The earth is the center of the universe. We cannot see that now, because we are in a temporal state where it is not apparent to the eye. I would certainly think that when God moves here, and the new earth appears, it will be crystal clear. I also wonder if it was in the past. Did the universe revolve around us?! I am inclined to think it may have, as it may again.
[What I'm trying to say is that to be a homosexual, you do not have to have sex.]
WRONG! YOU HAVE TO HAVE SEX (ORAL OR PENETRATION) WITH A MEMBER OF YOUR SEX BEFORE YOU CAN BE CALLED A HOMOSEXUAL!
"An Attraction" means absolutely nothing, so long as you don't give in to that temptation!
DO YOU UNDERSTAND???
I pray that you do!
I read somewhere that they have discovered a gene for people who are better dancers than others. Now the clan bear concept of evoluton is that the cave man beats the cave women over the head with his club and drags her off to force her to have babies. I think that genetics falsify that.
Judges 21:21
and watch; and just when the daughters of Shiloh come out to perform their dances, then come out from the vineyards, and every man catch a wife for himself from the daughters of Shiloh; then go to the land of Benjamin.
This story in the Bible talks about men who picked their wife by watching them dance. This story along with the DNA evidence where it looks like people who can dance have a selective advantage.
Matthew 21:21
So Jesus answered and said to them, "Assuredly, I say to you, if you have faith and do not doubt, you will not only do what was done to the fig tree, but also if you say to this mountain, 'Be removed and be cast into the sea,' it will be done.
I always wondered about moving a mountain into the sea. I am sure that 2,000 years ago they really wondered about this. Yet now Science has shown that the Bible is true. In Hong Kong they needed to build a new airport. But they had no place to build. So they took a mountain and threw it into the sea and created enough level man made island to build an airport.
The Hong Kong airport is now the biggest building in the world. When we were there they had just opened it up, so there was still a lot of construction left to do. But it is amazing what they are able to build in China. It took them about 18 months to level the mountain.
Someone somewhere had enough faith to move the mountain and cast it into the sea. Science has shown the Bible to be true. It was science in fact that moved the mountain. So in this case science was a instramental part in showing the Bible to be true.
Because the scientists interpret the evidence under a confirmation bias. If they found a dino fossil next to a human fossil, they would just sweep it under the rug. I'm sure they've found human and dinosaur bones in the same layers, it just doesn;t make it to published articles.
[One post later...]
There are no actual layers, the geological timescale is pure fabrication. Sure, there may be pockets where certain animals are more prevelant, that's just due to the regions where those creatures lived before the great flood.
Pasteur shows us that if you have a theory you have to run experments and test your theory. Even Indiana Jones after his summer adventure had to go back to the lab and his teaching job. Darwin never did any work in the lab. A scientiest balances his field work with research and experments in the lab to back up his results from out in the field. Darwin never did any of this. He just wrote books and that makes him a philosopher not a scientist. There is nothing wrong with philosophy, but it is not science, because there is no evidence or proof for it.
["Darwin was now an eminent geologist in the scientific élite of clerical naturalists, settled with a private income, while privately working on his theory. He had a vast amount of work to do, writing up all his findings and supervising the preparation of the multivolume Zoology, which would describe his collections. He embarked on extensive experiments with plants and consultations with animal husbanders, including pigeon and pig breeders, trying to find soundly based answers to all the arguments he anticipated when he presented his theory in public."]
"Animal husbanders" is a Creation Science term based on Adam being the first "husband".
So are you deconverting to becoming a Creationist now that you are using our langage?
[A Creationist's take on] The Evolutionists' Prayer
Take me, Oh father, father of death...my beloved Natural Selection....mold and shape me by thine heavenly accidental powers...Caress me with your randomness. Father, take me to an unexplored world teeming with randomly-mutating lifeforms. Place me at the edge of thine virgin swamp that teems with smelly dead bones and rotting carcasses. Allow me to cascade naked through your wildnerness in search of more distant rotting swamps, that may reveal your true randomness.
Let me saunter with no purpose to the edge of a random tree-lined village of bug-picking, knuckle-dragging primates who are unaware of their awarenss, who are unmindful of their minds, who are unconcious of their conscousness. Let me witness their glorious orgies among different primate species where thine naturalistic love-juice is implanted in a variety of different homind species.
father, protect me from any unwelcome intelligence. Let my purpose be in your imaginary hands. Let me live by thine foundation of almighty accidental authority. Allow me to be controlled and dominated over forces that have no absolutely control. And please blind me, father, that thine accidental foundation of chance will somehow give me a randomly-mutated foundation of logic.
Finally father Natural Selection, I just pray that you will give me thine heavenly reward for a life of blind faith. It's not so easy to rationalize that the human mind could emerge from cattails in the swamp, but through your lack of wisdom, I am able to see it all happen in my mind. father, allow my very being to be nothing more than rotting corpse for all of eternity to witness. May you give me the ultimate reward of having bugs crawl happily through my eyesockets until all my flesh is completely stripped. May I lay in my box undisturbed by any metaphysical promise of future life.
Thank you father for allowing me to live randomly. Thank you for selecting me. Thank you for allowing me to be one of your fittest. In your randomness, Amen
Nonsense, antibiotics were around a long time before Darwin. For example Arab horse boys used "penicillin" to treat saddle sores on horses for a long time. If anything give them credit for antibotics, not Darwin. Evolution had nothing to do with it at all.
I am glad everyone is so jocular as this most unholy alliance between the homosexuals and the corporations is formed....powerful corporations like Ford are working to undermine Christian values and promote outright degeneracy, yet the word "lobby" is more fun to play with for the children...
I got a few Christians who believe that God created the world through evolution.
1) Where did sin come from?
2) When did Satan fall from Heaven?
3) God created the plants on the third day and the sun on the fourth day. Awful hard on those plants to wait for the sun for billions of years.
4) Evolution teaches us that we are animals. Why is it that High-School Biology teachers teach us that we are animals and then wonder why we act like it?
5) Do you truly believe that death was in the original plan of God?
6) When God looked at His Creation on the sixth DAY and said it was good, was Satan controlling the earth and was Adam standing on a bunch of dead things?
7) On the sixth DAY, God gave Adam dominion over the earth. Was Satan ruling then? If so you have a real problem there over who controlled the earth.
Think about THAT with an open mind.
"Tolerance" is an anti-Western and indeed anti-human concept...its a lie.
I have a plan for terrorist protection and prevention. From now on if a terrorist kills himself by suicide bombing, or is otherwise killed in an attempt to hurt others we embalm their bodies in pig lard and wrapped in bacon.
Also, I was thinkinging, we could have airplane security guards carry squirtguns filled with pigs blood. Of course, it would have to have anti-coagulants in it, but it would rock because if some terrorist went crazy we could squirt them with pigs blood, and they couldn't blow themselves up because they'd be unclean, and would have to go to a mosque and pray or something. Of course, then we'd catch them.
Also, if a terrorist is caught alive, we make them eat nothing but pork chops and work on a pig farm and play Porky the Pig cartoons in their cells all day. Their clothes and upholstery would be made of pigskin leather, and we'd give them pork rind potato chips. Every meal would include bacon bits. The carpeting in their cells would be boar's fur rugs, and their beds would have Miss Piggy sheets, pillowcovers, and bed spreads.
Verily, I am a genius.
When I hear stories about how these teenage girls are throwing their virginity away and doing the most disgusting things to boys AND men not just the actual sex, it literally makes me sick to my stomache. I really have this hatred towards girls that are doing this.
[Every generation has thought the following generation is the worst ever. I'm not worried.]
How much worse shall it be before the end is near?
I agree that we should not be "worried," because we are in God's hands, but I do think we should be ready for the end. I, for one, believe the end is very, very near! Soon we shall face the 3rd World War. "Peace" will be established following years of global warfare, but it won't be true, lasting peace. This "peace" will be of the Devil and his Antichrist. The peace will last only a short time; it will be followed by the world-wide extermination of Christians and anyone else who refuses to become a mindless drone controlled by Satan.
Two thousand years ago, God sent His Son.
Soon, Lucifer will be sending his...
Then that should settle it, because by definition nothing a infidel says is true. If he claims to be an infidel then he is claiming that he does not know truth.
So if I were to agree God made you a Marxist, would you agree God made me a Nationalist? (Come on...let's see your double-talk!) Well, I know God made me a Right-winger -- He delivered me from the scourge of liberalism -- but I somehow doubt God made you a Marxist, because Marxism is inherently anti-Christian. Marxism is responsible for 100,000,000 deaths, including millions of Christians, in the 20th century alone. It is an unnatural, evil philosophy which seeks to destroy Christianity and everything else which binds western Nations together.
About the only place you can find any acceptance for evolutionary theory is in the ivory towers of the universitys. You do not find it out in the real world, because it does not work in the real world.
Darwin worked as a map maker for the first five years after he finished his school. But after that, he sat down and did nothing for the rest of his life. It could be that he got sick during that 5 years. But after that, evolution was a hobby for him. Something that he thought about to use up all the time he had.
It is not something that he used or developed in a real world situation. Or anything that anyone has used or developed in a real world situation. No one has ever found a way to develop it in a practical way. Real science has rejected it from the beginning. Not the ivory tower science, but the movers and the shakers. The people who are out there in the real world getting the job done.
Laughter defies evolution... something is funny no matter whether you have evolved or not (I have verified this with thousands of jokes that I don't have to think of myself as evolved to enjoy).
Children of the Devil, NEW WORLD ORDER
It is my firm belief, based on observation combined with Biblical research, that western civilization is raising a generation of children which, once they are grown, shall be fully subservient to Satan. Just as the Devil convinced Eve that she could become a god, so is the secular world teaching their children that they are gods, and that there is virtue in sinning. Pride, Greed, Envy, Anger, Lust, Gluttony and Laziness have become 'norms' in our Society. Not only are these attitudes tolerated, they are encourged by parents, teachers, "churches," and the State.
Who is responsible for this, you ask?
Marxism, radical feminism, and the sodomite agenda -- three forces which are working in common cause towards the persecution of Christians, the coming of the false christ, and, ultimately, the enslavement of mankind to the will of the Devil. What better way to enslave mankind to the Devil than to ensure they are living in a state of absolute moral corruption?
Anyone who refuses to become a mindless drone will be destroyed.
SO, ARE WE READY TO DIE FOR OUR FAITH?
Evolution is a religion because it's based on two concepts that require blind FAITH. The first is random mutations. The second is natural selection. Neither one of these things can be seen, tested or proven.....
Well actually NS could be proven by controlled experiments, however scientists appear to be too chicken to try such a thing. (just like they're too chicken to experiment by moving animals to different locations in the world to see what would happen to their phenotypes.) In fact, as far as I know, not ONE such experiment on natural selection has been tried. Of course I could be wrong about this, but if I am, I'd love to the see the link.
The fact is, your theory is based on sheer speculation and a desire to not be created. What you believe in is not science, it's Sesame Street-style make-believe. It's a fairytale for grownups who seek to deny the obvious. There is not one shred of hard evidence or truth to it. S
Evolving is a sin. God made you with love and created you to be completely unique - different in a way that no one else is. To attempt to change that is to go against God's desire for you to be the best that you can be for His sake. Only someone who hates God, desires His creation to be changed so that there is no longer any reference to Him or His intentions.
To give you an idea how unimportant evoltion is, look at the facts. The US ranks at the bottom right above Turkey, but the US also boasts the highest number of Nobel Prize winners year after year. Also, our pharmacutical companies still have the lead in medical innovation. Our Universities are the envy of the world, even average ones, like UCSD. Nothing can quite match MIT or Caltech (or Stanford, or Harvard, or...)
So you see, the United States claims leadershp when it comes to scence, innovation and invention, yet evolution in this country ranks near the bottom. This tells us not only that evolution sn't mportant, but that the US is among the most spiritually healthy nations n the world, as well.
Why do you think Americans have such high self-esteems? It's gotta be Jesus. It just has gotta be!
Queensland's Family First Senate candidate John Lewis today said Liberal candidate for Brisbane Ingrid Tall was not getting his party's preferences because she was a lesbian.
Mr Lewis said Ms Tall would not get his preferences because she did not fit the profile of a basic unit of family - which involved a man and a woman.
He made the comments during a heated exchange with Greens Senate candidate Drew Hutton on Brisbane radio 4BC, which he later clarified.
"People have a right of choice of lifestyle, however we are not going to support these people because we don't agree with that lifestyle," Mr Lewis said after the interview.
"We don't think that's unfair."
Mr Lewis' comments come after Family First disciplined one of its workers at Dayboro, in the marginal Brisbane seat of Dickson, for answering "yes" to a question about whether Family First supported lesbians being burned to death.
[From the guy who "knows more about science than you can ever hope to know," replying to 'mitochondria are a membrane based ion pump coupling ATP synthesis with the krebs cycle'.]
That is about as clear as mud. Can you explain this at a high school level or is this beyond what a high school student is able to understand?
Creation is winning by Evolutions rules
As technical as you want to be, Creation science is out-doing - out-surviving, out-evolving, out-creating - Evolution science. Just look at the evidence!
Creation - existed from the dawn of time
Evolution - existed later than the dawn of time
Creation - followers prepared to die for the belief
Evolution - followers not prepared to die for belief
Creation - messaging spreading to all parts of the world
Evolution - message spreading to some parts of the world
Creation - specific changes in creation predicted
Evolution - specific changes in creation yet to be predicted
Creation - eternal hypotheses (Heaven, Hell, Judgement Day, etc.)
Evolution - temporal hypotheses (life, death, etc.?)
Ok, so Evolution is losing, for the moment. But let's make this a fair fight!
Evolution - An author (Darwin et al.)
Creation - An eternal Saviour (the Lord Jesus Christ)
Evolution - no commitment to belief
Creation - life-long commitment to belief
Evolution - no commitment to theory (you don't change evolution)
Creation - total commitment to religion (you change at all costs)
Evolution - changing from finding to finding
Creation - constant from the first finding (God)
Evolution - number of people in Hell = all of them
Creation - number of people in Hell = less and less
Take a look! As far as standards go, the Lord has led us to victory all the way. Who knows? Perhaps evolution will lift its standards. Imagine that, Creationism showing Evolution how to have real standards!
[Title: "If you feared God, you wouldn't evolve"]
Evolving is a sin. God made you with love and created you to be completely unique - different in a way that no one else is. To attempt to change that is to go against God's desire for you to be the best that you can be for His sake. Only someone who hates God, desires His creation to be changed so that there is no longer any reference to Him or His intentions.
If you fear God, do not evolve. God provided a way for us to be saved from our sins, even the sinful desire to evolve, by sending His Son to die for us on the cross. If we accept His sacrifice, we give up trying to evolve that we reflect God the way His Son reflected God, by reflecting His Son. A reflection is something that exists regardless of changes that go on around it.
When we go without evolving and God Himself (who does not evolve) does not evolve, we have known God.
yeah.. well we can't let that "evidence" lead us away from God. Is evolution going to give you hope for something in the future or even for something you are going through now? no, therefore I would rather be following something hopeful even if I am wrong than something right and not hopeful.
[What, you missed the dozens of articles on CNN.com alone over the past few months detailing discoveries regarding evolutionary theory? Are you really that blind? It's talked about on the news all the time.]
pedophila and homosexuality are also talked about on the news all the time, but that doesnt mean they are correct. besides, as long as the media outlets are liberal, they will always conceal the truth of Him
But also When I researched the origins of science itself I discoverd Its deep roots in pagan philosophy, alchemy, and so called "mystery" religions.
And it makes me ask, when did we ever redeem something that had pagan origins in it, by incorporating those ideas within ourselves? Science fiction I believe does that, fiction by its very nature is a lie, fantasy, and the love of it, is at its conclusion the love of a lie.
It is obvious that Iran is not going to comply with the UN call to stop the nuclear weapons activities. After a rejection by Iran, America should make a full Declaration of War (including total news medai censorship) against Iran and all those that support or are associated with the Iranian philosophy (Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria, El Sadar, etc.). In order to soften up Iran, nuclear weapons should be used to eliminate all military targets, then America should take over all oil production in Iran then implement: 1)American take over of the oil and only reward the Sunni, Shiites, and Kurds when they behave properly. If they don't behave, they starve.
Even if guys are apparently "just using it as a form to release stress". I'm sorry, but God has provided many other ways to relieve stress other then pleasuring yourself sexually. And that's the thing, if you are touching your genitals, you are doing something sexual! And God has made it clear, that REAL purity is not just keeping from sex before marriage, but it is keeping away from anything that is sexually gratifying. The ONLY sexual activity that is alright in God's eyes is for a couple only in marriage. The truth about it is that we dont have the RIGHT to think about sex/watch shows of people having sex/listen to people talking about sex, anything that has to do with sex!!! We dont have that right because we are not married! The only kind of sex that is okay in God's eyes is sex in the marriage bed.
There are consequences when you break a law. Just how far do you think you can fall without getting hurt? 10, 20, 30 feet? The law of gravity may not "break" your fall, but the ground sure will and it may break you also.
Moral laws are the same as physical laws in that there are consequences. Yet science does not want the moral laws taught to our young people.
[In response to the following opening thread: Maine Man Thought He'd Face Lesser Charge for Rolling Pig's Head Into Mosque AUBURN, Maine — A Lewiston man accused of rolling a pig's head into a mosque talked to a police officer beforehand and believed he'd be guilty only of littering or improperly disposing of animal parts, according to court documents.]
I read about that when it first happened. He shouldn't be punished severely, because what he did was harmless. When the Clinton administration pays thousands of dollars for '---- Cross' then stuff like this should be treated the same, to be fair.
[AV1611VET actually proposes interviewing ants in order to prove the flood]
Has it occurred to you we're living on the evidence?
Take a plastic swimming pool and fill it 9/8 full of dirt. Now let ants move in and build a big metropolis within the pool. A whole colonized infrastructure.
Now take some lawn sprinklers and uniformly sprinkle the pool until all the ants are dead except 8 of them. (We'll assume, for the sake of this example, that they're only surface-dwelling ants.)
Let the sprinklers run for 40 hours, then shut them off.
Assuming 2/8 erosion, we're now looking at a plastic pool, filled to 7/8 capacity dirt and rocks, and 1/8 capacity water. Polished to a high degree by erosion.
Leave it out for 1 year with a slow-operating siphon hose running.
Allow those ants to start colonizing again, and then segment the whole pool into 7 sections and spread the sections over the yard.
Allow 4000 years to pass with sporadic "floods" here and there; then interview the ants for scientific evidence of a global flood.
What would the outcome of the interview yield?
I was there when Peter tried to walk on the water and began to sink. I was there when he denyed Christ and the rooster crowed three times. I was there when Peter, James and John went with Jesus up the mountain. I was there when they multiplyed the little boys lunch to feed all the people.
You should be grateful to Christianity that we were able to restrain science before they destroyed us all.
The only difference that matters between God and Santa Clause is...
God is...
Santa Clause is not...
[If you want to go back before the founding fathers, why not go back to the first human inhabitants ?]
No --- that's called Squatter's Rights, and SR do not override God's plans for who settles where.
Look at it this way:
What do you think of when you think of the land of Israel?
Should that land belong to the Jebusites, Amorites, Hivites, Hittites, etc.? No. God gave it to Abraham and his descendants forever.
Same for America. God created this real estate we live on, and when He sends people to live there and the squatters refuse to relinquish their land, then it becomes an issue between the squatters and God, not the squatters and the settlers.
[Odd then, that so few of the godless liberal intellectuals voted for him. In fact, that was one of his rallying cries, if I remember correctly.]
It doesn't matter what his rallying cries were, or who voted for him. Bush's actual actions and policies reflect an atheistic, or possibly Judaic, ideology. Christianity has played little to no role in Bush policies.
How could anyone support a candidate to lead an entire nation when he obviously cannot even get his own personal affairs in order? Atheists are unfit to rule and to give them any power would be dangerous to society.
Atheist-controlled nations are doomed to fail...
People who blame God for their evil deeds have lowered themselves to the level of the atheists.
Although George W. Bush is most likely an atheist himself...
[Quite possibly the worst mispelling of "atheism" ever]
Is athistiam a Religon?
No one goes to bed hungry that is trusting in God to provide for them.
[Explaining how calculations were made for the unlikelihood of Earth being able to support life]
They looked at what humans needed for life. I don't know what the big deal is about the laws of physics. Can't the laws of physics be different in another planet if there is one? I agree with many of the points the movie brought out though, like needed liquid water, the right amount of sun, things like that. If there is another planet out there, they probably have the same Holy Bible we do and everything. Really cool.
Jesus is in charge of the Strong Nuclear Force that holds protons together within the nucleus of atoms - (Colossians 1:17).
Thus, when the time comes, Jesus is simply going to relax His hold on the elements (of the Periodic Table), and the protons are going to fly apart - (2 Peter 3:10,12).
While the illuminati agents in control of the Israeli government do their part of the script bombing for the camera,
the illuminati recall Mel Gibson to the stage, to complete painting the 'Jews have blood in their hands' picture.Gibson's role explained byThe Web of Disinformation set up by the Illuminati
There is a reason why science does not play the stock market, because their speculation far to often ends up not being accurate and outright wrong. But for now, they seem to get away with trying to promote the product of their collective imagination.
By all means, show me your evidence that GAP is wrong. Show me your evidence that there was no Garden in Eden and that there was not a man and a women in the Garden by the name of Adam and Eve. While your at it can you tell me why snakes do not have legs, because it talks about that in there also.
But science Eve and Bible Eve do have something in common, they lived in the same geographic location at the same point in time. So if they were not the same person, then there is a good chance they knew each other. Because according to science there were only about 300 people there at the time.
I had a dream once where I was visited by someone who i think was an angel. it was imposible to say if it was a man or a woman. if it was a man then he was very beautiful. if it was a woman then she was very strong. i felt love flowing from this angel which is how i knew it was from god. there was no fear or hate.
i was having trouble with my faith at the time. bad things had happened and i wondered if god had left me. this angel said GOD had never abandond me. we spoke for a while. i asked about the age of the earth. this angel told me that science was wrong. but not that it meant to be wrong. science is not evil just wrong. the angel told me that GOD created like it says in the BIBLE and that the earth is 6,000 years old.
That is how I KNOW that I am right when I believe that the Earth is young.