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WERTYUL #fundie

“All I'm trying to say is that segregation was for the good of ALL americans, black and white.”
Because the front seats were just as desirable as the back seats?
The black toilets were cleaned just as often as the white toilets?
The black water fountains had water as chilled as the white ones?
They spent just as much money on textboosk in black schools as white schools?
I think you’re just a teensy bit too willing to lie to yourself.

"And, in a way, slavery was good for the blacks, at least for a short time.”
The all-expenses-paid cruise to the Bahamas, I’m guessing? How many died on that trip?

“It's not as if the Africans were a peaceful, civil people. No, they were savage, unknowing barbarians.”
Is this from a Trump-approved history book?

“They practiced polygamy.”
Okay. So, left to themselves, you’re saying black people had multiple commitments and sexual liasons.
But we SAVED them from that, by enslaving them, and selling them to people like Thomas Jefferson. Who had six kids by his white wife, but four additional kids by his black slave.
There’s a whole LOT of light-skinned blacks that testify to the fact this was not a rare situation. Slavery saved no one from polygamy, assuming that would have been a justification for it.

"They were extremely male dominant, to the point of abuse.”
You mean, like America? The place where white people STILl argue that accusations of raping your wife are impossible?

"We CIVILIZED them.”
I don’t really think of us as civilized, yet.

“And, even if the europeans got some cheap labor, it was the blacks that benefited the most.”
I’d like to see the math on this.

TFCDR #fundie

“Christ is coming again soon.”
That’s a prophecy from the same book you get creationism from, you fucking idiot. Not a prediction derived from Genesis.
And even if it were, it hasn’t come true YET, so it’s not useful in validating creationism as a science, is it?

“As long as there are scientists operating with an agenda to disprove God”
Holy crap, that’s not a possibility. ‘Science’ is officially and definitively neutral on the subject of gods. No one can use science to disprove gods. Anyone who understand science, which is covered about the second day of scientist school, would never make such a claim.

“Many scientists in investigating evolution etc”
Evolution et cetera? What else are you thinking is included in the “etc.”? I’d guess the Big Bang?

"have come to Christ once they realized the foolishness of evolution... it's a statistical impossibility.”
So, biologists (which they’d have to be to be investigating evolution) come to understand evolution enough to see how it works AND THEN reject it as a math problem?
I have doubts.

janoycresva #sexist

Jesse Watters #wingnut

How does that last bit not ultimately mean “I want us to take over the entire world, no matter what”?

Andreas von Rétyi and Fidesz #conspiracy

YourChild #fundie

“If you are one of those that doubt the existence of the devil”
Devils, I’d say. I doubbt the gods, the devils, and the demigods.

“then let me start off by saying that the devil is real”
Oh. Why didn’t anyone SAY so? I’m convinced!

“and he is sly... so slick that he has deceived you into doubting his existence!”
So your proof that i’m wrong about not believing in any devils is the fact that i don’t believe in devils.
Gonna need at LEAST a pitchfork, please.

"The devil is a deceiver and he is so smooth at shoving thoughts into our heads that a lost soul without God in his/her life will not be able to discern between their own thoughts, and those from the devil.”
So, your proof for god is that YOU don’t disbelieve the devil…
Brillig.

"I will show you what I have experienced and you will judge for yourself,”
I judge that your anecdotes aren’t any more compelling than anyone else’s story.

"If you conclude that the devil exist then you surely cannot doubt the existence of God. There is good and there is evil.”
Why? Why does good demane evil/
We can have good and a whole bunch of stages of ‘not as good’ under than, and get to neutral, and then stop. Why must both exist?

"This right here is called logismoi. It is the process where your thoughts do not originate from you...they originate from the devil.”
You could start with any reason to think it’s POSSIBLE for thoughts inside my head to not originate inside my head.

"The devil can put thoughts into your head and is always trying to tear you apart.”
And yet, I havce never raped any attractive women, I’ve never murdered the most annoying idiot, You say i’m helpless against him and the worst he’s had me do is drive about 9 miles over the speed limit.

“The devil hates you and he wants you to be depressed, down, sad, lonely, rejected...”
I sought help. Much better now, thanks. Odd how a therapist can defeat the devil without even mentioning gods.

“he wants you to always think that you cannot make it,"
No, i’ve been pretty optimistic most of my life, including my atheist period.

“you're unworthy,”
My wife said YES! Take THAT low self-worth!

“you're a reject,”
This sounds more like what the christains want me to think until i come back to the church.

“you're weak,”
Yawn.

“you're hopeless,”
I do crossword puzzles in ink, loser.

“ no one likes you....
No, I’m pretty popular and i can see that.

“all these thoughts are from the devil!!!”
I could care less. Not much less, but meh.

Afrofrycook #dunning-kruger

When someone sleeps with a minor and you call them a pedophile, there are people that will claw their way to the microphone to point out that the individual is an ephebophilief, not a pedophile.
This kinda reminds me of those people.
As you ALMOST point out, the word has a different meaning today than it had in the 30’s. But yeah, go ahead, WE’RE stupid for identifying someone as a mamber of a political party that’s been in hiatus for a while. An important distinction. You should feel smug.

Elizabeth #transphobia

“Those so called professionals were so captured by the gender lie, or too cowardly to fight against it,”
Did you say the word ‘malpractice’ where they could hear it? Try that. If they think there’s the SLIGHTEST chance you might havce a case against them, they might back off.
On the other hand, if ALL the actual science supports THEIR actions, and they have no fear of a malpractice suit hitting them, YOU might want to reconsider your stance on who’s telling ‘the lie.’
I mean, if yuo won’t LOOK at the actual science, check the power of the purse.

ANPC International #crackpot #wingnut #conspiracy #mammon

Jesse Watters #wingnut

BurdensomeCountV3 #elitist

In “Babylon 5″, the Minbari have a caste system: Warrior, Worker, Religious. The Workers build & maintain the foundation of Minbari society, including their ships, the Religious are the administrators as well as maintain the spiritual & cultural core of Minbari society, and the Warriors crew the ships which defends Minbari society. They are all equal, as proved by their ruling body the Grey Council consisting of nine Minbari: three Warrior caste, three Worker caste, and three Religious caste. Question:

Are you equal to Don Old Fart and Elongated Muskrat, that which is Burdensome to them…?!

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia

Afrofrycook #dunning-kruger

That which hates those who are trans: as proved by that inaugurated nary a week ago. I’m a leftist. I don’t hate LGBT people.

Pink Triangles more than destroys all your opinions, OP.

Afrofrycook #dunning-kruger

A certain someone who fought against actual Nazis: as a P-51 pilot in the USAAF he shot down five Luftwaffe planes in one day, and even fought with the Resistance against Nazis in France.

Gee: I wonder why Gen. Chuck Yeager refused to endorse Don Old Fart…?!

…and it can’t be purely because of that… thing’s cowardice when he got the call re. Vietnam. Yeager served in that as well as Korea.

He who had The Right Stuff was intelligent enough to understand that. You aren’t.

Afrofrycook #dunning-kruger

Elizabeth #transphobia

Or maybe “multiple doctors, teachers, psychiatrists, and even a few psychiatric institutions” know what they’re doing and are not helping your ‘gender lie’ — with good reason.

Thebe Liza: “I felt such gratitude and relief when President Trump issued this executive order. It proves we, again, have a president who just like us PITT parents have ‘a late elementary school understanding of biology’ as some of our opponents say! But that’s a GOOD thing! Why make it more complicated than ‘Penis at birth: A male! Vagina at birth: A female! And as Metallica sings it - nothing else matters!!’”

Jesse Watters #wingnut

@Conscience #216555

Exactly. He plans on funding his tax reform through destroying *Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security and rerouting funds destined for those programs to other programs he deems more “necessary”. And when no one can afford to buy anything because they are maxing out their credit cards and emptying their savings accounts, pensions, 401Ks, and drawing on any source of income just to afford food and basic medicines, we will see what that does to the economy.

*He especially wants to target funding for disability services. Shocker, huh?

Andrew Tate #wingnut

@Skyknight #216531
Some have opined that Vance will try to invoke the 25th on Trump, due to evincing no loyalty to Trump whatsoever.

What if Vance tries that but fails, sort of becoming Goldstein to Trump’s Big Brother. Then even the military and law enforcement is divided into Team Trump and Team Vance, potentially leading to US Civil War II……

ANPC International #crackpot #wingnut #conspiracy #mammon

@Conscience #216557
ANPC is a scam, unsure if they're scamming the sovereign citizens or try to convince others to be sovereign citizens

Or they’re trying to convince as many as possible to become sovereign citizens, so they get more sovereign citizens to scam.

Afrofrycook #dunning-kruger

J6 and the end of Trump’s time as the 45th president should have been the end of Trumpism. However……

Jesse Watters #wingnut

Jeff Joestar #racist

Jormungandr #kinkshaming #homophobia

“What about if the guy in question wrote a drama of a much older guy, e.g. his late twenties/early thirties, lusting after a sixteen/seventeen year old naive girl, to much "critical acclaim"?”

You mean like Lolita? Once again, an homophobe appears to forget that whatever stupid or harmful things some gay people do, some straight people have done, a hundred times over, with little to no consequences.

I do not mind calling out queer people who behave in harmful ways. I am just annoyed when straight people get a free pass for doing the same things.

Jesse Watters #wingnut

Canada. At first I wanted it, and I tried to divide it into two states. And then I realized we'd be adding Montana basically for the Republicans, and electorally, like, a Texas for the Democrats, and I don't like that. But the fact that they don't want us to take them over makes me want to invade. I want to quench my imperialist thirst

Did you ever stop to think…hey, maybe Canada doesn’t want to be annexed?

losthere #fundie

🌞Xǝgis #crackpot #magick #ufo #conspiracy

I don't really have the patience to try it, but I'd hazard a guess this is about just writing a paragraph with a word randomizer would look like.

And man, might just be that I like the machines, but any time I see this woo nonsense about "increasing X's vibration" I always think about just plopping whatever it is in a giant pain mixer/rock tumbler.

Could you just imagine some idiot strapped to a giant pain shaker screaming "I I I I'm a a a ach e e eving ing ing ing enl i i iight en ment t t t t!"

Afrofrycook #dunning-kruger

I can’t decide if he is complaining because the left are pushing people to be nazi’s by promoting woke policy that the right dislike or because he doesn’t understand that nazi’s branded themselves socialist because socalism was more popular.

Either way he is very wrong.

🌞Xǝgis #crackpot #magick #ufo #conspiracy

Afrofrycook #dunning-kruger

The only side that loves nazis emulates them. The other sides loves knowing nazis lose wars. And didn't vote DJT

Afrofrycook #dunning-kruger

Naziism lost the war but the ideology lives in far right authoritarians

roger_pearse #fundie

“Simply adopting the values you find around you is a pretty irrational way to determine what the universe is,”
Like accepting the ten commandments without question? I’ve at least spent quite a bit of time thinking about my moral standards. You just said, ‘Halelujah’ and signed on the bottom.

"how we should live, etc.”
Yeah, i didn’t just pick up everything around me.

“Atheists would make good Nazis;”
One of the things i picked up was that the best morals harm the fewest people, so, no, not Naziism.
Hey, do you have an actual argument or is this jsut name-calling?

“good communists;”
Yawn.

“ good little anythings, really.”
If that were true, wouldn’t we be christains?

“What they don't do is adopt a rational evaluation of all this.”
We disagree with you, that doesn’t make us irrational.

Hiram #fundie

“I'm sure I will be labled a homophobe, but that would be a lie! I have no fear of homosexuals”
That’s not the full definition of homophobia.
A phonia is an irrational fear or hatred of something.
Since you think homosexuals are discrete from lesbosexuals, you’re clearly not rational on this topic.

But, can you show us in the doll how your rationally threatened by gays existing?

various commenters #transphobia

@ShatteredGlassSkywarp #216577

You’re not wrong about the last two things you mention, but TERFs do regularly condemn anti-feminists / misogynists. Hell, they hold them in utter contempt, and we have had plenty of examples of that even submitted to FSTDT as part of TERF rants against transfolk.

However, this:

It's more usurping the term feminist to gaslight left wing feminists into going against their cause through amplifying their bigotrirs.

There you seem to ascribe to them a sort of basically evil motivation and meticulous planning that they just don’t engage in — at least not when it comes to this. They are not like, say, Andrew Anglin or the alt-right masterminds.

How are TERFs trying to gaslight left wing feminists into going against their cause, when TERFs by and large consider *themselves* to be left-wing feminists, even if disappointed ones? And when TERFs see the only true left-wing feminist cause as being the TERF cause?

Gaslighting is a term with a meaning, and it seems to me that you’re not using it in any way that’s close to its actual meaning.
This is something that’s actually really common; that term has seen a lot of abuse and misuse by various people, especially those who didn’t really understand what ‘gaslighting’ actually is.

That said, there is a conscious manipulative effort that many TERFs engage in, but not of the sort you allege. Instead, it’s a recruitment effort that a lot of TERFs do among family and friends, by slowly giving them a drip of carefully-dosed information from a TERF perspective. It starts off as palatable and almost agreeable, then becomes increasingly mask-off as the person being recruited gets more radicalized into eventual TERFdom.

That’s not gaslighting, though. Just plain old manipulation and a form of ‘grooming’ (in the non-sexual sense). And even that is conducted with the sincerest belief by the TERF recruiter that what she’s doing is good — for women and for the world. That she’s not doing a malicious deception, but rather that she’s just opening the person’s eyes to “the truth”.

“The order is fantastic.”
He’s got so many orders from so many sources, going out so fast with zero oversight, it’s inevitable he’s going to write something that contradicts THIS order and makes everything worse (for you guys). He’ll outlaw all gender entirely, or drop a comma and make everyone in the country a woman, or end gender-specific bathrooms. Not the intent, but someone’ll read it that way and it’ll be supported in the plain language and you people are going to absolutely lose your shit.
I watched my billion-dollar company write a contract and use the wrong verb, cost us MILLIONS for one software project. And these were Lawyers. Trump’s letting anyone with spellchecker write these things.
You’ll wish you’d had a democratic setting sooner or later.

NeverWorried #fundie

“If the Childrens of gay parents become gay themselves, i think that says everything into itself.”
How do you say into yourself? What the fuck are you trying to say, there?

Anyway, grammar aside, if ten percent of the population is gay, that’s ten percent of the children raised by STRAIGHT parents turning gay. If ten percent of the children raised by gay parents turn gay, you’ve established nothing. Except that some humans will be gay.

“gays should not be able to raise a family, they will be teaching the wrong things in life. the morality of human nature.”
You think people who believe in an invisible sky fairy ought to be raising impressionable children? Be very careful when you start limiting that freedom.

“Male to Male / Woman to woman IS just WRONG, dont care how you slice it.”
How about ‘none of your fucking business?’ I care about that slice. It’s not your place to decide what’s wrong.

“If you cannot pro-created as a couple then you should be denied the right to raise a family.”
If my wife is barren, WE can’t adopt? Fuck off.

"simple as that. i know that there are couple male and female who cannot pro-create, but at least they can and they are a male and female.”
You’re stepping on your own dick, here. They cannot but they can?

“you dont see two male animals pro-creating do you?? of course not, it would mean the end of it species.”
No one’s arguing the biology. Just the idea that your morality applies to anyone else.

“i dont care how "loving" you are, i dont care if you give the child a "good home". DENIED DENIED DENIED!!”
Okay. But this is a secular country. Is there a non-religious and non-bigoted basis for this bullshit?

“the child would be warped by your society of living, which isnt fair to the child.”
People have said the same about interreligious marriages, and interracial ones. Bigotry is bigotry and should not be legislated.

“think of the children dont think that you are doing them a good favor, because you are not!”
Uh huh. So, when do WE get to evaluate the society YOU raise kids under?

various commenters #transphobia

@Vgal #216576

I never said popularity contest. It's more usurping the term feminist to gaslight left wing feminists into going against their cause through amplifying their bigotrirs. Rarely have I heard them condemn anri feminists. Some might but then say it's still ok to wprk with them. Most others seem keen to work with anyone who hates trans people

@ShatteredGlassSkywarp #216547

This is why I say TERFs fall into right wingers pretending or pick me idiots. It's more anti feminist than pro feminist all too willing to sell out other women

And again… they are neither. There is no pretense at all, and they’re not doing this for some sort of popularity contest. Rather, TERFs are making a rational, conscious decision of accepting and working with what, in their view, is a lesser evil for women and for themselves.
Still an evil, mind you. But a lesser evil than trans women and trans rights.

@Zinnia #216517

anyone who wants a different term for the ideological junk can just say “sexist stereotype” and be honest about it.

But that would be conflating “gender identity” with “gender role” which would not be honest on our part because we see those as entirely separate concepts. (“We” being generally left-wing feminist types)

And that’s the thing… they think *we* are dishonest because we separate the two, when the TERFs even realize that we do. To them, ‘gender identity’ being nothing but ‘gender roles & stereotypes’ is the obvious truth which only a very deluded or very dishonest person would argue against.
In other words, they believe that we either aren’t being truthful, or that we’re complete brainwashed idiots.

Afrofrycook #dunning-kruger

Now, there is a "slight" point in this mess. Sure, if you want to be nitpicky, most of today's racists, fascists, and authoritarian scumbags aren't a 100% aligned with the exact platform of the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei .

That's why I usually call them Neo-Nazis. However, as the assholes in question often mimic Nazi verbiage, Nazi stances, Nazi symbolism, Nazi gestures, and praise Hitler, most people could easily forgive them commonly being called just Nazis. If it looks like a duck and all that.

Jesse Watters #wingnut

“you could project a lot of force to counter Russia through there.”
Somehow, a plan that involves ‘using Greenland as a staging area’ strikes me as a plan FRAUGHT with danger.
Like marching on Stalingrad through Narnia…

BurdensomeCountV3 #elitist

“caused by the lower classes being given more power and voice than they should have.”
Gotta think, thoser who divide the population into the MORE and the LESS deserving are, themselves, less deserving. If only to test the concept.
Would you support a system that put you at the bottom?

Afrofrycook #dunning-kruger

Afro is the average online republican, nothing odd, but stupidity is in it. 3/10 on the tater scale.

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia

a’Our oldest has fallen so far away from the family that he causes much stress.”
HE causes stress….

“Stress over … whether or not we will offend him (spoiler, we will),”
you say you’re stressed over maybe offending her, but you know and accept, in advance, that you’re going to do fuck-all to soften the blow. You aren’t meeting her half0way. You had her whole life iaid out in advance, down to this hyped-up vacation, and SHE disappointed. So
you get to play the victim.
Never mind what she’s going through without you.
Or what she’s going through BECAUSE of you.
Nope. It’s your crisis.
You’re completely right in all respects and have never been wrong, or misunderstood, or jumped to conclusions, nothing. Perfect you is crying about how crucified you’ve been in this.

Go chisel a dildo out of pumice and fuck yourself blind. I treat my idiot coworkers better than this and they’re trumpists.

Your own KID is suffering BECAUSE OF YOU, and you won’t even try to understand her motives, here.
Fuck you sideways. That’s not parenting. Not sure what the word for it IS, but it’s probably German. The opposite of Schadenfreude, where you enjoy someone else’s suffering. Here, you flaunt your suffering at another’s expsense.