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Irredento #fundie #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

Look, Christians do not hate gays, we in fact love them. When I say this, I truly mean it. Rather than trying to oppress them, what we are in fact doing is more akin to an intervention to help those whom we love stop living such an unhealthy and morally damaging lifestyle. They might not be hurting other people, but I do not think it is any coincidence that mental illness is many degrees worse among homosexuals, especially transgenders, than others, nor can I bring myself to ignore the fact that a disproportionate amount of them were molested as children, and it would be wilfully ignorant for me to pretend that homosexual promiscuity is not responsible for the spread and proliferation of AIDS and HIV around the world, along with many other lesser STDs due to the fact that homosexuals are so much more promiscuous and prone to unsafe sex than sexually healthy people. Finally, and most importantly of all, as Christians we must accept Bibical truth wherever possible, even if modern society disdains the truth, and so even if we end up living in a world in which gay "marriage" is legal in every part of every nation, all good Christians will continue to shout from the rooftops that this is wrong. The fact that all these social and health problems have arisen as a result of the acceptance of homosexuality as "normal" serves to show that, once again, the Word of God is indeed the best rulebook by which to run society and live one's life.

Sometimes, it is right to help someone even if they are only harming themselves. Just as I would want to see a heroin addict kick his habit, I also want to see homosexuals kick their habit. You are almost certainly the same on other issues that have not yet been pushed upon you since youth by the media. Take incest for example. I assume you are not a proponent of brothers and sisters legally having sex and even marrying simply because they are "consenting adults" who "aren't hurtning anyone"? Or what about bestiality? Before you tell me that "animals can't consent", consider the case of a man on Loveline who described how he "presents" and lets his dog enter him from behind. The very act is initiated by the dog and therefore is consensual. Is this sort of thing okay to you? Can you support this just because the dog and the man are having consensual sex and "aren't hurting anyone"? Please consider all of these things as well as all the other possible sexual perversions out there that could someday be argued are "normal" for the same reasons you currently believe homosexuality to be healthy and non-damaging. Sometimes, even if it might hurt their feelings, we must do all that is within our power to save a person. I care a lot more about the eternal soul of people caught up in the gay lifestyle than I do about their hurt feelings between now and their redemption.

Lebanon Christian Republic #fundie forum.nationstates.net

*in response to a post containing a very long list of links that contain evidence for evolution*

Wouldn't surprise me if half those sources are funded by George Soros, the Smithsonian and the Rockefeller Foundation among other globalist yolk.

I really suggest you look deeper into who funds them.

Irredento #fundie forum.nationstates.net

*Speaking of the Catholic Church*

What makes you think that? They've abandoned the traditional Latin Mass in the West and Greek Mass in the East (Divine Liturgy as you call it) along with many of the old Catholic dogmas that we shared with our Orthodox and Anglican brothers while attempting to be more like Protestants in an attempt to win them over. In these attempts at appeasement, we are losing what it means to be Catholic, what it once meant to be a member of the Church that was founded by Christ down through Peter and his successors.

The new Pope's endorsement of the welfare state and his tolerance of homosexuality and so on are just the beginning of a whole new sort of decline that will end in complete irrelevancy for the Church.

Quintium #racist forum.nationstates.net

*In a discussion about perceived racism against whites, another poster claims that Europeans will become minorities in their own countries in the space of 50 years*

And I hope it happens quickly. It's all a matter of action and reaction. When that happens, that'll be the day Europeans really wake up. We oppose mass immigration now, by and large, but eventually we'll just snap - not because we want to, and not out of hate, but because we will see the end of our cultures and ethnic groups if we don't snap. Of course, it'll start way before that. The riots we've seen in France, the United Kingdom and Sweden were just precursors of what will happen in the coming decades. It'll all get more violent, especially as our governments are now finding themselves painfully short of money for the welfare state, on which enormous numbers of non-western immigrants rely for their income. These 'incidents' will start becoming more and more common and it'll start becoming apparent that non-western immigrant groups usually have no respect for our rights and that our own governments are completely incapable of protecting us.

Lingang #fundie forum.nationstates.net

*This is a reply to a post saying: "The fact that creationism still exists as an entity, is a shame for the entire human race. Science is the future, but how can we get there when creationists drag us down. Let them teach all they want in their homes and at the pulpit, but not in our schools."*

What can we do about them? Nothing really. That same mentality was used by a certain group of people towards another less than a century ago, and before one of them thought to murder them, they thought, "The fact that Jews still exist as a race, is a shame for the human species. Nordics are the future, but how can we get there when Jews drag us down." Not suggesting that your implying that, but just referencing.

United Turks #fundie forum.nationstates.net

I don't see anything wrong here.Everyone shares a different opinion and nobody can force them to change their views and morals.But here I see ''intelligent'' and ''liberal'' people are verbally oppressing the minorty and that...is wrong.Why not respect our opinions?So what if one third of Americans don't believe in evolution?It's their ideal,view and opinion.

(note that the "oppression" in question is complaining that 1/3 of Americans believe in creationism)

Verdum #fundie forum.nationstates.net

My opinion? Honest and for true?


I have, in all my time, never liked LGBT rights and the whatnot. We have a family friend who is a lesbian, when I was 16 my mother brought one of her gay friends home and I was VERY afraid he was hitting on me, and throughout my life there has been one pervasive thought:
This. Is. Wrong.

My story:
My grandfather, his name will obviously not be disclosed, fought on the loosing sight of WWII with his brother who got the short end of the stick and was sent to the Eastern front. Now your probably wondering why the holy hell this matters, and I shall tell you. While there he was killed and, upon receiving the news, my great grandmother died. Now my grandfather, who was apparently very nice before that, was just enraged. Blame blame and more blame was pretty much the story, and he turned from a normal Wehrmacht soldier to a very angry Nazi.

When the war ended he stayed in Germany until 1973(West) when he moved to Indiana with his wife where my uncle was born then later my father, both of them pretty much given the same ideals as my grandfather. If your starting to see a chain reaction here good on you, because it's not going to be changing much. When I was very young I was in the Vernon town park and I saw two guys kissing and upon witnessing it my comment to my father on the topic was so OUTRAGEOUS I got sent to my grandparents house for a bit of education.


So, if you bothered reading the story, here is the outcome.

I don't like LGBT people that much, and I can stand talking to you on the internet because we are not face to face. It's wrong, I have been educated to believe it is wrong, and I will never accept it.

Verdum #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(LGBT thread. Emphasis mine)

And I was going to shut up, too.

My grandfather may have started it, but noone can say we didn't fuel the fire. Everything he said we ate up like a starving wolf eats a steak, and his whole "brotherhood" speech really got us going. I grew up with a family full of this, and apparently most of the children in my school when I was a boy did too.

I am intolerant, I will never deny it, but I am proud. I am proud of who I am, I was taught to be proud of my race and what we could be, and I was taught that it is just wrong for the same sex to perform sexual actions with the same gender. Maybe if someone had managed to make me believe it was acceptable way back when, but honestly at this point this is what I believe. I also would like to add that the whole "I can stand you because I cant see you" holds true for MANY people on here, most of these not even involving LGBT.

I tried going on that Pope Liri's thread of fabulous or whatever, but I was just awkwardly trying to fit in the entire time. I eventually made a joke I thought everyone would laugh about, but obviously it was just another chance for the mods to pin the tail on the neo Nazi like I know they enjoy.

Marquette of Pacific #fundie forum.nationstates.net

If the Devil makes people homosexual, he makes people heterosexual too.

I sure as fuck wasn't born heterosexual. If I was, then why is it that I get a boner from thinking about guys and not girls? If all people are naturally heterosexual, then why is it that I have no natural attraction to people of the opposite sex? Answer me that.

For the umpteenth time, you've just succumbed to sin and temptation. I have succumbed to temptation for men multiple times, and I really wish I could just go spend the rest of my life with another guy, but the fact is that I can't. I can't because my God says so, and I obey him.

Quintium #racist forum.nationstates.net

*In response to a poster saying that he had never met self-hating Europeans*

They won't directly say it. But there are tell-tale signs for the disease I call oikophobia.

- They dismiss, as in this thread, the achievements of Europeans as luck at best and ruthless thievery at worst;
- They take a position of dogmatic denial in any issue of race and intelligence, and will dogmatically deny rather than investigate any of it;
- They repeat the tropes that were taught in Western European state schools in the past fifty years ("Islam is pro-science", "Islam is tolerant", "all cultures are equal", "reality has a liberal bias")

I suppose what I'm trying to say here is that they are not critical, or curious, but dogmatic. They adhere to one position because they have been socialised or conditioned to adhere to that one position and dismiss all others. Those people exist on both sides, but with the state education of the past fifty years the dogmatic self-hater has become a lot more common.

Northfront #fundie forum.nationstates.net

Hey, I am actually on gay people's side here. I know some. Many of them are crazy like you, but then again others are very nice people.

The surest way to increase hatred against gays is to do what happens now in USA. Big Gay mafia pushing that propaganda and brainwashing normal people's children to think that being gay is normal, ok or even more cool than being normal hetero. It is not. Face the truth. Homosexualism is mental disorder. Has always been and always will be.

Northfront #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.

Nevanmaa #racist forum.nationstates.net

*Discussion on the late Nelson Mandela*

I can't say I'm sad at all. The man responsible for deaths of hundreds in dozens of terrorist attacks, including the Church Street bombings, deserves no pity from me. A man so violent that he refused to work towards co-existence peacefully, instead resorting to murdering innocent white men, women and children deserves nothing but a spit in the face. Not even Amnesty International recognized him as a political prisoner, and for a good reason.

Mandela and his ANC goons single-handedly destroyed South Africa, sending crime rates, inflation and white emigration through the roof, not to mention he's responsible for Afrikaner cultural holocaust and genocide and an institution of a de facto single party state. I don't see why anyone would consider his legacy even remotely good. Mandela was an evil, pathetic little man whose power fantasies led not only to deaths of hundreds of innocents, but an end to one of the most prosperous nations in Africa.

As Margaret Thatcher once said, "ANC is a terrorist organization and Mandela is a terrorist". It's ironic that history eventually showed how right she was.

God Kefka #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(The topic is someone running a bakery loses a lawsuit after refusing to make a wedding cake for a gay couple)

I expect the shop owners will want to take extra-judicial retaliation now... seeing as how unjust the law is...

Winning a lawsuit doesn't always mean winning the big game at the very end.

I bet the shop owners know some people who owe them small favors...

If I were making a movie this would be how it proceeds...

The gays walk up to the store owners in the middle of a business hour and in front of every single customer gloatingly demands their cake. Expecting the shop owners to be extremely pissed off and humiliated, they are shocked instead to find the shop owners smiling calmly.

The cake is brought before them but it turns out to be a cake of the very worst quality imaginable. The gays are annoyed and leave, threatening to launch yet another lawsuit over this. Shop owners say nothing but just keep on smiling calmly.

The gays talk to their lawyer again.

Here's the catch though... they never make it to launch the next lawsuit...

Grossdeutsches Kaiserreich #racist forum.nationstates.net

South Africa without whites will devolve into crime, anarchy and lawlessness just like every other African-run nation. Without whites to babysit them they'll suffer tremendously. The only solution is a return to Apartheid, although in the end a final solution must be found.

Blacks in South Africa have tremendously benefited from white rule, even Mandela wanted to keep the whites around in order to prevent economic devastation. The future demographic viability of the white race has been under assault for centuries.

Nevanmaa #racist forum.nationstates.net

*Just a little bit of explanation before you read the quote: the site where it was taken, Nationstates, is also a simulation game where users control nations and use flags as their game avatars. That said, the following quote was witnessed in the Out Of Character Forum of the website*

Once again, I've got a question for you mod folks. I don't want to get into trouble, so I'm gonna ask here.

As you probably know, I've used a blue-white-orange tricolor of apartheid-era South Africa as my flag for years, but last week I changed my flag to show my support for the Ukrainian pro-EU protests. As you probably also know, Mandela just died, and several nations have switched their flags to South African flags to "honor" him.

I personally regard Mandela to be nothing but a terrorist thug, and I was planning to protest the general "Mandela was a hero and a freedom fighter!!" consensus by reverting to my original, apartheid-era blue-white-orange flag.

Now, I would like to know if using the "apartheid" flag be considered to be trolling, considering the latest events? I assume the answer is no, since people are using South African flag right now to make a political statement, but I want to be sure.

Caldaria #fundie forum.nationstates.net

Arguing with those who know no better; who drown in the pit of ignorance on this issue; and who believe that this "gay marriage" is the rightful institution for society to implement. One hundred years from now, they will be allowed to marry; they will spread their ideas throughout the world; and everyone will see that the sacred institution of marriage is destroyed....crumbling, laid to dust. Liriena, Blasveck, Fascist Russian Empire..I pity you three. You did not have a choice as to how you were born..I didn't have a choice as to how I was born...nor has anyone else living on God's earth. But, what you three and your supporters are proposing is something which could disrupt the whole structure of human civilization. This century, this century of progress, of technology, of constant turmoil in the world, will be marred by the adoption of the idea of gay marriage, and we will see, when the year 2101 arrives, that the institution is legal throughout the whole Western World; when that day comes, it will truly be a shame for this world, a curse under God; a shame, for it to pass. For the homosexuals will have that right, and their right will lead to absurdities; within the next five hundred years, or even less, a man will want to marry his dog, or his cat, or his daughter; a no-count fool will be able to attach himself to a animal; and polygamy will take root. The day when a traditional married couple is joined by a gay couple, and eventually, by a bestial couple, will be the day to rue. To rue...In the science fiction projects I have been working on, something like this will never come to pass: in this world, it should not come to pass.

MasterAce #racist forum.nationstates.net

(Thread title is "Does racism even exist?" and yes, all these typos are his)

Is it just another mass media trick to get teh audiencez? :blink:
I haven't heard about racismz in anywhere other than a medias. I haven't heard about racismz at all, since I kicked out my TV out of room years ago. The only place I heard about racismz is here, on this site.

Why. Why. Why? Why? Why? Why? Why? Why?.......
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Why.
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.why?...Why. :shock:

1stoff : How can u be racist against ppl you don't see, hear, know, feel, communicate to directly? Dass messtap. :?
2ndoff: Is racismz a device to attract attention to yourself?
3rdoff: Do psychologists exist here to tell us if victim complex (real dizeasy) is the reason for all this shouting of "racismz"?

My life was very fine and racistless, antil I stumpled apon dis sait, and everyone is yapping about racismz dis, racismz dat. Were iz all da racismz and what even IZ EET!!??

Do u have to be racist to understand what racism is, and recognize it in otherz? How do I become one?
Do u have to have victim complex to lie about being victim of it?

LAstoff: How many times have YOU used the "racist!" excuse to get out of an argument you were loosing with ego unbruiseted?

Yehuddah #fundie forum.nationstates.net

Listen well, you inferior being:
This is, OUR LAND. You see Hebron, look at it, ALL OURS. You see your al aksa, we will destroy it and will make the Temple.
You see Bethlehem, ours.
The fucking USSR gave you tons of weapons, yet you lost to a tiny unorginized army, such a shame.

Now listen well you Islamonazi, you have luck I'm not in favour of slaughtering you, apparently you Arabs obviously deserve it.

Independent Wessex #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(Thread title: Atheism: a sign of psychopathy?)

Or is it willful rejection of reality?

The Facts are Atheists are more cold hearted and evil than theists especially christians:
And more likely to commit mass murders, such as shooting up schools.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/seanthomas/100231060/are-atheists-mentally-ill/

I personally believe their is a link between Atheism and mentally illness, through it would be a stretch to say psychopathy as a large percentage of Atheists are capable of acting like normal people. Which Psychopaths can't do. How ever Atheists are more likely to have a skewed moral compass making them more likely to shoot up schools etc...

United States of White America #fundie forum.nationstates.net

Was atheism the cause of communism, or was it a means to an end? Either way atheists have a lot to answer for. Communism has resulted in the deaths of 100 million people. The policies of Mao, Pol Pot and Stalin come as the result of godlessness. If only they had some moral code in their lives, then maybe this would not have happened.

Freiheit Reich #racist forum.nationstates.net

*During a thread on Affirmative Action*

Many white liberals love playing the role of hero to blacks whom they view as helpless children. It makes them feel superior to be 'helpful' to the 'poor and ignorant blacks' who need a great white hero to save them. Liberals are sometimes the biggest racists around. They talk about encouraging black pride and then say that blacks can't compete fairly with whites.

I think every race should be expected to stand on their own 2 feet. Treat everybody equal and lets see how things turn out.

Empire of Narnia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(on an evangelical charity not being allowed to run a toy drive on school grounds)

It is a good charity they shouldn't have to find another one. Really, America needs to scrap the separation of church and state with a constitutional amendment.

*That! Is! A! Bad! Idea!*

Good idea, my friend. I will not be happy until a crucifix sits atop the capitol and jackboots march across the white house lawn.

If the first amendment stops charities out of some misplaced morals it should be purged.

(a few posts down, scroll to see them)

I don't fool around. I just have opinions that are unpopular with some users on this site. I am also not a Nazi, but I believe in theocracy.

Distributist Chestertonia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(Gay marriage discussion)

Not unless I can get the same legal rights between me and my buddy Alex, between me and my mother, between me and my manager (if I ever get employed again), and between me and my dog, Brick.

There is nothing which makes a gay relationship any better than these. In fact, there is less in most cases. A child has a natural right to a mother. A manager and an employer also have a very special relationship.

Marriage proper is how children come about. Children have a right to a mother and a father by the nature of the sexual act, and they have a right for that mother and father to love each other, love the child, and love God (insofar as they are able).

You take away - or worse, trivialise - a part of a man's life story by giving him two mothers or two fathers, and making the kid the child of one of 'em and a sperm donor, or one of 'em and an surrogate, or one of them and a nameless woman who gave her eggs away. A man has the right to be wanted by both parties from the beginning. (Now, there are other reasons why surrogacy, artificial insemination, in vitro and the like are wrong, and I shall not get into those here.)

I agree teen pregnancy is a problem. I agree a child's parents should love each other, as well as the kid. But the answer is not to breed kids and then give them over to people who feel entitled to a child, much less people who feel entitled to marriage (if there's a Ms. Right out there for me, I sure haven't met her!!), or even people who do not know what love is. Sex is not love. It is not the epitome of love. It is not the summit of love. It is not the proof of love. It is a tool to express love, just as a rum-and-coke or paying the bills, or a good massage might be.

It is also something more than that. The very fact that you can read this - or at you exist at all - is proof sex is far more powerful than we give it credit for. You gotta respect sex, because while it is not love and is a tool, it is also how we come into the world. And who doesn't thank their parents for raising them right (or wish their parents had raised em right)? We owe our lives, biologically and socially, to our parents. When they succeed society keeps on chugging. When they fail it is a catastrophe. The answer is NOT to hand children over to a family situation we don't know the consequences of - at best. The answer is to fix the situation we have by reforming our understanding of sexuality and the human person - to have more reverence for the thing, and to have more reverence for the child.

The government has no part in society when it comes to sex. This is an area outside of its jurisdiction. It must come from the grassroots level, just as it did 2000 years ago - and even farther back with the Jews. You cannot legislate morality. It has to be a part of the society first on a cultural level. I have to learn to be chaste, as would my wife (if I ever had one). I would have to teach my children, so they can teach their children. And we would have to teach our fellow Catholics how to be chaste as well once we had learned.

If God is on our side, nothing can stop us if we, the Catholic Church (and her anonymous allies) clean house and make ourselves in God's image insofar as we can, and then take it to the world. If He isn't, or worse doesn't exist, does it really matter? We'll fail, either way. The change has to start within one's own heart, not without. And I guarantee you legalising gay marriage will utterly fail. Just like Prohibition did. Just like legalising slavery in America up to the Civil War. Just like Plessy v. Fergusson. Just like the Comstock laws. People will either learn to respect their bodies - rather than indulging in them, or on the other hand hiding them like Puritans - or they'll continue oscillating between Puritanism and Paganism, so to speak - between indulging in their sexual cravings and hiding them for the well being of society.

Unless people begin living a balanced life. And that more or less, with very few exceptions, can only be found in the Catholic Church today (mind, I am including the Orthodox, who are more or less Catholic).

Saiwania #racist forum.nationstates.net

*It's that simple - the white vote continues to shrink as a proportion of the voting population, and even though it's still a majority, not enough whites are so mindlessly bigoted as to be anything but nauseated at such open displays of racism.*

Doesn't the fact that the White percentage of the vote is shrinking prove my fear that White people are gradually becoming extinct? Or is this trend only limited to the US in your view?

It is the simple observation that besides primarily majority White countries, most of the world's majority non-White countries are much less ethnically diverse but far outnumber White people as a percentage of human population. What should happen eventually, looking at the numbers in my mind; is the exponential decline of Whites globally as they shrink into extinction while the non-Whites will still experience exponential growth from already having a larger pool of people and not being as economically developed.

Surely White people will perish from this Earth if the demographic reality is continuously stacked against us.

Tsmida Eri #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(Discussion about gay marriage)

These people are fools if they think this will work, Liberalism has already destroyed America, there's no going back now. We're doomed to be a nation of ignorance and chaos, a true anarchy if ever there was one. At least countries like Russia are still sensible and enlightened... for the moment.

*By allowing homosexuals to have rights we will be doomed?

What's the math there?*

There is no math there, because that's not math. You're not making any sense.

And yes, we will be doomed, doomed to be a cesspool of ignorance to how things are supposed to work, a breeding pit for sin, a nation for Satan.

Imperia Mlytoria #fundie forum.nationstates.net

*in response to being warned for trolling after calling for genocide of Mormons in New York*

For the thousandth time already, my genuine belief as to a perfectly good and optimal solution to the problem is not trolling. Get off your anti-genocide high horse already, will you?

Magna Libero #fundie #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

*In a thread about LGBT media becoming mainstream*

I didn't know those songs/bands were pro-lgbt..

Unfortunately, it is becoming more and more of a trend, again. Well, I hope the lgbt culture is not going to influence normal people's culture too much. I suppose there will be a big market for bi/gay/lesbian/trans etc, though don't expect non-lgbt people to buy any of those content, which (I suppose) can be seen from the scarcity of lgbt content in the stores. At the moment it is not so much mainstream, but I feel there is a constant increase in that when attitudes change and people become increasingly atheist.

Nationstatesology #conspiracy forum.nationstates.net

Kimvodkastan the thing you need to understand first is the connections between the words Left, Liberal, and Authoritarian, within the context of politics.

Liberal at one time stood for liberty,
Today Left and Liberal are commonly associated,
And within the last 50-100 years Authoritarians have taken to calling themselves Liberals.

Authoritarians took on the False banner of Liberal because the old methods of state control over the populace had become unpopular so the only way to bring these methods back involved pretending to be what is considered popular, as well as to smear the reputation of the most liberty aligned ideology of that time.

As a result left in some peoples mind gains the reputation of old Liberal, but due to modern influence of Authoritarians that hide behind this banner that reputation gets falsely placed onto ideologies that rely on some form of Authoritarianism to function, Communism and socialism being so closely associated with the Left and historically with Authoritarianism.

This whole site is a monument to the confusion of ideologies so expect there to be a lot of bias on this site and in the game that will be pro statism but will not admit to being pro statism.

Valcouria #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(On stopping being gay)


You're not trying hard enough; I'm sure with proper support you would be successful in the endeavor to do away with that choice, but as you've said, your close kin have embraced the wrong choice made rather than help change it.

*Gay teenagers kill themselves every year because they want to change but can't. If they haven't tried hard enough, I don't know if anyone can.*

They have taken the 'easy' way out...in either case, they have a hot spot waiting for them.

Valcouria #fundie forum.nationstates.net

The only warping of Christianity that is occurring are the secular humanists who have infiltrated good Christian society and started preaching that everything is just fine, there's no such thing as sin. To be frank, those who ascribe to such a view are not Christian, just some offshoot of the secular humanist viewpoint that happens to believe in something greater than themselves.
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Should be called something else, to be honest.

*America's government and laws are not based on Christianity nor is marriage a necessarily religious ceremony.*


Just about all laws are based on Christianity, actually. The Ten Commandments? Those things that some courts have said are not fit to hang in a court room to display our humble legal beginnings?

As for the second point, the church and the government should be in step with each other; it shows that they are both in the same mindset. When one goes a different way, society stumbles and falls apart...as ancient Rome will show.

Valcouria #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(On Hawaii probably being the next state to legalize same-sex marriage)

And so 'progress' continues to degrade and destroy cultural morality and sensibility...is it any wonder the world is coming apart at the seams? I surmise not.

*I love being gay. It allows me to laugh extra hard at people like you.*

And I do enjoy believing that you and people like you have a hot room waiting for you at the end of your mortal life. Guess we're even then, aren't we?

Mizrah #fundie forum.nationstates.net

[On the topic of modern-day slavery in Mauritania]
Reforms need to be made to raise the standards of living for the slaves. That is all.

[A few posts later]
Slaves must be sustained and maintained like a member of the household. We may begin here. I have no qualms over slavery though.

Free Tristania #fundie forum.nationstates.net

Who profited from available contraceptives ? Women or men ? It will be the latter. Sex without responsibility. And if woman got pregnant they could explained to be blamed and abortion was still illegal "you should have taken the pill, you daft hag !" and both sex outside marriage (for women only.. of course) let alone abortion carried a huge stigma and desperate women tried to have all sorts of illegal abortions. And the man.. freed of his responsibility got away with it more than before because then it would have ended up in a shotgun marriage.
Who profited from the new "beauty ideals ?" The fashion industry did.. leaving many insecure about their own looks and aspiring to ever more unrealistic looks.
Who benefited from the abolition of grading as based on ability and publishing what the best schools were ? The rich who moved in and who snatched the homes closest to the better schools, forcing the poor out.
Who benefited from the country culture ? Phonies like Warhol who made good money out of it ?
Who benefited from tearing down traditional neighbourhoods and building miles after miles of a new concrete jungle ? Entrepreneurs.
Who benefited from all the festivals ? Entrepreneurs.
Who benefited from the "live now, pay later"that the liberals came up with ? Well.. at the end of the day the banks since people got themselves in debt where a generation before the word debt was seen as a curse.

What the 1960s and liberalism have done is not liberating people: it's wanton destruction without providing a real alternative to the old world. It's quite the opposite of "liberation". DId the decolonisation liberate Africa btw ? Hardly.. some African areas were still relatively wealthy in the early 60s. By the 1970s they were dirt poor and in perpetual chaos all because of hasty decolonisations and a lack of common sense.

And you may not like to hear it but there it is ? Relaxed immigration laws ? And more women entering the workforce ? Who benefitted ? Industry did as wages could be slashed. In my grandfather's day (50s, early 60s) people earned a living wage enough to feed a family. Today both husband and wife have to work and their only just make ends meet.

Starkiller101 #fundie forum.nationstates.net

[Emphasis added]
“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”

-- Neil deGrasse Tyson*

Not totally true

How so?

Because nothing could never 100% true there's lies in everything if there a lie in science then none of its true and i don't care of that makes sense or not

Dagnia #conspiracy forum.nationstates.net

(Discussing on wether Nazism is left or right wing)

Nazis and communists were every bit as different as Crips and Bloods. They hated each other, but their primary difference was in style. In the end, I think both ideologies defy right-left categorization (as do libertarians and some types of anarchists for the opposite reason) because they both wanted total control over people's actions and their livelihood under the pretence of caring for them.

That said, there are some eerie similarities between Nazis and the modern left (not the old one). The modern leftist is obsessed with race and putting people into groups, often based on race and national origin, but also sex and sexual orientation. While the Nazis had their "Aryan science" and "Jewish science", the modern left has "feminist science" and sciences for every oppressed group, all of which pretty much say logic itself is an invention of whatever oppressor is handy.

Mewtinigrad #fundie forum.nationstates.net

*Subject is shooting spree in Chicago park*

You people DO realize that most of these attacks are staged, right? They make some sob story about made up people who were shot by "an EVIL white guy with guns!", and then they use that as a good enough excuse to take our rights away. Now to get weapons, I have to go to some kind of test and prove my allegiance to the government. Not even kidding, I've been to those "background checks", and they're all designed to test whether or not you could be harboring antigovernment thoughts. It's kinda obvious, actually. You sheeple will believe anything.

Freiheit Reich #fundie forum.nationstates.net

Many people wait until marriage to have sex. If gay men often wait until marriage to have sex than marriage will encourage them to have sex. Many gay men are getting AIDS via sex.

http://healthland.time.com/2012/07/20/hiv-continues-to-spread-among-gay-men-studies-show/

Gays have a higher rate of HIV/AIDS than normal people do in several nations. Gay marriage harms gays. I bet you are surprised by this news.

Lydenburg #fundie forum.nationstates.net

*Discussion is about Archbishop Desmond Tutu saying he would not worship a homophobic god*

Eh, Tutu ceased to be of any relevance a long time ago. This is just one of his latest bids for attention.

The guy never should have been admitted to a church, anyroad. He's hardly a model Christian.

Scholencia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(Topic is a gay priest is sentenced to five months probation for raping gay boys to "cure" them)

This case has more to do with the West where liberalism has gone so far with this "mah feelling, morale is relative. I can do whatever I want" than with religion.

No, this is a case of dicks being dicks.

So quit with the "LIBRUL" rhetoric.*


Could you please explain why is there no pedophilia in the clergy of eastern part of Earth?

liberals have this rhetoric such as"go out fron the closet", "its ok if you are attracted ti animals, you have human rights and do what youu want". the corrupt priest just followed that "open-minded" liberal pamflets.

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