im christian
if we came from apes
how come were not hairy and have a big mouth
and did we end up looking like we do know
and besides
there isnt any serious proof of apes
they showd a video saying an ape was wondering around in the forest
that thing looked exactly like a costume that i had saw at a store
know one ever cought an ape
There is also much taking of liberties with the truth in the name of science, especially by evolutionists. Sweeping, groundless assertions are stated as facts regarding man’s origin and ascent or descent from the lower animals. A scientist who with righteous indignation comes to grips with this matter of taking liberties with the truth is Ivar Lissner, Ph.D., whose books have been published in fourteen languages. In his latest book, published in 1961, and entitled “But God Was There,” he speaks of “the ineffable stupidity of all attempts to reconstruct Neanderthal or even Peking man. Exaggeratedly hirsute [hairy] plaster figures of bestial mien glower savagely at us in museums all over the world, their features usually chocolate-brown in color, their hair wild and unkempt, their jaws prognathous [sticking forward] and their foreheads receding—and this despite the fact that we have absolutely no idea what color Paleolithic man’s skin was or how his hair grew and virtually no idea of his physiognomy” or facial features. “The American authority T. D. Stewart rightly pointed out in 1948 the impossibility of reconstructing hair, eyes, nose, lips or facial expression. ‘The probabilities are that the expression of early man was not less benign than our own,’ he wrote.
“When a museum displays models of Peking man, Neanderthal man and modern Homo sapiens [man] side by side, it encourages a conception of physical and intellectual development which is not in accord with the views of contemporary science. Those who make such models tend to give their imagination free rein. . . . The exhibition of these half-human, half animal figures is symptomatic of the moral arrogance of our era and latently inspired by a smug feeling of ‘look how far we’ve come!’” In his book scientist Lissner shows that man at all times was far removed from the lower creation and at all times had some form of religion. In one of his closing chapters he therefore asks, “Why do we cling so stubbornly to outmoded theories? Why do we prefer to look for our origins in the animal rather than in God?” Obviously because they do not want to recognize the debt of gratitude they owe the Creator nor their need to be in subjection to him. They refuse to admit the truth that “Jehovah is God. It is he that made us, and not we ourselves.”—Ps. 100:3.
Clearly not many here have looked into what science says RECENTLY about evolution. This is probably because science and the media would prefer people remain ignorant to the ACTUAL facts found by evolution scientists themselves. There are 6 major theories that have come about to try to explain the beginnings of life from evolution scientists. None of them have been successful theories and further they've all been thoroughly debunked.
#1. Random Chance - Answer uh, no. The mathematical odds of assembling a living organism are so astronomical that no evolutionary scientist still believes that random chance accounts for the origin of life. If you took all the carbon in the universe and put it on the face of the earth allowed it to chemically react at the most rapid rate possible and left it for a billion years the odds of creating just one functional protein molecule would be 1 chance in a 10 with 60 zeros after it. (source Walter Bradley P.H.D.)
#2. Chemical Affinity - basically the premise is that the chemicals necessary to create life were biochemically predestined after many tests the theories biggest proponent biologist Dean Kenyon who wrote a book on it called Biological Predestination has since repudiated the idea.
#3. Self-Ordering Tendencies - the theory is that under certain circumstances if energy is passed through a system at a fairly high rate the system becomes unstable and will rearrrange itself into an alternate and somewhat more complicated form. Ilya Prigogine a thermodynamacist who speculated on the idea admitted recently "there is still a gap between the most complex structures we can produce in nonquilibrium situations in chemistry vs. the complexity we find in biology."
#4. Seeding From Space - So outlandish a theory that Phillip Johnson said of Sir Francis Crick (co-discoverer of DNA) "When a scientist of Crick's caliber feels he has to invoke undetectable spacemen it is time to consider whether the field of prebiological evolution has come to a dead end." Even if there WERE spacemen the problem of the origin of life is still not solved. It's just moved to another location.
#5 Vents in the ocean - a weak theory that suggests that life was gestated on the sea bottom where these vents are. The water is recirculated through these vents so even if you were able to molecules to begin to grow they'd be destroyed each recirculation and not have enough time to be complete. No evolutionary scientist supports this theory.
#6 Life from Clay - Cairns-Smith admitted "no one has been able to coax clay into something resembling evolution in a laboratory; nor has anyone found anything resembling a clay based organism in nature."
Klaus Dose a biochemist and one of the foremost experts in the area of evolution said this: "more than 30 years of experimentation on the origin of life in the fields of chemical and molecular evolution have led to a better perception of the immensity of the problem of origin of life on earth rather than a solution. At present all discussions on principle theories and experiment in the field either end in stalemate or in a confession of ignorance."
If there isn't a natural explanation and there doesn't seem to be the potential for finding one then I believe it's appropriate to look at a supernatural explanation. - Walter Bradley P.H.D.
Although most scientists are reluctant to admit it the findings of science are pointing toward GOD not away from him. They found that DNA is a written code. Any other time we've discovered writing in history it's pointed toward intelligence. Why should something this complex be any different? Scientists like to call it "Intelligent Designer" so as not to say GOD, but...there it is. I gave the names of my sources so that you could look it up for yourself and not think I'm just making it up. As a follower of Christ I'm tired of hearing the argument that we don't use logic and that science disproves GOD, when the opposite is true even out of the minds of the scientists you like to base your opinions on.
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One idea is that the atheist in all his glory has a very limited knowledge, but bases his belief on that limited knowledge. Therefore, it is sort of an egotism about his superiority, which is a well known fault and goes back to the beginning of man according to the Bible. Likewise, as more is know in science, the greater the chance of understanding God. If that idea is accepted, the next thing is to review the early days of science and the conflicts with the Church and how that set into being the attitude of the academicians and their requirements into their church. From that, it should be obvious that non-believers are unsophisticated and their attitude is unworthy of the knowledge that they do have. The corruption is that most learned people who live off of their knowledge will never admit that they really don't know much.
Vagina muscles and female pleasure for the win.
Before the fall, all of Eve's pain receptors in the vagina were pleasure receptors.
The woman experienced not only the phenomenon of "premature" orgasm that NORMAL males are plagued with, but to a higher degree and with perpetuity.
In this fashion, Eden-istic sexual intercourse consisted of the male entering the female, followed by immediate or almost immediate orgasm by the female, resulting in vaginal contractions that "milk" the penis, which is almost also near orgasm, to completion. Any "in and out" activity by the male maintains and compounds the pleasure received by the female, beyond her ability to cope. The natural response is to escape (the way tickling is averted) and the only reason the man is superior in strength and aggression is so that he can hold the female in a state of ecstasy that she cannot otherwise achieve.
Initial sexual intercourse for the woman (pain of losing virginity) would have been
unbearably pleasurable in Eden. And childbirth would have been an over the top joyous occasion. Babies would have laughed with their first breath instead of crying. The body does not age, and the vagina is returned to it's pre-child birth state each time.
This will be restored in paradise, and everyone goes there, one way or another.
So get ready ladies. First, death to self on behalf of brotherly love of others must occur in the core of the heart and the works of the hands.
This is how religion, particularly modern christianity is not able to reach you.
God is a VERY sexual and sensual creator.
Eve caused the pleasure/pain switch to be flipped temporarily for all women.
This is so that she could no longer receive the reward of sex while she continued to barter with it for power over the male, corrupting true equality.
The result is that now the man must "toil in the earth" for it to bring forth the woman's orgasm. And most of the time, it doesn't, and the result is her dissatisfaction, "thorns and thistles". Of course this imagery also pertains to things like understanding the story, and dealing with life in general.
Circumcision was God's "equalizer". By desensitizing the male, he can work until the woman is satisfied. As a result, she returns more often for sex, and the father of a great multitude is made.
I send you "Elijah", and he shall restore ALL things! Even the nitty gritty.
Shalom.
Answering the question "Did god make Atheists"
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There are no such things as atheists their just theists living in denial.
"Atheism" is a negative affirmation and we know that logically you cannot prove a negative.
There are only two logical positions you can hold - theist or agnostic. "atheism" is the man made cult.
Perhaps the question should be: Liberals: Would you be happy if all the aborted babies where burned as fuel instead of coal? It could be considered a new green energy.
This is all you atheists have to go on. Proof, proof, proof. You want to challenge the Bible and say God doesn't exist because he was "made by man," yet you all believe in foolish logic that was made by man! And you've been duped at that! Did you know Darwin actually fabricated some of his proof to help his theory along (and don't ask me what the fabrications were because I only read it in a magazine once and don't entirely remember it all because it had to do with one of the really dumb, complicated ideas you all follow)? Who wantts to believe in a liar who makes stuff up to further the lie? None of you have to believe a word I or any other theist say, and you don't want to believe it anyway, but God will be the one to have the last laugh in his glorious day of return, and you will unfortunately suffer with regret.
Atheist: do you not give birth after your own kind?
Long before satan fed you evolution God said: "Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to it's kind" (Genesis 1:24)
Dogs do not give birth to roaches.
man do not give birth to monkeys.
shameless liars are we not reproducing after our own kind.
Should I be with my father for long periods of time each week if he is an atheist?
I see my father usually once a week but for about an hour or more at a time. I have had negative effects to my physical health from being with him. His advice was erroneous on health, and I became underweight. There is a holy scripture, which says: "He that walketh with wise men shall be wise: but a companion of fools shall be destroyed" (Proverbs 13:20). I almost literally was destroyed. At least, I was severely declining in health.
In reply to "Are there any well-known atheists that have made serious contributions to humanity?"
I have seen the answers below, but the sad thing is, unlessan athiest had taught people how to fear God, then they have not contributed to humanity. For when the forces of God starts to destroy this earth and to take people of righteousness to the Kingdom then what anything else have mattered, men and women who leads others to Christ are the true contributors of humanity.
In reply to the question "Do you think its right for religious people to push there religion on others?"
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Define "push".
For that matter, define "religious" and "religion".
If opposing the "pushing of ones religion on others" includes silencing the unending harangues, hammering, and ubiquitous propaganda of gay "rights" activists, global warming alarmists, tree huggers, vegans, radical feminists, "diversity" mongers, pc nazis, rabbid secularists, Socialists, and advocates of nationalized health care, then I'm all for it.
In answer to "Can anyone give me a legitamate reason to believe in evolution over creation(christianity)?"
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nope, and im currently in medical school and i have a ton of anatomy classes and am learning about all the systems of the body and cells and stuff like that....after that class no ONE can tell me theres no GOD!! there is no way that evelution made every single cell to do every thing as perfectly and precise as our bodies do. there has to be a God. If you need someone to give you a reason???...read the bible.
OH!! and another thing....there was a study done a while ago where scientist found out that EVERY SINGLE human being has ONE gene in common...even from way back then....they also found that that gene is not found in any animals...hmmmm??? guess we didnt come from monkeys. (or watever evelutionists say we come from) also, if evelution was true, wats the chance that only one monkey changed into a human being..wouldnt they still be evolving into us today?
QUESTION:
Again any concrete evidence for evolution? All 'evidence' offered so far 'cannot hold water'. Differentiation and adaptation do NOT prove evolution. At best fossil finds
support a global deluge by virtue of petrification. The Bible is in fact silent re
the age of the earth itself, and does NOT specify an exact time in years for each creation period. Notice that "day" does not literally mean 24 hours, as used. The Bible does say however that each specie was created according to its kind. Show me a fossilized intermediate specie and I know it must be concocted. by TrueTruthseeker
ANSWER:
show me the billions of years of impact craters
on the earth and the moon
how many times has the earth been hit by meteors
if it is billions of years then where are the impact craters
look at the moon
you will see some
but not enough
the earth is not that old
by hong kong phooey
People think we evolved from monkeys...WHO DO YOU THINK MADE THE MONKEY?
The 'atheist society' have paid to advertised on the side of London buses “There is no God, so enjoy life” is this to be interpreted as, break all the commandments & enjoy life?
The atheist will say the world is screwed up because of religion but judging by his actions and those of others is it screwed up because there is not enough?
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[And Iraq is the perfect example of that!]
[Question: People on this site call me a religious fool. So why is it ,the majority of people here have no idea what Scientific Theory is?]
Answer:
Take comfort in the fact that you actually use logic whereas they merely claim to. Something can not come from nothing. It defies all reason. That's more ridiculous than lead into gold and all other manner of magical BS supposed scientists have cooked up over the centuries.
[This is one of those that you don't know what's worse if the question or the answer. And, yes, the one asking the question is a Fundie]
They already have the religion of Evolution taught in the public schools.
Creation Science should be taught as well to balance this.
Evolution is faith masquerading as Science. It is unobservable and unable to be replicated, therefore at odds with the scientific method.
Jesus offers eternal life and a great hope.So why would anyone who doesnt believe in Christ want to have Children?Who would just grow up to have cancer,have a horrible car accident,get murdered or suffer some other kind of grief,have no hope after death?
[In reply to the question why do Fundamentalists not respect others' beliefs?]
Personally, I don't respect very many people period. Respect is something that is earned, not handed out like candy. As a Christian, I follow Scripture. It says to love your enemies and do good to those who despitefully use you, which I do. But it doesn't say to compromise my Biblical belief nor to tolerate blatant sin against Yahweh as many religions practice.
Now if another belief (religion or denomination) teaches anything that is contrary to what the Bible teaches then I have no respect for that particular belief but I try to treat the people within that belief system as I would want to be treated. With the kindness and love that Jesus teaches
23, I am surprised. You obviously appreciate the scientific method where truth is arrived at by a processing of evidence, so I would think you'd be more impressed with Christianity. Perhaps you were misinformed. Actually very little has to be taken by blind faith with Jesus. Unlike most other religions (the only other exception being maybe Judaism) where the main points require blind acceptance of their truth claims, Christianity is so well grounded in history and fact that it does not need require "blind faith."
Question: Where is the logic in creationism? How on Earth can anyone honestly believe in it?
Answer:
"Let's see. Take a watch apart and put it in washing machine or any kind of container you want and shake it, roll it, hit it with chemicals, shoot it with lightning bolts and just how long before it becomes a timepiece again?"
[It's worth going into the site just to read all the comments left by this idiot. Everytime she opened her mouth, she put her foot in it by giving comments & explanations more and more ignorant and asinine each time]
Question: What news headline would you most like to see?
Answer: Barack Obama has been assasinated
[Short and to the point!]
Recorded history goes back approximately 5,000 years and comes to an abrupt halt and the reason for that is obvious...there isn't much history prior to that point.
Because the evolutionists have no recorded history of man prior to the 6,000 plus years declared in God's Word which is a reliable history book and witness, the anti-Bible groups have no witnesses to support their pre-6,000 years old claims. In order to debunk the authority of God's Word they created an armada of pseudoscientific theories and techniques to offset their lack of witnesses...their lack of proof.
[Don't you just love the way these types label everything that doesn't agree with their fantasy 'anti'? As for the rest of the rant...well, it speaks for itself!]
The holes in Darwin's theory of evolution basically are scientific evidence of Creation because if Darwinism is flawed, what else is there? And we could do the Coca-Cola Can Theory, but I doubt we'd have to. Creation obviously has a Creator. I can't show you absolute, flawless, scientific proof of Creationism because proof is not faith, and I follow and believe Christ by faith, but there is evidence, as there is with evolution (which, personally, I think is flawed, and a very cruel hoax). I hope that this is helpful.
-In the service of the Master.
Thank you and God bless you!
[Oooook! Any questions?]
Question: Creation Science supporters: Please provide scientific evidence that supports creationism. Not what you think are supposed holes in evolution, but evidence that supports creationism.
Answer:
Everything is so complex, so perfectly desingned, that there is no way it could have come into existence on its own. Every feature of all organisms has been given to it by God, because He knows what is perfect. It is ridiculous to think that organisms just happen to genetically mutate in a way that is beneficial to it, and then decide to "keep" it.
Think about sex. Do you think something like that could be brought about by chance? God made sex as a way for a husband and a wife to express their love for each other. Many people have taken this gift from God and perverted it, most commonly by having sex with people they have very little idea if they want to spend the rest of their life with or not. Sex is not just something you do for fun with people you like! When a man and a woman have made a commitment that they will spend the rest of their lives as one, then it's OK. Not to mention, it is a lot more special, there isn't that awkwardness between the two of you. I just don't think that it would be so "great" if it was not designed by a loving God who cares for His creations, and wants the best for us. If it wasn't for His creation of it, it could be a painfull process that people only did if they wanted children. Would you be OK with that? I thought not.
[Now, that is what I call evidence!]
Do you feel that since we have a "black" president that the media is suppressing certain news stories related to black crime so as to keep racial upset at bay? Or do you feel like nothing has changed in the media regarding the US having a "black" presiden
I'm not a scientist, nor do I understand how my computer works, exactly. I am not a mechanic, either, but I drive a car. Thank you for pulling my happy go lucky world right out from under me. I feel like Gilligan who was flying until Skipper told him he couldn't. Thanks a lot! So, basically, your point is that we can't use a computer if we don't understand it and don't accept your religion of evolution?
If atheists are real, why are they still trying to convince themselves that they're right and getting personal with Christians when they ask questions? Is being an atheist the trendy thing to now for angry people?
[Question: If God alone has the right to kill, does that make him a murderer, we are 'his children' and yet he kills us. If a person kills their child that they created that is murder, why is this not the same for God?]
Answer:
Blessed is the death of one of his saints in the eyes of the Lord. God giveth and God taketh away. The Creator has a right to do whatever he damn well pleases. But this dosen't make him a murdered. It is our punishment and blessing that we MUST die
[WTF? Do these people actually believe that crock of shit?]
GODs kills BUT.... he can resurrect the dead.
if you kill. can you bring the dead to life
that's the difference
Comments - neveroddoreven
Just because he can doesn't mean he does, and im fairly sure that he doesn't.
[Don't know who's more delusional, the answerer or the one who comments]
If God were a figment of man's imagination, wouldn't He have gone by the wayside like so many other stories/fantasies? The Jewish Pharisees understood this, and decided to leave the early Christians alone, reasoning that if their movement was of man, it would fade away on its own, but if it were of God, nothing they could do would ever stop it. That reasoning is still sound today.
[Even the 'real' Homer couldn't say something that stupid]
[This is in response to the question should Evolution and Creationism be taught in school]
If you all want some answers to that question look up Richard Howard and talk to him about it. He is my Science professor at my college and he is a Strong Believer in Jesus. talk to him and he will answer your questions. but i think if one is taught so should the other one. but since school is to narrow sighted and cant see that they dont have an EQUALITY anymore
[See, this is the kind of student that a professor who's a Strong Believer in Jesus produces]
Question: How do flying cars and abortion relate to one another?
Answer: If Roe Vs. Wade hadn't have passed, a would-be abortee would have gone on to invent the flying car. (Or at least make them practical for us all.) Then the promise of "flying cars by 2000" would have seen its fulfillment that year.
[This is a comment in response to: If Creationism is taught, then other faith-based origin stories should be taught as well. Would there be time left for serious learning?]
Comment 1: Evolution is faith-based teaching. There is no proof for it only very shaky evidence.
Definition of a cult:
1) As an unquestioning loyalty and blind allegiance to a mortal, belief or idea that has erected walls of protection around it from examination.
2) Believes unquestionably what is taught by "experts" while rejecting reality/self-evidence.
Comment 2: There is equal or surpassing scientific evidence for Creation.
Thousands of books with the wrong evidence are not as good as one that has the correct information. Hitler put a book out that was called "1000 Scientists prove that Einstein was Wrong."
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No one has observed a change in species, only adaptation.
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Ben Stein's excellent movie "Expelled" shows how anything against Evolution is silenced.
[WTF? How could a reasonable and intelligent person ever win an argument on the face of such rampant studity and delusion?]
Question: What experience have you had that made you think there is a God? And what experience have you had that made you think there is no God?
Answer: Experience? EXPERIENCES! Far, far too many to even begin to list.
And I have never, never even experienced anything that would have me think or believe there is no God! It's inconceivable to me.
And I am not a "thumper", by any stretch.
[With a powerful testimony like that...I'm convinced!]
Question: Have you ever had an actual conversation with God or Jesus?
Answer: Yes, I get exited, my heart beats faster, I feel my blood flow faster, my body gets weak and strong at the same time. My mind races wildley but I am extremly focused, and I can't control my hands, my fingers inparticular
[She obviously confuses masturbating with talking to god/Jesus]
Question: Have you ever had an actual conversation with God or Jesus?
Answer: Yes, many times, and once I heard God's voice. My daughter was detected with an enormous brain tumour. As I prayed, I said "Lord, you can't take my daughter from me." and I heard Him clearly say "Yes, I CAN."
I had to admit that He could, and just ask Him not to, please. He let her live. But had He taken her, I would still agree with His decision
[No wonder psychiatrists make so much money!]
Question: Does it make anyone else nervous that articles regarding obama and blagojevich are disappearing from the internet? Those who are now blogging about this phenomenon are screen capturing articles that can no longer be found. Why is this happening?
This question refers to: http://suzyrice.com/.../
Answer: Just like they cleaned up the Concentration Camps and murdering people who disagreed with their views at his CHurchs web site hang on I'll find it for you.
[Not sure what's worse here, if the question or the answer...]