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Dread Helm #homophobia theologyonline.com

['How can Bu$h be pro-fag? He wanted a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage.']

Next thing you know people will be saying that he's against homosexuality because he doesn't support gay dental benefits. Bush should support the recriminalization of homosexuality. That's a much more worthy endeavor.

Lon #fundie theologyonline.com

Separation of Church and state today means atheism

Then why not just let people rob steal and kill then? I believe we do start with God but people are trying to separate church and state.

Honestly, this is what that is: It is censorship of Christianity and Judaism. It is a denial of our unalienable rights, and it is a rewriting of our Constitution and history as a nation.

Why? Because everyone votes that morals must be upheld unless it is one held by a Christian or Jew. Then it is not allowed: separation of church and state.

So, who is controlling our country over such? --> Everyone against Christians and other religions.

We've turned over our nation to people who are now turning around and saying "Get out! You are not welcome here." That's separation of church and state and what it means today.

carolus magnus #fundie theologyonline.com

Athiests, evolutionists, and the like delight in mocking God as a bad designer because mankind sins. If he had made us perfect, then we couldn't sin.

This argument crumbles when applied to anything else. Which reveals what a fallacy it is.

For example, a knife could be a perfectly designed instrument for chopping vegetables, but also capable of killing someone. Does this mean there is a flaw in the design of the knife? Was the designer of the knife an idiot for having made this tool with the side effect of being a weapon?

In much the same way, by making humans a perfectly designed instrument for having a relationship with (freewill), they are also capable of sin.

Of course you atheists cannot believe freewill exists. It is not possible for you to believe in freewill and have any sort of consistency in your philosophy. Freewill requires a force outside of the laws of this universe in order to be enacted.

aCultureWarrior #homophobia theologyonline.com

I am a HETEROSEXUAL man and I don't molest little girls/teenage ones, or anyone for that matter.

Sigh, now if only a HOMOSEXUAL male would come forward and tell us that he doesn't buggerize little boys/teenage boys or anyone for that matter, showing us that he is not like homosexual icons Harry Hay, Frank Kameny, David Thorstadt, Harvey Milk , Peter Tatchell, etc. etc. etc.

Who will be the first to come forward?

aCultureWarrior #fundie #homophobia #forced-birth theologyonline.com

[aCultureWarrior has a bit of a meltdown and discusses me and my partner]

Well then, I guess besides being a lying (or to paraphrase annabenedettttti 'LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!') coward, who is a closet fag that molests children, I'm also a adulterer.

Wait, I forgot something:

'and and and I'm pro choice too!'

That being said, I'm certain that the drag queen homosexual who is engaged to a man that plans on having genital mutilation surgery to become a woman, is sitting back in his pantyhose and hi heels smiling knowing that there are Christians out there that believe he has some kind of "right" to teach America's children, to work in daycare facilities, or to mentor youth in the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, or the rest of the long list of youth mentor organizations that have allowed openly (i.e. proud and unrepentant) homosexuals into their organizations.

Robert Pate #fundie theologyonline.com

Scientist will never be able to make life.

All life comes from God, who is the author of life. Not only does he give life, he also takes life.

My question for you is why is creation so orderly? The sun rises and sets at designated times. The four seasons come and go right on time. If everything was created by a big bang where did this order come from? Why are all of the planets including the earth so round? If there was a big bang wouldn't they be uneven or jagged.

Door #fundie #homophobia theologyonline.com

(This whole thread is a gold mine of stupid.)

[Roptom: I posted a link to the study of homosexuality and not one of you have bothered to even look at it, because the bible says this, and the bible says that, take your head out of the bible for just one minute and look at the real world for once!]

Take your head out of the homosexual and look at the Bible for once.

OMEGA #fundie theologyonline.com

Archeologists have uncovered fossils of Huge Kangaroos that are much larger
than todays Kangaroos.

But why do we not have those same huge Kangaroos today.

Millions of years ago, God and His angels were experimenting with

all different kinds of Life forms and very slowly genetically altered

their DNA to improve them in various ways. They improved their digestion

process, their bone structure, endocrine system etc etc.

But why were they so big? Because it is easier to see how a their body works

such as a hip joint or heart valve when it is larger. Just as we do today, we

create TV sets that are larger and we make them more efficient and

then we eventually miniturize them and that is what God and His Angels

did with the Animal life that they genetically engineered over the Millions of

years here on the Earth before Satan destroyed the Dinosaurs and Kangaroos

Inzl Kett #fundie #homophobia theologyonline.com

Don't you love it, when they try to equate hating sinful behavior with hating the person?

The reason why I hate homosexuality and read very carefully! It is a behavior that marks rebellion against God and rejection of His word!

Homosexuality and its attendant behaviors--crossdressing etc is worship of self. Putting oneself and sexuality ahead of God. It is the most liberal Christians that whine for special protection and rights for this indecent behavior. It's not normal and it's self destructive. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that its harmful.

Trying the normalize this behavior and say it's OK is the most unloving thing you can do for someone trapped in this sin.

Let's use the example of the alcoholic:

Al loves his bottle. He takes it every where he goes. His freinds don't want to offend him or confront him about his getting drunk all the time. "He not hurting anyone", says his brother. Al spends all his personal time drinking. His freind even buy him wine and beer at social functions and weddings. He is even developing liver disease because of his habit. Despite this, Al manages to be sober enough in the morning to hold down his janitor's job. Now are Al's friend doing him any favors? Remember, this is a behavior pattern. It's debatable if given the right conditions that Al may have avoided this.

The truth is Al's family and friends are not doing him any favors by not getting him any help. That same is true of the homosexual. We have become a society of enablers. We enable people to live self destructive lifestyles instead of helping them deal with their sin.

paleo-Reformed #fundie theologyonline.com

They have a right to life until they violate one of God’s laws that requires capital punishment. Simple unbelief doesn’t fall under it. But they couldn’t vote, run for or hold office nor slander and defame YHWH in print or over the airwaves. Things of that nature.

Husband&Father #fundie theologyonline.com

When I was young I was susceptible to chicken pox, then I got chicken pox, then I developed a resistance to chicken pox. I am an organism that has an immune system, I became immune I DID NOT EVOLVE. Antibiotic resistance is a complex immune system that defends a species (bacteria) but does not 'evolve' it.

Inzl Kett #fundie #homophobia theologyonline.com

[in regards to me after I said "I'm far too good, decent, kind, and moral of a person to be associated with you, Nick, SD, or Jesus."]

His pride stands in the way of his repenting. Atheism is very common among homosexuals. Why? Because it is a worldview that does not require accountability. There is no god in atheism for the Atheist to answer to but himself, the perfect set up for a person who's life revolves around himself.

Homosexuality is the lowest form of self love that there is. Rather, it is a self obsession. The person wants or craves a lover that is like themselves. Homosexuals are selfish by nature. They don't give a darn if their lifestyle negatively impacts children or the culture at large. It is a adoration and a worship of self. Who gives a zip about others is the philosophy behind this lifestyle. Homosexuals are selfish to the point that they even want to force acceptance of their behavior on churches and privately owned businesses.

aCultureWarrior #fundie #homophobia theologyonline.com

While public restroom sex, public park sex, bath house sex, is a huge part of the homosexual lifestyle, when I said that "they want it all", I meant that they were never content with just having deviant sex. They want so-called "rights" to marry, adopt, mentor youths, serve in the military, etc. based on an immoral, deviant yet changeable behavior.

...

Hence the "A" in the longer version of the LGBT acronym, LGTQQ&A: Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender (drag queens are part of the T by the way) Queer Questioning (for those 5 year olds that still haven't figured out their sexual "identity") and ALLIES.

The homosexual movement relies heavily on ally support. I've shown politicans that don't claim to be homosexual that have been great allies to the homosexual movement. Pride Parades (i.e. the march of the moral degenerates) have 10's of thousands of straight people that attend. Again, they are allies of the homosexual movement.

aCultureWarrior #fundie #homophobia theologyonline.com

More on the Boy Scouts considering not denying membership to youth on the basis of sexual orientation.

From the memo above:

“For this reason, the Executive Committee, on behalf of the National Executive Board, wrote a resolution for consideration that would remove the restriction denying membership to youth on the basis of sexual orientation alone and would maintain the current membership policy for all adult leaders of the Boy Scouts of America. The voting members will take action on the resolution during the Boy Scouts of America’s National Annual Meeting on May 23, 2013.”

First of all, is anyone else bothered that society, and especially a youth mentor organization that was founded on biblical values, is accepting the term “gay youth”? These children need spiritual and pyschological guidance to help them become free from this perversion known as homosexuality, not being told that it’s a legitimate behavior.

Secondly, let’s say that 12 year old Timmy, who was adopted by Adam and Steve at age 2, sodomized by them or their homosexual friends at age 5, and told by his ‘parents’ and the culture he is raised in that homosexual behavior is perfectly normal and hence turns out to be a proud and unrepentant homosexual himself, what kind of message is that sending to the other Boy Scouts?

Let’s say that little Timmy stays with the Scouts and in his upper teens makes it to the rank of Eagle Scout, will he be allowed to mentor younger Scouts, including going on overnight campouts with them?

Of course the homosexual movement won’t just accept the fact that “gay youth” will be accepted into the BSA (if the BSA should decide to go that route in May), as that would be “discriminatory”, thus the lawsuits will continue against the BSA.

Like everything that homosexuality touches, should the Boy Scouts decide to change their once biblical foundation to allow people that are proud of their immoral behavior into their organization, the Boy Scouts of America will die a slow agonizing death.

aCultureWarrior #homophobia theologyonline.com

[aCultureWarrior explains to alwight why all homosexuals should be criminalised because of the actions of a few.]

Let me explain about the Homosexual Collective a different way alwight.

Let's say you and your boyfriend live in the US and you wanted to get married (in some states for now, more will follow). Because "some" militiant homosexual activists became involved in the culture and political scene, all that you and your boyfriend would have to do is go get a marriage license.

The same goes with Education; you can become a openly homosexual teacher because of what "some" militant homosexual activists did.

The Church; you can become a homosexual pastor in many churches because of what "some" militant homosexual activists did.

Government: You can hold political office because of what "some" militant homosexual activists did.

The Military: You can join the military as an openly homosexual male or female (activists are currently working on allowing transsexuals into the military as well) because of what "some" militant homosexual activists did.

The list goes on and on.

Are you starting to get the picture, or are you still going to play dumb alwight?

aCultureWarrior #fundie #homophobia #kinkshaming theologyonline.com

You made a wise choice not to talk about the current topic Art:

What happens when homosexuals are allowed to adopt,

as child molestation is very difficult to defend.

That being said: You forgot a very important word in your mockery of Phil Robertson:

"Marry" (as in "marry them before they're 20").

As I told The Mother Hen in another thread:

What was Phil thinking? Girls should go out and experience life. Sleep around, have a few abortions, shack up with a guy or 3, and then if you think you've found the right one, marry him. Of course if that doesn't work out, there is always no fault divorce and you can go your own separate ways with no questions asked.

Sounds like a pretty good alternative to marrying at a younger age, having children, and being faithful to your spouse (and God) for the rest of your life doesn't it Art?

Angel4Truth #fundie theologyonline.com

Its you that cannot do math, if 1 percent of homos are pedos, and the population of homos is 4 percent, then 1 of every 4 is a pedo.

*i say more than that though, its not like pedos come right out and admit what they are!

Jefferson #fundie theologyonline.com

[Perhaps the people who are seeing this movie {Brokeback Mountain} are "liberal"...]

But not very many of them. Why not Granite? Have you seen the movie yet? Can you watch 2 men kiss without cringing? If you say yes, then you're lying.

CRASH #fundie theologyonline.com

['Yeah I mean the economy has not benefited at all,from the education given to all.']

That's a good point.

['Do you mean the literal point I made or the sacastic position behind it?
I.e do you think it has,or hasn't benefited?']

What you said was accurate.
Our economy, as well as many other segments of our society, have suffered becuase of the liberal, godless, gutted, government "education" we have given the imprisoned children of America.

Public school = prison for kids

MaryContrary #fundie theologyonline.com

I guess we need to clarify what it is to be persecuted then. Does it require a systematic abuse, perpetrated by a large group or government? Is one's death or torture necessary? Is it not accurate to say that Dan Cathy, the CEO of Chick-fil-A, is currently being persecuted?

rocketman #fundie theologyonline.com

Such is the way with the moral relativist...no benchmarks, no standards, just whatever feels right at the moment to them. Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, etc. would have been proud...they also subscribed to the same relative sense of morality, or lack thereof.

truthman #fundie theologyonline.com

Some time ago, here at TOL, I started a thread which sought to re-label Liberals and Conservatives.

I stated that we, as Conservatives, should be called the Liberals, because we seek to liberate people from bondage, from oppression, and to liberate their God given rights.

It is the Liberals who are the ones who seek to conserve those things.

So, let it never be said that it was the right-wingers who lynched blacks, they just had the wrong label. They were very interested in 'conserving' or 'restricting' people's God given right to life.

aCultureWarrior #fundie theologyonline.com

Once again you have to realize that like thieves, there is a certain "honor code" amongst perverts.

When it comes to thievery, the shoplifter doesn't turn in the burglar, as who is he to talk, his behavior is just as immoral as the burglars.

The same with sexual deviants; while "man-boy love" might not be every homosexuals "thing", who are they to talk when their actions are just as immoral as the pederast.

John Ladder #fundie theologyonline.com

"Atheists tend to be selfish bastards, as we see clearly in many of the posts here. Hence the tendency of encountering athiests as single non-parents.

You're missing the point regarding the lack of "controls". If you eliminated the married folks from consideration (or separated them), there would be a stronger bias for suicide among atheists who have no family.

This 2004 study isn't dated at all, and remains quite interesting since there have been no other studies.

How laughable it is to read the bravado of the atheists here. Their overconfidence will not serve them well in the end.

It's quite simple: The typical atheist could care less about God or their fellow man. The rejection of God leaves him with nothing in the moment of severe mental crisis. Having nothing, he wants to become nothing. Persistent doubt now culminates in despairing agony. But there is no God to pull him out. Ignorance was bliss, but now it becomes excruciating pain. Once strong in his freedom, he now finds himself pitifully weak.

In denying God, he denies spirituality. Since he denies his soul and the possibility of spiritual assistance from God, it is quite simply unavailable to him as he contemplates suicide.

There is nothing to lean on, since the atheist denies the Power that established him and sustains him. He's on his own. But the darkness is black. Black. It is cold and terribly lonely.

This is the sickness unto death. But death is not the end. There shall be a reckoning."

Lighthouse #fundie theologyonline.com

Just stop fornicating!
Stop having sex outside the confines of God's guidelines.

No more homosexuality.

No more abortion.

That's all that needs to be done and these things will stop.

But people don't want to give up their vices, do they? Greedy, selfish, self-centered, and thereby hypocrites.

aCultureWarrior #fundie theologyonline.com

So there I was, sitting in Applebee's having a nice lunch (a cup of french onion soup their signature club sandwich) and lo and behold on the tv facing me 10 feet away I have to put up with being indoctrinated on the evils of homophobia by ESPN.

For those of you that haven't heard, Toronto Blue Jays shortstop Yunel Escobar had the audacity to write some miniscule word in Spanish on his eye black during a recent game that the gay gestapo deemed "homophobic". Even though Escobar apologized and lowered his moral standards into the gutter by stating that he's not homophobic and has fag friends, the tolerant child molesters at GLAAD (Gay Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation) would have nothing to do with it, and Escobar was suspended for 3 games and forced to pay the $92,000 lost in wages to GLAAD and "You Can Play", a group of proud/unrepentant homosexual athletes (all 12 of them).
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/83...slur-eye-black
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-400_162-...-on-eye-black/
http://youcanplayproject.org/

What was so disgusting about the ESPN coverage is that some lisper from GLAAD sat there talking with a panel from ESPN about the evil of homophobia for a half hour (hence ruining my nice lunch) and NONE of the former athletes not once dared say a word denouncing the immoral, promiscuous, disease ridden 'deathstyle'.

Undoubtedly they wanted to keep their jobs.

aCultureWarrior #fundie theologyonline.com

[on a lesbian being assaulted by an anti-gay protester]


The guy that assaulted the lesbo had no more right to assault her than he did someone that proudly displays that they are having a incestuous or bestial relationship (i.e. the law protects those kind of people from assault as well).

If the law were righteously enforced, then the lesbo wouldn't be running around showing off her perversion, and hence most likely wouldn't be attacked.

As it is, the rate of domestic violence is very high inside the sodomite so-called "community", so violence isn't anything new to those that partake in the homosexual lifestyle.

Regarding the assault against the street preacher:

As I've shown in another thread [this one, WHMBR!], the silencing of Christians that speak out against homosexuality (or anyone for that matter, they don't have to be Christian) and the agenda that goes along with it is a mainstay of a well organized movement. The white gorilla and the cute little lesbos that were involved in the melee were just following their gaystapo "marching orders".

Inzl Kett #fundie theologyonline.com

There is a subculture out there is that just as sick and twisted as this--they call themselves 'furries'. I met one on another message board. He started a thread promoting his lifestyle. My question is for Wizard of Oz, AB and Fool, would you let a furry, style your hair, change the oil of your car or roof your house?

Homosexuality is not any better than the sick lifestyle of the furry.

CRASH #fundie theologyonline.com

(I have met homeschooled children, and their social skills flat out suck.)

You are full of it. Public school students typically stammer and stare at the floor when spoken to. I've met hundreds of homeschool kids over the years and have yet to see the supposed problem with social skills. Unless you mean they don't know how to put a condemn on a banana, roll a joint or work a bong. If those are the social skills you are referring to then yes, homeschoolers are deficient in those skills.

Husband&Father #fundie theologyonline.com

You don’t need to delve into the sub-atomic to prove evolution is bunk. Evolutionists can’t answer the chicken / question, they don’t know what birds did with feathers before they could fly, they can’t tell us why the first mosquitoes decided, on a whim, to start sucking blood. They have no answers to the easy questions...

Angel4Truth #fundie theologyonline.com

[In response to the statement, "Obviously the problem of homosexuality goes back to OT times."]

Yes, they killed them then so ill be willing to bet those who still insisted on it remained hidden or decided they weren't really that way.

Funny how the more legal it becomes, the more of them there are. I guess there would be more murderers if it were legal too.

truthman #fundie theologyonline.com

['In case you people haven't figured it out, Jesus does not hate faggots and babykillers!']

Jesus loves babykillers? Sure. God's right there, giving love and support to the abortionist at the same time that the freak is using tongs to tear a baby limb from limb. God hates him with a perfect hatred!

Inzl Kett #fundie theologyonline.com

The sexual perversions are specifically destructive to the person and his family, unlike smoking and overeating. You don't contract STD's from cigarettes, food or beer. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that the human body is not designed for same gender intimacy. It is a dysfunction. Our country shouldn't be enabling people in this. I am not interested in debate on this. I hate the lifestyle as much as ACW does because is destroys people and above all it separates them from God.

Apologist #fundie theologyonline.com

Crush? Well, that depends on how you define crush.

Webster defines "crush" in that manner as " an intense and usually passing infatuation "
Webster defines "infatuation" as ": to inspire with a foolish or extravagant love or admiration "

That being said, I have a lasting "crush" on my Teacher. I "crush" for Christ.

Don't y'all?

Inzl Kett #fundie theologyonline.com

What have we learned from OWS:

Idiots have a herd instinct, even if it clogs traffic.
Morons behave like animals when you get them En-mass.
Liberals are more of a threat to POTUS than conservatives.
The media paints these bums in a positive light-not reporting their vandalism.
The protest has gathered to detract the public from failed Obama policies.
These gathering don't solve problems--rather they create them.
OWS is nothing more than a mob composed of troublemakers, drug addicts and vandals.
Liberalism appeals to the drug and criminal element.

aCultureWarrior #fundie theologyonline.com

Won't it be great when Obergefell v Hodges, Lawrence v Texas and Roe v Wade (and let's not forget Obamacare) will be repealed under a President Ted Cruz and you secular humanists will no longer have a monopoly on immoral legislation?

aCultureWarrior #fundie theologyonline.com

I kinda feel sorry for those "home grown-clean living" homosexuals that you constantly talk about Al, as this information is giving them a bad reputation. I just wish that a "home grown-clean living" homosexual would come forward and tell us that there is no promiscuity, no violence, no misery in his and whathisname's long term (3 week) relationship.

Gosh, if Chuck were here he'd tell us that the only violence in his relationship is the knife that's going to be taken to his boyfriend's genital area by a quack of a doctor.

Cattyfan #fundie theologyonline.com

I hear these same idiotic statements over and over. It isn't forcing a child. It's teaching a child.

You wouldn't let your kid make his or her own choice about the rightness and wrongness of things like stealing, murder, drugs, or alcohol. Why would you choose not to educate them on something as important as their immortal soul?

musterion #fundie theologyonline.com

A proposition for homosexuals

Greetings,

We want the word gay returned to us. It's a perfectly fine word but it can no longer be used as intended, because of you. Our children cannot enjoy singing along with the theme to The Flintstones, as we used to do, without mumbling in shame or laughing out loud at that part of the lyrics. In American History classes, teachers can never discuss "The Gay Nineties" without adding an awkward, distracting caveat.

In exchange, we offer you the full, free and exclusive use of festive. Even though we know it doesn't really fit you any better than gay, we never use it so it's just sitting around gathering dust. As a bonus, we'll throw in flamboyant and fabulous, which you've already annexed anyway.

Please consider this offer. Thanks.

Sincerely,

At least 98% of the world's population

Adambassador #fundie theologyonline.com

Liberal hypocrisy re: George Tiller's murder - Today, 01:44 PM
For years, the liberals have tried to reach out to gang members to try and show them a better way to live. To give them opportunities to make it in a life that is not one of violence.

For years, the liberals have tried to reach out to drug dealers and drug users to try and show them a better way to live. To give them help, hope and support to leave their destructive lifestyles.

For years, liberals in the church have reached out to adulterers and other sinners to 'accept them as they are', show forgiveness, and provide restoration through 'divorce workshops' and the like.

For years, liberals have reached out to criminals in this and other countries to open up 'talks' and 'communication' to better understand each other.

SO, NOW PRO-LIFERS ARE BEING CALLED DOMESTIC TERRORISTS? The liberals have been after us for years, trying to get us locked up for supposed insanity, 'violent' nature, and illegal behavior. THEY WANT US LOCKED UP! THEY WANT TO TAKE AWAY OUR KIDS.

Where are our 'talks'? Where's the liberals? Why aren't they reaching out to us in kindness to 'show us a better way' and present 'opportunities to move up in society' and become better people?

That stuff doesn't exist. Do I need to detail the violence and crime against pro-lifers over the years? Dare I say that the God given rights of living persons over the last 42 years have been violated in more way than can be documented?

(Keep in mind after reading my post that I do not consider Scott Roeder and Steve Wetzel from mttu.com as part of our movement. They are not truly pro-life. This is directed at the liberals who think that Roeder and Wetzel are part of us.)

aCultureWarrior #fundie theologyonline.com

A civilzed society is supposed to put a collar and leash on your atheist and pagan friends. We had laws that prohibited the murdering of the unborn (I'm sure the people at Planned Parenthood are "good Chrisians" like elo), laws that prohibited Bruce and Kevin sodomizing each other in the privacy of their own public restroom toilet stall, laws against Granite indulging in his favorite "literature" while he's locked inside the bathroom, etc. etc. etc.

And if you think that decent Americans are just going to sit back and "do nothing about it", then you better check the potency of the bud you've been smoking Rusha, because it's making you "delusional".