) Women are agnostic about male behavior. This means they’re not naturally attracted to any type of man but that their preferences change depending on which kind of men is the most successful with women.
3) In connection to nr.2, women’s preference for a type of male changes simply based on a degree of success a type has with most women.
4) Seduction is worthless, even harmful for most species, as it does not promote any valuable traits that make the species better. It is a form of deceit males make do spread their genes and it creates worthless offspring. This is explained by a phenomenon called https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fisherian_runaway
5) I believe voting is a privilege that should only be given to intelligent men and shouldn’t be given to women.
Amazing !
Three accusations, neither of which bear any resemblance to reality.
1. You claim I contradict myself, yet nobody ever managed to provide a single example. When they tried they have just shown that they don't understand and twist my words, like when they said I oppose rape and killing of Western women by Muslims but am for Islamic rule in fact I fully support rape and killing of Western women by Muslims but dislike that libtards like you want to make this legal just for Muslims. This is a huge difference. Modern Western women deserve to be killed by Muslims, but they also deserve to be killed by whites as well. You liberals just want them killed by Muslims but don't want them even touched by non-Muslim whites.
2. And then, after this, you make a strawman about some of the most basic things I believe - guess what, I don't believe in an "organized" effort against such men. I claim it was a spontaneous process that started in the 1920s with the 19th Amendment. These things happen very slowly and spontaneously. Hell, 19th Amendment was in 1920 and it took about 40 years for America to have its first slut generation.
3. In conclusion, even your third claim manages to be batshit - I don't "self-promote" myself as anything. I don't give a shit how anybody will see me nor do I get anything out of it.
So, another delusional moron living in lalaland who thinks he/she can criticize somebody while lacking basic knowledge about their ideas.
The word rape has various meanings today. Some, like the one which will be about its sane legal definition, are sadly mostly historical in current Western culture, though they still subsist in some saner cultures even today. So what are these definitions?
Sane definition of the act of rape – This definition is also consistent with Common Law (“Carnal knowledge of a woman forcibly and against her will”) and even with evolutionary psychology (“Human copulation resisted by the victim to the best of her ability unless such resistance would probably result in death or serious injury to her or others she commonly protects” is the definition used by Thornhill & Palmer in A Natural History of Rape).
So rape can only be performed by a penis and of course women can’t rape men.
Sane legal definition of rape – Sane legal systems differentiate between act of rape and a crime of rape. A sane legal definition of rape doesn’t believe all acts of rape are crimes of rape. What nonsense would it be to believe that and to treat the whims of some sluts as actually defacing a virgin or a married woman !
A sane legal definition of rape would define rape as a property crime against the woman’s father or husband. Also, rapes against prostitutes should be prosecuted. But it would certainly never account for rapes of sluts, and would consider raping a slut a justified response that should be praised, not persecuted.
Current insane definition of the act/crime of rape – I am saying act/crime of rape because insane modern Western cultures basically don’t differentiate between the act of rape and a crime of rape. In any case, this definition had been, especially since 2000, expanded to include much more than just the actual act of rape. It now includes any form of coercion, inserting objects into sexual orifices, even the insane claim that a woman can rape a male ! There are feminists/liberals insane enough to believe Brock Turner raped some unconscious woman he fingered or that I raped a woman who offered my sex herself in a phone call, simply because I put her picture on my blog when she decided to torture me (as she later admitted herself).
An actual moral definition of rape used by feminists/liberals – this is what almost all feminists and liberals actually see as rape. It is defined as any act a straight white male does to get sex. Asking a woman out by a straight white male is rape to liberals. Going on a date if you’re a straight white male is rape. On the other hand, no actual act of rape, even rape of smallest children, is rape if it is done by Sacred Classes like blacks, Muslims or Hispanics.
I will admit that there are some feminists and liberals who don’t believe so, but these mostly stop calling themselves feminists or liberals once they realize what these ideologies are about.
It is also true that this definition isn’t yet widely used in law but and police officers and judges who don’t use this definition are seen as vermin by liberals and there are places in the West where it’s slowly getting there .
Female definition of rape– Women simply define rape as sex they regret, and pay basically no intention to any other circumstances, including physical pain. So this definition is completely silly and shouldn’t be regarded by anybody sane as anything more than what 5 year-old children think. That some legal systems are starting to bring this definition into equation (though usually by ignoring the sex with a member of Sacred classes females regret) is simply a symptom of a decaying society.
[On being accused of lacking empathy]
Unlike the imbeciles here who say that being permanently denied relationships and sex because you are not a rapist and a murderer is a-ok and no problem, but getting a dick in a place where it is designed to go into is the biggest trauma ever lol? Women are biologically designed to love rape. That they didn't in some societies was only because men instilled the desire to mate with their husbands in certain patriarchal societies by mating them with coalphas. Aversion to rape is a result of patriarchies.
Modern Western women hate respect. They hate consent. They love bloody beatings. They love death. That you delusional idiots don't see that is why most of you are just the way you imagine these incels to be - complete virgins. You are the ones who don't see what's wrong.
So all men ever want is sex, paid or not? They never want relationships/marriage, or unpaid sex? See how insane you are? You're in no position to give anybody any advice. You're completely insane.
And, yes, these communities ban proposing therapy because it's not an actual proposition. It's your religion. Notice how this one lunatic says that even if therapy doesn't work it's merely your fault. How is that different from religion? It isn't, not at all. So banning such proposals is merely about removing crazy zealots like you. There is simply no way to explain to you why therapy could never work, even when using basic concepts like that women like evil and therapy can't make you evil. It is impossible. Hence it is not allowed, just like some Christian nutcases aren't allowed to preach at just about any location.
And, no, lol, you libtards don't care about actual "rape". You care about white straight men never getting anything, and you don't mind your sacred classes like minorities doing whatever they want. Criticizing them would be like criticizing Jesus Christ to liberals, because, at the end, you're just religious nutcases. Any act by the sacred class, any rape, murder, anything, is a Holy act to liberals.
I am of Serbian heritage. During WW2 my ancestors lived in the notorious Independent State of Croatia, where hundreds of thousands of Serbs were murdered by the Ustasha movement. Yet, my ancestors fought against this, some of them joining the Yugoslav Partisans or going into hiding if they were too young. Other Serbs would flee to some other country nearby or join the Chetnik movement.
Despite the fact that the Serbian regime in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was often brutal towards non-Serbs, there was nothing ordinary Serbs living in NDH did to deserve such pogroms.
So if some Ustasha during a WW2 captured a Serbian woman and dragged her to execute her Ustashas would be stunned and probably laughed themselves silly if her brother, husband or a father was going after them and begging them to allow him to break one of her legs or shouting at them to shoot her in the head because they're both monsters.
And bear in mind, this Serbian regime lasted until 1941, and WW2 in Yugoslavia from 1941 to 1945 !
Slavery ended in America and other places in the West over a hundred years ago, most regular Americans did nothing to harm the Muslims, blacks or their other holy groups, *certainly no living American participated in regular, state sanctioned slave trade while many of the Serbs that resisted from 1941 were a part of an oppressive regime before April 1941*, yet they would act just the way WW2 Serbs never did.
These imbeciles have no idea that it was other Africans who captured slaves for the Europeans and sold these to them, that Arabs held many slave trade routes in which the mortality of black slaves was much higher then on Western ships, that Barbary pirates were regularly capturing white slaves up to 19th century in the Mediterranean or that it were Western countries that ended slavery.
They are ridden with white guilt and so historically illiterate that I know they would be the ones doing what I described as something that WW2 Serbs would never do. Once blacks, Muslims or some other group liberals find sacred would try to capture or kill their women they'd actively encourage them to kill these women, screaming how they all must be punished for being monsters. I was just imagining one of these liberals running after a pack of blacks, Muslims or whatever other group liberals find sacred who are carrying his wife and begging them hysterically to let him harm her as well, to allow him to beat her more severely than they would, as if to somehow wash off their horrible sins. It made me laugh so hard.
What pathetic lunatic cucks liberals are.
>I think I answered most of it above
You didn't answer jack shit. You're the same idiot you always were. And now you've reached the levels of stupidity that...
>but I dont get this sacred clasee stuff, I don't know what you mean.
... I have to explain your own religion to you?
You don't understand your own religion?
DUDE, YOU'RE A LIBERAL.
**PRIVILEGE**
Do you understand?
Non - privileged people are sacred, you owe them everything and they can do whatever they want, to whomever they want. They can kill your mother, sister, whore "gf", anybody, and you will be dancing.
Are you really demented enough not to see that?
>like I dont believe you have had enough experience with women
Again, if you "believe" that you failed to read anything I wrote about my experience. Thus it's not a belief anymore but a delusional attack. Like me saying I believe Bill Gates is poor. I believe it. I really do. And somebody's supposed to take me seriously and not ban me because I'm a moron.
>you can respectfully disagree without banning people and disregarding them
Unless they're a) breaking the rules b) being delusional lunatics, which is what you are doing and being in your every post.
>It wasn't abuse or insults
It was, given that your "opinion" has nothing to do with reality of my life I described.
>which intrigued me for a bi
Yet you never tried to actually read and learn anything about it. So this is another lie.
>I love how you keep calling me a liberal.
You support every single feminist policy. That you "don't like" the world you wholeheartedly support is why you're a moron. Get back to me when you start supporting eradication of every single feminist, abolition of every single political right women have and a return to a strictly patriarchal society. Because, you fucking idiot, lack of these created today's world.
But I'm "anti women" for knowing how to solve these problems, you know?
Go fuck yourself you mental midget.
Yawn. Just more idiocy.
So you admit you shouldn't have said those things, but they were, even though you yourself admit were wrong and dumb as fuck, supposed to "shake me up"? Hahahah oh wow.
And, no, once again, if your "opinion" is something that has nothing to do with anything I ever stated, then it's not an opinion. It really isn't that hard. I mean, it is to you since you're mentally retarded. but it shouldn't be to anybody with an IQ above 20.
>So why cant others so the same, even if its directed at you?
BECAUSE MY OPINIONS DON'T BREAK THE RULES. YOURS DO, AS THEY'RE ABOUT ATTACKING ME WITH INCORRECT CLAIMS ABOUT SHIT I MOSTLY EXPLAINED BY 2013, YOU TOOL.
>if someone says they dont think your very smart based on what you say, you can disagree but accept its their opinion.
Not why you were banned, you lunatic. Keep playing the victim.
>but I think someone should have sat down with you when you were much much younger and taught you a bit about women and relationships
**HAHAHAHA MY PARENTS, WHO DIDN'T GROW UP IN A FEMINIST SOCIETY, WERE SUPPOSED TO TEACH A 12 YEAR-OLD ME TO SHOOT A GIRL OF THE SAME AGE IN THE HEAD- HAHAHAHAHA**
>but its like you turned your sub into your own safe space.
I have protected it from insane monsters like you and will continue doing so. This is by no means a safe space, as people are disagreeing with us every day. It's just not allowing crazy fucks like you in.
>your mind on women or racism I think it would make you a lot happier.
Of course. Being as delusional and stupid as you would make me somewhat happier. So would heroin. The same deal. You're selling snake oil, pal. Dangerous, cancerous snake oil.
And see how he uses the term "racism", and that's wrong, while supporting blacks killing everybody white in the world oh wow.
And, once again, go fuck yourself.
[I'll gladly remain a virgin if it takes forcing myself on someone just to get laid.]
Then you are fucking insane. This is like some Christian saying that you'd rather be starving than eating at a McDonalds set in what was once a Church. Modern women hate men who are virgins and love rape.
The idea that a man is a pedophile if he sleeps with a 13 yo girl is based on the notion that he is is sleeping with "underage" girls because that's what the bad laws say.
The thing is - These laws are utterly insane.
Imagine if the age of consent was 30. Would you think a sex with a 29 year-old woman being banned would be crazy?
What if the age of consent was 80? Would you agree that having sex with a 79 year-old woman because she is too young being a crime is crazy?
Well, guess what - that's how a sane man feels in a modern Western world. If you thought that the ideas with 30 or 80 were crazy that's how we feel when we read your batshit ideas.
The idea of "pedophilia" over the age of 12 is the idea of completely insane people and insane laws that are implemented and upheld. It has nothing to do with actual physical and biological reality. It's based on a fundamentally flawed idea on sex being a traumatic, dangerous act and is puritan nonsense liberals are defending staunchly and thus proving the point many realize about them, which is that they're not progressive or actually liberal but small minded followers of what's most popular.
What must, of course, be noted is that liberals want to apply these insane laws only to whites. A liberal would have no problem with a black, Muslim or any other member of some of their sacred groups having sex with their 2 month old baby if they want it. That would be a no problem at all for a liberal. But this is because a liberal sees statutory rape, or any rape, as white men doing anything to get a woman. To a liberal brutally and forcefully fucking a white woman by a member of a sacred group isn't a crime but a white man asking a woman for coffee is a severe crime. When it comes to white women and the "rapes" liberals claim they might commit, statutory or otherwise, that's another story for another post.
[bold is mine. italics in original.]
Beatings will continue until morale improves / Nickel and a Coke machine
Let's imagine you have a Coke machine that throws out Cokes when you throw out nickels in it. So, it appears it works and you use it that way.
While doing it some shithead comes along and says "Hey, that is morally wrong ! You shouldn't do that ! You should throw rocks in a Coke machine, but know that you're not entitled to any Coke and that machines have their needs too yaddayaddayadda..."
Would you listen to him, telling you to put something that will give you no Cokes in a Coke machine, while he's basically acknowledging there is a likely possibility that you won't get any cokes?
The point of this metaphor is - SJW shitheads criticize me for coercing women into sex, impregnating a mentally ill woman, doing some other thing I can't talk about etc. but what choice did I have? To treat them with respect and get nothing? Any humane treatment of women only brought upon them despising me. Coercing one woman into sex gave me my best female friend today, using an insane woman for sex enabled me to procreate. Had I had treated them like the cucked mainstream society told me I'd achieve none of that.
I know some of the crazier liberals will find this metaphor with machines insulting to women or whatever deranged bs these mental patients will think of, but they'd say the same if I used a metaphor about chickens giving eggs or something so it's irrelevant - intelligent people will understand.
Scumbags like Amanda Marcotte are manipulating the natural male desire to cherish and protect women when they attack groups like PUAs by saying crazy shit like "Can you imagine what these men would get if they only treated women well?"
And sadly it works for so many men on a primal level.
But once you can overcome that you'll know what you'd get - nothing at all. Nothing but derision and hatred.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, a modern Western man can get by treating modern Western women like some ladies that lived 100 years ago. They are skanks, they are shit and they want to be treated like shit. If you fail to do so will you will be written off extremely quickly and brutally. They are skanks, they are scum, they are just human feces. They cheated on their "boyfriends" with me, their "boyfriends" cheated on them, they can't stand to be impregnated with a man who'd actually take care of the kids, they are verminous whores.
Feminists even have a term for this - http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Feminist_cookie
The insanity of this position is well explained here
https://omegavirginrevolt.wordpress.com/2015/01/31/the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/
I have noticed the same phenomena from feminists. Like the white vagina worshiping nationalists, feminists offer nothing as well. For most men, embracing feminism will not improve his life. It will make it much worse. In fact, feminists have created a phrase for this, “Do you want a cookie?” Yes, I want a cookie. I want lots of cookies. If feminists want men to become feminists, then feminism must produce real tangible improvements in men’ lives. In other words, feminists need to start handing out cookies. Since feminists refuse to hand out cookies, men have no reason to become feminists and every reason to oppose feminism with every fiber of their being.
So much truth in this post. Treating modern Western women as anything but vermin achieved no results for me but pain. Treating them as human garbage they are achieved all the results these monsters are even able to provide.
Why, exactly, should I put stones in a Coke machine and listen to how the machine owes me nothing?
This is the brief story of my second gf and her silly, irrational actions. Bear in mind, she is likely my best female friend today.
1.I meet her on a dating site. She just broke up with her boyfriend. I'm still a virgin at the time and she's very uninterested in meeting, wasting our time in fruitless bs talks about nothing.
2.I lose my virginity with some slut and tell this to her. She
a) immediately goes back to her ex AND b)immediately wants a meeting with me
3.We meet and she wants me, not her bf
4.She breaks up with her bf and says she wants to be with me
5.She meets me the second time after this. But now I'm no longer interesting to her. Now she blocks me on Fb.
6.She wants to get back to her "bf", he doesn't want her back.
7.Three months pass. She contacts me again, asking me to solve some fucking problem of hers. I decline and block her on Facebook. She then sends me an SMS, offering sex.
8.She tries to torture me by making up excuses to "give up" on sex and then offering it again ( she later, when we were already in a relationship, admitted these were all fake "changes of mind").
9.I finally snap and post her pic on my blog. She then finally agrees to really have sex with me - under the condition that I no longer contact her.
10.We have sex and I no longer contact her. But she contacts me. (EDIT - some of the insaner manginas online used to claim she did so because she was afraid I'd "blackmail" her again. However, that's just insanity by manginas, since when we stopped contacting I had no more pics of her. When she contacted me again I was BACK ON HER FRIEND LIST AND COULD SEE ALL HER PICS AGAIN). So we start a relationship.
11.Our relationship is a joke and she is a crazy woman.
12.We finally, after about a month and a half, see it's not working and break it off.
13.She briefly goes back to her previous "bf" who fucks her once but then dumps him as well.
14.After some months of me doing other stuff we get back in contact and are friends now. She's a lesbian now. She destroys her relationship with some woman.
Still, in summer of 2014 she start dating one of my best friends but dumps him after a week or two, before they even had sex, because she now finally decided to be a full lesbian.
15.In early 2015 she has such a fight with her schizophrenic mother that she has to come to my place, which I don't want to allow her without fucking me. She does and is angry about it for some time, making a fuss over nothing, but eventually we go on being friends like nothing happened. After all, by that time connections are too strong and we share even some financial interests, along with co-operation in various areas. We depend on each other too much in any case. This helps mend any conflicts but the fact is also that we're by now used to each other and share some common traits - it's not like hate each other but have to tolerate each other. I like her as a person and we share a history.
Lessons:
modern Western women are completely insane. It's a waste of time to try and find logic in the actions. What they do is often as random as throwing a dice. So don't expect anything, especially anything good.
actual full lesbians don't exist
women in general base their appreciation of a man on how successful he is in attracting other women - how this is achieved and his objective qualities are irrelevant. You can be a smelly rapist with an IQ of 70, she will like you more than a virgin with an IQ of 170.
consent is a nonsensical concept in modern society. It's a word that is used to protect female chastity and husband's property, not ignoring the whims of some slut. Modern Western women will hate you if you think about consent. You need to show you have a spine and fuck them regardless of their stupid whims, or they won't respect you.
Relationships in the modern Western world are a joke. Your "gf's" or "wife's" pussy is everybody else's as well as "yours" - and laws are made that way too. There is basically nothing a husband or a boyfriend can do about a cheating wife and pathetic cucks will always protect these sluts. So have no qualms about fucking other men's wives or girlfriends in the West - if you won't somebody else will. Besides, the guy they claim to be with is doing the same to other men's "gf's" and "wives". Expect absolutely no fidelity of any "gf" you will have in a feminist culture - it's like expecting a cat to not eat that steak when you leave the cat with it in a room to go grocery shopping. Fidelity is achieved in a sane patriarchal culture by marrying women off as virgins, making being a slut an undesirable trait and not allowing any feminist laws. In the Western culture your "gf's" or "wives" pussy is E-V-E-R-Y-B-O-D-Y'S and she is not fit to be a caring wife and a mother. You will be raising some retard's children, not your own.
benjamin2k is being naive. Western sluts want and need rape.
This is widely known by anybody who isn't a brainwashed mangina. It's known even among various disparate groups that don't quite like each other, like Red Pillers and conservative Jews/Muslims.
Modern Western women aside from few exceptions like Amish or Hasidic Jews, are disgusting braindead sluts and slugs who enjoy violent men and being raped. The idea that you can enter a relationship with them is insane. They'd kill the child of any man who'd want to take care of it. This is simply because women want to breed with men who make most kids, and such men are stupid, worthless criminals today. So you have this kind of a dissociation where a criminal will make a child and the state/beta cuck will take care of it. The same person can't be a father and take care of a child in advanced feminism.
And remember - if she stays alive a guy won't.
And liberals are a-ok with rape, as long as it is done by the groups they find immune to any criticism, like blacks.
Four common types of hilarious fallacies liberal lunatics use to attack me
Posted on October 11, 2015 by caamib
Insane accusations against me, especially those made by immensely stubborn and mentally challenged haters, amount to roughly four things
1. Insane lies that have nothing to do with reality, like that I wanted the government to force women into sleeping when men with my former program was basically a dating service where everybody had the right to refuse everybody and this was plainly written (even by feminists). Or a lie I don’t believe mental illnesses exist or that I don’t believe in psychiatry at all. In fact, those acting like they don’t are the myriad of liberal lunatics who want to diagnose online despite them not being doctors and this, um, not being possible online in any case, something any shrink would tell them. Ironically, these tools also claim therapy is a solution to any problem).
2.Claims I still have some problem because posts from said I did years ago. Like “He has penile insesitivity!” Umm, yeah, I had some when I just started having sex, jesus. Time goes by. Things change.
3. Claims that I am bad for having common sense ideas on things like consent. Ummm, you’re the bad ones here, willing to traumatize consenting kids with cops, lawyers and other vermin, while still believing you’re helping the poor child you’re traumatizing with your hostility towards sexuality of absolutely anybody but retarded sluts and sacred liberal groups like Muslims or blacks. Of course, a black or a Muslim raping a 2 month year-old is A-ok but a white guy sleeping with a willing 17 year-old girl is a criminal. Another example of this would be me considered bad for refusing to acknowledge that awful feminist trap of standing up for “victims of female-on-male rape”, when something like that can’t exist due to basic biology, namely sex being a female resource. Nonsense like the belief that women can rape men can only be created by over-socialization and indoctrination. It doesn’t exist in nature.
4. Interpretation of events that actually happened in light of liberal lunacy. A most common example of this is the claim I raped some women in 2012-2013 thought this never happened. In the first case it is a woman whose pic I posted on this blog in 2012 and who offered to have sex with me to take it down. Another is a woman who I told that I’ll call her in her home if she doesn’t have sex with me. This woman accepted only after asking to be given things. None of this is rape in my country or any country in the world. It is rape only in the demented minds of feminists, which would also mean some demented US/Canadian colleges or a portion of insane feminist prosecutors/judges. Nowhere else. One of these girls is laughing at my accusers, calling them mentally ill and calling me “her rapist” from time to time to mock these freaks. Insanity of this claim is even greater when we know women love to be beaten and raped and hate respect and consent. In patriarchy women want kisses. In feminism women want bullets.
Hilarious. But so are the liberals. Mental patients wanting to put sane people in hospitals.
(in response to the Indian government ordering Internet service providers to block access to 857 pornography websites that had been singled out by an anti-pornography activist)
I congratulate the Indian government on this move. There is nothing worse for men than porn and masturbation. If I could, I'd break the fingers of any decent men I see caught masturbating.
Why? Because your penis is a weapon. It must ejaculate in a woman. Jacking off is much more harmful than most drugs, as it destroys penile sensitivity and is aiming to make a zombie out of you.
No wonder the libtards here are so angry at this - they want zombiefied man masturbating while thugs with brains of orangutans and no inhibitions go around raping women. This libtards have no problem with. They have problem with decent men fulfilling their natural urges.
As I often claim, the entire mainstream modern Western society is a mixture of dogma, insanity and lies.
For example, I am often told that we incels only see women as fuckmeat. And in a sense I can understand those saying it, since it is important to remember that these monsters have no sense of what any relationship is – pumping and dumping is all their parents and friends knew. So it comes of little surprise that they are like this as well – they have no other concepts to even comprehend. When they hear about male-female relationships they hear sex, for nothing else exists to them. It is important to remember that.
Because seeing women as fuckmeat is exactly how thugs, the sacred group worshiped by women, sees them. A thug breeds a woman and then can’t stand her anymore so he goes on to breed the next woman – an optimal behavior in a feral, sick world where relationships are a concept as foreign as halberds or Aztec rituals.
If what these crazies were saying was true about incels they wouldn’t be incels !
So what is the truth?
Incels are often (but not always, there are also completely declined, modernist incels) those who make the mistake of offering women humane treatment, relationship and such things. Things that modern women no longer understand and are thus hated. It is like trying to put a wild animal in a cage. It won’t like the cage nor you. And liberalism is supporting this. Its telling incels that it is wrong to treat women like cattle and that it is good to treat women like they deserve respect. So what happens? Incels do so, fail and then get blamed and told they actually acted like they see women as cattle. But they didn’t! They acted just the way you told them – they treated women like entities worthy of respect. Had they treated them like cattle they’d be successful.
And onwards goes this crazy lie, repacked and sold over and over again, sadly to usually the same naive idiots.
It’s the same with another modernist myth, the idea that modern women don’t like rape.
The only “rapists” sent to prison are falsely accused men who women want to get rid of because they’re not immoral and stupid enough. That is a crime today, not rape. In fact, if you don’t actually rape your chances of being accused of rape are much, much higher.
Honestly, if you’re not able to recognize it by now maybe it is better that you don’t reproduce. I’d just recommend also not working so you don’t make even more men incel, but I fear even that is beyond the comprehension skills of such morons.
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What women really want from a husband is commitment. This is what they need to feel comfortable having children with the husband and raising a family. She wants commitment to be assured that the husband will always be there to support the family, especially when the wife is pregnant or with infants which put her in a weak position. So why are women so upset by male extramarital sex? Because modern women have been brainwashed to believe that male extramarital sex is an indication of lack of commitment. Historically you cannot find any instance of women complaining about casual extramarital sex by husbands before Paul started complaining about this in the New Testament. Of course women were jealous of mistresses throughout history, and this make sense since this is a real threat to her husband's commitment to her. It was Paul who introduced this terrible concept of male sexual fidelity to human culture. And even today, it is the degree of influence of Paul-based Christian culture on a society that determines the level of women's jealousy about male extramarital sex. Feminism is an extension of this culture and takes it to new extremes.
My parents did two mistakes-
A more obvious one is that they never did anything to help me with a phobia that made me unable to meet girls in the romantic context IRL until I was 18. This was something that can't be forgiven. It was obvious I can't and they did nothing.
In the long run, more importantly but something I can less blame them for - they never taught me to rape and maim women. But that I can understand more since this wasn't needed when they got married and became needed in my county only at the turn of a century in case of men who can't use seduction.
A modern woman is an insane sexual receptacle. She cannot understand the idea of any relationship. She just wants to be fucked and tossed and will hate anybody who fails to do so.
A non-seductive man who doesn't break a woman's legs, spine and teeth is immediately seen as a loser.
Probably the most dangerous kind of propaganda for any incel male, or just basically any male who hasn’t seen reality yet, are the incessant hysterical last gasps of the establishment to demonize rape.
Now, to anybody who actually bothered to open his eyes and reject indoctrination these attempts as just hilarious, about as hilarious as a potential scenario of the media trying to make us believe we’re all ducks. It is obvious women like men who don’t care about consent.
However, aside from obvious hilarious aspect of this the effect of this on men who have not yet seen reality is horrible.
Anti-rape propaganda is selling gullible, indoctrinated young men a fantasy that they will get women if they just treat them humanely or if they learn how to seduce better. The first claim is obvious nonsense and the other one even worse, since it makes them apply extreme effort for skills that you pretty much either have or don’t. It’s as if a 5ft2 woman wanted to be 6ft tall. It won’t work. On the other hand, dumb football players and thugs rape and are successful in terms of reproduction and thus respected by women.
Teaching a dogma that rape is something women hate, which was last applicable in the West decades ago, makes young men here miss chances with women and wonder why they can’t be successful.
It is all really, really dangerous.
If I were to not oppose a reader of mine raping a woman this would be (and by now is) not for any reasons of punishing women, since they won’t feel punished. It would be merely to try to ensure that he has a fighting chance of breeding with a woman.
[previous poster]"So if I'm hearing you right, if a woman tried to leave you, you would try to harm her so that she wouldn't. If she still managed to leave you after that you would try to make her suffer a fate worse than death?"
You're not hearing me right. I'd make sure she's destroyed the moment she tries to leave me. Before we'd even start dating I'd make her do a porn with a horse or a dog, I'd have all her credit card numbers, I'd know all about her tiniest details.
It sucks, but no other way to keep a modern woman. However, that's just another hypothetical scenario. They're not capable for relationships anyway.
We could also say that men are simple biological machines as well, as they would fuck basically anything if allowed.
That’s why we need extremely strict rules and harsh punishments for both genders when it comes to things like adultery. A man who commits adultery with another man’s wife must know he will, if discovered, die.
Also, you’re once again incredibly naive. If you support women’s suffrage you can’t support female premarital chastity. I mean, you can, but that’s insane, as it makes no sense and is contradictory.
A woman's suffrage is a feminist policy and means that women will vote themselves priviledges that will enable them to be sluts.
It’s like saying you support democracy but won’t support something the demos votes for – not possible.
Your ideas are like saying “I support billions being thrown into war machine but I oppose war.”
C’mon.
I am not an MRA because MRAs are manginas. We men could take down this system and bring back sanity by the end of the day. Women would not be able to stop us, since they lack our physical strength or access to weapons. Then we could make feminists and sluts into prostitutes, kill off all omega scumbag players and make a sane society with decent men and women. MRAs don't stand for that and erroneously believe that women are the problem when just looking at MRAs shows it is men who are the problem.
I have and I still believe I'd have sex with a woman against her consent. The difference now is that when I wrote that I thought that rape is forceful sex against a woman's consent. I was wrong, since I didn't know enough history and was brainwashed my feminist propaganda. Rape is a crime against women's owner or her chastity and consent is irrelevant for women. In fact, should you expect it you're bound to be seen as a complete loser by a woman. All that anti-rape propaganda is actually aimed to keep dumbasses who believe women even want to consent away from getting any sex whatsoever.
So while I'd still forcibly have a sex with a woman I'd never rape, since I wouldn't have forcible sex with a woman who is somebody's property or chaste.
This summer I had been spending a warm August evening talking to a friend in his backyard. We had a few beers and were discussing different issues and common acquaintances. He knows about my problem and this blog but doesn’t follow it that regularly.
During this year we had less contact than previous years due to various circumstances so he wasn’t aware of the shift in my thinking I experienced this year.
Anyway, we somehow got to these topics and I told him what I think the actual reasons for my incel are and what I plan to do about this. I told him about what society really is, how women actually are and how I think I might attract a woman and for which activities (which, sadly, don’t include a relationship, since they’re not capable of understanding the concept).
As I was telling him the horrible truth about why incel happens and what women want he kept getting paler and paler, looking at me with terrified eyes. By the time I finished telling him about what disgusting men and sickening acts women today want and with which barbaric actions I plan to attract one, he froze and, despite being a healthy man in his 20s who was in no way drunk that evening nor acutely or chronically ill, literally threw up.