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Incel4Life #sexist

“A woman's most sacred memory will always be the time she lost her virginity”
Says the guy who can’t talk to women…
Not sure how do use this information.
I mean, I can’t imagine asking her ’what’s your most sacredidily memory?’ and she says ‘our wedding day’ and I say, “Nope! Wrong! Because a misogynist says it was when a small physical trait was altered.”

“Now imagine being married to a woman who shared that moment,”
Okay.

“ that moment where she experienced the most intense emotions of her lifetime and changed from being a girl to being a woman, with another man.”
Holy crap you have hang-ups.
Not everyone cares as much about virginity as you do.
Whatever she did before we met, she found me and stuck with me for the next 41 years. Plenty of emotions have come and gone since then.
WEdding, childbirth, twins, first steps, first word (little fucker said ‘dada’ before ‘mama’ but ‘mama’ referred to either parent, ‘dada’ was ‘anyone who feeds me.’) her mom’s death and funeral, her sister’s death and funeral, son’s wedding, granddaughter’s first hug…

Idiot. ‘Orgasm’ is not an emotion.

Bro. Randy #fundie

“Some people have described pornography as the only form of safe sex.”
I can kinda see that.

“This is a lie.”
Oh. Not just disagreement, you’re calling them liars?
Okay.

“Though the odds of catching a disease through the use of pornography are lower than they are when compared to other illicit sexual activities,”
Lower?
How, in the holy name of Aphrodite, the sexy goddess of make the fuck, can you even imagine catching an STD from watching Porn?
If you’re claiming the chances are above zero, you have to explain.

“the one who uses pornography is just as subject to the judgment of God as the one who physically engages in illicit sexual activities.”

OOoooooh, I see.
Most everyone uses ‘safe sex’ to refer to methods used to prevent the transmission of STDs, or pregnancy. YOU think it’s not ‘safe sex’ if you feel lust, and God records it on your file, and thirty years afterwards sends you to Hell for that…

Okay, so it’s not a LIE to call it ‘safe sex’ because you don’t get pregnant or infection, you just have a very idiomatic definition of the entire concept of the term.

Annor #fundie

“Logically, my argument is that any alleged atheist that considers God possible, isn't truly an atheist."
Possible isn’t the same as existing.
Atheism means i do not believe in gods.
It is not defined as ‘i do not believe gods are possible.’
Swing and a miss.

“Considering possibility or not is the title of this thread is it not?”
Okay.

“Any alleged atheist that asks themselves whether or not God exists is being hypocritical.”
Not even slightly. I lack the belief, but I have not been convinced that gods could never exist. I am open to new information or observations, evidence.

“The definition of a true atheist considering God is self-defeating.”
I think you’re using a fucked-up definition of ‘atheist.’

“Before you can consider any gods' existence you have to have had granted the possibility that there was a god.”
Not necessarily. I can consider whether Batman or Spiderman would win in a fight against Cupid without thinking ANY Of them are actually real.

“If you grant the possibly of God and now deny it,”
Nope. I can examine the possibility, while still denying the reality.
Or more to the point in my case, I admit the possibility but have yet to see any evidence of teh reality.

“that doesn't change the fact that you personally considered him a possibly."
My atheism also doesn’t change the fact that I used to believe strongly.
It’s not a gotcha, opinions can change.

“Once a person gives something possibility to exist, it exists,”
No it does not.
You’re saying that people having BELIEVED in the Hindu gods means they exist?
And the Norse Gods? Greek? Roman?
‘Exist’ doesn’t work that way.

“that person gives whatever that something is meaning, definition, and recognition.”
Yep. used to play AD&D. IN THE GAME I worshiped Ki, goddesss of nature. IN THE GAME, i fought zombies, vampires, werejaguars, and Bugs Bunny (Weird campaign). They had rules, they had hit points, but they didn’t exist.

“The only possible way to be atheist, or as the person I originally responded to; "True atheist" is to not be introduced to the concept of God.”
So, to you, all babies are born atheist.

David J. Stewart #fundie

“Seeing a slut with her clothes off ought to make you mad.”
Why? Seeing her with clothes on usually leads to me thinking about her naked… Seems like a major savings in steps.

“I love the beauty of the Hawaiian islands, but I loathe and hate the whorish hula dancers.”
Not whores because they actually accept money for sexual favors, but because they show skin and you lust after them, which makes you feel guilty. That’s not the definition of whore, pillow-fucker.

“They have bad character, thinking it is OK to get naked and entice men with their bodies.”
If your eye offends thee, Davey, pluck it out.

“It is HEATHENDOM!!!”
Not everyone is Christain, bubbles.

“ If that is funny to you, you have a wicked heart!”
It’s funny to me that you’re apoplectic because beautiful women make your little willy hard, so you blame THEM.

“That's why, even though I love to play Hawaiian songs on the steel guitar, I could never play steel guitar at such spiritually bankrupt events where sluts do the hula.”
No one’s asking you to…

“Sexual immorality may seem normal for the unregenerate man, but as believers God expects us to be crucified with Jesus Christ.”
Do you imagine that Jesus approved of you assaulting your babysitter?
Was he in the room or just peering through the window?

“I AM CRUCIFIED WITH CHRIST, NEVERTHELESS I LIVE; YET NOT I, BUT CHRIST LIVETH IN ME (Galatians 2:20).”
Decaff, Davey.

“I hate evil as God told me to in Psalms 97:10!”
And anyone who makes you think worldly thoughts is evil, huh?

“I hate the lewd sluts and ungodly women who gyrate their hips for lustful men.”
I think you hate yourself, Davey, you BLAME them.

“The average person doesn't care or see any harm in such lewdness, but God condemns lust, filthy-mindedness, uncleanliness and sexual lasciviousness (Matthew 5:28; Colossians 3:5-6).”
WEird how God hates everything you do but not you…

“Hawaii is a moral cesspool of iniquity!”
Yeah, sure.

My Thoughts #fundie

"Christians are basically the minority anymore.”
Sure sure. There aren’t any Christain shows on TV, no one will vote for a Christain president, every Christain display at Xmas gets firebombed, you have to cross the state border to find a Christian church to worship at…
There are even books published for traveling Christains about what cities it’s safe to visit, which ones are dangerous after sundown for Christains. Uh huh.

“We've been forced to give up just about every right that we have because of unbelievers protesting it.”
What rights would those be?
You never had a RIGHT to legislate your religion, thus the Lemon Test.
You never ahd a RIGHT to discriminate against gays, atheists, Hindus, Muslims…
You never had a RIGHT to half the privileges you think are your rights.

“How about you do whatever you want, as long as it doesn't effect us?”
Sounds good. Get your god out of our politics.

“We're the ones who always get ran over, not unbelievers.”
Yeah, yeah sure sure.

“We're the ones losing rights and having things contrary to our beliefs constantly thrown in our faces in this world”
You don’t have a RIGHT to not be offended.

David Gibbons #fundie

“We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Ostracise Atheist”
Okay, i’m ostracised.
NO one invites me to parties. Done.
Did you mean, maybe, ‘exile’?

“(so they can live unhappily with each other and find something else to whine about).”
So, wait. You think I ‘whine’ about you and your ilk making me miserable for not sharing your superstition, therefore your solution is to make my life MORE miserable, for whining about how you’re using your superstition to miseryize my life…
Thought this up all by yourself, did you?

ou812 #racist

“The truth is, God created three races, and created them separately. The black and brown races were created in Genesis 1:26 on the 6th day of creation.
Adam wasn't created until after the 7th day of rest in chapter 2, a Strong's concordance will straiten this up for you.”
interesting. So Cain ran away and married a wife who was black or brown.
And if we have black or brown people NOW then at least two of Noah’s family were in interracial marriages…
God didn’t do a great job keeping them separate, did he?

learboy #fundie

“They are called the 10 Commandments. Check them out. What good is morality if it's only based on your own reason? That sounds pretty arbitrary to me.”
Morality is doing the right things for the right reason.
The 10C don’t give reasons.
WHY must I honor my mother and father? Is there an exception if they’re abusive? Adoption? If i’m an only child because of abortion? What if I’m an in-vitro baby, from a sperm donor, and he’s not really even slightly my father?

God says don’t seethe a kid in the milk of its mother. Why?
Jews went overboard to follow this and now won’t mix milk and dairy at all. But is that something god thinks of as a good step or an overshoot?

A list of don’t in the Bible isn’t terribly useful for morality, just behavior.

sgrimsley #fundie

“I think that separation of church and state is the problem.”
SO if we elect a Mormon president, you’ll buy a copy of the BOM out of patriotism?

“This is a sick sick world, and to condone the removal of Christ from the same doctrine that was created in His name, "one nation under God"”
The pledge?
The pledge wasn’t created in the name of any god.
‘Under God’ was from the Red Scare years, when everyone virtue signaled that they weren’t godless communists.

“seems horrid to me.”
No one cares?

“ If we, as Christ's obedient children stuck with Him instead of allowing sin and degradation of Christ to run rampit,”
Heh. Rampit.

“perhaps we wouldn't be in the situation we are in today.”
Ah. you hate that history has a liberal bias. Too bad.

“Homosexual marriage, premarital sex, telling others it's ok to believe in other gods...”
Religious freedom comes from the same amendment as church/state separation, bubbles.

“ NO! It's wrong. I can't wait for Revelations to take place, so the Lord can take us home, and out of this place.”
Door’s right over there. Godspeed.

RevLovejoy #fundie

“... you would be surprised how many scientists are scrapping the evolutionist (Cosmologist) theory”
Can these scientists tell the difference between cosmology and evolution?
And do they have evidence for this choice? Or have they just become convince you can’t be a True Christain and accept the evidence for evolution? Or the Big Bang?
In that case, i am not surprised, just disappointed.

“ and looking for new answers...”
That’s their job, even if they accept evolutionary theory.

“Your theory is not just blindly accepted as fact by everybody anymore!”
I don’t really care if it’s blindly accepted, nor if it’s blindly rejected. That’s emotional, not evidentiary.
Show me an objective reason to reject evolutionary theory.

RaptureLetters.com #fundie

Susan in Kansas #transphobia

Good lord, I just imagined If I was this paranoid about Bonespurs.
“I was watching an old episode of Friends and they had a scene where two characters were talking on a bridge! Bridge is a subtle reference to a card game! One of the elements in Bridge it playing TRUMPS!
I thought sitcoms were supposed to be apolitical! Not partisan efforts to promote a politician who wouldn’t rise to prominence for a decade or two!
What the HELL man? He’s EVERYWHERE!

AV1611VET #fundie

“Hey, evolutionists?”
Yes?

“You can't find 2,000,000 Jews in the desert, given their itenary.”
Yes, there’s no evidence for the Moses story. in fact, it looks like Egypt never kept slaves.

“So don't harp on a handful of missing kangroo bones and expect me to stay up at night wondering about it.”
Yes, there’s no evidence for your OTHER impossible bible story. But you want our failure to support YOUR first story to support the lack of…? Did you forget to take your drugs today?

“And for the record, I don't believe the kangaroo trekked to and from the Ark in the first place.”
Okay.

“I believe they were teleported.”
Another miracle necessary for the story that isn’t mentioned in the Bible, isn’t supported by any evidence, and is added to the narrative despite numerous strictures against that.

“But if you want to believe they trekked to and from the Ark, that's fine.”
I’d rather note that there’s absolutely no evidence for the Flood in the first place.

“Just don't expect me to scratch my head over why you guys can find a few that died along the way.”
Can’t.
Dude, it’s your myth, you could either support it or just pretend it’s our fault that you cannot.

“I know why you can't find them -- you don't.”
The whole book is full of myths. Matches ALL the evidence we’ve seen. Done.

Pat Goltz #fundie

“Morality is a concrete thing. It doesn't vary with the whims of a society.”
Slavery comes quickly to mind.
Blood sacrifices.
Charging interest on loans.
The Divine Right Of Kings.

"If we acknowledge that rights are granted by God (Declaration of Independence),”
A deist writes ‘by their creator’ and you read ‘From My God.’ Neat trick.

“It is written on the heart of every human being."
And every Christain authority figure that’s convicted of child abuse has these, huh?

"It is not God's morality because of the egregious and unjust penalties it imposes.”
You think immoral behavior leads to INFINITE TORTURE.
You’re in no position to judge ANYONE’S moral system as unjust.

The Antifeminist #fundie

“Wouldn't it be a kinder, more humane world,”
Kind and Humane both tend to refer to exhibiting empathy.
Okay, you want a world where we’re motivated by feeling empathy. Gotcha

“if instead of old men being crucified in public to satisfy the bitterness of hags”
Not terribly empathetic, to refer to women you disagree with as ‘hags.’

“and the repressed urges of paedocrites,”
Huh? You think i want to crucify horny old men because I want to creep on young girls?

“that teenage girls were taken to retirement homes by their teachers in order to give the lonely coffin dodgers a free suck and fuck?”
Right Off, I have to note that you don’t suggest the football team be taken on the same bus to fuck the old ladies. So, rather selectively empathy.
And if you don’t like the idea of sexing old ladies, then forcing teen girls to sex old men is the opposite of empathy.
This is neither kind nor humane, you just want one last chance at jailbait.
Like most incel fantasies, you don’t imagine attracting a woman you want some official agency or individual to bring women to you for the sex.

“But perhaps it would require the selfish maladaptive sexual psychology of women to be repaired and altered before that was possible.”
Yes, yes, no woman wants to fuck you, they must be damaged. The entire gender.
That’s an easier diagnosis than ‘you suck.’

Susan in Kansas #transphobia

“shirt years before trans anything.”
4500 BC, the Goddess Inanna had transgendered priests…
All of HISTORY is tainted by their existence… BOOGA! BOOGA!

SilverLHS #fundie

“When the prospect of hell is brought into the picture, then all earthly ideas about fairness, ….should not mean a hill of beans.”
ALL my life i’ve been told that God is the source of all morality, the lawgiver, the very essence of my having a conscience.
And here you are, saying that fairness may come from God, but it’s not useful in analyzing Hell?
Fuck that.
Pick one or the other…

Sir Francis Dashwood #fundie

“Religion is the only argument FOR faggot marriages...”
yeah, that;s coherent.

“Evolution is only possible with HETEROSEXUAL relationships.”
homosexual behavior appears in a few thousand species. it would appear that the gene pool gains some benefit from homosexua;ity, or natural selection would have trimmed it away.

“The facts of biology trump religion”
Yes, they do. it’s natural and it is at least not lethal.

tidus_rox #fundie

But note that you have to go to great lengths and violate my person in order to make sure I cannot just perceive the pen.

In the real world, though, i can go anyplace that people SAY i’ll perceive God. The beach, a field of flowers, a baby’s nursery, sex, church, a wedding… None of it gives me a reason to think that there is a supreme being.
Even you recognize that I won’t get that evidence until after I die.
Why should I worship your god NOW, though?

femonade #fundie

“but sticking your dick into a vagina AINT SEX. mm-kay?”
Well, according to a biologist, ‘sex’ is the sharing of DNA. So one-celled creatures can have sex. Men with vasectomies cannot.
According to the uniform code of military justice, all the sex crimes have the phrase ‘penetration however slight is sufficient’ to say a crime has been committed. Depth and duration are not mitigating details.
If it’s a palimony lawyer, than penis in any orifice is probably qualified as sex.
If it’s a paternity lawyer, then the penis in the vagina is almost mandatory for the claim of sex.

"its not.”
Suuuuuuuuuuuuuure, it’s not.

"since when did “sex” come to mean “men sticking their dicks into women?””
1929. Someone got tired of typing ‘sexual intercourse,’ to mean the exchange of bodily fluids, intentional or otherwise, and just started saying ‘sex.’

"someone fucked up here, people.”
HAHAHA! Good one.

YHWH #fundie

“That's right. God will not speak to a non-believer.”
Okay.
But why didn’t he talk to me when I did believe?

“ You do not exist in the eyes of God...”
Until he sends me to Hell. Got it.

“ Geez O' Man, when was the last time you opened a Bible?”
A couple days ago, looking up a quote. Pretty sure the Christain throwing the verse out misinterpreted it.

“"UNBELIEVERS ARE DEAD IN THE EYES OF GOD" Didn't you read what”
Yea, but I still don’t accept you as all that much of an authority on what God wants or does. Just your biases.

“Yeshua told his Disciples? "Anyone that does not hear your words, walk away from them." --”
And yet you’re still posting…

“Jesus was telling his Disciples. If they want me. they can come to me. And eventually they did!!”
Uh huh…

Paul Bury #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy #crackpot #dunning-kruger

“Liberals have told me they want to put all Christians and conservatives in concentration camps.”
Dude, when YOU say, ‘you want to put everyone like me in a concentration camp!’ and they say, ‘Yeah, right,’ that’s not an admission.

inverter #fundie

“The answer is that atheism is not only a belief in no God..”
Spoken like someone who doesn’t know how many atheists they know….

“It is an agenda, an ORGANIZED effort to kill any sign of God..”
I don’t know of any signs of god.
I know quite a few blatant BELIEVERS, but no sign of god.
If i saw any sign of God, i’d probably not be an atheist, huh?

“In fact every year atheists ask for funding from the government...”
For…what? When do we ask for government money to not believe in any gods?
Fuck, we don’t even have any atheist chaplains in the military.

“Oh ok, so then you are a religion.."
SCOTUS says we count as a religion for 1st Amendment protections, but that’s about it.

“Why do the heathen rage?”
Women are dying in red states because you think God wants you to outlaw abortions. Why would we POSSIBLY be mad?

“What is making them so angry?”
Theists.

“Why are they forcing God out of school?”
The Constitution.

“Why else would they come onto these boards,”
Self-defense.

“blapheme God anyway they can,”
The thrill of victimless crime?

“ mock prayer request threads(ahem..paul2),”
Your omniscient god needs to be reminded that you hope that your son comes home from war? What’s to mock? I mean, seriously, what’s left?

“spit on the Bible,”
Ah. The book that says feed the poor and welcome the refugee and so on? That Christains spit on regularly? Get off your high horse, sweetie.

“spit on faith,”
When you use it as a club, yes…

“ and generally hate all organized religion?????”
The groups that put the orange failure in office and think they’ve accomplished something for America? Must be irrational fear, huh?

Deleted #crackpot

pfta2a #fundie

“There is this assumption about pedophiles that we are all monsters, that we are all out to rape children.”
You want to sex children.
Minors cannot consent.
The sex would be rape.
It’s not an assumption.

“We enjoy children, it is easier for us to connect with them emotionally. We enjoy relationships with them. We do not want to hurt them (for most hurting a child is the last thing they'd do).”
Yeah, you only want to rape them. That’s adorable.

“Most people attracted to another adult don't want to rape that person.”
Every person I wanted to have sex at in my entire life, it would not have been rape AUTOMATICALLY. So, not comparable.

“Similarly most pedophiles (including myself) want a relationship with a child.”
With sex only being a small part of that felony, huh?

“We would not rape a child. The sexual attraction is part of it,”
Small conflict there, about the size of the Texas Oil Field…

“ but not a huge piece.”
Doesn’t fucking matter. This is like a rapist saying ‘i only raped a small part of her, not, like, her arms or legs or nothing.’

“Morally I think sex between an adult and child should be legal,”
You’re not in a really objective place to make that judgment, though.

“ as I believe a child is capable of consent”
They can’t sign contracts, they can’t make informed medical decisions, they can’t marry, borrow money, buy cars…. It’s a legal condition not ‘willing.’

“However, I do cuddle with children, hug them, tickle them, rough-house with them or hold their hands. There's mountains of evidence that touch is beneficial. As long as it is consensual (and I am very careful to make sure that it is)”
Do you TELL the parent or guardian that you’re a pedophile before you touch, cuddle, hug the child?
THE KID can NOT consent, so you’re lying, here.

soon #fundie

“Athiests come across”
I’m athy, but I’m not the athiest person I’ve ever met.

“as what i would consider satanists.”
Okay. You think Satanists tell puns, bake bread, drive an SUV at the speed limit, was one of the leaders of my kids’ scout troop, and recorded judging for the science fair of my wife’s high school? Never murdered, never drunk, no illicit drug use, never drank coffee in the Navy despite 20 years?

“Now i dont mean the ritualistic satanists”
So, the Satanists on TV that drink blood and open portals to Hell.
NOT them. Okay.

“but i refer to the fact that they are usually anti-christs.”
Pretty sure if was an anti-christ, I’d have cheated on my wife AT LEAST once.
Possibly during a visit to a foreign port…

_Origen #fundie

“Can humans and Chimps bear children through the process of arteficial insemination?”
No.

“Do we ever see any shred of evidence that man has ever at any point in time, evolved?”
Yes. When you actually READ the textbook, you see ‘this is what happened and this is how we know it.’
That’s the evidence.

“Since the hominid record has been all proven a hoax,”
No, sweetie, Piltdown Man was a hoax. And it was largely discarded BECAUSE of the hominid record before it was proven to be a hoax.

“why do we still hold on to lies that will eventually lead to communism or naziism?”
Nazi? The Nazis burned Darwin’s books.
You’re just terribly confused, here.

Henry B smith #fundie

“the skeptic must present a justification for morality in a mechanistic universe that arose from impersonal matter. THIS IS IMPOSSIBLE.”
We evolved as social beings. Our best defense against the tiger is to outnumber him greatly. The more of us that can live together, the safer we are.
So we need moral codes in order to self-regulate and allow that cooperation. Cultures that formed and reinforced moral behavior prospered, while those leaning towards selfish behaviors did not.
Selection ensured that the better operating societies lasted.
It’s all enlightened self-interest. I’ll let you play the bagpipes without killing you IFF you let me cook with balsamic vinegar… without killing me. We can pretend that God wants us to tolerate this, if that helps.

inverter #fundie

“THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY THAT WE ARE HERE WITHOUT A CREATOR!!!”
Uh huh…. And i should believe you because…?

“NONE!!”
Okay.

“NADA!!”
Repetition doesn’t really help.

“This is why I disregard all "advances" in science.”
Naturalistic science which is FUCKING SILENT on the supernatural, right? So, neutral on the ‘is there a god’ question?

“Because If scientists are going to leave their brains in the parking lot on the fact that God simply must exist if we exist.”
That’s almost half a sentence.

“then why would they use their brains for anything else.”
You dislike a stance that THEY DO NOT TAKE, so you reject the stances they DO take. That’s smart.

“We accuse you of everything you accuse us, including circular reasoning..but just one thing, WE'RE RIGHT!!”
Dude, that ’i’m rubber and you’re glue’ shit didn’t work when i was in fourth grade. That would have been, what 1971?

Deleted #crackpot

I suspect a muslim here, justifying the Koran’s treatment of dogs.
Or maybe someone whose cat got a low grade on ‘we only rate dogs’ website, i dunno.

JoJo! #fundie

“Just because I've never had sex doesn't mean I don't know anything about it.”
This is true. I’ve read fanfiction written by virgins and some of the sex scenes are AMAZING.
On the other hand, I’ve read fanfiction sex where it is OBVIOUS the author is a virgin.
So, yes, your virginity is not the only thing to take into account in weighting your statements.

“I've learned a LOT from my friends and family.”
Because that’s what I do after sex, go to the living room and tell everyone about it in crucial detail.

“And reading Brad Henning's book.”
no idea what that means.

“Oh, and uh, the Bible.”
This is the book that teaches a flat earth, that women are unclean during their menstrual cycle, and you can cure leprosy by sacrificing a lark. Yeeeeeeeeeeeeah…

David J. Stewart #conspiracy

“I stopped injecting myself with insulin!”
Type I or type II?

“Even when I was injecting myself with 40 units per day of insulin, after a few weeks of usage it had only lowered my blood sugar to around 170-200!”
A few weeks? It took me longer than that to calibrate my insulin doses to my body’s needs. You have the attention span of a lit firecracker.

“I don't care what my (former) doctor says,”
Clearly.

“I KNOW that the daily insulin injections made my toe and foot go numb.”
How?
Sugar in the blood stream tends to act like shotgun blasts. Very damaging to the tiny capillaries in your feet and your eyes. What is it you think the Insulin did to you that the sugar did not?

“By naturally eating one normal meal a day, and then eating a big salad for dinner, and perhaps an apple and a little cottage cheese for breakfast, I lowered my blood sugar to 112 mg/dl."
You ate less sugar and carbs and your blood reflects lessened sugar input.
Stunning.

“It could have been that the insulin brought out the diabetic numbness that was already in progress, I don't know.”
You just said you KNOW, all caps. pick a lane.

“But what I do know is that I wasn't having any symptoms of diabetes until I took the insulin.”
Oh, god.

“SO DON'T TAKE THE INSULIN!”
I think i’d rather take the insulin. I trust my doctor a lot more than I trust you. I trust YOUR doctor more than I trust you.

Alan Burns #fundie

“I am not an expert,”
Okay.

“but there is evidence that the physical brain can deteriorate,”
Gotcha.

“and this will have consequences on the interface with the soul.”
there’s evidence that the soul needs a physical interface?
Why would that be?
The soul is supposed to be the persistent part of my personality on Earth, right?
What if I’m an atheist for my life, and I’m in a car accident, and while I recover, I become convinced that God awaits, but my soul can’t access that information?
I’m going to be let into Heaven because an OMniscient God knows that I’m a believer, but the last I knew I was atheist?
Or the other way around?
What if my family is in an accident and all die except me, and even after a life of faith, I lie there in the hospital bed raging at God for killing Mrs. Inc and all the little Incs, and withhold worship. My soul thinks we’re still faithful, but God kicks me down to Hell for what my wounded brain chose?

"Perception of our brain cells is probably the soul's only interface with this universe.”
Ah. So, I’ve been in liberty ports up and down the coast. Sailors rush to any chance to pour pollutants into their bloodstream and cripple the brain. Seen a few happily married men get drunk enough to go home with a woman of negotiable affection. So, while their soul might be pure, it looses the access to the decision making process through alcohol? And where it might have suggested that they stay pure and hew to their wife, it can’t be heard over the toxins of the intoxicant?

And there’s evidence for this?

Deleted #crackpot

kiwi1 #fundie

“The Interesting little FACT”
Fact in ALL CAPS is a good sign for the discussion. Because it’s FACTual.

“ is that creationism and science do NOT contradict themselves at all,”
Themselves? That’s kind of a given.
DO you mean to say they don’t contradict ‘each other,’ though?
Well, that depends on how you look at it.
Naturalistic science is silent on the subject of the supernatural. Creationism depends heavily on the supernatural. Supernatural being, doing supernatural acts, using supernatural powers…
Not a real contradiction, but this is like saying ‘left-handed screwdrivers do not contradict sewing machine bobbins.’ Not a lot of overlap…

“as liberals would have us believe.”
Right, right, we’re the gatekeepers of what you accept as science.

“ Only when so called scientific THEORIES are thrown into the mix do we have a conflict.”
Dude, everything in science is a theory.

“Question: So why are do Evolutionist hate creationism?
Answer: It comes down to MORALITY....”
A lie. And a stereotype. We don’t hate creationism, we just hate how much the creationISTS will lie to get their superstition taught as a fact.

“But if we can take the Creator out of the picture then we can make up the rules.”
You make up the rules, anyway. The Bible does not condemn slavery, but many on the Union side of the Civil War thought they were doing God’s will.
And the Bible does not condemn abortion. But many wave their crosses thinking they’re doing God’s will…

TJ ThirdEye #fundie

“[Feminism] help further destroy black male and female relations”’
Hmmm. Feminists want women to choose their own destiny, you’re telling them to shut up and accept the destiny YOU choose for them.
Can’t imagine how it’s OUR problem that your relationships fail…

“because these women bought into the idea that they can do what men do.”
I think i heard this same argument about segregation. ‘because blacks bought into the idea that they can do what whites do.’

“Know your goddamn role in the universe.”
Yep. Heard that in the 60s. A LOT.

“You aint no goddess woman so get that out your head and know ur role.”
I do remember adults when I was growing up who liked otehr boxers more than Ali, because those guys ‘knew their place.’

“Man is the is the dominate force of nature;”
And whites invented civilization. Do you buy into THAT argument?

“ understand your natural place in nature. You came from man so dont buy in that bullshit. Its a man world so get over it.”
Bigotry never falls far from the tree, does it?

Dr. Doom #racist

“Do not UNDERESTIMATE the HATE that the darkie has for the White Man.”
Darkie?
My grandmother learned that term in Florida in about 1930. She insisted that ’that’s what they wanted to be called!’ and wouldn’t abandon it for most of my life.
Until she had black great-grandkids. Dropped that habit in a hot minute.

“In a second term, he is likely to abolish the Marine Corps which are Lily-White”
I was Navy. And I do love the Marines, they were invented to keep sailors from getting hurt, but they are NOT Lily-white.

“and replace them with ZULU’s Pink Panthers and Ghetto Gangbangers.”
Just pure racist feargasm…

“There is talk of Drastic Military Cuts that he will make in a second term. All the cuts will probably be White Troops.”
Most of the time I was in, they would offer early-outs for rates that were overmanned. Some, rates with ATROCIOUS promotion chances, would say, “Anyone who joined after 1975 but before 1985 can get out tomorrow.”
Some would be more limited. “Any C3 Missile Tech with less than 14.5 years in, hasn’t gone to C4 school, served on the East Coast, drives a blue pickup, and talks with a slight Cajun accent…”
I can imagine that someone would offer early outs to ‘white’ troops, but it’s still voluntary. No one has to go.

“The GOP will protest the cuts, but afterwards the darkie”
Do you wear a zoot suit?

“ will probably replace them with his kind of Turds. The New Turd Army”
Army?
I thought we were talking the Marines?
Or do you not know that Marines are not soldiers?
Your credibility was low to start with but Jesus…

“will be Totally Anti-White and armed with the latest machine guns.”
Uh huh…

“ Ready and Willing to Attack the White Suburbs and get them some of that White Pussy and Shit!”
Dude, they have uniforms. They don’t need to attack or rape to get pussy. You really should see the action right outside of any major military base.

Kurt Wise #fundie

‘"Secular scientists who fear allowing the conclusions of creationism into secaular universities have good reason to be afraid because they are accountable to the creator, Kurt Wise, professor of theology and science at The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, said on the Albert Mohler Radio Program Feb. 13.”
I want you to diagram this sentence and the sit and think about what you’ve done until you cry. JEEEEEEZ what a mess.
But the constitution STILL says you can’t teach Creationism in public schools, no matter if god approve or not.

““If it's true that there was a creation, then you realize that means there's someone in control," Wise said on the broadcast hosted daily by Southern Seminary's president."
Big if.

“"And if there was a flood-—in other words, a creator who actually judged this creation-—that means we're in big trouble.”
A creator who made man to be wicked, then punished them for being wicked, THEN repented the flood because man is just wicked by nature and the flood accomplished fuck all? Yeah, that’s a worry.

“So I think there's every reason why an evolutionist would be very frightened of creationists advocating creationism."
But they’re not. It’s strictly obeying the fucking law.

shuttle #conspiracy

“I'd like to make a statement:”
Why did you not just make the statement?

“You better hope there's a God,”
See, if i want one of my students to believe in a procedure step, i can show them the procedure. if i want them to believe in a gyroscope with no moving parts, i can offer the documentation. Discuss the science. Illustrate the physics.
I don’t just threaten them with failing the course if they don’t believe me.
The instructors I’ve had that depend on threats?
Either they sucked or their material was bullshit…

“whether or not you are an atheist, a deist, whatever, because the imminent COLLAPSE of our economy, merging of nations (New World Order) and Civil War within the United States itself is upon us.”
I do love hearing ‘imminent’ from people who are still waiting for Jesus to come back, and he said he’d be here 2000 years ago.

“If you don't know what I'm talking about, or you think it's another "conspiracy theory" post, go ahead and google it. There is no joke here.”
If there’s no joke, why am I laughing at you?

“You ever read about the Great Depression?”
Um, yes, we read the Grapes of Wrath in school.

“It's coming, and it's going to be the worst in histroy. And faster than you think. It is estimated by avid and expert investors in the Wall Street Journal that the collpase of the economy should hit the U.S. and the world itself by the middle of 2009 at the VERY LATEST.”
Noted.

“The state of California goes bankrupt at the end of February. What then?”
The mind boggles.

“To address those you think the stimulus plan is going to fix anything, do your research.”
When you say ‘research,’ you mean use google to confirm your bias, right?

“I would really not expect it, but appreciate it if you did some research before responding to this.”
Meh.

“Get your facts, because I'm only going to ignore troll posts.”
Aw, but they’re so funny!

“I expect nothing but "lol conspiracy theory" at this, but really I laugh at you. I laugh at everyone who nay says at the imminent death of the United States as all of you and I know it.”
Imminent! HA! And again, HA!

“The dollar is worth less than it has been ever, and it's only getting worse.”
Did you buy gold or bitcoin?

Rapture Ready #fundie

“ So Cain married one of his sisters.”
Yep.
So, Cain kills Abel because God liked Abel’s sacrifices.
God is pissed off at the first murder on Earth.
Cain complains that if he stays, his family is going to deathitize him as a murderer.
God, who already was mad at Cain, and didn’t like his sacrifices, gives Cain a chance to run like hell…
Cain ends up building a city with… His sister. WHo is also Abel’s sister. Who is one of the people who Cain was afraid of that were going to justifiably deathitize him.
How did he find her and separate her from the rest of the family?
How does he sleep at night, not fearing that she’ll tell EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH where he is so they can come deathitize him?
Why DOESN’T she tell EVERYONE ELSE ON EARTH where he is so they can come deathitize him?
How can anyone read this bullshit and nod and say, ‘Yeah, that’s what happened’?

Robert43 #fundie

“Why doesn't the Bible say anything about people going out and exploration of space?”
Because there is no space.
Bible cosmology is a flat Earth under a dome, water above and water below. A snowglobe turned inside out.
Every place we would go to, planets, moons, stars, sun, are all inside the sky, rolling around.
Bibleauthors didn’t foresee satellites, moon landings, mars probes, or orbiting telescopes that detect galaxies beyond human eyesight….

JohnR7 #fundie

“Pasteur shows us that if you have a theory you have to run experments and test your theory.”
Uh, no. For the scientific method, we need repeatable observations. Not necessarily experiments.

“Even Indiana Jones after his summer adventure had to go back to the lab and his teaching job."
Lab?
What Lab does an investigative anthropologist do, you think?

“Darwin never did any work in the lab.”
No, but we have repeated his observations. not a flex like you think.

“A scientiest balances his field work with research and experments in the lab to back up his results from out in the field.”
So, the astronomers up the road from here, at MIT, have to perform experiments on stellar formation, novas, black holes? Or it’s not science…? Are you Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure?

"Darwin never did any of this.”
Again, not necessary.

“He just wrote books and that makes him a philosopher not a scientist.”
He recorded observations, which is what they do at those experiments you’re railing about.

“There is nothing wrong with philosophy, but it is not science, because there is no evidence or proof for it.”
You are so wrong it’s not even a mistake.

Mike Arthut #conspiracy

“ One point is the 700 telemetry tapes, "lost"? That would be proof in itself.”
Only if you can find evidence that they were ‘lost’ intentionally, AND prove that the intent was to hide the fact that they prove a flat Earth.
A memo, maybe, ‘Whoops! Flat Earth evident on 500 tapes, better destroy 700 to be sure.’?

“Can you agree there is NO CURVATURE?”
I’ve seen the curvature.
A REEEEEEEALLY big lake in Idaho. From one shore you can’t see the other shore. Water’s in the way.
But climb the hill behind you, moving away from the opposite shore, you climb high enough to see the beach on the other side.
Or you can watch the Ferry climb up the hill coming toward you.
It’s not terribly complicated.

“We need a in-depth interview with astro-nots, concerning this matter.”
Considering how VERY BIG the conspiracy would have to be, why would you believe a gotcha-interview?

“Also, the nest, photo -op, ISIS space broadcast., I would like to see them wearing NO SHIRT. PROVING, no harness is used to portray weightlessness. We can start from there.”
Mary Roach researched a book on space exploration. One thing she noted was a porno that purported to have been filmed in microgravity. Astronauts on a space station fucking the good life from all angles. She was thinking that was a LOT of time on the 0-gravity training planes, but watching it, she noticed that a actress’ hair did not behave as if it was floating in microgravity. It’s pretty obvious if you look for it. Especially if you go back and forth between ISS videos and this porno.
That’d be a LOT of fucking wires.

Lila Rose #conspiracy #fundie #wingnut

@Croquemitaine #121560
I think it was one of the Bush presidents that wanted to produce drugs at a press conference. And his writers wanted him to be able to say ‘This crack was purchased from a dealer a block away from THIS BUILDING!’ Doom, gloom, our unsafe streets, no patriotic feelings about the White House, and go on from there.

Truth was, they couldn’t find any dealers. nowhere near. They had to get a dealer the cops knew about to agree to come make a sale for their purposes. Had to buy a bigger purchase to make it worth his time. And had to give him an address.
“What do you mean, the white house? There’s like 30 white houses in this neighborhood! Where the fuck do you want to meet?”

But no, it wasn’t STAGED.

David J. Stewart #fundie

“Abortion is the Ultimate Racism!”
So, lacking any sort of rational argument, you resort to trying to guilt the liberals into your side of the argument.

“You want to talk about racism,”
I’m quite willing to, and your take on the first closeup of the black hero of the Star Wars movie is firm in my mind.

“Abortion is extreme discrimination.”
Only those sites that encourage blacks to have abortions while Whites have to have the babies.
The whole point of abortion rights is that the woman decides. Based on her body, not the kid’s race.

"Babies have rights too!”
No, rights start at the daylight end of the birth canal.

“ Who is the Supreme Court to say that a growing child is not a human being?”
That’s not what the decision says, but what has reality ever meant to you.

“The problem is that mothers don't love God. "Thou shalt not kill" (Exodus 20:13).”
Yes, that commandment also comes from the guy that consistently doesn’t consider anything ‘alive’ until first breath. ‘And the breath of God entered him and he became a living being’ sort of thing.
Noah only saved animals that breathe through nostrils.
If you’re fighting and cause a woman to miscarry, but she’s okay, you pay a fine but it’s not treated as murder.
You are cherry picking the bible for extrabiblical political ideology.

“If you look at abortion statistics (see www.blackgenocide.org), African American women are far more likely to have abortions than middle-class White women.”
Which could mean that African Americans are less likely to be able to afford one-more-child?

“It is evident that poverty and abortion are linked.”
So you support universal healthcare and free education to fight abortion?

“The sad thing is that poor Black mothers aren't giving up their babies because they're poor; BUT rather, because the government is targeting them with PRO-abortion propaganda through organizations such as Planned Parenthood (MURDERHOOD!).”
That’d be pretty racist, David. But forcing them to have the kid without guaranteeing their ability to raise the kid healthy and educated is also adding to their burdens. So it’s not abortion that’s racist, you fuckhead.

“If you're a Black woman who's had an abortion, don't you dare cry "racism," because you are the ultimate”
So, you’re using her skin color to deny her claim of racism?
What does that make you, you blithering idiot?

Ed Poor #fundie

“There is more to a person than his human body,”
That depends on your point of view.
To a biologist, there’s the biology and that’s pretty much it.
To a car manufacturer, there’s the butt and the distance to the gas pedal, steering wheel, etc.
To an opthalmologist, there’s the eye…
To credulous, superstitious people, there’s a soul, a spirit, guardian angels…

“… and biologists have apparently decided not to study or even acknowledge aspects of human beings which make them entirely distinct from animals.”
Because they have jobs.

“ In fact, along with Feuerbach and Lenin they have ideologically chosen to assert that humans evolved naturally from animals; that's why we are animals.”
That’s not ideology, that’s the science. It’s an underlaying fact for their entire industry.

“We need not propagate the erroneous assumptions of biologists, or their short-sightedness.”
Fine. Sure. Take horse laxatives' for all I care. Just don’t pretend it’s the superior science position.

“Science is more than just physical science. Anthropology and psychology are sciences, and they are by no means required to adhere to liberal, anti-religious positions such as methodological naturalism.”
All of science is naturalistic, bubbles. Secular is not anti-religious.

“Linneaus is free to put humans where he wants. Meanwhile, God has put us where He wants. Pick a side, my friend.”
Okay. When you have evidence for God that stands up to scrutiny, let me know.

Halden_Doerge #fundie

“It is inherantly anti-supernatural and skeptical.’
All of science IS, dork.
Including the science that leads to doctors not being proud of aprons that have blood from all of their surgeries, to show their experience.
The science that leads to eyeglasses, glaucoma surgery, cataract surgery.
The science that leads to refrigeration so food lasts more than a few days.
The science that produced your car, your home heating system, your stable roof that doesn’t leak, your paint that doesn’t give your kid lead poisoning, to your water system not being lead-lined.

None ofthat came from any supernatural prayer or spell….

just spend another trillion #fundie

“Should rape be legalized?

Best Answer: of course.”
I’d really like to publish a list of every incel that votes for legalizing rape. And if he gets kidnapped by mysterious individuals, tied to a mechanical bull, and raped by a mule until he can’t come any more, then he shouldn’t have led them on.

J C #racist #wingnut #psycho

Trump lost the Iran war he started illegally, and now he wants to punish anyone he can. We have suffered nothing from refugees without a criminal record, but The Orange Bully is just lashing out.

This is not a sane administration.

“ Please, these people have to take responsibility for their actions at some point as well.”
Then you support the unredacted Epstein files being published and Bonespurs being prosecuted?

Timber #fundie

“She apologied for putting God before her family....?”
Well, i’d say that she put her BELIEF in God before her responsibilities to her family.

“Oops. Sorry, PC crowd, but God is supposed to come first...”
Political Correctness is just to prevent causing accidental offense.
You telling me that your superstition is more important than my wife, my kids, my fucking goldfish, is intentionally offensive, and PC does not correct you, nor my wish that you have anal sex with a chainsaw while prostate before the altar at your church. It’s completely intentional.

“A #1...”
Yes, which is why Paul said not to get married, and if you must, not to have kids. They distract from your faith and they may not live long enough to become Christains before Christ comes back.

“in everything. Ahead of yourself, ahead of your spouse, ahead of your kids...”
So, next time someone uses ‘but think of the children’ as an emotional appeal, they can fuck right off, I take it.

“(oh noez, he said in front of your KIDS!!!)...”
Why assume I’m hand-wringing, this is just a detail of what you already said.

“yup. That's how it's SUPPOSED to work.”
Then That’s another reason I’ll never become a Christain without significant dain bramage…

“Putting God second...even after your precious little munchkins...is a disaster waiting to happen.”
Okay.
I can’t count how many things I hold in higher esteem than your god. I have a colonoscopy in three years, I already hold that appointment higher than your god.