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Calypsis4 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

So live in denial. The fact is that Criss Angel made a blood pact with the devil in order to gain the power to do such things. It's in his own autobiography & when I can locate that quote in my files I will bring it out. As far as O'Neal and what happened to him: he was hypnotized before going over the house. You missed that. But he saw the recording.Furthermore, you did not explain in the slightest as to how Criss Angel managed to pull this off in any physical or illusionary matter. That's because you can't. It was supernatural and we have personally seen it before more than once. I counseled a seriously demonized woman who levitated all of her body off the floor(at a 35 degree angle) except the tips of her toes after being knocked out cold by a force we could not see. Don't even try to tell me such things don't exist. The woman was only two feet in front of me when this happened to her and I have witnesses that saw it with me. These things exist in line with what the Bible says about the supernatural and it is all related to what God told us in His Word.

Springer #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Furthermore, outrageous claims cannot be disproven. The theory of evolution is non-falsifiable. Every single obstacle encountered, regardless of how insurmountable, is swept under the rug with the excuse that "someday further research will explain these minor details." Evolution has proclaimed itself to be a fact because it has discarded the only competing theory... intelligent design.

Cassiterides #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Regarding some scientific evidence against the speed of light, from what i remember when i studied science a while back i was told that light can not travel through a vaccum (as sound cant). Therefore i have no idea why people believe starlight travels through space. Astronomers knew this for many years which is why they were searching for some kind of aether.

92g #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

1) I would guess that ~50 times more people have been killed in the name of no God with Darwinism as its system of origins in the last 100 or so years than all of what have been killed in the name of God, rightly or wrongly, in the entirety of human history.

2) Most of the killing done in the name of religion was Satanic.

3) Christianity is not a religion, its a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I don't like religion either, Godless religions such as yours, or false religions, especially false Chrisitianity.

Fred Williams #homophobia evolutionfairytale.com

[No, I asked if you would prefer your son/daughter to be executed than be homosexual. Would you?]

I would only want my son executed if he chose to be a homo in a society with an effective capital deterrent already in place. That way at least scores of other kids would be saved. But you refuse to grant the point, there is no evidence you will ever accept that homosexuality is a destructive, deadly, evil lifestyle.

Cassiterides #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

[But I agree with you about television. It is predominately pro evolution]

It is, however no single theory is ever put forward. Evolutionists are at war with themselves more than with creationists, for example i recently watched about 5 minutes of an evolution doctumentary about the origins of man, the clip showed one scientist arguing with another (quite strongly and harshly) over the Out Of Africa hypothesis Vs. the Multi-regional hypothesis. Both scientists were evolutionists but were calling each other ''wrong''.

The theory of evolution just seems to be in a great mess, evolutionists themselves can't even agree.

Cassiterides #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

If you believe that light travels that means you start at the assumption of the intromission theory.

Starting at assumptions is not scientific.

And saying Einsteins theories are empirical is ignorant.

A theory = something not proven scientifically.

Definition of theory:

An assumption based on information or knowledge; a conjecture.

If that's what you think science is, then no wonder you believe in evolution.

Calypsis4 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Below is Criss Angel who levitates former NBA basketball star Shaquille O'Neal over his house in front of a few dozen fans.

If there was a helicopter lifting him it would have been seen and heard by all including the camera recording. If it was a crane it likewise would have been easily seen by all. The truth is that Criss Angel is using demonic power and I can prove that he made a pact with the devil in order to do some of his most outstanding 'tricks'. More later.

Joshua #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

The current model of Evolution is false because of its hocus pocus mechanisms. Early I read a thread in reference to bones and how non-boned organisms could develop into boned organisms through RM+NS [random mutation + natural selection]. The question was simple, what on a non-boned organism could be modified to become a bone therefore demonstrating common ancestry – descent with modification ?

I postulated this question to a pro-evolutionist and to my amazement I received the following answer, “it just happened”. Hardly scientific.

scott #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

No creation myth should be taught. Only the true 6 day Creation none myth of the Bible should be taught.

Anyways all this whining and complaining about what should and shouldn't be taught is complete Nonesense. I learned more about Christianity in College than I ever did in Public Schools. Nobody had any problem whatsoever when we had discussions about Creation or Christianity. Quite frankly it doesn't matter if it is taught. The only people getting upset about it are the Die-hard Atheist/ Evolutionist.

Fred Williams #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

I disagree with the premise of the geologic column, since there is no evidence for it (it only exists in the text books). Mt St Helens was your death knell, since even some unbelieving geologist scientists admit 90% of all geology was overturned by that event. Now you even have a growing number of evos who admit the evidence for the Grand Canyon supports the theory that it was carved out rapidly by a water breech. So much for the “geologic column” existing there!

scott #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

It never hurts to pray, actually that could be the best thing you can do. I think the problem with h*m*sexuals thinking that they can't be saved, is because they are too succeptible to that sin.

Also, I think many might be too ashamed to admit that they were h*mosexual even if they did repent; therefore, they would rather live in sin, than be ashamed for what they have committed.

Converting from homo to hetero can have lasting social consequences, and I believe this is the main reason so many choose not to change.

ikester7579 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

When adding evolution to God's creation, there are some things that need to be considered.

1) If evolution goes so well with God, why did Darwin have to recant his faith in order to write his theory? Can we do something the originator of evolution could not?

2) If evolution goes so well with God, then it should be used to bring people closer to God. And there should not be people losing their faith due to believing it.

3) Evolution should be used as a salvation tool, if it works so well with God. The preaching of it alone should draw people to the front of the church to get saved. But is this what we see?

4) Evolutionists argue that evolution is not a religion. But yet will accept someone who mixes both as one of their own. And will defend them in debates as well. Can a non-religous subject be combined with a religous one and work without turning the non-religous one into religion?

5) Evolution and God working together should not promote God hate sites like FSTDT.com

lionheart209 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Some evolutionists ask you to define a KIND, heres a classic answer.

A wolf, a fox and a coyote and a chicken all stand side by side, see if you can point out the one that is not of that KIND.

If you use the bibles teachings and cross examine them with todays scientific facts/operational science, you'll see that science supports the bible.

jcrawford #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

I'm classifying myself and others like me as Neanderthal descendents rather than Homo sapiens, since I am Caucasian and not of African origins or descent, as neo-Darwinists claim Homo sapiens are.

Neo-Darwinists associate Homo sapiens with African monkey and ape ancestors. I associate myself and others like me with the Neanderthal descendents of Noah in order to be included in Christ's own ancestral genealogy.

ikester7579 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Also, the Bible says that the rain and water from underground continued for 40 days and nights. Now imagine sediments continually being added to the water for 40 days and nights.

1) You have the sediments continually making layers for this time period.
2) And you have hydrologic sorting of the animals when they died.

In case you are not sure what hydrologic sorting is. Ponder this question. If you drop a mouse and a elephant in the ocean, which would reach the bottom first? You would normally think the elephant would because of it's weight, right? But there are several factors that determine the out come.

1) Weight.
2) Bouncy.
3) Size. More water has to move around a big animal, which would slow up the process of getting to the bottom.
4) If said animal floats, how long until it starts to sink after death?

The other factor to hydrolic sorting, and how the sediments worked for the flood. Is that bottom dwellers would end up covered first along with any life that happened to be down there when this happened. And because they would not have been dead yet. A lot of the fossil record would have shown this.

Al650 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

I strongly suggest that all Atheists leave this site. Why? It is clear that they are not here to inform or educate. Their only purpose is to intimidate by name calling, appeals to emotion and insistence. As self-appointed defenders of all science, they persist daily to indoctrinate. To repeat the same tired phrases that are used and reused all over the internet. This is not a search or defense of scientific facts but a campaign of attempted indoctrination.

Atheists: Is any current scientific research affected by the beliefs of Creationists? If your theory is incontrovertibly correct, why assail Creationists? What do you have to be concerned about? For you, evolution is a fact and no one can say different.


God bless,
Al

goldliger #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Logical proof of evidence for God and creation. (And a universe full of it.)

Question to atheist # 1: If the statement is true, "God created the genetic code and DNA to create life", would the genetic code and DNA be evidence for God? ...If your answer is "no", how and why would it NOT be valid evidence of God (while noting that if God created the genetic code, nothing else did)?

(Hint: The answer to the above is "yes", because the genetic code and DNA as potential evidence for anything else would be 100% falsified, when we have objective proof that God is/was its author.)

Question to atheist # 2: Do you have 100% objective proof that God *didn't* create the genetic code and DNA to create life? If "yes", please provide your proof with zero speculative language.

(Hint: No such proof exists.)

Question to atheist # 3: Aside from the genetic code and DNA, can you name a SINGLE code (that meets the following definition), that was NOT designed by an intelligent being?

...Definition of CODE for our purposes above: Sequential, *meaningful* information is encoded (DNA) and decoded (RNA). Such as English. Binary code. Morse code. Etc.

Note that ALL evidence, either for "naturalism" or "creationism" is in a POTENTIAL state, until the objective proof is in, as to which "suspect" is responsible.

...This is why it's logically impossible to claim that we do NOT have a mountain of evidence for God and creation; this is why ALL OF CREATION is evidence for God.

Further, unless you can provide another example of a code that was NOT created by an intelligent being under the definition provided, we have 100% inference that the genetic code and DNA was created by an intelligent being. And 0% inference that it was a result of naturalistic, mindless, Godless causation.

Note that this is in NO WAY begging the question, or a circular argument, because we're assuming based on logic that *both* naturalism and creationism are theoretical possibilities. And that all of creation is evidence (in a required "potential" state), until the objective proof is in.

Thanks for reading.

Cassiterides #fundie evolutionfairytale.com


A scientist in 1899 claimed the diameter is only 32 miles, some of his points made are very interesting.

''The sun is always somewhere between the tropics of Cancer and Capricorn, a distance admitted to be less than 3,000 miles; how then can the sun if it be so many thousand miles in diameter, squeece itself into a space of about 3,000 miles only...can a camel ride on a mouse, or a whale rush down the throat of a herring?

What is the diameter of the sun?

32 miles. If the navigator neglects to apply the sun's semi-diameter to his observation at sea, he is 16 nautical miles (nearly) in calculating the position his ship is in. A minute of arc on the sextant represents a nautical mile, and if the semi-diameter be 16 miles, the diameter is of course 32 miles. And as measured by the sextant, the sun's diameter is 32 minutes of arc, that is 32 nautical miles in diameter. If ever dispoof is attempted, it will be a literary curiosity, well worth framing.''

[later in the same thread]


I asked how you know the distance to the sun. You are claiming it's not an estimate but that you know the precise figure. So have you traveled to the sun and back? My point was to clarify the distinction between fact and estimates (guesses).
I'm open minded and read different theories. Unless you go up into space yourself there is no way of proving the exact size of the sun or location of celestial objects. It appears you base all your faith in what NASA etc tell you without ever questioning anything. I thought atheists were meant to be 'skeptics'?

Fred Williams #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

It is a pet peeve of mine when evolutionists equivocate on what evolution is. They equivocate on the word evolution by claiming micro-evolution is “evolution”, then essentially declare victory. Then we get the usual strawman arguments to follow. I find this to be one of the most intellectually dishonest arguments going, and never intended this forum to tolerate this kind of blatant equivocation.

Bob Barclay #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

The problem lies in the fact that evolutionists believe they can make dead bones talk. When I read there religious jargon about the fossil record I just have to shake my head and say where is the science. An example of their religious explanation can be seen in their intermediate dud the fish-o-pod Tiktaalik. They describe the bones of the fossil while intermingaling their religious jargon and any story they want to tell just rolls out of the mouths. Since there is no way to verify or test these stories we are told it is evolutionary gospel truth. Building the story into something that it is not.

It is by far the most intolerant religion on the face of the earth today. If given control of the governments their religious intolerance rises to a deadly attack against any who dare speak against it. Examples in the twentieth century are vivid reminders of what the religion of evolution is capable of. Under the leadership of Stalin and Chairman Mao atheistic evolution was responsible for about 100 million deaths of those who did not agree with them. This is not including all the atheistic evolutionists governments this is just two of them.

The Deacon #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

It [stem-cell research] is the culture of death. The secular humanist left is only interested in maintaining the right to murder babies. Anything that seems to help their cause is acceptable to them because there is no fear of God before their eyes.

xdisciplex #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

I also don't really understand it. I guess people only pay so much attention to these theories because they assume that those scientists which come up with them know what they do.
What I noticed is that many atheists, I don't know if this is one of their tactics, are trying to make it look like evolutionists are simply too dumb to really understand the evolutionary theory and this is the reason why they think it's silly.

CTD #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

The speed of light in a perfect vacuum cannot be measured without first obtaining a perfect vacuum. Light has been measured traveling at many different speeds, some of them far in excess of the "textbook" rate.

92g #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Fossilzed T-rex's may appear to be carnivore's, but they were fossilzed during the flood.

That doesn't disprove the possiblity that they ate a vegitarian diet before the fall, and changed between that time.

The flood being the prmiary cause of the fossils we find is also why you would never to expect to find any of them fossilzed before they changed, if they changed.

Its also possible that they they ate a vegitarian diet. You don't know enough about T-rex's to claim much about them at all, except that they were very big, and had a nice set of teeth.

Springer #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Evolution is a religion because it is based on ideology, not science. It assumes the non-existence of intelligent design. Evolutionists will readily concede that intelligent design is not falsifiable, so they arbitrarily falsify it not through science, but through belief They proclaim that evoluiton is a fact of nature by eliminating the only competing theory, intelligent design. If they cannot disprove ID, then why do they assume it doesn't exist? The answer is because they're not interested in truth... only in proving themselves correct.

(emphasis original)

Ron #homophobia evolutionfairytale.com

I think it is important to note that there is absolutely nothing that being gay adds to society. Homosexuality and lesbianism has absolutely no positive affect on any society in which you find such activity.

You may attempt to say; “but there are many homosexuals and lesbians that have added greatly to society in the areas of art, science, and humanitarian pursuits (etc—) and I'd agree, BUT this isn’t BECAUSE they were homosexuals or lesbians, rather because they were PEOPLE.

In fact, the act that gives homosexuals and lesbians their title doesn’t even add to society; rather, it stunts society. The sexual proclivities that drive homosexuals and lesbians, does not, and cannot ever, result in procreation. In fact, in order for the homosexuals and lesbians to procreate, they must act (hypocritically) against that which they call their “nature”. But, biologically, their sexual proclivities act anathema to biological nature.

Another thing to ponder, is this: I will be called a “bigot” for making the above statements (which begs further questions because the definition for "bigot" relates to race not sexual prefrence), or I will be labeled “intolerant” for making the above statements (which begs further questions such as "isn't the hetreophobe being "intolerant" of my opinions?). But when one comes to the crux of the matter, all I have done is stated facts—.

Fred Williams #fundie #homophobia evolutionfairytale.com

I've been wanting to chime in on this. For starters, though I can't speak for TeeJay I doubt he "wants to execute homosexuals". Instead, he wants it to be a capital offense, there's a big difference. As a capital offense, you would have very few homosexuals to execute, as is shown in countries that have this law. Anyone with any shred of compassion would not want their son or daughter to grow up and decide (yes *decide*, as twin studies have proven) to be a homosexual since their life expectancy will dramatically shrink. In the case of men their life expectancy rivals that of a heroin addict. The homosexual murder rate, suicide rate, sexual disease rate, and drug use rate is dramatically higher than the normal population. The problem is, atheists and unfortunately many Christians fall into the role of Job's friends and question the logic of God, often times without really taking the time to understand the big picture. Instead, they think of the friend or family member they know who is a homosexual and couldn't fathom having the guy or gal executed. But wouldn't it be better if they weren't a homosexual in the first place? Why would anyone want to wish such a depressing and short-lived life on someone? I support homosexuality as a capital offense because God is smarter than I am and He knows it will save tons of lives and make people happier, not "gayer". It would keep the Sandusky's of the world away from kids who themselves (as studies show) because of the encounter become more susceptible to that lifestyle later in life. I, and I suspect TeeJay, supports it because we love the person enough to compel them to live a good, long life, instead of showing them "luv" while we walk them right over the cliff.

Dig4gold #fundie #dunning-kruger evolutionfairytale.com

You could put a healthy living frog in a blender and blend it up then take the compound and wait and wait and wait but no life will spontaneously arise from it even though it started as a living entity. Even though you began with all of the components of life you would not observe life spontaneously arising from this mixture. Why? Because life only comes from life.

Fred Williams #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

[How to spot an evo-babbler, emphasis original]

3) Claims you are quoting evolutionists out of context. An all time Talk.Origins classic! 90% probability!

2) Asks you to quote from the proper scientific literature (i.e only pro-evolution literature). This brings a solid 90% probability you have a genuine evo-babbler on your hands!

1) And the number one sure sign – cites articles from the Talk.Origins repository, where you will be fortunate to find 1 scholarly article out of every 50. If done just once, it still registers in at an impressive 80% accuracy! If they list more than one reference to Talk.Origins in the same post, you have a dead-ringer at 99.98% probability!

Dave #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

[How science would be taught in a Fundie's ideal world]

1. In a typical day's one-hour science class session, about 45 minutes would be spent studying science, operational science, which is basically the science that most scientists agree about, whether they are Bible-believing scientists or materialistic-only scientists.

2. Then, about 12 minutes would be spent teaching origins science. The materialistic-only theories would be dismissed for a lack of objective evidence, and students would learn the wonderful truth of how the world has come to be the way it is today following creation, Adam and Eve, the flood, etc.

3. Then, the last three minutes would be spent reviewing Darwin's and the Neo's theories of evolution along with other myths of origins, like Greek mythology, American Indian legends and such as that. These wouldn't be taught for their education value, but as a warning to children that when they step away from objective reality, they open themselves up to becoming vulnerable to all kinds of kooky ideas.

Critical Science Failure

Anyone else think Super Sport had a kid?

Cassiterides #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Gravity is a theory, not a proven fact.

The effects of gravity can be explained by other theories. An example would be the acceleration theory which asserts the earth is actually moving 'upward' at a constant rate of 1g (9.8m/sec^2). This produces the same effect as "gravity".

See there are different theories for the same phenomena - and none are facts, they are just theories.

The Return of Eye Beams!

Pew! Pew! Pew!

Cassiterides #fundie #crackpot evolutionfairytale.com

In a thread regarding astrophysics, distance and star light

Here is a question you.

So a light year = the distance light travels in a year.

You mentioned the figure 11 million light years away.

So my question is how are we observing this light 11 million light years away now?

I'm not 11 million years old, i'm 20.

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Later on he goes on to say...

If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth, how can i see it now? I'm only 20.

If it takes 11 million years to travel to earth then the viewer would need to be 11 million years old.

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And it continues with...

I don't believe light travels at all, i've looked at various models and worked on many but none of it works. The basics of visual perception is often overlooked. When we look at something what is actually going on? The emission theory states that the light emits (not a travelling speed) from our own eyes not from the object we look at. The intromission theory states the opposite.

The emission theory is the most common sense, so i don't believe there is any speed of light. The 'Starlight Problem' has never been a problem for me and the YEC model. The earliest Church Fathers (2nd-4th century AD) who believed in emmision theory also had no problem with starlight and a young universe.

Admin3 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Several religions are adopting the views of science. How can a non-religious thing become part of a religion?

Also, if those who are at the head of scientific things were remotely worried about science becoming a religion, they would not allow the mixing of the two. But I have yet to hear anyone complain in any written form to any religion that has done this. Which tells me that science, through evolution, wants to become as powerful as any religion.

When are you guys gonna wake up? What quacks like a duck, looks like a duck, is a duck. Or did science 101 teach you that? Because denying what is happening right in front of your eyes, is only denying what the truth of the situation is. For I challenge anyone to come up with a recent written letter by those who would control science and it's direction. Where they denied a religion from adapting to it's views of origins that science currently has.

John Paul #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

No one says that the design had to be perfect or that even if it started out “perfect” that it had to remain that way. Some critics will point out what they perceive as faulty body parts, that a real intelligent designer would have designed something better. But in the real world we see design compromises all the time and we also see design mess ups. History is littered with intelligently designed things that didn’t work and/ or were dubbed “engineering blunders”. So what? That is why we use the term intelligent design.

disruptor #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

HIV does not, in fact, exist. The so-called human immunodeficiency virus, HIV, is only an "externalization", to absolve the AIDS patient of responsibility for his/her disease.

Anyone doubting this should consider that HIV has never even been isolated. This simple and amazing fact in itself should make everyone suspicious about the entire AIDS industry.

When someone "tests positive" for HIV, they actually test positive for reverse transcriptase enzyme activity which is assumed to indicate the presence of HIV in the patient. There is in fact a total lack of evidence for the existence of HIV.

At the time, everyone was in a mad rush to find the "cause" of AIDS. Those who came up with something first would be assured of endless research funds, fame etc. The h*mosexual lobby seized on the first announcement to claim a viral cause, since then it would no longer be their own fault. It's always easier to blame a "virus" than one's own misbehavior.

Ikester7579 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

[Understood.
At Adam and Eve, the first humans with souls. Around the time when He put them in the garden.
At the fall when Adam and Eve disobeyed God.]

So Adam and Eve were the first man and woman in the "evolution" process? Can you back that up in scripture?

Also, why was this not included in Darwin's book? He was a Christian at one time. So why would he leave this out?

Added: So here I show that not only does the bible not support this. But Darwin's book does not support this.

disruptor #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

The concepts "old" or "young" have no real meaning when applied to periods before human language. We can talk about the Earth as "billions of years old" (and the concept may even be helpful in furthering our understanding of the Earth), but this has as little meaning as "the square root of minus 1" (which still has its uses in mathematics) or as "a unicorn's horn" (which has its mythological uses). The existence of a word for a thing - even for a useful thing - is no proof for the existence of that same thing.

The Earth therefore cannot be "older" than the age of human language in which the concept "old" first appeared. "Old" or "young" mean nothing without a human to express them. Nor do the words "God", "Earth" or any other word.

So phrases such as OLD or YOUNG EARTH only start to mean something when human speech first appears. The words that allow us to speak of the Earth and its age mark the beginning:

John 1:1 In the beginning was the WORD.

The Earth is therefore YOUNG, probably no older than the last Ice Age, since human speech began round about that time

Scott #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

What is valid about the Big Bang??? I see nothing valid to it. Where is the evidence??? The Big Bang would be a little bit more convincing if it actually had more than just evidence based on how light enters the telescope, but fortunately it doesn't have anymore evidence than this.

ikester7579 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

[I've searched and searched and I can't find any evidence that Haeckel was ever put on trial for fraud [for his embryonic drawings]]

This is great. Evolutionist-atheist are denying this by omitting it from their websites. I can only find it listed on creationists websites which proves the point I made earlier about with holding information as a form of deception, or lies.

So it never happend eh?

So what's next? Omit the holocaust? There are already several atheist websites saying it never hapened. People believe what they want, and you can believe that Haeckel was never put on trial by his university. Makes no difference to me.

ikester7579 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

Side note: I have one suggestion on word usage. Illumination is what Satan does. Bringing into the light is what God does. Hence why the illuminati is called what it is. Studying black magic and witchcraft, I came to figure this out.

Note: I studied this so I knew as a Christain what I was up against when I met someone who believed this.

Cassiterides #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

[After being informed that the red squirrel dying out and being replaced by the grey squirrel due to disease is a form of natural selection.]

The red squirrel is dying because the grey is spreading a disease. This is what happens when things mix. This has nothing to do with 'natural selection'.

The Bible says God created everything within a specific boundary and designated it an area. The greys are not native and have broken out of their indigeous habitat and are killing off the red squirrels.

I don't think you understand the term 'natural selection'.

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"[D]isease is an environmental factor. It is a form of natural selection in the same way that predation is: those who are affected do not pass on their genes, while those who avoid it (because of a behavioural, physiological, or geographical reason) do."

Only evolutionists believe disease is an environmental factor. The root of disease in the Bible is sin or faulty thinking or doing. Again this is the case where we have polar opposite beliefs on an issue.

Origen #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

To build a bridge between science and faith is to question whether or not the United States has gone into communism and abandoned freedom of religion and speech in America? Has evolution become the State religion?
Being a former heavy metal vocalist (yeah--I took a piss) I can testify that the music Industry has fashioned evolution AND the occult has normalcy in the form of ritual Darwinism. Most of all the songs today in the Hard Rock world combine the occult and evolution in their lyrics. The Industry are some of the worst Special Interest groups out there on a limb. Their influence has grown into a ginormous following of Devil Worshipping Darwiniacs. I mean this is serious occult and capable of brainwashing a multitude into the NewAge Occult. And all this is done first in politics, for the purpose of legalizing drugs and destroying the right for the Church to remain on State property. Christian metal (or co-called) today is usually owned by secular labels which water down the lyrics and eventually ruin the Christian bands with drugs and idolatry. Music is the biggest form of expression and today's youth can only hear what their peers hear and thats occultic evolution (i.e., theistic evolution; the same mystic faith of Hitler believe it or not. Consider this: The Jesus of Dan Brown is the same Jesus of Hitler! As Jesus would say, "he who has an ear better listen!").

Admin3 #fundie evolutionfairytale.com

So Charles Lyell's Principles of Geology book changed Darwin's mind from creation to evolution. Charles Lyell was a known atheist who hated the creation story, and hated God. His book has these overtones written all through it. If Darwin would not have taken this book along on that voyage, he may never have come up with the idea of evolution. [...]

This is a perfect example of what has to happen to someone to believe in evolution. It takes you to lose your faith, if your a Christian. Even back from it's very beginning, where Darwin had to give up his own faith just to ponder the idea, and then write his book on it. And if you have never been a Christian, evolution requires you to take a stance against a God and His creation. Even though it is claimed that creation is not science, but a mere religion. So was fighting a mere religion taught in science 101? Or is the truth about science, and it's pet theory evolution, finally coming to light as a religion?