What ice age?

Topographical damage attributed to the movement of ice was actually caused by the world-wide Noahic flood.

Fact.

"You're being asked to point to the Bible's definition of 'kind."

why should the Bible need to give one? It rather preceded empirical specialisms. Conversely everyone [ except apparently evolutionists] knows that a frog is not a 'kind' of cow, whereas both lions and cheetahs are 'kinds' of cat. Thus, amazingly enough, it wasn't written with the scientific community exclusively in mind! However it claims to propose truth and where those truths touch on science they claim relevance. Thus for example the notion that the heavens were "unrolled like a tent" is precisely the way in which one would explain gravity to a layperson.

The Holy Bible is the inerrant, infallible, and authoritative word of God.

All other books and writings are inferior to God's word, the Bible.

Only false theories contradict the Holy Bible.

>>>'There's nothing amusing about blasphemy '
But at least it's a victimless crime.<<

It might appear so, to you. For those who acknowledge that respect and authority are important, it is a sign of the disintegration of society which leads to anarchy and all manner of evils, including rape, GBH and murder.

The consequences of 'lack of respect' for (the possibility of) the supreme being, leads to wives not respecting husbands, men not respecting leaders, leaders not respecting
ie. complete turmoil

I am a trained scientist who is also a Christian, as such I can look at Darwin's Theory and respect his evidence and his arguments. The difference betwixt myself and many of the more Fundamentalist Darwinians is this. Darwin's Theory is just that a Theory! It has not been proven despite efforts of Fanatic Darwinians to totally shut down any objective discourse on this subject.

There was possibly a good chance the ark would not have survived if it had not landed on mount Ararat some of the currents would have been horrendous when the land started to split apart under the weight of the water

If the water managed to cut through France and separate them from England then the suction must have been colossal.

So the fact that the ark ended up on the top of a mountain should help us see that the event had the hand of God on it, some one who would know all about the logistics of the situation.

re " so not being a Christian is worse than rape or genocide..."

Yes, in the final analyis.

Genesis 1 makes it clear that there is a creator. It answers the question: who are we? as if speaking to an orphan who wants to know who his real parents are. The problem with evolution is it is based on assumptions.

"the finding of noahs ark in the mountain range of arrarat is so well documented and researched that you would have to be blind and completely dumb not to even wonder why it is there just as scripture says it is.It has had the full weight of scientists and engineers from around the globe giving it the once over.The Turkish people have declared it a national monument and you are invited any time you like to go and see it.The anchor stones alone tell the story of its epic journey as well as scripture."

[Upon being asked to name the scientists he responds with]

ok,Dave,Jerry,peter,samuel,harry.oswald,tim,Barry Peter and james.

[Another poster then explains that he cannot name any scientists to which he responds with]

"hands up,its a fair cop guv

allthough you need to do your own research to prove that the Ark in question is not the ark,the proof that it is the ark has allready been established as i said.If you want to investigate the real scientific evidence used to identify the vessel yourself you are free to do so as the evidence is in the public domain."

Evolution is a stupid theory because it does not know what and why it does. But that does'nt stop a lot of people believing in stupid theories. Nothing in the universe exists without purposes, other wise the universe could not exist in it's present form. Purposes have a whole purpose and individual purpose. Not determind by themselves, because they don't know why, but because of God. Who exists for the whole purpose and the individual purpose. So knows exactly how people and things should exist.

[If it is, how do you know its your God that did it or at least your interpretation of God. May be it was a whole army of Gods.]

Easy!

First page of The Bible: Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.

There is absolutely no proof that the Bible is wrong.

We have the universe - you reject that as proof
We have the Bible – you reject that as proof
We’ve had Jesus Christ – you reject Him as God
We have witnesses of many miracles - you reject that as proof
We have the church - you reject that as proof
You have the witnesses of millions of Christians - you reject that as proof

Categorically – you do not want to believe!

One of the most abused passages in scripture is 'Judge not lest ye be judged'. I have seen it posted here on numerous occasions over the past few days, usually by those who are shaken by Gospel.

A few things need to be said about this passage.
First, the unsaved people who use it take it totally out of context. This passage refers to HYPOCRITICAL judgment, and has nothing to do with the scriptural duty of every Christian to discern whether a particular person is speaking truth or uttering the lies of the devil. This passage is a prohibition of hypocracy.

Elsewhere in scripture, Jesus Christ commanded his people that they need to "Judge righteous judgment" (John 7:24). He told one man that he "hast rightly judged" (Luke 7:43) and asked others, "Why even of yourselves judge ye not what is right?" (Luke 12:57). In order to do the work that God requires of us, we need to know who's in the camp and who's still in sin. How else can young Christians recognise sound teaching from that of the devil, and how else can we know who so desperately needs to repent and come to Christ? We need to be in a position where we can quickly identify sin, and cast it out from our midst.

Those who are not born again in Christ ought to avoid citing scripture altogether, for the Spirit of God has not opened their eyes to its meaning. These men will not escape the judgment of God for twisting the Truth of His Word (2 Peter 3:16), so they best leave scriptures aside for those of us who genuinely KNOW the Lord Jesus and go back to their theology textbooks and philosophical musings.

Almighty God, the father of Jesus Christ, is the supreme author and authority of and throughout the entire universe. He can travel the length and breadth of your universe whilst you can only stumble with the restrictions placed upon it by speed of light. You can only live for approx. 100 years whilst he can live for an eternity. You put your faith in evolution whilst the mechanics behind it state clearly that Almighty God is its benefactor.

When you have understood the teaching of Jesus Christ you will understand the Grand Unification of the Four Field Forces. Then you will drop to your knees and pray for foregiveness.

[Nothing but your individual blind faith here. The bible can't be its own authority - that's nonsense.]

The Bible has it's own authority, because it is God's word. The Law of this land has it's authority. You believe that the universe started by itself without any evidence that is blind faith.

It seems that you are not will to admit that most of the scientific methodology is subjected to assumptions, bias, speculations and inference just to name a few. Take carbon dating it is used to date things to about 50000 years, so something that is supposed to be 1 million years old should not have any carbon 14. Yet we find diamonds with carbon 14. What does that mean? Well it can two meanings either it is young than 50000 or carbon 14 has leeched into the diamond from the environment, which means we cannot really use carbon 14 to date anything because the data for the age could have been corrupted by carbon 14 being leeched from the environment

later in same post]

Which are just proofs or evidence that evolution does not exists. Without intelligence computers, technology and medicine would not exist. Has anyone observe computers, technology or medicine evolve by themselves without the use of intelligence?

have found very extreme reactions from people who discover that I am a Christian.
- Even more than when I tell them I follow Man U.
Some people are attracted; others show a very negative reaction. But very few are indifferent.
I hope this does not sound arrogant; but I believe I know the reason for this. In fact we are warned in the bible about how this decision can split families; the feelings are that strong. The fact remains that a Christian reflects a belief that through Christ they are saved and can enter heaven when they die. And as Jesus said there is no other way, should this be true, this leaves the non-Christian in a very vulnerable place.
The non-Christian may think they have very good reasons not to believe; but if they are wrong they are doomed.
Some people cannot face up to this possibility. They are not prepared to check things out properly; perhaps thinking that they will have to change their behaviour/life in some way. They would rather not do this; so instead show contempt to those that have had discovered who Jesus was

Message 9428 - posted by Luther_Wesley-Baxter (U13668671) , 1 Hour Ago

To begin with, the global flood waters are still on earth.

Two thirds of the world is covered in water.

There were no oceans pre-flood.

God altered the world's topography to accomodate life on earth after the flood.

Your so called evolutionary theory is just a hypothesis, there are no evidence that supports it.
Consider the bacteria, despite all the experiments in the Lab, no has seen bacteria evolve into anything other than bacteria. Some scientists even say that bacteria is the most fit organism on the planet. If that is true why would bacteria need to evolve to lesser fit organism?

Science has absolutely no idea how old fossils are but will insist on using conjecture of millions of years to date them when they have no facts with which to determine there age.
No one can determine how much time elapsed for layers of earth to be laid down so why do the scientist keep giving us their hypothetical speculations as facts?

In some cases they use the amount of earth covering them then in some cases they do not, because like some dinosaurs bones, they are on the surface, indicating that they were wiped out by the flood of Noah's day, which is logical, but not acceptable for the ungodly science person.

Only the bible told science were Nineveh was because the bible has an accurate history but science has a problem with its vision.

What is the difference between atheists and Punks?

Is atheism not just a minority social influence i.e. a deviant subgroup that rejects certain sections of the established majority? Just another group of Counter-conformists. A psychological and social phenomenon – a condition which can be studied alongside depression, schizophrenia etc.

They love to present atheism as an ‘elite state’, some sort of a superior order, only really accessible to geniuses and intellectuals – a new super breed. Their creeds are ‘reason’ and ‘science’.

The punks were a small minority group that aspired to complete individual freedom combined with a strong anti-establishment attitude. Not much difference between punks and atheists there. The punks were from the working class though.

Can atheists be described as the ‘punks’ form the class of geniuses and intellectuals?

Most atheists claim that they just don’t believe in God. That is not true. They are not just everyday secular citizens with just a lack of belief or faith. Atheism is an active negative belief. The atheist belief system is more than just intolerance. It is an active hatred of God and Christianity.

They accuse religion of intolerance but show extreme intolerance to religious beliefs and customs.

They accuse religion of dogmatism but adopt strong dogmatic principles of their own.

They accuse religion of intolerance but show no tolerance to religious beliefs and ideas.

They accuse religion of contempt for one's opponents but show no respects for God, Christians or the Bible.

Atheists are just a minority group who see themselves as superior intellectuals, with a ‘god’ they call ‘reason’ and with a psychological need to disrupt the established norm and create doubt and uncertainty in the mind of the majority. Their goal is tearing down the religious establishment. Punks against religion.

Smittins, there is no other source of information about life after death than the Bible. This is God's Word, where else would have any knowledge of life. Only one has experienced death and gained new life - Jesus and there is no other surce of information about him. Other 'truths' are incomparable.

Jesus never had any free will.
(Post 24)

God does not possess free will in the same way that humans once had it (then all lost it throught the Fall and some have regained it through the new birth). I will give you your due that God is free to do what He wills.
(Post 36)

The mention of unicorns, dragons etc. only reinforces the belief that prior to the Flood, humans and dinosaurs existed together. This is not the stuff of fairy tales...

Almighty God punished sin time after time again in days of old. We are told how he rained down his wrath upon many wicked cities and civilisations - eg, Sodom and Gomorrah, the Egyptians, the Hittites, etc. He has wiped out millions of citizens in more recent times too - the Black Death, the Great Plague as punishment for witchcraft and devil-worship in Europe. And need I remind people of the terrible fate of the jews in World War II?

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that the residents of New Orleans brought the wrath of God upon themselves.

Jesus Christ HATES sin. Why can the liberals not understand this? Is it any wonder God punished that city with a mighty wind in light of their festival celebrating that which is an abomination to God? They should be on their knees repenting, begging God for mercy, instead of trying to blame mortal men for their failings in their rescue effort.

Remember that Lot's wife was turned into a pillar of salt when she looked back upon Sodom and Gomorrah. No wonder President Bush has been reluctant to meddle in the affairs of his own City of Sin, after Almighty God has destroyed it.

The bad news is... there is much worse to come in these end days.

When I dream, I exist outside my body. Therefore I exist without my body. Therefore I do not need my body to exist. We Christians called that which exists without the body THE SOUL.

[when challenged to prove that the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist]

God does not mention any flying spaghetti monster in His Word, the Bible. Since we know the Bible is true, we know things that are not recorded therein are untrue. Therefore the flying spaghetti monster does not exist. POINT PROVEN, ATHEIST.

I disagree with Colin Powell and Barack Obama on several points in General Powell's endorsement. If Obama is qualified to be president, then Sarah Palin is also qualified to be PRESIDENT. John McCain chose a strong lover of God to fight abortion and same gender unions. They both acknowledge prayer, a powerful weapon in all problems.

The war on terror is radical religionists against ungodly principles. The Islamists are fighting against abortion and same gender unions coming into their nations as well as other indecencies. The generals fighting since 2001 have missed the point because they do not understand or respect the word of God that declares that God fights against those who fight against His ways. The best strategy to fight the war on terror is to choose people who love God's ways. The primary message of the Qur'an is to follow the whole Bible. People who love the Bible will have something to talk about when then meet face to face. I do not know what Barack Obama would talk about; certainly it wouldn't be his party's platform of abortion rights.

<Anyone have an idea what her point is?>

He [GOD] intervenes on a daily basis to prevent earthquakes and floods. He heals the sick, and comforts the lonely. He motivates the suicidal and gives them a reason to rejoice. All these things are ungoing.

"ok, so can you provide some examples (3 will do) of Him "smiting" a person or persons in the last 2000 years...?"

I could do, but the post would probably be removed as it would be deemed by the politically correct liberal brigade as 'insensitive' or 'libellous'. You can be sure that there are many such people, however, who are struck down dead on the spot or inflicted with a horrible illness for mocking the Lord or testing his patience. I will perhaps put a list on my blog soon, http://garvanellison.blogspot.com/

[in reply to "I am of the opinion that exorcism should be illegal if practised on children and the vulnerable as this sort of silly hocus pocus can be frightening at best, and dangerous at worst. Some people have even died as a result of an exorcism!"]

As one who has been delivered from multiple demon possession in the past, I have to tell you your comment is made from a position of ignorance.

True Christians know that demons are real, and that they can creep in and possess any man, woman or child. I know there are some African witchdoctors who engage in all sorts of disgraceful tirituals to drive out demons, but this is not the way Godly people do things.

Demon possession is like a disease. All you need is a Godly pastor who lays on his hands and shoos the demon away. If you have faith, you will be cured. You will also hear the demon scream and yelp as it is driven out of you, back to hell.

Personally I don't care how close the KJV of 1611 is to the actual Greek. The point is that those Godly men who compiled it were inspired by the Holy Spirit to do so in the way that they did. Indeed, Scripture itself prophecies that, in the years to come, a king will translate scripture perfectly (Ecclesiastes 8:4).

No other version will do, and I have a friend in the US who burns NIVs (many Christians believe the NIV is demon-inspired).

Planetary orbits are the idea that planets go round the sun.

Yet this phenomenum has never been observed. Psalm 93 and Joshua 10 make clear that this is not the case, but any scientist who subscribes to the Biblical view is deemed to be some sort of nutcase.

Scientists will not be happy until they have silenced every born-again Christian on this earth. Ultimately, (and as this nonsense in Geneva is showing), their sense of self-importance will be their own undoing. Playing God is a dangerous game.

"So how did the penguins make their way to the Middle East?"

Why do you assume all the animals had to come to the one place to get into the ark? This is a mistake atheists often make, but the Bible says no such thing. It is much more likely that Noah and his sons sailed around collecting animals from all the different continents before the flood waters rose.

A question to those who believe that the earth has been orbiting the sun for the past 4 billion years:

Why has the massive increase in the planet's population over this period of time not slowed down and altered the pattern of its orbit?

There are 6.6 billion people in the world, each weighing an average of 12 stones. Thus the total weight of mankind is somewhere in the region of 495 million tonnes. Now, that sort of weight added to that of the planet would have a massive impact on its orbit.

So why hasn't this happened?

"Scientists have never said anything else!
Has it never occurred to you that if you read a few books about evolutionary biology you would not make such a stunning display of utter ignorance?
But then you fear education because it threatens your faith."

[in response to the above quote by a vertbrate paleaontologist after drf333 claimed that "evolutionists" say that pterodactyls were dinosaurs]

That was what they taught in my days at school. Then that is true about those who believe in evolution, change the story every other decade. The articles I read on evolution and some of the articles that you and others have provide has strengthen my faith. You do realise that you need faith to believe in evolution?

Contrary to what people may believe about me, I have not gone mad and accepted the nonsense of tubeworms being related to me. For a start they don't even look like me or think like me. In fact, how many relatives that you know of are prepared to kill and eat?

"Show me evidence that disproves the scientific view."

The Bible.

There are no unbelievers on the other side of death. The minute you die, you will know that the Lord Jesus is real and that HELL is real.

There is nothing immoral per se about slavery; if it were wrong the Lord would have stated as such. If masters treat their slaves with respect, there need not be an issue here.

At 2:32pm on 16 Sep 2008, Xie Ming wrote:
Although you may wish to declare 9/11 over-

Do not be too intimidated to address the question of the three MOSSAD teams who were following the bombers in the USA

and did not give useful warning to the US authorities

and their "Urban Moving Systems " team who set up to photograph the falling towers

and danced and gave themselves "high-fives" when the buildings collapsed

and then told the police

"the Palestinians did it".

Do you need links or ar you just afraid to address the issue?

It is good a good scientific explanation to say that God did it. God is the one who observe Himself doing it. God made all of the birds on the fifth day of creation. You never heard of observeable evidence?

People should avoid these extreme sports (parachuting, bungee jumping etc). If God had intended us to fly he would have given us wings.

The Church of England is totally out of step with the vast majority of Christians on this point. We Christians believe God created the world in 6 days, around 6,000 years ago. The Church of England should not be apologising for preaching what God has stated in His Word.

It is a well known fact that Darwin dabbled in witchcraft when touring the Galapagos islands.

There is no such things as a 'species' of human. There is only ONE form of human being, that was CREATED BY GOD, IN THE IMAGINE OF GOD.

Apes are NOT human beings, and human beings are NOT apes, no matter what the scientific establishment may say.

They weren't around to observe creation, ergo their THEORIES are not SCIENCE.

The use of the word evolution is given to the natural world when there is a rejection of the creator. Darwin made the word evolution popular when he doubted then rejected God, even though Darwin still had not given a reason why the universe exists.

Once again on channel four, some propaganda expert gives unsuspecting children the full Monty on the wonders of evolution, as though it were a proven fact.

...

Who has he convinced another generation of youngsters, that do not know better, who will now have to be shown the wonders of creation before they stop evolving into mindless zombies just as their ancestors have?

Our spiritual nature is an electrical being, the result of us upbuilding our electrical nature via righteous laws. Jesus showed us that we can be reborn if our righteous strength is righteously charged but if it is not we become ramblers in the Earths magnetic field. This is the curtain that was rent when Jesus died, giving up its dead and it is the same curtain that will release our friends and our forefathers for the judgement.

Within the magnetic field surrounding the Earth are many evil spirits and this is why God tells us to avoid all involvement with it...it is best left to him. It is also the place that, from time to time, replays horrible events, electrically carved into it from the past.

Talking about there being no archeological evidence for the exodus...

[Sir Bernard Quatermass:If it really happened, then god has hidden all evidence that it did.

The reason why god would do that is....?]

wolfinnotts: "same reason he put dinosaur fossils there I guess"

U11261019: "wolfinotts,

Dinosaur fossils are evidence of the flood."

[R.U.Mashin: The flood occured more than 65million years ago? - wow - thats a first.]

U11261019: "R.U.Mashin,

The flood occurred approximately 4,350 years ago."

The blatant blasphemy by non-believers on this board is clear evidence that satan exists. Their attitude towards God and His Church is nothing but evil – and then they claim to be good people.