[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible]
Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?
while the earth was young it was covered with water. the flood happened while the earth was young. my source was the discovery channel. and everybody knows thats what scientists think anyways. thats why there are so many expaditions to go look for lost ships of the flood and stuff like that."
"yes i do admit that the colarado river does do erosion to the canyon but i and many others believe that the river couldnt have eroded that much i 6,000 years. and the canyon is very high. the river was not that deep at one time to have washed out the top and bottom of the canyon. it would have only eroded the bottom."
"whatever. continental drift. its hard to believe thats how all these fossils of things that were way at the bottom of the ocean have been found up there. but believe what you want. i dont care.
What do people think about this? As most know there is this lady in Nigeria who has been ordered to be stoned to death for having a child out of wedlock. This has caused a significant outburst from western nations worldwide arguing the ruling is inhumane, uncivilised and breaches basic human rights. Although I find decision to be somewhat "harsh" this lady bought about her own judgement. In Northern Nigeria where the sha'riah is the law, it is a well known offence to commit adultery and although the stoning will be the first time it's practised in the region the Qu'ran makes it clear it is a capital offence. So although she knew her actions might lead to her death she took the risk anyway and now under shar'iah law she is going to be punished for it. I respect the human rights groups but I really don't think they understand religion at all and are only preventing justice before Allah or God taking place. From a Christian perspective I don't necessarily think it's wrong as well. When Jesus was preaching some Jews bought him a woman guilty of adultery and asked if the men condemned her. She said no so Jesus didn't condemn her neither. However, the men in Nigeria do condemn her so it seems likely she is worthy of her death. If you ask me, I think Jesus would urge compassion towards the lady and she shouldn't be stoned to death however establishing a worldwide crusade to prevent this stoning she bought upon herself shows a lack of respect for religion.
the bible says that noah took every type of animal not species...he did not take every species of dog...just 2 dogs, he did not take every species of horse, just 2 horses etc....still thats alot of animals right? the ark was huge...if u were to build it it would be like really really really big. as for evolution...the big bang can be proven wrong using 4th graders a high school football team and a merry-go-round. sad eh? there are no flaws in the bible what soever...it was written by many men over thousands of years but yet there is not one contradiction. theres is not a more perfect collage of books in the universe.
as for you kuuenbu...go study
The only problem with the Bible being stories and myth or whatnot is that it would be very unique. I mean, all of it's major players ahve huge falws with them. Look at David. Great guy, man after God's own heart. Adulturer and murderer. He's not the perfect heroe like heroes should be. The Bible is all too true in its depiction of men.
Noah lived to be 950 (Genesis 9:29). And Methusela lived into his 900's also. Read your Bible. Before the flood men use to live very very long times. After the flood the death age got younger and younger. Again you have no idea how long people lived back then because you believe man and not God, your creator.
I don't mean to sound offensive, but whoever started this argment about Noah's ark did not do much research.
Otherwise you would realize that durng orld ar II, the United States build a ship according to the measurement of Noah's ark and it was one bad baby. No one wanted to meswith that joker.
Now a far as species go, I don;t know how many species they say there are today. Maybe they do say 6 million or 30 million. I can tell you that the apportionment of the number of species has been determined by Evolutionary THEORY and is thus not a provable fact. There way of defining species does not have to be ds way of definig species. I can tell you this as well, because of evolutionary THEORY the nuber of species has increased. Why because we have for it to do so. Of course not, but rather it fits well into the model of evolution.
findit aazing hw ou accus Christians of gong close-mided and on a set worldview whn youyourself do exactly the same.
They are called the 10 Commandments. Check them out. What good is morality if it's only based on your own reason? That sounds pretty arbitrary to me.
Because I know what the scientific "evidence" is but I just don't buy it. I believe that if evolution were true and we descended from apes, that is Man came from apes because we evolved from a lower into a higher being, then apes would have slowely died out. And why did all humans evolve in the exact same way? How did all the organs evolve and still work? You see all of the organs are needed to sustain life and if we came from one molecule, that one molecule needed the entire package in order to live. But to me science dosen't prove that molecules could have done that. Why isn't there half ape half man? Why don't some have wings? We could use wings, that would get us places faster and if evolution is true then maybe we would have evolved into that. I know that all seems corny and stupid to you, but its the little questions like that that just make evolution so unbelievable. Hey I didn't inherit Christianity and that was it. I looked at both choices and decided that A created world is much more feasable. That's just what I believe given the evidence. Evolution severly violates the law of non-contradiction. Which makes it an impossibility.
It shouldn't be a huge deal that people believe otherwise but scientists have a hardcore agenda and does not tolerate creationists. Which is silly and wrong, and to me hurts their case even further.
the bible should be the way to check the accuracy of archaeology, not the other way around.
[On the Shroud of Turin]
From what I watched on the tv show and what the Bible say, Jesus was raped in it for 3 days and then He rose from the dead.
Evolution uses just as much circular reasoning as to the fact that it cannot be reproduced in a lab. The whole concept of evolution is speculation therefore just going around telling everybody its true because scientists say its true is circular reasoning.
Hell is real... hell is fire. That's where the unsaved go. The universalists believe since it is Gods will for all to go to heaven ALL will go to heaven. They believe hell is on earth and when you're saved you're actually saved from sin and not hell. Universalists are unscriptual and a cult. Stay away from them!
But I watched a show on TBN the other night, and now I know nothing is going to cause me to not believe God is real.
Sorry, but I'm sick of wanna-be historians, and scientist trying to put us Christians in our place.
I dunno. I am kind of artsy and I like the [flashy, hard-to-read HTML] back grounds... besides, I never really expect people to read the text anyways, so if I have a cool bgk, then they will just it looked cool and be done
Absolutely brilliant! Resort to the teachings of a Bahai [<a href="http://www.bahai.org/">another religion</a>]. Doesn't truth mean anything to you or are you just justify your sinful lifestyle. Well I tell ya, your going to get a big fucking surprise when your burning in hell. You wont be asking Dave [the Bahá'í poster] any more questions then will ya?
Satan is lying to you. Why is it hard for you to see that God is real and He loves you?
I don't think someone understands justice or basic Christian doctrine. There are many worse things in life than Harelquin Fetus syndrome." [Warning: click that last link at the risk of your sanity...]
Why God allows bad things to happen to good people.
This is the question that an unbelieveing world simply finds unbelevable. And I am not going to even pretend to know how God works, or why bad things happen.
But if you have "Still Paying Dues", The new P.O.D. DVD then you will have heard Sonny tell why his mom had to die of cancer. He says it took that much of a megaphone for Sonny to come to Christ. In other words, God wasen't getting through to Sonny so he used the death of Sonny's mom, whose dying wish was that Sonny come to Christ, to grab Sonny by the hand and lead him into the kingdom of God. Yep, God will go to those measures to get ahold of one person. And now because of that Sonny and his mom will be together in heaven.
I felt so much encouragement and joy from hearing that story and I realized that sometimes we are so closed to God's word that it takes tragedy to bring about change.
Well either the Christian God exists or God don't exist.
I have proff. A while back on a Moday, I started feeling like I was getting the flu. So, I just said, "No, I'm not getting sick. God heal me of this in Jesus name." And not 10 mins later, the symtoms were gone.
I watched Hell-Raiser 2 last night and well... hell looks BAD. Trust me... you don't want to go there for ETERNITY.
Maybe you should also let the scientists sort out the shenanigans... any theory they spout is exactly that... a theory... not truth, so sit back and wait 20 years til it's official.
i didnt read the article cause i dont have time. i have to leave in a bit but i saw the subject and i just want to point out a couple things.
1. scientists are even saying that there was most likely like 99% a worldwide flood.
2. wood (the same kind Noah used) has been found at the top of mount Arat(where the Bible says the ark landed). The bible said that the ark was above every mountain so thats how it got to the top in case your wondering.
3. explain the grand canyon
4. there have been fossils of fishes on the top of mountains. explain how they got there other than this.
5. there are many ancient documents on stone tabs that are almost exactly like the flood story. many point out that only one mans family survived.
If I were a Muslim then my will would be to do Allah's will. If that means slaying thousands of Christians in Jihad then I'd probably do it.
[After a person complains 6 guys beat him up]
i felt sorry for you till you said you were gay. try reading the bible."
you see, as much as you want to believe that science is a great revelation and we have advanced so far, The Bible is far more accurate. I don't care how tall your "mounds" of evidence are. God's word supercedes any kind of scientists. You don't know how things worked before the flood. That oxygen thing is true, but before the flood our bodies didn't work that way. I'm going to have to use the God's soverignty arguement on this one....and oh how you hate that one so.
But even you should be able to understand that at the time people lived that long, there was no cancer, there was no polution, no cfc's, no unnatural foods, etc..
The reason is because there was so few people and technology couldn't create polution.
Well, anyway if you believe the Bible you would know that sin created bad genetics and bad health. Ever since the fall of man we have been slowely dying.
This is an uneducated statement because I've heard nothing but contradictions of evolution from evolutionists and creationists. The fact that there is still apes is one of millions.
People say it's okay to be a Wiccan, Buddhist, Muslim or whatever but it must be made clear God hates these false religions (if they are in fact false) and He'd like to see them eradicated. Homosexuality is the killer. Priests, pastors, politicians etc are decieving God's little children into thing it's okay to be gay. The world has come to largely accept homosexuals in this world and the gay movement is stronger than ever... God hates it all. People think female pastors are a welcome but God says they're not (debatable). Many don't believe in capital punishment even though God created it. Pacifists and anti-war (defence) Christians are just confused. Is there a passage in the Bible that says we're to conform to social beliefs or don't people give a shit about the truth? Why so weak?
Why does athiesm suck? There is no evidence. NONE. And if there was nothing, and there was a big bang, then what exactly was it that banged together? Yea.........
they only reason they dont belive the bible is God inspired is cause they not belivers
Aawww yes....let's just "imagine" life without heaven or hell, God or the devil....it's easy if you try.
John Lennon was blinded by supposed "humanitarian love" Alot of atheists claim that humanitarinism is a great alternative. But if there is no God then who cares about being kind to humanity. It won't matter. We all fade to nothing, and we die. So who in the heck do I have to answer to. I can do whatever I want without fear of punishment. Hitler was ok..whose to say he was wrong.....if there is no God, there is no wrong. Sure, murder, stealing, fornication, homosexuality...anything goes without God. Don't try to tell me that somehow "weather it hurts someone or not" is how we find right and wrong. I'm telling you without God no one is going to stop anyone from all out murder and mayhem. If you think there is no God then "imagine" God just turning his back on the world for 5 seconds. I'll bet that death would come almost instantly.
[On Crossing Over with John Edward, a TV show where the guy allegedly talks with dead people using cold reading]
i think that is that most stupid show ever - the guys just communicating with demonic spirits who tell him stuff about the family
It is possible that creation is almost 6,000 years. In the Jewish calender it is almost that number. Not to insult science but there is actually no proof that the earth is millions of years old.
Well, on a personal standpoint and being a Christian the only literature I need to read to understand there is proof that Jesus existed and that He had a brother named James is the bible. I dont care what the scientist have to say, I dont care what the LA times has to say..or any person out there. I have my proof and that is why I believe.
is that why people see visions of hell. or possesions. or that scientists have discovered a place in the center of the earth that is a perfect condition for hell(which is where many christians believe it to be). read the book by mary k. baxter "a divine revelation of hell"---ull see what im talking about.. in the 1970s for 40 nights she was given a guided tour of hell and was told to write a book about it.(dont argue back before you read it)---also talk to someone who has seen visions of it.
I have had more success converting drunks [to Christianity] than otherwise. They are free of their mind and are open and willing to free their mind.
And yes, they still have the beleifs today.
without God, we have no way to judge hitler's efforts aside from their ultimate failure.
Revrand [another poster] is Satan's servant and he is under the power of Satan. I don't care WHAT anyone thinks of me, but I know that this person is under control of demons. He needs to repent and surrender his life to JEsus Christ and the one true God. As I was reading this forum, i just started crying because I can't believe my generation. It just digusts me that satan is deceiving so many people into beleiveing his lies. We Christians need to stand up to this oppresion under the power of Jesus Christ and resist. We have power over the enemy and satan and his followers are already crushed under the Almighty God. We need to stand up against this now and expose the truth of our God to this country.
Atheists are hypocrits because in all reality they are the most closed-minded people in the human race.
And my faith is brought upon that circulat logic, and if you are INTERPRETING the bible, then you must have a something that backs itself up. It does that.
If you an atheist that disagrees witht eh bible, then yes you are right, and yes, it shows you have no faith, but for the people who do have faith,it varifies what is right and what is wrong.
I am constantly being attacked with depression,
anger and lust and even family problems along with money issues.
I am very happy for that cause it tells me that I am a threat to
satan
I dont think music in itself is evil (like the early church monks used to think there where evil intervals like the tritone) but what is done with the music and the various bad messages (kill yourself, worship evil, womanize, etc...) it can contain. For instance before I came to really know Christ I listened to a lot of music that I dont listen to know, for example Nine Inch Nails. Im a huge fan of electronic music and I think Trent Reznor is a real genious. Unfortunately I just cant listen to his music anymore, because of songs like "Heresy" which goes, " God is dead and no one cares, if there is a hell i'll see you there". It brings me down.
[On a topic discussing whether nudity is immoral]
no nudity is not immoral. It is quite normal and dignifying for a man to show his penis outside while strolling to buy milk. Or a woman to show off her boobs while working, it would make every fellow employee especially the males one to feel excited to go to work. That can either be the worse question ever asked or your probably desensitized from watching porn.
I know that it is getting close to Halloween so you see ghosts every wear in the stores. That makes me wonder. What are ghosts? They have been documented and scientificaly researched. Evan the most sane people see hauntings. I've taken a tour of an actual huanted house (The Whaley House, San Diego, CA) I know that when you die you go to Judgment Day and so on and so forth. Are these realy spirits of the departed. I was an amateur paranormal investigator and I have seen some pretty wierd stuff. I just want to know what it is. Is it a demon? It could be but demons are monopreasant. Multiple ghosts can be seen. Is there some cross between Heaven and Hell when spirits srill walk the Earth.
[On clinical depression]
While what you are experiencing may simply be demonic attack exacerbated by isolation from a community, it may also be a physiochemical imbalance needing a medical doctor's intervention. Please do look into both courses of action.
Until there is something actually wrong with circular logic, I will take this as a complement.
can't blame you for wanting God to accept you on your own terms. we all tend to strive to make God in our own image.