The whole thread is actually kinda beautiful, as HS said, if our logic is so extremely flawed, then why not counter any of what we say? No, instead we get commentary like this:
“And now this is where the site "Fundies Say the Darnedest Things" has ended up: at a loss for material and taken over by TIM coomers whining about feminists. Religious fundamentalism is still a threat in many ways, but apparently the movement against it no longer has room in their porn-addled brains to give a fuck about anything beyond threats to their fetish. It really reminds me of how many people have observed that all the "LGBT" orgs went off the rails after they achieved their goal of legalising gay marriage and suddenly became the attack dogs for the anti-gay/lesbian transcult, apparently no longer caring that homophobic oppression still exists.”
Yeah. Right. Our “porn-addled brains”. And what fetish do you even talk about? You seriously think we are coomers with a fetish for transpeople (because otherwise we would not defend them)? Are you really that enormously dense? We are clearly still posting dumb and dangerous stuff that religious fundamentalists say, or that sexists say. I would argue that incels are still much more often commented on here than you “ovarites”, but don’t worry, you are doing a fine job catching up! It also becomes more and more apparent who you think are your “allies” in this, and if not for the disastrous consequences for the rest of society I would love for them stabbing you in the back, which they will do sooner or later. Oh and it’s absolutely magnificent to be called sexist by fucking TERFs of all people, the same TERFs that also say not a few sentences later:
“Maybe the movement should have just banned men. Not serious, but maybe kinda. Men ruined it. And women did a lot of the heavy lifting in the important gains against fundamentalism, regardless of religious status: The lead plaintiff in the Dover trial was a woman (Tammy Kitzmiller), and the testimony of star expert witness Barbara Forrest was the most important in the trial. As the author of Creationism's Trojan Horse, which was about exactly these arseholes and their strategies, she was so formidable that the creationists tried to stop her from testifying, lol. They knew she would sink them.”
The hypocrisy is reaching incel level, and you never go full incel! Oh and just like other times senpais notice us, they try to challenge us by stating that they are “not fundies”, stating that this word is exclusive to religious fundamentalism (but they can’t help themselves to then say that transpeople are more fundie than they are). We know. But your worldview resembles religious dogma more and more, so fundie is an appropiate descriptor.
And don’t get me started on their consistency:
“They are so delusional, and their dogma is why they lost me as an ally. I'm an atheist but their gender crap reeks of very strict religion. (Sorry to any religious folks in here; I grew up in a conservative, religious household and personally, I really didn't like it.)”
“For a lot of people, the sole reason they are on Team Trans is because they think the only people opposed to transition are religious. I see similar "logic" being used in Eastern Europe when it comes to gay rights. A lot of people think the only reason to oppose is religion, so therefore they support it just because they hate Christianity so much.”
So what is it, are we religious gender fundies or atheist anti-religious to the point of allying with anyone who is against religion too? Or is it simply whatever makes us look worse? Fucking Christ!
Hey TERFs, we are posting stuff by you not because we are trans-fetishists, nor because we are hating women, nor because we are extreme atheists, nor because we are in reality deeply religious, nor because of some dogma. We are pro-trans because that’s what you are with a bit of empathy and the ability to understand and accept the scientific evidence as well as the personal experiences of transpeople. So here is a challenge to you: Explain to me why we found differently developed brain structures in transpeople that both partly resemble and partly not resemble brain structures that are usually found in the opposite sex to their body’s sex? Explain why you are so desperately focussed on gender essentialism, when in nature there are tons of different gender expressions in humans, XY-Women with testosterone ineffectiveness for example, intersex people etc.? As a biologist I can tell you why: Because there are no clear limits between women and men, there is a spectrum of sex expression caused by a very complicated sex differentiation system that easily doesn’t quite work as intended. That’s what we know and you try to ignore. Lastly, even if it wasn’t the case, all the reasons you give for why you hate transpeople are focussed on irrational fears, misandry and worst of all, personal inconvenience. Those are NOT actual arguments. So you see, it is indeed you who are substituting reality with your own. Congratulations, you are on par with religious nuts and incels. You must be so proud.
And therefore we will continue to post your inane discussions here. Deal with it.
