scientists would know about it

ShockJock #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

European Weather Satellite Accidentally Shows Earth has CHANGED SHAPE, from circular to almost egg-shaped. Explains weather changes/earthquakes

When former Secretary of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, gave her farewell speech several years ago, she made clear her successor would face "a natural disaster the likes of which we've never dealt with before." Despite being questioned about this several times later, Ms. Napolitano never clarified what she meant.

It appears we have now been (accidentally) shown exactly what this "natural disaster" is going to be: A shift in the shape of Earth!

Yesterday, August 4, 2015, the European Space Agency publicized the first image sent back to it from Europe's newest weather satellite. The image, in full color and high definition, is quite beautiful. It is also very peculiar, and provides us with explanations about the wacky weather we've been having, the drought in the western USA, the eruption of so many volcanoes planet-wide, and the massive earthquakes that have been taking place: The earth's shape has changed!

The image, at the link below, does not show earth as being round. Instead, it shows the planet has changed its shape to more of an egg-shape, with the larger part north of the equator and the narrower part south of the equator!

See for yourself: [link to www.esa.int]

There is only one thing that could cause the planet to change it's shape this way: The molten iron core of the planet is moving northward. There is only one explanation for that taking place: Something is exerting a massive magnetic or gravitational pull on the molten iron core from above our normal orbital plane.

The only thing that could exert such a magnetic or gravitational pull large enough to affect our entire planet, is another celestial body!

It seems to me that the presently ongoing military "drill" called "Jade Helm" - has another purpose: To pre-position US military assets in or near the areas which scientists feel may FRACTURE as whatever is affecting our planet, reaches its maximum pull!

I know this is a long shot, but folks, it all "fits." And thanks to the European Weather Satellite image released publicly, I believe we now have a very good explanation for all the strange weather taking place around the planet, the drought in the western US caused by the earth bulging outward, thus deepening the water table, the volcanic eruptions taking place worldwide and why our government has placed massive numbers of troops in certain locations.

Your thoughts?

oystla #conspiracy lenr-forum.com

"Scientists are not easy to convince, not not generally subject to mind control. That is, some may so be, but there are lots of them and it needs only a few to find a new extraordinarily useful discovery like LENR for this to become accepted."

Haha, you are way too naive. You think scientists are not like the rest of humanity - prefers to follow the pack, don't like changes etc. Etc.

"The whole point about LENR is that whatever conspiracy theory you like, it is strongly in the interests of individual scientists who have actually discovered it to publicise this."

Well.......If you want to publicise a new discovery, it has to be Peer reviewed and accepted by "real journals". Since cold fusion one Month after the press conference in 1989 was concluded pure "pathological science", there was no Journals that would publicise and no peers to review papers. And That's been the story ever since.

Or to repeat what the Nobel Price winner (in physics) Julian Seymour Schwinger said of his attempt to publish papers on Cold fusion :
"What I had not expected was the venomous criticism, the contempt, the enormous pressure to conform. Has the knowledge that physics is an experimental science been totally lost?

"It is not credible that science that is openly described could be suppressed for so long, if it worked."

Yes it is credible. Yes, LENR is openly described, but not in what is considered "real journals". So physcists lacks the interest and willingness and funding to investigate, since consensus is "nothing there".

The swedish physcist Stephan Pomp said it something like this : I see no Cold Fusion papers being publicised in credible real Journals, therefore I will not investigate the phenomenon.

So there we have Catch 22: the physics community will not investigate since papers are not published in " real journals", and CF researchers can not get their papers published, since all know it is pathological science and thereforee there are no one to peer review

CB_Brooklyn #conspiracy checktheevidence.co.uk

Imagine utilizing free energy technology in daily life. No more petroleum-based fuels; no more outrageous oil and gas prices. Humanity would definitely benefit from this. The technology for water powered cars has been in the news, such as in this NBC-affiliate clip. This FOX-affiliate clip reveals the development of this technology for the military. From the FOX clip we learn that Radio Frequencies are key to this technology. As you read further you’ll discover another building block of free energy: Tesla Coils. So why are these technologies suppressed? Basic Answer: Control.

The Global Elite plan a New World Order with an enslaved “police state” culture. How might this be done? One way is the Patriot Act. Another could be the 800 FEMA detention camps fully constructed, staffed, and awaiting prisoners. What else might they do? They could slow the economy. Control over oil and gas makes accomplishing this easy. All they have to do is notch those prices up little by little, and the average citizen gets poorer and poorer. Not only do these increases affect the gas pump and home boiler, they affect food manufacturing plants, public water supplies, and other necessities as well. Raising oil/gas prices is the Global Elite’s way of destroying our way of life.

But they can’t raise prices without a reason, so they concocted one: Peak Oil. That way, people assume the increased costs and fuel limits are natural with no way around it. But Peak Oil is a hoax. In the 1970s, a huge oil field was discovered in Alaska that could fuel the United States for 200 years, but its existence has been classified. Those is power have planned their New World Order for some time, and didn’t want an Alaskan field getting in the way. Instead, they approached the Saudi’s for an “oil deal”, a way of ripping them off and entrapping the United States. Information regarding this is linked later in this article; much from a video presentation by Lindsey Williams, a former “insider” turned whistleblower.

It is all too common for those in control to suppress and weaponize new technologies.

Suppression can be accomplished simply by spreading choice phrases such as “raygun nutcase”. Even the production of sci-fi TV/movies helps associate these weapons with “science fiction”. As one example, the body cloak technology portrayed in the film “Predator” is very real, and was reported in Time and WIRED magazines. It is pretty well known that these technological advances are light years ahead of what is publicly admitted. This technology is far from sci-fi and has existed for many decades.

The first microwave oven was built in 1947 by Raytheon, a major defense contractor. What advances could they have made in the past sixty years? A look at the documentary “Star Wars in Iraq” reveals weaponry based on these technologies. So what’s “crazy” about it? What would people sixty years ago have said about cell phones? “Wacky”?? How about The Wizard of Oz on an ultra-thin shiny little disc? ”Nutjob”?? What about embedding spy chips on insects? ”Insane”?? Technology has come a long way in the last 100 years.

The first major free energy scientist, Nikola Tesla, knew the direction his research would someday take. In 1915 he said “I have not thought it hazardous to predict, that wars in the future will be waged by electrical means”. The Star Wars in Iraq video proves him right.

Of course, the Global Elite need the public at large to consider free-energy “crazy”. They want this “black op” technology as their secret weapon to use against us and they attack those who speak up. One example is well known pioneer of free energy research, John Hutchison. After he and Dr Judy Wood publicized their paper “Anomalies at the WTC and the Hutchison Effect”, Hutchison ran into problems with the Canadian authorities. Another is Dr Eugene Mallove who, after writing an open letter to the world requesting free energy research funds, was killed. This “2005 Cold Fusion Colloquium” at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology had a special tribute to Dr Mallove. A number of mysterious deaths are connected to free energy suppression.

9/11 Truth is an extremely important issue and only those who really care are ever involved. But 9/11 is just one of the issues that absolutely need attention. Other issues are equally as important. One thing the Global Elite do not want revealed is the existence of free-energy technology. This technology has the capability of revolutionizing the world by removing oil/gas as main sources of fuel, but instead has been weaponized and used against us. Directed energy weapons and weather control are among the dangers we now face.

**Might this technology have been used on 9/11? What if the “truth movement” was steered by those affiliated with free energy technologies, including those who discredited it decades past? What if pictorial evidence shows resemblance to the Hutchison Effect? Would this be worth exposing?

**Might this technology have directed recent weather-related events towards populated areas? Have powerful hurricanes, tornadoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, cyclones, and volcanic eruptions shown an increase lately? What if hurricanes and tornadoes have natural characteristics of the Hutchison Effect? Would this be worth exposing?

Not many know that a major hurricane - Hurricane Erin - was in the Atlantic Ocean in September of 2001. In fact, Erin was closest to NYC, and at its largest size, on 9/11 itself. But the TV news networks had little reporting on this hurricane. Contrary to Erin, however, 2005’s Hurricane Katrina had virtually 24 hour coverage, even before it hit land. Interestingly, the National Hurricane Center projected Erin to be stronger than it projected Katrina to be four years later. So why didn’t the media cover Erin, say, on September 10, when its speeds clocked Category 3 status? Shouldn’t they have prepared the upper-east coast for this major storm?

This NASA photo taken on 9/11 reveals the proximity between Erin and New York. Weather reports at JFK Airport indicated rain! This animated graphic shows how, the day after 9/11, Erin made a sharp right-hand turn (over 90°) away from NYC and back out to the Atlantic. (Note the previous graphic displays only the location of the eye of the storm. See this photo for Erin’s full humongous size.) An astronaut in the International Space Station commented on the WTC smoke plume, but made no mention of the monstrous hurricane next to it. How come? Those interested in learning the secret between hurricanes and Tesla Coils should see Dr Judy Wood’s new paper “9/11 Weather Anomalies and Field Effects”. She presents evidence suggesting Erin was part of the mechanism used to turn the Twin Towers to dust. The paper is chock full of photos and analysis and is highly recommended.

Those who control the energy control the world.As prices for oil, gas, food and other types of energy go higher and higher, one must ask themselves what they are to do. What holds for the future?Did Bush do 9/11? Or was it Clinton? 9/11 was orchestrated by those affiliated with energy companies. The “truth movement” should not involve the “democrat vs republican” distraction but instead push to remove them all. There is only one group controlling the world - the Global Elite - and they must all be removed from power.

metmom #fundie freerepublic.com

And tell the GLBT community here to stop it’s immoral, life threatening behavior.

The people in Africa are bearing the consequences of that irresponsible behavior. The AIDS/HIV research isn’t about them anyway. It’s a liberal PC push to allow gays to continue in their lifestyle without bearing the consequences of their behavior.

Most of the rationale behind the funding for this isn’t to help the victims in Africa and it will likely be decades before any over there even have hope of seeing it. That’s why we’re simply calling it as we see it. It’s about promoting a consequence-free homosexual and drug lifestyle.

It’s nobody else’s fault the disease is still around because a cure hasn’t been found but that of the gay and drug using community. They are the ones responsible for it. They are the ones who can stop it dead in it’s tracks and they are responsible to do so. It’s reprehensible that they would continue behavior that they know will result in the deaths of others.

It’s wrong to continue that, demand funding, and then lay the deaths of innocents at the feet of scientists and researchers for something they failed to do.

James Lopez #fundie forum.freehovind.com

In my world religions class at scottsdale community college in AZ, even the textbooks admit that although some scientists believe that man was here hundreds of thousands of years to millions of years ago, the earliest evidence for man goes back only about 6 thousand years ago. Even this is just guessing or averaging the time frame. Also if man were here 3 million years ago like some scientists at Rutger's university say, then there would be trillions times trillions times trillions of people in the world not to mention an affinity amount of human fossil skeletons. We'd be walking on human bones every inch of the world, except that there would'nt be any where to walk because there'd be living people on every inch of the world too. As for the oldest civilizations, The Mexicans government knows that the Mayans oldest ancestors are The Toltec Indians. The Toltecs reported in thier writings that the world was only around 1700 years old before a world wide flood about 4,000 years ago. The exact dates they added up are only a seventeen year difference to the Hebrew calendar. For the exact dates see Hovind's seminars. As for the whale having feet or legs, you are referring to vestigial body parts. Dr. Hovind debunks this theory in one of his seminars. The whale actually needs those certain hip bones to produce baby whales. Scientists that teach this evolutionary theory about the whale are either ignorant about whale anatomy or lying. Watch Dr. Hovind's seminars and debate DVDs. People are finding out the truth. Now that science is "evolving" they are proving evolution wrong as well as the old age of the earth theory.

Reason2012 #fundie christiannews.net

Evolutionists continue to promote the false claim that the Earth is old because their fish to mankind belief system falls apart without it. Yet there's much evidence the Earth cannot possibly be anywhere near that old.

#1 Very Little Sediment on the Seafloor

#2 Bent Rock Layers

#3 Soft Tissue in Fossils

#4 Faint Sun Paradox

#5 Rapidly Decaying Magnetic Field

#6 Helium in Radioactive Rocks

#7 Carbon-14 in Fossils, Coal, and Diamonds

#8 Short-Lived Comets

#9 Very Little Salt in the Sea

#10 DNA in “Ancient” Bacteria

1) Net gain of 19 billion tons of sediment per year. At this rate, 1,300 feet of sediment would only need a few million years, not billions of years.

2) Rock doesn't bend, it cracks and breaks. Yet rock layers of the same thickness, thousands of feet thick, that evolutionists claim each layer took millions of years to be deposited are BENT, not cracked or broken.

3) It's scientific fact that red blood cells cannot survive more than a few thousand years. Yet they find them in bones mistakenly claimed to be tens of millions of years old, proving those bones are merely thousands of years old.

4) The sun is getting hotter, meaning it was much cooler in the past, too cool at the ages evolutionists claim for life to have been possible on earth.

5) The strength of the magnetic field has been decaying overall - the earliest records are only 1820's or so. As some put it "Such a rapid decay could not have been going on continuously for millions of years, because the field would have to have been impossibly strong in the past in order for it to still exist today." This alone puts the age of the earth at best to be 20,000 years.

6) Helium defuses so rapidly there would be no helium after, at most, 100,000 years, more so in hot areas where it defuses even faster. The deepest and therefore the hottest zircons (387 degrees F) contained far more helium than expected. All measurements are in agreement that all the helium should have leaked out long before now in the claimed age of the universe.

7) The Earth was not supposedly formed when the imagined big bang happened. After a few hundred thousands of years, with a half life of 5,730 years, there should be none left, yet it’s found in abundance in “ancient” fossils.

8) Comets burn up merely being anywhere near a sun, not just entering in an atmosphere. Scientists know comets cannot last millions of years, so they invent “oort clouds” as one “rescue device” where these imagined clouds make new comets.

9) Again an imagined “the land became sea and vice versa” as a rescue-device, realizing the salt accumulation in the oceans would mean we could now walk across the oceans because the salt would be so thick.

10) DNA breaks down quickly even in ideal conditions. Even evolutionists agree it should not last more than a million years. Yet we find it in bacteria dated at 250 MILLION years. (A false dating of at LEAST 250 times the true date).

Jon Rappoport #conspiracy jonrappoport.wordpress.com

"Logic students used to learn: you can have a perfectly valid argument, even if your premises, your first assumptions are completely false. Well, if the argument is about politics, your conclusion will be insane. Implementing the conclusion will earn you praise as you destroy lives. What we’re talking about here is a species of mind control.” ](The Underground, Jon Rappoport)

What’s the latest solution to the virus that causes nothing?

Here we go.

Punch line: MIT Technology Review, 2/8/16: “We have the technology to destroy all Zika mosquitoes.”

“A controversial genetic technology able to wipe out the mosquito carrying the Zika virus will be available within months, scientists say.

“The technology, called a 'gene drive,’ was demonstrated only last year in yeast cells, fruit flies, and a species of mosquito that transmits malaria. It uses the gene-snipping technology CRISPR to force a genetic change to spread through a population as it reproduces.

“Three U.S. labs that handle mosquitoes, two in California and one in Virginia, say they are already working toward a gene drive for Aedes aegypti, the type of mosquito blamed for spreading Zika. If deployed, the technology could theoretically drive the species to extinction. (emphasis added)

“’We could have it easily within a year,’ says Anthony James, a molecular biologist at the University of California, Irvine.

“Any release of a gene drive in the wild would be hotly debated by ecologists … But with Zika sowing fear across Latin America and beyond, the technology is likely to get a closer look. Four weeks ago we were trying to justify why we are doing this. Now they’re saying “Get the lead out,”’ says James. It’s absolutely going to change the conversation.’”

No kidding.

Unforeseen consequences? Unpredicted results? Ecological domino effect? Transfer of genes from mosquitoes to humans? Don’t be silly. All is well. Don’t worry, be happy. Move straight ahead with your mouth shut and your eyes closed.

In previous articles, I’ve been reviewing the basics of covert ops, because Zika fits the bill. In this case, take a virus that causes nothing, falsely link it to a tragic condition (babies born with small heads and brain damage), and then slide in the real agendas. I’ve already spelled out some of those plans, which are materializing in front of our eyes.

Gene editing is a towering plan: technocrats don’t like a species — wipe it out.

Build up the threat with lies and obfuscations and false science and wall-to-wall propaganda — then introduce the grand solution.

Depopulation turns out to be easy. Just reconfigure genes. Snip-snip.

The Zika virus isn’t “sowing fear,” as the MIT Review claims. The World Health Organization is inventing that fear. In the 70 years since Zika was discovered, it has, at worst, caused mild transient illness. Now, suddenly, it’s supposed to be creating radical birth defects. Of course, the Brazilian researchers can only find a possible correlation between Zika and the birth defect in 17 cases. Seventeen. Maybe.

But never mind. Wipe out all the mosquitoes that may be carrying Zika. Wipe out the whole species.

And come to think of it, could a case be made that certain human populations are destructive and, well, superfluous? There are people who think so. They also think that, in the onrush of automation and AI, efficient robots could replace those useless populations.

Face it. Despite all the warnings about viruses running out of control and wiping out half the world, the depopulation freaks just haven’t been able to put a dent in the global population. They hope, they pray, but no dice.

However, they have been able to produce one result: planting fear of viruses in humans. They’re adequate to that task. So wake up and smell the cover story.

“In order to destroy the imminent threat of viruses and save the human race, we must turn to cutting-edge technology: gene editing. That’s our ultimate hope.”

Destroy the village in order to save it.

Here are the final paragraphs of the MIT article:

“But a gene drive [gene editing] can also make mosquito populations disappear. The simplest way to do that is to spread a genetic payload that leads to only male offspring. As the 'male-only' instructions spread with each new generation, eventually there would be no females left, says Adelman. His lab discovered the Aedes aegypti gene that determines sex only last spring. The next step will be to link it to a gene drive.

“Kevin Esvelt, a gene-drive researcher at MIT’s Media Lab who has been outspoken about the need to proceed cautiously, also thinks Aedes aegypti eradication should be the goal, so long as the public is onboard and the safety of the idea proved.

“’Technologically, we could probably do it in a couple of years,’ says Esvelt. I’m sure we’ll be able to do it before people can agree if we should.’”

Did you get that last piece? The “cautious” scientist says: what the hell, let’s eliminate a whole species if “the public is onboard” and we prove it’s safe.

How to prove safety before launch? Hard to say. Basically, try it and then we’ll know. Vote for the bill and then you can read what’s in it. Allow a global explosion of GMO crops based on zero science about health and economic consequences, and see what happens. Expand the list of mandated vaccines for children from six to 60 and see what happens. Spray poisonous pesticides all over the planet and see what happens.

Only cranks and conspiracists and rubes and yokels and Luddites and tree huggers and bitter clingers oppose the march of science. How about editing their genes? It would make things so much easier.

Wipe out the mosquitoes. One small step for man, one giant step for mankind. Today, the mosquito, tomorrow the (fill in the blank).

The mind plays tricks:

“Listen, we’re not talking about depopulation in general. Don’t be silly. We’re just going to wipe out one species of very troublesome insect that’s wreaking havoc. Come on. It’s just once. We’ll never do it again. We’re not crazy. We’re researchers. Just give us a chance. Please. We want to launch the experiment and watch it with joy. That’s what we do. Just once. It’s our present under the Xmas tree.”

Why not? All you have to do is forget the giant clue that’s clubbing you on the head:

The virus they’re going to stop causes nothing.

What are they counting on? They’re counting on you not being able to believe the virus causes nothing. They’re betting on that.

They’re betting you’re in the trance they created.

NicholasMarks #fundie religionethics.co.uk


If all health problems are the result of our electrical nature and how we take care of it, then I would suggest that knowing this and actively doing something to prevent such a poor mental state to develop would be the best course of action...not condemn the scientist for putting a Biblically known concept into a scientific context. That way you may have helped to prevent the consequences of a drained emotional person from slipping into that terrible and very disabling emotional black-hole, which can overpower each and everyone of us if we allow it to. I can ensure you that such a person you describe didn't suddenly become ill...it was brewing up for some time...You are lashing out again, which is something I am well aware of and suggest a change in attitude, particularly towards our saviour, as your best course of action. Then we could discuss how you could upbuild your relatives emotional strength, and, thereby, his physical strength as well. We could start by using techniques the Samaritans use by listening to whatever the person has to tell you with a caring ear. Then incorporate the Catholic approach and allow him to discuss what is bothering him...in this way we are also using Freud's techniques which allows a person to poor out what is bothering them. It is all incorporated in Jesus Christ's teaching where prayer and healthy reasoning take us into a state where we are interacting with the true nature of the world and not man's selfish, greedy and often spiteful rendition of it.

Jon Rappoport #conspiracy bibliotecapleyades.net

If you have a child, don't let him/her see a psychiatrist. Ever...

Read Mike Adams' new article about psychiatry (Psychiatry Goes Insane). It's one of the best I've ever read, and I've been researching this pseudoscience for 20 years.

Then read this one, too. It's also excellent. I wrote it.

Yes, I know, I'm bragging, which is a sign of a mental disorder: Self-Inflation at the Expense of Sacred Psychiatry Disorder. The preferred treatment is electroshock therapy and MKULTRA re-programming. I'm opting for a walk in the park coupled with two doses of outrage at these fake doctors who poison brains and believe they're healers.

Here is a clue. The government gives psychiatry its fake legitimacy. That's how the game works. The government blesses the medical licensing boards that award psychiatrists permission to drug your children, alter their brains, poison them, and of course make all the fake diagnoses in the first place.

Without the government, these fakes would sink into the waves and be gone forever. Nobody in his right mind or wrong mind would ever step into a psychiatrist's office. It would be like volunteering to stumble out on to a mine field seeded with explosives.

Media, naturally, go along with the psychiatric hoax. Thousands of articles keep coming out of the hopper to support the authoritative pronouncements of these deranged monsters with medical degrees and "training" in diagnosing mental illnesses.

There are no mental illnesses or disorders. There never have been.

There are people with problems, there are people who suffer, there are people who are in desperate circumstances, there are people who have severe nutritional deficiencies, there are people who have been poisoned by various chemicals, there are people who have been abused and ignored, there are people who have been told there is something wrong with them, there are people who are different and can't deal with the conforming androids in their midst, but there are no mental disorders.

None.

It's fiction. It's a billion-dollar fiction. It's a gigantic steaming pile of bullshit. Always has been.

There is not a single diagnostic test for any so-called mental disorder. Never has been. No blood test, no urine test, no saliva test, no brain scan, no genetic test. No science.

So why hasn't psychiatry been destroyed and outlawed? Because there is money in it. Big money. Pharmaceutical money. And because the public is in a trance. Mothers and fathers are quite willing to take their children to these brain poisoners... lambs to the slaughter.

The silence of the lambs.

People are entranced by so-called professionals with fancy degrees who speak technical babble. It all seems real. Because if it weren't real, then...what? People would be forced to admit they are living in a fantasy. And people don't want to admit that. They would rather die than admit that.

But that's what psychiatry is. An elaborate fantasy. If every psychiatrist in the world vanished tomorrow, the world would immediately become a far healthier place.

If every celebrity who outrageously whores for psychiatry would stop on a dime, the world would be a far healthier place right away.

You think Dr. Phil is a fake? He's nothing compared to psychiatrists with their prescription pads. He's a saint by comparison. The drugs are brain poisons. If you really want to know the truth about the drugs, go to breggin.com and read everything Dr. Peter Breggin has ever written about the drugs.

He covers the whole slimy waterfront.

There is some horrendous handwriting on wall. Believe me. You can see it all around you if you look. The shrinks are treating younger and younger children with the brain poisons, every day. They're diagnosing children who are practically toddlers and they're drugging them. They're ripping their brains. It's happening. You may not want to know about it, but it's there. It's a crime on the order of murder.

And the bastards at the FDA and the bastards who train doctors in medical schools are going along with it. They're accomplices to the ongoing crime. They have blood on their hands.

Here is a story Dr. Breggin told in his classic book, Toxic Psychiatry.

It says it all:

"Roberta was a college student, getting good grades, mostly A's, when she first became depressed and sought psychiatric help at the recommendation of her university health service.

She was eighteen at the time, bright and well motivated, and a very good candidate for psychotherapy. She was going through a sophomore-year identity crisis about dating men, succeeding in school, and planning a future. She could have thrived with a sensitive therapist who had an awareness of women's issues.

"Instead of moral support and insight, her doctor gave her Haldol. Over the next four years, six different physicians watched her deteriorate neurologically without warning her or her family about tardive dyskinesia [motor brain damage] and without making the [tardive dyskinesia] diagnosis, even when she was overtly twitching in her arms and legs.

Instead they switched her from one neuroleptic to another, including Navane, Stelazine, and Thorazine.

Eventually a rehabilitation therapist became concerned enough to send her to a general physician, who made the diagnosis [of medical drug damage]. By then she was permanently physically disabled, with a loss of 30 percent of her IQ.

"...my medical evaluation described her condition: Roberta is a grossly disfigured and severely disabled human being who can no longer control her body. She suffers from extreme writhing movements and spasms involving the face, head, neck, shoulders, limbs, extremities, torso, and back-nearly the entire body.

She had difficulty standing, sitting, or lying down, and the difficulties worsen as she attempts to carry out voluntary actions. At one point she could not prevent her head from banging against nearby furniture. She could hold a cup to her lip only with great difficulty. Even her respiratory movements are seriously afflicted so that her speech comes out in grunts and gasps amid spasms of her respiratory muscles...

Roberta may improve somewhat after several months off the neuroleptic drugs, but she will never again have anything remotely resembling a normal life."

If the smug scum who run the NY Times put THAT story on the front page right under a huge headline, we might see something good happen in this country.

Chronic whiners want to claim the government has to protect everybody all the time, as if that were possible, as if that were really the government's aim. These whiners are busy-bodies, meddlers, and self-made victims. They sometimes pose as scientists. They love psychiatry.

They equate psychiatry with government. You know, "share and care."

They assert that government knows best. At bottom, they're vicious little idiots. But they're very useful idiots, because the government welcomes their help in keeping the populace in line.

And psychiatry is a cardinal strategy in that regard. Chemical straitjackets for the lambs.

The silence of the lambs...

Garvan Ellison #fundie garvanellison.blogspot.com

I would ask that all Christian posters please remember Dr Kent Hovind and his wife, Jo, in their prayers.

For those of you who do not know, 'Dr Dino' was a creation scientist who has paid with his liberty for preaching the truth in the supposedly 'free' USA. In spite of his incarceration, he continues to fight the good fight here on his blog.

The 'official' version of events presented by the establishment is that Dr Hovind was indicted because he tried to defraud the IRS and refused to pay tax. For some reason, the IRS decided that Doc Hovind's group was not a religious organisation and thus demanded every last penny he had. This wasn't a lot - since both Kent and his wife did not take a salary and none of the volunteers who helped them were employees. NO OTHER CHURCH HAS BEEN TREATED LIKE THIS!!!

So why did they go for Kent? It all boils down to an offer he made in 1990, and which still stands. $250,000 to ANYONE who can present ANY empirical evidence for evolution. And, despite all the atheist rantings that evolution was a 'fact', NOT ONE SCIENTIST was able to take up this challenge.

The Truth is that Doc Hovind had the establishment corned: the TRUTH was about to come out. The response was an age-old one - DISCREDIT the servant of God through false allegations and lies. Ultimately the allegations themselves were not sufficient, so they threw him in prison.

BUT He will not be silenced, and his wonderful work is still being continued by his family and friends.

Anonymous Coward #conspiracy godlikeproductions.com

EMF, the military, and you!

Hi! Did you know that our military is currently designing weapon systems that directly manipulate the way our minds and bodies operate? Would you believe that there are commercial devices used right now that “beam” voices directly into people’s heads? (Hampp) How about the fact that there is a growing community of people online who believe they are currently being targeted by these types of devices, for various reasons? (FFCHS) What about the simple fact that the World Health Organization (WHO) recently classified similar, consumer versions of these devices as possible sources of cancer? (IARC) Isn’t it curious that, even though I’m talking about the same thing in each of those previous sentences, the media doesn’t seem to inform us whatsoever about this topic?

EMF stands for Electro Magnetic Field. The World Health Organization recently determined RF (Radio Frequency) EMFs to be a “possible” human carcinogen. Just so we’re clear on the definition, “carcinogen” is defined as something that is known to cause cancer. Our bodies are bathed in numerous RF EMF’s every single day. Wireless routers, Bluetooth, microwaves (not the cooking device,) etc., are all examples of EMF. (WHO) Even the electric meters on our homes are likely emitting wireless signals! (American Cancer Society)

Secondhand smoke is a classified as a “known” carcinogen. (American Cancer Society) Evidence suggests that EMF is a “possible” human carcinogen. What is truly concerning, however, is that we cannot see or detect when we are in the presence of EMF, unlike secondhand smoke. If we don’t like being around smoke, we can leave the area. How do you remove yourself from a hazard if you aren’t aware you’re near one?

It is also concerning that, even though we are constant bathed in electromagnetic frequencies, this topic is never discussed in the media. This is such a curious thing for me. How can we disregard something of such potential importance without even a discussion? It’s not like this information is hidden, it is readily available and discussed in various forums. It is almost like the silence is intentional, and I can only speculate the reasons for this.

The various militaries of the world are studying how different types of frequencies affect the human body. The military, and other scientists, have filed some interesting patents regarding devices that modify the electrical field the human body emits, as well as the human brain.

For example, take the following patent, “Nervous System
Manipulation by EM Fields from Monitor.”

Abstract: Physiological effects have been observed in a human subject in response to stimulation of the skin with weak electromagnetic fields that are pulsed with certain frequencies near 1/2 Hz or 2.4 Hz, such as to excite a sensory resonance. Many computer monitors and TV tubes, when displaying pulsed images, emit pulsed electromagnetic fields of sufficient amplitudes to cause such excitation. It is therefore possible to manipulate the nervous system of a subject by pulsing images displayed on a nearby computer monitor or TV set. For the latter, the image pulsing may be embedded in the program material, or it may be overlaid by modulating a video stream, either as an RF signal or as a video signal. The image displayed on a computer monitor may be pulsed effectively by a simple computer program. For certain monitors, pulsed electromagnetic fields capable of exciting sensory resonances in nearby subjects may be generated even as the displayed images are pulsed with subliminal intensity. USP # 6,488,617 (December 3, 2002)

Let those words sink in for a moment. “Nervous system manipulation by EM (Electro Magnetic) Fields from (computer) Monitor. Someone has developed a method to modify your nervous system just from the EMF emitted from a computer monitor. You take this grain of knowledge, and add it to all of the hype from the NSA being in every piece of technology that exists, and it’s enough to generate a media story by itself. Yet, silence persists.

How about, a device that takes the human voice, converts it into microwaves, and beams it into the head of a target?

Hearing device
Patent number: 4858612
Abstract: A method and apparatus for simulation of hearing in mammals by introduction of a plurality of microwaves into the region of the auditory cortex is shown and described. A microphone is used to transform sound signals into electrical signals which are in turn analyzed and processed to provide controls for generating a plurality of microwave signals at different frequencies. The multifrequency microwaves are then applied to the brain in the region of the auditory cortex. By this method sounds are perceived by the mammal which are representative of the original sound received by the microphone.

Schizophrenia much? Maybe the people that “hear” voices are really just being manipulated? That is a bit of a stretch, but who knows? These are only two of many advances in this area. There is no way the military is making everything they discover public knowledge, they keep everything secret as long as they can. Believe it or not, there are commercially available devices that do this for advertising purposes. (Hampp)

CertifiedRabbi #fundie reddit.com

Who wants to bet that these IQ-linked genes won't be evenly distributed across "population groups" (aka, races)? I'm willing to bet my entire bank account that the widely observed racial IQ hierarchy that we've known about for decades will line up almost perfectly with these genome-wide polygenic scores. Likewise for socioeconomic class hierarchies (aka, social Darwinism). Is the anti-racist, anti-classist, social constructionist, egalitarian left willing to do the same? Yeah, that's what I thought...

I remember getting into a really heated debate on the old /r/AltRight subreddit about 2 years ago with a couple of the mods at /r/science that claimed to be professional geneticists. They laughed at my argument that we were probably only 5 to 10 years away from being able to create accurate DNA-based IQ predictors. I argued that when that became a reality, all of the "social constructionist" leftists that have completely dominated and corrupted both the scientific and academic community for decades would finally be exposed as the lying frauds that they so obviously are - which, again, they laughed off as being pseudoscientific nonsense.
I linked them some blog posts like this one and some video lectures like this one from Stephen Hsu because I had been following his work for several years, and so I was aware of the pioneering research that he was doing on this topic. But they were too lazy to read the blog posts or watch the lectures, which should give you an idea of how close-minded and politically biased and motivated that sub and the larger scientific community is...
Instead of trying to understand why I thought that Stephen Hsu was on to something, they instead argued that we'll probably never be able to accurately predict IQ based on DNA alone because intelligence is only partially heritable and because the portion of human intelligence that is heritable involves several thousand different genes that are interacting in impossibly complex ways.

Lots of other geneticists and academics felt the same exact way about DNA-based height predictors because height is also only partially heritable and relies on the complex interactions of thousands of different genes. But thanks to the work of a group of researchers that Stephen Hsu was a member of, we now have a DNA-based height predictor that can predict someone's height to within an inch.

And the reason why that's so important is because we can use pretty much the same exact technique that they used to create accurate DNA-based height predictors to create accurate DNA-based IQ predictors. Stephen Hsu argues that we simply need to analyze the genomes of about a million people and give them IQ tests in order to create an accurate DNA-based IQ predictor. Right now researchers are mostly relying on rough proxies for IQ like academic performance and years of completed education, but that's not as good as actual IQ tests.
And another reason why the advent of DNA-based predictors for highly polygenic human traits like height and IQ is so important is because it will allow us to greatly improve the genetic health of our species (aka, eugenics). As I wrote in more detail here, pretty soon we're going to have the ability to walk into a fertility clinic with our wives and then be able to pick the embryo with the highest IQ. And then shit is really going to get wild when we have the technical know-how to utilize precision gene editing in order to safely select all of the genes and alleles linked to intelligence while also avoiding harmful pleiotropic effects, which will produce the smartest people to ever live in all of human history.

And it's fucking sad that we have to rely on based, politically incorrect Asian researchers like Stephen Hsu in order to push through the wall of leftist, social constructionist, anti-racist, and anti-classist biases that completely dominate the West's academic and scientific institutions - which is largely being caused by Jewish and gentile shitlibs. I guess that that will be one of the benefits of China's rise and mass Asian immigration into the West.

I remember reading an article that predicted that China was on track to surpassing America and the West in about 50 years when it came to producing the top 1% of scientific papers which get cited by other scientists. And while China surpassing the West will obviously suck for us overall, one of the benefits for we Alt-Right hereditarians is that both science and academia will lurch back to the hereditarian right - which will move our species forward and rehabilitate the much-maligned reputations of the pioneering Western scientific racists and eugenicists of the late 19th and early 20th century.

Earl Grey #fundie rr-bb.com

I remember back to when I was studying Archaeology in College, we would date things using radio carbon dating. Essentially, plants take in carbon during photosynthesis, and when we or an animal eat the plant, we take in the carbon. We measure the amount of carbon left in the bones or wood (any organic material can be measured) to determine its age. However, this type of dating can really only go back 70,000 years and even then it can be wrong. I'm not quite sure how they determine something to be "millions of years old". I know in Geology they determine rock ages by looking at the layers but I cannot remember how exactly. Scientists claim the earth is 4.5 billion years old, I don't believe that. Look at how fast it is decaying and falling apart under us, and I'm to believe it has been around billions of years? That's too long for me to believe.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie disqus.com

"1) Why do you think atheists all believed the universe had no beginning"

Because it made for a good atheist myth and, if it had been true, it would have been a defeater for the 2nd premise of the Kalam Cosmological Argument. No way out there for the atheist who desires to deny God's existence.

"So what? Its still finding things amazing after the fact."

Aaah, but it is the Explanation for "amazing" that counts. :-) Not to mention that it is delusional to think that one could survive so many firing squads and they NOT be rigged.

"3) Theists have no say in science."

Then why did the Scientific Revolution kick off with theological scientists - who put prayers to God in their technical papers? And, of course, there are plenty of theist-scientists now. I happen to be one of them.

"Great is our Lord and great His virtue and of His wisdom there is no number: praise Him, ye heavens, Praise Him, ye sun, moon, and planets, use every sense for perceiving, every tongue for declaring your Creator. Praise Him, ye celestial harmonies, praise Him, ye judges of the harmonies uncovered: and thou my soul, praise the Lord they Creator, as long as I shall be: for out of Him and through Him and in Him are all things; for both whose whereof we are utterly ignorant and those which we know are the least part of them; because there is still more beyond. To Him be praise, honour, and glory, world without end. Amen." -- Johannes Kepler, "Harmonies of the World Book Five." This was at the end of this book - there are prayers interspersed throughout.

" You do realize the Cambrian was the first time hard bodied animals were available for fossilization?"

Take it up with secular scientists who are resorting to miracles and hand-waving to explain it.

"It a pity Nobel laureate Robert Laughlin was a physicist so had no idea about the field."

Ad hominem. One cannot do away with his argument based on his degree.

"Evidence should be everywhere. Where is it?"

Everywhere. :-)

"Arno Penzias would be a clown"

Ad hominem. You are the emotional atheist, no?

"Without men observing reality there would be no proof for the Big Bang."

Yes, indeed, and thank God for the Big Bang - literally! :-)

Nicolas Bonnal #conspiracy english.pravda.ru

Tolkien and the Illuminati: The dark side of LOTR

Think of the great eye of Sauron, the all-seeing eye which symbolizes NWO and echelon surveillance. Think of Mellon, the password to get in the Moria, the name of an Illuminati and bankers' dynasty. Think of the semiotics surrounding the Dark Lord, think of the ambiguity of Gandalf (a wizard? Or an "incarnate angel», as stated Tolkien?), of the weird initiations of the hobbits, think of the compelling hunger for rings, jewels and of course bloodlines, not to mention the omnipresence of orcs, dragons and monsters, and you can easily guess that there is a dark side in Tolkien universe: and after all, isn't he a British gentleman? Let's not explore my devilish side, quipped once Hitchcock in France. Britain has been during all Victorian age and later a land of witchcraft, of golden dawns and of many occult societies of writers and researchers. There is nothing neutral in British pop culture. This is what makes her so fascinating and so efficiently working on the masses.

Yet the gigantic proportions of Tolkien success are not reassuring, and many researchers, not all Christians, seem to think that Tolkien was on the dark side of the force, even if he was a devout catholic and a presumably traditional mind; he could easily been manipulated by superior forces and sources. Curious and insane Narnia of his boring friend CS Lewis confirm this unfair assertion, with its creepy centaurs and talkative fauns, Lucifer courts, fake quests and sinister lion-god.

Of course we can say that Tolkien mainly denounces what he describes... But is that so sure? Was Tolkien a counter initiate, or was he a mere eye-opener, to take Sam's words in the cavern of Moria, whose message would have been distorted by the Illuminati who control media and video-game industry?

Talking of Moria, I know a place in Spain called Moria. It's in Santander, Cantabria, and it designates a cliff that serves as pasture. There are other curious names in Spain and northern Portugal which are related to Tolkien: Gondor, Gondomar... all connected to legendary and Celtic Galicia and Compostella, this magic and telluric road of the western initiates prior to Christianity. But what is the secret meaning of the Moria? Is it material, a metal, a source of rich, or a rare raw material? Ask Gandalf but don't dig too much:

The Dwarves tell no tale; but even as mithril was the foundation of their wealth, so also it was their destruction: they delved too greedily and too deep, and disturbed that from which they fled, Durin's Bane.

In his famous book upon the Illuminati and the mind control (and as Tolkien has inspired so many games and dungeons and dragons...), Fritz Springmeier writes of the Moria that it designates the hierarchy of the Illuminati! About the rings and the opus, he even writes:

Rings are also used to signify what activity the slave is doing, and what rank or level they are in the occult... Some Illuminati survivors are always looking for a ring. Rings play a significant part in the lives and programming of slaves. One section that is coding-programming found in J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings is "One Ring to rule them all, One Ring to find them, One Ring to bring them all and in the darkness bind then."

The lord of the rings is Sauron: so he is the main character; the heroes are labelled fellowship of the ring. So they depend on the ring. This is too Illuminati agenda. There is another key-word connecting Tolkien good guys to Illuminati: bloodlines. Aragorn, who wears the winged disc in the movie, descends from Isildur the sinner, and feels weak for that reason; but for that reason too he will be the king, a restorer of a new order - the fourth age. His strange wife, Arwen, a Jungian silhouette of his soul, will not be happy too to lose her immortality. But it is too late.

In the Silmarillion, Tolkien creates too an uncertain mythology and horror; he was so fond of his worlds that he designed during fifty years dynasties, genealogies, thus presenting the horrendous manipulations of Melkor:

There countless became the hosts of his beasts and his demons, and the race of the Orcs, bred long before, grew and multiplied in the bowels of the earth... and thus did Melkor breed the hideous race of the Orcs in envy and mockery of the Elves, of whom they were afterwards the bitterest foes.... This it may be was the vilest deed of Melkor, and the most hateful to Ilúvatar.

Orcs comes from Virgil's creation (Orcus, the death), a source too much ignored by the commentators (after all, Tolkien could speak fluently Latin, and Virgil wrote the best epic ever).The gloomy creation of Tolkien mixes now with our own brave new world made up of biotech and artificial breeding. Some conspiracy theorists could join Tolkien too in their descriptions of reptilian-like persons and leaders (think of the name of Sauron). We can also say that the pagan gods of Tolkien behave like the dei otiosi of Mircea Eliade, the lazy gods who have retired from this world and who are omnipresent in primitive mythologies. They have abandoned us, hastening the despair of great Noldor leader Feanor.

Some others will notify that Tolkien defends a wrong dualistic conception (which is somewhat Manichean, I mean, strictly heretical from a Christian point of view) of the world with a powerful source of evil, sometimes superior to the good one. The progressive and implacable destruction of the middle-earth in the Silmarillion (named after the jewels!) is somewhat depressing. Is our world sentenced to such a death?

We have been many times told about German and Nordic roots of Tolkien works. Yet Melkor name has a Sumerian resonance, and so has Tolkien pantheon with his many gods and goddesses inspired by various Mesopotamian mythologies. These lazy gods look like weird oriental deities, whom the prophets and our bible thought no good at all.

And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and served Baalim... And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth. (Judges, 2, 11)

So, was our good Christian forgetting his religion while writing his fantasy books? One may say that is just kid stuff...yeah! This was the case too for Mary Poppins, for Peter Pan, for the wizard of Oz, all devised by minds involved in the occult, in masonry or in theosophy! The Illuminati agenda matches perfectly, and so do the conspiracy theories, when it comes to children's literature or to children's movies!

As Melkor plays (wields, says Tolkien) with fire and cold, a little bit like Nazi scientist Horbiger, and dreams like Leonardo di Caprio that he is the king of the world, an horrible spider grows in the dark, but not in an hazardous place:

There, beneath the sheer walls of the mountains and the cold dark sea, the shadows were deepest and thickest in the world; and there in Avathar, secret and unknown, Ungoliant had made her abode.

Why the hell James Cameron chose that name, Avatar? Amazing pop culture!

But let's not change the matter and let's conclude, opening new gates: it is clear that a book like LOTR opens our minds and our eyes to another reality. I think that Tolkien was sometimes overwhelmed by his talent and imagination (sixty thousand pages of manuscript: where was he getting himself and us to?); but he challenged and analyzed - I shall get back to these points - the perils of modern world, "magic" (technology) and industrialization, IE the destruction of any wild or traditional landscape. He saw too, like Lovecraft, that we are surrounded by mysterious, forgotten and ubiquitous monsters. But who needed to awaken them, except video game industry?

I give the last word to the Illuminati Gandalf, reminding my readers that in Hebrew (as well as in Arabic) Anor means...the light.

"I am a servant of the Secret Fire, wielder of the flame of Anor. You cannot pass. The dark fire will not avail you, flame of Udûn. Go back to the Shadow! You cannot pass."

Gandhi's Fist #conspiracy breitbart.tv

Wow--where to start, where to start...?

First, the arguement. Climate change is inherent on this planet. Proof? 10,000 years ago, the entire planet was in the throws of a global ice age. Without the assistance of man, that ice--which was over 1 mile in depth over NYC--melted. All this without the assistance of man or observations by Al Gore. As it turns out, both the planets Mars and Saturn have experienced global warming at exactly the same time we did. How do we know this? NASA was good enough to provide global orbiters which amongst many beautiful photos, provided extraordinarily accurate temperature readings. Now, I'm no Bill Nye, but what could be the cause of global warming/cooling on a solar system wide scale. Hummm? Could it be...the sun? Add to this that Global warming/climate change "scientists" have been manipulating numbers to inflict odious taxes on the population (by the way--there is your motive) and there you have it; the world's greatest fraud.

No one, not a single person I know of either political stripe likes pollution and waste, but this eco-con artistry is more than that. It is not based on science, but statist political ambition, funded by carbon tax. Tax just for breathing.

Bill Nye is the second aguement that could be made here. Nye gets some funding by--wait for it--the public trough. That's right, he gets money from the government. The government wants money from us. Does anyone see--at the very least--a conflict of interest. Further, while Bill Nye is has training--primarily as an engineer, he is no atmospheric scientist. So basically, this interview would be like getting a botanist to discuss open heart surgery in humans. He isn't qualified. Just like Al Gore isn't qualified. A polical science major does not an atmospheric scientist make.

The facts of our climate are quite the opposite of the picture painted by the global warm--no, wait--climate change con artists. The earth has been cooling, globally since 1998. While there are pockets of hot weather, the trend is definitely towards colder temps. It does not take a savant like Gore, to figure out that something has to cool the atmosphere in order for it to snow at all. You folks have any idea what that "something" might be? My money is on the sun. Which brings us to the study of that blazing hot orb. The study of the sun (also compliments of NASA), have revealed a marked reduction in sunspots, a year's absence in fact. To those not knowledgeable about the study of the Heliosphere, this roughly translated means the sun is cooling a little. This year we've also posted record low temperatures, planet wide.

Al may have made a nice fictional movie, publicly funded scientists want to see us taxed and the left wing media like Madow might want us to support this agenda using pseudo scientific arguments, but now that we see what they're up to we're saying, "NO!". On a personal level, I'm also saying, "Al--eat my shorts."

edwitness #fundie disqus.com


(In response to this story on Christian News Network which incorrectly labels a synapsid as a mammal: https://christiannews.net/2018/12/04/discovery-of-giant-synapsid-fossil-in-poland-throws-a-wrench-in-evolutionary-expectations-for-triassic-layers/ )

edwitness:
"Note that these ancestors of mammals possesed both mammalian and reptilian characteristics and confirm evolution. These creatures were not mammals."
This is a worldview statement. Not a scientific one.
Because for those whose worldview includes a Creator, this evidence does not speak of evolution. But instead proves they have a common designer. The Creator who made all that has been made who is introduced to us in Genesis.

Richard Forrest:
Nonsense. It's a scientific one which has nothing to do with "worldview".
It's a statement made in the light of the evidence.

edwitness:
Wrong. As shown the evidence only reveals to us that the animal lived. The rest of the beliefs the evolutionist comes to are from his worldview. Not the scientific method.

Richard Forrest:
The evidence also shows that it's a synapsid and not a mammal. It also shows that it lived in the Triassic period. That is what has been established by applying to the scientific method to the evidence.
You don't get to redefine what is and what is not science because the findings of science contradict your shoddy religious dogma. That is downright dishonest.

edwitness:
What is dishonest is saying that the scientific method is whatever you need it to be to make what is not evidence for your worldview become evidence. The scientific method is observable and repeatable. Without that it's just speculation. And in your case it is speculation built on a designer-less worldview.

Richard Forrest:
I'm sure that others will see the irony here. You are asserting that saying the scientific method is whatever you need it to be is dishonest, and in the same post attempting to redefine the scientific method because it contradicts your religious dogma.
Get an education. There are numerous sources out there which explain the scientific method in detail. Creationist sources are not reliable when it comes to how science is defined.
You are making yourself look both ridiculous and dishonest. If you are so deluded that you think that such an exhibition will convince anyone to join your cause, I pity you.

edwitness:
"Creationist sources are not reliable when it comes to how science is defined."
Really? They went to the same schools and received the same degrees in science that all the evolutionists went to. They know science as well, and I would contend better, than evolutionists. In fact, most of them at one time believed in evolution. But, because the evidence was not there to support it, as all the evolution scientists I gave the quotes from admitted, they rejected the lie that is evolution for the truth that the Creator God made all that has been made. Just as the evidence supports.
The irony here is that you reject the scientific method because it does not support your worldview. While claiming that while I am appealing to the scientific method, that is for our conclusions to be both observable and repeatable, I am doing this.
Unless you can observe evolution and repeat it through testing it can not be considered scientific. Which means it is a belief system built on a worldview that rejects the notion of a designer.

Richard Forrest:
Well, as we have observed evolution - using the term in the sense for which it was coined by the people who coined it - ?in action in the natural world and replicate it in the laboratory, it qualifies as science even by your incorrect definition.
As for creationists knowing science better than "evolutionists", if that were the case why do they lie about science - as Purdom has done in the article in referring to the Triassic synapsid as a mammal? Or do you not care if creationists lie provided they tell you what you want to hear.
Oh, and by the way: very, very few creationists have any qualifications in evolutionary biology, and the very small number who do reject the science on the basis of their religious beliefs. not the evidence.
Science does not reject the notion of a designer. It does not accept assertions not supported by evidence. None of the supposed evidence for a designer stands up to empirical scrutiny.

edwitness:
"Well, as we have observed evolution..."
But, that's just it. No one has ever observed evolution. No one has ever seen a lizard lay an egg and a bird fly out. Just as no one has ever observed a cat over millions of years change into a dog. Because it does not happen.
"Science does not reject the notion of a designer. It does not accept assertions not supported by evidence."
Real science is observable. Therefore evolution can not be considered Science. So it is evolution, and not science, that rejects the evidence that points to a designer. The Creator, Jesus Christ.
For example, no one doubts the monument at Mt. Rushmore is the work of an intelligent designer, yet much greater design and laws in the universe are overlooked, or disregarded, by people who believe that evolution produced everything in existence, with no intelligence or design behind it.
This makes no sense.
History tells us Gutzon Borglum was the designer of the Mount Rushmore National Memorial; the Bible tells us God is the Designer of the universe, and man was made (designed) in his image (Genesis 1:26).

Richard Forrest:
"But, that's just it. No one has ever observed evolution."
Well, the scientists who study the subject can refer to numerous observed instance of evolution in action. What do you know that they don't?
"No one has ever seen a lizard lay an egg and a bird fly out. Just as no one has ever observed a cat over millions of years change into a dog. Because it does not happen."
Quite so, and if it did it would utterly falsify evolutionary theory. I suggest that you educate yourself in the subject to that you don't make a fool of yourself by displaying such utter ignorance of what you are writing about.

edwitness:
Punctuated equilibrium, one of the novel ideas evolutionists have come to because they are constantly trying to put fingers in the dike as new archeaological finds refute old thinking, states just that.
So maybe it is you that needs to research your religion so you can see just how foolish it is. And how foolish you are to believe it.

Richard Forrest:
"Punctuated equilibrium, one of the novel ideas evolutionists have come to because they are constantly trying to put fingers in the dike as new archeaological finds refute old thinking, states just that."
You are once again demonstrating only utter ignorance! Try reading Gould's account of the theory he formulated with Eldridge rather than relying on creationist sources. Oh and by the way: it's palaeontologists who work on the fossil record, not archaeologists.
Perhaps you should take your own advice and do some research into the nature of evolution. Not that you will, because your religious beliefs are so fragile that you need to maintain ignorance.

edwitness:
Punctuated equilibrium means exactly what I have stated. If you are going to be dishonest about your own beliefs then what is the point of continuing this conversation? The goal posts are set. It is for you to show evidence for the touchdown you believe your scientists have made. And for me to show you how they have not.
My job is easy. Because all the evidence supports it.

Richard Forrest:
"Punctuated equilibrium means exactly what I have stated."
Not according to Gould and Eldridge who formulated the theory. You can find their original paper on the internet. Try reading it. If you do - and I can confidently say that you won't - you'll find that the creationist sources from which you gleaned your caricature of that theory are at best ignorant, at worst lying. But of course you won't because your religious dogma demands ignorance of its adherents.
As for research into the nature of evolution: I have carried out original research and published in scientific journals. Perhaps you should consider the possibility that I know more about the subject than you do.

Pastor Bo Wagner #fundie timesfreepress.com

Religion is a very powerful thing, so much so that, when people have been involved in it even for a while, it is very difficult to leave. It is even more difficult when an individual has been in it for most of his or her life and has given a full heart of devotion to it.

So the news world experienced some shock waves yesterday when one of the most religious men in the world renounced his faith: Farhis O'Hare, world-renowned atheist, has left the faith.

"My religion was precious to me," he said, "as much or more so than any Christian or Muslim or Jew. Faith in the absence of God always brought great comfort to my heart. Faith in the theory of evolution did too."

O'Hare tried very hard to hold onto his religion.

"I wanted to keep believing, I really did. But faith just became so hard for me. Every time I turned around the 'science' was changing. First the universe was 20 million years old, then a billion, then 4 billion, then 16 billion, and now 20 billion. It finally dawned on me that people just threw figures around without any evidence. That hurt me; I really did have lots of faith in my favorite scientists, my 'gods,' I guess you would call them."

In spite of all that, O'Hare did not go down easily.

"I worshiped very hard. I suppose I was really just trying to convince myself," he said. "I always attended lectures on atheism, even when I would rather have been on the lake fishing. I gave my offerings (donations to liberal causes) regularly. I even prayed."

When queried about whom he would have to pray to, O'Hare got a bit sheepish.

"To me," he whispered, explaining that, since he had believed there was no God,that made him (and any other human) the final authority, and thus, a god himself.

"I have to admit, it is a bit awkward at first, but after a while you just learn to refer to yourself in the second person as you pray. After a while, you can really get into it."

In addition to the billions of years simply spoken into existence as the need arose, O'Hare also stumbled in his faith because of the inconsistency of life among other believers.

"They claimed not to believe in God, but when their children's mother died, they told the kid she was 'in a better place.' They claim to believe the survival of the fittest, but then get angry when their kid gets bullied by a bigger kid. They say there is no absolute truth, but they blow up when someone lies to them. Do you want to know why I stopped believing? I left the faith because of the absolute hypocrisy of so-called believers."

O'Hare knows that he will likely receive little sympathy.

"Believers are really mean to those who leave the faith, I know that. The 'tolerant' are really very intolerant to any dissent. I fully expect to be blackballed and to have the leaders of my former religion command that other believers no longer talk to me. Shunning is such an ugly thing, but it is just part and parcel of the religion I spent my life in."

Bo Wagner is pastor of the Cornerstone Baptist Church of Mooresboro, N.C., and the author of several books which are available at wordofhismouth.com. Contact him at [Email address censored]

Hassam #conspiracy jeffpolachek.com

HAVE you ever thought about something you never shared with anyone, and have been horror-struck at the mere thought of someone coming to know about your little secret? If you have, then you probably have all the more reason to be paranoid now thanks to new and improved security systems being developed around the world to deal with terrorism that inadvertently end up impinging on one's privacy.
Some of the countries involved in such programmes include USA, UK, Spain, Germany and France. Recently, the National Security Agency (NSA) of the US has developed a very efficient method of controlling the human brain. This technology is called Remote Neural Monitoring (RNM) and is expected to revolutionise crime detection and investigation.
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What is it?

RNM works remotely to control the brain in order to read and detect any criminal thought taking place inside the mind of a possible perpetrator. Research studies have shown that the human brain thinks at a rate of about 5000 bits per second and does not have the capacity to compete with supercomputers performing via satellites, implants and biotelemetry. The human brain has a distinctive set of bioelectric resonance system. For the RNM system, supercomputers are being used and, thus, with its help, supercomputers can send messages through an implanted person's nervous system in order to influence their performance in a desired way.
RNM has been developed after about 50 years of neuro-electromagnetic involuntary human experimentations. According to many scientists, within a few years it is expected that DNA microchips will be implanted in the human brain which would make it inherently controllable. With RNM, it will be possible to read and control a person's emotional thought processes along with the subconscious and dreams. At present, around the world, supercomputers are monitoring millions of people simultaneously with the speed of 20 billion bits per second especially in countries like USA, Japan, Israel and many European countries.RNM has a set of certain programs functioning at different levels, like the signals intelligence system which uses electromagnetic frequencies (EMF), to stimulate the brain for RNM and the electronic brain link (EBL). The EMF Brain Stimulation system has been designed as radiation intelligence which means receiving information from inadvertently originated electromagnetic waves in the environment. However, it is not related to radioactivity or nuclear detonation. The recording machines in the signals intelligence system have electronic equipment that investigate electrical activity in humans from a distance. This computer-generated brain mapping can constantly monitor all electrical activities in the brain. The recording aid system decodes individual brain maps for security purposes.
What does it do?

For purposes of electronic evaluation, electrical activity in the speech centre of the brain can be translated in to the subject's verbal thoughts. RNM can send encoded signals to the auditory cortex of the brain directly bypassing the ear. This encoding helps in detecting audio communication. It can also perform electrical mapping of the brain's activity from the visual centre of the brain, which it does by bypassing the eyes and optic nerves, thus projecting images from the subject's brain onto a video monitor. With this visual and audio memory, both can be visualised and analysed. This system can, remotely and non-invasively, detect information by digitally decoding the evoked potentials in 30-50Hz, 5 millwatt electromagnetic emissions from the brain. The nerves produce a shifting electrical pattern with a shifting magnetic flux which then puts on a constant amount of electromagnetic waves. There are spikes and patterns which are called evoked potentials in the electromagnetic emission from the brain. The interesting part about this is that the entire exercise is carried out without any physical contact with the subject.

The EMF emissions from the brain can be decoded into current thoughts, images and sounds in the subject's brain. It sends complicated codes and electromagnetic pulse signals to activate evoked potentials inside the brain, thus generating sounds and visual images in the neural circuits. With its speech, auditory and visual communication systems, RNM allows for a complete audio-visual brain to brain link or a brain-to-computer link.

Of course, the mechanism needs to decode the resonance frequency of each specific site to modulate the insertion of information in that specific location of the brain. RNM can also detect hearing via electromagnetic microwaves, and it also features the transmission of specific commands into the subconscious, producing visual disturbances, visual hallucinations and injection of words and numbers in to the brain through electromagnetic radiation waves. Also, it manipulates emotions and thoughts and reads thoughts remotely, causes pain to any nerve of the body, allows for remote manipulation of behaviour, controls sleep patterns through which control over communication is made easy. This can be used for crime investigation and security management.
Concerns

With all the given benefits of RNM for tracking the illicit and treacherous activities, there are many concerns and risks being pointed out by human rights activists and other scientists. The agencies of human rights around the world have criticised RNM as a violation of basic human rights because it violates privacy and the dignity of thoughts and activities of life. Several countries have protested against it and refer to it as an attack on their human and civil rights. The scientists protesting against the use of RNM believe that people who have been implanted involuntarily become biological robots and guinea pigs for RNM activities in the guise of security. This is an important biological concern related to microchip implantation, which is a hidden technology using microwave radiations for the control of the mind.

Scientists believe that like leukemia and the cancerous risks posed by mobile phones which also emit microwaves, RNM can also pose similar threats to a subject's overall health as the heating effect of tissues with the speed of light is a known effect of high powered microwave and electromagnetic pulse weapons.

Thus, RNM remains a controversial technology which is being used in many countries for security maintenance and surveillance.

guitjoc #fundie youtube.com

I am Christian and I go to a Christian college. So I may be biased. But I know for a fact that an artifact has been found on Mt. Sinai that SCIENTISTS HAVE proven to be Noah's Ark. The dates and details match that of the description given in the bible. Look it up. If this guy had any argument against Christianity he would know what he was saying. He obviously doesn't.

Tony Demarcus, Ph.D., D.D. #fundie disqus.com

Wyatt O'Keefe:

Have you ever noticed how evilutionists, when backed into a corner, attempt to retort their deficiencies by saying that they don't have an answer? Like, where did the Big Bang come from? Evilutionist: "ummm, we don't know, but you know, secular scientists are working on it..." LOL!

In the same vein, we can tell the evilutionist relative to his supposed "gotcha" questions, that the creation scientists are working on it. How did the kangaroo get to Australia? We don't know, but creation scientists are working on it!

Now here's another thing: did you know that tens of billions of US taxpayer dollars go to support secular research in the US? And because of anti-Christian discrimination, creation researchers do not get a dime of this public money! So, in order to be fair, the evilutionist/secularist satanists that ask such questions need to petition their legislators to allocate scientific funding to creation research, pronto! If only 1 billion dollars a year, a very small fraction of our nation's research budget (which is mostly wasted), would go to creation research, the pagans wouldn't have to wait very long to receive their answers!

In the same vein, I encourage every Christian to contact their congressmen, and let them know that we need funding for real research that delivers real answers that even the satanists (Matthew 12:30) are inquiring about!

In the name of our Savior,
Brother T

David Crank #fundie unlessthelordmagazine.com

Taken together, does it make sense? If we hold to these presuppositions, then we are saying that: 1) God made our bodies to naturally and reliably produce babies whenever a man and a woman have intercourse at the right time of the month; and 2) God expects us to find ways to either time our relations or develop other techniques and technologies to control when conception will occur so as to limit our number of children.

Paul's instructions in 1 Corinthians 7, for husbands and wives not to deprive one another, seem to run counter to the idea of avoiding relations at a certain time of the month in an effort to prevent conception. The one reason Paul cites as acceptable is a spiritual reason, and then only for a limited time and by pre-agreement. Trying to consistently avoid relations on likely fertile days will invariably run into conflict with the command to not deprive one another and to meet one another’s needs.

Also it is not so easy to know with certainty when the fertile days will be. Many women's cycles have just enough irregularity to keep you guessing. Even with the use of special thermometers and temperature charting, efforts to either conceive or avoid conception often fail. In fact, a great many pregnancies result from relations at times when the charts say there should be no fertility!

Isn't it interesting how differently God made many animals? There is no problem knowing when a female dog or goat is fertile. The female knows, as does all the males around. When the female is in heat, she is receptive and conception seems to almost always occur. But the animals don't use this knowledge to try and prevent births, but rather for the opposite reason. All mating occurs when conception is almost assured.

So why would God make birth control so easy for the animals but so hard for humans? Perhaps because the animals would instinctively follow His commands to be fruitful and multiply while the humans would tend to resist and rebel - desiring to control every aspect of their lives themselves? Does God really desire us to control the number and timing of our children in accordance with what we think is best, while also commanding husbands and wives to meet each others needs regularly? If so, why didn't He give us a "fertility off" switch? Think about it!

If God desired every husband and wife to regularly have relations and, if this would naturally result in pregnancies every 9-12 months, but He only wanted them to have just a few children spaced apart at their own choice, then what was He thinking?? Look at how difficult He made it to prevent and time births while having regular marital relations! Even with all of our modern science and medicines we have a hard time doing this with a high degree of reliability and without inflicting other harm to our bodies through surgery or hormonal tampering.

Think about the different forms of birth control man has been able to invent after these many thousands of years. Consider the ones that have very serious side effects for some or sometimes result in abortions. Consider the other devices and how unnatural they seem, what they take away from the experience and yet how they occasionally fail also. Consider even "natural family planning" and its dependence on very regular cycles, monitoring, the requirement of sometimes refraining from relations when they may be most needed by one of the partners. And look at the frequency at which pregnancy still results in spite of these attempts. Does birth control really look like a part of God's wonderful design for us?

Is this really the way God designed us? And is this really what He expects us to do with His design? If anything, the evidence is that God favors a sort of birth control than maximizes conception rather than restrains it. For the Jews under the Law, God prescribed certain times during and just following the woman's menstruation when relations were forbidden. The point when relations were again permitted coincides closely with the approximate time of a woman's greatest fertility. Doesn't this sound more like a plan to encourage large families rather than small ones?

Is use of birth control like use of medicine? I know some compare birth control to modern medicine. If we think we should make use of modern medicine to help us when we are sick, and not just trust God alone, how is that any different from using birth control? Well, for most of us, birth control has nothing to do with something going wrong in our body. Our bodies were designed to produce babies. Becoming pregnant is not a sickness from a bacteriological or viral attack, nor is it a breakdown in our body systems. Modern birth control medicines and devices are uses of modern science to thwart rather than aid God's design.

Where else will this viewpoint lead? Much as Darwinism had an impact on people's worldview far beyond the scientific theory itself, even so the worldview that accepts birth control as both a right and a responsibility has far reaching impact. Without this acceptance of birth control and its philosophical justification, we would not have legalized abortions today. Without its widespread availability we would probably not have nearly the incidence of immorality and infidelity that we have today. Even one of the very things birth control was supposed to help - out of wedlock births - has in fact become much worse! Faith in birth control has encouraged many more to be immoral with less fear of consequences. Yet neither the birth control methods, nor their personal application of them, are perfect, resulting in more rather than less out of wedlock births.

Where next? A great deal of research is being devoted to genetics today. Ostensibly the results are to help prevent and repair genetic problems prior to birth. But when the accepted philosophy is one of planning and choosing your children and "no unwanted children", the use may be something altogether different. Would not many want to choose everything about their child? Will it be a boy or a girl? With what eye and hair color and shade of skin? What facial features, height and build, or personality type would you like?

Will the scientists ever achieve this? I don't know, but I am sure many would jump at the chance to use it if it were available! If you believe life is all a matter of biology and chance without God, just how far will you go to try and control life? Have we perhaps already gone too far with our efforts to control things that God did not intend us to control?

David J. Stewart #fundie google.com.au

The Bible plainly says,

Revelation 13:16-18, “And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.”

It also should be considered that the number 6 is the number of mankind. In Romans 6:6, the word “man” is the 6th word of the 6th verse of the 6th chapter of the 6th book of the New Testament. I don't get caught up into Biblical numerology that much, but it's preeminence throughout the Scriptures cannot be denied. God cleverly assembled the Bible in such a way that it is evident that the Lord loves numerology (the study of numbers).

God wouldn't have tossed out the challenge in Revelation 13:18 to compute the number of a man, who will be the Antichrist, unless it were possible to solve. At no point throughout history have Christians been able to discern Biblical prophecy as accurately as today, because we are blessed to literally be living in prophetic history (that is, prophecy is history written in advance). The New World Order is unfolding before our very eyes, being called for by name around the world by the leaders of nations, scholars, the Pope, scientists, educators and influential people from all walks of life.

We are witnessing prophetic history being fulfilled. I am confident that the challenge in Revelation 13:18 was put there by God for more than just our mere curiosity; but rather, as a lamp unto the feet of the saints who will be persecuted and many martyred during the Tribulation by the Antichrist. Remember, the Antichrist cannot be introduced to the world until the Rapture of the saints (2nd Thessalonians 2:7-8). So, in my humble thinking, I would think that the challenge of Revelation 13:18 will not be solvable until that time. I am grateful to God, and feel so blessed every time I read the Bible, to have such a clear view of Biblical prophecy.

The Old Testament prophets didn't understand what they wrote. The prophet Daniel even saw things from the End Times in visions, and desired to know what they meant, but God told him it wasn't meant for him. Daniel 12:8-9, “And I heard, but I understood not: then said I, O my Lord, what shall be the end of these things? And he said, Go thy way, Daniel: for the words are closed up and sealed till the time of the end.”

It is abundantly clear that we are now living in the End Times, during the time of the feet of iron and clay of Nebuchadnezzar's image. The Second Coming of Christ is represented in Nebuchadnezzar's dream by a STONE cut from a mountain without hands, which is Jesus Christ, who will smash the image (the kingdoms of this world), and establish His own Kingdom. Even so, come, Lord Jesus!

Bev Jo #fundie bevjoradicallesbian.wordpress.com

Most men pollute the earth for the sheer pleasure of it, not just as the by-product of their industries. Men love to leave their mark as a territorial statement, just as many male animals mark “their” territories by spraying. Of course, human males also mark with urine, as anyone who’s been in a public telephone booth knows. Even when public toilets are available, men leave their smell and mark on objects in ways females don’t.1

Some Lesbians say in anger that men are such “animals,” but that’s insulting to animals. Of course all mammals, including humans, are animals, but men are the least natural of animals. European-descent men in particular seem to have the goal of creating a completely artificial world2 and have left their mark on the earth forever by altering the natural landscape in many places. They kill forests, build their ugly cities, change the land’s shape with their destructive farming and mining methods, and they’re even changing the weather.3 They’ve exterminated countless plants and animals, and their murder of entire species is accelerating. Their radioactive and toxic chemical wastes will contaminate many parts of the earth for hundreds of thousands of years. Plutonium, which is completely man-made, remains deadly for 250,000 years. One sixteenth of a millionth of a gram can kill a person, and men have already made thousands of pounds of it.4 If we didn’t know this was true, it would be hard to believe. Even so, it’s still unimaginable except in nightmares. Man has truly left his mark on his territory and, for the most part, he’s very proud of himself.

People speak of “man’s inhumanity to man,” because the effect on females isn’t even considered. But Man enjoys his power and cruelty. It makes him more of a man. A male nuclear scientist who watched numerous nuclear explosions said what a “rush” it was because, “A male human being likes to see an explosion.”5 (And there are over 50,000 nuclear weapons on earth.)

Sassy #fundie religionethics.co.uk

If anything this thread is the perfect example of why man has not progressed. They can't get past the arguments amongst themselves long enough to examine the truth.

They attach themselves to any belief which will support their chosen belief.
Whilst truth seekers only adopt beliefs which are proven to themselves.

Not one of you are showing the intelligence you were born with. God exists and he is still the only evidence which has not been disproved. Scientist make claims and then make new claims. But never make solid claims.
Man is aware of his own mortality and animals are not. A CLEAR distinction as to why we are not animals.

But hey you are quite good at making yourself out to be buffoons and who knows maybe the animals are laughing at you in their own way. Superior in all ways but still trying to pretend you are an animal. Would animals be daft enough?
Truth is they wouldn't blooming care because they are animals they have no understanding of the argument.

Anonymous #racist misterpoll.com

Have you ever noticed how BADLY black men want White women?? It's the proverbial "every negro's dream". Despite the quantifiable fact (check the next US Census or this url: http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/ms-la/tabms-3.txt if you're skeptical) that 95% of people in America marry within their own racial/ethnic group (i.e. Whites w/ Whites, blacks w/ blacks, Asians w/ Asian, latino w/ latino), black men still demonstrate a stronger preference for White women than men from other racial/ethnic groups such as Asian or latino.

People are naturally attracted to people who share their physical characteristics. Although I'm able to appreciate the beauty of women from other racial/ethnic groups, I feel no strong, compelling impulse to reproduce with someone from another race. For example, I can tell you from a personal perspective that a tall White male with blue eyes, fair skin, and light brown/blond hair is going to experience the highest sexual attraction possible to a tall White woman with similar attributes. It's only natural, and similar to the preference that light-skinned negroes exhibit for other light-skinned negroes.

So why DO black men want White women so BADLY??? Poor, pathetic black women spend millions (collectively) every year for products to straighten their hair, EVEN DYEING IT BLOND IN SOME CASES, in an effort to look like a "White woman" so that they can attract and maintain a relationship with a black man. I want to offer some insight into this phenomenon.

1) Fat lips, kinky hair, and broad monstrous noses - While these physical characteristics may understandably be considered attractive in certain areas of Africa, they are considered unattractive to other races. The black men simply don't want to curse their descendents with physical traits that are regarded as unsightly by the dominant races, so they endeavor to dilute their African genetic code with a European genetic code. They want a daughter who looks like Mariah Carey or Vanessa Williams, rather than "Aunt Jemima" or the woman who gave birth to (professional basketball player) Patrick Ewing.

2) What better way to get back at "Whitey" for slavery, elevate your status among the "homeboys", and bolster your negro self-esteem, than to have sex with a White woman!!! Never mind that most of these White women are overweight, ugly, have low self-esteem, or have been rejected by White society for some reason and therefore must "settle" for a black man out of desperation... White is White!!! It still gives a reason for a homeboy to dance and clap in the pews at church and shout "Glorbee Hallelujah!!!". It's just a shame that these homeboys regard black women as "second-rate".

3) Forbidden Fruit - (this matter is somewhat complex) As American adolescents enter puberty, they begin to notice and explore media images (TV shows, movies, magazines) of attractive members of the opposite sex that are used to sell products such as candy, soft drinks, acne medication, clothing and anything else that teenagers can purchase with their disposable income. Because of the fact that America is approximately 75% White, and for obvious economic reasons, most of the images used in the mass media are of attractive Caucasians. This is probably the source of the black man's "fixation" on White women, and ultimately the source of great frustration for the male negro. This frustration is caused by societal pressures on white women to not be "social failures" who date negro men, hence the "forbidden fruit", and because the vast majority of White women are not attracted to negro men for the same reason that White men are usually not attracted to negro women. If you don't believe that White men (horny or not) are not attracted to negro women, consider this... How many WEALTHY White men (who are usually favored by most women of any race) do you see marrying or even dating black women??? The "trophy" has always been a young, attractive White woman, and I guarantee you that this situation will never change.

4) Evolution - Perhaps it's an effort to "evolve" and advance their race. In the black man's estimation, a kid who is 50% white is better than a kid who is 100% black (or has two parents of primarily African genetics). When comparing the number of engineers, doctors, lawyers, scientists, published authors, and successful business professionals who are White verses the number who are black... even Snoop Doggy Dogg could do the math on that one. If the black man wanted black kids, he would pursue a BLACK WOMAN, but knowing that he can never become "white", he does the next best thing. The so-callled "black pride" is sacrificed as the pursuit of the White woman becomes the negro's Holy Grail. The negro males just want to secure for their offspring what they either consciously or subconsciously perceive as "better genetics", i.e. the genetics of better looking or smarter people. If they thought black women were the other half of the "formula" for producing attractive and intelligent children, they would pursue BLACK WOMEN.

If a literate negroid has read this far, he is probably trying to console himself by asserting that White women have sex with black men because of large black genitilia. First of all, ask any gynecologist and he/she will tell you that a woman's vagina comes in a variety of shapes and sizes. Most women do not have a coarse, oversized vagina that needs a freakishly large genitilia to be properly filled. Given that a woman's vagina can expand to accomodate the birth of a baby, and that many women enjoy digital and oral stimulation, size issues are irrelevant. Furthermore, check out any of 10 billion porn sites on the Web, and you'll soon discover that a White man can posess very large genitilia. The myth of the black male genitilia is just that, a myth.

However, other than running and jumping ability, most negro men just don't have much else in which to take pride, so they obsess over their genitilia and live their lives in a state of permanent adolescence. REAL sexual satisfaction has everything to do with an emotional/spiritual connection, and NOTHING to do with the physical aspects of "gettin' a groove on", and this is why most White women avoid black men.

supersport #fundie christianforums.com

Evolution is a religion because it's based on two concepts that require blind FAITH. The first is random mutations. The second is natural selection. Neither one of these things can be seen, tested or proven.....

Well actually NS could be proven by controlled experiments, however scientists appear to be too chicken to try such a thing. (just like they're too chicken to experiment by moving animals to different locations in the world to see what would happen to their phenotypes.) In fact, as far as I know, not ONE such experiment on natural selection has been tried. Of course I could be wrong about this, but if I am, I'd love to the see the link.

The fact is, your theory is based on sheer speculation and a desire to not be created. What you believe in is not science, it's Sesame Street-style make-believe. It's a fairytale for grownups who seek to deny the obvious. There is not one shred of hard evidence or truth to it. S

kjistrom #fundie rr-bb.com

[A thread that was a reaction to the discovery of an echo of the Big Bang has turned into a discussion on whether the speed of light is decreasing. Another fundie has criticized a creationist astronomer named Barr Setterfield.]

All of science believed that the s. of l. was decaying up until about 1950, many peer-reviewed papers were written. When they came to the understanding that their Evolution Theory would not work, they changed the s. of l. to a constant knowing that most could not do the math. Setterfield took on the task and was ridiculed for it for years, only in the last few years has his work been recognized as right. They still refuse to say their sorry for the ridiculing of his work though, because of their beloved Evolution Theory, but they know he's right

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Light was not created from the distant stars to the earth, the light was created from the earth, our Lord and Creator was standing on the earth when He created the light and it went out from here. Science always gets it wrong because of that.
I'm not dogmatic on this but I would think that some of the light still has not reached the farthest stars. Science would say that the light has not reached the earth yet, their wrong.

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No scientist that believes in Darin's nonsense and his book "On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection, or the Preservation of Favoured Races in the Struggle for Life."
Secular Science has stopped those like the Setterfields from publishing just like any creation scientist can not publish any of their findings.

Mike King #conspiracy tomatobubble.com

Regardless of what one may think of the North Korean system -- and we suspect, as rare western visitors to the country have alleged, that the situation is not quite as bad as what the Piranha Press leads us to believe -- North Korea poses no threat of any kind to any of its neighbors. So then, why the harsh sanctions and perennial warmongering toward North Korea by the Globalist-Zionist Axis of Evil? There are two familiar reasons:

1. North Korea fiercely guards its sovereignty and has no use for The New World Order.

2. Israel regards North Korea as an enemy state because it sells advanced technology to Syria, Egypt and Iran. (here)

It's that simple.

Such is Israel's hatred for North Korea that it murdered 10 visiting North Korean scientists / technicians during an air-strike on an alleged Syrian nuclear reactor in 2007. (here) But you didn't hear of this event on the "Fake News" because we aren't supposed to know that America's perpetual wars have anything to do with eliminating Israel's innocent enemies. From The Great One of Germany, to Hussein of Iraq, to Qaddafi of Libya, to Assad of Syria, to Kim of North Korea, it's always some phony pretext about "human rights" or "weapons of mass destruction" that's fed to us as the reason for hating on the "bad-guy-of-the-month." And with every successful "regime change," the usual suspects will pop open a bottle of Manischewitz and drink and masturbate to the death of yet another "evil dictator" as TV-addicted Boobus Americanus cheers: USA! USA! USA!

1- Operation Orchard was blacked out of the Israeli and US press for 7 months, even though the CIA knew that it had happened. Most of the dead were North Koreans. 2. Trumpstein-Satanyahu-Kushner-Ivanka are now simultaneously threatening the same two countries that were targeted by Operation Orchard -- North Korea and Syria.

This piece by Slimes' scribbler Mark Landler (cough cough) offers up the usual disinformation regarding true motives behind Trumpstein's sabre-rattling across the Pacific Ocean. Let's examine just a few lines.

Landler: President Trump’s deployment of an aircraft carrier to the waters off the Korean Peninsula ...

Analysis: Isn't it interesting how Sulzberger's Slimes and the rest of the Piranha Press, in the wake of Trumpstein's recent warmongering, have started respectfully referring to him more and more as "President Trump" and less and less as "Mr. Trump?"

Landler: But the show of American force conceals a lack of better options for dealing with the provocations of the rogue government in North Korea.

Analysis: What "provocations?" Why is North Korea a "rogue government?" Unlike Israel and its American attack-bitch, North Korea has neither attacked nor threatened any other nation. To the contrary, the North Koreans have expressed a desire to sit down and talk with Trumpstein. Indeed, the only reason why North Korea maintains such a large and formidable military is to prevent the US and its South Korean vassal from attacking it.

Landler: China’s president, Xi Jinping, did not make any public commitment to tighten the pressure on North Korea during his meeting in Palm Beach, Fla., last week with President Trump. Even privately, officials said, he was circumspect.

Analysis: In other words, China knows that the North-Korea is harmless and should be left alone.

Landler: And an attack on North Korea carries far greater risk than the missile strike ordered last week to punish President Bashar al-Assad of Syria

Analysis: Darn right, it's risky. North Korea has "nukes" and a super-powered friendly neighbor to its north (China).

Landler: .. to punish President Bashar al-Assad of Syria for his deadly chemical weapons attack.

Analysis: Liar! The attack was a false-flag -- if it even happened at all.

Landler: The White House is likely to pursue so-called secondary sanctions, which target Chinese firms and banks that help North Korea earn foreign currency and finance its weapons programs. The question is whether the Chinese government will cooperate with the effort, and if it does not, whether Mr. Trump will impose the sanctions unilaterally, even at the risk of rupturing the relationship between Washington and Beijing.

Analysis: The North-Korea-hating Zionists don't care if we end up at war with China. And pay no mind to the dangerous disinformation we keep hearing about how China has grown sick & tired of North Korea's antics and wants to see the Kim Dynasty fall. The two nations have, since 1961, been party to the Sino-North Korean Mutual Aid and Cooperation Friendship Treaty, whereby China is bound to render military aid by all means to North Korea against any outside attack. This treaty was extended twice and is currently valid until 2021. (here) -- Funny how Landler and his ilk never seem to mention that Treaty.

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As it is in Syria, so too it is in the Korean peninsula. We are just one Israeli false-flag attack from being stampeded into another "Remember the Maine" moment. Such a stunt would actually be easier to pull-off under Korean waters than on Syria's land. You see, Israel's state-of-the-art submarines, sold to them at a deep-discount by the pathetic Germans, have the capacity to prowl all of the world's waters and even launch missiles. Who would dare to accuse "our ally" of taking out an American vessel in Korean waters? Or of hitting Hawaii? No, sir. That would be "anti-Semitic," don't you know?

We are not predicting this nightmare submarine scenario. Suffice it to say that the arrival of American warships in Korea and China's front yard will be an event fraught with danger on many levels. Thank you, President Kushner.

The public has already been conditioned to fear North Korean submarine and missile attacks. Who would ever suspect Israel?

Boobus Americanus 1: I read in today's New York Times that Trump is sending warships to the Korean peninsula.

Boobus Americanus 2: That little fat Kim fellow needs to be taught a lesson.

Sugar: Zzzzzzzz. Zzzzzzzz. Zzzzzzzz"

Editor: Recent events are starting to take a real toll on baby's delicate emotions.

JÖRG B. #racist pi-news.net

As a nature scientist with profound interest in paleontology and evolutionary biology I see the immigration with great worries, even if it is well-founded. We do know from the history of the earth and that of humans, how these invasions impact us.

Let's start first with some biology: there is a law in biology that says that a species adapted to its ecological niche can't be erased by a new existing species, because it would also have to adapt itself to that niche. This can't happen, because the niche is already occupied. From this view nobody could fight against our niche.

Aggressive Immigration

There is also an exception to this rule and that's immigration. If a species (or fauna) lives in ecological balance and if strangers come from outside or get introduced, the local life can't resist against it. The new enemies don't get viewed as such, the local fauna goes extinct and new ones take over their niches. In the history of the earth this has happened a lot, normally by continental drifts and the lowering of the sea level and is the reason why there aren't any marsupials in South America with the exception of the possum. The specific South American fauna had no chance against the robbers that aggressively came from North America when North America and South America drifted together.

Doesn't it sound familiar if I changed some words?

There is also another biological aspect of the affair, where I am by the human animal; A fact, that everyone wants to hide and that has to do with how big the hormonely guided instincts are in the behavior of the Homo Sapiens. Our species isn't that old, with the civilisation being younger and that what we call civilized behavior being 250 years old. The definition of >>Decadence<< is something I don't want to tackle, because it leads to quarrel. Much more important is the question, on what our entire existence from 600 million years - where 250 years of European civilisation doesn't matter anymore - is founded. It is exclusively the reproduction. Meaning the production of the next generation by preserving the species. This is stuck deeply in our genes and can be whitewashed by education, but can never be erased.

The instincts of station bludgeressses

The mechanisms of reproduction are well-known since the dawn of time: A female exemplar that is ready to mate searches for the best possible male exemplar of the same species and produces with them the best possible offspring. This is in no way an aware, but a from instinct guided behavior. The from the female exemplar selected male exemplar has to make sure, that the mother and the child and the genes that have been given to the child maximal protection. Women are already unsuited to be biological protectors, because they can be made fertile by invaders and therefore can give over its genes just as much as the local inhabitants. The invader, that has shown itself to be stronger, is even more attractive than the loser. The female is automatically less willing to protect the >>homeland<< than the man (which explains the failure of female >>Defence<<).

And now we come to human history and it's not a logical, but a purely instinctively executed genocide of men. The last case in Europe wasn't to long ago and took place in Bosnia. Despite civilisation finding this behavior scary it is completely natural. Why women are never affected by genocide can be seen in the previous paragraph: Women will - again completely unaware - decide for the remaining conquerors and murderers, because there isn't anything else left, because they have to instinctively give their genes.

This is why I am worried; and not because of any diffused feelings, but because I see clearly what is coming to us. It doesn't matter, from where the collection of viril men comes, that come in our country in the hundreds of thousands. I only know that I, as a white man, am endangered and that I have to protect myself against them. Because I can't resist the invasion anymore with a spear, bow and arrows, crossbow or shotgun I must at least vote for the only party that has the confidence to say something against it. The other things of the AfD, such as the Euro, the GEZ and the fight against gender-idiocy are things I support too, but they are to me only secondary in the fight to survive.

But: the station bludgeresses do behave instinctively. This is how we can hold it tight.

Unknown author #fundie creationworldview.org

Evolutionists do not want us to teach in our public schools the science that shows the validity of creation. They want us to teach only their (with apologies to Rudyard Kipling) "Just So Stories."

Personally, I believe that we should teach evolution side-by-side with creation giving equal scientific emphasis and have our students learn to think critically. Let us show them both and allow them to decide for themselves which one they will believe because origins is a faith position. Evolutionists reject this two model approach to teaching about origins because they inherently know that they will lose every time.

If they will not allow the teaching in our public schools of the science to support creation and adamantly defend the teaching of evolution only, that is fine with me - as long as we teach the students more about evolution than the evolutionists do. If we teach students ALL about evolution then they will realize that evolution is intellectually bankrupt.

The solution to evolution is education!

Please allow us to teach the students the truth about the implications of the Laws of Science, such as the First and Second Law of Thermodynamics, and how these Laws disprove evolution. Please allow us to teach the truth about the whole and complete nature of natural processes, like photosynthesis and metamorphosis, and how these could not possibly come into existence by random chance. Please allow us to teach the truth about what is really in the ground, like the out of order layers and polystrate fossils, as opposed to what evolutionists say is in the ground.

Please allow us to teach the truth about the hoaxes and frauds that have been authenticated and perpetuated by evolutionists then later had to be retracted. Please allow us to teach the truth about: Piltdown Man, Java Man, Peking Man, English Peppered Moths, the Horse Series, Pithecanthropus alalus, Galapagos Finch Beaks, embryonic recapitulation and the Monera.

Please allow us to teach the students the truth about how the acceptance of evolution is the foundational justification to promote: human racism, homosexuality, abortion, euthanasia, lawlessness, pornography, and all the other immoral and unethical activities within our society.

Yes, I am convinced! We need to teach more about evolution in our public schools, not less!

With this admonition in mind, I want to give you a Primer on the Scientific Reasons that Evolution is Wrong. The following are only thirty basic points and are by no means the total list that we might make. This is just a list that you may refer to when you want a quick way to look up what is wrong with evolution.

1. The evolution of one kind into another kind is not happening in a measurable way in the present, nor can it be proven to have occurred in the past.

2. No new kinds of organisms are being observed coming from previously existing organisms. (We discover new kinds that we have never cataloged before, but this only shows our ignorance of their existence.)

3. No new structures or organs have been observed coming into existence. All observed structures or organs are fully formed when first observed. (The only observed changes to current structures or organs come from their decay and degradation.)

4. There are distinct gaps between the known kinds of organisms. One kind is not observed to change into another kind. We do not observe the "missing links" because they are missing, not there, don't exist.

5. Life only comes from life and reproduces after its own kind. Life does not come from non-living material. Life does not spontaneously generate itself.

6. Mutations, the supposed driving mechanisms of evolution, are random in nature and are neutral or harmful. They do not accumulate beneficially. Mutations produce the wrong kind of change and will not provide for the upward progressive increase in intelligence or complexity required by evolutionists.

7. We observe stasis, not change, in nature. Extinction is a proof of creation. We do not find change in the fossil record nor can we measure it in the present. Animal and plant kinds that exist today retain the same appearance but are smaller in size than their known predecessors.

8. The fossil layers are not found in the ground in the nice neat clean order that evolutionists illustrate them to be in their textbooks. There is not one place on the surface of the earth where you may dig straight down and pass through the fossil layers in the order shown in the textbooks. The neat order of one layer upon another does not exist in nature. The fossil bearing layers are actually found out of order, upside down (backwards according to evolutionary theory), missing (from where evolutionists would expect them to be) or interlaced ("younger" and "older" layers found in repeating sequences). "Out of place" fossils are the rule and not the exception throughout the fossil record.

9. Polystrate fossils, fossils which penetrate two or more layers of the fossil record (most often trees), are common throughout the fossil record. In rare cases even large animal skeletons have been found in vertical position rather than in a horizontal position.

10. Life forms are found to be complex even in the "oldest" layers of the fossil record. For example, various species of Trilobites are found to have very sophisticated eyesight. Yet evolutionists say that these creatures supposedly evolved into existence when the first multiple celled life forms began to evolve some 620 million supposed years ago.

11. Nature does not provide us with the proof for the "Tree of Life" so glibly talked about by evolutionists. We do not find life starting as simple and then branching upward and outward as it becomes more and more complex. We do not find that life forms follow the pattern of a single tree trunk with many branches. The physical evidence provided by nature gives a picture of an extremely large orchard with all plant and animal types represented from the beginning with their own individual trunks and branches producing the variations within kinds that we have today, but no new kinds progressing from previous kinds.

12. There are no transitional forms found in the fossil record. In spite of all the reports people may have heard, we have never found the fossil of a plant or an animal which is a true intermediate form. The "missing links" are missing because they are missing.

13. Be wary of artists renderings. An artists depiction, conception or illustration is imaginary. Simply because we see an artists illustration of a cow becoming a whale doesn't make it so. Human desire and imagination are not evidence.

14. Ancient man was not primitive. Ancient human cultures had more complex languages than we do today. The engineering feats of the past cultures are well recognized and in some cases have not been duplicated in modern times. There never was a Stone Age, Bronze Age or Iron Age. Man has used stone, bronze and iron tools in all ages of past human activity. Indeed, there is nothing new under the sun.

The observed Laws of Science contradict the various theories of evolution.

15. The law of Cause and Effect not only describes that for every effect there must have been a cause, it also tells us that the cause must be greater than the effect. No one can create anything greater than themselves. You do not get an increase in intelligence or complexity without the input from a greater intelligence.

16. The First and Second Laws of Thermodynamics work contrary to evolutionary belief. The First Law of Thermodynamics (The Law of Energy Conservation) proves that the universe cannot be the reason for its own existence. According to the First Law the universe cannot have been anything less than it is, and if it cannot have been anything less than it is, it had to come into existence whole and complete. If the universe came into existence whole and complete, then it had to be created. Simply adding energy to a system will not cause an increase in intelligence or complexity. The addition of undirected energy to a system accomplishes nothing, except possibly for the destruction of that system.

The Second Law of Thermodynamics (The Law of Entropy) proves that evolution cannot happen. The Second Law stipulates (a poor attempt by scientists to describe The Curse of Genesis Chapter 3 and Revelation) that in all activities some of the energy becomes unavailable for further useful work. The universe is running down, not up.

17. The concept of a "Big Bang" producing the universe is absolutely illogical. Explosions do not produce ever increasing order and structure. Explosions produce disorder and chaos. Explosions break things down or destroy what was previously ordered.

18. There is no substantiated method in nature which would allow stars to be "born." The Gas Laws prove that the pressure of hot gases expanding outward from a center is far greater than the gravitational force drawing them towards a center. Stars could not evolve into existence.

19. The Law of Biogenesis (the Law of Life Beginnings) accurately states that life only comes from life, and that life only reproduces after its own kind. Life cannot spontaneously generate and life forms do not change from one kind into another kind.

20. The input of undirected energy accomplishes nothing. The input of undirected energy will destroy a system, not build it up. Only the input from a greater intelligence will cause a beneficial increase in order and/or complexity.

21. Not only must there be the input from a greater intelligence in order to produce an increase in complexity and/or intelligence, that intelligence must have a preconceived plan of action. No master craftsman would start to build without first having a plan, a blueprint.

22. In order for evolution to be true atoms must form useful molecules such as enzymes, amino acids and proteins by random chance. It is mathematically impossible for these molecules, much less the far larger DNA molecule, to form by random action in nature. It cannot happen!

23. Natural selection and survival of the fittest are supposed to be the driving forces of progressive upward evolution. There are no selective benefits for a supposed transitional form. There would be no advantage for a creature to have a half-evolved eye or a half-evolved wing. Indeed, the existence of such structures would be detrimental and serve only to eliminate, not perpetuate, such disfigured organisms from a given population.

24. The presumed intermediates required by evolution do not exist. The missing links are missing because they are missing. Reptilian scales do not/cannot become feathers. These structures originate from different cells within the skin tissue. Reptilian lungs do not/cannot change to become avian (bird) lungs. Air flows in and out of reptilian lungs just as in humans. Bird lungs have a flow through design.

25. Living organisms are incredibly complex and have specific design features. In order to make this point please consider the following partial list: woodpecker tongue, Bombardier Beetle chemistry, insect metamorphosis, Giraffe heart and arterial system, Gecko feet and human eyes (or human brains for that matter).

26. Single-celled organisms such as bacteria, amoeba and algae have the same degree of complexity within them that multiple-celled organisms have within them. Single-celled organisms have a skeleton, respiratory system, digestion and elimination systems, circulatory system, reproductive system, command and communication system.

27. Life forms are irreducibly complex. To code for RNA production within a cell you must already have whole and complete DNA. To make DNA you must already have whole and complete RNA. In addition, it requires about 70 proteins to fabricate a DNA molecule, but you must have whole and complete DNA to fabricate those proteins.

28. When we see design we know that there is/was a designer. The human mind intrinsically knows the difference between randomness and design. When we see a plastic hair comb, one of the simplest structures ever designed and consisting of only one part, we know that it was designed and made through intelligent effort. A plastic hair comb does not come into existence by random chance.

If we see three stones sitting on the bottom of a clear stream we know that they got there by the random action of the water current. If we see the same three stones piled up one on top of the other sitting on the bank of that stream we know that an outside intelligence placed them there.

We see design throughout nature. For good health blood must clot when it gets outside the body, but must not clot inside the body. In addition, it must stop clotting and not continue to clot once exposed to the outside. The molecular motors which turn the cilia of cells look exactly like little electric motors complete with bearings, shaft and housing. Our bodies must make decisions to accept or reject foreign substances or our immunological system does not work. Our bodies must also manufacture effective countermeasures without killing us at the same time.

29. Charles Darwin stated that the existence of vestigial and retrogressive organs and structures in the human body were essential proofs of evolution. It has now been determined that there are NO vestigial or retrogressive organs or structures in a human body!

30. Evolutionary theories remain incapable of explaining the existence of sex, symbiosis or altruism.

I reiterate that the solution to evolution is education! If we teach the true facts of science and teach our people to think critically they will never believe the Just So Stories of the evolutionists.

Besides, what is so dangerous about the facts that support creation?

A belief in creation destroys the works of the Devil!

That is what is so important about it and why evolutionists cling to their faith position concerning it. Evolution is a religion of conveniences. The acceptance of evolution is the only way in which people may mentally justify that there is no God. The acceptance of evolution is the only way in which they may mentally justify that they may lead a sinless life with Jesus Christ. The Bible declares that this is manifest delusion.

BrazilianSigMarxist #racist #sexist reddit.com

There are only three genders: male, female and Mongofoid. Therefore resorting to Mongofoids still make you incel if you are a heterosexual male, since Mongofoids do not have female secondary sex characteristics.

According to trans activists, gender and sex is not binary and occupies a wide and diverse spectrum. Not only is there male and female, but a heterogeneous range of intersex realities and identities.

Knowing that, should AF be included in the LGBTQIA+ community? Despite most of them having wombs and vaginas (decorated with extensive gray and brown beef curtains), most of them lack secondary sex characteristics that would alert the casual observer to their female status. They may have female genitalia but secondary female characteristics like breasts and feminine curves are strangely absent from this species.

Furthermore, their faces exhibit almost no femininity at all and an AF is indistinguishable from an AM when she adopts the same grooming as the average man. Their eyes are masculine and small, and bald in addition which emphasizes the manly nature of their face. This is not helped by their robust face shape and strong, square jaw. I have seen many white and black men who are much more facially feminine than AF despite having all the usual male characteristics.

Scientific studies have shown that it is actually possible to distinguish gay faces from straight faces by their relative divergence from the masculine or feminine norms of their gender. Gay male faces tend to be more feminine, while gay female faces tend to be more masculine. Scientists posit that this is due to prenatal hormonal influences.

Knowing that, should the divergent sexual characteristics of AF make them a seperate gender from normal women, and instead some sort of intersex gender that includes the worst traits of dyadic male and dyadic female?

Yes, there is sufficient argumentation and many straight men have already began to recognize AF as non-viable partners due to various factors like their intersex nature and inherent evil. In fact gender theorists have begun to hypothesize that AF are a non-linear element in the gender-sex spectrum and that male-male attraction is actually less gay than being with an AF, especially since plenty of gay males demonstrate some feminine characteristics in their physical appearance and manner of comportment.

By proposing this thesis I mean no insult to the LGBTQIA+ community, and maybe suggest that instead that AF be included in the MOGAI (Marginalized Orientations, Gender identities, And Intersex) community instead, which is populated with bestiality enthusiasts and weirdos who like to fuck under 12s. Unfortunately, AF run rampant in all countries and are not curtailed from their devious and disastrous activities like they should be, so it looks like the A in LGBTQIA+ stands for Asianfemale now.

Asexuals will just have to be content with being represented with +, and to be fair being surrounded by AF will make you asexual anyway.

12345 #fundie listverse.com

[Posted in an article listing 10 species related to the evolution of hominids]

I'm disgusted how dumb people are. A guy takes an actual progression of primate bones that you can witness changes in and sticks a homo-sapiens skeleton at the end which looks 100% different than any other skeleton in the line up, and you people don't even think to ask a single question? If humans evolved along side of these primates their wouldn't be any of our ancestors near the primates who would have fled away from being hunted by man. Plus old stories of humans claim we had to live underground. If this is true looking for our ancestors in a primate burial ground above ground in the wrong part of the world, is an obvious plight to control knowledge of history. This is why I laugh every time a scientist speaks about Atlantis. So called scientist have been looking for Atlantis, not where documents and legends say, but where Edgar Casey, a psychic, says it should be??? Scientist could have stuck Buzz Light Year at the end of the evolutionary scale and who would question it? Not any of you obviously. I'm so sick of people hiding behind science like a religion when they know 0 about it. Science is not a belief system it is a methodology of proving things false or true. Just because something escapes being proven wrong it does not mean it is true. And the same way if something has proven true so far it doesn't mean it is truth it just means humans don't understand how to test for truth. If they do I would love to see an example. No what science does is it takes situations that it already knows the outcome of and tests it. Einstein had an idea, relativity and he tested it and got results. Does anybody see the hypocrisy in that? Testing things you already know the outcome of? That would be like a scientist testing prayer knowing it won't work, and then rather than telling you prayer don't work they tell you it is proof that god doesn't exist. I'm using this example so you can see how they spin things. Testing for prayer has 0 to do with testing for god yet I have seen countless drooling science worshipers who think this study should get funding. Humans are 100's of thousands of years old and if our ancestors burned their corpses before they discovered mummification good luck sifting through dirt and ash to find the truth. Why do we have to be duped? We don't but everyone wants to buy BS. Why can't any of you realize we don't have the answers and we probably never will? Just think what a different world we would live in if people didn't flock to BS and every con man who says I have the answer? Look at primates and look at the length of their arms? Why are their arms longer that any homo-sapiens? Why are the arms missing or not shown on the evolution chart? Notice how they stick primate heads on human looking bodies on every history special, hmmm, but primates bodies are totally different and again their arms? Somebody really wants to convince you they know it all and they won because your tiny ego amongst other things just wants to pretend its better than everyone else for repeating lies. What do I know I was in science classes at Regis University in the 5th grade and was teaching elementary kids science by the time I was in middle school for a program called SIP. But all you bloggers who think you found a way to trash religion by repeating everything science says with out proof, you my friends are a new religion that will be used for dumbing down the population and new atrocities against your fellow man based on beliefs that have no foundation in reality. Theories.

WorldGoneCrazy #fundie disqus.com

Abortions are no longer to be regretted, they are to be celebrated as "empowerment" for women."

"A few wackos might think that way"

It's more than a few - it is the new talking point. But, I agree with you on the assessment of pro-aborts - they are whackos. :-) I surely do not want morals like yours. The kind that ignores the innocent human being who is being destroyed.

"But that isn't how I see what's going on."

It really does not matter how you "see it" - it matters what is true.

"And you don't like that, do you? You don't like being disagreed with."

No, I really do NOT like those who advocate and support the deaths of 3000 innocent babies each day in America. The fact that you disagree with me is irrelevant. Slave owners disagreed with abolitionists - it's not the disagreement that bothered abolitionists, it was the owning and mistreatment of black people.

"And you can cite a few scientists"

Haha - by "few" you mean almost all. Science-phobic, much? Here are 41 peer-reviewed citations (just take the spaces out):

http://www .lifenews .com/2015/01/08/41-quotes-from-medical-textbooks-prove-human-life-begins-at-conception/

"I promise you that you don't have consensus on this issue"

There was no consensus on slavery either. At one time, most people actually believed that blacks lacked personhood or were sub-human. You would have fit in quite well with them.

You just don't like it because basic science is against you and all you have left are feelings and emotions.

"It's complicated, each situation varies from person to person"

True for slavery too. You keep making my point but lack the self-awareness to recognize it.

" It's complicated, each situation varies from person to person, and you cannot simply sit back and cast judgment from your ivory tower that everyone's a murderous pro abort. I know that's what you're DOING, but it's very obvious to me and to others how ineffective it is. Going back to the roadside wackos who force people to look at pictures of dismembered fetuses again - you think that's an effective tactic? Because I promise you it's not."

The baby we saved last week says otherwise. :-) That was a last minute save - the mom came out 4 times before she chose life, and after she drove off, Dr. Death showed up within a couple of minutes!

Left up to you and yours (since I missed you on the sidewalk that day), that baby would be dead right now. Instead, we are showering this young girl with love and gifts. No thanks to you or your ilk who stand by why babies are mercilessly killed.

"but you're attempting to legislate your morality on everyone else"

Self-refuting. Roe forced abortion on 60 million innocent preborn babies by legislating from the bench. All laws legislate morality - it is just a question of whose. By your "logic," we should not have laws against rape, burglary, pedophilia, or murder.

Mark of Zorro #fundie jref.com

To answer the question of whether pedophilia is a sickness or a crime, it is neither. It is popular and common to use the word to mean both or either, but that is complete and total misuse of the concept and the word, and that misuse has a major effect in ensuring the very separate topics are not handled correctly or fairly in the slightest. And I have no hope that the knot of stupidity will ever be untied in my lifetime, because the topics are valued by so many people as topics where they can feel free to rant and not dedicate one ounce of critical thought. The whole thing is dominated by witch hunters and I have been attacked numerous times for daring to address related topics with fairness, justice and logic.

I will explain why it is neither a sickness or a crime. First, it is not a sickness because the only reason it causes mental distress is because of societal intolerance. The only kind of pedophilia I would call a sickness would be where its compulsive and the person just can't help themselves but to molest or rape children practically on sight. But that sort of pedophile is exceedingly rare, pretty much like serial rapists.

Your average run-of-the-mill pedophile, someone who simply prefers pre-pubescents as sex partners, would be perfectly happy if society left them free to date and have sex with who they wanted (as in Polynesian society before the Europeans came, or even American and British societies where the age of consent was ten for hundreds of years). So while some might call their desires sick, it does not mean they are sick. They are no more sick than homosexuals, and it took society and psychology a long time to conclude that homosexuals were not sick, and that delay was simply the product of societal taboo, same as with pedophilia today.

But it has to be said that a pedophile is best defined as someone who PREFERS prepubescents. Just finding yourself attracted to prepubescents does not make one a pedophile, because if that were true, 25 percent to 33 percent of all males would be pedophiles, and the word would lose all meaning.

Next, pedophilia is not a crime because pedophilia is not an act. Only acts can be crimes. Pedophilia is sexual preference, not an act. That is why I use the term "age of consent violation" rather than lump words like pedophilia, statutory rape and rape into one confusing jumble of overlapping concepts. Its just crazy to say that, for example, Mary Kay LeTourneau raped Villi Fualau. She didn't. They had consensual sex and they loved one another. In fact, they are now legally married. Its also crazy to say that Mary Kay is a pedophile. That is for many reasons. First, when they began sexual relations, Villi was not a prepubescent. So there is zero reason to think Mary Kay prefers prepubescents since she is not accused of ever sleeping with one. Next, she never even repeated her "crime" with another person underage, so she is certainly not compulsive in that sense.

Clearly what happened with Mary Kay is that she was in love. But some segments of society don't want to accept that and all others are too weak to speak against it. So Mary Kay gets labeled a pedophile out of hand and zero rational thought behind it.

All that said, I freely admit that Mary Kay is a bit off. I think she is compulsive, but just not toward underage boys. I believe her love is genuine, but allowing herself to get knocked up by a 13 year old, particularly when she has other children to care for, indicates someone without much foresight or self-control. The woman needed mental help for that. Instead, society gave her jail, all because witch hunters have contol of this topic.

So anyway, pedophilia is a sexual preference. A sickness would be compulsive pedophilia marked by a lack of self-control over the urge. A crime would be an age of consent violation, as that would be an act, as much as I think the label of crime is over-blown. Rape is just rape, hardly matters the age of the victim. The term statutory rape is absolute garbage and should be erased from the vernacular. And age of consent violations should be called precisely that, because calling consensual sex between a 15 year old and her 18 year old boyfriend as rape, pedophilia, sexual assault, or statutory rape is grossly and seriously unfair, injust and misleading to the point of me wanting to punch people's lights out.


The concept behind statutory rape is the general consensus from scientists that the brain is not developed enough to know the consequences of your actions at that age.

For starters, no, the concept of statutory rape began in the middle ages and no related legistlation, even modern, is based on any scientific study. Frankly, you just made that up.

Next, how does brain development translate into understanding the consequence of your actions? You cannot induce a baby into a coma, wake him up when he is 25, and expect him to understand the consequences of sticking his finger into a light socket even though his brain has fully developed.

My son is two years old. He understands the consequences of touching a hot stove.

In short, that whole brain development thing is complete red herring. The brain develops yes, but no one knows what effect that has on the decision making process. They only have guesses, and those guesses tend to conform toward agenda.

Further to that, if a child was refused a bicycle on the grounds of safety, how many people would say their parents are over-reacting? Kids ride around on bicycles all the time! Do you think they understand all the consequences, such as being hit by a car? Do you think they understand the dynamics of vehicular traffic well enough to truly be safe? Please! And a bicycle is more dangerous than sex.

How many 16 year olds are driving cars?! They could kill you. You could kill them. But if you loved them and had sex with them, there is some sort of massive danger??

That's subjective, of course, however I tend to believe that the law is more towards the younger end. Just out of personal experience, I have not met too many developed minds under 25.

The age of consent has only risen, and its now well beyond puberty, which is insane and unfair, as sex becomes an imperative after puberty.

I find it preposterous that anyone would consider an early teen to be mentally sound enough for sex with an adult.

So you are saying they are mentally sound enough for sex with eachother? Or are you saying they are raping, traumatizing and manipulating eachother? What do you mean by "mentally sound" anyway? What does it have to do with sex??


It's far too likely that such relationships are ones of manipulation.

Why? Why would you assume that any person's desire for a sexual relationship with a teen is based on manipulation? Do you think the human race is generally bent on manipulation? Do you know of any relationship based on manipulation?

For centuries teens were free to marry and age disparate couples were common. Many of our grandparents and great grandparents were in such a relationship. Now suddenly its wrong and all about manipulation?


I would question the ego of any adult that needs a relationship of manipulation.
So would I. But more than that I question your lack of faith in humanity. I do not believe that most people are out to manipulate the people they are attracted to, at least not maliciously. I do not believe that being minor attracted lends itself to a desire to manipulate maliciously.

In fact, if anything, I would say the tendency would be more toward a desire to protect and care for. But its usually the bad apples that get all the press isn't it? The news is rarely about people in love. So people who read the news tend to think people are evil at heart.

Power Point Paradise #fundie powerpointparadise.com

1. I'm not American! Nor a warmongering, Israel-worshipping, Evangelical Zionist Neo-Con! I'm a follower of Jesus Christ who deplores wars in Iraq, Libya, now Syria (& soon Iran). The sad fact is that much of U.S. & British Christianity was hijacked by unscriptural Scofield Bible supporters. "My Kingdom", Jesus said, "is not of this world, else would my servants fight that I should not be delivered to the Jews!" God's Kingdom is not the USA nor political "Israel."

2. I am no"Creationist!" I'm an apologist. One can't scientifically "prove" faith! Like other 'non-creationist' scientists like Newton, Einstein & others, I believe in Intelligent Design & Creation but cannot prove it to you, as neither Creation nor Evolution were ever observed by any of us. Actually there are more logical arguments for Intelligent Design!

3. I don't believe in evolution! It's a religion like the one saying the Earth was created on the back of an elephant! Evolutionists can act like the Inquisition, sensitive, bitterly persecuting people who bust their legend back to "religion masquerading as science!" Evolution was never observed! The theory is as wobbly as the "Big Bang" which was recently demoted to myth, when an undisputed Quasar was discovered IN FRONT of a Galaxy, falsifying the first pillar of Big Bang ideology. Read about it here!

4.The MAIN reason for the entrenchment of the theory of evolution is International Banker & Mainstream MEDIA support & the unpopularity of the only alternative! Evolution is a religion of UNbelief in a Designer, as otherwise people's style would be cramped by an Intelligent Designer! The purchase & take over of the Western Media by anti-God 20th Century Foxes ensured persecution of Christian thought, culture, & reasoning, and succesful proselytising of the masses by Atheism, Nihilism, Materialism, Socialism, Cultural Marxism & Evolution of course as a bogus Genesis. Hence the demise of Western Christendom ensued as night follows day. SEE Graphic!

5. Dragons are NOT legends nor myths! Dragons have more historical documentation than "dinosaurs" that don't have any! Dragons also have LOADS of fossils to back them up, for the plain & simple reason that since evolutionary highpriest Darwin started preaching, evolutionary religionists sponsored by Freemasons & New World Order Illuminists, hijacked our Dragon bones since 1875 & falsely re-christened them as "dinosaur fossils!" Of all things! Evolutionists then supplied these mythical "Dinos" with a 65 million year old myth that they were supposed to have died out in a selective disaster that didn't even kill off the more sensitive other "branches" of the legendary "evolution tree!" BALONEY! There is no archeological proof of such a feat, on the contrary... people not so long ago DID observe, see & FIGHT DRAGONS! Some were actually eaten alive by them!

6. I'm shocked by the ignorance on forums that link to us. Dudes unthinkingly parrotting what they see on TV, "learn" in school or from biased evolution spouting M.S. (Main Stream) Media, like National Geographic, Animal Planet, Discovery Channel, etc. They are gullible & uncritical of what is fed to them & get easily sown up in the forum's peerpressure by the "wise" guys who rule the forum & issue the watchword. The follower-types quickly aquiesce their true hunch that "something stinks in Denmark!" Wake up dude! You're being bullied "intellectually!" NOT?

7.The addiction to Mainstream Media! Dumbed down television slaves unthinkingly absorb Main Stream Media fodder and believe almost anything MSM- channels spew forth, like: "JFK was assasinated by a lone gunman", "Israel tried to sink The Liberty by mistake", "9-11 was done by 12 cave-dwelling Arabs with box cutters", & "Pearl Harbour was such a 'cool movie' Roosevelt didn't know long in advance the Japanese were planning to attack Pearl Harbour."
Most Western people are deceived by the Media, stressed out by the Matrix, unable to think for ourselves and became evolutionary Dino-worshippers.

8. One more thing. See this significant little BBC logo left? You've got to understand; Evolution was sponsored and designed to undermine your faith in your Supernatural roots and nature. Thus no more spirits, ghosts, angels, nor a Heaven for you! Whereas... millions of you did see ghosts, had angelic encounters, visions, milions of NDE experiences, visiting perfect Heavenly dimensions somewhere Out There proving Heaven is real! As Jesus said "In my Father's House are many mansions! IF it were NOT so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you, that where I am, you may be also!" Then he said: "If anyone believes in me, he has eternal life, and has passed from death into life!" "If anyone hears my voice & opens the door, I will come into Him and sup with him and he with me!" Don't you see? That's what their Media Info war is all about! To cut you loose from your spiritual moorings! Don't become their pawn, their useful idiot! Don't let them! Wake up out of your mass media induced stupor today!

Mike King #conspiracy tomatobubble.com

Now that global temps and an expanding South Pole ice cap can longer be used as evidence of catastrophic Global Warming, the Warmists have had to reach into their bag of tricks and pull out a new piece of unrelated data; dead oysters due to CO2-based "ocean acidification"! The Globo Times quotes Washington Governor Jay Inslee:

"Ocean acidification has the same cause as climate change, but it has been unsullied with the political controversy of climate change.”

So, it's not the melting ice caps and submerging of the Statue of Liberty that we have to worry about anymore. The same man-made CO2 (which amounts to just 1-2% of all CO 2 emissions!) that was once supposed to have frozen the planet (which it has not), and then burned up the planet (which it has not), and then caused an increase in deadly hurricanes, (which it has not) is now said to be killing our oysters. Ice Age, Global Warming, Climate Change, ......Ocean Acidification..."Yeah, that's it! CO 2 kills oysters. Prove us wrong!"

Though it is indeed true that the baby oysters of Washington State have been dying at a very unusual rate, one might want to at least consider the epic (and still ongoing) Fukushima nuclear disaster as a possible cause of problems in the Pacific Ocean. Or perhaps there is some other reason. But jumping to hasty conclusions in order to fit political agendas and pre-existing biases is what the Globo-Marxists, their bought & paid for superficial "scientists", and Sulzberger's NY Slimes all seem to specialize in.

From the Times article:

“We can attribute the problems in the oyster hatcheries to the increased carbon in the ocean,” said Terrie Klinger, a professor of Marine Affairs at the University of Washington."

Ms. Klinger, just how exactly do you know that "we can attribute the problems in the oyster hatcheries to the increased carbon in the ocean? What makes you so cock-sure? Well, that's the beauty of politicized "theoretical science". The Scientific Method does not apply to the Globalist-Marxist agenda. Ivory tower academics don't actually ever have to prove anything in order to continue feeding from the trough of government and foundation grants. All that a theoretical scientist needs do to keep the gravy train running is to provide his paymasters with the correct "answers" that he is looking for, and then shout (with finger wagging) "the science is settled" in the face of any "uneducated" skeptic.

Unlike a scumbag politician such as Inslee, or his billionaire paymaster Tom Steyer, or S;imy Sulzberger himself, we cannot judge whether Professor Klinger's conclusion is based on a deliberate attempt to deceive, or just a classic case of an egghead "scientist" not even being aware of her own cognitive biases (Observer Expectancy Bias). In either case, her hasty conclusions amount to sloppy science based on pure conjecture and logical fallacy.

Were the economic costs of junk science not so serious, Inslee's and Klinger's alarmist rants would indeed be comical.

Mack Major #fundie edendecoded.com

The darkness that is coming upon this world is real.

So real in fact that if you're not prepared to stand firmly in the Light of God , you will fall beyond the point of redemption. And you will be lost forever.

All throughout the Bible we are warned that a time of great darkness would be visiting us. And certain specific signs were given to let us know when that hour was near. Those signs are now all around us today.

The darkness will be so great in fact, that Jesus himself stated that unless those days were cut short NO FLESH would be saved. But for the sake of God's chosen people those days would indeed be cut short.

Are you prepared for what's coming?

Many of you don't know, but currently over in Switzerland there is a huge machine being prepared for full operation. It's called the Hadron Collider.

This machine is 17 miles in circumference and lies 300 feet below ground. Its name is CERN. Google it when you get a chance.

There is a huge statue of the Hindu deity Shiva out front of the entrance, posed as if doing the Nataraja dance; designed to illustrate the movements or "dance" of subatomic particles.

And we're supposed to think these experiments have nothing to do with peering into the spiritual realm, even though the chief scientist behind CERN has admitted they are expecting to find parallel realities, other dimensions and other intelligence once they fire this thing up.

Scientists from around the globe are collaborating on this venture to peer behind the veil and observe what is often termed as parallel realities or the God particle.

To put it simply: the God particle is the power that keeps the spiritual darkness from encroaching upon our world. It's what lies behind the veil between the natural and supernatural world: and the normal and paranormal world.

And these scientists plan on removing enough of this veil to collect and harness the dark matter that lies behind it. I'll say that again slowly: they...want...to...collect...DARK...matter.

When CERN was first fired up, very weird and strange things allegedly began taking place. Paranormal things. Strange apparitions began appearing. People and figures could be seen on the other side of the veil staring back at the scientists.

This is because CERN is really a portal to open up the spiritual realm and allow the demonic darkness from that realm to enter our own. Satan is really behind its design and mission.

CERN is a gateway that will allow the fallen angels spoken of in Genesis, Jude, and Revelation to finally be set free upon the Earth. I don't have the time or space to get too detailed about it here. Just google the info and read up on it yourself.

They've been telling us about this for some time now via movies. I always say that Satan reveals his plans through media programming. Movies are one of his greatest tools that allows his people to know exactly what he's up to.

If you've been watching movies like The Terminator, Avengers, The Matrix, The Mist, Stargate SG-1, Transformers and others, you've already seen what CERN can do. You just didn't realise that you were seeing it.

But he that has ears to hear, let him hear.

The goal is to open the veil enough to be able to capture what's known as dark matter: which accounts for most of the matter making up the known universe.

But dark matter has a habit of attracting other forms of dark energy to it. Such as demonic energy and evil thoughts. It draws on the dark energy within others and magnifies that darkness.

And scientists plan on being able to capture enough of this dark matter to finally understand the hidden aspects of our universe.

[...]

This is real people! Christians aren't crazy: we just had the game plan all along because God revealed it to us through His word. This info about CERN is easily googleable for those in doubt.

These people literally plan on unleashing something: and have even admitted they might just do that!

This is why I've been preaching so hard about abstaining from sexual sin. If you're still dipping and dabbling in sin when the greatest bomb in history gets released on the planet, how will you ever get right with God?

If you're still stuck on sin's frequency, you're wide open to being deceived by Satan, the Antichrist, and just about any other Christ-denying philosophy that's out there. Hence why you see so many people fussing and arguing against sound biblical doctrine.

Peter Dolinski #fundie theontarion.on.ca

Re: Faith Vs Atheism by Adam Morris, p 5, Ontarion April 10, 2008

I was pleasantly surprised by the respect that Adam Morris shows in his letter towards those with whom he does not share the same point of view in the ongoing debate of creationism vs evolution. I would like to bring some points to the debate I hope readers will find interesting.

There is a lot of purely scientific material that while not proving a creationist view strongly questions or refutes the concept of Darwinian evolution. Sadly as in the days of Galileo anything that challenges the day's dogma gets dismissed. There is no surer way to get vilified or lose funding than to challenge evolution. And no need to mention God once.

I could list here dime and a dozen questions that have been never answered properly, including those two, one of which got me an earful from a respected evolutionist.

1) How could an animal reprogram its DNA to switch from gills to lungs with all that it entails knowing well that a gradual shift is impossible?

2) Who was T-rex's ancestor?

To terminate a current observation. With the extinction or near extinction of a specie today, be it animal or plant, scientists deplore the fact that along the subject so will its genetic information go the way of ... the dinosaurs. Information that might be pertinent to fight some disease or weather some climates. Hmm... If evolution, creation, no pun intended, of new genetic information, was true then would it matter less... To question is to progress.

Peter Dolinski

Paul M. Dohse Sr. #wingnut #fundie paulspassingthoughts.com

“Please note, there is no such thing as hypocrisy in politics; all positions flow from ideology based on the political presupposition. Besides, who are you oh little person of the great unwashed to judge what is hypocrisy or not hypocrisy?”

Elitism is a result of sin, but this is a political post and not a religious one. Nevertheless, let me say that Elitism began in the garden. The serpent came to Eve and claimed to have more knowledge about God than she had. It can also be said that, clearly, the serpent claimed to have more knowledge about reality than Eve. Hence, caste was first introduced, and the serpent was presenting himself as a mediator between her and God. In addition, the serpent was claiming to have knowledge that would benefit her personally.

From this, Elitism was born. Those who have the superior knowledge should rule over those who have less knowledge because those with less knowledge are detrimental to humanity because of their ignorance. Socrates defined sin as ignorance.

Fundamentally, there are two different caste systems: freewill and predetermined. The latter dominated human history until the Enlightenment Era. Those of the Elitist class who should rule over the great unwashed are preordained in some way—usually by lineage. The British Crown is a good example.

America is based on a caste system, but there is a very important distinction that determines how free the people will be under such a caste system. In the American system, Elitism can be earned no matter who you are. This is freedom of upward mobility; this is the freewill caste system. In America, if you don’t like being treated like a loser by the Elitists, you can pursue an education and become one yourself. Remember, it is knowledge based; the perceived knowledge is the moral rule.

Better than both of these is Individualism. This is an organic body concept. To the degree that every individual is the best individual they can be, ALL people benefit. This would seem rather obvious. Think of a body and all of its cells. The 100 trillion cells that make up your body vary greatly in regard to the role they play, and their depth of intelligence and function. Even the most simple cells are well beyond being fully understood by scientists. To the extent that each cell is as healthy as it can be, human wellbeing is determined. In an individualist society, contributing to the success of every individual benefits all of the other individuals. America’s representative republic is based on Individualism while freewill caste is an unfortunate residual product of it.

Communism and Socialism flow from a predeterminant caste system. That is, those of the Elitist class are predetermined. There is no upward mobility for those not preselected. Elitism is defined by predeterminant caste.

Please note, there is no such thing as hypocrisy in politics; all positions flow from ideology based on the political presupposition. Besides, who are you oh little person of the great unwashed to judge what is hypocrisy or not hypocrisy?

Now, let’s put some feet on this. Nancy Pelosi is supposedly a hypocrite because she is for gun control but always protected by a heavily armed security detail that doesn’t have to abide by any gun laws like gun-free zones etc. That’s not hypocrisy at all, but merely a result of her Elitist ideology. According to her worldview; it makes perfect sense.

First, the great unwashed cannot be armed in case the Elitists have to do something they know is best for the whole of society that much of society might disagree with. Along with that comes necessary collateral damage that is outweighed by the greater good. Sure, you may have to watch your family being ravaged during a home invasion while defenseless, but that is unfortunate collateral damage for the greater good. In contrast, if an Elitist is lost, the world has less knowledge and leadership to protect the great unwashed from themselves. The absolute cardinal sin is the belief that individuals know what’s best for themselves. This, in the eyes of Elitists, puts all of society at risk.

In addition, the sole purpose of the individual is to serve the needs of the Elitists; in fact, their total life value is based on their ability to do so. The following excerpt makes this point aptly:

Sharon Osbourne is facing backlash after revealing she forced her former assistant into a burning building before firing him.

On a recent episode of the BBC game show, Would I Lie To You?, Sharon, 67, recalled that she and Ozzy, 71, were home for Christmas one year when their house became engulfed in flames from a candle they were gifted for the holiday.

“This alarm was ringing and ringing,” The Talk host said. “A fire alarm. I sent him [Ozzy] down. And so he went down, and suddenly I hear my name being called. ‘Sharon, Sharon, help me!’ “

“I went downstairs and there he was in the living room and his arm was on fire,” Sharon continued. “He had a sling on. And half his hair was all on fire.”
After noting that Ozzy’s assistant was still sleeping during the crisis, Sharon said that she used a magazine to try and stop the fire on Ozzy’s shirt and hair, but to no avail.

“So then outside there was a fountain,” she explained. “I pushed Ozzy out and then the arm and his hair stopped. And then I think ‘Right, where is that assistant?’ So I go into the guest house and he’s going, ‘Everything Alright?’ and I’m like ‘No, house is on fire. Get out, help. Go in and get the paintings out.’ “

“There were dogs, and I said ‘You must go in and find the dogs,’ ” she recalled telling the assistant. “So he did get the dogs, and the fire engines arrive. Very lovely people. They came and they had this oxygen for the assistant. So then I said to him ‘How very dare you, you work here, and you get more paintings out right now.’ “

“I took the mask and I put it on my dog,” Sharon said, which earned applause and laughter from the judges and audience. She then explained the moment she decided to fire her husband’s assistant.

“After this terrible night, he was not talking to me,” Sharon recalled. “And Ozzy and I were counting everything and we were laughing and laughing and he goes ‘I don’t see what’s funny about any of this. I think I am going to have damaged lungs.’ “

“So then, I just said ‘If you don’t think that’s funny, do you think this is funny?’ And he said, ‘What?’ And I said, ‘You’re fired,’ ” Sharon said, again receiving applause and laughter from the studio.

When it came time for the judges to guess if the shocking story actually occurred, all three predicted it was true — which Sharon confirmed.
Following the revelation, fans flocked to social media to express their disappointment in Sharon.

A rep for Sharon did not immediately return PEOPLE’s request for comment.

Though many are shocked by this testimony from Osbourne, they shouldn’t be; the sum and substance of an individual’s life is determined by their ability to serve the Elitists according to their worldview.

Be sure of this: Elitist rule will rob us of all freedom if we allow it to have political power; Elitism is freedom’s greatest enemy.

paul

whale.to #conspiracy whale.to

[Cell phone (also Tetra & Power) towers are safe is a well proven lie (1, 2) (so they know) to go with numerous other long standing lies where the truth has been suppressed, such as the 200 year old vaccine one (see), while the towers have been placed as if they were as safe as small trees, often deliberately right next to schools (see) when safer placements are easily available (see Gorebridge for example, where the TV and Police masts are way out of town). Their main function appears to be the spread of DOR, part of the Covert genocide agenda. Shown a larger tower spec, an electrical engineer put it's output at 576 KWH. Transmitters at microwave frequencies normal only require a max of 1.0 watt, not kilo watts.1 The normal tower has 5 thumb thick cables running up the mast from the power supply. One tower in central Birmingham next to a Mosque had 12 such cables, when something no bigger than a pencil would do the job. There is one mast/unit per 2,000 people, and you can drive across open untowered country to find one in the town edge among houses as if their range was miles, and not many thousands a satellite can deliver from, and according to someone who visited Russia he couldn't see any towers at all, so satellites must be delivering those signals.
Tetra is another highly suspicious addition (1, 2, 3), along with the deaths of 22 Marconi scientists suggesting a mind control function in addition to disease inducing. Their big brother surveillance function has been revealed (1, 2) which is another red flag. You would be a damn sight more surprised if they weren't up to another poisoning agenda at the very least, to go with all of their other poisonings, and assorted nefarious plots. Eg HAARP, Aspartame, Fluoride, Chemtrails, and a spectacular breaking of cover with Depleted Uranium. Not forgetting 911, drugs, wars....
Luckily any diabolical plot has been zapped by Orgonite which kills all DOR, what looks to be the only, or main danger to humans WinkWink. ]

HopefulNChrist #fundie baptistboard.com

I can infer the "truth" about the de-evolution theory by the 2nd law of Thermodynamics than you can for macroevolution, but that is a mocking sarcasm against the "preponderance of evidence" reasoning for the evolution theory. Do men act like apes around females? Do not many witnesses, both men and women, will attest to men behaving like Neanderthals? Do law enforcements testify to men acting like Cro-Magnum men when subduing females against their will for mating? One can observe and prove the de-evolution theory quite well by such a preponderance of evidence and yet we know it is not true, right?

Science cannot prove the age of anything by their dating method when it goes past known human history since they are errant dating results as proven by history and even in the present day; example; a living mollusk is carbon dated as 2,300 years old "dead". So how can any one take stock in their dating methods past human history? No self respecting scientists can.

And when the errant dating methods does not meet their evolutionary time table or find a fossil out of place as found with fossils in according to their geographical evolutionary time table, they conveniently place it in according to the evolutionary time chart.

Evidence of this is how fossilized whale bones and other fossilized marine life were found on the top of the Andes Mountains buried "TOGETHER" with fossilized land animal bones like the extinct Gibbon. The "scientists" testify that they can just bend over and pick them right up, but to counter them being buried together, they spun the tale in presenting the evidence in according to the evolutionary time table by saying that the mountains rose suddenly from the sea, trapping marine life by doing so, and yet offer no explanation for the fossilized land animal bones that were found buried together with the fossilized marine life.

WHALE FOSSILS HIGH IN ANDES SHOW HOW MOUNTAINS ROSE FROM SEA

The scientific fact about the reservoir effect where marine life will absorb carbon 14 at a lower rate than land animals seems to be purposefully overlooked in favor of presenting these preponderance of evidence. That means they would get a different dating result by those fossilized bones on that mountaintop buried together. See the evidence of the Biblical global flood yet?

They are now changing the time table from when they said that birds evolved from dinosaurs to now.. dinosaurs had evolved from birds. Would birds in flight receive a higher absorption of carbon 14 than land animals? In any event, what they had said formerly as being a fact or true, they are now changing their "facts" or the "presentation" of the evidence but still only within the parameters of the evolution theory.

When our government gives grants to those that try to prove the evolution theory, you can suspect any proposals for grants to be geared towards that effect when their livelihood is at stake.

Now if that false science is not circumspect enough, Jesus's words testify to Noah's flood as a real time event as a warning to believers to be ready or else because Peter warned of a fiery judgment was coming in 2 Peter 3 rd chapter also in relation to Noah's flood.

Jesus validated the first marriage. He validated the reason behind the creation of the sabbath day. He warned believers in regards to how God has judged the world by the flood in Noah's days and judged the cities of Sodom & Gomorrah of that coming judgment of destruction that will occur after His appearing for why they are to be ready & willing to go or else.

No genetic information has ever been observed as being added to a living organism. It will never happen. The Law of Biogenesis sees to that as life cannot come from nothing; life comes from similar life, but evolutionists keeps glossing over that law because they coined the term microevolution from that law to make macroevolution "look" plausible. It is a deception.

So you either believe Jesus's words or you believe the ever changing words of fallible men by their fallible devices for what that false science that is the evolution theory is all about; the world withholding the truth in unrighteousness.

James L. Melton #fundie av1611.org

Now we come to the wonderful world of TAXONOMY, where cartoon charts are used to artificially classify bones in order to "prove" evolution. This is where evolutionists develop a "disneyland" mentally and construct a chart which shows the earth to be about 4.5 billion years old. Then they proceed to divide this chart up into various time frames containing hundreds of millions of years each. As new discoveries are found, the scientists conveniently place them at selected places on the chart.

This would be a dandy little system, except for one minor problem: THEY'VE NEVER PROVEN THE ORIGINAL CHART! It's nothing more than blind guesswork. No one has ever proven that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. The chart is NOT scientific. In fact, many scientists believe that the earth isn't over 6,000 to 10,000 years old! Of course, all opposing views are ignored by evolutionary scientists, for they need a nice big time period in which to place their new findings. You've heard of people "buying time?" Well, evolutionists just DREAM IT UP.

Another "proof" for evolution is COMPARATIVE ANATOMY, the belief that similar bone structures prove animal kin through evolution. That is, if two different animals have similar bone structures, then they must have evolved from the same original ancestors. Of course, this is more

nonsense. Any scientist knows perfectly well that many such bone structures are produced by entirely DIFFERENT GENES, thus proving that they are in NO WAY RELATED! In fact, if similar bone structure proves anything, it proves that these animals were created by the same God!

Hunter Lewis #conspiracy mises.org

CDC, PHARMA, And Mainstream Media On The Same Team

Unfortunately this team seems to be covering up a possible risk to children, especially black children.

For years, some parents of autistic children have claimed a link between their children’s condition and vaccines. One vaccine in particular has been mentioned: the MMR (Mumps, Measles, and Rubella).

The Center for Disease Control of the United States has consistently denied any MMR/autism connection. In congressional testimony and elsewhere, it has cited a 2004 study of its own published in Pediatrics.

Now one of the authors of that study, William W. Thompson, a senior scientist employed by the CDC, has admitted that critical data from the study was suppressed. Thompson released the following statement through his lawyer: “ I regret that my coauthors and I omitted statistically significant information in our 2004 article published in the journal Pediatrics. The omitted data suggested that African American males who received the MMR vaccine before age 36 months were at increased risk for autism.”

It’s Hard to Believe in Vaccines Contaminated by Crony Capitalism

The larger problem here is that the government either develops a new vaccine itself and licenses it to a private company or subsidizes the development by a private company. It then receives payments for testing the product as well as possible licensing fees if the product is approved. The same government promotes the vaccine to the states and often ensures that it is mandated for school children.

This system is obviously fraught with conflicts of interest. The party that develops the vaccine should not do the approving. The approving agency should not receive payments depending on approval. This situation would not be hard to fix if government would embrace a few obvious and much needed reforms.

It would help us get the reforms if the mainstream media would come out of its foxhole and report on the problems. The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, NPR, and other mainstream outlets have refused to touch the CDC researcher’s startling admission. Why? A possible explanation is that the mainstream media today is completely dependent financially on drug company advertising. And it is drug companies that make vaccines.

The Recent Cover Up

So how serious was the cover-up of data relating to black children described by the CDC’s Dr. Thompson? How much increased risk for autism was associated with the vaccine?

One scientist, Dr. Brian Hooker, sought the complete study data for a decade and finally got it with the help of Congress. He reported that the raw data suggested a 340% increase in autism among African-American males vaccinated at the recommended age. Others have already challenged this number, and it is still unclear exactly what the newly revealed data will show.

“Dr. Thompson told Dr. Hooker over the phone: “It’s the lowest part of my career, that I went along with that paper.” Thompson revealed that he did not know Dr. Hooker was recording the conversation but did not deny making the statement.

We must also keep in mind that the controversy so far is about the age of vaccination. Children vaccinated before 36 months are being compared to children vaccinated a little later. What is really needed is a study of children given the MMR and other vaccines versus children who have not received the shot at all. For whatever reasons, the government has not done this.

The CDC has instead claimed that the case against vaccines in general is closed. Quite apart from Dr. Thompson’s startling new testimony, there have been reasons to doubt this. For example, a review of the literature in Immunotoxicoloy by the respected researcher Helen Ratajczak has raised many questions. Dr. Thompson agrees that there are still questions that need answering.

“I will do everything I can to assist any unbiased and objective scientists inside or outside the CDC to analyze data collected by the CDC or other public organizations for the purpose of understanding whether vaccines are associated with an increased risk of autism. There are still more questions than answers, and I appreciate that so many families are looking for answers from the scientific community.’ “

At least one observer has compared the CDC’s refusal to publish pertinent and potentially alarming data related to the health of black newborns to the Tuskegee Experiment.

In that infamous case, black males were cold-bloodedly denied treatment for syphilis without their knowledge in order to study what would happen to them.

The controversy over the 2004 paper has also given rise to new charges. One of them is that the CDC knows of potential harm to newborns from flu shots administered to pregnant women, but won’t publish the data or review its recommendation of the shot. These allegations are too new to assess and like the MMR controversy should be studied by objective scientists, if they can be found.

Worries about the CDC have also circulated for years about its handling of the HPV vaccine for genital warts. This vaccine, developed by government scientists and licensed to Merck, is intended to prevent cervical cancer. The head of the CDC, Julie Gerberding, who gave it to Merck, is now president of Merck’s vaccine division.

Colleen Pater #fundie unz.com

I suppose I should take solace that the enemy has bad intelligence, Its still disturbing though how they always reach the conclusions they want and are so clueless.
Its hard to define the alt right because the media hysterics and cluelessness led a lot of non cuckservative and cuck lite people to think it was they who were meant by alt right. And before that the White nationalists and neonazis had slid in under the altright brand as a remake.Then theres quite a lot of non cucked right who are clear they are not alt right but the left will insist are because they actually think anyone to the right of, Che? is a nazi, well who knows it changes so fast. These would include the paleos, the teas the BB, the neoreactionaries, and others.

Whats going on is simple, Liberalism is at the end of the road.Its ridiculous absurd. Its been creating ever more bizarre reasons why it never works as predicted for decades,centuries.While many wise people even hundreds of years ago could see the inherent evil, it took this long for it to get to the point even some kid on the street will declare the empire has no clothes.Liberalism is not only very explicit about its intentions to genocide whites, its begun to eat its own. Its lost all discipline, and cant help constantly exposing its genocidal tendencies.
Worse its all happening while other trends are working against it. there debt thats so absurd it cant even be rationally conceived, as a result of the liar loans to make minorities equal through free houses theres now and the subsequent crash and QE theres not a quadrillion in credit default swaps out there more than ten times the amount that caused the crash.The internet shorted out the lefts stranglehold on thought and now they are reduced to stalinist suppression tactics, immigration mostly illegal or quasi illegal throughout the white world has been so absurdly bad in every single possible way its become crystal clear that was the design, its also clear the left and global corporatists have merged, while this may have had strategic advantages its optics work against the lefts marketing, and this is a huge problem the left is increasingly exposed as a naked grab for power by any means possible. its constantly in alliances and positions that are illiberal, whether championing islam, enforcing speech codes, having its largest power brokers be the billionaire class, and opposing democratic self determination like Brexit,Catalan,Trump,Scotland etc.
And its very foundations are being rocked by reality.Democracy is increasingly shown to be more like a cultural quirk than the end of history.The all men are created equal expansion has come up against the reality the certainly are not.To keep the truth from coming out on that and all sorts of supposed truths science has been whored out to such shocking extents that besides it being taken about as seriously as fake news its increasingly alienated scientists who for now try to keep their heads down to eat but are seething in many quarters at the commie humiliation tactics. This of course is just another undermining factor in the lefts always dubious claim to be the side of reason.
Leftism was bound to be tried, enough things had not caught up to new information that reasonable people thought perhaps; perhaps black people oughtn’t be slaves, perhaps they could be cultivated to the standard of the whites, perhaps women needn’t be under men’s authority, perhaps every stupid person with a pulse ought to be allowed an equal voice in the decisions of a nation, perhaps its wise to discard thousands of years of human wisdom and wing it, perhaps nations needn’t be ethnically homogenous, perhaps a secularized christianity will work better,and thousands of other experiments.
Every last scrap of it has by now been proved patently untrue so many times and then retried and failed so many times its a joke,
Halloween is the 500 anniversary of Martin Luthers little tantrum.Leftisms done stick a fork n it

Franko #fundie libertydwells.com

Dr. Schweitzer CAN'T come to any other conclusion because she is trapped. The possibility that the bones are not millions of years old can not be entertained, NO MATTER WHAT THE EVIDENCE IS - even if it's screaming in her, or any other believers in long ages of evolution's, face. The Priests of Evolution will not allow it. Dr. Schweitzer needs grant money, and anyone who goes against the grain will lose their funding also.

The obvious conclusion, if one has no bias, is that the bones can not possibly be anywhere near 68 million years old. The only reason to claim that the bones are that old is by faith in the religion of evolution, not by scientific observation.

So how old are the bones? No one can know for sure, but OBSERVATIONAL SCIENCE says they are not millions of years old. Any other suggestion would be one of faith, not science.


So when scientists claim to know that dinos died out 68 million years ago, I know they are wrong. They should know they are wrong, but they refuse to entertain the idea, they are in denial. They can't let science take them where it leads, they have blinders on.

Mike Pence #fundie rightwingwatch.org

Mr. Speaker, I've always been interested in origins. Even though my training is in the law and in history, it has ever been an application of mind to contemplate and to study the origins of man and of life here on earth and many theories of origins have been propounded throughout our nation's history.

1859, a sincere biologist returned from the Galapagos Islands and wrote a book entitled "The Origins of Species", in which he did then Charles Darwin offered a theory of the origin of species which we've come to know as evolution. Charles Darwin never thought of evolution as anything other than a theory. He hoped that someday, it would be proven by the fossil record but did not live to see that, nor have we.

1925, in the famous Scopes Monkey Trial, this theory made its way through litigation into the classrooms of America and we all have seen the consequence over the last seventy seven years. Evolution not taught as a sincere theory of biologists but rather, Mr. Speaker, taught as fact. Unless anyone listening in can doubt that, we can all see in our mind’s eye that grade room classroom we all grew up in with the linear depiction of evolution just above the chalkboard. There's the little monkey crawling on the grass, there's the Neanderthal with his knuckles dragging and then there's Mel Gibson standing in all of his glory. It is what we have been taught that man proceeded and evolved along linear lines.

But now comes a new find by paleontologists in the newspapers all across America, a new study in Nature magazine. 6 to 7 million year old skull has been unearthed - the Toumaï skull - and it's suggested human evolution was actually, according to a new theory, human evolution was taking place, and I'm quoting now, "all across Africa and on the Earth" and the Earth was once truly, and I quote, “a planet of the apes” on which nature was experimenting with many human-like creatures. Paleontologists are excited about this, Mr. Speaker, but no one's pointing out that the textbooks, I guess, will need to be changed because the old theory of evolution taught for seventy-seven years in the classrooms of America as fact is suddenly replaced by a new theory or, I hasten to add, I'm sure will be told a new fact. The truth is it always was a theory, Mr. Speaker.

And now that we've recognized evolution as a theory, I would simply and humbly ask that can we teach it as such and can we also consider teaching other theories of the origin of species, like the theory that was believed in by every signer of the Declaration of Independence. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence believed that men and women were created and were endowed by that same creator with certain unalienable rights.

The Bible tells us that God created man in his own image, male and female he created them and I believe that, Mr. Speaker, I believe that God created the known universe the earth and everything in it, including man, and I also believe that someday, scientists will come to see that only the theory of intelligent design provides even a remotely rational explanation for the known universe. But until that day comes, and I have no fear of science I believe that the more we study the science the more the truth of faith will become apparent, I just would humbly ask as new theories of evolution find their ways into the newspapers and into the textbooks, let us demand that educators around America teach evolution not as fact but as theory and an interesting theory to boot. But let's also bring into the minds of all of our children all of the theories about the unknowable that some bright day in the future through science and perhaps through faith, we will find the truth from whence we come and I yield back.

Yankee Goy #racist realjewnews.com

Pamela Geller, Atlas Shrugs is one of the key persons who scapegoats Muslims, some who do awful things tis true, but she glorifies Jews and Israel nonstop too, and Muslims are used as misdirection from the broader evil.

For example she had a few articles on Muslim organ trafficking but ignore all those Israeli rabbis arrested for organ trading, and all the Palis and US soldiers coming back without their innards.

French scientists showed huge liver and mammary tumors in rats who ate GMO grains and corn, which Monsanto is pushing world wide. I would suspect it's Israel/JWO behind this to kill off the 600 million Whites, followed by about 7 billion Goyim for their JWO-Jerusalem nirvana goals.

We pay Israel to plot mass genocide of Goyim. All Jews know this. You can't absolve a Jew who just acts nice or humble, because they all know this. I bet the only non-GMO grain is sold at kosher stores.

J. Warner Wallace #fundie coldcasechristianity.com

Why I’m Not a Theistic Evolutionist

I’m delighted to get the chance to teach at one of my favorite local churches in about a week. The topic will be Genesis 1:1 and what is, in many ways, the most important verse of Scripture: “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” I’ll be talking about some things we can know with certainty (related to God’s creative work in the universe and in biological organisms) and some things that we know with a bit less certainty (as I review many of the ways Christians have interpreted Genesis 1 through the ages). While I am respectful of some of the efforts to understand precisely what Moses was trying to communicate in this text, there is one view of creation that I find difficult to accept. From my perspective, theistic evolution appears to be a contradiction in terms.

I’m not the first person to notice this, but I’d like to explain why so many of us have difficulty embracing this view of creation from a simple survey of the definitions. When scientists and theologians are allowed to define their own respective terms, they provide definitions that seem diametrically opposed. The textbook definitions illustrate the problem:

ev·o·lu·tion [ev-uh-loo-shuhn] “Change in the gene pool of a population from generation to generation by such processes as mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift.”

The changes occurring as a result of evolution are caused by three forms of unguided (or random) interaction (mutation, natural selection, and genetic drift). The unguided nature of these mutations (and the environmental circumstances that come to bear on them) is foundational to the definition of evolution. This quality of randomness is incompatible with a theistic view of the universe. Theists believe an all-powerful Creator is engaged in the process that brought everything into existence. This creative Being actually creates stuff and the act of “creating” is not an unguided process:

cre·ate [kree-eyt] “To cause to come into being, as something unique that would not naturally evolve or that is not made by ordinary processes.”

The definition calls for a unique and specific creative act of guidance that is specifically differentiated from an evolutionary or “ordinary” (“natural”) process. This aspect of guided creativity is foundational to the nature of the Being proposed by Theists. The problem, therefore, seems to arise with any attempt to synthesize or unify these two divergent terms. Think about it for a minute; theism is all about guided creation, evolution is all about unguided causation. When we put the two ideas together, it’s the equivalent of saying:

the·is·tic ev·o·lu·tion
“The creatively guided, specific, process of unguided, random causation”

See the problem? In order for this term to make any sense at all, someone needs to modify or surrender their term. Evolution has to take on an aspect of guidance and direction, or theistic creativity has to allow for the random lack of guidance. I doubt that either side is willing to compromise on the very attributes that lie at the foundation of their claims. So while there may be a number of ways to interpret the precise meaning of the Genesis account, I doubt that theistic evolution is one of them.

Cameron Ramirez #fundie facebook.com

lol tell me of one scientist that knows exactly what happend back then that you should give oh SO MUCH respect to them, uhhhhhooo NOOOOoo..... ohhh noo.... I said that they just come up with hunches.... oooohhh noooo.... mind-bogglingly stupid and ignorant posts, dude I love ya bro, tell me how an explosion would occur with no oxygen. Acutally dont, this is so rediculous, dude we are the generation when Christ is going to come back for us and when he does your going to remember this message I sent you and your gunna reap what you sow, just flat out facts. DUDE i love you bro, no joke, the best thing is helping and seeing a lost sheep come back to the herd with the Shepherd. Duddde Remeber this and when the time goes, I hope you will have changed your life and way of thinking. I'll pray FOR YOU!!

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