Modern wokeness was a disaster for gays. Once upon a time, you could just be gay. Gay was gay. Gay was nothing else. Gay was nothing more. You were either a dude who liked other dudes, or a girl who liked other girls. You could be yourself and be as gay as you wanted and that was that. As simple as could be.
Then came the "community" mafia. Suddenly gay being meant you were apart of some coalition with other non straights. Gay was now a community you HAD to be in. The gays had to get along with the lesbians, the lesbians had to deal with the gays, and everyone had to deal with the troons. It was the lgb"T" community after all. You dykes and fags HAVE to get alone with troons. Never mind the fact that transgender isn't even a sexuality so the whole thing makes no sense, STOP THINKING TOO MUCH BIGOT. What's that, you're a lesbian who obviously doesn't like cock because that's the whole point? Too bad, suck the girl cock anyway or else you're a bigot!
The problem with this is that gays don't really have anything in common with lesbians. They're never going to get along organically. And nobody has anything in common with troons, so that's a non fucking starter right from the get go. When the T got associated with the L and the G, the T brought along with them all their baggage and woke nonsense. Being gay was now an aggressive political statement.
As a homo I cannot even begin to tell you how hard it is to find non woke partners nowadays. I just want a cute girl to cuddle and do cute things with, I don't want to read your fucking twitter or talk about how great abortion is or how much you like multiculturism or whatever. Finding a normal gay is next to impossible. It makes you realize why everyone used to hate us and why they're starting to hate us again.
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“ Once upon a time, you could just be gay. Gay was gay. Gay was nothing else. Gay was nothing more.”
Oh but by no means. In fact once upon that very time a male gay = child raping pedophile in the eyes of everyone concerned and a female gay = hysterical and mentally ill, in need of electro-shocks and in some cases lobotomy. Odd you want to go straight back to these times, merely on account of being expected to show some basic solidarity with other people being otherized and attacked out of very comparable and very connected bigotry. We broke the treshold of having our rights at the very least heard and visible as a point to many people precisely because we all stood together.
You clearly have no concept of how our rights were even fought for and secured and yet you see yourself fit to talk for other people. Honest to fuck if you hate the idea of being part of a community, by all means, fuck the hell off and go lick the jackboots of the actual fascists, see how that works out for ya.
Then came the "community" mafia. Suddenly gay being meant you were apart of some coalition with other non straights.
If what you mean is that it's like a mafia or a cult, no, that's your fear mongering straw man. Just like your woke people. As often, your narrative is like if you were forced into something. The fact is that you're not and that you're even allowed to preach bullshit.
Once upon a time, you could just be gay...You could be yourself and be as gay as you wanted and that was that.
Sure, you could be gay. But then you would also be heavily discriminated against, the target of every bigot's violence, forced to hide your homosexuality for fear of losing your job, your home, your freedom. None of this "be as gay as you wanted" nonsense; gay-bashing is a very old crime perpetrated by the establishment, and its victims often did not survive.
Suddenly gay being meant you were apart of some coalition with other non straights.
Organizing is how LGBT people gained their civil rights. And it was transvestites who fought the hardest at Stonewall, so you should thank "troons" for your rights today, little ingrate.
“Once upon a time, you could just be gay. Gay was gay. Gay was nothing else. Gay was nothing more. You were either a dude who liked other dudes, or a girl who liked other girls.”
It’s never been that way. There’s always assholes around, and that’s exactly why there are gay pride parades and pro-gay organisations. It’s a counter against this type of attitude. If you could “just be a dude who liked other dudes, or a girl who liked other girls” there wouldn’t need to be any parades or demos. You don’t see parades for fans of Dr Who, nobody’s saying Whovians want to rape kids.
The ‘community’ precedes gays and lesbians having civil rights by decades. If people are marginalised they form a community.
Quotee says gays don’t have anything in common with lesbians… no. San Francisco has a big population of both. We know why the gays are there, the city being a drop-off point for military who had been in proximity to loads and loads of other men during the Second World War and who simply decided not to go home. So the lesbians? Can’t be just co-incidence that they turned up as well. Brighton has been gay even longer, and the lesbians are there as well. It was Pride parade yesterday where I work and there were mixed groups walking about in my supermarket.
Is this guy really gay? Is he a SIRL? I can’t say. If he is gay, he is incredibly naive, and in regard to his attitudes an older member of the community needs to ‘set him straight’. (Oops, very poor choice of words there.)
Suddenly gay being meant you were apart of some coalition with other non straights
...and those who are all for LGBT rights, such as yours truly: Straight . I'm not the only one, either.
It's a story that won't end happily ever after for the likes of you .
Good.
If there is a better reason for the teaching of LGBTQ+ history than clueless, airheaded harpy's inane ranting about having to show basic human decency to other people locked in the same social crosshairs as she is, I haven't seen it.
The police kicked in the doors of gays and lesbians in equal measure. They brutalized the trans community, the G, the L, with the same conformist vigor back at Stonewall. We're all in the same fucking boat, kitten, so stop poking holes in the hull.
Too bad, suck the girl cock anyway or else you're a bigot!
That’s a new one for my “things literally nobody ever actually said seriously” list.
Let me let you in on a little secret, babydoll: I am a gay man who does not see himself eating man pussy or sucking girl cock any time in the foreseeable future, or ever, really, yet I am not transphobic, nor have I ever had a trans person try to tell me otherwise. In the reality-based community, people understand that what others are—or aren’t —sexually attracted to is not only something virtually if not entirely beyond their control, but also frankly none of anybody else’s damn business in the first place unless they consent to it being so. It’s your own little daffy TERF dyke community where most people actually seem to think otherwise.
The problem with this is that gays don't really have anything in common with lesbians
I know the massive, terrifyingly politically-correct Wokeism Mob would probably Cancel the everliving shit out of me if they ever found out I said something like this out loud, but just between you and me, gay men and lesbians are both absolutely homosexual as all get out, and any people trying to pretend otherwise are just lying to themselves. Such an offensive and controversial truth, I know.
Well, if you were a well-off and lived in certain countries in Western Europe circa the 1920s, then you could semi-openly live as gay or lesbian. It still wasn’t entirely safe, but you could. Likewise if you were a member of the aristocracy in certain eras in certain parts of the world, you could get away with it if you weren’t obnoxious about it. You’d still pay a bit of a social penalty, but you weren’t in significant danger of losing your power (or your life) over it. There did exist some stone age cultures which were tolerant of it, but they made up only a very tiny part of the global population. Beyond those narrow circumstances? Not in the slightest, and it’s disingenuous to equate those experiences with those of the vast majority.
Homosexuals are about 1% of the population. Trans people are about 1% of the population. Bisexuals are maybe 5%. Intersex people are about 2%. Non-binary is not consistently measured, but it probably isn’t more than 10% of the population…
You see where this is going, right? Luckily, you don’t need to get to 50% total, since you just need to outnumber the die-hard bigots, not the vast majority of straight people who really don’t care what’s in other people’s pants or what they do with it.
Once upon a time, you could just be gay.
Tell that to Alan Turing and think how much better your computer might be if he hadn’t committed suicide after being arrested for being gay.
@ChurchyLaFemme #137548
Not only arrested, but forced to choose between imprisonment or chemical castration, which is what happened to him, he was chemically castrated by the UK government for the heinous crime of "existing and being gay". Even after the vital code breaking he did to help the Allied forces win WWII, they just went "who cares who he helped, he's a poofter" and did that shit to him.
@pyro #137547
Actually the numbers are probably quite a bit higher than that, since most studies about this were done during times were people were still deeply in the closet (or in countries with very discriminatory practices towards LGBT+). More modern research and in more open countries seem to point towards >10% bisexuals and about 5% homosexuals, while the number of transpeople seems to also rise. Of course, homo- and transphobes are just dismissing these numbers as being caused by homo- and transsexuality being “trendy”, but that’s utter bollocks.
Unfortunately, in case of transphobia, the LGBT+ community seems to split itself apart, so I fear that we lose the combined weight of the community in this case. I know of many transgender people who feel left alone or even discriminated by the gatekeepers inside the community, and I can’t blame them, considering assholes like the “LGB alliance”, TERFs or the growing number of lesbians (and even some gay men) who think that now that THEY have (almost) equal rights, its totally ok to switch sides and become oppressors themself. That trend disappoints me immensely.
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