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June Griffin #fundie dailykos.com

[Opening prayer in Tennessee Senate]

I pray for the people of Tennessee who have been so downtrodden by the wicked courts from on high that they have been subject to tyrannical judiciary. And I pray that you would save Tennessee from the edicts of Washington DC that would go against the plain wishes of the people of Tennessee, particularly pertaining to the 9th and 10th Amendment.

I pray that you would sanctify this state, that it would be holy and would be a leader among the other states. That they would see that there is a God that lives, that you love the people of Tennessee. That you gave your life that we might be saved from our sins. I pray that you would forgive the many sins of carelessness or lethargy or desperation. The compromises.

Oh lord save Tennessee for Jesus sake, and I pray that your will would be done that you would be our coverage, that we would not be forced into these edicts from Washington DC or any other quarter, but let the people know that our coverage is the same as with Moses and the children of Israel when they went through the wilderness with only the divine providence of almighty God.

So I pray that everywhere there are meetings, and there is considerations and deliberations, that you would give these men and women who have been elected, give them the backbone and the remembrance of the Tennessee Declaration of Rights, Article 1, Section 2 — we are ordered to resist arbitrary power.

Mannie #conspiracy dailykos.com

The US disgustingly trying to put its own puppet in power in a sovereign nation

Yes yet again the US thinks it knows better than the people of a foreign nation as to who should lead it

Obama lied when he said he wouldn't meet with Israeli PM Netanyahu because it was too close to the Israeli Election. That was only part of the reason.

It really is because

Apparently this president has a horse in the race. First revealed in its Hebrew edition, Ha'arez is reporting The group V15, which denies that its motto is ‘anyone but Bibi,’ is working with U.S. political strategist Jeremy Bird who worked on the Obama campaign to replace the Israeli government in March.

[...]

So it appears that Obama is trying to set up his puppet leader in Israel because he thinks he knows who should lead Israel rather than the people of Israel itself

What I will find funny is the comments that defend Obama in this, as these same people would throw a hissy if the US interfered in any other countries elections!

Then again there is a cartoon on the front page with historically antsemtic memes of "Jews control the government" (See how the cartoonist put an Israeli flag and a Bibiville sign on the capitol to suggest who owns and controls it.

Plain sickening!

Edit: I see the StormFront members of DKOS are starting to pile on the Tip Jar. Bigots still hiding in the Democratic party back from the early KKK days....why you haven't joined your republican brothers and sisters yet is beyond me.

Constance Hillard #conspiracy dailykos.com

Was Crazed Cop Killer a Police Plant Whose Goal Was to Stop Anti-Police Protests?

Maybe reading passages of the CIA Torture Report did something to my psyche. But my mind no longer processes news and information in the linear fashion it once did. Maybe that's a good thing. Or then again, maybe not. Let's take for instance the tragic killing of the two New York police officers on Saturday. I doubt whether the thought would even have occurred to me last month. But it is certainly on my mind now. Did Ismaaiyl Brinsley act alone?

He was a suicidal, emotional misfit, who had alienated friends and family. So, might he have hooked up with a different caliber of associates at some point during his 19 arrests and various jail terms? Perhaps a kindly soul had stepped into his life after he had lost touch with every other shred of reality, someone whom he could tell his troubles to, someone who understood his frustrations in life, who might have lent him money, a gun, someone who could suggest "heroic" actions that he wouldn't have thought up himself? Of course this someone had a hidden agenda. It would be to manipulate this lost soul into engaging in something so heinous that it would embarrass those politicians calling for police reform and more importantly turn the public against the "I Can't Breathe" police protests sweeping across the country. The motto of such tacticians would be that two "sacrificial" deaths in war was a small price to pay for the consolidation of police power and the subordination of civil society.

Preposterous, you say. But folks were for the longest time saying the same about accusations that Americans used torture. David Shipler, author of Rights at Risk: The Limits of Liberty in Modern America (2012), notes that most men who get "entrapped" by an agent provocateur:

“seem ambivalent, incompetent and adrift, like hapless wannabes looking for a cause that the informer or undercover agent skilfully helps them find”.

The operative term these days is "entrapment." Since 9/11 dozens of such cases have come to light. An article appeared in the The Nation entitled: "Did the NYPD Entrap Ahmed Ferhani?" But this case involved entrapping a young man on a $100 arms smuggling deal, not anything so serious as the commission of homicide.

a2nite #racist dailykos.com

Little do they know there is a big target on them & the better they & the poor do the better everything is. They are a new creation & the evil 1% know exactly how to return them to the dirt. Many got destroyed in the last financial apocalypse. I'm waiting for more to lose their jobs & become ruined to "get it". It will be too late.

Sorry, my people have been under siege for 400 years, ongoing. I just do not feel, sorry for the "moderate white person". I know a few, making their pronouncements about us. Well those friends knows better than to talk that crap in front of me.

Their shite does stink; they are not awesome; they are not better. They're just lucky to be born white.

["your comment makes me wonder how you define a 'moderate white person' anyway?

(serious question)

sounds like you're talking more about 'entitled white people who only passively support left-wing causes when it suits them'"]

Like I said, I don't care about any white people

They can get fucked as black people have gotten fucked.

Moderate, don't know it there is such a thing.

I'm glad.

victoria2dc #conspiracy dailykos.com

A person who is sick should never go to a hospital! Now that is a very bold statement, huh? I believe it only from experience and from knowing that you don't have to go to a hospital for most things except surgical procedures. Even then, I'll give homeopathy a shot at it before making any decision to go to a hospital.

If you think Obamacare is a good thing, we'll have to disagree on that. In my opinion, it gives TRILLIONS to BIG pharma that is used and not used for drugs. For example, I have a crummy Colorado healthcare insurance that I never use unless it's for diagnostic testing. They dish out that money annually to insurance companies who give it to BIG pharma for drugs that suppress disease. Tell me what happens to it when the person who has it pays her own alternative healthcare bills because there is no choice?

Where does that money go? I keep asking them to give me the money for my homeopath and my acupuncturist. Ha! Nobody has ever been able to explain what happens to the money that I pay them every month for nothing.

Bush started it. Obama made it worse unless you are a true believer in the BIG pharma one way to go medical system this country is owned by.

Cancer can and is being treated successfully by people in their homes with organic food, juicers, homeopathy, herbs and FOOD while they are still asking you for money FOR THE CURE, millions are healing themselves.

lagertha #fundie dailykos.com

For anyone who has been living under a rock the past few decades; "misandry" is a derogatory word used against women who do not pay deference to male people that society thinks they should. The word was used against Andrea Dworkin in character assassination for writing about the complexities of heterosexuality outside of the boundaries set by men - and without apologizing for it. They labeled her a man hater, a misandrist. They labeled her "sex negative" without ever bothering to read or understand the points she was trying to make (just like some of my own critics). "Misandrist" is the go-to word for antifeminists, misogynists, MRAs, or anyone else who can find no other response to a woman's opinion other than slapping a label on her in an attempt to shame her for showing the slightest bit of personal resolve to be treated like a human being and not a piece of meat.

"Misandrist" is a word very much like the B-word, the C-word, the W-word, the S-word, and other female-specific derogatory terms that are meant to remind a female person of exactly what her place in society is (under a man). "Misandrist," though, is a word that implies political legitimacy to the idea that female people are obligated to positive emotional investment in male people as a whole; and anything outside of that is the exact opposite or "hating men." This loyalty-oath approach is designed to keep women from analyzing and communicating about the power imbalance between the sexes, and how it presents itself on an institutional level.

atana #conspiracy dailykos.com

I think PTSD is an example of pathologizing normal human variation and normal responses that happen to be inconvenient or undesirable to TPTB.

PTSD looks like a perfectly sensible Darwinian adaptation conferring hypervigilance on animals who have escaped predators. And human society contains many sorts of predators. Those who have been victimized by human predators and have developed a normal, natural brain response are seen as the "disordered" and "disturbed" ones. The human predators who caused this "disturbance" are neatly off the hook: all the focus is on the "mentally ill" victims, not of human predators, but of this abstract condition called "PTSD".

It sounds to me exactly like rape culture at work: blame the victim and exculpate the rapist/predator.

Miss my village #racist dailykos.com

"Decent" White folk now days like to think this shit just up and disappeared (until it happens again), and/or any avowed racist nowdays is a "lone wacko" type(except for the websites that can generate hundreds of dollars toward anyone who puts bullets in a thug).

Open your fucking eyes and go read the comments section of any major online news site. Go play a game online where white people can tell you how the really feel. These are your people white folk, shit has NOT changed.

Recognize that your race is only decades removed from what one might call inhumane levels of pure race based torture, castration, rape and glorification of all those acts. Yet not one white person will claim their family or any other white person they personally know, was capable of this shit. No white person will name names, so it just all kinda disappeared. Fuck That Shit.

And no not every other person/race would have done the same fucking thing in the same fucking position. Own IT!!!!!!

Why should black people trust that white people just quit being violent racists?

Visceral #fundie dailykos.com

fascism based on health wouldn't be so bad

Only if they were smart and serious about it, of course - which they wouldn't be - but a rubric of "health" would pretty much demand that the entire progressive platform be enacted.

Visceral #fundie dailykos.com

neo-Victorianism could work across the aisle

And neo-Victorianism would certainly be my choice. Never mind frumpy clothing, covering up table legs, and banishing sexuality to the marriage bed or the seedy parts of town where nobody respectable would be caught dead ... strict rules for mixed-sex socialization, long, formal courtship, and constant supervision by family would remove a whole lot of the guesswork and fear on both sides. If safety is what is needed, then it would be an interesting irony that the more regulated sexuality becomes, the healthier it would be.

NewtC #racist dailykos.com

I'll tell you why it's wrong. Because there is no monolithic "white man" who picks on people of color. It's wrong to instill in children an erroneous concept. And you can't stop contemporary racism while you're making up nonsense about the past. It's like saying Americans are bad because we have rich people forcing our government to start wars. The vast majority of Americans are good hearted people, as are the vast majority of Caucasian people. We're generous and we care about the world and other people. That said, any large rich nation is going to be subverted by greedy rich people, and we've been fighting that here for two centuries.

If you're going to teach history, be honest about human behavior. The native Americans who were in North and South America when the Spanish came here had already killed other groups before them. In fact, it's now know that Caucasians lived in the Americas before descendents of native Americans came over the Bering Straight. Why isn't that taught in US History? Why the focus on big bad English whitey when it was mostly Hispanic invaders who attacked and overcame native Americans? Why not teach what really has happened throughout human history so kids can analyze and understand contemporary human problems: Stronger groups have almost always overpowered weaker and less technologically advanced groups. It's human nature. Why do you think the Irish have read hair? Because they invited the Vikings to come breed with their daughters over and over for centuries? Why is there no uproar about the fact that black people in Africa held as slaves today? Because their owners are other black people? No bad whitey to criticize? Is that the same reason that even AP History students think English Europeans are bad and Hispanic people were historically picked on, in spite of the Spanish lineage of those who committed genocide throughout the Americas?

Trying to install white guilt in today's children serves to keep the established oligarchy in power. We need our kids to think, understand and act. They can't do that while their teachers and curriculum are busy framing history in terms of big bad whitey being mean to others instead of an honest evaluation of human behavior and its effect on historical events.

NewtC #conspiracy dailykos.com

Welfare, and encouraging people to overpopulate

When I went back to the town where I graduated high school, I realized that almost every one of my co-students who were failures in high school started having babies as teenages, had many children, and their children did the same thing - failed in school, had kids as teenages, and kept having babies.

Now each one of them has 20-30 descendents, many of whom quit school (and went on welfare, got Section 8 and HEAP, etc.) or are in jail or are "disabled" and living off the public via fake social security claims.

Most of the people who were smart in high school ended up as single professionals, married late, had a kid or two later in life, or didn't have kids and now their excellent gene pool is dwindling.

It's like that crazy movie where the dumbest people outbreed the smart ones. Except I think it really did happen, or is happening now!

JayFarquharson #conspiracy dailykos.com

But the Old Colonial Powers wanted to game the UNSC to keep hundreds of millions of people enslaved,

And because of "Freedom!" We pitched in to help, the Slavers,

And since then, the UNSC has been pretty much broken.

Idiot American Mythology Geeks keep bringing up Rwanda, with out a clue,

The sad reality is, the only members of the UNSC that return the GA's calls, even when it is politically inconvenient, are Russia and China.

That "Global 9/11" is like the US 9/11,

A great way of getting your neighbours shot, tased, tortured or raped.

For the ROW, the us has become the Ferguson PD, but the row is dark skinned, and it's night, and all the cell phone footage in the world, won't bring the Cop's victim back to life.

Dee Wampler #homophobia dailykos.com

[This is a response to firefighter Captain Andi Mooneyham's application for partner benefits for her legally married wife.]

Dear Captain Mooneyham:

I agree with the decision of the board to refuse to grant and extend benefits to lesbians and homosexuals.

Missouri has a constitutional provision and a state statute providing that marriage is between one man and one woman which has been the law since time and memorial in our world's history.

I'm tired of promo attempting to cram homosexuality and lesbians down our throats.

You have followed the law and I congratulate you.

Now-back to fighting fires.

Sincerely yours,

Dee Wampler

[PROMO is a LGBT advocacy group in Missouri.]

a2nite #conspiracy dailykos.com

Washington was a monster who went to make the working poor pay a whiskey tax for the "war for evil rich space owners independence". He used a militia of gun owners, I assume.

The 2nd was to give evil rich slave owners permission to have slave catching & killing militias. Gotta keep the negros down on the plantation, doncha know.

America is a blood thirsty loves to kill country. That's why it was created to kill Infians so that evil rich people could take their land.

The "framers" are in the 9th circle of hell (i hope there is one) with rotten Ronnie, Judas, & most of the POTUSs of the USA. They are all betrayers.

G2geek #wingnut dailykos.com

Progressives! Do you give a rat's ass about equal rights? How'bout the whole rat?

Join the Just One Rat campaign!

It's nonviolent! It's fun! It's probably illegal but so are sit-ins!

Go to your local pet shop. Buy one rat, the mangey gray ones they sell for cheap, as snake-food for people who have large snakes.

Get some kind of small container with a way of having fresh air. A can for tennis balls might work, if you punch holes in the lid. A previously-used Chik-Filth-E bag might be perfect for the job because you can leave it under the table with the top almost entirely unrolled, so the rat can escape on its own.

Go into a Chik-Filth-E during dinner hour, when lots of homophobes will be taking their families out to get salmonella. Keep your secret rat container carefully concealed. Choose your seating tactically. You want to be in an area where no matter which way the rat wants to go, it has to cross an open area where people will see it. Be sure you're not sitting where any obvious cameras can see you.

When you release the rat, don't be the first to spot it. Let someone else spot it. As soon as you hear someone say "eek a rat!" or similar words, you can say "Eww I think I'm gonna' be sick" and exit. Or you can exit early, before anyone else sees the rat.

It's even more fun if you have an accomplice who came in at about the same time as you, but showed no sign of knowing you, and who sat somewhere else that had a commanding view of the entire room. Your accomplice can stay behind to take cellphone video of the rat and the other patrons' reactions, and can also serve as a witness that the rat came from somewhere other than the area where you were sitting. For example, "I think it crawled out of the trash can over there..."

All it takes is ONE rat in the middle of a crowded dinner hour, to make all kinds of merriment that will last and last.

James Hepburn #conspiracy dailykos.com

As for Neil deGr4ass Tyson, he's a fucking idiot. A failed physicist plucked out onto the corporate media arena as the spokesman for all that Wall Street wants you to believe about science.

A PR hack. Has always been. And this latest step into a genuine scientific controversy with stomping boots is the science equivalent of World Wrestling.

Hilariously, in Tyson's bio on Wikipedia, someone wrote:

He was 18th author on a paper with Brian Schmidt, a future winner of the 2011 Nobel Prize in Physics

LOL. He knew a real Nobel prize winner!!!

HERE'S THE DEAL:

Right now, Monsanto and others have altered the genes of some food plants to make them actually PRODUCE A PESTICIDE.

Yum!!!

Other modifications create organisms that are RESISTANT TO PESTICIDES.

Yum again!!!

You don't have to be a scientist to know that there are risks inherent in such radical alterations of the foods we eat.

And you have to be a complete idiot to deny that we can so dramatically alter our foods without the potential for unseen consequences.

Our bodies didn't evolve over millions of years eating these genetically modified organisms. Most of them are probably harmless, other than the fact that they taste like shit.

But for the wrongest of the wrong:

Global warming and GMOs are two completely different, completely unrelated issues.

To try and link them together the way Tyson and others have done here is pure smear technique, straight out of Propaganda 101.

It is a ridiculously transparent attempt to falsely equate legitimate and scientific concern about the risks associated with GMOs with the completely unscientific denial of climate change.

Anyone using this smear, is either a Monsanto sockpuppet, or a natural born sleazebag.

LillithMc #conspiracy dailykos.com

You have allopathic medicine Boris. No need to get hostile. I have a remedy that will help you with that. No one will drag you in to see a Naturopathic Doctor although they may be on the same staff as your Medical Doctor with very similar training. Even in the vulture capitalistic US where every dime has been soaked out of the sick who are allowed to die rather than help them with other systems they are adding these kinds of Doctors all over the country. Because it works! Homeopaths had better results back in the time of the plague. It may be because at that time allopathic Doctors bled their patients. I didn't realize most comments supporting natural healing methods would by "hide" rated on this sceptics diary. Seems scaptics are insecure about their attacks on natural medical systems and also very ignorant about them.

LillithMc #conspiracy dailykos.com

The AMA was founded to shut down homeopathy which is the largest, most affordable and effective system in the world. So sorry to see a diary here attacking homeopathy. It is to me a sign of ignorance and lack of concern for the millions who are helped in a non-toxic and affordable way.
Allopathic medicine at the time of the plague was less effective perhaps because they bled their patients to extreme. I use allopathic when it works best and homeopathic when it works best for me. If you have never studied it nor used any system but allopathic, don't be a zealot showing your ignorance especially when so many die in the US from lack of access to allopathic health care and know nothing about other effective systems.

Pluto #racist dailykos.com

Personally, I think as long as a Palestinian is left alive, Israel will be under attack.

I speak as a military strategist and anthropologist.

Israel has no choice but to murder them all, if it wants to survive.

The line of asymmetrical human obscenity within a civilization/tribe has been breeched.

atana #conspiracy dailykos.com

As for DSM politics, it's very clear that whole process is deeply corrupted with drug company money. It is not a scientific process at all. "Mental illnesses" are added or expanded in every DSM revision purely to expand drug markets.

Usually what is happening is that a pharma company has an existing product they would like to be able to sell for a new, currently unapproved, use, so they wine, dine, and pay huge "consulting fees" to psychiatrists on the DSM committees who then vote to approve the new use for the old drug.

Pharma companies are not actually making new psychopharmaceuticals, just figuring out new ways to make money with the ones they have, and bribing psychiatrists on the DSM committees to approve sales for the new diagnostic categories.

The complete corruption of this process and the loss of all claims to scientific rigor was another reason -- and an important one -- why the NIMH pointedly turned its back on the DSM.

Rai #conspiracy dailykos.com

Are you kidding me?

Just about every kid in the United States is INDOCTRINATED into the meat head culture (even I was)...If that ain't "forcing" someone to eat meat, I don't know what is.

thresholder #moonbat #sexist dailykos.com

Why would a woman say STFU?

For a simple reason. The one we men have to imagine because we've never experienced it.

BECAUSE THEIR VOICES HAVE BEEN SILENCED AND PATRONIZED AND TRIVIALIZED AND SUPERSEDED FOR CENTURIES!

Men have no more idea what it feels like to be silenced than white people know what Jim Crow felt like.

And in THIS PARTICULAR CASE ...

Men have nothing legitimate to say. Women suffer in the millions from male sexual aggression and from being silenced about it afterwards.

And men, even apparently the "well meaning" progressives here, refuse to acknowledge the legitimacy of their suffering.

As a man, I feel deeply, deeply ashamed of what "we" do to satisfy our aggression urges.

Now, the specific question of this original diary was whether this is good tactics.

Well, what does history tell us? How many examples are there of oppressed people being delivered thru patient, silent acceptance until their oppressors decided to alleviate their suffering? Can you name one?

Protest is about raising your voice in holy, righteous anger. That's what this whole damn web site is about. No one is going to take suffering seriously until sufferers raise their voices and refuse to be silenced. If you don't get that basic dynamic, better step away from political activism.

Throw The Bums Out #conspiracy dailykos.com

Actually, death camps like Auschwitz might now be legal thanks to a synergistic effect between the NDAA/MCA and the recent assassination ruling. Think about it, if the president can authorize the assassination of American citizens who are terror suspects anywhere (including in the US) on his word alone and the president can round up and indefinitely detain American citizens who are terror suspects on his word alone then why can't the president round up, detain, and then execute (i.e. exterminate) American citizens who are terror suspects anywhere in the world (including the US)? Oh, and before you say "that ruling only applies to people on foreign soil where they can't easily be arrested" there is NO SUCH LIMITATION in the court ruling at all. That means the only real objection could be that Obama would not use (or even recognize) that such a thing is legally possible but that doesn't matter as Obama will not be president after Jan 20, 2017.

atana #conspiracy dailykos.com

Educators as gender cops.

There is nothing new in that. The whole point of American education is to produce patriarchal robots: cannon fodder boys and cannon-fodder-maker girls. Compulsory heterosexuality and compulsory heteronormativity are part of the program.

Timaeus #fundie dailykos.com

[Elliot Rodger]

That's horrible to witness.

I'm a religious Catholic. This may be a case of demonic possession, which is terrifying, and fortunately very rare.

If you think that's nonsense, read the definitive book Hostage to the Devil by the very brilliant Roman Catholic priest Malachi Martin:

http://www.amazon.com/...

No matter how skeptical you may be, if you actually read that serious book, you might be more open in your thinking. And that might be important for you and your family.

gjohnsit #conspiracy dailykos.com

Yes, I am very serious

If Stalin was as bad as Hitler then where were the gas chambers and concentration camps?

Why does simply asking that question get outraged responses, rather than facts?

You know there are many different levels of evil out there. Stalin can be a mass murderer without being anywhere near as bad as Hitler.

Claudius Bombarnac #fundie dailykos.com

I would say it is Obama that was irresponsible and selfish by inserting CIA agents into the vaccination program in order to enhance his image by killing Bin Laden. It is a war crime to do this with the Red Cross. I also consider this be a war crime.

Bin Laden was no threat to the US by the time he was killed. He had been effectively neutered. Killing him was just an act of revenge and grandstanding.

JesseCW #conspiracy dailykos.com

Most of the people now screaming "Putin lover" at those of us not eager to see WWIII start as a result of the us picking between brutal and opressive Ukrainian Oligarchs and Russian Oligarchs were also screaming "Assad lover" at those of us arguing the US should not arm Al Queda in Syria for about a year before they admitted the truth.

Many of them are still proud of having cheered as the US provided air support for ethnic cleansing in Libya and will claim that you "loved Gaddafi" if you point out what they actually supported.

BigAlinWashSt #conspiracy dailykos.com

The 9/11 Commission was an obvious coverup from the beginning, just like a torture "commission" would be a coverup. We may not know exactly what they are covering up, but that is the case. Just as we learned the real truth behind Pearl Harbor, we will learn the real truth about 9/11.

["We learned the real truth about Pearl Harbor? What is it? I am being serious, I don't remember this."]

That we knew about the attack before it happened and purposefully allowed it to so we could officially get into the war. Its well documented now.

Pluto #conspiracy dailykos.com

The Ukraine is a pawn in a war that should be familiar to everyone -- it happens over and over and over again.

1. Pay outsiders to foment an uprising and topple the current leader (this one newly elected). Usually this is done by the IMF and World Bank, as was the case throughout South America and -- and currently the case throughout Africa (although USians have not been told yet we have boots on the ground in two dozen African nations doing this at this time).

2. Loan them money for development. If possible, force the country to put up their natural resources as collateral.

3. Make the payments so onerous, that severe austerity is forced upon the people.

4. Austerity suppresses consumerism, so while trade may take place, the domestic economy suffers.

5. When they are about to default, either seize their natural resources or make them more loans and turn them into a plantation-nation.

BigAlinWashSt #conspiracy dailykos.com

I don't believe for a minute that Obama and Kerry got suckered. They tried to lie their way into war. It was set up over a year earlier with Obama's red line. They knew what they were doing with that and had to use it. It didn't work, they knew they'd get caught. So they played the Congressional/U.N. approval game to bail out. So now it's falling on Edrogan and Turkey.

Blacksheep1 #conspiracy dailykos.com

Because "the damn South" already did "secede."
The FUCKING NORTH is still gloating over how hard they kicked our asses -- slavers over the prospect of wiping us the rest of the way out whenever the subject arises -- to the point of dragging it up out of the fevered swamp of Yankee imagination whether it's called for or not -- because we were such subhuman mongrel slaveholding antebellum rotten bastards.

Even though we were, as a group, not.
Yes. Plantations existed.
Yes. Slave states existed.
Yes. Slavery --and remember that it applied to whites and was practiced by American Indian tribes on blacks, whites, and one another, as well as by whites, and that there were black slaveowners as well -- and contrary to Northern mythology not every single one of those owners bought somebody's freedom to give it back to them -- was and is a horror beyond description, and a major cause of the War Between the States -- there is NOTHING "Civil" about any war any where any time -- it was NOT the sole and only cause, and not every soldier in butternut gray was a slaveholder.

Economics was a factor in that war.
Politics was a factor in that war.
Fear was a factor in that war.
Prejudice was a factor in that war.
MONEY was the biggest single factor in that war, though.
It's been sugar-coated as anti-slavery in revisionist history.

Washington and Jefferson were slave owners.

That's not me defending a horror: that's a historical fact.

The Constitution was written to only count 3/5 of every slave as a human being for purposes of representation -- to suit the NORTH, who were afraid of real honest representation drowning them out, just as today's GOP is afraid of real honest voting beating them back under their rocks.

Other things were at work then just as they are now. Firebrand political hucksters demanding their way or destruction of everything first-and-foremost among those factors; just as Rupert Murdoch wants to destroy the USA today because he finds us reprehensibly not like him, and the Gee O Pee are eating out of his and the banksters' hands for the MONEY. Got nothing to do with freedom or rights or justice.

Forgetting that Sherman burned his way to the sea, and some people even right here have claimed he didn't do enough damage, remember this: as long as you give hatred you should expect it right back in your face.

IhateBush #fundie dailykos.com

I was a strong supporter of gay marriage until the last few weeks.

Then it hit me that there are many many more problems that threaten society than pushing this issue. The economy, Health care, energy, climate change, labor issues are far far more important than whether gays marry or not. This is certainly not the time to push gay marriage.

So I see those pushing this issue as real selfish and putting themselves over the good of the country. So I'm really reconsidering whether I want to reward this kind of extreme selfish individualistic thinking. I am a strong authoritarian as well.

To be quite frank, if I had lived during WWII and if people put the issue of civil rights over the good of the country, I probably would have had very negative views toward that movement.

Salo #fundie dailykos.com

If I belonged to the only civilized segment ... ... Of a society and I also had to worry about other minority groups like the Druze and Christians there, I'd have gassed the Sunnis. It's widely known that the rebels are drawn from all over the world in various parts of the Umma and are funded by the US and Saudi and Turkey, it's a foreign invasion. The Alawites and Christians face extermination if they become subject to Sunni rule and that's an existential threat. if the Israelis were under similar pressure I'd expect them to tactically nuke their opponents.

BigAlinWashSt #conspiracy dailykos.com

Well one thing that gets me about the oil "reason" is it doesn't account for the overall agenda of the Zionists, like Netanyahu, who want to transform the ME to Clean Break and Yinon Plan model. Look at what they're saying now and look at what is in NDAA 2014 (a diary up now). Israel's security. All over it. Israel's security. Many say Iraq was a war for Israel. The neocons certainly viewed it that way. No doubt there are competing factions and different interests at play.

lysias #conspiracy dailykos.com

It was during the lead-up to the Kosovo War that I became aware of how mendacious NATO is. Lies about genocide already occurring in Kosovo before the war started. Complete silence about the outrageous nature of the Rambouillet agreement that NATO attempted to impose on Yugoslavia (the rejection of which was NATO's excuse for going to war with Yugoslavia).

And the lies continued. I had a part-time job transcribing CNN then. Whenever they referred to our bombing of the Chinese embassy in Belgrade, they called it the "accidental bombing". There must have been a memo from management instructing on-air talent always to use that phrase.

BigAlinWashSt #conspiracy dailykos.com

Check what Kennedy and Martin Luther King Jr. and Ike and others said in the early 60's, particularly 63. They don't talk like that anymore and there's a reason. Check what Ike said about the CIA, and Kennedy. JFK got murdered and that's when the country took a real turn. That's when the coup was completed that took decades to complete. Since then the Presidency has been a more of a puppet than a figurehead, guided along the path the shadow government wants to go. That's exactly why the policies and actions of Obama are deemed by many as Bush III. The agenda is set from the outside and executed within. The President is like a CEO responsible for a company but reporting and taking care of the interests of the stockholders.

ConcernedCitizenYouBet #conspiracy dailykos.com

It is well-documented fact that FDR was not pleased that Americans were actively resisting entering the war in Europe. It is also a well-documented fact that he provoked the Japanese. By cutting off their supply of oil, iron ore, and steel as well as moving the Pacific Fleet from the West Coast fleet to Hawaii, FDR was taunting the Japanese to strike first.

FDR knew that the Japanese were planning to attack Pearl Harbor. FDR ran one of the most secretive presidencies in our history. FDR was responsible for building up the agencies that would eventually become the CIA and the NSA.

BigAlinWashSt #conspiracy dailykos.com

Money talks, bullshit walks. Morsi was their guy until he stopped taking orders, so the imperialists and Zionists have started their dismantling of the country. It's the same they've done to Libya and Syria. Don't believe the MSM.

BigAlinWashSt #conspiracy dailykos.com

Obama just appointed death squad expert Robert Ford, the same killer he appointed to be Syrian ambassador just before the shit hit the fan there, as ambassador to Cairo, Aug. 7th. This is an orchestrated, instigated "civil war", similar to how they orchestrated the happenings in Syria and Libya. It's all part of a long term agenda detailed in the document Clean Break, 1996, and the PNAC documents circa 2000.

ConcernedCitizenYouBet #conspiracy dailykos.com

Yes, we should have stayed out of both wars

FDR was hell-bent on dragging America into the conflict in Europe. Most Americans were against entering WWII. Provoking a fight with the Japanese was his best chance to so. FDR knew that the Japanese were planning to strike Pearl Harbor because he had been given decrypted diplomatic and naval message traffic in advance of the attack (William H. Friedman broke the Japanese "Purple" diplomatic cipher and Agnes Meyer Driscoll broke "Code Book D" of the Kaigun Ango system in 1940). FDR sat on the information in order to rally American support for entering the war. FDR allowed thousands of American sailors to die to promote his political agenda. The fact puts him on the level of Dubya in my eyes. For all the good that he did, FDR was a warmonger.

The founding fathers were clear about the use of military force. They did not want the U.S. to have a standing army. The only reason why they supported a standing Navy was piracy.

BigAlinWashSt #conspiracy dailykos.com

We have 9/11, that's really it. All this stuff is about 9/11. The incidents since 9/11 have primarily been manufactured by the FBI. Our government and it's allies aren't illegally attacking other countries and trying to take over the world militarily because they want to keep us safe from terrorists. The false choice is believing that.

BigAlinWashSt #conspiracy dailykos.com

"Prevent dozens of terrorist events". Man, that is sick, just sick. They are lying their asses off with no pretense about it and people are not questioning that, they're questioning Snowden and Greenwald. Look at what's happening with all this. The war on terror is getting a big boost while the Asia Pivot is as well.

Claudius Bombarnac #conspiracy dailykos.com

The site IS from the NSA. They want you to know you are being watched without actually admitting it for legal reasons. It's part of Obama's Panopticon Project. If you think you are being watched, then you act as if you are being watched. It's playing 11th. dimensional chess with your head.

Dominic Pedulla #fundie dailykos.com

Employers in Oklahoma could opt not to include contraceptives and abortions in employee insurance plans under a measure that secured passage by a Senate committee Thursday.
The measure, Senate Bill 452 by Sen. Clark Jolley, R-Edmond, passed the Senate Business and Commerce Committee by a vote of 9-0 with no debate and now heads to the full Senate.

Jolley said the measure is the result of a request from a constituent, Dr. Dominic Pedulla, an Oklahoma City cardiologist who describes himself as a natural family planning medical consultant and women's health researcher.

"Women are worse off with contraception because it suppresses and disables who they are," Pedulla said.

"Part of their identity is the potential to be a mother," Pedulla said. "They are being asked to suppress and radically contradict part of their own identity, and if that wasn't bad enough, they are being asked to poison their bodies."

"Studies show that women using contraceptives consider pregnancy more unwanted than wanted," he said.

expatjourno #fundie dailykos.com

As for eating meat, you cannot be an environmentalist and eat meat. It takes 12,000 gallons of water to produce one pound of beef. Look it up.

You are not entitled to say a word about resource management if you eat meat.

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