And I am tired of hearing that crap about, well abort the baby early, and there will be nothing to it. Oh thou earthly fools, you have no right to take God's babies life without His permission. When abortion clinics get blown to bits, it makes me a happy man.
Fossils can only be created by rapid burial. They are also at lost to explain, why fish fossils are found at the tops of the worlds highest peaks or mountains, the dummys, will not even concede to evidence, because they are fools. They just will not give God' His place or believe in such a thing as devine intervention, like the WORLD WIDE FLOOD. But if they don't repent and give God his place, they will receive eternal damnation, and they have nobody to blame but themselves.
Actually, reality proves evolution a hoax more than anything else. All one has to do is go to a zoo to see what apes breed. And they have bred that way since the beginning of recorded history. That's why Jesus said to have the faith of a child. A child doesn't analyze, twist, or distort. He also doesn't rely on science to see reality, but mere observation.
[From a certain point of view, sure. Unfortunately, this thread is meaningless since it assumes God exists in the first place.]
You are at a Christian forum, are you not? What you will see here demonstrated, is faith. Just like some of science, and it's theories require faith. How? Has anyone seen the oort cloud yet? Believing in what you cannot see, is having faith that it is there.
Science even has god did it type excuses for what they cannot explain.
1) Natural selection.
2) Given enough time, anything can happen.
3) Odds don't count, because science no longer counts it.
4) If we can see it, it did happen. Assuming that evolution has become an absolute.
etc...
So there is a lot of faith and assumptions from the other side as well.
And how the earth rotates around the sun in a perfect circle and not egg like. You will never find this anywhere else in the galaxy. A divine hand created life. And thats enough for me for proof of God.
I've read reports showing the false beliefs of science. "IF" evolution existed we'd still be hairy like apes. For evolution to choose us and not apes is way off. To say well one got to evolutionize and the other stayed hairy. Evolutionist will tell you that the hair stayed on ur head for the sun rays to get blocked. Last time I checked hair was to keep you warm in the winter, not to block sun rays. In that case how come through the generations people getting skin cancer haven't developed into hairy beasts. Exactly, thank you because evolution does not exist. It's a made up theory. You claim evidence, evidence of what? Have you seen it with your own eye's or are you believing a lie? I'm telling you right now, if it goes against Gods word then it is wrong. By accepting Evolution you take away Adam and Eve. You know how so many animal fossils have turned to bone so fast is because they were not only preserved in mudd from the Flood, but they were also compressed with water. Water increases the process of bones turning into rocks. And yet still fossils found today have bone inside of them. Now do you think a bone inside of a rock could last millions of years? Probably not. I'm not flaming you, just stating that it's mis guided information for people to accept a way to go against God. God stressed no tolerance what so ever of other religions, and yes science is a religion.
['Wow, some of the exact same arguments were used against miscegenation (interracial marriage).']
were used? Still are used. I think miscegenation is also wrong, but not even close to Homosexual marriage. I remember when only one black person went to my school, when half blacks showed up they were treated poorly and often stayed to themselves. They was dead smack in the middle of not knowing what the heck they were. Now it's more common, that don't make it right, but hey that's only one small nail in this countries coffin Homosexual acceptance opens the door for accecptance of any and all that is perverse, that make it a whole board in the coffin.
Yes, the innocent could be abused by that system [under which divorce is outlawed], but they deserve it if they take a risk as bad as marriage full well knowing what can,(and probably will) happen. The naqtion would greatly benefit from this, but I know it'll never happen.
Men who say they are for womens rights are often only saying it just so they don't have any responsibility to the relationship with a woman. many men don't want to lead because it's a job that only a true christian male can handle... It's very scarry to know someone who is so down on God like you are,and that there are people who claim to know the bible who actually have no clue to what it means are says.
How can man be descending and evolving at the same time? Which is it?It appears that Darwin can't make a statment without contradicting himself.
Even scientists know there's a God
by Heidi on Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:59 pm
Since according to scientists, energy can never be created or destroyed, then that means it has always existed and always will. So they know there's a God because they know that an eternal force exists. They just don't call energy God even though they acknowledge that it's a powerful unseen force whose power is limitless and infinite. So they have just defined God yet they deny Him at the same time. Incessant contradictions. Yours in Christ,
When they come up with one with more ego appeal and less holes in it, you’ll see the ToE dropped like a hot rock from Hades. My prediction is probably it will be that an ‘alien’ from another galaxy will come and take credit for dropping the first couple here 6,000 years ago, explain the Bible was written by his inspiration, and that he is not only the OT God but the long awaited Messiah. He will have unlocked the secrets of miracles and perform wonders before an adoring crowd of true believers. Jesus will probably be proclaimed an imposter and the Antichrist will take his place.
[Relic thinks he's found the cure for homosexuality]
Everyone knows the Physical can be treated by doctors that aren't type who are nothing but butchers or money hungry vultures. Nothing like a good dose of testosterone when it is lacking or, in the case of women estrogen. If it is not physical, it is a mental condition. Both can be treated properly, And, Christ Jeus teaches the healing and overcoming of any malady. Even to those who are physically disabled in other ways.
If a person is depressed do we advocate for them to stay in the depressed state of being? NO. So then, why do you advocate for the person who has a chemical imbalance to stay in the homosexual state of being if what is out of balance in their bodies are their testosterone or estrogen levels?
I also do not have animosity to atheists, just to the religion, which is harmful and evil, and illogical, and contains many errors, poor ideas, and fallacys, I'm sorry I mistook you for one.
If a day is as a 1000 years to God, he concluded that a divine year, is 365 1/4 x 1,000 or 365,250 of our own years. Thus the time between the beginning of creation and the creation of man is 42,000 x 365,250 which equals 15.34 billion years! Pretty amazing HUH! And to think a bunch of dumb Jews had it figured out a long time ago.
Scientists have measured the age of the universe and have concluded that the relationship between time near the beginning of the Big Bang and time today, is one million million. As the universe expands, time and its relationship to it would increase, right? If you viewed the six days of creation in the transmitting of time as we see today, the first day, would have been 8 billion years long. The second 24hr day period, would be experienced by us as 4 billion years. The 3rd as 2 billion. The 4th as 1 billion. The 5th as a 1/2 billion. The 6th as a of a 1/4 billion. So adding 8 + 4 + 2 + 1 + 1/2 + 1/4 equals 15 3/4 billion years! Pretty much the same as cosmologists agree.
There's also a NASA/ scientist/ evolutionist connection here. Humm, I wonder where they got that number from! Well as the story goes, NASA was researching the age of the universe when one scientist recalled that some ancient Hebrew writings might have a clue. This is the document they used to confirm there own anomolies in there research, which then dated the age of the universe to some 13 billion years, after that they dated the age to 15 billion years.
I just don't understand why some atheists claim to also believe and accept evolution when it is part of many ancient pagan religions? Why can't an atheist just be an atheist?
How many of you agree that science needs to be reined in, and that out of control science is one of the greatest dangers to mankind short of Satan himself? YES
Should there be limits to what scientists can study? YES
Should all research be subjected to some kind of ethics board approval? YES
Should be some kind of review of any proposed research for ethical purposes, and should that board include people who are not themselves scientists? YES
Is the whole idea of discovery for the sake of discovery is flawed? YES
Are there limits to what mankind should be allowed to know? YES
Is the much touted liberal idea of being open minded a recipie for destruction? YES
Does being too open minded cause people to think too much and question too much? YES
Is it dangerous to think too much, and question too much? YES
Is it dangerous to know too much? YES
Does knowledge ultimately reduce peoples fear of God? YES
Is it better to be closed minded - secure in the knowledge that God has told you everything that you need to know? YES
We really need to put the breaks on science. Scientists should only be allowed to study what needs to be studied as decided by the people. Scientists should stop telling people what to believe.
If ID is Creation theory in drag, Evolution is naked Atheism, stripped of it’s final conclusion. The underlying force that fuels it’s propagation is the need to deny the existence of God.
We shouldn’t teach anything that can’t be proven, either by experiment, history or mathematical fact. Evolution should only be allowed in schools as Creationism is, as a special after school activity.
[regarding the question of fossil evidence and what happened to Dinosaurs]
Believe it or not, this is one of the topics that I discussed with the Lord. gators and crocks, yes. So are elephants and Rhinoceros's (Praise God for spellcheck )
Some of the things that God revealed to me was that they were not vicious. The big guy with the huge pointy teeth? He ate trees. There was one dino that was found that scientist had believed had swallowed another dinosaur whole? He did not. She was pregnant. They did not lay eggs, they gave live birth, like rhinos do today.
Well, except for the big bird thingy. And unlike its Hollywood and Japanese film counterparts, they had feathers.
Why are they gone? The Lord says that there were not all that many of them to begin with. They were on the ark. And they simply did not reproduce after the flood rapidly enough to survive. With the exception of the ones that survived. Crocks, gators, elephants, rhinos.
If the fools want to marry each other they will kill each other off with there spreading diseases to each other and they go about perforate each others colons, destroying each others bodies with their vile practices. No wonder the "average" life expectancy of a gay person is only 40 some odd years. [...]
If the gays think they can get away with living in such vile wicked behaviors they are sadly mistaken. And the proof is in the sad state of their affairs. They are not happy people. Not at all. They run from facing the root of their problems in life and think that they will find happiness in some perverted form of being which is outside of God's Holy Will for mankind. They mock and shake their fist at God. For shame. [...]
The homosexual "of today" is liken to an birth defect of epidemic proportions from out of society that sprung out of the outlandish liberal mindedness of the 60's generation. This too shall pass. They sick perverted demands of the gay community will not prevail. [...]
These people are in my prayers.
Something that always gets me......
So many eons of evolution.......so few ''transitional'' forms..
The earth should literally be packed with the remains of these ''transitional'' forms after that period of time.
Like us YECs tho, science always can come up with some excuse for this things.
That is until thier ideas are debunked by the next guy.
Till then I guess we are to take whatever silly little notion comes out of their mouths as gospel truth, arent we
Darwin's theory while interesting, is way off and is in fact missing many links includeing transitional fossils. Scientists are tired of sitting by the swamp waiting for a single cell to emerge from mud that will recreate all life as we know it. It's just not gonna happen period! When i grow some wing's, i'll fly over your house and we can chat about this in person!
['Wait, back the racist truck up. I want to hear more reasoning on why you think miscegenation is wrong. Your words are sounding less and less like those preached by our Lord.']
Not believing in mixed marriages does not make me a racist so no further discusion with yourself is needed.
How can man be descending and evolving at the same time? Which is it?It appears that Darwin can't make a statment without contradicting himself.
[You should excuse the expression, but how does one get 'initiated' into homosexuality?]
Sadly! We know it is only some of the many ways they try to initiate by molestation of our children and young adults.
Another way they try to initiate our children into homosexuality is by using a very subtle form of molestation and one that is also very offensive in that it perverts the minds of innocent young children, is to write vulgar books about homosexual relationships and read them to children in kindergarten and 7 year old children in the 2nd grade! They dare to introduce these teaching into the school systems curriculum to our very very young children , as if it to be a "normal" type of relationship. Another way is to write books about teens having explicit homosexual acts and show them to kids in high school and give children sex education classes which shows them how to have so called safe sex with the same sex. Those are just a few of the many ways in which the homosexual pedophiles (called pederasts) use as part of Their Agenda to initiate and brainwash the minds of our babies and young adults without our consent!
[Evolutionists today are not sexists, because science shows that sexism is not rational. Many creationists are sexists, because they retain a conservative that women are inferior.]
Silly me. Of course Darwin’s prejudices would not enter into theories about survival of the fittest and superiority of one species, sex and race over another. So now all evolutionists are not sexists or many are not sexists? Exactly or approximately how many creationists are sexists?
Is it sexist to understand there are differences between males and females both physically and emotionally so that each has a unique function in life? The Bible refers to the woman as the weaker vessel, not the inferior vessel. (Just as a piece of bone china is weaker than a clay pot, and should be treated with more care and consideration.) More responsibility is placed on the man’s shoulders as head of household and the woman is especially adapted for her role, as much as a man is built for his. Not many men have adapted to birthing and breastfeeding babies. ::Wide-eyed smiley:: Do you have any stats on that?
[Darwin's theory said:
1. More are born than can survive to reproduce
2. All organisms vary slightly
3. Those variations that improve chances of survival tend to increase in a population
4. These accumulate and account for the variety of life we see.]
If that was all that Darwin’s theory was, it would not have bothered anyone.
1. God adapted his creatures to survive in the world that was subjected to death and decay.
2. God likes variety. He is creative. Maybe that’s why we call him the Creator.
3. Good adaptations were created by an amazing, intelligent being. Romans 8 says the creation was made subject to vanity— a system of self preservation to preserve it until the fallen world was destroyed and all was ready for the coming new world.
4. Variations accumulate as God intended. (see #3)
The only theory I want to throw out is unproven evolutionary belief and it’s supporting ‘ancient earth’ dogma. My daughter home schools her children. She chooses her own curriculum. There are religion-neutral books that teach science with no mention of either God or evolution, just science, pure and simple. But that’s not what you want, is it? You want to influence children into evolution beliefs and poison their minds against creationist views.
There is another cause for the changes that are evident in extinct animals, possibly even people, with features seldom if ever found among living specimens. In Jasher, Enoch, and even slightly in Genesis, it is recorded that some sort of genetic tampering was done that angered God. Also Jasher reports that as punishment for the tower building, God caused 1/3 of those involved to be morphed into ‘elephants and apes.’ While this sounds like a bit of myth, and it could be, there is a condition known as elephantitus that causes features that would fit this description.
you see oil is compressed and heated up(due to compresion)
organic matter(like corpses and plants and stuff) and you see,we have oil evevry where,or atleast in alot of places,and it is at random depths,
so you see to create all the oil in the world there had to be a global flood.
Please...deliver me form these heathens !!!
Science is 99% crackpot theories, 1 % scientific law. I stand by my claim. Period. Science has done absolutely nothing for God´s people. Nada. Zip.
Science = Smoke n mirrors.
Their [Muslims] god is satan and they have always hated Christians and Jews and the God they worship.
Ever notice that every evil in the world is placed on the shoulders of the United States by liberals?
Yet the Muslims can have their own children blow themselves up to kill non combatants in suicide bombings... but they have "their reasons" according to the wigged out logic of some...
Go figure!
No [I wasn't level-headed]: I was at one time just like you a weak wimp.
What to increase the number of kids beat up at school? Let homosexuals adopt.
[On gay equality]
I accept and agree with equal rights. They already have these though. Every single homosexual is entitled to marry someone of the opposite sex anytime they so choose.
(This post speaks for itself)
[Obsession with death?! How about obsession with life! A life well lived and to its fullest in order to help serve your fellow man. Would you consider it an improvement if all those people whose lives were saved by vaccinations had died rather than thrive and provide for a better world?]
and yet again...the unyielding unending Pagan seduction of death.
[On the Gay, Lesbian, and Straight Education Network (GLSEN)]
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['Secondly, a "virgin birth" is a terrible sign from God. Almost no one will be in a position to verify or witness it!']
My argument is clearly true. I will take the word of God over the word of someone who has some serious issues with Christianity any day.
All of it [evidence for evolution] is based on present only observations, which they only assume without reason, and believe must apply to the future, and the past ad infinitum!
They fry in Hell
Any jihadist reader better be aware that, even if U R an amalgum of Rambo, the Terminator, the Hulk & Bruce Lee - which U ain't - U STILL wouldn't be a FRACTION tough enough to withstand eternal conscious torment
Repent
Ask Jesus to forgive all your sins
& invite Him into your heart as Saviour & Lord of life
B4 He has to cast you into the eternal Lake of Fire [...]
Now to review the dark forbidden occult of Harry Potter & The Goblet of Fire - as the books & films have deceived many gullible children & youth into courses on witchcraft & other forbidden occult practices that lay them open to demon oppressio, even possession..
Foolish non-believers and atheists believe we are animals.[...]
<p>They are the ones that are inconsistent in their belief system.[...]
<p>They can't accept their creator because they are too busy playing god to seek the true God.
<p>These losers spend their time in a Christian forum trying to seduce us into doubting God. Acccording to the word of God they are too dense to even recognize that they are dupes and mouth pieces for satan who is their father.[...]
<p>Homosexuals are perverts and homosexuality is perversion. The bible which our criterion for truth is as plain as crystal on this topic.
<p>This is a Christian forum and these arrogant dupes need to recognize this fact.[...]
If the non believers don't like it then they should take a hike.
<p>They have nothing to defend because they believe they came from nothing but swamp gas. It is the perfect way for these evil children to believe their own unstable and immoral values. The reason they slink around this forum is because they cannot help but mimic their sepentine father.
<p>Satan is their puppet master.[...]
<p>The bible is right they are an evil bunch and need to repent and turn to the God they spend their pathetic lives trying to convince themselves and others doesn't exist.[...]
<p>This is a Christian forum! We rule they drool!
[re: evolution of fruit]
And I guess these fruits were SO smart that they developed their colors of choice as well. Thinking 'wow, if I color myself REAL pretty, someone will eat me and then drop my seeds so I can reproduce. Yeah, yeah, that's it, reproduction. And, if I can get them ALL to eat me and drop the seeds EVERYWHERE, eventually we CAN RULE THE WORLD. Just US APPLES!!!! So, now we must figure out how to stop them from eating grapes'.
Well, I guess those that 'don't get it' simply 'won't get it'. Too bad.
I believe Scripture. Therefore, those reports that contradict Scripture are wrong.
The way to get rid of blind faith is to seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness.
As for your evolutionary dream sequence, it isn’t even based in reality. Just because you have imagined missing links and recreated past lives for all your semi human ancestors, doesn’t mean it happened, no matter how often you repeat the story or how much you embellish it with bones and rocks.
As Christians, we are notorious for caring about other people's problems, which is one of the reasons why everybody hates us so much.
[Debating the Muslim Holiday USPS stamp]
Lyrics dad, after getting to know about you in another topic, I'm not surprised at all to see you agree with this slick little maneuver of getting people to lose their loyalty to America, and become a one worlder.
If you connect the dots, that's what you WILL get.
LD, do you also like what happened to the man who protested the
homosexual indoctrination being forced upon his kindergartener?
He was arrested.
the Illuminati calls us sheep and they laugh at us knowing that we will not fight. So these evil people who are in office and are breaking our constitution peace by peace and our bill of rights, should at least all the Christians take up a fight not with arms, but go to Washington by the thousands and protest our right to freedom; not doing so will be a sin and we will get what we deserve an evil empire rule by a dictator who will be cruel and ruthless.
[On the creationist organization AnswersInGenesis' Statement of Faith, which states "By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural record."] "yeah, sounds good to me. They have enough sense to know that the Bible is the infallible word of God. The Bible is our only infallible guide. Therefore if mainstream 'science' is reaching conclusions other than what the Bible teaches, then we need to look at the evidence through the lense of infallible scripture.
[Replying to "...large meteors have nailed our planet in the *past*. If the earth is only 6 or 7 thousand years old... How could our human race survived this bombardment?"] "Don't believe everything you hear or you'll have all sorts of ideas that are not founded on truth pop in your head.
If science is empiricism, then science cannot affirm numbers. And if science cannot affirm the existence numbers, then what is science?
History is often far simpler. Science came from the Christian Renaissance, ala the works of good crafted Science. And science surely was not based on Empiricism in the 1600s.
Anyone happen to watch this week's episode of "West Wing?
The Democratic candidate (played by Jimmy Smits from LA LAW) made a statement that he believed in God and that God was intellegent. Then...at a school meeting he went on say how Intellegent Design was "theology" and not science, and that it shouldn't be taught in shcools; Separation of Church and State, blah blah blah....and all his advisors applauded him for such a 'bold stand'. I just about kicked in the TV
I wonder how uch money all the ACLU lobbiest paid for that commercial?
