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Jonathon Durno #fundie quora.com

(In answer to the question: Is Jesus Christ Superstar blasphemous?)

It absolutely is. The writers attempt to portray Judas Iscariot as more decent than he actually was. Judas most certainly is in hell. Jesus said about Judas, “The Son of Man will go just as it is written about him. But woe to that man who betrays the Son of Man! It would be better for him if he had not been born”, implying that Judas would burn in hell for eternity.

This is solidified by the fact that “Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve.” Judas didn't beg for repentance, but instead killed himself.

People who murder themselves are either opressed or possessed by demons. Suicide is seen as murder in the eyes of God, and thus Judas was a murderer, a greed-filled betrayer, and a blasphemer. His portion of hell is surely with satan.

Not only this, but Judas knee the truth if the kingdom of heaven and still turned from it. This is high treason in the eyes of God, and unforgivable sin - blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.

Thanks be to God that Jesus Christ is risen, for He conquered death, hell, the demonic and Satan. The victory is Christ's, and if we believe in Christ, we are sealed by His Holy Spirit unto eternity.

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Paul Forshaw #fundie quora.com

You have to repent of your sins and open up to the Lord admit your faults and then you have to do two things 1. You have to accept God’s forgiveness with all your heart mind and soul. 2. You have to believe that Jesus and God the Father are forgiving you of your repented sins…remember though they know a true repentant sinner..so you cant have any doubts…..final note look in the New Testament where Jesus ..heals a person and says “ Go your Faith has saved you” ..having faith is in my opinion a gift and something very valuable in fact priceless, without it DOOM ! There are billions unfortunately for various reasons lack of faith one of them will not make it.

Whatever religion you have …Jesus says the ONLY way to The Father in Heaven is through HIM ALONE…I am fearful for all these people with Animal Headed Gods etc..

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Kenyetta Tunne #racist quora.com

Wow. much sophistry here.

‘White people’ is a concept that was invented by the English ruling-class.

Read your ID. It reads “white”, but that’s a social-construct just like ‘god’.

Somehow, seemingly most white atheists believe it as real as the rocks and stars.

That’s the ‘whiteness delusion’.

These facts will not go away.

You can either equate pernicious social-constructs or admit that you choose not to equate them, which is hypocrisy.

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Atheists would not accept the designation of Christian or any other religion being forced upon them, but have no problem with ‘whiteness’ being forced upon them by the state.

That is selective reasoning and morality.

The claim of Atheists is they use reasoning above ideologies, but yet they ignore the pernicious ideologies that serve them.

Atheists know about fallacious reasoning, except for their own.

It’s time to examine this belief.

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Kris Harpster #fundie quora.com

My choice is to not respond. It’s not my place to arm wrestle anyone over to my belief. If another “hears” truth in my words, and that leads them on a path in search of more truth, then I have planted a seed. If another resonates completely with my words, then that person is validated in their belief, and feels deeply seen and understood. I don’t personally believe that spiritual understanding can be taught to those who are not in a spiritual position to be taught.

I know, from my experience, spiritual understanding is not an intellectual enterprise. It’s truth beyond words and intellectual concepts. The intellect can be utilized to help illuminate truth, but this is useless as a tool to convince a nonbeliever. A nonbeliever doesn’t understand the truth is beyond intellect, and thinks that if the believer cannot win an intellectual debate, he is disproven. When the truth is, the intellectual debate is entirely outside the realm of spiritual truth.The intellect can only be used to indicate. The reality is beyond words. Using arguments made of words causes the reality to be lost.

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Kenyetta Tunne #fundie #moonbat quora.com

The construct of ‘white people’ was invented solely for the purpose of oppression.

Atheists attack the concept of god because they believe it hurts society, but ignore the social construction of ‘whiteness’.

The concept of ‘white people’ was invented by the English ruling-class. That’s evidenced history.

Atheists say god in an invention that is bad for society, but ignore that the concept of ‘white people’ is an invention that is bad for society.

It was invented for division during the colonial period, and still functions for division today.

Atheists have one set of ethics they use to deconstruct the concept of god, and a completely different one to deconstruct the concept of ‘white people’.

That is selective ethics.

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Kenyetta Tunne #racist quora.com

You lost the point.

‘God’ and “White People’ are both inventions. (social constructs)

Atheists speak about ‘God’ as an invention that is bad for society, but never ever speak about ‘White People’ as an invention that is bad for society, even though there is much turmoil being caused by that invented concept today.

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This is all evidenced. The construction of the white identity is evidence. The turmoil it causes in society is evidenced.

The silence of Atheists on this issue is also evidenced.

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To rephrase:

If Atheists are against constructs that are bad for society, why are they not vocally against the construct of ‘white people’?

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Kenyetta Tunne #racist quora.com

That answer denies that the concept was invented specifically for the purpose of oppression.

That is not part of the atheists narrative.

I’d say that the idea that it is merely a “relation to a real phenomenon…skin color” is a strawman fallacy, in the sense it is aside from the point.

The main thrust here is the invention of a construct solely for the purpose of oppression.

Atheists know that is true with regard to religion, but don’t say a word in regards the ‘white’ social construct.

If Atheists and Humanists are against pernicious social constructs, they should vocalize an opposition to, or at least a consistent explanation of the invention of ‘whiteness’.

That’s selective ethics.

You either see that or you don’t.

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Temar Bishop #racist nypost.com

A black parolee arrested for raping and bashing a white woman on the roof of his Bronx apartment building allegedly told a witness that she “deserved” the brutal attack because of slavery, according to court papers.

“She was a white girl. She deserved it because us minorities have been through slavery,” Temar Bishop, 23, allegedly said to someone who witnessed the bloodied 20-year-old woman after the assaults, according to a criminal complaint.

“This is what they used to do to us. This is what they did to us during slavery. They used to beat us and whip us.”

Temar Bishop, 23, was arrested by authorities on Friday in Virginia on a slew of charges connected to the early morning June 1 assault, which officials have deemed a hate crime, according to authorities.

The 20-year-old met Bishop — who was on parole after serving just over a year behind bars for robbery — around 5 a.m. and joined him on the rooftop of the public housing building on Alexander Avenue near East 137th Street in Mott Haven, police said.

Bishop allegedly punched her repeatedly before raping her, then continued his assault — kicking and punching her in the head and body until she fell unconscious, cops said.

He then fled, but returned with the unnamed witness — who saw the woman “laying on the roof landing with blood covering her face” — and then allegedly made the remarks about slavery, court documents say.

The woman was treated at an area hospital for several injuries, including a broken nose and broken teeth. She was also “vomiting blood,” the complaint states.

Police sources previously told The Post a Special Victims Division investigator described the attack as “one of the worst he’s ever seen.”

Bishop was charged with two counts of predatory sexual assault, attempted murder, rape, two counts of assault, sexual abuse, assault and a hate crime.

He was arraigned in Bronx court on Saturday, where he was ordered held without bail, a spokeswoman for the Bronx District attorney’s office said.

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Rich Pivo #fundie quora.com

Your commentary is full of holes, but you already know that, suspecting no one will call you out on it. But if you’ve actually read the Bible (clearly you haven’t), you’d realize there are several examples of scientific information they had no way of knowing at that time. As for cleanliness, what do you think their dietary laws and laws about washing were all about? It’s a complex book, yet simple to read and understand well enough, even for you. Do yourself a favor and educate yourself by actually reading it and then you’ll know what’s in it. Brush stroke philosophy is ignorance and arrogance.

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Rabbi Yosef Berge #fundie breakingisraelnews.com

$700 Quintillion Gold Asteroid to be Mined by NASA Paving the Way for Messiah to Arrive

What I see for them is not yet, What I behold will not be soon: A star rises from Yaakov, A scepter comes forth from Yisrael; It smashes the brow of Moab, The foundation of all children of Shet.” Numbers 24:17 (The Israel Bible™)

Asteroid

When scientists announced the discovery of a “golden asteroid”, their interests were in how this could open up the field of asteroid mining. But people who look to the heavens for more spiritual rewards saw different, more Redemptive implications for the discovery.

Discovered in 1852, Psyche 16, as it is named, is relatively close, parked in orbit between Mars and Jupiter. The asteroid is exceptional in several respects. It is one of the ten most massive asteroids in the asteroid belt with an average diameter of approximately 140 miles, making it the most massive M-type (metallic) asteroid discovered to date. Psyche is so massive enough that its gravitational effect on other asteroids can be observed, which enables scientists to measure its mass. The results indicated that Psyche was incredibly dense. Unlike most other asteroids that are rocky or icy bodies, scientists think the M-type (metallic) asteroid 16 Psyche is comprised mostly of metallic iron and nickel similar to Earth’s core.

What it’s worth

Scientists at NASA are now planning a mission that will be the first stage in a program to mine the minerals of Psyche 16. Targeted to launch in August of 2022, the Psyche spacecraft would arrive at the asteroid in early 2026, orbiting for 21 months to do a complete study of the space rock. This will be NASA’s first mission to a metal planet. This may sound fantastic with the astronomical costs far outweighing the results however experts estimate the asteroid’s worth at $700 quintillion. For those who have never had a quintillion dollars, one quintillion is a one followed by 18 zeroes. To put that into perspective, it is feared that a sudden influx of such wealth could crash the global economy which is valued at a paltry $75.5 trillion.

This mission to Psyche 16 was intended as a first step in a larger initiative to mine the asteroid belt but several other missions are already underway. NASA’s OSIRIS-REx is orbiting an asteroid called Bennu, which has an estimated value of $700 million. The Japanese have sent a probe to another asteroid, Ryugu, with an estimated worth of $82.86 billion. Deep Space Industries and Planetary Resources each plan to mine the 2011 UW158 asteroid, worth up to $5.7 trillion.

Biblical interpretation

Rabbi Yosef Berger, the rabbi of King David’s Tomb on Mount Zion, was pleasantly surprised when he heard of the discovery. But his amusement turned to shock when he heard of NASA’s response which, he explained, did not relate to the asteroid’s place in the final redemption.

“The Bibles explicitly describes an astronomical phenomenon, the Star of Jacob, that will presage the Messiah,” Rabbi Berger said, citing a verse from the section of the Torah in which the non-Jewish prophet, Balaam, blessed the Children of Israel.

What I see for them is not yet, What I behold will not be soon: A star rises from Yaakov, A scepter comes forth from Yisrael; It smashes the brow of Moab, The foundation of all children of Shet. Numbers 24:17

“Jewish sources, most notably the Zohar, describe stars and other things that happen in the heavens before the Messiah comes,” Rabbi Berger said. He suggested a reason behind this, referring to the copper serpent Moses was commanded to make as a cure for anyone who was bitten by a snake in the desert.

Moshe made a copper serpent and mounted it on a standard; and when anyone was bitten by a serpent, he would look at the copper serpent and recover. Numbers 21:9

“They were not praying to the snake, but when they turned their eyes upward, they were reminded to pray to heaven,” Rabbi Berger explained. “In the end-of-days, we will all be looking up at the heavens because of these stars. Some people will only be able to see gold and silver, or their own intellect and their own glory, while others will be looking for God.”

A promise of redemption

Rabbi Berger went on to explain that according to Jewish sources, the final Geula (redemption) will mirror the Exodus from Egypt. The rabbi cited a verse from the Bible in which God described the period of slavery in Egypt, while promising that the Jews will be rewarded with great wealth for their suffering.

And He said to Avram, “Know well that your offspring shall be strangers in a land not theirs, and they shall be enslaved and oppressed four hundred years; but I will execute judgment on the nation they shall serve, and in the end they shall go free with great wealth. Genesis 15:14

Just as the Jews left Egypt with great wealth, precisely as God promised, the period of the final Geula will be part of that same promise and will be marked by unprecedented wealth,” Rabbi Berger told Breaking Israel News. “Some of Israel took this gift and used it to make the Golden Calf. Others used it for the Tabernacle. We are blessed to live in a period of unprecedented wealth and are being given the same choice.”

Messianic implications

The rabbi suggested that this wealth and the potential for wealth that exceeds what is currently available on earth may suggest what form the final Geula will take.

“Some people mistakenly believe that the Messiah will result from a difficult process of suffering. That is not accurate,” Rabbi Berger said. He explained that if we do not merit the Messiah, the final redemption could come in a terrifying manner characterized by horrific wars, plagues, and natural disasters. The other possibility, the rabbi explained, is that the Messiah would be incredibly pleasant.

“This is what we call achishena,” Rabbi Berger said. “If we merit it, the Messiah will come before its appointed time in a gradual, drawn-out process accented by miracles. This is the Messiah that will be accompanied by heavenly signs, perhaps even asteroids made of solid gold.”

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Gali Galit, Messianic, Missionary, Scholastic. #fundie quora.com

President Trump has a peace offer on the table for Israel and the "palestinians" that includes but is not limited to $50 Billion for the "palestinians" if they will simply recognize Israel’s right to exist. It does indeed sound like the “Deal of the Century.” We will have to wait and see what the "palestinians" decide after the entire deal is presented.

As you may know, Israel is going to elections on September 17, 2019. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, who has been elected Prime Minister of Israel five (5) consecutive times, knows that peace can’t be made with the "palestinians" who have turned down 19 out of 19 peace proposals since the year 1919, and have broken every cease-fire agreement ever tabled, consistently firing rockets into Israeli civilian population, thereby committing international war crimes with the blessing of the United Nations. That is only one small piece of the pie that Israel is victim of.

It is possible that on Israel’s election day (September 17, 2019), someone other than PM Netanyahu could win. Some of PM Netanyahu’s rivals are determined to make peace with the "palestinians" despite their history of peace-proposal rejections and cease-fire violations. According to the Jerusalem Post, the "palestinians" hope that PM Netanyahu’s inexperienced rivals win.

Regardless of who wins this election, it appears that a peace treaty between Israel and the "palestinians" is around the corner.

As you know, the Bible speaks of a 7-year peace treaty. The "palestinians" will break this peace treaty at 3 1/2 years (Daniel 9:27). The reason for this is that centuries ago, Islam’s ‘Prophet’ Mohammed made a peace treaty with the Meccans because he couldn’t defeat them, the same way that Islam can’t defeat Israel now. Mohammed used the ‘peace time’ to strengthen his military. When Mohammed thought the time was right, he broke the peace treaty and attacked the Meccans when they least expected it, because the Meccans thought the peace treaty was in effect. Because the Meccans weren’t expecting to be attacked, Mohammed defeated them in less than 24 hours. As a result, making and breaking peace treaties with those that Islam wants to conquer became an Islamic principle of war, simply called “Al-Hudebiya” or “Hudebiya."

In the Biblical 7-year peace treaty, the moslems will break it at 3 1/2 years (Daniel 9:27). Jerusalem will be surrounded by armies and made desolate (Luke 21:20). Islam has already stolen the Jewish Temple Mount, and are going to steal the coming Jewish Third Temple when their 12th imam arrives so he can sit in it and claim that he is God (2 Thessalonians 2:4). (The Third Temple will probably be built during the first 3 1/2 years of peace.) The Islamic Black Stone will be brought to the Temple Mount (Matthew 24:15) and it will be given a mouth to speak (Revelation 13:5 of the Bible, and the islamic writing Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 961; Ibn Maajah, 2944, The Black Stone #3). Everyone who refuses to convert to Islam will be killed (Revelation 20:4; Daniel 7:23, 25.) This will happen for 1,290 days (Daniel 12:11) which is the remaining 3 1/2 years of the 7-year peace treaty. Messiah Yeshua/Christ Jesus will return at approximately 1,335 days (Daniel 12:12). At that time, He will destroy Islam (Revelation 21:1-4; Isaiah 65:17-25; Isaiah 11:6-9; Revelation 21:19-27). The thousand-year reign of Christ follows, etc.

There is speculation that the mark of the beast is a microchip. But is it reasonable to believe that Christians will be beheaded for not taking a microchip? (Revelation 20:4)

Some of you may know about the Christian persecution going on in the world right now that isn’t making the mainstream news: Christians are almost extinct in the Middle East. (You can also Google Images of Christian persecution in the Middle East.) Our brethren there are dying at the hand of Islam because they are refusing to deny Christ and convert to Islam.

Since the 7-year peace treaty appears to be around the corner, there is no time for speculation about what the mark of the beast is or isn’t. Our making the right decision will determine our eternity for sure (Revelation 14:9-11).

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Alice Leszek #fundie books.google.com

There are doctors all over the world that are dealing with people with mental conditions. Statistically, I wonder how many are battling demons. How radical it would be if we treated people with prayer, with Jesus, so that they might be set free. There are people all over the world who celebrate Christmas and stop at that not knowing, not realizing, not truly understanding the power of Jesus and how powerful he could be in their lives.
There are demons that are wandering around in the spirit, who are no more powerful than you or I. They know Jesus is the Son of God, and they know the power he possesses; they fear him for that and rightly so. This experience I had was not a dream or vision. It truly lasted for days and days. At the time, I didn't know what was going on; it was only afterward, as time passed, that God revealed it to me, revealed himself to me, and gave me these scriptures to prove what he was revealing to me was true. How did he do this? After I was delivered by the Lord from the demons that had tormented me, I had another experience. It wasn't a dream or a vision, but rather, this time, I was caught up in the spirit by God. My human eyes were open, but in addition to that, God enabled me so that I could see in the spirit world. There was a noticeable difference between this experience and the one I had with the demons. God was in control, and throughout, there was nothing but peace. At first I wasn't sure what was going on, but then God started revealing and teaching things to me. This revelation commenced at a pace that I could handle. He told me he wanted me to understand, and we handled it like a Q&A session. He first told me that there are many demons in this world and that they want to live in human bodies. I asked why were there not more people running around mad. He told me that they are working on people in different ways, he told me that they are invisible to human eyes but that you can see them in the spirit, and then he opened my eyes to see. He pointed out a man to me, and I could see from a distance that there were demons inside of him. The Lord asked me how many there were, but I could only tell that there was more than one; yet he looked normal from the outside. As if reading my mind, the Lord said that he was not normal, and these demons were controlling this man's life and causing him to make bad decisions, and he can't sleep at night.
Next he showed me a woman, and I could see the demons inside of her. He explained to me that these demons caused her to overeat, and she also could not sleep at night. I was in Rosie's house as the Lord was revealing this all to me. I could see so far, it was astonishing. I could see the roads and into different houses, and there were demons everywhere. There was a particular man that the Lord showed me; he was in the road and a demon was just standing there, talking in his ear. The Lord said that this is something that commonly happens in people's lives: demons whispering in people's ears. As I watched, the Lord opened my ears to hear what the demon was saying and what the man was thinking. The man had had an argument with his wife and was very upset. He felt that he was tired of his wife. The demon asked the man why doesn't he just kill her. I could visibly see the man receiving these words. To himself, he said that no one would know it was him. The demon heard this thought and, even louder, said that he should kill his wife and added that no one would know that it was him and that this was the only way out of his marriage. The man received those words also and was convinced to think about it further.
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So the Lord said that if this man could say God's Word in his mind against those murderous thoughts, the demon would leave him alone. However, if he does not, he will continue to listen to this demon and kill his wife and be caught. How can you know God's Word if you don't read it? The devil knows this, and that is why he fights so hard against bibles being in schools and stuff like that. He knows that if children read the Bible and have this information, he will lose power over them. Instead, he encourages them to watch TV and get on the Internet so he can feed them whatever he wants.
The Lord showed me some men in a house that were smoking marijuana, and then he showed me a demon in a tree and indicated that he was the controller of the whole village. I could draw you a picture of what this demon looked like. It was so big it could look over the whole village. It had a body of a human from its head to where the wings started. Under its wings, it had hands with fingers on it and the legs of an animal with fur on it. The Lord told me to look at what the demon does to them after they smoke. This is what happened: This demon was on the tree far from where the men were smoking. It reached its finger across the way, and while the men were smoking, he commanded the first man to go steal. The man didn't hesitate and left immediately. He told the next man to go beat his wife up and to then go hide in the bushes and wait for another woman to beat. Again, this guy didn't hesitate either. The third guy in the house was Rosie's husband. The demon stretched his hand to him and commanded him to commit adultery with another woman, and off he went. This demon was watching them and was laughing and enjoying himself. The Lord showed me these men doing these things and explained to me that when these men smoked, they gave their minds up and were no longer in control of themselves. The demon waited until they were smoking and getting high and used that as an opening to use his power on them.

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Shawn Bolz #fundie wesleygospel.com

“Revelation from the Library Room of Heaven”
by Shawn Bolz
Jan 28, 2004

In This Library Room Was Charles Finney!

After looking at many books, the spiritual being that was with me motioned me toward the center of the room again. He led me to stand next to some men who were already in eternity. One of the men was talking to two other men. I heard the Holy Spirit say, “That is Charles Finney,” and I grew excited inside! I haven’t read much about Charles Finney, but there was the glory of our abiding God pulsating from him. His eyes were filled with the revelation of Jesus and the plans of God!

He was talking about revival and telling the two other men, “What God did in my day was awesome, and many of us were privileged to experience great outpourings that are now looked upon as revival. But there is a release of glory from Heaven coming that will bring such a complete revival to America, that it will far exceed any revival ever known in any country.”

America is Close to Revival

“The church in America is full of doomsday prophets proclaiming an end to America, but they don’t understand that the country is only a few hundred years old and still in its infancy. It has many destinies to play out, and God is going to reactivate the covenants of the forefathers in the land, and America will start to grow and mature. God has both hidden and obvious purposes for America that will unfold over a long period of time and this coming revival is going to activate the plans of the Creator that were promises at the forefront of the nation’s history.” He spoke of a coming year and said: “This is a gateway year that will help build the gate from Heaven to Earth. The Holy Spirit will whisper strategic things into the land through churches, music, media, events, and then soon these things will be shouted from roof tops!”

At this point I saw a calendar that had various years on it. There were 8 future years (not in succession) circled and names of cities next to different years. The first year only had a few major cities, but each year that was circled had more and more cities until there were too many to list. I could see a cloud off in the distance of this vast library, and I realized that it was a cloud of angels with glory swirling around it. It was the angelic host that would release these things on Earth. There was constant movement in the cloud. The scene was truly beyond description.

Charles’ Message to Me

Then Charles Finney turned to me, (I didn’t even know he knew I was listening), and he shouted at me face to face: “One Nation Under God!” “One Nation Under God!” “ONE NATION UNDER GOD!” He said this ten times. Some kind of deep impartation came with his words and rested in the bowels of my spirit. I had a knowing that Jesus has an incredible plan to build the church in America and bring revival to the lost. He is going to bring a picture of His body all over the world through America! I knew that intercession was going to go forth on the Earth with new strategies for America.

I Saw a Vision of Holiness Hitting the Air Waves

I then saw the Spirit of Holiness released from Isaiah 11. I saw it touching media and broadcasting services. I saw God-ordained messages broadcast through the media waves into the Earth. God is about to claim His ownership in radio stations, TV, and movie theaters. I saw that He wants a satellite that man has made by His inspiration. I saw a special anointing come on these tools to bring the message of holiness and the cross unto salvation.

After–I saw the Holy Spirit change the atmosphere of the air waves with waves of His anointing hitting the media. I saw it cause power bursts that would literally destroy in the natural some of the secular equipment used by organizations of the world. There will be some days of disturbance that will hit multiple media centers and these will be signs that the Forerunner Spirit is going to come upon these very industries.

Commissioned Back to Earth

At the end of this vision I was looking at the Book of Life again. The spiritual being that had been with me in the Library Section of the Future came over to me once more. He had books in his hands and he started to push them towards me. I thought he was handing them to me so I stuck out my hands–instead he pushed them into me. As I took them in, I was sent back to Earth.

I was sitting in my chair and God spoke to my spirit, saying, “I am releasing books from every section to expand people! The Library Room of Heaven will be known on Earth! It will bring a manifestation of My government being established. Many leaders will be visited and the difference in what comes forth in their communications will be evident.”

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Lauren Stratford #fundie books.google.com

My Own Hell
Not all of the rituals took place in Victor's basement. Some occurred on the far side of his estate, or deep in the hills. Occasionally we ventured into a church or cemetery. But no matter where they occurred, it was my own personal hell! I was not Victor's woman for the purpose of becoming a satanist. I was never trained to be a satanist. I only attended the ceremonies because Victor took me with him. However, I was seldom just a passive observer. Victor believed that Satan would give him the power he so desperately craved if he offered his woman as a sexual sacrifice. So I was seldom taken to a ritual where I was not abused.
My one small defense was to carry a little New Testament with the Psalms hidden in a pocket. Whenever I had a chance, I would sneak it out and read a verse or two. Usually I found myself reading from the Psalms. It comforted me to read about David's despair and how God kept loving him and giving him the strength to go on.
Once when I was offered as a sexual sacrifice the New Testament fell out of my pocket. Victor saw it and was livid. He picked it up and tore it into tiny pieces, then threw the pieces on the ground and urinated on them. When he was done, he commanded me to never touch another Bible. "I'll not have my woman being a Jesus lover!" he yelled. "And neither will Satan!"
To my shame, I remained silent. I wanted to yell back at him that there was nothing he could do to make me stop loving Jesus. But I was too scared. However, Victor was now convinced that offering me to be used by the satanists would be doubly pleasing to Satan because of my faith in Jesus.
I don't know how many nights I was laid on that cold, hard slab of rock—naked, shivering from the cold of night, while listening to unending chants that beckoned Satan. Every time, the same horrifying fear would grip my heart as the demons were conjured up to give their orders as to how my body would be used. The steel of a purified knife glistened in the candlelight, and I wondered if it would be used on my body. Already there were scars on my body, for it was commonplace to drain blood into the chalice from a cut they made on me. Sometimes, when a knife was poised above my heart, I wished to God that the high priest would plunge it swiftly into my body, putting an end to my hell. My life was a slow, torturous death fiat never ended.
Suffer the Little Children
Another element of some of the rituals was the sacrifice of animals, and even infants—sometimes taken directly from the young pregnant mother. I hesitate to write of these sacrifices, but I must.
I witnessed the ultimate sacrifice of a baby—skinned while still alive. I heard its screams which must have reached to the heavens. But even God seemed to turn a deaf ear. I often wondered why He allowed the hideous torture of a helpless, innocent little child. Didn't He have the power to protect the little ones? Didn't the sound of the screams that only an infant can make bother Him? Was He a God of love or was He a cold, uncaring God? Bitterness and anger toward this "God of love" began to grow in my heart. How could this Person show no pity on an innocent baby? That question would ring in my mind until I would find myself looking up to the heavens, screaming at Him in anger and resentment.
Victor told me that the purest sacrifice, the sacrifice that pleases Satan the most, is none other than an infant or young child. Why? Because children represent purity and innocence; they belong to God. Animals are offered to Satan. Adults, willingly or unwillingly, are offered to Satan. But Satan revels in the most macabre, inhuman, and bestial evil he can conceive in the diabolical machinations of his mind. There is no evil more perverse than the murder of a little one whose life has been robbed from God and sacrificed to Satan.
Where do they get the children? That is a valid question. I'm sure that it is very difficult for people to believe that children can be used for sacrifices in this country. If I had not witnessed this atrocity, I would ask the same question. Believe me, I would like to deny it, or at least doubt it. But I can't. I learned the answer the hard way.
Tom was a Master Counselor in satanism, and Victor frequently brainstormed ideas for rituals with him. One night I heard Victor blurt out, "I've got a good one, Tom. Listen to this. This is too much, man. I mean, this will blow your brains out!" Victor tried to describe his idea, but he was so consumed with the brilliance of his newly devised horror that he couldn't speak. It was as if his brain was working faster than his mouth.
I had seen Victor like this before. His voice always rose to a higher pitch and ran on fast-forward when he was trying to explain a new idea for a future ritual. I always felt I was hearing Satan speak when Victor was this way. I anticipated that each new revelation would be a little more demonic, a little more sadistic, a little more perverse than the last one. I was usually right. This one was no exception.
"Tom, I want Satan to give me more power than any other high priest," exclaimed Victor. "My Master Teacher has always expected great things from me. I don't want to disappoint him. I've been racking my brain thinking about what I can do that will make me more powerful than anyone else. I think I've found it!"
"I'm afraid to ask," Tom said dryly. "Don't lay too much on me if I have any part in your new plan." Though a close friend of Victor's, Tom had always been a little leery of these brainstorms.
"It goes like this." Victor's speech slowed and he was now talking in dead earnest. "We'll get a teenage boy and girl off the street and bring them up here. Then we'll get a baby from a gal we've been keeping our eyes on. Or maybe we'll even use the mother. Yeah! That would be even better."
"Wait a minute," Tom interrupted. "Where are we getting this baby from?"
"Oh, you know, Tom. That babe we've been hiding out. That one who thinks we're going to find a good home for her baby. She's going to have the kid any day now."
"Oh, yeah, I know the one. I can't believe how dumb these girls are. Who does she think we are, anyway—the fairy princess?" Tom was laughing so hard he could hardly speak.
As the laughter died down, Victor continued. "We'll marry the two kids off to each other during the ritual. Then we'll present this little kid to them. We'll make them a family—Mom and Dad and the new baby—the whole family scene."
Victor was getting excited again. Speaking faster and faster, he began to describe his plan for presenting this entire "family" to Satan. The two teenagers would be forced to sanctify their marriage union by having sexual relations with each other on the altar. Then the teenagers and the baby would be sexually abused by the coven members.
The grand finale would be the sacrifice of the baby. When I heard that, once again, as I had done so many times before, I raised my head to the heavens and silently cried out, "My God, what more can Satan do?" Once again, the heavens remained silent.
What particularly shocked me was the way Tom and Victor, and occasionally some coven members, discussed where and how they would get the babies. I learned from Tom that there were fraudulent people who represented themselves as caseworkers of adoption agencies or heads of placement homes. They carried so-called "legitimate" identification papers, but they were either satanists or were acting as go-betweens. Their purpose was to get the unsuspecting and well-intentioned unwed mother to sign her baby away to a pornographic ring or to people connected with satanic cults.
One afternoon Victor and Tom were laughing about what they called "want-ad babies." "Did you see the ad I placed in the paper the other day?" Tom asked. "I said that Janie and I were prospective parents who were searching for an unwed pregnant young woman who would give her baby up to us for adoption after it was born. Man, you wouldn't believe how many gals answered the ad! We've got a supply of babies all set up whenever we need them. We could have enough babies to last us a whole year!"
I cringed. I'd never heard of babies referred to as a supply before. This was too much. I got sick and threw up. Victor and Tom laughed and called me a wimp._
On another occasion some coven members sat around and talked about their breeders. The word "breeder" was new to me. One of the members explained that breeders were women who were born, marked, and raised for the sole purpose of having babies that would be used by satanists—either to be raised in satanism or used in ritualistic sacrifices. Since there was never any public record of their births, they were never missed when they were abused or killed.
I thought I had heard it all until a high priestess approached Victor after a ritual as he and I were about to leave. She informed him that she had completed the assignment. "I convinced Judy (a new female coven member who was eight months pregnant) to assume the highest honor. She agreed to give her baby by C-section while lying on a purified altar."
I gasped. Victor turned and chuckled. He was always amused when I reacted in shock. Then he asked the priestess, "Did you make arrangements for a doctor?"
"Yes, I've engaged the services of a licensed doctor," she answered. "I understand that he is one of ours."
I'm sure this seems too horrendous for many of you to comprehend. It was for me. But I heard it and saw it. It's true.

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Kay Fay, 20years as a trained and experienced catechist and lay minister #fundie quora.com

Atheists worship Satan to make a mockery of Christians because they don't want to be bothered with God or God's followers practices, so they mock. However their practices, particular the black masses are not innocuous as they think because they are opening portals to the dark world. We see in Scripture when Judas took of the bread knowing he was planning to betray Jesus. So not discerning the body of Christ. It was during that action Satan entered him. This is a warning to not play around witb God or blaspheming the Holy Spirit. This is the spirit of the antichrist in action in the world. Underneath those layers it's satan trying to get at Jesus. He obviously can't because Jesus overcame Satan once and for all but he can work on people to get them away from Christ.

Jesus came to give life more abundantly and the evil one is a destroyer who brings death.

I'm sticking with Jesus.John 10:10

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Ken Madsen #fundie quora.com

Who assumes the whole earth would have been flooded? The whole world takes on more information after the nature of the world became known.

Your young child might love you more than anything in the whole world, but might not know the first thing about the size and nature of the world.

If you think that is funny try explaining the existence of the Universe including all the failed universes in the multiverse which must have been to account for the perfect balance of this universe getting the gravitation constant just strong enough to group into planets, stars, solar systems, and galaxies and not too strong to collapse everything?

Scientist say the number of failed universes to statistically explain this one getting it right are in the magnitude of 10 to the power of 123.

I believe the above number is larger than the number of atoms in the known universe.

The probability of disbelief is far sketchier than that of belief.

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Little Light Studios #fundie youtube.com

Comic movies continue to dominate at the box office with Marvel emerging as the leader of the pack. In the Marvel universe, each movie showcased different characters by interweaving their lives with a common thread. It ends with them all battling villains who plan to destroy the whole world. It took ten years to complete the whole saga culminating in the last film of the series called 'Endgame'. Each movie has many Biblical themes and uses actual Bible verses in their dialog which reveal there must be a sinister plot behind all the imagery. This episode will not only shock you with the parallels to scripture, but it will also open your eyes to the war between Christ and Satan which is raging all around us. The end of the world is just around the corner and many of these deceptive movies may inspire viewers to war against God. If you have seen any Marvel films, you need to watch this LED Live episode. #Marvel #Theory #ENDGAME

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Minister R. A. Artis #fundie books.google.com

By the time Jonathan was fourteen he had grown physically as well as spiritually and was on his way towards fulfilling the destiny before him. He was taking graduate courses in music, linguistics, mathematics, physics, and theology at the prestigious University of Oxford in Great Britain. Jonathan was even highly recruited by Professor Stephen Hawking, the theoretical physicist and former holder of the Lucasian Chair of Mathematics at Cambridge University, to attend the school and study astrophysics and cosmology. This delighted his father, Jibrail, a world renowned astrophysicist who had worked with Dr. Hawking in the past. Jonathan knew the scriptures and deep matters concerning the nature of God as well as any theologian, thanks to the insight he received from his mentor, Goel.
However, as intelligent as he was, Jonathan was still an adolescent and developmentally prone to recklessness and naivety. This was evident in his relationships with the older students he encountered at Cambridge. He was constantly teased and bullied by some of the older Oxfordians, who were jealous of his great intelligence and the fact he came from a wealthy family, and his heritage. The breaking point was when he was confronted by members of the rugby team, who had been merciless in their torment of him. They had been quelled several times by the presence of his protector, Goel. But rare moments when Goel was not with Jonathan gave the bullies opportunities to strike. It appeared the young scholar was going to be beaten and humiliated like never before, but Jonathan was able, due to his training, to conquer several of the much larger bullies.
Yet, sheer numbers threatened to overwhelm Jonathan, when out of nowhere, unbeknownst to Jonathan, he had an ally who came to his rescue. Together they successfully repelled his attackers. Introducing himself as Alexandru Musatin, he and Jonathan forged a friendship that would last well into adulthood. When Goel learned of this, he flatly refused to acknowledge the friendship between Jonathan and Alexandru for reasons he never fully revealed. The young Musatin, who was seventeen years old, had “a certain darkness about him,” however, the two continued their relationship under the scrutinizing watch of Goel.
Jonathan’s parents had an estate in the beautiful highlands of Scotland near Loch Ness, and during the summer they often stayed there and entertained their closest friends and associates. Throughout his fourteenth year, Jonathan proved time and again how utterly talented and accomplished he was. He had achieved a perfect 4.0 grade point average at Oxford and even attended a course in astrophysics at Cambridge where he simply astounded Professor Hawking with his insights into quantum mechanics and cosmology. His music professors said that his violin and piano playing was, to quote one of them, “…as if he had channeled the abilities of Chopin and Rachmaninoff along with Yitzhak Perlman along with his own unique style to create someone unparalleled in musical abilities.”
Ironically, it was his musical talents that on a particular night would prove to present him with the greatest challenge of his young life. His parents had an outside reception at the ancient Urquhart Castle overlooking the sea. They invited fifty of some of the wealthiest and most influential people in the world to seek their support for the Rabin-Aziz Foundation. People who were shipping magnates, oil tycoons, entertainment personalities, political personages, and those with backgrounds in religion, science and the humanities were the guests. Most importantly, Jonathan was highlighted as the special musical performer. First, Jonathan played Chopin’s Minute Waltz followed by his Etude in C# minor Op.10 No. 4 on the piano. He then amazed them with his interpretation of Rachmaninoff’s Prelude in C# minor Op. 3 No. 2.
Later in the evening he played the Partita in D minor for solo violin by Johann Sebastian Bach, after which he performed Flight of the Bumblebee by Nicolai Rimski-Korsakov. He simply astonished the crowd and his parents with a piece of his own composition he called, The Meeting of Yeshua and Lucifer, inspired by a dream he had of a confrontational conversation between Christ and the Devil. Jonathan received a standing ovation that lasted for several minutes. He took center stage again and played the beautifully composed violin solo for Schindler’s List, which moved the audience to tears. Jonathan received many accolades and high praise for his musicality and academic success from the many guests at his parents’ soiree.
The compliments filled the featured artist’s head with pride. Goel, who had been silent during Jonathan’s performance, noticed the arrogance creeping into the heart of the young man and he pulled him aside to warn him of the consequences of falling prey to haughtiness. Jonathan incredulously retorted back at his mentor that he did not see anything wrong with taking pride in any of his accomplishments. The guardian angel firmly stated that Jonathan should remember the case of Lucifer, who despite his own perfection of design, was the quarry of hubris and fell from grace.
Goel, in fact, was so straightforward with his charge that the reprimand severely wounded Jonathan to the point he fled the angel’s presence. Running down to the shores of Loch Ness, Jonathan’s young heart was filled with anger at his mentor for his harsh chastisement. Jonathan thought that it was nothing wrong with him having a little pride in his abilities. Having all those affluent people praise him delighted and validated him. Even so, Goel’s words rang in his mind.
“Beware of pride in your abilities, Jonathan, for they can be the root of greater transgressions against the Lord. Remember the fall of Lucifer and how his self-importance absorbed and overcame him. Rather than humble himself in front of God by admitting that he was wrong to speak out against Him, he chose to hate God. He threatened to punish God by punishing his Creator and, subsequently, name himself ‘God.’ Had Satan repented and turned from his evil, anti-God practices, God would have forgiven him and restored Lucifer’s former glory and standing. However, Satan’s immense pride would not allow him to ask God for forgiveness. Like him, Jonathan, the Lord has blessed you with many talents and gifts for which others will admire and applaud you. But you must always keep in mind that it is God who deserves all the credit and glory. It is not by your strength but by the grace of the Lord that you can do anything at all and you must acknowledge Him for that.”
As the words of Goel permeated his being, Jonathan was unaware that another presence had crept into his mind. Lucifer himself had decided to take this opportunity to tempt and mesmerize the young prodigy into taking the journey down the road that would lead him to becoming a servant of evil. Speaking to the part of Jonathan’s psyche that desires to be complimented and praised, Lucifer seduces the boy.
“Why shouldn’t you be complimented, Jonathan? You are among the most gifted and talented, and you should be applauded and praised.”
Jonathan struggled within himself to ward off the melodious words that sang so beautifully in his mind as the dark master of evil continued to tickle his mind with honeyed words of affirmation.
“Jonathan, the Lord wants you to be proud of your gifts. You have worked very hard to take what He has given you and make it yours. Be proud and acknowledge your long hours of practice and all the hard work you have done.”
The words of adoration and praise were intoxicating like a strong wine as Lucifer continued his assault on the boy’s fragile ego.
Jonathan sensed that this was not just thoughts being formulated in his mind. He felt the palpable presence of someone near him but unseen.
Jonathan was so sure of this that he said aloud, “I know someone else is here. If there is, make your presence known.”
Surprisingly, Jonathan felt a strong hand on his shoulder, and, in shock, he whirled around to find that right out of the nothingness which surrounded him a figure appeared.
“You do not need to fear me, Jonathan, for I appear to those who seek my counsel.” the figure said coolly.
The form that stood before Jonathan was indeed a solid person and not some wispy apparition. He was male in appearance, tall and beautiful to look upon. He glowed with a light that seemed to come from within his being, but it was his eyes that were the most compelling thing about him. They were a brilliant blue that seemed to penetrate the soul and uncover the innermost secrets that dwelled deep within the human spirit.
Fearfully, yet with a courageousness that surprised even himself, Jonathan slightly stammered, “Hoo— who are you?”
Smiling graciously, the being intoned musically, “I am known by many names. Many I’m sure you have heard of— some maybe unknown to you— for they have been lost in time.”
Looking deeply at the handsome young man, the mysterious being said, “Let us just say I am a friend and for a long time I have waited and watched for you.”
Seeing the confused look on his face the mysterious stranger said, “I know, I know, my young friend. You have a million questions, and trust me, you will have the answers to them all. In brief, let me say in all the myths and legends your species have concocted, they are based on some truth. Since time immemorial I and the members of my race have dwelt among you, some of us in secret, some openly but all with the same curiosity about you humans. My people are from a world that is hundreds of thousands of years more advanced than yours, where the technology is based on ethereal or spiritual energy. We are a race of watchers, where in the multitudes of worlds, we observed and sought for signs of intelligences other than our own. In the infinite vastness of the cosmos we found none. We were about to give up when we found your world, a planetary system rich and teeming with life. But more importantly, we found a young species with unlimited genetic potential and a latent intelligence that would one day rival our own. So, we chose to experiment on your species and created Homo sapiens.”
Incredulously, Jonathan said, “That’s not true! According to the Word of God, Jehovah created man and all there is in the world! Who are you to dispute His Word?!”
Shaking his head at the naiveté of the boy, the being said, “That is what you have been taught to believe in order to keep you blind to the truth and a slave to the will of a less than benevolent god.”
“My names are as many and varied as my history! I am the great Prince Ea of the Mesopotamians, the one who created you and, therefore, your civilization! I am the sun god Ra of the Egyptians, the sustainer of life! I am Sol Invictus, the Unconquered Sun of the Roman Empire! I am Quetzalcoatl, the lord of the morning star of the Aztecs! But you may call me Lucifer, the Enlightened One!”

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Lauren Stratford #fundie books.google.com

Nudity and sexual lewdness and perversion are commonplace at most rituals. It does not matter if the female is willing or unwilling. In fact, it is believed to bring more pleasure to Satan if she is unwilling.
The female "sacrifice" is put on the altar, which is commonly draped with a red velvet cloth (red being the satanic color for anything of a sexual nature). She is raped, oftentimes brutally, by any of the male members who wish to have her. They often are so drugged by heroin, coke, or some other drug, or so bombed out on alcohol, that the rape becomes pure sexual torture. To satisfy their own perverse cravings and do what they think will bestow upon them stronger satanic powers, the male members perform crude sexual acts, often of a bestial-like nature. Sometimes the female is seriously injured physically. To keep her from even thinking about telling the police or anyone else, the high priest calls upon demonic spirits to do something of such a diabolical nature that she will be frightened into silence. She is told that these evil spirits will get her if she steps out of line. And well might she take that threat to heart, for it is not just an empty threat. Those spirits are real!
One time Victor told me about a young housewife and mother who had become bored at home. She accepted an invitation from a couple of her closest friends to attend a meeting. It turned out to be a meeting of witches. At first she was leery, but something kept drawing her back until months later she joined a satanic coven.
In her eagerness to be accepted, and through much coaxing by the other members and a word of admonition from the high priest, she offered herself as the sexual offering at the end of one of the rituals. As is often the case, the woman was put through more than what she could excuse as part of a religious ceremony.
That night when she went home, she suffered some physical complications. She phoned one of the two friends who had invited her to the initial meeting and told her she was going to the hospital to be examined. She asked the friend if she would come over and babysit her children, since her husband was away on a business trip.
The friend told her she would come over, but reminded her of her vow to secrecy and warned her that she might regret it if she told anyone what had happened. The young housewife told her friend that she didn't care—that she couldn't live this kind of life any longer. She would rather die than go through anything like that again.
So the friend came over. The victim started her car and drove toward the hospital. But she never made it. She died instantly in a grisly car accident. One of the police officers on the scene told the victim's husband that he had never seen a freak accident quite like that before. He couldn't explain how or why it had happened. In fact, from all he could determine, it shouldn't have happened at all.
When Victor reached this point in the story, he put his hand up to the side of his mouth and secretly said, "What the policeman didn't know was that the lady's friend had called the high priest before she went over to babysit and told him that they were about to be ratted on." Victor went on to relate how the high priest had summoned an evil spirit to place a curse on her that would cause her to die in whatever manner it chose before she reached the hospital.
To my disgust, Victor stuck out his chest and proudly announced, "You know what? It worked! The screws [cops] won't ever know what happened."
That kind of incident was not as unusual as one would like to think, and they were all too eagerly recounted to any victim who gave even the slightest indication that she might cause trouble. Understandably, the stories were most effective.
A New Business
The sexual perversion during satanic rituals interested Victor not only as a high priest, but also as a pornographer. He was an astute businessman, and it didn't take him long after he was installed as a high priest to recognize that there could be a very lucrative marriage between his rituals and hardcore porn. There was sure to be a market for such heretofore-unknown types of films and videos. There could hardly be too much blood and gore. There could hardly be too loud a scream of pain and agony. There could hardly be too much mutilation. There could hardly be too much partaking of the flesh of sacrificed body parts or too much drinking of blood that was drained into a crucible.
These films, videos, and photographs were not sold to the stereotyped "dirty old man" in seedy porno shops. Victor marketed them to doctors, lawyers, corporate businessmen, and high-level political figures. Only they could afford the thousand dollars per photo or the five to twenty thousand dollars per film or video. The more barbaric, cold-blooded, and unrestrained the acts of Satan were, the more Victor could get for the film. In fact, the more diabolical they were, the greater the demand.
Because I was Victor's "woman," I was privy to information that most of the other victims never learned. Occasionally I'm sure I heard discussions that were not intended for my ears; in fact, I wished I had not heard them. But Victor was very proud of his little empire. He was fond of bragging about how he had started with nothing. If you didn't know better, you could easily get misty-eyed listening to stories of his boyhood poverty. Then with a sweeping gesture of his arm, after making you feel so sorry for him, he would boast, "And now all of this is mine. All mine!"
One evening he had had too much to drink. As he was boasting about his accomplishments to me, the phone rang. When he answered it, he forgot that I was there. It was obvious to me that he was talking to someone he knew quite well. They were discussing the buying and selling of some of his photos and films.
"Look, Bud," Victor said impatiently, "You're offering peanuts for a product that's worth more than gold. Do you know what the market is? These are one-of-a-kind. You won't find them anywhere else. So stop playing dumb with me!"
For the next few minutes, sums in the thousands of dollars were bandied about. "All right, fifteen thousand for that one," Victor agreed. "You drive a hard bargain."
Once during the discussion, I jerked in my chair in response to what he was saying. Victor looked up and suddenly realized I was still in the room. "Get out of here and shut the door behind you," he barked.

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Lauren Stratford #fundie books.google.com

In the following months as Victor progressed deeper into satanism, his interest in pornography took a back seat. Learning the powers of Satan became his new "profession," as he called it. Each time I was taken to his home, Victor told me a new story about what he had seen in a ritual. At first the rituals seemed fairly innocent, and I wasn't too frightened. There was fire changing colors and ghostly apparitions coming out of the smoke. Bodies were levitated. Objects were moved by the power of the mind. Once he even described how the powers of Satan (which he always insisted were good powers) had healed a woman who was dying. The high priest had used magic to make the cancerous tumor come out of her body. "She coughed it up," said Victor. "I saw it with my own eyes!" Initially I thought that all my fears might have been for nothing. But gradually the stories became more sordid. When he told me about a ritual in which a young pregnant woman had sold herself to Satan, I knew there was nothing "good" about satanism. "If only you'd been there, Lauren," he said with great animation. His wild excitement in simply recalling what he saw made him act as if he were high on drugs. "The woman was so brave. She just held her arm out and let the high priest cut her wrist. She let the blood drain into a chalice, and then do you know what she did? She sold her soul to Satan. She used her own blood to sign her name on the pact! You had to be there. You just can't get the same feeling by my telling you about it. You have to be there to see it and feel it for yourself! "

Victor's words were spilling at high speed. When he stopped long enough to grab a breath, I blurted, "Stop it! I don't want to hear anymore about it. Please, don't tell me any more." "Oh, but you've got to listen, Lauren, because I'm going to do the same thing, and you're going to be with me." I felt as if I would choke on his words. Before I had time to even begin to deal with his declaration, he raced on. "This is going to blow you away, woman. Listen to this! The high priest prayed this really weird prayer. He asked the demons to come forth. I couldn't see them, but I guess they did because he started to talk to them. He asked them to give this woman's baby a name because Satan was going to be its father." Victor paced the floor as he spoke, walking faster and faster. The way his eyes darted around the room, it was as though he could see the ritual taking place right in front of him. Then suddenly he stopped dead in his tracks and lowered his voice, as though he didn't want anyone else to hear him. "Lauren, when the high priest asked the demons what the baby was to be named, I heard the most eerie-sounding voices I've ever heard. I thought, 'Someday I'm going to have the power to make demons talk to me.' Then the high priest spoke a name to the woman, but I couldn't understand what it was."

He started pacing again as he said, "Do you know what the woman did next? She sold her baby's soul to Satan too, by signing its name beneath hers on the pact. Doesn't that just blow you away —selling your soul to Satan? Do you know how much power I could have if I did that!" With that exclamation he raised his clenched fists into the air as though he were celebrating a great victory. I knew then that there was no turning back for Victor. He was headed straight into the hands of Satan, and he intended to take me along with him. This would be different from the studio and the house of torture. Here the rules weren't clearly defined. I didn't know what to expect. High Priest of Satan Victor was faithful to his promise that I would go with him to a satanic ritual. What I didn't expect was that it would be in his own house. "Guess what?" he said one evening with a wicked smile. "I am now a high priest. A high priest of Satan!" He motioned for me to follow him and we descended through a cellar-type door in his floor to the basement. I had not even been aware that there was a basement; a rug had covered the entrance. The basement was cold, damp, and dark, with a musty smell. A heavy, eerie feeling pervaded the atmosphere and seemed to settle on me as I entered, making it hard to breathe. "You can feel him!" declared Victor in a hushed voice. "That's Satan!" Satan may appear as an angel of light at times, but in Victor's basement there was only darkness. The walls were draped in black fabric, and the only light was from candles and the glow of a black kettle on the floor. I stared at a large slab of smooth rock that was partially covered with a purple-colored velvet material. "That's the altar," Victor explained. Then he pointed to a silver bowl. "That's the chalice that we drink from—our communion cup." Then he pointed to a cross. "It's placed upside down to mock the crucifixion of Jesus Christ."

A glance around the room revealed other objects. There was a goat's head positioned at the front of the altar. I saw an upside- down star within a circle drawn on top of the altar. And to the side was the black kettle. "That's the cauldron," Victor whispered. "Demons are summoned from the fires of hell that are burning in I shuddered, for its glow seemed like a silent omen, it." foreshadowing the very activities of hell. As my eyes adjusted to the darkness, I saw the glint of the blade of a very large sword that was lying on the end of the altar. A terrifying thought—what do they do with the sword?—raced through my mind. I quickly shifted my eyes, afraid that Victor would notice and explain what it was for. Right now I didn't want to know. In fact, I didn't think I ever wanted to know. As I tried to calm my racing heart, a door suddenly opened on the opposite side of the basement, and black-robed men, humming in unison, slowly moved in single file to the altar. Victor tugged at my arm, but I didn't budge. I wasn't about to go anywhere, unless it back up stairs.

The humming stopped abruptly and was replaced by chanting, "All hail to the father, Satan. All hail to the father, Satan. All hail .. " While the chanting proceeded, one of the men who was cloaked in a black cape over his robe walked over to the sword and picked it up. "He's a high priest like I am," Victor whispered. As the high priest pointed the sword to the north, south, east, and west, I shuddered as I began to wonder why Victor had brought me down here to witness a ritual. My wondering soon became terror. Spirits were conjured up to curse certain people whom the members wanted harmed. Other spirits were called on to give the coven members more power. Several of the members allowed their wrists to be cut, and the blood was drained into the silver bowl. Then they urinated into it. Finally, wine was mixed in and they each drank from the bowl. Now these robed men began to get unruly. Gone was the initial sense of hushed decorum. I wasn't sure if they were drunk or high on drugs, or if they actually were receiving some kind of supernatural power from the demon spirits they had summoned.

They began to indulge in what looked to me like a sexual orgy. I was surprised to see two or three women. I wasn't sure whether they were coven members, or if they had been brought in just for the orgy. Whatever the case, I had seen enough, but as I turned to try and go back up the stairs, I felt Victor's grip tighten around my arm. "You can't leave!" he hissed. "I'm giving you to Satan tonight." With every ounce of my energy I jerked to try and get free of his grip. But Victor was too strong. He pulled me up to the altar, and two coven members lifted me onto the slab of stone. My clothes were removed and I was positioned and held down so that my private parts were on top of the circle and upside down star. I screamed and begged the men to let me go. But the more I screamed, the more excited they seemed. "Louder. Louder. Satan is pleased," they chanted.

Then the abuse began. One after another, members of the coven brutally abused me sexually on the altar. After each one was through, he drank from the bowl of blood, urine, and wine and announced, "Satan is pleased." With each vulgar act, my will to resist lessened. I felt myself weakening physically, as though I would pass out. As each man climbed on me, I felt as if Satan himself were assaulting me.

Finally, after the last man had taken his turn, the high priest picked up the bowl, took a drink from it, then flung the remainder of it over my body. With that he threw his head back and laughingly mocked, "Satan has had you!" The entire coven picked up the chant. "Satan has had you. Satan has had you. Satan has had you." My spirit was crushed. I was too weak to move, too bruised and ashamed. Finally I was lifted off the altar and returned to the arms of Victor. As he carried me up the stairs, he proudly declared, "Now we both belong to Satan." But that was not true. Silently my heart spoke for me: "I will never belong to Satan. Never!"

Coven Members

Those who put on the black robes, who stood in a circle, who lit candles and uttered unending chants until they saw the very face of Satan—they were not surprised at the fiendishly diabolical acts that were sure to follow. For it was those very acts that would please their father, Satan, and bring more power to them. These participants were not players in a game. They were not there to have fun. One does not play with Satan. Neither does one have fun with Satan. One follows Satan. One serves Satan. In obedience to him, one does Satan's bidding. The evil practices of the satanic rituals I was forced to attend and participate in were not performed in symbolism. They were actually carried out. Those who practiced them were serious about their deeds of evil. Their allegiance to Satan was absolute. They were there to follow Satan explicitly, uncompromisingly, without question, even when he demanded sacrifices of parts of their own bodies. They willingly allowed the tip of a finger down to the first knuckle to be cut off as a sacrificial offering. There was great motivation to do this, for these members believed that through this show of loyalty they would please Satan and experience more power, fulfillment, satisfaction, and success in their own lives. Evil begets evil. Perversion begets perversion. Acts of sadism, sexual abuse, torture, mutilation, and evils that go far beyond that generate a craving for participation in deeper and deeper evils. Satan does not take pleasure in good. The name of his game is evil, and as the members of many of the more self-styled satanic covens find out, one must always top last week's acts of evil. To gain more power and continue to please their hellish father, one must eventually go beyond even what the human mind can conceive. Only the Father of Evil could conceive such diabolical acts of perversion and wickedness, and only the Father of Evil could seduce a human being to carry out such acts. I heard demonic spirits order deeds of such a heinous nature that even the bravest would cringe. Usually I heard only the voices, but on a few occasions I saw the demons materialize. Sometimes they took on the most hideous and grotesque forms imaginable. Usually, however, they appeared as ghostly apparitions with a vaporlike quality that I couldn't quite decipher. At one ritual, several demonic spirits appeared as hairy little creatures with sharp, pointed teeth and eyes that I felt were looking straight through me. Another time an evil spirit appeared as a slinky, slimy creature that looked like it was about to wrap itself around me and cling to me. Regardless of whether they chose to materialize or not, when the demons spoke, Satan worshipers listened and obeyed. I heard demons order curses of the vilest nature—cancerous growths, even acts of suicide—put on unsuspecting victims. They ordered acts of sexual perversion that went far beyond the descriptions of lewd, perverse, and vile. They ordered the literal sacrifice of animals and even humans—both willing and unwilling victims. You may wonder how any human being could actually carry out the orders of such evils and feel that he has done what is right and good. I wrestled with that question myself, for I did feel that some of the members sincerely believed that what they were doing was right. One day, years later, while reading my Bible at home, I found a verse that answered that question for me. Speaking of Satan, John 8:44b says that "there is no truth in him . . . he is a liar and the father of lies" (NIV). From what I had seen and learned about satanism, that verse was true. I began to realize that Satan has never told the truth, but is such a master of deception that the coven members who opened their hearts and minds to Satan's schemes were blinded to the truth. Good became evil and evil became good. Once they gave themselves over to that false truth, all barriers to evil were destroyed. The door to the most diabolical evil was opened wide.

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Pat Robertson #fundie www1.cbn.com


What Is Demon Possession?

Demon possession is the seizure of a human being by a demonic being to such a degree that the individual is controlled in whole or in part by the demon (see Matthew 8:28-32, Mark 1:23-27, Mark 7:24-30, Luke 9:37-42).

The person who is demon possessed can manifest demonic qualities one minute and then be back in his right mind the next. The disease known as schizophrenia could, in certain individuals, be demon possession. This could be the case in instances where the person may speak in different voices and act in bizarre ways. One minute he could be a nice, calm, normal individual, and the next minute he could rage, foam at the mouth, and speak in an entirely different voice, blaspheming God.

In certain instances, demon-possessed individuals hear voices--voices that tell them to kill somebody, commit suicide, or undertake various kind of sins. Such people may have an uncontrollable lust. They may have an uncontrollable desire to have harm done to themselves. Masochism and sadism and other perverted sex practices are, in many instances, the result of demon possession.

Demon possession can be manifested in many ways. But the goal of demons is to debase, defile, and ultimately destroy a human being who is made in the image of God. That is what Satan wants to do: Attack God by destroying people who are precious in God's sight. However, people who serve Satan--the satanists and devil worshipers--will eventually be destroyed by that which they worship.

It is interesting to note that those who volunteer to serve Satan--the fortunetellers, spiritists, witches, warlocks, and satanists--are themselves consumed by Satan. Not only will they share Satan's ultimate punishment by God, but they will be tormented and debased by Satan himself prior to final judgment.

Excerpt taken from Answers to 200 of Life's Most Probing Questions, Copyright 1984 by Pat Robertson.

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Minister R. A. Artis #fundie books.google.com

Jonathan looked at the being that had just said his name was Lucifer, the enemy of mankind. The still vulnerable youngster stood in absolute shock and disbelief. Lucifer observed the young man intently, knowing that his mind was trying desperately to ascertain the gravity of his presence along with what he had just told him. Being the absolute master of conniving deception and charisma, Lucifer set in motion his devious scheme to coerce the boy to his dark light and vision.
Smiling magnanimously, Lucifer placed his hand on Jonathan’s shoulder and, with a quiet compassion, said, “I know this sounds incredible, Jonathan, but everything you hold dear is comprised of half-truths and carefully disguised lies.” Glowing with an ethereal luminance, Lucifer continued, “Let me explain from the beginning…”
“The world from which we abide is called Nahash, located around the star you call Alnilam, the center star in the belt of the constellation Orion. Our world developed our intelligence billions of years before yours, and we achieved a level of development where we evolved into pure energy. Our thoughts could be translated into whatever we could conceive. One of us achieved a power and intelligence greater than all and began to reshape the cosmos into his image. He became so powerful he was able to contract the entire universe into one small infinitesimally dense microscopic singularity and release all that enormous energy in what you call the ‘Big Bang.’ This enabled him to reform the universe as he saw fit. His name is Yahweh, the being you refer to as God.”
Jonathan was rocked to the core of his being as he interrupted Lucifer’s explanation, “Wait one moment! You mean to tell me that Yahweh, though powerful, may not be the God we hold as the Supreme Creator?!”
Smiling at the deductive reasoning and high intelligence the young man showed, Lucifer continued, “That is correct, Jonathan. Yahweh is indeed powerful and to you he may appear to be omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, but, in essence he is not God in the sense you perceive God. In the vastness of creation, there are levels of omnipotence that you cannot conceive of in your present stage of development. There are many dimensions of existence in what is called the multiverse which is housed within the omniverse, the conceptual ensemble of all possible universes with all possible laws of physics. Yahweh is only the present manifestation of the Creator Force of this universe. There is, however, a being that is known to those who have attained a certain level of awareness who is the essence and intelligence of the omniverse, and he is referred to as the One Above All.”
“Let me continue, the One Above All decreed that all universes and realities be created, destroyed, and re-created in an eternally repetitive series of cycles for reasons known only to Him. Yahweh decided that instead of being the avatar of the One Above All, he would separate this universe from Himself and create his own cosmos with his own rules. The first thing Yahweh did was to create a pocket dimension he called Heaven, located in the recesses of the Northern quadrant of this universe. He then took the rest of the Nahashians and made them into the hierarchy of angelic beings. I was the first evidence of his creative genius, and he made me the epitome of his splendor, power, and wisdom. I and the rest of the host spent countless eons worshipping Yahweh as matter and time coalesced into its present form.”
“Yahweh then turned his attention to Earth and saw that one of the primitive ape-like creatures had unlimited intelligence and genetic potential. He wanted me to experiment on them. This experimentation took millions of years until I finally created Homo sapiens, who were designed from the very essence of Yahweh. Yahweh was so impressed with my handiwork he imbued man with a fraction of his divine spark that gave man a soul. This surprised and shocked many of the angels, as well as myself, who were confused as to the reason why Yahweh wanted to have created this new race of beings.
“Yahweh gave no reason only that we should be patient and trust him and for a time this was sufficient. However, I discovered that Yahweh intended for man to be a race of slaves, and I did not want this for I had become fond of man. I vehemently criticized Yahweh’s plan, accusing him of lacking vision and benevolence. I decided to collect evidence to persuade Yahweh that humanity deserved to be free to discover their place in the universe and to reach their own potential without the encumbering laws he had created to bind humanity to his oppressive will.
“You see, Jonathan, Yahweh desired all humanity to be his slaves and ignorant to the truth that freedom from his laws bring. I, on the other hand, desired man to have knowledge of self and have his mind opened to realization of that knowledge. Yahweh and I became estranged because of this ideological conflict and so, when in the Garden of Eden, where humanity’s primordial parents, Adam and Eve, the first of Homo sapiens, were told not to eat of the Tree of Knowledge, which was not an actual fruit but a metaphor for forbidden knowledge. Yahweh kept this information hidden from them like in the legend of Prometheus, who stole fire from the gods to give to man. I informed them that their nakedness represented Yahweh’s desire to keep them enslaved because of the threat they represented.
“Yahweh knew that one day man would become as powerful as Himself, and they would become a threat to His reign. Adam and Eve felt degraded by this revelation, and they rebelled against Yahweh who punished them by introducing death, pain, and suffering into the universe to keep them imprisoned to his will. Yahweh then made me the perpetrator of this egregious crime and formulated the legend of Satan and the birth of evil.”
“By this time, the barrier between Yahweh and me had become a full-fledged war, and a third of Heaven had taken up my cause to liberate man. I challenged Yahweh that he was far too removed from man to see how pain and anguish motivated Him to strive for meaning to His mortal existence. I demanded that if He truly wished to understand Himself then He should take human form. Angered by this, Yahweh chose to replicate himself and created Jesus Christ, whom He endowed with all His power. Jesus was fully human at the same time. I challenged Yahweh to experience human passions and desires through Jesus, and this He did by becoming familiar with the mortality of suffering and eventual death. I was awed and shocked by Yahweh’s decision to allow Jesus to die, supposedly as a sacrifice for man’s ‘transgression’ in the Garden of Eden; however, the truth of the matter was— and is— Jesus’ sacrifice was in vain.
“You see, the human spirit is so powerful that at death it resides either in an unconscious state within the body or in an extradimensional limbo. Some await rebirth, while those select few who have lived extraordinary lives are granted oneness with the One Above All, to exist eternally as part of the living spiritual intelligence of the omniverse. Jesus’ sacrifice to atone for sin was another clever ruse to keep humankind enslaved to the will of Yahweh. You see, unlike a regular human, when Jesus, who was Yahweh in human form, died on the cross, He knew that he would survive and thus could never have known the true suffering of man. Man does not know his soul will survive. It suffers, and in this ambiguity, man is granted a gift which Yahweh does not understand: the passion to cling to life and the strength that mortality affords you. Yahweh knew He would survive death and could not truly know what it was to be human.”
Lucifer decided it was time to twist the truth a little more in order to place another shred of doubt in Jonathan’s mind.
Feigning reluctance, Lucifer took a deep breath and vehemently said, “What I am about to divulge to you, Jonathan, is known only to very few. And if Yahweh knew I was telling you this He would most certainly destroy you. Heaven is not what you think. Yahweh created it in an effort to shield his presence from the One Above All and developed the myth that all human souls would subject themselves to his servitude. He formulated that they would abide there with Him after the death of their corporeal forms. The truth is, the only entities present in Heaven are those angelic Nahashians who are in Yahweh’s service, and Hell is another scare tactic He uses to keep his victims enslaved. Heaven and Hell can be on Earth and is how you live your life, Jonathan. You can either live your life a slave to the whims and wishes of a cruel and brutish god, or you can choose to have the blinders lifted from your eyes and see the light of the truth.”
Drawing himself closer to the young man’s beautiful face, Lucifer compassionately said, “Jonathan, Yahweh knows as well as I that humankind has evolved more quickly than anticipated. The latent abilities we foresaw in you will become evident in less than a generation instead of the centuries we thought, and, you my friend, are one of the first of those blessed to become the next stage of human development.
“Homo sapiens are evolving into gods, capable of all manner of wonders and miracles. Your race will transform the universe and I will help you to do so, for this is my desire, to help humans become like me and exist as independent entities, enslaved by no one. I will lead you to your glorious future and together we will topple Yahweh’s destructive and self-serving regime!”
Pleadingly, Lucifer reached out his hand to Jonathan and beseeched him, “Will you help me, Jonathan? Will you take your place at my side and expose Yahweh for what He is?”
Jonathan reeled from the sheer magnitude of all that he had heard and seen as he contemplated everything Lucifer had told him. Was it true that Yahweh was some sort of super alien being and everything he had learned concerning him was a lie designed to keep man from achieving his destiny? Was it Lucifer and not Christ the Messiah who was and Savior of mankind? Was it his destiny to help expose the truth of this to the world?
The young man sighed as he said as if he was weighed down by the entire world’s problems compounded doubly, “This is all so fantastic. I don’t know what to think, or do. I have to consider what to do with all that you have told me.”
Smiling graciously, Lucifer said, “I understand Jonathan. I realize I have placed a tremendous burden on you, but remember, fate rarely calls upon us at a time of our choosing, yet when it does, will you be ready? I will not force you Jonathan. You will have to decide for yourself what to do with what I have told you. Truth is a dangerous thing my friend, for once you have learned from it, you can never go back to who you were. Stay blind and in darkness and remain a slave, or take what I given you and free the world.”
Lucifer slowly disappeared and said in passing, “When the time comes, I shall return unto you and it will be then you will chose either to stand with me or against me. Farewell, until then …”
The sound of Lucifer’s voice echoed into the night sky as he vanished from sight and left Jonathan alone on the shores of Loch Ness.
The Scotland summer wind wafted over the waters of the famous lake and drifted over Jonathan, caressing his body with its warm light touch, as he tried desperately to make sense of what had just transpired. His entire world had been turned upside down and the teachings he had once held dear may all be a part of a carefully conceived lie invented by an immensely powerful alien who wished to maintain a dictatorial hold on humankind in order to prevent them from evolving into a super race that had the potential to bring his tyrannical rule to an end and restore the universe to the care of the One Above All, if everything Lucifer had told him was true. In his mind, Jonathan thought that this was all some form of hallucination, but if it was, then what caused it? He knew in his rational mind that this was indeed a true and real occurrence, but to what purpose? He was well aware that his gifts and talents made him stand apart, but was he so exceptional that he merited the attention of not only God, but that of Lucifer as well? Was Lucifer truly the evil entity he was portrayed to be, or was he indeed the being who truly created humans and the true Savior of mankind? Was he the benefactor of human civilization and not the perpetrator of malevolence and wickedness history showed him to be? These questions and many, many more raced through his mind as he looked over the waters of Loch Ness. The words which Lucifer spoke to him were the most compelling declarations he had ever heard and they carried a ring of truth, but, like strong black coffee, there was a bitterness that hung over him. Had Lucifer told him the truth or was he being the consummate liar he was said to be and was this an attempt to have him become a disciple of iniquity?
Falling to his knees, Jonathan cried out in a loud voice, “God, help me! What am I going to do?! I can’t handle this! It is too much for me to bear!”
The tears that flowed from his eyes dripped down his face and rained upon the ground as he wept in confusion and pain. All of a sudden, the waters of Loch Ness began to churn and great waves were thrown ferociously against the shores and broke Jonathan from his cries to God. The agitation grew more intense as the young man looked in confusion and wonder at what was occurring in front of him. What more could happen to him this night? Suddenly a great serpentine form exploded from the frothing disorder of the waters and released a deafening roar that chilled Jonathan to the very core of his being. Fearfully, Jonathan wondered if this was the famed Loch Ness Monster of legend.

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Reinert Zerker #fundie youtube.com

You people hate the very thing that landed you where you are. You mistake your lack of responsibilities as absolute purity, which is hilarious. Unappreciative, with all the knowledge in the world and you probably watch Epic Fail videos. The only villainous thing God ever did was permitting your idiocy flourish and infect the world. No different from the selfish followers of Christ, yet you ironically oppose God. Oh the Humanity.

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Gerald R. Thompson #fundie lonang.com

I used to wonder why the nations would rage against God, but no longer. Today days of rage’ are common throughout the world, and there is no shortage of people who hate Jehovah and Jesus. God’s response? Jesus will rule over them with a rod of iron, in other words, rule them harshly against their will. God will not oppress the people, but He will not let them practice evil, and to their sin natures it will seem like oppression.

And why do the nations rage? Is it because they reject the Gospel and Jesus as Savior? No, it is because they want to get out from under the cords and bonds, i.e., restraints placed on them by God. Which is to say, the nations want to get out from under God’s law, because it is the law which constrains. It is no coincidence that the Antichrist will be called the lawless one. 2 Thes. 2:3-9. The main goal of the forces of evil is to escape the constraints of God’s laws.

Just imagine: during the Millennium, no one will be able to open a casino, start a house of worship for the moon-god, or become a recognized sex worker. All LGBT(QIA) activities (which are simply differing methods of engaging in homosexuality) will be banned. “Community organizing” will finally be recognized for what it is: rabble-rousing and meddling in nobody’s business, and be prohibited, notwithstanding the seal of approval of former Presidents.

No one will be allowed to openly promote or engage in pornography, idolatry, abortion, bribery and corruption, or a host of other profitable vices and sins. They will all be shut down. All the purveyors and teachers of false religions, humanism, atheism, materialism and evolution will go back into the closet for a thousand years. And unbelievers won’t be happy about it. Instead of tolerating and winking at vice, the Millennial kingdom will actually eliminate all public vice.

I don’t mean to suggest that all forms of sin will be eliminated – it won’t. I daresay many of the worst vices will continue to exist out of the public eye and in secret. Human nature and temptation will exist and continue during the Millennium as they do now.

But anyone practicing vice will have to do it at great personal peril, and this will be a vast change from our current situation. Those who wish to do evil will be frustrated at every turn, and that frustration will seethe and rage within them so that they bring themselves to the boiling point rather than repent and turn to Christ. They will instead plot in secret to overturn God’s rule of the earth.

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Rusty Entrekin, B. A. Biblical & Theological Studies, Louisiana College (1986) #fundie quora.com

Persecution of Christians worldwide is on the rise. The communists are clamping down on house churches now in China. Muslims are murdering Christians in Nigeria, taking their homes, capturing their daughters and forcing them to marry Muslim men. In the Middle East, violent anti-christian sentiment is on the rise. Christians are subject to being falsely accused of blasphemy at any time. In India, Hindu extremists are forcing Christians out of their homes and causing them to live under trees.

Here in the U.S., the anti-Christian ideologies are gaining power and this is already resulting in persecution against Christian business owners such as the owners of Sweetcakes by Melissa, who were forced to close, and corporate executives such as Brendan Eich, who was forced to resign.

However, the pulpits in the US have mostly been silent about these things. Why? Big church pastors feel pressure to keep their messages positive and services uplifting, lest church attendance fall and they be unable to pay their bills. Christians are afraid to speak up, too, lest they be targeted and lose their jobs. The tactics of intimidation and bullying are working, placing fear in Christians and even pastors about openly speaking up concerning sexual morality.

In addition, it is so easy to be distracted by TV, the internet, and all of the other forms of entertainment and pleasure so freely available to us here in America.

In Gulliver's travels, Gulliver slept while the Lilliputians wove strings around him. The American church is also sleeping while our enemies do the same to us. We are a giant and have the power to stop it, if only we would rouse ourselves from our comfortable sleep. We can use our political and economic leverage to bring an end to much of the persecution happening overseas. We can re-assert our rights to freedom of speech and religion. We can also re-assert the vital importance of sexual purity. But we must arise and do so before it is too late! Otherwise, our enemies will keep weaving strings around us. Then when we finally try to escape, it will be too late and we will be unable to get up.

Edmond Burke said, “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”

Allie Stuckey said, “In a world of wickedness, weak men are nothing more than enablers of wicked men.”

The respite from persecution that the Western church has enjoyed is beginning to draw to a close. The door will be completely closed if we do not rouse ourselves and dare to start speaking up. And we will only have ourselves to blame for it.

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Robert Escandon, B.A. Philosophy & Psychology, The University of Texas at El Paso (2005), #fundie quora.com

You answered your own question. The Canaanites sacrificed their children to their god, Molech. The way they would do it is they would place a toddler on the hands of a statue of Molech that has been over fire which made the hands red hot; the Canaanites would let the child scream until it died on those red hot hands as a sacrifice despite God (the true God) warning them to stop. After about a hundred years, God ordered the elimination of the Canaanites through Joshua. God stopped the evil of killing innocent children yet God is constantly criticized for stopping that evil by the very same people who claim God won’t stop the evils of the world today.

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Richard Sigmund #fundie books.google.com

There are areas in heaven that are prophetic: they depict things to come. I saw the black tornado of judgment. I saw revival and judgment.
There was a prophetic area that had a landscape that looked like Colorado, with mountains, trees, rocks, and rivers. It had a white-pine pulpit. Two fists came through the sky between the Shekinah glory. The right hand was gold: God’s blessing. The left hand was steel: God’s judgment.
Seven Prophetic Signs
I saw the Falls of God’s Glory, one stream of water falling into vapor on earth. We on earth can rise up to that level. We can rise into the mist of the Falls of God’s Glory. And I saw the Tidal Wave: the last great move of God. It was seven tiers tall. Prophetically, I was told seven signs:
The last great move of God will be in out-of-the-way places, day and night.
Signs and wonders will increase and be fought against.
Laws of physics will be suspended so that the miraculous can flow.
Laws of time and space will be made known to men.
Knowledge of man will increase and never be based on fleshly things.
Sevenfold tidal wave: the last great move of God breaking on the shores of eternity; the greatest part will be poured out in rural areas; “I seek My bride in humble places; I was born in a stable.”
“Awareness is given My people in days and weeks just before My return.”
Mass multitudes will be involved in this revival, which will be through people who give all praise to the Lord. It is coming to root out and destroy the phony. It will keep the faithful, and it will be the introduction to the coming of Christ.
Amphitheaters of Promises
I saw Abraham’s amphitheater. It was like a football arena, only hundreds of times larger. There was a cloud in the “playing field” area. In the cloud, I could see all the promises that have come to pass for and because of Abraham. The promises were for the entire world, not just for the Jews. (See Acts 2:38–39.)
There were what looked like two to three million seats with names on them. People had specific promises—promises related to David’s throne and the lineage of kings.
Each of the patriarchs had an amphitheater. The angels helped people to remember the promises.
On the way to the Throne, I saw the Amphitheater of David. I didn’t go into his building, but I knew about it when I went by. Somehow, I sensed in my spirit, I knew—in heaven, you just know things—that was where David and his descendants went to see their promises coming to pass. But everyone is welcome.
I saw a building in the shape of a castle like a cornucopia, or a horn of plenty. It was a Prayer Center. Angels were traveling in and out of the archway at the “speed of light.” To go through the archway was to go into the presence of God. The angels were carrying golden censers that carried prayers. They held them by the bowls of the censers. The prayers are precious cargo and are treated as such. No prayer goes unanswered—even wrong prayer. The prayers are brought before the face of God.
Instantly, the angels go back for more.
Fields of Supernatural Supply
I was taken to an area where I looked down upon what looked like millions and millions of acres under cultivation. There are huge fields of grain in heaven that are constantly moving in the breeze. They are a supernatural supply for others of various kinds. There is a heavenly harvest that is prophetic.
At one time in my grandfather’s life, he had some land that he had set aside to pay tithes. When he didn’t have cash, he used the income from the crops grown on that land to support his church. A drought came: corn wouldn’t grow; beans wouldn’t grow. So, he planted wheat in this land because he determined that wheat would grow in pretty dry circumstances. That year of drought, the “tithe” land produced stalks of wheat that were seven feet tall. The people in the area saw and could not explain what had happened except that it was the hand of God. Some said it was a species of wheat they had never seen before. The harvest from that field, by itself, filled the local grain elevator. That is the wheat I saw in heaven.
I saw what seemed like thousands and thousands of trees filled with fruit. Multitudes of people were coming and picking fruit and taking it away in baskets. They took it to their homes in heaven.
There is also a bank in heaven—our bank. This is how it works: Every time you give anything, it is recorded in heaven. Angels go to a doorway with a slip. They receive golden coins and bring them to earth. The coins are c hanged to what we need on earth. These are supernatural finances.
Horses in Heaven
The book of Revelation tells us that the Lord will return riding a white horse. (See Revelation 6:2; Revelation 19:11–16.) I have often wondered about that. What would a white horse from heaven actually look like?
I was taken to an area where there were supernatural, horselike creatures. Some of them had wings. Some had abilities that we don’t have on earth. They could walk on the air if they needed to.
I saw thousands of chariots and beautiful horses to pull them. All the horses I saw were entirely white. They had red hoofs: fiery, crimson-red hoofs. And huge nostrils. They were about ten to fifteen times bigger than the biggest horses I have ever seen on earth, and they were all muscle, no fat. There was no horse byproduct to clean up, and I don’t think they ever ate. They were there for a specific purpose. Some of it had to do with the rapture of the church. The prophet Elijah was taken up to heaven in a fiery chariot. (See 2 Kings 2:9–11.) And I can tell you there was a chariot there that was the Lord’s. It was bigger and nicer than the rest, and it was pulled by the most awesome steed.
There were other supernatural animals, also. I saw a beast that had the body of a giant bull, the neck of a camel, and the head of a horse. An angel was sitting on it. I was not told its purpose.

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Ted Baehr #fundies charismanews.com

A Christian media watchdog group has launched a campaign against a new movie based on the book jesus of nazareth that depicts Jesus' birth as the result of the Virgin Mary being raped by a Roman soldier.

Paul Verhoeven, the Dutch director known for "RoboCop," "Show Girls," and "Basic Instinct" is slated to direct the film. Verhoeven is also a member of the Jesus Seminar, a group of laymen and scholars that question the truthfulness of the gospels and the miracles of Jesus.

"The liberal media's relentless persecution of the Christian faith shows yet again the double standard of bigotry. There's no way a similar movie would ever be made claiming Muhammad was the product of a rape," says Ted Baehr, founder of the Christian Film & Television Commission, which launched the campaign.

The movie depicts the life of Jesus, but unlike other Biblical epics jesus of nazareth shows Jesus performing no miracles, born as the result of rape, and when Jesus dies He does not come back from the grave.

Paul Verhoeven, the writer of jesus of nazareth is no stranger to offending Christians with statements intended to bully and browbeat: "In my opinion, Christianity is nothing more than one of many interpretations of reality, neither more nor less. Ideally, it would be nice to believe that there is a God somewhere out there, but it looks to me as if the whole Christian religion is a major symptom of schizophrenia in half the world's population: civilizations scrambling to rationalize their chaotic existence. Subsequently, Christianity has a tendency to look like magic or the occult."

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Zyad Kadri #fundie quora.com

The unforgivable sin can only be realized by a committed and persistent state of mind. To deny the witness of the Holy Spirit knowingly, understanding exactly what it is being revealed to you and rejecting it time and again, now in mortality and into eternity, is persistent and committed.

As I’ve read one time, it is akin to seeing the sun shining in the sky at noon-day and denying its presence. Perhaps even cursing it. The sun still shines, but the benefit you get from it is maddening, frustrating and unwelcome. It is a state of mind in which you are not simply ignoring God and his outreach to you, but you are denying the outreach because of a dark spiritual disposition. Folks who love evil and darkness more than light and goodness even so much that if Christ came to them to comfort them, they would seek to “…crucify him afresh.” This takes a special kind of person. A person who has decided that they relish in their wallow, that they want to cause harm to others and God even when faced by God with the sorrows of their victims. They have shut off the guilt meter and seek the same spiritual devolution for the lust of misery of others now and beyond the grave. These certain souls seek no redemption because they hate the source from whence it comes. Like Satan, they would rather usurp the throne of God to rid all of creation of his justice and love.

Their despicable spiritual slums or only fed by the infliction of hopelessness, devouring the light of conscience in other people. Inflicting upon them the reflection of their own spiritual filth before God; making them miserable, guilt ridden, and shamed so much that they too run from the redeemer’s love. They are simply unpardonable only because by their unrepentant dispositions they keep themselves out of reach by the master’s loving and forgiving radiance. It is a state of character so completely and utterly opposite from the the divine nature, that desires are bent on the destruction of others, including God. They don’t merely flirt with dark powers, they ally themselves in full allegiance with it.

If you recognize that you are one of these, then you already know. But if you’re asking, then you are never beyond redemption. Never run from God to absolve guilt, run to him, repent, grow spiritually and find peace.

Godspeed, my friend!

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PaulthePoke #fundie paulthepoke.com

Isaiah 19:16 In that day the Egyptians will be like women, and tremble with fear before the hand that the LORD of hosts shakes over them.

The politically correct police will not be pleased with God’s language. But He is in charge. He probably does not care about humanity’s linguistic standards. Deal with it.

In Isaiah 19, verses 16-25 are a unit that results in the return of Christ and the Millennial Kingdom. The section starts with fear, which leads to correction, which ultimately leads to peace. These verses talk and end when there is peace between Egypt, Israel, and Assyria. These areas will all worship the God of Israel and they will all be called “my people” by God.

In March 2019, this seems unthinkable and impossible. Imagine going to the Middle East and telling the Arab and Muslim people, the key to peace is to turn to and worship the triune God of the Bible. Imagine going to Israel and telling Jews, the key to peace is to turn to Jesus Christ as Messiah. There is a ton of passion over there. How well do you think those concepts would be accepted?

These verses are bound together by the term “in that day”. The phrase “in that day” is noted six times in these nine verses. Five times it is the start of a sentence and one time it ends a sentence in the NASB translation.

Verse 16: In that day the Egyptians will become like women, and they will tremble and be in dread because of the waving of the hand of the LORD of hosts, which He is going to wave over them.

This is an example of idiomatic language. Focus on the verbs tremble and dread. It is a word pair of charad and pachad.

Tremble or charad (Hebrew): to tremble, quake, move about, be afraid, be startled, be terrified

Dread or pachad (Hebrew): to fear, tremble, revere, dread, be in awe or dread

Why the need for all of this fear? The text is emphatic, God is the cause. It is stated twice that God is waving His hand. The concept is to swing or wield His hand over them. The grammar is a Hiphil stem verb which indicates God is actively causing things to happen. Lastly, there is the military term LORD of hosts. He is the military commander directing the action.

Before anyone gets upset and their pants get in a wad, spare me the “God is a sexist” nonsense. God is an equal opportunist when it comes to inciting fear. He can also whip men into a frenzy of panic just as well. Ezekiel 21:7 provides a nice example of men being scared. God is talking to nation Israel through the prophet.

“And when they say to you, ‘Why do you groan?’ you shall say, ‘Because of the news that is coming; and every heart will melt, all hands will be feeble, every spirit will faint and all knees will be weak as water. Behold, it comes and it will happen,’ declares the Lord GOD.”

The phrase … all knees will be weak as water… is another way of saying they wet down their leg. In our culture, they whizzed their pants. It is just a matter of fact, declares the Lord GOD.

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ClayJar #fundie bibleforums.org

Almost everything you described (apart from the audible voice) I went through - actually, I forgot this until I read your story: there was once after a long 3hour debate (we argued Buddhist thinking - which he supports - vs Christianity), he paused and looked at me and said, "It's like you're Married to Jesus Christ." That took me by surprise - he GOT Christianity on some level - human marriage IS a reflection of our first covenant with Jesus.. and I said really quietly, "yes". And he just shook his head and said, "I don't want to marry Jesus." I remember sitting there with tears in my eyes, he was so near and yet so far! The agony was so intense! I mean, I feel sad when I think of friends or family members who are not saved, but that grief was different to this horrible feeling - and I knew it's because I wanted him so badly to be saved, not only for him, but so that I could stay with him. I wanted my way instead of God's way. God was telling me, this is not your job, walk away.

It Was a really dark time - I don't ever want to go back.

I sometimes still feel it in the pit of my stomach when I think about him, and it's what makes me not feel like eating or sleeping or going about life in my normal cheer. And I know it's a spiritual fight inside - but I don't want any more of it. It is getting better, it's not as bad as 2 months ago.

One day at a time. I know one day I'll be ok. :hug:

Thank you.

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Kingston Tong, Graduated from seminary, preaching and teaching the Bible #fundie, quora.com

The original question: “Where is the list of the 500 people that is claimed to have witnessed the resurrection of Jesus?” is answered by the Apostle Paul that the Corinthians can still meet some of the eye witnesses of Jesus’ resurrection.

“For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, that he was buried,that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, and that he appeared to Cephas, and then to the Twelve. After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8 and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born” (I Cor. 15:3–7).

Luke records that the Lord appeared to them over a period of 40 days and spoke about the kingdom of God (Acts 1:3). It is reasonable to think that that the appearance of Jesus to the 500 happened within those 40 days when the Apostles were among that crowd. It was not Luke’s intention to list all the appearances of Jesus but ones that relates to the Apostles as the text continues with theses words, “On one occasion, while he was eating with the, he gave them this command, “Do not leave Jerusalem, but wait for the gift my Father promised, which you have heard me speak about…” (Acts 1:4).

The Apostle Paul even declares that if the Corinthians believers or skeptics don’t believe his testimony of Jesus’ resurrection that they can go to Jerusalem and meet some of the eyewitnesses of Jesus’ resurrection themselves. If there were any skeptics of Jesus’ life and resurrection, I would imagine that they would have went either to disapprove or confirm the life and resurrection of Jesus. Thus the resurrection of Jesus was well established by the testimony of the Apostles, the women, and 500 other people.

Note carefully in Acts 1:23–26 that two other men, Joseph called Barsabbas and Mathias were also witnesses of Jesus’ life:

“Therefore it is necessary to choose one of the men who have been with us the whole time the Lord Jesus was living among us, 22 beginning from John’s baptism to the time when Jesus was taken up from us. For one of these must become a witness with us of his resurrection.” Josephus and Mathias were equally qualified to be witnesses of Jesus’ life from John’s baptism until Jesus was taken up from us. Thus there were other witnesses which is not recorded in the Gospels.

It has been argued that why aren’t there other records of the life of Jesus. Luke records in 1:1–4 these words: “Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2 just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. 3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.” Those records have been lost.” Those historical documents are lost or not preserved.

SUMMARY: The resurrection of Jesus is true and not a fable.