thats what it all boils down too doesnt it? just read a science book and follow blindly whatever the evolutionists say? sorry, im what you call open minded and willing to look at other options before shutting my mouth and accepting whatever told to me in a book
Atheism is a really EVIL invention since it tells people that there is no judgement in afterlife.
Therefore an atheist can MOLEST and kill as many innocent children as POSSIBLE since the atheist has NOTHIGN to fear. This ALSO explains the rising NUMBER of child-molesters thieves and serial killers. While a religious PERSON knows that EVIL behaviour will be punished by GOD and CHILD MOLESTERS will go to HELL atheists don't have that fear and so there BECOMING the most dangerous child-molesters, THIEVES and MURDERERS of them all!!!
Most of the INMATES in prisons are atheists SOME may find back their way to GOD and GOD may forgive them.
The OTHERS are damned and SATAN WILL FEAST ON THERE SOULS!!!!
ATHEISM IS DANGEROUS!!
[So stoning children who curse at their parents is completely moral, right?]
This term "curse" does not mean using profanity as it does today it means to actually place a curse on your parents by evil means. So yes, if someones child seeks to put an actual evil curse on their parents they should be stoned.
show me one scientific text that was written by God
Why do homosexuals lie and hide the truth?
Gay people are okay on a one to one basis I don't mind them at all. As a group they tend to be some of the biggest tricksters out there.
1. Most of them have alot of anonymous gay sex partners.
2. They engage in unprotected sex with lots of men anonymously.
3. They are spreading AIDS like wildfire in the US among themselves by behaving sexually irresponsible, see above.
4. When you see a gay person on television you never hear anything about the above. They are just sweet funny folks who happen to be hip to the scene and color coordinated.
Why can't there be honesty and openness about this instead of bashing people who question the wisdom of accepting this irresponsible behavior/lifestyle with labels like homophobic. Is what gays do in the bedroom so indefensible to themselves that they refuse to be open about discussing it?
Masturbation makes conjugal love cheap. It is addictive and drives marriages apart. It is almost impossible to do so without lusting, and lusting in an addicted manner causes a degraded sense of worth for the object of your affection... in conjunction with the act.
It is the first step toward relativism of various sexual relations and decreases the unitive force of the licit conjugal act.
Which in turn harms the family. And thus degrades society. Leading to divorce, abortion, and various other nefarious things.
It also appears to wash out the natural and fruitful initiative of the male spirit.
Any questions?
(If it's using symbolism and metaphor then it can't be literal. )
Sure it can. If you do not take the symbolism and metaphor literally, then you have no starting point for using the Word to give testimony to the Word.
makes sense - some of us in the thread don't accept the authority of scripture cause they are 'agnostic'.
if we do not accept scripture is accurate then the truth is we do not have to believe in sin, we can say the miracles of Jesus are a joke and never happened, and certainly the idea he rose from the dead can be discounted also.
I for one have no trouble with the earth being 8000 years old, nor man living alongside dinosaurs. Being a Christian does not equate with intellectual suicide.
Steve the Christian
Well this is something that i have delt with quite a few times in my life, i have seen it on many occasions and each time it happens i rely on god only, it is only his power that can drive out demons, iv come face to face with someone who was possesed, and i tell you its one of the worst things that someone who isnt used to it can see. My friend and i went to a friends house who was having some trouble and little did i know someone else tagged along, well my friends friends showed up and wouldnt leave then her personalitly changed all of a sudden, which is a clear sign of possesion. Well as well as taking care of what was in the house i had to exorcise my friends friend, you see i was showing my friend and training him, just as im being trained. Well in the end god drove the demon out of her after some threats and snarls and lets not forget the animal sounds my friends friend made. If you ever have an encounter like this just rely on god and he will protect you!!!!
God bless always
(After getting very badly owned regarding his "Dinosaurs are just gigantic lizards and scientists make random shit up" post, Brimac bravely forges ahead. Godspeed, little dude!)
Okay, this thread has gotten way of tract. First of all, a few clarifications:
1) Some people have misunderstood(probably my fault)what I meant about science. I do agree that much good has been done through science.
2) The reason why I am weary of the skeletal structures, is because archaelogists have been wrong before. For instance, they thought that the Neatherthal man was a step closer to the missing link, but was it was actually a man with rickets. Also, the parts which were found to place together the Java man skeleton were found quite some distance from each other, and unless grenades were common millions of years ago, that was a scam.
3) The reason why the rotated hips are not proof to me that dinos were not reptiles is that:
1) we cannot be 100% sure that the skeletons are correct
2) I do still believe that Micro-evolution is a fact, species do mutate and evolve within there own species
3) You know how when people get old, they get slouched over as an effect, how can we be sure that if a reptile grows large enough its bones might not become misformed or change position?
4) I do belive that some breeds have become extinct, just because we have not found a reptile to fit the form of each dino, does not mean that it never existed.
5) So much of the earth's oceans and rainforests are yet to be explored, there is no telling what will be found there!
I'm alot tougher than you'll ever be, and braver. I've collected dozens of death threats from Hells Angels and freemasons over the last 3 years, because of exposing them on the net. Hells Angels tv documentary shows a masonic award plaque on display as Barger freely admits tht the 1%ers are contract murderers. Barger called me twice, and I hung up on him twice.
My doors are barricaded and windows boarded since long before then. I've had robbers try to smash down my door unsuccessfully, and I once saved a woman abducted and held for ransom. Multiple attempts on my life have failed in the past. Ephesians 6:16.
Long ago, I interstate smuggled marijuana for Hells Angels, and I've sold for the mafia also. Freemason Mazzini founded the Italian mafia, which is the P2 Lodge. I was trusted with tens of thousands of dollars at a time, because I'm a tough guy; tough enough to even oppose them. I walk the walk, and risked my life and freedom daily for many years.
Noticing that my life has been saved by supernatural means multiple times made me more religious as I went. Now I'm retired from the biz, and very religious. But I've never been a wimp. I'm perhaps too militant, but the Bible has a militant side also.
My training came from a master sgt who was sent by CIA to various nations to steal the best moves from the best experts of the Shaolin temple and Japan, a savate expert in France, and other styles. He trained prospective Green Berets, qualifying them as experts in hand to hand combat in 6 months. I had private lessons for over 2 years until his cancer killed him.
None have ever succeeded in robbing me in my former career as a pro outlaw. What action have you seen? I've seen lots of action.
The permafrost in Siberia has been a source of mammoth meat for centuries, thousands were buried fast (the climatre wasn't cold then either), and they've even found frozen T-Rex meat with the blood still in it. I heard a story that this was served to evolutionists and when they were told what it was it gave them something to chew on, intelectually I mean!
Adam & Eve came first, 6000 yrs ago.
The flood buried dinosaurs 4 & a bit thousand years ago, then after the confusion at the Tower of Babel 100 yrs later people were scattered and became impoverished in their knowledge, lost technology and had to adapt to new environments from scratch. This would explain who many lived in caves.
Tenka,
Acts 19:11-12
11 And God wrought special miracles by the hands of Paul:
12 So that from his body were brought unto the sick handkerchiefs or aprons, and the diseases departed from them, and the evil spirits went out of them.
My wife and I couldn't give a child a handkerchief so we gave her a lollipop that we prayed over instead.
She got delivered. God works in mysterious ways.
There is a wiccan at my job...
She talks about doing astral projection and tarot card readings. I am praying for her, but I am afraid she may already be possessed by demons.
God had made Adam first and made all the best detailed creation/making for a man..
Aftewards, He created and made Eve, the best detailed creation/making for a woman.
In another words, they are both important to God.
But in responsibility, Adam was created first to be responsible for everything and be a husband.
Eve was created later to submit to her husband.
Dinosaurs never went extinct!
When God first created the Earth, Adam and Eve were meant to be immortal, but because of sin, they began to have a life span. The life span which became normal at that time was about 900 years. However, as sin increased even more, the human life span decreased, because God allowed certain enviromental changes to occur which shortened the life span. For instance, the magnetic field decreased, allowing parasites which had once been incapable of entering the body to do so. Eventually, the human life span had been decreased to about 70 years. Well, enviromental changes which effect humans also effect reptiles as well as other animals. And, reptiles grow as long as they are alive. A komodo dragon can live about 70 years and grow to be about 7 feet long. If the human life span decreased from 900 to 70 years, that is a decrease of 13 times. If a komodo dragon has experienced that same effect upon its life span, it would have been about 91 feet long back when humans lived for 900+ years, since it would have continued to grow for its whole lifespan. What do you call a 91 foot lizard? A dinosaur!!!
[The term "fundamentalist" was hijacked by Pat Robertson and his ilk to refer to those who favor literally interpreting the Bible (while ignoring the inherent contradictions involved by doing so) and who try to make Christianity into a legalistic, instead of a loving, religion.]
Anyone who believes that there are contradictions in a literal interpretation of the Bible believes so only because they don't know the Bible.
[We need to return to real fundamentalism -- focusing on the fundamentals of Jesus' message of love for one another, helping the poor, etc.]
Actually, that wasn't the fundamentals of Jesus' message. In fact, it was really a peripheral issue.
The fundamentals of Jesus' message were:
1. Mankind is sinful
2. Jesus came to seek and to save that which is lost
3. Jesus is our sacrifice for sin
4. We must repent of our sin and be born again
What you're talking about is the Social Gospel, not the Biblical Gospel.
You didn't prove anything, all you showed is that your emotions come with ethics...which is illogical and unbiblical. The only rational system is the traditional christian system which perfectly explains ethics.
9-11 was an inside job, and you in America are about to loose your constitution. These occult monsters are planning to ignite a nuclear device, and that is all they will need to hord up all the people into the new internment camps that FEMA has been building without your knowledge, and give the president dictatorial powers they just enacted in congress. Oh yes they did. But it would be easier if you just returned to placing your head into the sand where it came from. It is much easier than dealing with the truth.
Adolf Hitler is was a member of the Illuminati, a part of the group the Thule Society, and wasn't a strict adheranent to Christianity. History is written by the victors, and the victors of that war was the Illuminati, who got to write a whole bunch of text books claiming he was a Christian, because he must have gone to church once and a while, and quoted Scripture.
Wouldn't the world be better if we adopted the Old Testament model and tried and executed the cheating spouse? That way the children would have the benefit of the good parent as a role model. And there would be a powerful deterrent effect on sin and immorality.
[If this happened to you (God came to you and told you to find a homosexual and kill him), what would you do?]
While I find it hard to imagine that scenario you describe would happen, if it were confirmed through prayer, then for one to be obedient to God, one would have to be prepared to act.
I had a rather interesting thought today, atleast interesting to me. God shortened our lives by many many years, as we now are usually in a low percentile to live to 100 years of age. It amazed me to think of how many children our 'mothers' had when they lived for hundreds of years, especially if only waiting a year and a half or 2 years between each child like some are doing today (until they feel they have enough kids!) If we still lived that long, the last days would have had to been sometime ago in considering how many more people there would be on the earth! The sin rate/level would have already been worse than in Noah's day. The world would have already had to have been destroyed!
Praise God for His plan and the awesome little parts of it that we don't even think about!
Happy Friday the 13th
What a really interesting title for a forum topic? Isn't Friday the 13th suppose to be unlucky. How can we be happy on such an unlucky day.
Why is Friday the 13th unlucky? Well I got the answer to that.
http://www.freedomdomain.com/freemason.html
http://www.trinicenter.com/kwame/2001/Jul/20010714.htm
http://www.bilderberg.org/masons.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knights_Templar_legends
Way back in 1303, on a Friday the 13th, the church slaughtered a bunch of Bapthomet worshipping Knights Templar, trying to free the world from the corruption of devil worshipping. Since then, Friday the 13th has been considered unlucky. Unlucky by whom, Free Masons! Who cares about what a bunch of luciferian worshipping occultists consider is unlucky.
So, be happy. Friday the 13th is only unlucky to a bunch of occultists, because they got judged by God's people! Praise God!
Glory to God and Power to the Resistance.
I'm new here. Im 20 years old,and well i have a pretty disturbing question. Im a straight christian male,but yesterday my roomate who is also christian used my computer and found i had been looking at gay porn. I have no desire at all to date a guy or have relationship or whatever. Growing up during my teen years i had no christian guy friends my age,between 15-19. During those hard years,i got into gay porn,most likely i guess because i had no real relationships w/ guys during that time. Now my christian roomate is like freaked out because he caught me. I actually stopped doing it when i become friends with this guy. But it just popped up recently again,i tried to explain to him that im not attracted to guys. Its a mess,our friendship last few weeks has been growing and been so good. He said that it shouldnt get in way of friendship
The "laws" of this country were founded on the Bible. That is what made America what America is in any sense. The commandments from the Word of the one who inspired these 10 commandments saying that "Thou shalt have no other gods before Me" is against the very foundation of this country. God gave us the BIble, we used it to establish our laws, so why should we not be able to use that same principle to say that this country should stay committed and devoted to the one true God?
First of all, most of the children starving/dying in poor countries are not Christian. Secondly it is Christian values, not unbaptized children that we are talking about here.
Jessica
Sir, if there were zero evidence to contradict the theory of global warming, it would not be a theory, it would be a law. Absolutist statements like this are one of the key reasons I am comfortable keeping my skepticism.
Reproduction doesn't occur with two men ONLY proves that it's NOT MEANT TO BE.
If you tried to copulate with a giraffe, it wouldn't work would it? It's not normal, you won't get it pregnant, because of chromosomal problems, nature's way of saying "this isn't right"
If everyone turned gay...considering being gay is not a problem, if everyone did turn gay what would happen to the species? And no one wanted to mate with the opposite sex to procreate, keeping in mind this is a nature point of view. Then is it still not a problem?
Bah, I don't have time to argue this. I rest my case. It's not normal, I win. K? Thanks
Where evidence disagrees with the Bible --- evidence is wrong.
Urinal scenes in movies, pregnant/abortion barbie dolls, rainbow flags, and evolution are all exactly the kind of filth that myself and other concerned Christian moms are working hard to abolish.
[You really should move to England... or maybe India. I bet you'd love to be born into a class system where you can't ever move out of what you've been born into. Gipper the untouchable. That seems about right. Or maybe a toadie in England following some Lord around. Watching him stumble home drunk while you get tossed in jail for crossing the street in the wrong place. It's wonderful to talk so arrogantly until you're the one on the wrong side of that argument. Maybe we should just take those folks that can't remember "I" before "E" except after "C" and make them clean toilets all day.
Why is it those who proclaim themselves to be the most Christian always display the least Christian values?]
You have nothing to add to the conversation so you choose to berape me? How mature. Obviously you cannot argue that there are just some people who do not deserve equal rights.
[I fail to see the significance. I'm not an atheist.]
O... you are a theist? Come on now... There is a god, there is not a god... if you want to say there are many gods, does that make you a subset of theism or atheism?
Of course, you can not claim either, can you? That is because there can not be many gods. It is an illogical and insupportable thesis.
A pantheist... like that is a real designation... is a euphemism for atheist and hedonist.
There isn't a nickel's worth of difference between an atheist and pantheist.
I am outraged at the perversion in threads!
You have a complete section on this site dedicated to the homosexual agenda and I am interested in seeing one for sadomasicistic sexual preferrence, for the liberty of pedophelia and for necrophelia.
Now that I have your attention, why does this section homeosexual forum exist?
Why do you not have a sub-forum for the ministry of getting out of homosexual lifestyle.
Why are their open forums for minors to see regarding topics of sexual preferrence?
I have been quite patient on viewing the open and extremely liberal forums you have hear on this site, and I am still searching for a reproof in these threads that are so explicit in nature that they are vulgar and rude.
Has the Christian Community in this site played right into the hands of Satan himself by turning a blind eye to the liberal perversions of the world?
I see no stand on any subject that has to do with sex and the "broad subject matter' when it is being discussed.
What is your biblical stand in letting such subjects be the topics people want to talk about in here?
SIN IS SIN__REPENT_OR GO TO HELL. Is there a problem with this statement? There shoulnt be if you are true believer of the Holy Bible.
Barrier methods can be Very effective, if you're consistant. FAM or NFP can be Very effective, if you stay on top of it. Above all though, know that G-d is in control of your fertility and if He chooses to bless you with a baby sometime in the future, He will. If you've had the full number of babies He wants you to have, then you won't get pregnant again no matter what method you choose.
Your hate for Christianity is so shamlessly lucid, it makes me want to chew on glass...
WE-ARE-TALKING-ABOUT-2007
A horrible argument is, disputing that modern Christian extremism is even on the same LEVEL as modern Islamic extremism.
WAKE UP!
You know what, if I ever had a son and he turned out to be gay, or Athiest or even a MUREDERER. I would still love him, I would not disown him, but if he became a liberal, he wouldn't exsist to me! I'm so sick and tired of MSNBC, of Congress, of college campuses, of the ACLU ect.
Go away!
God, that felt good...
When you feel a presence like that, then something has been brought into the house that is not of God, our Lord Jesus Christ.
So, you had your pastor come out and pray over your house and things were alright, and then you read VAMPIRE books, and then things are bad.
Burn your vampire books, and get your pastor back.
["Okay, I'm burning those books if not discarding them in other ways... Thanks for your help everybody!"]
My dear sister, you missed the point---BURN THEM. Don't pass them onto anyone else, such as discarding them. BURN THEM!
I know God word is true. I have animals and pets who live longer or shorter. And the weather yes it is a stormy summer but not severe like the elevolutionists says. God is working. Someimes it is hard to see him at work but God is always in control.
[Responding to: We don't claim that thinking occurs in the heart.]
The Bible does - that settles it.
[Being abandoned to the lusts of your flesh is Hell on Earth]
When you can not trust your thoughts, it is witchcraft that is working on you. Jesus can give you the victory.
When the wrong thought crosses your mind, just say to yourself "this is witchcraft." Etch that into you memory. The Holy Spirit will hear your plea and send the evil thought running. Stand firm behind your convictions and you will receive the confidence you need.
My IQ was 144 last time I had it checked.
What we will examine right now, is behomoth. In job it says that behomoth ate from cedars. What is remarkable, is that cedars are more then 100 feets tall, showing that behomoth cannot be a creture known to science, exept some few dinosours species.
Laviathan is another animal, a reptile, unknown to man. and tannin too.
What are these creatures? Remeber that all other creatures mentioned in the bible exists to day. there are no fictional animals mantioned in the bible. why change it from there. moreover the evidence is clear, the mysterious creature behomoth ate from real and not fictional trees - cedars.
The bible describes an animal, that has existed, that can eat from a tree more then 30 meters tall.
Which animal was that?
It is easy to be changed from gay to straight and vice versa. Of course it's easy to go from straight to gay, that's why the homosexual agenda is such a threat to society. And I know personally that a gay person can become straight, because my brother used to be gay. But with the help of ex-gay ministry he changed, and is married and has three children.
It's God's desire that we get married and procreate. Child-less couples are not living as God intented and lare living for themselves. It's selfishness.
[So would you have your country turned into a theocracy?]
That's how someone like you would see it, I'm sure. I just want what America was intended to be, a Country of Christian, based of Christianity and Christian values and a country for Christians to worship Christ and live in harmony.
We used to have that until the secular-progressive agenda was born from the absent-minded potheads of the 60's.
[What do you think about all the Non-Christians in your country and their rights?]
They have to right to live and think what they want, but in the presence of society, they should behave as Christians, and respect our morals even if they don't want to abide by them. They can keep their sin and perversion in their own houses.
Nowhere is artificial birth control permitted in scripture, absolutely right IAA. .
The ONE CLEAR ATTEMPT at artificial birth control was met with DEATH at God's hand.
No postive statements regarding artificial brith control in support of it in the scriptures - - NOT ONE!
One VERY NEGATIVE statement AGAINST artificial birth control by God Himself.
There's nothing wrong with forcing non-Christians to live like Christians. We Christians are the ones who have something to offer non-Christians -- not the other way around.
In Saudi Arabia and Iran, everybody is required to live as a Muslim. I see no reason why we shouldn't do the same thing in America, which is a Christian nation established by Christians, for Christians. As a Christian nation, we can (and should ) require everybody to live as a Christian -- or at least offer a higher class of citizenship to Christians. People who do not want to abide by established Christian beliefs and norms are free to live elsewhere.
[Would you vote for an atheist to be president?]
No, I wouldn't vote for an atheist. You guys tend to be very angry, and you're rather whiny as well. I don't want to elect somebody who's angry at God, whines about it all the time, and who worships science.
Macro-evolution backs up Satan and all of his followers including those angels of darkness who profess to be followers of God while worshiping Satan. There are supposed Christian religions who are actually more dangerous because while they hide their true allegiance, at least the atheist is not trying to hide the fact of his beliefs.