( mathlover )
The real test of repulsion is the fact that men know that TIMs absolutely are men but think the TIMs should use womens bathrooms, changing rooms, etc - where they have to acknowledge that TIMs are the same sort of people as all other men. And that is what is repulsive.
Actually, I’ve seen several polls about those sort of things, and one thing was consistent: men were ALWAYS less accepting of trans people using the facilities corresponding to their gender. Sometimes they were less accepting than women by quite large margins, even.
The kicker? Unlike what you might expect, women were more supportive of trans women (yes, your "TIMs") being in women’s bathrooms etc. than men were! Yes, it was men, not women, who were less likely to think trans women should be allowed in female bathrooms!
( MagnificentMildew )
I personally don't think a legitimately straight man can be attracted to TIMs: no matter how well they pass, the penis should turn them off.
Oh for fuck’s sake, not this shit again. Well, I’ve said what I think about that a sufficient number of times here on FSTDT that I really don’t see much point repeating myself again.
However, I've thought that it would sort of make sense that men like TIMs. TIMs are basically acting out men's fantasies of what they WANT women to be like, or what they THINK women are like, right? So awfully enough I think it actually tracks that men would be lusting over men acting out collective male fantasies.
Right, and cis women never act in a way that meets male fantasies. They never sexualize themselves. And they never have a fantastic view of what women are (supposed to be) like foisted upon them by something like society. “True women” never succumb to peer pressure… and whoever heard of women having, say, eating disorders or body image issues due to unrealistic beauty standards?
And has anyone ever heard of women suffering abuse and not reaching out for help because they were taught that this is their place in the world and what they deserve?
No, ma’am. Never happened. That would be silly, right?
Seriously… have these TERFs ever spoken to an actual, live woman? I thought they were supposed to be women themselves (bar the occasional Glinner)? Radically aware women who fight to change those things, even?
Or maybe they just completely fail to connect these things, because the idea of cis and trans women being comparable in any way at all is just completely unfathomable and alien to them (not to mention deeply against their preconceived notions). I’m guessing that’s what we’re looking at here.
( proudcatlady )
Yes, most of the time when men’s mouths are moving they are lying. Men are absolutely attracted to TIMs. I think most straight men are. I don’t think men’s sexuality works like women’s at all. I think straight genuinely does mean attracted to visible femininity for men rather than an attraction to a body type.
Men won’t admit this just like they won’t admit that most of them are pedos deep down or that most of them would like to skip the whole consent thing (or maybe even would get extra enjoyment from skipping it). They lie lie lie. But pornhub statistics don’t lie. And male behavior doesn’t lie.
Holy shit.
I thought about making a quip about men apparently being some sort of extraterrestrial species according to this person, but this deserves another sort of answer:
Lady, you’re mentally ill. Please get help as soon as possible.
I am not saying that in any sort of pejorative or mocking way; no, I actually think proudcatlady here is a very disturbed and unwell person who needs some serious mental health help before she deteriorates further and harms herself or others.