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Re: Survey results released December 10/18: 76 percent of Australians - both men and women - say men are victims of sexism

Typical feminist propaganda article. Where to begin? Let's see...

The survey painted a complex picture of gender equality, with 76 per cent of men and women saying men are victims of sexism, and 45 per cent of men and women believing that feminism has gone "too far" – despite the survey also finding that 60 per cent young women in Australia have suffered gender inequality, from sexual harassment to workplace discrimination.

Funny how after the survey reveals the percentage who feels that men experience sexism, and that feminism has gone too far, the author still states, "despite" and then citing the percentage of women who have suffered gender inequality. Maybe I'm nitpicking, but what is the purpose of the "despite"? Is the author implying that because women are suffering gender inequality, people feeling that men experience sexism is somehow something that should not make sense? This seems like an example of zero sum game mentality. "Because women face shit, people feeling that men face shit is wrong."

Let's continue.

One factor is the dramatic economic changes fuelled by globalisation which has created a growing male underclass who are not sharing the fruits of prosperity. These men are doing it tough, and for them – she believes feminism can be an easy scapegoat. However, their plight is the result of fundamental economic changes, not feminism, Dr. Lumby points out, citing the disappearance of the traditional blue-collar manufacturing and mining base in her hometown of Newcastle.

Ah the old, "feminism is good, guys, I swear!" mantra.

These men would be better off demanding action from political leaders for better labour rights and conditions, but alarmingly, politicians around the world are increasingly exploiting the politics of male grievance for electoral gain.

What does she have to say about politicians who do the same for female grievance? "Brave", would be my guess. No acknowledgment of issues tat needed to be addressed, either. So of course she is surprised when politicians find out that there is some ground here that be run upon, and maybe improve the lives of their constituents.

Some are increasingly prey to not just the darker side of social media which legitimises and amplifies the politics of male resentment – she cites the incel movement and the more radical fringes of the Men’s Right movement - but the rise of charismatic speakers such as Canadian academic Jordan Peterson. For all its positive campaigns such #MeToo, social media can also “sharpen differences and this creates echo chambers.”

Nice analysis lol. So after guys getting told their voice doesn't matter, and #believeallwomen and all that jazz, she's shocked they retreat to the only spaces where they don't get told that they're useless and not needed? And not only that, but she can still put the blame on those movements as if they started this shitstorm. Give me a break. Again, no word on the negatives of #metoo. She still thinks it's a perfect thing that happened.

So why then do almost half of both men and women believe feminism has gone “too far”, according to the survey? Dr Lumby believes that this has a lot to do with how people define the label “feminist” - many associate it with radicalism and man-hating.

I wonder why. Again, no introspection on the feminism movement in the real world. She is able to pinpoint the extremes of men's groups, but not feminism, no that's untouchable! "Feminism is perfect" mentality is still strong here.

Dr. Lumby believes the negative view of feminism is part of wider backlash against the strides made by women and other minorities in recent years, spearheaded by disenfranchised men claiming reverse discrimination. This growing culture of victimhood is built on male resentment over being forced to share power, she believes. To them, giving slices of a pie to others – women, people of colour, migrants, asylum-seekers – means less pie for them. This is despite men still dominating the levers of power, be it in politics or the corporate world, she points out.

And she knows this, how? Has she asked those people and did they state that they don't want to give up a slice of their pie? Nice projection. This is a shaming tactic, to make people think that the backlash is because they're racist or sexist or whatever. No sources, no evidence, just wild claims all around. This is your feminism in media, folks.

Men may have workplace challenges but they don’t face “the fundamental structural discrimination that is structured into the workplace and our world. Women deal with [it], people of colour deal with [it]. It’s not ad hoc.”

"You may have issues, but we are still more oppressed, so we have priority. kthnx bye." Look, the professor of the survey is not totally stupid, she is able to recognise some things that are happening in the real world.

It’s a tough time to be a young man, she says.

So why then is to so hard to ask why? And investigate why? Instead of making bogus claims about men being sexist and racist, she could have gone deeper and maybe, and I know this is a weird thing to do but, ask men for their thoughts instead of putting hers into their minds?

Many incels are neurally incompatible with the female personality

This is a topic which has earned some coverage in a lot of the 'proto-blackpill' manosphere communities of their day, and some which relate to it here, but I think it might be worth encapsulating into a more poignant declaration. That is, to address the seeming disparity ( From an outsider's perspective ) between the idealistic yearning to the harsh reality and bring them into reconciliation.

And that is, many of the men who are in the incel demographic ( And I say many because you can still be incel and possess a heavily neurotypical mindset or adhere to certain Bluepilled doctrines ) are both neurodivergent enough, introspective enough and wise enough ( regardless of cognitive ability ) to automatically set themselves completely apart from the spectrum of coexistence with femininity. More succinctly, hypergamy and unattractiveness aside, they just don't have what it takes to put up with the myriad faults of female nature and wouldn't actually be able to find common ground with women even while passing initial mate selection, despite instinctively yearning for the sex or affection.

In a Chad's body, they would be forced to emulate the lifestyle of the exalted Redpiller ideal, the plate-spinner, who pumps and dumps yet never settles down because he is disillusioned with women's behavior as people ( for good reason ) and can't really tolerate all the nonsense or immorality that comes with 'committing' or trying to love one. The 'girlfriend' of his dreams his a mirage, an organism that does not actually exist on earth, a unicorn that acts like a man, not like an actual homo sapiens female.

But let's elaborate more on what that female personality is, and why most of the incels who are, and I'm searching for a term which is actually hard to put into words here - who are ruminative ( a synonym of wise, actually ), not as impulsive, who find themselves operating in a mindset of taking a few minutes in any new situation to existentially ponder the meaning, consequences and rightfulness of their own decisions and those of others ( Something which is predominantly an atypical masculine and non-feminine approach by the way, just look at the gender of most philosophers ), if you find yourself resonating with that, then it is very likely that you will not resonate with femininity under any circumstance.

Any so-called 'potential partner' is going to be predictively broken up with just by witnessing her actions for a minute, before it even has to come to it physically, just like a calculator has the results to your math equation before you even finish going through the motions. The gap between masculinity and femininity is wide enough that keep in mind, even among NPC's, normies, with only a tinge of 'positive masculinity' at it's finest and a flat 0 at Wisdom score, it is still the number 1 factor in the breakup rates of couples and why they change relationships like socks. Whether it be the man realizing he's being used as a status object and getting sick of it or the woman deciding he isn't good enough for her anymore, they just either didn't have the foresight to see it or they never actually cared and well long-term plate spinning ( Or Chad-fishing ). Look at how surprised some of the participants in say, Jersey Shore are, when their relationship which was built on superficial normie trash breaks down over superficial normie trash. Does it surprise anyone else? Here's a secret for the smug women and bluepillers reading this - you are merely one level above them. Your superficial relationships founded on social status, body language, 'ambitions' and looks ( as much as you hate to admit it ) are just one tiny iteration above tan spray and club swagger.

Now let's elaborate more on what is female personality and why it's so discordant to any man who can't bring himself down to it's level. First of all, when I say female personality, I mean it - there is literally just one, it is, contrary to all protestations, a monolith. You know who's the chief proponent of this theory? Women. Every time a woman tells you "You don't understand what women want", or "No woman is ever going to touch you with a 10-foot of stick if you do X" and "Women like a man who is BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH" and "You creep women out when..", they're all confirming it. I bring it up to them every single time that they make an affirmative statement about women, and they always remain speechless.

Liking one horror movie over the other or preferring hiking over Netflix, being a ballerina or psychologist, wearing this crop-top instead of those short-shorts, political alignment, religion, none of these are necessarily core personality differences. You could manufacture a robot that does all of the above combined, programming to vote and to recite lines from books ( AKA female ideology and spirituality ) included. When it comes to truly 'groundbreaking' distinctions, AWALT. All the female dating profiles on reddit might as well be procedurally generated templates of each other, starkly separate from the male ones. When it comes to opinions, when is the last time that the women of AskWomen, of TrollX, of IT, of CreepyPM's, of Tumblr, anywhere, had a major debate or fracture over something to the extent male demographics do? What's the number of women coming here, or to ForeverAlone, or to Men'sRights ( While there are female MRA's like the HoneyBadgers, check out the ratio between female MRA's to male feminists ) or to MGTOW in order to get our perspective things in a non-confrontational way to the same extent men visit even the most radical female spaces to offer their whiteknighting support? When was the last time female IT users disagree with each other about men's role in the universe? When was the last time a woman went 'Nobody wants to date an X' and instead of getting 5000 upvotes and 'yu go gurl' from other women, got a debate from other women instead, similarly to how there are always men who would be willing to say they wouldn't mind something in a woman that even most people would, including extreme insecurities or mental illnesses or weight or clinginess or what have you? Ein gender, Ein matriarchy, Ein hamster.

Well, is the unified female monolith at least a force of goodness? It is not. Let us actually skip over the known and rehashed attributes of hypergamy, superficiality, manipulativeness, capriciousness, solipsism and frivolity which have earned femininity the scathing rebukes it's received from pretty much almost every society to ever walk the earth until the point where they leveraged sex in order to shame everyone from even thinking about doing it. Let's focus on how women perceive themselves to be on their 'best behavior', which, you might be surprised to find out, is not at all working in their favor coming as it is from a brain so philosophically bankrupt and so out of tune with the evolutionary higher faculties of ( And I don't mean intelligence, that is what they think it means, because they can't grasp it ) mankind that it doesn't realize why would anyone reject it's framework.

Pardon me in advance for the upcoming rant, but one can't really enter the female mindspace properly without it - "I want a man who has his shit together! You better have some ambitions, you better have some accomplishments if you want to be with me! I WANT ( I want I want I want I want I wannnnnnt ) a guy who isn't afraid to take what he wants, who is assertive and dominant and aggressive when he needs to be, don't be a fucking doormat, don't be NEEDY ew, although I myself am insecure about my body and need someone to motivate me for the gym and baby me in my DD/lg fetish teehee, oh and for god's sake have some SOCIAL GRACES. Be confident and charming, don't you know how important social graces are? I want a functional man, not a boy, you have to know what you're doing."

Speaking of the monolith, can you find any female profile on r4r which isn't like that in whole or in part, in spirit if not in the explicit and intentionally highlighted priorities? Try it. Now, the average woman looks at the above and thinks to herself "Yass queen SLAY", this is peak performance to her. She considers this to be the most wholesome, deep, reasonable attitude humanly attainable. Thanks to the decadent evil empire and gynocentric atmosphere that we've been under the spell of for a long time now, maybe even you might fail to see the absolute sewage that underlines the gung-ho tirade at first glance.

You know what I see? I seen an application for a sycophantic leech, not a love interest. A total obsession with materialistic, external pursuits and one's position in the societal rat race due to incapability of actually loving anyone for who they are as opposed to what they do, and seeing them as 'success objects' in the same vein that women complain of men only evaluating them as 'sex objects'. I see a total bratty, undeveloped obsession with one of philosophy's biggest vices ( Big surprise, remember the role of women in morality and philosophy? ) - judging a book by it's cover rather than it's content and caring to an extreme length about how someone says something as opposed to what they're saying, which is part and parcel of hindbrain herd behavior. Women are under the impression that their fanatic obsession in that regard is a virtue, and that a good man is one who adapts to it rather than discounts it. It is not, there's a reason why it doesn't figure so prominently in men's dating profiles. And finally, yet another glaring whimsical and infantile female habit which they credit to their superiority - the lack of willingness to give someone any leeway or acceptance whatsoever, to put principle and ideal above ego and feelings, once again, a cornerstone of advanced morality. And once again, something that almost every man instinctively does for women. Put aside the 'muh social skills' ( Or more correctly, women skills, because they're the only ones demanding all the crazy eggshell-stepping ) and 'muh assertiveness', and put themselves in the shoes of the other side, and try to find goodness at the most fundamental level that it really matters, because they have this non-Darwinian sensation and guideline deep down inside of "I should be magnanimous moreso than I am judgemental". Does that ever happen? You can tell from the dating profiles, the answer is obviously not. And that's what makes the female personality what it is.

And this is just one sliver of the grander shit-show. Plenty has been written about the shit-tests even once you're already in a relationship, the double standards, the branch-swinging if you ever fail the shit-test, the mental games, and all for what - the craved female submission state, which let me emphasize, is not 'love' in any sense. The condition which is reached whereupon the female has deemed you to be a successful status/gene leeching target and begins feigning ( Naturally she'll say it isn't feigned, until you stop being Chad to her, and become her "abusive and toxic ex" ) all the sticky affection and sexual favors associated with the 'positive' aspects of female personality, like a colorful and inviting carnivorous plant attracting a fly inside. But any incel which understands the entire process, upon it's carnal pros and philosophical cons, is also one who will never be compatible with a woman, even if he attained physical desirability.