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Adadadadak #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

you know who also shouldn't vote? not all atheists but those #**@ing %#@*rags who think they're better than everyone else because they decided to become a rebel in college and consider themselves atheist because they're to #**@ing lazy to go to church and justify the switch by blindly insulting every religion and belief system on the planet

Cheesecake #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Yes, but at what point did plant evolutionary lineages diverge from animal evolutionary lineages? Why do we have two vastly distinct groups, yet multiple sub groups within each?

So why not teach ID in schools? I think it needs to be offered as an OPTION to scientific THEORY's on how life began.

Life either began from nothing, or we are designed. Since there is very weak evidence on how life began, or how the universe formed, intelligent design needs to be implemented into science courses to offer some real alternative to why we may be here.

Guitar #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

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Enjoy. Just keep it private, keep it in the home and the churches. Get it out of my schools, get it out of my government, and get it out of my throat.

Are you aware that it is every true Christians responsibility to spread the word at some point in their walk with Christ?

Fruscainte #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

That's not exactly how Noah's Ark happened. It happened like this: The entire world was disobeying God, they were having homosexual relationships, %@*#s, pre-marital sex, all that jazz. Oh, and since when does Religion =/= Logic exactly?

Christianity is actually a very logical religion. Stop looking at it half empty.

Targeros #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

The Bible does not endorse any of those things. Find me the verse where it says, kill all non-believers, own lots of slaves, and on and on. Your perversion of the message of the Bible is a push to get people to fall away from the Bible, it isn't a real account of what the Bible says.

Also, you have proof that there was never a Garden of Eden, world-wide flood, or exodus?

Also, the Bible claims that the world is spherical in nature, not flat. Believers of Christianity in old ages =/= the word of the Bible. They were wrong, in that instance.

How am I basking in ignorance by believing in God? Wouldn't it be ignorant to say that I am absolutely positively wrong beyond a doubt? Maybe I'm not understanding what it means to be ignorant...

shuttle #conspiracy forums.worldofwarcraft.com

I'd like to make a statement:

You better hope there's a God, whether or not you are an atheist, a deist, whatever, because the imminent COLLAPSE of our economy, merging of nations (New World Order) and Civil War within the United States itself is upon us.


If you don't know what I'm talking about, or you think it's another "conspiracy theory" post, go ahead and google it. There is no joke here.

You ever read about the Great Depression? It's coming, and it's going to be the worst in histroy. And faster than you think. It is estimated by avid and expert investors in the Wall Street Journal that the collpase of the economy should hit the U.S. and the world itself by the middle of 2009 at the VERY LATEST. The state of California goes bankrupt at the end of February. What then?

To address those you think the stimulus plan is going to fix anything, do your research. By design, it will collapse our economy. It's the government's goal. Say hello to the NAU (North American Union) and the new NAU currency, the Amero. Google it.

I would really not expect it, but appreciate it if you did some research before responding to this. Get your facts, because I'm only going to ignore troll posts.

I expect nothing but "lol conspiracy theory" at this, but really I laugh at you. I laugh at everyone who nay says at the imminent death of the United States as all of you and I know it. The dollar is worth less than it has been ever, and it's only getting worse. Our 20 TRILLION dollar debt is climbing by the billions every day, faster than you can imagine. I hope when you're trolling this post you step back for a minute and take a look at your world around you, and take it in, because the United States as you know it is coming to it's end at a ridiculous rate. Everything is in place to do so. All the treaties, everything.

Do your research, respond. I want to hear some educated responses and input.

shuttle #conspiracy forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Just a few interesting tidbits I've read on that kind of connect to the control of people and the world government:

- FEMA Camps have been actively guarded by American troops for almost 6 months now. They are actively being refurnished and many companies such as Halleburton (sp?) are spending millions refurbishing many of these camps.

-American troops have been steadily been flowing back into the US from around the world and being actively stationed around the US in large cities, etc. since October of 2008.

-The Amero currency has just gone mainstream. It is the currency that represents the NAU (North American Union), which is defined as the deterioration of borders by the USA, Canada and Mexico. China demanded about 1.2 trillion Amero's a short time ago and threatened that they would call upon the US National Debt if they didn't receive them. Needless to say they got their new currency.
- Sidenote: Is it actively flowing into the economy yet? No. But it is definitely out there now. The inks are already purchased and in place to be printed when it goes National.

-Congress recently held, for only the 6th time in history ever, a secret and completely closed door meeting to discuss in total privacy the Foreign Intelligence Managements Act (FIMA, I believe).

I'll add on more as I read into it. Just so you know, all this is documented information.

Darthdiddler #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Obama is the Antichrist

All the signs are there; does anybody else see it?

- He will be indwelt and empowered by Satan

- He will rise to power over 10 nations [from the old Roman Empire ... Europe?!]

- He will somehow be 'diverse from the rest' so we are not certain he will be European

- He will bring peace, yet conquer through treaties and war

- He will be very, very popular around the world

- He will be a great talker and speech maker

- He will likely be charismatic and physically attractive, like King Saul

- He will receive what appears to be a fatal wound to the head

- He will appear to be resurrected from the dead

- His right eye may be blinded and his arm completely withered

- He will enforce a "peace" plan or resolution [covenant] upon nation Israel

[It doesn’t say he signs this treaty, but he enforces some coming 'peace plan' or resolution]

- He may help to get the new Jewish Temple built in Jerusalem

- He will appear to perform miracles ("lying signs and wonders")

- He will require that everybody on Earth receive a mark or identification on their

forehead or hand and nobody will legally be able to buy or sell without it

- He will stand in a new Jewish Temple in Jerusalem and declare he is "God"

- Unspeakable terror and war will then engulf Earth for exactly 3½ years (1260 days)

- He will direct the slaughter of millions of Christians and Jews

- He will lead the armies of the world into Israel . . . Armageddon.

Marolim #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

THE ANTICHRIST HAS TAKEN OVER THE US!!!

Unfortunately the Antichrist is stronger than we originally perceived. You see, he is a puppet controlled by a group of private bankers who are seeking to take over and enslave the world with their one world order. These bankers have been very successful so far. They have blinded people from the truth through the media and dumbed them down through chemicals in the food and water supply so that they don't even care about the liberties that are being taken from them, as long as their own little world remains undisturbed. Very soon fear generated by this group will have the world on its knees begging for aid. What they will get is massacre.

Fireproof #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

So many idiots here with their main stream liberal media straw fed to them while they browse the interwebs.
It's cute, but also insanely pathetic.

Oh! The shroud is 1000 years old!

Oh wait! The fibers tested from it by the ACTUAL scientists who drew the data found them to date back to Biblical times!

Oh wait! The coin prints found on the cloth were coined back in the times of Pontius Pilate!

Oh wait!

You guys don't care to actually get information from the source! Let's get it from someone with an agenda! Brilliant!

Robotzombie #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Q u o t e:


Thats kind of a double standard is'nt it? Requiring proof and information (which science has in spades)
while you yourself present none.

There is more evidence of events in the Bible happening than anything in science because science is mostly just observations and theories that we think may be true. Scientific laws are the only things that can be proven, theories are simply there to conjure up an explanation.

Robotzombie #racist forums.worldofwarcraft.com

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This post is Win.

Personally i call today the "Obama-nation Inauguration" Day.

While watching i was waiting for the bullet.

Me too, I'm sad it never came. I was in school surrounded by black kids rapping about Obama, I am not kidding. It was so fail.

with #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

But the fact that you all can spew some scientific fact on a message board doesn't prove your point.

Science never interested me because all I saw it doing was trying to disprove God, anyways if you want to watch some stuff on creationism since you know everything about evolution check out Dr. Dino AKA Dr. Hovind and he will explain how the Bible proves evolution is a farce.

Cheesecake #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

The debate shouldn't revolve around needing evidence for God, or for belivers needing to supply evidence for their beliefs. That's why we have faith. If we had evidence, God wouldn't have told us to have faith.


.The debate is really between Scientists and their own experiments trying to create life, write "new" genetic information in cells, and going against the laws of entropy. Simply put: If science has never shown life coming from non-life then science, itself, has undermined evolution.

Until Scientists can prove the foundation of evolution through experiments, they have no business claiming evolution as a "Fact" within the scientific community.

Rowdie #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

As a straight man, I can marry a woman of my choice. I cannot, however, marry a man of my choice.

If I were a gay man, I could marry a woman of my choice. I could not, however, marry a man of my choice.

Hmm... seems like equality to me.

Making a specific allowance for gays to marry other men is discrimination against straight men; we are only allowed to marry women, but gays are allowed to marry either.

The fact that I don't want to marry another man, or that a guy man doesn't want to marry a woman, is not the point. Marriage laws are the same if the couple loves each other or if they enter into the contract for material benefit. The government does not recognize 'love', so complaining that straight men can marry the women they love and gay men cannot is moot (or moo).

Pacotaco #racist forums.worldofwarcraft.com

how about the fact that barry soetoro or whatever his name really is hasnt produced a valid birth certificate and is delaying the trial till after the election?

i care about that.

its bad enough that there is a small chance we have a nigger for president, but even worse that its gotta be a niggerfaggot with big ears and blue lips that isnt even a citizen.

Rengar #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Almost all Atheists I've seen act with blind hatred towards Christianity. I've never seen one criticize a religion deserving more scorn, like Islam or Bhuddism. Mainstream atheism is less about not believing in a deity, and more about bigotry towards solely Christians.

Teuton #racist forums.worldofwarcraft.com

We live in Jewmerica now where the holocaust is like religion. Cause basically it's the card that Jewish people play and they can't afford to lose it.

Hence why questioning the holocaust leads to all the anger and hate even if you're just really curious about facts and evidence.

Rengar #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

The whole point of Bhuddism is to eventually do nothing. It is to reach "Nirvana", to "let go" of all things, is it not? So, in other words, you become a useless person, a person who never helps thier fellow man, who does nothing for anyone, even themselves. You stop working, you stop having fun, you stop everything. It is nothing more than a breathing suicide. That people actually follow this insane philosophy from a moronic inbred prince who couldn't even "let go" of his massive gut, that died with nothing but his filthy cloak and a burst stomach is depressing.

Nooneightlol #conspiracy forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Are idiots trying to say religion is the cause of millions of death again? Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler, Pol Pot, they all make the crusades like a playground fight.


Don't say "Hitler was a Christian LOL" either. It was all part of the plan to destroy Christianity from the inside out. He just couldn't piss off the Christians before he became powerful.

Silverline #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

What everyone seems to be missing, which I think is due to propaganda, is that gays already have the same rights as straights. They just don't want those rights. No one in the United States can marry "who they want". They can marry someone of the opposite gender. Straights, as well as gays, have just as much right to marry as anyone else. It just has to be with someone of the opposite sex.

So the debate shouldn't be whether they have the same rights or not. Clearly they do. Its whether we, as a society, want people of the same sex to enter into marriage, gay or straight.

To say its an issue of rights is both irresponsible and alarmist, and makes your position factually incorrect.

And no, it isn't "separate but equal". There is no difference at all in how a gay person may exercise the institution of marriage than a straight person. And honestly, that's their issue. It is the exact same as a person who is straight. They want something that is different. They want something tailored made for them.

I'm against it, but I'm not going to lose sleep if it ends up passing. But I will be absolutely furious if the will of the people is thwarted by judicial tyranny under the guise of "rights". One of our biggest problems as a society is that the people are ignored, and men in black robes deciding our future reeks of an Oligarchy.

Pastorb #conspiracy forums.worldofwarcraft.com

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god didn't give them the strength to get off drugs they did it themselves "god" is a convenient excuse for people who lack the courage to believe that they have the strength to do anything they want... rather than some form of divine power metered out by heavily hypocritical religion


Wrong. Faith in God has been proven to give people temporary superhuman, in some cases, abilities.

Corbenine #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

You're not understanding.

Listen to me. An asteroid, one that could have wiped out all the dinosaurs, would have basically destroyed all life on Earth.

All of it. Except for Bacteria that existed deep, deep underground. And chances are, those probably got killed too. Therefore, Earth's fauna would have to have had to "Reset itself" from single-celled organisms that scientists just "Believe" somehow came to be. Spontaneous Generation doesn't work and isn't involved. If this entire Fauna thing reset, then we have from the minute it reset to now to evolve into humans.

That isn't possible. Meaning an Asteroid couldn't have hit Earth.

Fruscainte #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Don't even bother, she is in fact trolling or an idiot. Your questions are valid, and something most people would expect (no offense).

Bottom line: At a distance, Evolution looks valid and plausible. When looked into, it has no chance.

So when someone looks deeper, they know they cant answer so all they do is spit out insults.

Neegro #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Antichrist is a charismatic guy who will seem to have the solution for all the world's problems.
Obama is this.
Antichrist is of Muslim descent.
Omba is this.
Everyone will love the antichrist until he turns evil 31/2 years into his reign
3 1/2 years from now is 2012, the year the Mayans predict to be the apocolypse.
The antichrist will seem to survive a fatal injury:
Obama will be shot or something by some #*# hicks or skinheads, leading to a near fatal injury.

in short, vote mccain

Pastorb #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

[On abortion]
Q u o t e:


What about the ones who aren't? And why can't these women take responsbility for their own actions? You're running out of straws here, let's see which one you grasp.


Those women should be shot alongside the doctors.


If you get an abortion out of coldness of your being, you should be shot.
That's rare though, like an abortion to save your life is.
The people who kill doctors aren't terrorists, they're heroes. Like the men who went out and shot klansmen 40 years ago were.

Sendai #conspiracy forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Can make teeth yellow (and worse) true, prevents cavities- false, fluoride is a poison that ends up killing all the bacteria in your mouth (from toothpaste or mouthwash) while at the same time attacking all of your cells slowly over time, damaging every aspect of human physiology. Since there are 100% safe alternatives that can be used to kill bacteria in your mouth that cause cavities, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to use fluoride (try Hydrogen Peroxide).

There is no documented case in the world of a fluoride DEFICIENCY, and there are cities that have had zero artificially fluoridated water with better oral health statistics than those with fluoridation.

The fluoride being added to municipal water supplies is INDUSTRIAL WASTE, and up to 750x more toxic than the naturally occuring fluoride found in ground water, wells, and natural springs.

Fluoride was added to the water supply for prisoners in the concentration camps in WWII to keep them from revolting and exhibiting any substantial opposition to total tyranny and enslavement. This is documented, historical fact. A huge propaganda campaign ensued after WWII to come up with a way to dumb down the entire population and make them more docile so they would be less capable of resisting total martial law and a tyrannical overthrow of the Constitutional U.S. Government. Such as how former General Smedley Butler was attempted to be recruited to carry out a military coup against the United States.

Zapem #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

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The fact that she is a lifelong member of the NRA who doesn't believe in evolution is going to make look even more stupid than we already do in the international community.

OMG, LOLOLOL!!!

Evolution hasn't proven itself, stupid! They've changed their minds so many times it's hilarious! I bet you in 20 years they'll be siding with the Bible and you atheists will be crying in your soup. And yeah, why is only the ATHEIST evolution THEORY being taught in schools? Rather prejudiced and should be done away with ASAP.

As for the NRA, it's our constitutional right to have and bear arms!!! You go, Palin!!!

As for Barry, I think he's a sexist who doesn't like women and especially, women gunowners! lol

Riotos #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

in order to belive adam came from sand you must belive that god can do all things, which makes it work just fine.

the bottom line is, beliving man evolved from monkeys does absolutely nothing for you.

lets say your right, and man came from monkeys, that means there is probobly nothing in the afterlife. that means we both get said nothingness.

now lets say your wrong, and there is a god. your belife in monkeys gives you eternety in purgatory (or hell if your an evil bastard)

somehow to me, the reward does not outweigh the risk

Arkanius #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Evolution is not a fact. It's crap in science book sold en masse to unwittingly foolish people who buy that and replace God and religion with it.

A human being, in all his complexities and consciousness is leagues beyond the mere apes inhabiting the planet. It's -NOT- proven. I repeat NOT proven. It is THEORIZED.

But the majority of posters will claim fake E-Degrees or are still in college and HIGH school, not realizing that School and Science have sought to become THEIR religion, and nothing else. Not even FREE thought.

"Yay, we read it in school, it must be true!" "Supposed experts who have only lived 40 years say it's true, so it must be!"

Did it ever occur to you that all our great scientists had a BELIEF in a higher being or god, and that without such a belief, science was null and void anyways? For many, it was the belief in science that God existed because it gave explanations to a complex universe.

Tricey #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

America was founded to protect Christians from evil, paegen religions like that mystical woodoomoomoo crap.

Also, now I see why your trying to shove the Communist Manifesto down my throat; you're British! You haven't gotten over the fact that time and time again, we've kicked your ass and then had the decency to save you in both World Wars. Stop trying to take over my country. We won. You lose.

Hectic #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Except if I'm not mistaken there is no evidence for that common ancestor. The so-called missing link?

So what caused this split? How exactly does this split work? Does this mean A1 and A2 then both happened to travel miles apart from one another and never, ever had contact again for no reason? Wouldn't you want to stay close to someone whom is basically like a relative?

Porscha #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Evolution has about 10-15 years left in it before the evidence against it will be overwhelmingly undeniable. It already is pretty obvious that it didn't happen that way, the tide is shifting in the academic world but still too many scientists have made a career of promoting evolution so they won't be changing their tune this late in the game.


It helps alot that evolutionists are so incredibly arrogant and dogmatic too, slandering and insulting anyone who has a different opinion. This should speed up the rate at which the world grows weary of this silly little wive's tale.

Potence #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

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Seperation of church and state was considered very important by the founding fathers, I am going to guess they know quite a bit more about what is good for society than you do.

Teach your religions on your own time.

Seperation of church and state is not in the constitution, it is part of a ruling by the supreme court as a possible interpretation of the law


The founding fathers, whom where almost a vast majority Christian, didn't want the State establishing a church, but in all honesty, I don't think they meant to prevent the church from establishing laws, if it holds a majority vote, etc.

I personally think Religion shouldn't be taught in schools, but then I also think if a group of students want to hold a religious gathering, that they should have full state funding to do so. I also don't think evolution should be taught either nor big bang theory, since they are a full-blow theory that has several massive issues with its formulation that still need to be fixed (and imho are impossible to fix because of the inherent flaws of the theory)

Of course, Seperation of church and state is preached in public schools as part of the constitution, as it is inherent to it, when in fact, it is merely a possible interpretation of the law that several past judges took, a future ruling could easily overrule that law.

/sigh public schools

Leondenardae #homophobia forums.worldofwarcraft.com

It amazes me how homosexuals can wonder why people are against them by stating that their activity isn't hurting anybody.

They seem to overlook the fact that everyone of them that admitted their homosexuality to their parents HURT THEIR PARENTS.

Parents just had to accept it and move on or disown their child. But the homosexuals put their parents in the position to have to do that.

Pastorb #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

[Commenting on the "kidnapping" of a eucharist]

You DO know he committed a crime right? Stealing something of religious value is dick like. Also, saying "it's just a damned cracker" shows lack of understanding of Catholicism, meaning I don't care about any death threats you may get.

[Regarding university professor who commented on the same issue]

And by the way, that's a hate crime. Crime motivated by hate. Hello, prison, good bye, useless cushy job!

Cheechoo #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

Obama was born in Hawaii

Obama was born with US and KENYA citizenships.

Obama's Kenyon citizenship expired like, what 10 years ago?

The "conflict" here is whether Obama is qualified because the current law states a person cannot be the President if he or she has/had dual citizenships.

Does it also not bother people Obama lied when he stated he's never gone by any other name beside Barack H. Obama? It should. Why would anyone use an alias unless there was reason? I'm not sure but maybe you can ask Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, or Barry Dunham.

The issue is whether Obama is not a natural-born citizen; and/or
Lost his citizenship when he was adopted in Indonesia; and/or
Has dual loyalties because of his citizenship with Kenya and Indonesia.
Numerous questions raised about Obama’s background have no satisfactory answers:

Where was Obama born?

Hawaii; an island off of Hawaii; Kenya; Canada?

School records list Obama as a citizen of Indonesia. Was he a citizen of Kenya, Indonesia and/or Canada?

Explanation of the names he has used: Barack Obama, Barry Soetoro, Barry Obama, Barack Dunham, & Barry Dunham.

Illinois Bar Application – Obama fails to acknowledge use of names other than Barack Hussein Obama, a blatant lie.

Treemode #fundie forums.worldofwarcraft.com

How about the fact that the Bible is the only book to ever accurately predict history?

‘I am against you, O Tyre, and I will bring many nations against you, like the sea casting up its waves. They will destroy the walls of Tyre and pull down her towers; I will sc##@# away her rubble and make her a bare rock. Out in the sea she will become a place to spread fishnets, for I have spoken’, declares the Sovereign Lord—’For this is what the Sovereign Lord says: From the north I am going to bring against Tyre Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon—They will plunder your wealth and loot your merchandise; they will break down your walls and demolish your fine houses and throw your stones, timber and rubble into the sea—..I will make you a bare rock, and you will become a place to spread fishnets. You will never be rebuilt, for I the Lord have spoken, declares the Sovereign Lord.’”

This is God speaking to the city of Tyre. A few hundred years later, Alexander the Great reduced the walls of Tyre to rubble, and built a causeway out of that rubble. Nowadays, 2,000 years later, fishermen dry their nets on that causeway.