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Uberbeliever #fundie christianforums.com

A woman wants to abort a rape child? She should have thought of that before she walked down that dark alley without a male prescence, not to mention she should have thought before putting on revealing attire.

[Yes. It should (be legal). Otherwise you're screwing over the women who don't deserve their fate.]

Are you calling them victims now? Should've stayed in the house where it's safe.

Casstranquility #fundie christianforums.com

["Existence is alive." Huh? What existence? We are aware and alive, certainly, but how are you claiming that the paper on my desk is aware and alive?]

The existence of everything. I am claiming that what took the form of a piece of paper is aware and alive. I cannot say the paper is aware-only what constitutes it. I can, however, state with all truthfulness the paper is alive. It is moving-living, albeit slowly, very slowly, and within a boundary-which creates the illusion of a piece of paper.

Uberbeliever #racist christianforums.com

[In a follow-up to his original post that everyone else IGNORED]

I'm glad to see there were no "abortion is OK if she was raped" replies. If she was in fact raped, she must play the hand that was dealt to her, accept it as God's Will, and raise the interracial baby as her own.

Lifesaver #fundie christianforums.com

The problem, Theresa, is that most people do not have fully consistent belief systems.

So someone who does not believe in God may also believe in karma and in angels. Is this person an atheist? Yes.

Afterall, there are many people who don't believe in the existence of God but who accept the existence of men and of rocks. And these beliefs are also inconsistent.

savedandhappy1 #fundie christianforums.com

Yep, when it comes down to it I want to go home. I have always said that if we were attacked they would probably bomb Wichita, Ks., which is 2 hours west of me, and that I would drive as fast as I could toward Wichita. Why wait for the fallout to blow my way? I would prefer to spend up what was going to happen anyway.

...I really can't say what I will do till something happens, but do know that He is with me, and I know as you said that to die is gain. PRAISE THE LORD!!

MattMarriot #fundie christianforums.com

The REAL distance from SUN to EARTH - revealed worldwide first by Matt Marriott

There are no doubts that Earth does not orbit the sun.
The hoax was created by the satanists to destroy the credibility of the Bible.
There are no doubts that Earth does not rotate (1). So there's only one question left:
How fast is the sun REALLY moving around the Earth?
Or in other words: what is the real distance from Earth to the Sun?

Answer: A fraction of what you were told in school...
A sun which size is a fraction of what you were told in school...

1 + 1 = 2
End Times is when some of those 1 + 1 equations that were previously hidden finally surface.
Solar eclipses (2) are not even in that category. They have been around from the beginning ...

Notes:
(1) Reminder: to explain "scientifically" their hoaxes, the satanists use two types of "magic": unspecified equations for observable facts (examples: evolution, earth's rotation) or equations for dummies for the rest (example: theory of relativity).

(2) As one reader puts it:
Simple equation:
Sun Moon and Earth in a straight line.
Sun emits light, Moon blocks light, creates shadow on Earth.
Take the diameter of the Moons shadow, and distance of Moon from Earth.
I dont think the sun is as big as the solar scale says it is.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

AIDS is bio-terrorism created to kill billions some doctors and scientists say

There is a story that has actually been around for a while, but it is starting to get a lot of press about how Aids began as a part of a smallpox vaccination program in the mid-1970's. I wonder how valid this concept of biological warfare is? It could be a dream come true for the mafia to kill people off and make it look like it was the result of natural causes. Perhaps they should make a movie about it.

Gottservant #fundie christianforums.com

(On the do's and don'ts of witnessing

Don't forget baptism. Without baptism there is no remission of sins.

Do witness to every living creature (don't limit who or what you witness to). I have witnessed with success to people, birds, four-legged animals, fish and plants both above and below water.

Lisa0315 #fundie christianforums.com

[In answer to the question if you had a time machine and went back to the time of Jesus' death but found he just died and stayed dead like everyone else]

If I found that Jesus did not rise again, then, I am not sure what I would do. Faith requires me to believe anyway. The "faithful" thing to do would be to say that you had somehow rigged the system to show me a false version of the events. The logical thing to do would be to stop believing. I sure HOPE (and I know you are going to be disappointed with this answer) that my faith would be strong enough to believe even when my own eyes tell me otherwise.

Gottservant #fundie christianforums.com

Survival is a conscious choice, but if I have evolved why don't I remember it?

Memory is key to the passing on of the necessary knowledge for survival among other things. Survival is a conscious choice. Why do these two things not combined to create a memory of having evolved?

The evidence is missing for a reason. Evolution is false. The devil has deceived people that they can forget their ancestry with the justification of survival.

asianangel #fundie christianforums.com

[Emphasis added...]

Have you ever wondered why you aren't as immoral as you could be? Theres only one reason why. The grace of God has hindered you. If God were to pull back from you...no..let's make you feel better about this...if God were to pull back from me COMPLETELY, I'd be the most hideous, grotesque monster you have ever seen and I would make Hitler look like a saint. <u>God even restrained Hitler did you know that?</u> He loved his mother. If God were to pull away from him completely he would have been much worse.

B®ent #fundie christianforums.com

The rumors that the Pentagon might repeal the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy are truly disturbing, to say the least.

Not only would this be a terrible disgrace to our Armed Forces; it would also add fuel to the terrorist flame. You think the terrorists hate us now? Just imagine, for a moment, how they'll react to an Army of Sodomites!

Let me make myself clear: I do not "hate" sodomites and lesbians. I have three friends who are homosexual: one sodomite, and two lesbians. I pray for them continuously that they might come unto repentance.

Due to their immoral, rebellious, and unnatural lifestyle, however, they ought not to be permitted into the Armed Forces, unless they remain silent about their lifestyle. It's just that simple!

Voegelin #fundie christianforums.com

[What is Christian Forums teaching you?]

Not just CF but the religious and political sites on the net have made me understand those opposed to Christian morality and who mock Christian virtues are more militant, more intolerant, more impervious to rational argument and more numerous than I had suspected. Knew the mindset was out there--I grew up with it--but didn't realize opposing the faith consumes so many lives.

ReluctantProphet #fundie christianforums.com

If fact, this is one of the issues with Atheism. To the Atheist mentality, there is no after life and thus all concerns are only about what he wants for now - temporary short lived "stuff". This mentality is great for the US economy because the people don't try to save anything up and thus spend, waste, and work to buy more only to end up with nothing.

There is a part of Judaism that appreciates people who think like that. The Christian is encouraging people to try to make later generations happier than they were (or they are supposed to be anyway). Those future generations are a part of the Christian in Christian theology. The Atheist theology leaves him not really watching out for later generations or tomorrow and thus allowing political powers to creep in with greater ease. To the politically minded, the Atheist is the easy to manipulate sucker.

So in short, by assuming that your death will bring some fixed result regardless of what you do, you merely make it harder for your children and easier for political entrapment and dictatorship.

Avatar #fundie christianforums.com

As I already said numerous times, the universe (or multiverse) does not have the property of being able to create itself. A creator does. And a creator also has the property of creating itself. It is the most logical answer.

Yeah 'Goddidit'.

EchoPneuma #fundie christianforums.com

Does a canary who is hatched from an egg in a cage and lives it's whole life in the cage, know that it is in a cage?

If someone asked that bird "why are you living in a cage"?...would the bird say "what is a cage? I'm not in a cage"?

and if someone said to it...."look at those bars, feel them...that is a cage"....then the bird would say "no, that's not. That's just the nature of my world. I'm not in a cage".

Could anyone ever convince that bird that he was living and existing inside a cage? or would that bird always believe that those bars were just "nature" and the way his world was supposed to be?

When we feel the "bars" of our cage, that is God....do we just continue to believe that it's just "nature" and the way the world is supposed to be?...or do we see the cage for what it is?

The bird lived it's whole life inside the cage, and therefore couldn't see the cage...and when it was forced to see the cage....interpreted it to be just the nature of things.

we live our whole lives inside of God...and therefore can't see God, but when forced to see....interpret Him to be just the nature of things.

SweetAngeline #fundie christianforums.com

I'm tired of hearing all of this debate of homosexuality. Why is it even debateable? These people are abominations in the eyes of the Lord; they could change their ways but choose not to. There's no arguement, that's just how it is. We should burn the gays at the stake, it worked in the Inquisition...I don't see any witches around anymore (real witches, not those hippy wiccan imitation witches).

SweetAngeline #fundie christianforums.com

[In a thread about sexual orientation discrimination by small businesses in the United Kingdom.]

They should do this in the United States. I don't want to have to eat in a room with a bunch of gays.

[How bout Jews and blacks, would you eat with them, or would you run if they sided with the gays?

Just wondering.]

I don't mind other races because they don't have secret conversion agendas like the gays do.

SweetAngeline #fundie christianforums.com

On our wedding night, I confessed to my husband that I wasn't a virgin. He was furious and wouldn't speak to me for our entire honeymoon! But I understand his anger, I had given away my most precious treasure, treasure that should have been his that night.

Merlin #fundie christianforums.com

['If a Christian has a loved on suffering from cancer, or a virus or is in a coma, the Christian will usually pray to God that their loved one be cured or healed. But why is it that hardly any Christians will pray for an amputee's limb to be restored?']

Because the medical people usually do things to prevent regrowth.

truth above all else #fundie christianforums.com

[In the highly probable event that you did not search to see what Tiktaalik, Ambulocetus, and Archaeopteryx all share in common, I will tell you; They are all transitional species leading to amphibians, whales, and birds respectively.]

a big call,using fancy greek/latin words to define arbitrary intermediates ,such imaginings do nothing for the truth seeker,they appear to be lonely exceptions to a consistent pattern of fossil disconfirmation, in your mind a few poor candidates for ancestor status are enough to save a theory that presumes a worldwide history of continual evolutionary transformation, such thinking can only appeal to the most limited and stunted of minds

Keiko #fundie christianforums.com

For example, in physics, one of the first things you learn is that energy never, ever ceases to exist. Energy can only be transformed. Well...in a way, this supports the theory that when human beings die, they cannot cease to exist. Where does the energy go?

The body is physically failing, but the soul survives until the last second of life (and is sometimes brought back after a few minutes through modern medicine). Where does the energy of your thoughts go? It cannot just disappear in a snap. That's the most absurd thing I've ever heard.

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

If you look at the earth with machines and cold, dead tools, that's what you're going to get --- cold, dead "evidence"; but if you look it it through the eyes of a living transcendent Creator, that's what you're going to get --- the Truth.

westernjoe #fundie christianforums.com

I put my faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. Let's take a look at what evolutionists put their faith in:

1) Evolutionists put their faith in a mysterious primordial swamp that produced life from non-life.

2) Evolutionists put their faith in the fact that fish can morph into amphibians...that amphibians can morph into reptiles..that retiles can morph into mammals...that apes can morph into humans.

3) Evolutionists put their faith in thousands of common ancestors that have never been found.

4) Evolutionists put their faith in beneficial random mutations which have never proven to be random.

5) Evolutionists put their faith in natural selection, which has never even been tested.

6) Evolutionists put their faith in flawed dating techniques.

7) Evolutionists put their faith in the hopes that humans are actually apes.

8) Evolutionists put their faith in the hopes that a monkey can morph into a human simply by hopping down from tree branches and walking out into wide open spaces.

9) Evolutionists put their faith that a giant explosion could produce order.

10) Evolutionists put their faith that DNA could self-organize from randomly arising chemicals.

Keiko #fundie christianforums.com

Oh, and science isn't infallible either. You don't have to believe me, but I've defied all laws of physics before (unless you believe in M theory). I learned the hard way that the world is much stranger, and scarier, than I had ever imagined

YourChild #fundie christianforums.com

LOL thats interesting that you brought up this point, VET. I have noticed that these so called evolutionist "scientists" seem to somehow manage to "refute" anything to make it fit their "scientific theory". Oh by the way, if evolution is true, then that must mean that in so many years in the future, humans are going to be "evolving" into some other form. We wont be looking like how we are right now, right? evolution keeps going on nonstop right? so if this is true, the only way to find out is to take a million years leap into the future and see what your decendants look like. but since you are going to live for only another (on average) 30-40 years, you had better write a letter and glue your picture to it and pass it down to your generations stating, "this is the year 2006 and this is how I look like. Now it is 'x' years later. if you do not look anything like me (a human being), then you had better put your faith in God because the theory of evolution during my generation was all foolishness and it was unfortunate that I had to learn the hard way!

Moonglovv #fundie christianforums.com

[who, exactly, are these americans you (apparently) are proposing be executed as well?}

The ones that hate America because it is a Christian nation founded IRREFUTABLY on THE BIBLE.

Anyone who doesn't agree with that is clearly a traitor and should be executed as a war criminal. Its just that simple, obviously. I'm just suggesting we start with the most egregious offenders: sodomites.

rppearso #fundie christianforums.com

[... and workin' overtime...]

Im sure your right, I would just prefer to keep myself out of situations like Korea unless I were there to take care of buisness (which will never happen, because we couldent even take care of buissnes in the korean war, the last time we took care of buisness was Japan in WW2 and that will likely never happen again, instead we will send thousands of our own brothers and sisters to be killed by people who are not worth the change in my pocket).

The actions of the Korean government are a result of buisness not being taken care of for to long and as long as everyone wants to tip toe through the tulips it will only get worse. The same oppressive mentality is slowly creeping into the USA.

Linux98 #fundie christianforums.com

[I would think if God "changed" me enough in heaven that my parents' eternal torment in Hell would not impact me anymore, that would be a form a mind control and loss of free will. I cannot imagine under any circumstances in which I would be ok with my parents suffering for all time.]

Sure, maybe it would be a form of mind control. But then you wouldn't know any better after it was done that way.

Think of it this way. In my human state I can hold out hope that God has a loophole to save the unsaved. That makes me happy now. However, after I die it turns out that there is no loophole and God simply rewrites my mind. I'm still happy because I'm ignorant of any loss.

Either way, God fulfills his word that there will be no more sadness in heaven.

Gipper #fundie #homophobia christianforums.com

[If homosexual relations (for example) are against God's law, then would you believe that not only gay marriage would be wrong, but any kind of gay sexual activity? If so, what penalties do you think would be appropriate for breaking this law?]

Well the Bible calls for death but he who is without sin and all. I only think they should be fined or jailed.

[Other than being unConstitutional and impossible to enforce, not to mention making criminals of normal people...]

Its not normal. We put people with mental disturbancies in asylums don't we? As homosexuality is a mental disturbance they should be put in asylums for mental help and spiritual guidance.

[How would we go about legally handling the issue of straight couples who engage in "homosexual sex acts" and homosexuals who engage in acts shared between heterosexuals?]

Assuming they don't get caught there's nothing the government can do. If they get caught thought then they should at least be fined and probably have mandatory therapy.

Defensor Fidei #racist christianforums.com

[Replying to an article on <a href="http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/7A2ACB68-C9AC-4CF9-A723-7D242E4862C4.htm" target="_blank">David Irving who was sentenced to 3 years in prision for holocaust denial</a>. David Irving won and appeal to serve out the rest of his sentence on probation instead.]

This is a great triumph for free speech, expression, and historical revisionism. The sad thing is though, these disgusting atrocious "Holocaust-denial" laws are still on the books and enforced rigidly throughout occupied Europe, and there are other men rotting in prison right now for merely expressing their opinions with no end in sight. These modern-day Galileos will one day be rewarded for what they've gone through in this dark time...

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

[If life is discovered to exist on Europa, would it change anyone's mind about the book Genesis as an accurate depiction of the creation of life?]

Not at all --- this universe is teeming with life from one end to the other --- our instruments just aren't "tuned" to the right specs to detect them.

But angels aside, I don't think we'll find biological life elsewhere because of the Anthropic Principle.

Avatar #fundie christianforums.com

[Has anyone here ever heard of an atheist damaging a christian's car?]

Rather sure it happens daily. Ever heard of carjackings? I'm reasonably certain they aren't committed by devout Christians.

Not all atheists are the moral bunch we find here. Many are the worst criminals in society.

GasTank #racist christianforums.com

Evolution states that one race is more advanced in life, thus one race is supreme. That is why Hitler killed the jews and Africans, according to Evolution, Jews and Africans are less of a human then say, Germans.


Your Evolution belief is racist, demonic (yes, I mean demonic) unscriptural, and perverted.

trinityness #fundie christianforums.com

Sex is the biggest way HIV is transmitted, through premarital and homosexual sex.

And the HPV shot is far different from the tetanus shot. A tetanus shot is there to protect you from infection resulting from stepping on a rusty nail. The HPV shot is there to protect you from a just consequence of immoral sex.

GasTank #fundie christianforums.com

Thank You Evolution........ For...

The holocaust,
For the furtherance of abortion,
For making people into animals,
For the furtherance of the fall of America,
For the mocking of Christianity,
For the doubters of the bible,
For the most stupid and ignorantly so-called "facts",
For the most stupid, dumbest, fairy tell, belief.

(I might add some more later )

Such a belief,
That we were,
Undoubtabely,
Poor animals,
In such a way,
Denies God.

Please, no questions. I have already given my answers for many poorly asked questions,and am now done. For now, I will tell people the truth of the evolution theory and those who believe such a moronic thing.

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