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“Jaime”, Francine Fosdick #fundie #conspiracy #homophobia #transphobia #PRATT friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Christian radio host Francine Fosdick, last seen on this site because a guest on her show falsely claimed the Red Cross was turning to human trafficking for blood donations, aired a prayer during her show that former First Lady Michelle Obama would be exposed as a man.

(She’s not even the first person this month to make that absurd suggestion.)

This prayer came courtesy of “Jaime,” a guest on the show.


“Father, I thank you for exposing all of the corrupt book deals, not only Obama’s, but Joe Biden’s, Michelle’s,” Jaime continued. “And speaking of Michelle, today ABC just had an article saying that she’s been named the most admired woman in the world for the second year in a row. Father, I am asking you that whatever plan they have to have Michelle or Hillary [Clinton] run for president, we call that cancelled in Jesus’ name. And I am asking you Father that the true identity of Michelle — Michael — would be exposed. Father, I am asking you that that whole family, that those children — they are not their children, they’re the children of Obama’s best friend — Father, we ask you that that whole lie would be exposed for the everyday person to see it, in Jesus’ name.”

Leave it to the worst kind of person to ask God to “expose” a complete lie. (Where Jaime got this information is anyone’s guess.)
Considering the Obamas are no longer even in the White House, this all seems rather overblown anyway. But since none of the doomsday predictions that conservative extremists made about the Obamas came true — no mass persecution of Christians, no round-ups for preaching — I guess they have to resort to this nonsense to avoid embarrassment. Even if we blow it off, there are people — somewhere — eating it up.

For what it’s worth, every display of faith made by Obama was far more genuine than what conservative Christians have seen from Donald Trump. And all that without hush money payments or a fervent desire to begin World War III to distract people from impeachment.

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David Fowler #fundie #homophobia friendlyatheist.patheos.com

This week, every single one of the 95 county clerks in the State of Tennessee received threatening letters accusing them of breaking the law and violating civil rights… all for doing their jobs by issuing marriage licenses to same-sex couples.


The letters in question came from David Fowler, a practicing lawyer who is deeply involved in efforts to challenge the 2015 Supreme Court decision that made same-sex marriage legal across the United States of America.

As general legal counsel for the Constitutional Government Defense Fund, an initiative run by Family Action Council of Tennessee (FACT), he was involved in the state’s earliest challenges the Obergefell ruling. Currently, he’s also partnering with Tennessee Independent Baptists for Religious Liberty (TIBRL) as they file a legal challenge against the Tennessee Department of Health, claiming ministers’ conscience rights are being violated when the government requires them to sign marriage certificates that “define marriage without regard to the sex of the two parties.”

That case appears to have inspired him to send the letters, which refer repeatedly to the TIBRL case, using dense, intimidating legal language to implicate county clerks in a violation of his clients’ civil rights:

The Department’s Certificate is inextricably tied to the marriage license issued by County Clerks that, according to Tenn. Code Ann. 36-3-103(a), is the legal document that actually authorizes my clients to solemnize the marriages they conduct by ceremony… However, the issuance of licenses by county clerks to persons other than a “male and female contracting party” as stated in Tenn. Code Ann. 36-3-103(a)(1) presents my clients with a grave civil rights issue of conscience under the Tennessee [Constitution], Article I, section 3, as well as a grave civil rights issue under the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution regarding the free exercise of religion and government-compelled speech.

Confused? That’s probably the goal.

In conversation with noted LGBTQ news outlet The Washington Blade, Fowler described his intentions:

The purpose of the letter was simply that which was stated, to call to the attention of our county clerks the constitutional fact that the provisions in our state constitution applicable to marriage licenses have not been enjoined by a court or repealed by vote of the people, meaning they have not been excused from complying with it and, because they are purely administrative officials, they have no judicial authority to interpret the U.S. Constitution or the Tennessee Constitution, or to interpret licensing statutes in light of the language in the two Constitutions and the Obergefell ruling. They are not judges.
Neither are all of us, but we have to follow the law, too.

In any case, Fowler is just admitting that he wants to make county clerks nervous that they might be falling afoul of the law if they continue to do their jobs as they’ve been instructed.

It’s true that, as it currently stands, the state’s Constitution defines marriage as existing only between one man and one woman and insists that any other understanding of marriage is “void and unenforceable.”

However, following the historic Obergefell v. Hodges decision on marriage equality, even the state’s attorney general, Herbert Slatery, acknowledged that Tennessee was legally obligated to abide by the Supreme Court’s decision — a fact that Fowler neglected to mention in his letters. It’s the same reason that some states have constitutional provisions blocking atheists from holding public office even though those laws are all unenforceable.

According to Chris Sanders, president of the Tennessee Equality Project, Fowler’s letters amount to little more than a bad-faith attempt to undermine settled law:

We are well aware that some continue to look for ways to deny and ignore the plain meaning of the Obergefell ruling and the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. Marriage equality is equal protection of the laws, and it is the law of the land.

It’s hard to avoid the impression that Fowler is playing with emotional manipulation here. He’s sent county clerks hefty packets with an important-looking letter full of hard-to-parse jargon, backed up by no less than five enclosures packed with legalese, and he’s playing on understandable fears of repercussions in the hope that maybe, somewhere in Tennessee, some LGBTQ couple will have a harder time getting a marriage license because of him.

Does he seriously believe this is what Jesus would have done? (Does it even matter to people like him?)

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Dave Daubenmire #racist friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Proving yet again that right-wing commentators who wrap themselves in religion have plenty of other problematic beliefs as well, Dave Daubenmire said on his “Pass The Salt Live” webcast yesterday that he went to the zoo with his daughter… and therefore he still opposes interracial marriage.

… You don’t see eagles marrying buzzards, do you? You don’t see it happening.

… It is unbelievable, right? And it doesn’t have any idea… with your dignity as a human being…. Somebody help me out here. Maybe, I don’t know, at the zoo last night, I don’t think I saw one Oriental married to a black guy. I don’t think… that may have been… you don’t see it… you don’t see it. You don’t see it…

… Randy, I was actually even thinking last night when I was looking in the aquarium. All the different fish that are swimming in there together. But you know what, Randy? The guys who take care of the aquariums keep certain fish out of that aquarium, don’t they? Because they know if they put the wrong one in there, he’s gonna eat everybody else! So they segregate even in the aquarium. Isn’t that something?

I can’t believe I need to say this, but the reason eagles and buzzards don’t marry, and the reason “certain fish” are kept away from others, is because they’re different species.

Humans with different color skin are, believe it or not, still humans.

Daubenmire doesn’t understand this because he refuses to learn a thing about science. But that won’t stop him from pontificating about why different races ought to be segregated. Like the good Christian that he is.

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Various Christian Cowards #fundie #homophobia friendlyatheist.patheos.com

There are many ways to respond inappropriately to someone else’s loss of a loved one, but the abuse received by Reverend Richard Coles, who lost his partner to an illness, takes “inappropriate” to a whole new level.

Coles is a musician, priest in the Church of England, and a contestant on Strictly Come Dancing (similar to Dancing with the Stars). He announced the death of Rev. David Coles last week:

@RevRichardColes
I’m very sorry to say that @RevDavidColes has died. He had been ill for a while. Thanks to the brilliant teams who looked after him at @KettGeneral. Funeral details to follow. “The Lord shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended”.

Given Richard Coles’ popularity, there was an outpouring of love and support, but not everyone was on the same page, as he explained days later:

@RevRichardColes
99.99999% loveliness from people and then a small but lively correspondence from Christians who wish me to know that D is in hell and I will follow. It’s like the Khmer Rouge suddenly popping up in a stream of condolence.

He said: “A letter, courageously unsigned, begins: ‘Dear Mr Coles, I can’t begin to tell you how happy I am to hear of the death of your partner…’.”

In a follow-up tweet, he added: “It continues: ‘I have been praying for your pain for a long time now…’.”

Of all the terrible things to say to someone in mourning — “He’s in a better place now”; “This happened for a reason”; “I understand how you feel” — claiming happiness over someone’s grief might be the most cruel.

It’s unfathomable how any reasonable person could think that’s appropriate, much less loving. Especially if the goal is to somehow “convert” Coles to heterosexuality and/or a specific conservative denomination of Christianity. What on earth would he find attractive about such a group?

For his part, Coles seems to be handling the abuse with a degree of positivity:

A short while later he tweeted: “The horrible letters: they don’t touch me. I am right now an expert in pain, the real kind, and these are paper darts among the incoming, and just leave me mildly curious about the state of mind of the writer.”

He’s a good guy. It’s too bad he has to deal with miserable souls who have an urge to project their own pain onto someone else.

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Soldiers of Jesus #fundie #psycho friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Jesus said “turn the other cheek,” but an evangelical Christian group called “Soldiers of Jesus” is taking over large swaths of Brazil, threatening religious minorities with death if they don’t convert. The Washington Post‘s Terrence McCoy has the disturbing story:

Priests have been killed. Children have been stoned. An elderly woman was seriously injured. Death threats and taunts are common. Gangs are unfurling the flag of Israel, a nation seen by some evangelicals as necessary to bringing about the return of Christ.

All of this is bolstered by a right-wing government that came into power on the backs of evangelical Christians who weren’t bothered enough by the blatant cruelty of President Jair Bolsonaro and a rise in Christian programming in the media that routinely paints non-Christians as villains. (It all sounds very familiar.)
These gangs in particular have broken into people’s homes, forcing them at gunpoint to destroy religious items that aren’t Christian. Religious leaders who practice a non-Christian faith have been forced to shut down their houses of worship or face death. So far, over 200 of these temples have been forced to close. There is no sign of this persecution stopping any time soon.

Until conservative Christians have the courage to call it out, no matter the country, it will never change. They’re too addicted to power to do the right thing.

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Dave Daubenmire #homophobia friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Right-wing commentator Dave Daubenmire said on his “Pass The Salt Live” webcast on Thursday that the idea of Mayor Pete Buttigieg becoming president was “wicked” because he happens to be gay.

What Buttigieg does in the bedroom is apparently disqualifying for the presidency, but Donald Trump is just fine despite the affairs, and cruelty, and corruption, and admitted sexual assaults.

Straightness is all that matters.

That’s not just our side saying that. Daubenmire literally defended Trump’s extra-marital sex life using the argument that his straightness made his sins more acceptable than Buttigieg’s.

… [Daubenmire] said that Buttigieg can never be allowed to become president because “if a man cannot figure out what to do with his sexual organs, he has no business being in the White House.”

“Donald Trump sleeping with a thousand women — I don’t know — is a perfectly normal human response, but immoral,” Daubenmire said. “But Mayor Pete Buttplug — I said that again on purpose — what he is doing is not only immoral, it’s unnatural, it’s a crime against nature. It doesn’t even make sense, yet people are actively considering allowing that man to be president of the United States. It’s beyond wicked.”

No one thinks more about what gay men do in the bedroom than white Christian men who preach against homosexuality.

Remember that Buttigieg is married and monogamous. President Obama was the same — and straight! — but that didn’t stop Daubenmire from condemning him every chance he had either.

The problem with Buttigieg, to these people, isn’t that he’s gay. It’s that he’s doing well enough among Democrats that there’s a chance he might actually win the White House. They’re afraid. So they’re attacking him in a way that’s designed to stoke fear and hatred among the GOP’s gullible, bigoted base.

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Sheila Zilinsky #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

We BIND the strongmen assigned to Donald J. Trump in the mighty name of Jesus. We cut and bring to naught the power of the spirit of the witch, the wizards, the warlocks, the witch doctors, the magi, the debonators, all sorcerers, high priests… sending attacks against him and God’s people. We SEVER the silver cords of every spirit that’s astral-projecting, even human spirits.

In the MIGHTY name of Jesus, we cut off every ritual, custom, ceremony, curse, hex, vex, spell, incantation, chant, evil spoken judgement, magic, evil prayer, dance, trance, animal and human sacrifices, drums, shells, beads, bones, candles, pins, nails, rituals, customs, voodoo, hoodoo, hooloo, joodoo, Santeria… Cut these supply lines off in the mighty name of Jesus!

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Anonymous Fundie #homophobia friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Two weeks ago, the Westerville City Council in Ohio voted 4-3 to add sexual orientation, gender identity, and gender expression to the list of classes receiving non-discrimination protection. It’s no longer legal to be denied housing or employment, for example, just because you’re LGBTQ.[…]

Council member Valerie Cumming voted in favor of that change, and she now says her family has been targeted by conservative activists as a result.

“On Sunday afternoon I arrived home from our Thanksgiving vacation to find that someone left a bag on my doorstep with two copies of an article titled ‘Democrats and their Coalition of the Damned.‘”

With a cover letter saying “Happy Thanksgiving from Your Neighbors,” the letter says “pro-choice women…should ask themselves, if I had crossed my legs instead of my fingers…” and refers to “…organized sexual deviants demanding acceptance of their perversions by the general culture.”

“There were two copies of it — one addressed to me, and one addressed to my children,” Cumming said…

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Dave Daubenmire #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

We are encompassed with a web of hatred for Christ and all things Christian and we don’t even see it. And the media points out when the black guy gets some discrimination, and the Jewish guy gets discriminated against, and the Muslim guy gets discriminated against, and there is not a lower class citizen in America than the Christian — strong Christian male. Not a lower class citizen in America than the strong-voiced Christian male.

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Steven Anderson #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Over the weekend, a group of Independent Fundamentalist Baptist preachers held yet another cult meeting where they preached all different kinds of hate. Pastor Steven Anderson of Arizona’s Faithful Word Baptist Church, for example, delivered a rant against environmentalism, saying that God created the world for us, so there’s no reason to accept climate change as real, much less an existential threat.

He claimed Al Gore was trying to protect people who didn’t need protecting,

Along the way, he denounced activist Greta Thunberg as a “sniveling Swedish brat”:


[God] formed [the world] to be inhabited. If it’s not inhabited, there’d be no point. If this Earth were just this Earth, of just animals and flowers and trees and California condors and spotted owls and three-toed sloths, the whole thing would be a waste. It’s what the Bible says. If it’s not formed to be inhabited, then it’s in vain…


… the world’s gonna end. And we already know how it’s gonna end. It has nothing to do with the climate. It has to do with the Spirit. It has to do with an angry God, raining His wrath. So that’s why following after Al Gore is vanity. That’s why following Alexandra — whatever the “O” stands for — Cortez is vanity. And following that little sniveling Swedish brat is vanity!

This is the danger of irrational thinking. By dismissing all environmentalists — and experts who back up what they’re saying about our world — as liberals who have some secret anti-Christian agenda, they’re more likely to support politicians who are equally ignorant or short-sighted enough that they’ll pass bills exacerbating the situation.

The mockery of a child is just icing on the cake for these people. It’s only “persecution” when people mock them. Never the other way around.

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Linda Harvey #homophobia #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Linda Harvey, the founder of Mission: America and a Christian who thinks straight people never engage in oral or anal sex, says that LGBTQ people can’t possibly celebrate Thanksgiving because they’re not thankful for anything.

ingratitude forms a core ingredient of the “LGBT” community, the pro-abortion movement, and the left in general…

The internet is replete with homosexual/transgender hostility toward parents, those who lovingly provided a home, allowance, support, and often college tuition, not to mention the child’s genetic heritage — and receive derision and scorn in return from sexually sinful or gender-deviant children.

The tears of these parents could fill a cathedral. God knows their pain.

Only straight pain matters, apparently. Harvey must have forgotten to mention the pain caused by Christian parents who torture their kids via conversion therapy or kick them out of the house over a same-sex relationship or gender identity issue.

In her mind, the only happy people in the world are the miserable wretches who spend their lives trying to force their will on everybody else. It’s a wonderful Thanksgiving for everybody except the people unlucky enough to have to sit next to people like her over the holiday.

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Skyler Wheeler #transphobia friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Last week, a transgender flag flew atop the Iowa Capitol building in honor of the Transgender Day of Remembrance, making it the first state to do that. Some conservative Christian lawmakers, of course, weren’t happy. Some, like State Rep. Skyler Wheeler, went so far as to call the symbolic gesture part of a “rainbow jihad.”


He made the comments to a right-wing publication:

“I found out the same time as most Iowans,” he said. “Nothing was sent to my legislative email, no phone call, absolutely nothing. It’s another way that the Rainbow Jihad continues to give those of us who don’t agree with them a finger in the eye and push their beliefs on us.”

“Flags flown at our state Capitol should not be flags that fuel division among Iowans,” Wheeler said. “How would the Rainbow Jihad react if we were trying to fly the Christian flag over the state Capitol? The Rainbow Jihad is not OK with simply living their lives. They are so hellbent on pushing their beliefs on us that they would go so far as to fly that flag over the state Capitol. It’s one of the most egregious acts of political aggression I’ve ever seen.”

It’s unclear how a trans flag pushes anything on anyone… other than the idea that we should pay respects to trans people who have died because of who they are. Apparently, that violates Wheeler’s beliefs. Unlike a Christian flag which is meant to suggest government favoritism of a particular religion, directly violating the First Amendment, the trans flag is simply a statement of respect.

And while Wheeler and fellow Republican State Rep. Dean Fisher are complaining, Iowa Safe Schools, which requested that the flag be flown, went through all the proper procedures to have their request approved, including petitioning the Iowa Department of Administrative Services. The flag flew for a grand total of five minutes.
That was too much for Wheeler, who thinks that’s tantamount to terrorism.

Wheeler, by the way, is no stranger to irrational statements promoting his beliefs. Two years ago, he defended an anti-science bill by insisting climate change and evolution were “just theories.” He also co-sponsored a bill allowing public schools to teach Bible classes, but shot down an amendment allowing similar classes for the Qur’an because “the Bible is different.” So there.

But a trans flag flying for five minutes? That’s “one of the most egregious acts of political aggression” ever.

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Warren Hurst #homophobia friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Warren Hurst, a member of the Sevier County Commission in Tennessee, said during a meeting last night that white man were losing their rights and that Pete Buttigieg shouldn’t be running for president because he’s gay.

[…]

“We got a queer running for president, if that ain’t about as ugly as you can get,” he said. “Look what we got running for president in the Democratic party. We can go over here to Hoss’s jail [Sevier County Sheriff] and get better people out of there than those running for democratic to be President of the United States.”

[…]

“I’m not prejudice, a white male in this country has very few rights and they’re getting took more every day,” said Hurst.

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Franklin Graham #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

I was saddened to see the news that President Ronald Reagan’s son, Ron, Jr., is a self-proclaimed atheist, and proud of it. His father was certainly quite different — President Reagan had a deep faith in God and in His Son, Jesus Christ. Ron, Jr., was in a television advertisement to raise money for the Freedom From Religion Foundation that aired during the Democratic debate this week and got a lot of attention. He boasted in the ad that he was a “lifelong atheist, not afraid of burning in hell.” Wow. It is, of course, his choice to believe or not to believe in God and His plan of salvation through Christ. But whether an individual “believes” in God, heaven, or hell doesn’t change the reality. The Bible tells us that hell is a place of torment, fire, and separation from God — and hell awaits those who do not repent of their sin and put their faith and trust in Christ. Let’s pray that Ron will know the saving love of Jesus Christ and turn to Him before it is too late.

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Josef B. #fundie #psycho friendlyatheist.patheos.com

In the Netherlands, what appeared to be a farm house with one person inside has since been revealed to hold six other people ages 18 to 25, all of whom were hidden in the basement for the past nine years, apparently “waiting for the end of time.”

A 58-year-old Austrian man named Josef B was arrested after police discovered those six young adults, who may have been locked up downstairs since they were children. (News reports say it is “unclear” whether they were there voluntarily, but if their entrapment occurred nine years ago, none of them would have been old enough to give consent.)

The secret spot was only found after the eldest victim escaped during the night, went to a local bar, and asked for help.

[…]

The older man, who has been arrested, was initially assumed to be the father, but local mayor Roger de Groot later told reporters that was not the case. Nor was the man the owner of the farmhouse, Mr de Groot said, adding: “I’ve never seen anything like it.”
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Paula White #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

… I’d had three dreams, and in those three dreams, we flew out on a Monday morning at that 6:00 flight. I land at 8:30 and I was going into surgery at 9:30. And I didn’t tell anyone this, but in three dreams, I saw my leg getting amputated.

And I said, “Lord” — and I know it wasn’t a fear, it wasn’t anything else — I said “something’s not right today.” And I’m sitting there, and they go in, they put the IV in me, etc. And all of a sudden, I said to the doctor, I said, “Sir,” I said, “How long?” Meaning how long will the surgery be? And he said, “Oh, we’re just waiting. They changed the anesthesiologist.”

And the moment he said that, I turned to [husband] John, I said, “Grab my phone right now.”

John goes back in the office, grabs my phone, and all of a sudden, a prophet that’s a very dear friend calls me from Ghana, and said, “Mom, you’re on a table right now. Get the IV out of your arm. There’s a demonic timeline to try to take your life.”

I looked at the doctor, I said, “Get me off of this table right now.” I’m going in surgery! Is this not true, baby? John’s looking at me like I’m crazy, but he knows when I hear the Holy Spirit, there’s nothing you can do. I looked at him, I said, “Sir, you’re not going to understand this, but I’m about to save your practice, and I’m about to save my life.” I said, “Because they have intercepted, and there’s a demonic timeline to take my life today, and God had confirmed it to me through three dreams, and I had not said a word to anybody. The Prophet calls up, and he says, ‘Mom, you’re laying on this’ and there’s a demonic, he said you can have surgery but not on this day.”

And I knew. And I said “Get this IV out of me!” And they said, “Oh, we’ll get your regular anesthesiologist. He’ll come at 2:00.” I said, “Get the IV out of my arm, or I’m ripping it out of my arm. You can’t do surgery on me today!”

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John Merrill #homophobia friendlyatheist.patheos.com

How do you win the Republican nomination for U.S. Senate if you’re from Alabama? Considering that Roy Moore came ever-so-close to doing it, we can safely say being a child molester doesn’t hurt.

But being a fan of Game of Thrones? That might do it.

AL Secretary of State John Merrill, who’s in that race, said over the weekend that TV is no good anymore because everything is gay gay gay.


Yellowhammer News reports that Merrill was asked to comment on the “shift in the culture”:

“[T]hat’s what we’ve allowed to happen,” Merrill said. “How have we allowed it to happen? There are no more good TV shows on like ‘Gunsmoke,’ ‘Bonanza,’ ‘The Virginian,’ ‘Andy Griffith,’ ‘I Love Lucy.’ We don’t have those shows anymore. We’re too interested in homosexual activities. We’re too interested in seeing how this family’s finding a way to mess on this family or to see how people are trying to date on TV, or having wife-swapping on TV. That’s what we watch. When we push back against that, and we quit allowing it to be in our homes — that’s how those changes have occurred because we’ve allowed them to slowly but surely come into our lives.”

Trashy TV has always been around, which is to say there are plenty of reasons to talk about what’s wrong with the medium. But it’s downright ignorant to pretend we’re worse off than we were several decades ago. What we have now are more creative outlets, with a more diverse array of characters, and an ability for creators to tell stories that were rarely, if ever, told in the past. That’s a huge plus, even if a bunch of shows aren’t to your liking.

Of course Merrill can’t deal with gay characters in TV, because that would require admitting gay people deserve some empathy as fellow humans. (Not every show with gay characters is all about sex, and plenty of “straight” shows are full of it.)
It’s also telling which shows Merrill holds up as the classics: the ones that featured a very uncomplicated sort of America that never truly existed. Not shows that challenged viewers or ever made them reach beyond their comfort zones. (Even I Love Lucy had the main couple sleeping in separate beds. Like normal married couples do.)

It’s exactly the sort of thing you’d expect from people who only ever claim to love one book.

When asked later what he meant by “homosexual activities,” Merrill didn’t get specific.

Asked to explain what he meant, Merrill said, “I meant what I said. People are too interested in anything that is not uplifting, edifying. They’re too busy being preoccupied with homosexual activities and the wife swap shows.”

He declined to give examples of how Americans are too preoccupied with “homosexual activities.”

He can’t give examples. He just knows homosexuality is evil. Isn’t that enough for you people?!

As we’ve said before, no one is more preoccupied with what gay men do in the bedroom than straight white conservative Christians. It’s all they ever think about.

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Ken Ham #fundie #dunning-kruger friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Creationists Are Mocking Flat Earthers for Not Understanding Science
By Hemant Mehta, June 3, 2019

Talk about a complete lack of self-awareness: Creationist Ken Ham says people who think the Earth is flat are being ridiculous because they aren’t basing their beliefs in science. And if they think the Bible supports them, it’s only because they wrongly choose which verses to quote as if that tells the whole story.

Someone should introduce him to a mirror.

His hilarious rant was prompted by a new documentary in which one group of scientifically illiterate fools tells another group of scientifically illiterate fools why they’re scientifically illiterate fools.

Now, before you contact us to tell us the earth is flat, first, please watch this documentary. We’ve thoroughly researched the supposed biblical and scientific pieces of evidence presented in favor of such a (wrong) view. It simply isn’t taught in Scripture, and the science doesn’t support it (although, sadly, many Christians are being convinced by cherry-picked data that only shows part of the whole story and out of context).

If you know someone in the flat earth movement, I encourage you to share this documentary with them. And if you’re part of it, I respectfully encourage you to humbly view this film and reconsider your position.

Ham also says people now ask him if he believes in a Flat Earth “all the time!” He doesn’t seem to realize it’s because when you promote fiction as science, you’re bound to draw in an audience that’s susceptible to bad arguments and distorted facts.

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Diamond and Silk #conspiracy friendlyatheist.patheos.com

Now, I know that [Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez]’s worried about climate change, but she need to talk to Mother Nature. Because with the Earth rotating at 1,000 miles per hour, OK, 365 days of the year, we subject to feel climate changing a little bit. But not to the tune where we have to dismantle everything and start the Earth back over again. It’s a absolutely no for us.

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Bill Charlton #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

When I was an atheist, I spent an inordinate amount of time & energy trying to disprove the Bible, God, Christianity, etc., and trying to discourage others from doing the same. It never occurred to me that, if it wasn't true, if it was just a stupid belief, then why was I SO obsessed with it, when there were so many other better uses of my time.
Obviously, the answer (which I eventually discovered) is that it's true... He's really our Creator. We didn't magically spring to life from some primordial ooze. Just look at the incredible complexity required for the simplest cell, or the fact that information could not have just appeared as complex DNA, the incredibly complex cell processes... all of it!
Do a sincerely honest and open-minded investigation of the scriptures (without falling for the critics accusations carte-blanche).
Join the many of us former atheists who were surprised at the results of a sincere look at the existence of God, the truth of the Bible, and the love of the One Who came to rescue us!

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Jonathan Shelley #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

… [Kids are] going to continue being more rebellious, more mocking, more arrogant, more prideful. You see, it’s never enough. They just want to keep mocking their parents and disobeying their parents. You’ve got to squash out the rebellion in your child.

…

You know you could squash rebellion in a public school today? Take the rebellious one out and stone him. I bet they’d shapen up pretty quick. I bet they’d figure out, “Maybe I should hearken under the authorities in my life.” And we see, unfortunately, our society is continually destroying itself, because [all of these] rebellious, arrogant, prideful teenage jerks that just don’t want to hearken to their parents, you know, and God said they should be put to death.

The guy that’s the lazy gamer, “I don’t want to get a job. I just want to play video games all day and drink alcohol with my buddies,” that guy should be put to death.

You know what? As a young man, you should be able to work! And you should work hard! And you should be sober! And the man that’s not going to do that, God says, “Well, I think you’re worthy of death.” That’s pretty serious.

Now obviously, in this society we live in today, this would never happen, right? America, this isn’t happening. You can’t take your child up to the government and say, “Look, this guy won’t listen to us, hearken to us.”

But here’s the thing. When man fails to execute God’s judgment, do you think God’s just gonna let that go? God will repay. When man fails to put someone to death, God will take care of it. And if you’re a stubborn and rebellious child, you better be careful every single step you take…

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Bruce Mejia #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

You know, obviously, this already passed yesterday, but Halloween. And I know many sermons have been preached on this, but this ticks me off. The pastors — these supposed men of God — never touch this with a ten foot pole! They don’t talk about it at all!

They don’t want to preach against it. You know why? Because their kids are out there going — I was going to say soul winning — Halloweening. You know, their kids are the ones dressing up like devils. Worshipping the devil on the 31st. So they’re too scared to say anything from the pulpit regardless of that because it’ll make them look like what? Like hypocrites. Well, guess what? They’re already hypocrites! Because they’re letting their kids do it. Aww, they’re just trying to have fun. You know what? Sodomites want to have fun, too. Does that make it right, what they do?

So don’t give me this, it’s nothing bad. It’s the Devil’s night!

Well everyone’s doing it. So what? If that person jumped off a bridge, would you do it too? No.

So we as Christians, when this stuff comes around, we need to be the ones who are casting down that imagination and say, “Sorry to crash the party, Christians. But your trunk-or-treat is wicked.” “Sorry to, you know, crash the party on this whole fun you’re having here, I know you already bought your Frozen costume, but trick-or-treating… is wicked as hell, and you’re worshipping Satan actually, and your daughter is dressed like a whore, because that girl in Frozen is a whore. Sorry to crash the party on you about that. She’s not a princess. She’s a whore.”

And every princess from Disney is a rebellious girl who has forsaken her leader, her fathers, okay? She’s forsaken the covenant of her youth. She’s not under authority. And she’s teaching every single person who’s watching her to be the same! Sorry to rain down on your parade, but I’m just here to cast doubt on this stronghold and just kill the party. Okay?

But you know what that’s called? That’s called a reality check that people need. And pastors hate that stuff. They hate when this one pastor or these two pastors get up and they say these things. Well, whether you hate it or not, you know, I hate every false way! So… You pastors need to get right with God and put these children in subjection with all gravity, and say “We’re not doing Halloween anymore.” You know, “I’ll order you a pizza if you want, for the 31st, but you ain’t going nowhere. We’re not doing this. It’s the Devil’s holiday.

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Matt Powell #fundie friendlyatheist.patheos.com

I believe if we study history — you know, the Confederates were able to shoot pterodactyls. You know, back in the Civil War. And they spread these things out. Anybody can look it up online. They spread these things out, and… this is a historical fact. So, you know, they spread this thing out and it’s got huge wing-length. It’s a pterodactyl they shot! So of course these things have been around. Now they went extinct, obviously. Slowly but surely. And so I don’t believe that just because… at some point in time, coming from your perspective, that… just because they stopped talking about it means that they never saw it. When we have all this evidence that they’ve seen it.

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