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discombobulated #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[In response to allegations of people altering the Bible]

Theres no doubt in my mind that God would not let his word be altered in any way he did not want it to be. If Sodam and Gomorah were struck dead just 4 lying, then why can't some monk be struck dead?

Plutoboy #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I don't think it [hell] is in the center of the Earth but it is odd how geologists say that the middle of the eart is molton rock with other minerals such as sulfer or "Brimestone" when at the time the Bible was written they did not know that.

Wegs #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Ok Leon, I don't get it. A defendant is innocent until proven guilty, not guilty until proven innocent. So God exists until He is proven not to exist. Making Sense....... You just contradicted yourself with your own example. Poorly put.

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

What do people think about this? As most know there is this lady in Nigeria who has been ordered to be stoned to death for having a child out of wedlock. This has caused a significant outburst from western nations worldwide arguing the ruling is inhumane, uncivilised and breaches basic human rights. Although I find decision to be somewhat "harsh" this lady bought about her own judgement. In Northern Nigeria where the sha'riah is the law, it is a well known offence to commit adultery and although the stoning will be the first time it's practised in the region the Qu'ran makes it clear it is a capital offence. So although she knew her actions might lead to her death she took the risk anyway and now under shar'iah law she is going to be punished for it. I respect the human rights groups but I really don't think they understand religion at all and are only preventing justice before Allah or God taking place. From a Christian perspective I don't necessarily think it's wrong as well. When Jesus was preaching some Jews bought him a woman guilty of adultery and asked if the men condemned her. She said no so Jesus didn't condemn her neither. However, the men in Nigeria do condemn her so it seems likely she is worthy of her death. If you ask me, I think Jesus would urge compassion towards the lady and she shouldn't be stoned to death however establishing a worldwide crusade to prevent this stoning she bought upon herself shows a lack of respect for religion.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

while the earth was young it was covered with water. the flood happened while the earth was young. my source was the discovery channel. and everybody knows thats what scientists think anyways. thats why there are so many expaditions to go look for lost ships of the flood and stuff like that."

"yes i do admit that the colarado river does do erosion to the canyon but i and many others believe that the river couldnt have eroded that much i 6,000 years. and the canyon is very high. the river was not that deep at one time to have washed out the top and bottom of the canyon. it would have only eroded the bottom."

"whatever. continental drift. its hard to believe thats how all these fossils of things that were way at the bottom of the ocean have been found up there. but believe what you want. i dont care.

caddylier #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

This made me ask about how the bones [of dinosaur fossils?] got to be so large. Well, in biblical times people lived a whole lot longer than they do now (Methuselah, Noah). Well, in an ideal environment can live for up to 200 years and they never stop growing, this is more that enough time for them to become gargantuan accounting for the size of some of the fossils.

Fredbear #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

I don't believe ghost's are from a person..........but are a result of the actions of that person when they were alive..... The more evil an action was demonic spirits would be present....they sit around laughing at the person doing the act...imagine them sitting there watching as a human hacks a body into pieces.. The demons sit there and say to themselves...look at the stupid humans doing our masters work.. When stuff like this happens this delights the stupid demons and they like that area..

Livin'4Christ #fundie #homophobia #sexist bbs.payableondeath.com

People say it's okay to be a Wiccan, Buddhist, Muslim or whatever but it must be made clear God hates these false religions (if they are in fact false) and He'd like to see them eradicated. Homosexuality is the killer. Priests, pastors, politicians etc are decieving God's little children into thing it's okay to be gay. The world has come to largely accept homosexuals in this world and the gay movement is stronger than ever... God hates it all. People think female pastors are a welcome but God says they're not (debatable). Many don't believe in capital punishment even though God created it. Pacifists and anti-war (defence) Christians are just confused. Is there a passage in the Bible that says we're to conform to social beliefs or don't people give a shit about the truth? Why so weak?

WarriorOfJah #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

what does the Bible say about pro wrestling like wwe other whys nown as wwf because my bro loves it beyond all possible human beleif and when i asked him which site is better , www.bible.com or www.wwe.com, it took him a while to answer so i thought that was a bit stupid. so what im asking is wwf against the bible and if u could give a link so my bro dont pull a hissy fit if it is thanx and this will solve a lot of problems thanx again

khazul #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The only problem with the Bible being stories and myth or whatnot is that it would be very unique. I mean, all of it's major players ahve huge falws with them. Look at David. Great guy, man after God's own heart. Adulturer and murderer. He's not the perfect heroe like heroes should be. The Bible is all too true in its depiction of men.

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

[To another poster who was arguing sex before marriage isn't wrong]You want a wife who has it open like a 7-11. Not only that you want everyone else to whore it up so you can feel better about yourself. And we wonder why divorce is up? You give std's a bad name!

EternalWarrior #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

This [the Big Bang theory] is the DUMBEST thing scientists have ever come up with. The whole idea that things combined together and bang, there was life. People, animals, planets, trees, grass, flowers. This is so retarted. And what was it that combined together and how was it made? It is just a dumb concept.

punkrocker71 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

i didnt read the article cause i dont have time. i have to leave in a bit but i saw the subject and i just want to point out a couple things.

1. scientists are even saying that there was most likely like 99% a worldwide flood.

2. wood (the same kind Noah used) has been found at the top of mount Arat(where the Bible says the ark landed). The bible said that the ark was above every mountain so thats how it got to the top in case your wondering.

3. explain the grand canyon

4. there have been fossils of fishes on the top of mountains. explain how they got there other than this.

5. there are many ancient documents on stone tabs that are almost exactly like the flood story. many point out that only one mans family survived.

Skarlet #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Honestly, I never really bought fully into the idea of ghosts. I do believe that there are supernatural forces at work on the Earth. That goes without question. But the idea of tormented souls walking the earth just kinda creeps me out and makes me think of people that have gone to hell being able to chill up here with us until the final judgement. I'm sorry, but I don't want to sit around drinkin coffee in the morning with Hitler sitting right beside me. I'm not saying that happens, but I'm just saying that's how I see it. I don't question that people's spirits are able to walk the earth because of the parable of Lazarus and the rich man. The rich man begged Abraham to allow Lazarus to present himself to his brothers on Earth, so apparently it is possible, but I don't buy into it. This is merely my opinion that most of what people call "ghosts" are frankly demons manipulating a weak person. I mean, my mother watches Crossing Over and it gives me the creeps because I know there's no way that it can be possible Biblically. Anyways, my 2 cents are in...

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

So many people have bought into the lie that conservatives are racist, homophobic, ignorant, backwoods, sexist morons. LIES all lies. We are the opposite and the left know it but use these lies for personal gain. You watch to much CNN!

hercules1 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

There is nothing scientific about evolution but a lot of high school and college textbooks attempt to indoctrinate young people into believing they are just the product of a "chance" occurrence and apes and humans came from a "common ancestor." No wonder young people all over this nation are killing each other left and right.

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The death penalty IS NOT MURDER. It is not killing for fun, it is not done in happiness or for even vengance, but it is a necessity, a device used so that peace can be achieved. It is an act of war the same as any other. It truly is an act of love towards society and a necessity to those who love peace. I believe that Jesus is for the death penalty, and expects punishment on those he loves.

hercules1 #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

How is it that God is cruel. who is it that does wrong, us or him. Suppose you mum said dont eat the cookie from the cookie jar. Would you do it, probably. So you go and do it and get punished [by being tortured in hell for eternity].

caddylier #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Why are there so many discussions about other religions (atheism, mormonism, etc) when everything boils down to one verse in the Bible I am The Way and The Truth and The Life and NO ONE comes to the Father EXCEPT through ME. -John 14:6. The Torah [Jewish name for the Old Testament] teaches that itself (the Torah) is The Way and The Truth and The Life when in all reality that isn't true. Jesus Christ is the only way.

Tarmac #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

If I abandon a Christian worldview, I see no plausible reason - other than purely selfish reasons - to be a Moral person. In fact, [and I know this will be contraversial] but I believe that many of these crimes are strictly due to a lack of the Christian worldview, although, paradoxically I find that many Christians [?] engage is such activities. If Christianity is proven false, do what you wanna do, as long as you come out alive and on top, Who cares... pure Hedonism is championed. Does that answer your question?

hayden #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Like I said we are not tied down by it [the Old Covenant (Levitical laws)], but If it was ok back then then it is ok now...We abide by the laws of our land. We don't kill gay people because it isn't in our law, we eat pork because it is ok in our law.

BurningSon #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

No, He used it to try and get our attention. If we don't turn back to Him, trouble will continue to come. Wouldn't you get upset with someone who didn't listen to you after you gave them so many warnings? Try having a whole country not listen to you and ignore you for a long time. You will try and get their attention.

nodmailoc #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Ok, after much debate with my mother I have come to the conclusion that I am wrong. Because in the Catholic Church you can still find the truth. Even though it is buried under a pile crap. As long as the truth is there I will concede that it is apart of Christianity.

asbesttes #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Uh , buddy why dont u read about hitler. Ill get the name of the murderer for u tomorrow and then youll be happy. What is a devout evolutionist A DEVOUT EVOLUTIONIST! what does devout mean ask urself. DEVOUT EVOLUTIONIST=Atheist Atheist= no god no god= no purpose theres some deductive reasoning for ya! And yes some creationist believe in evolution .. . ill argue against that if u want me to. Really why are u trying to deny this? What are u afraid of huh ....God? heheh

Dacrimoss #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Most of you atheists are full of crap with your "scientific research". Admit it, at least 99% of you simply go to an atheist website and copy & paste whatever you think will peeve off a Christian that is immature or misinformed about the faith. Grow up and stop wasting your time here. Bashing baby Christians DOES NOT make you intelligent. Furthermore, go do some REAL studies." "Christians (or prospective Christians), quit looking for theological answers on the internet. You have churches in your local area for a reason. If your church doesn't have the answers, then go to another one, you're at the wrong church." "Concerning evolution, it should not be confused for adaptation. Adaptation to the environment and other such factors is a reality for all species. God knew what He was doing when He created us all. Adaptation is certainly acceptable to Christian theology. Evolution and Christianity, on the other hand, are not compatible. Don't like it? Too bad. Get over it.

punkbassist4God #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Do you honestly think that you are the original in raising these questions? If the Bible could be proven false/and or/inaccurate, then Christianity wouldn't have survived 2000 years of persecution. People aren't willling to be burned alive and cut in half for lies. The only way that I see anyone could stand by their beliefs through all this because a loving God changed their lives through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ.

datgurl11 [TPF] #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

HEY YA"LL. IVE GOT SOMETHING TO SAY> IM GOING TO FUCKING HEAVEN. I KNOW IT> I SWEAR TO GOD ALMIGHTY BY MY LIFE IM GOING TO HEAVEN. YOU ABSOLUTELY CANNNNNNNNNNOOOOTTT CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE< I SWEAR. I SWEAR> I SWEAR> HOW CAN I GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEADS>.???????????? I FUCKING KNOW IT. ITS IN MY HEART. I KNNNOOOWWWWWWW IT. NO QUESTION WHATSOEVER> GOT IT>? THAT is HOW sTRONG IT IS> WHEN YOU KNOW, THEN YOU KNOW IT,. WELL GODAMN, WHEN YOU ALL ARE STILL WONDERING WHETHER OR NOT YOU SHOULD PICK BUDISM OVER CHRISTIANITY ILL BE SITTING NEXT TO JESUS> I SWEAR ONE DAY WHENEVER I DIE, JESUS IIS COMING TO LIFT ME UP IN GLORY AND HES SAVED ME< BY GOD HE SAVED ME> AND IM GOING TO LIVE WITH HIM FOR ETERNITY!!!!!!!!!!!!! I AM THHHHHAAAAATT SUUUURE. THERE IS NO QUESTION.

Jiggles #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

No, they just spouted some Athiest dogma, which has very little backing and were insulting. AKA, if you question myths, why don't you question your own? Again, I reiterate, what evidence is there that Atheism is correct or the truth? I would like to comment that for every time someone mentions the Spanish Inquisition, I will reply with Pol Pot, 2 million people, Stalin, millions of people, Mao Se-dong, millions of people.

punkbassist4God #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

The WTC Bombers MOTIVATION may have been Allah, but their cause was to kill Americans for the Taliban. They CHOSE death. Suicide in the name of Allah does not equal martrydom. Christians were KILLED by OTHERS for what they believe. There is a very big difference.

Livin'4Christ #fundie bbs.payableondeath.com

Hi folks, today I'm going to act as the devils advocate. Now, many people are aware God sends some people to hell. But why is that? Even worse, God uses some people and sends them to hell so He can achieve His objective. Lets take a look at a few examples. Lucifer - The devil, satan. This angel was made beautiful, yet God made Him evil on purpose so we could have free-will. Now this poor young fellow will burn in hell for all eternity through no fault of his own. That's unless he had free-will of course and decided to fight against God, but... I highly doubt it. Judas Iscariot - Jesus' friend and disciple. This young man hung himself and had his guts spilled out as punishment for doing Gods will. Most likely he is burning in hell for all eternity, again, through no fault of his own. The Jews - These people crucified Jesus and will most certainly burn in hell forever. Yet, if they had not done this then we'd have no chance of salvation. So God purposely blinded their eyes from the truth so He could achieve His objective. Why God? Why?

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