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Tyson Fury #fundie #conspiracy forum.nationstates.net

Thank you, yes i see now they are funding mosques in the uk

They are also fighting the BBC paedo protectors too

Definitely a mixed bag

I was wondering if saudis fund wahabbi mosques and iranians fund Shia mosques do the Israelis fund uk synagogues?

i personally believe that there should be no non christian places of worship in the uk, but I can tolerate them if they are not calling for the death of christians or of britain. Do Shia mosques in the uk do that?

Cosara #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(Gay marriage debate) *Definitions come after Human rights*

You are Atheist, are you not? Well, if you are, your hypocrisy is extraordinary. In an Atheist world, no one has rights. No one is entitled to anything. In an Atheist world, the state gives and defines rights, therefor the state is the only thing in existence that has any natural right, and that right is to define the rights of it's subjects.

Greater Guantanamo #wingnut #conspiracy forum.nationstates.net

Apologies, I forgot worshipping Muslims is what leftists define as the West. Also again the Peron comparisons are retarded, but you already know that.

Other poster in response to the above: Ah, so the governments and populace of Europe, Canada, Australia, etc. hated Biden because they thought he was not giving Israel enough support? Is that the claim you're making?

No it turns out those people also wanted Muslim-worship to become the state religion, they simply didn't expect Hamas to sign such an unfavorable peace deal back in October

Marxina #fundie #pratt forum.nationstates.net

With all due respect, I'll not change my entire sexuality just to prove something to a random user of a roleplaying game. We can agree that heterosexual attraction is socially constructed. Is it too far a stretch to say sexuality iself is?

Yes, if you have the willpower, you can choose your sexuality.

Mazakena #fundie #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

I'm not going to argue with you over this, but God created the world in perfection, and the sin of man has slowly eroded and destroyed the earth, homosexuality is an evil and an example of how sin has destroyed the earth, and even not from a biblical point of view, homos can't have kids, so not very natural, and they have the same body parts sooo....

Vakhgala #homophobia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

The difference is that infertile people cant choose if they are fertile or not, meanwhile in homosexuality you can clearly choose (to control) your sexual orientation. When you control it, homosexual tendecies get quieter and quieter, until you dont have them anymore, even psychology says this. This applies for all sins. I get it, you cant choose your sexual orientation, but you can CONTROL it and when you ignore and pray about those tendencies they will dissapear, simple as that...

Port Carverton #wingnut forum.nationstates.net

(on the murder of Alex Pretti)

Mf he died for BlueSky views – the video where the pink haired woman asks others to call 911 instead of stopping her recording says as much. It happened during the Renee good too. Yeah you can make up your weird fantics about Charlie Kirk and stuff to project, but the fact of the matter is some people learned unlike Katniss from the Hunger Games, their spinal cords don't have plot armor. Doesn't help the only thing he really did (because he ends up grabbing said woman, presumably thinking it was an ICE agent as he got maced) was die for views on a Twitter clone. Your comment about echo chambers is one of the worst projections I've seen on this website, seeing yesterday people were calling for a coup/civil war/revolution. Yet are they gonna do anything? No of course not, don't be surprised if some accounts here go silent, then the users come back on new nations claiming "They saw the light" and "Trump is too moderate". I don't even know where this idea of Trumpfall still comes from, seeing people here threatened suicide over the shutdown ending in the GOP's favor. If one side is threatening suicide over the legislature not doing what they want, that's much more closer to the inhuman, monstrous, self-destructive and hollow ideology you describe. Coming back to Charlie Kirk, a lot of people didn't really care about him yet people acted like he had personally murdered their whole family, so yeah people are not gonna care about faux moralism on political violence.

Jamzmania #fundie forum.nationstates.net

Saying that marriage is a union between a man and a woman is no different than saying that the word wood is "the hard fibrous material that forms the main substance of the trunk or branches of a tree or shrub." Are we shaming rocks because we won't call them wood?

A pathetic attempt at false equivalence, not only trying to anthromorphize non-sapient objects but implying that the only allowed marriages are between man and woman is a scientific fact.

Christians have a definition of what marriage is. There is no shaming involved when we point out that a relationship between a man and another man does not meet that definition. Ala rock is not wood.

Caribbia #racist #conspiracy #elitist #wingnut forum.nationstates.net

Three things.
1. 1994 was not a free and fair election, as about 70% of the country suddenly became legally permitted to vote, which completely 180ed the political landscape of the country and the blacks united - and now we have a government in South Africa that is simply anti-white. The ANC being elected in 1994 can be compared to the formative years of apartheid - one ethnic group uniting against the other.
2. Minneapolis is fine. I don't mind the racial mix, as long as everyone is legal, it's great to celebrate and share different cultures! Especially when there are no race laws that would restrict white Minnesotans from pretty much everything in one way or another :)
3. I am NOT okay with brutalizing people solely because of their race, accent, or both. Remember, people with foreign accents and/or of a foreign race CAN be legal!

Caribbia #racist forum.nationstates.net

An African, African-American. What do you mean? My parents are both South African, whose ancestors lived in South Africa since way before the US even existed. In fact, white settlers came to 8 of the 9 South African provinces before the first black South Africans. So if anything my parents are more African than your average black South African, or more South African at least.
I don't see how you can imply we're any less African because we're white?

Neo Deutschland #fundie #homophobia #racist #conspiracy forum.nationstates.net

White straight Christians are routinely refused basic rights in all Western countries, what are you smoking?

Have you ever heard of the freedom of association? If this board is supposed to be coming from a libertarian point of view, at least research what Barry Goldwater said about the Civil Rights Act and why he voted against it. It's a clear violation of freedom.

You can't force people to violate themselves so that other people's feelings don't get hurt. Principles are actually more important than the ego of degenerates.

White Rhodesia #racist #wingnut forum.nationstates.net

My forebears rode out from South Africa in 1890 as members of the pioneer column, fought for King and Country in two world wars, voted for self government, championed the cause of sovereign independence, and went on to defy the world for 14 years before coming to terms with the winds of change sweeping across the continent

They were charitable towards the indigenous inhabitants of the land they called their home, they brought law and order to a society beset by chaos, they introduced public education and modern medicine to a people whose ranks were decimated by illiteracy and high mortality rates, they built an economy based on free enterprise and paternalism, they established parliamentary governance, and they looked forward to a time when the land they loved would take it's place among the nations of the free world

Regardless of their flaws and inconsistencies as human beings I am immensely proud of them and it is my hope that one day Zimbabweans of all races and colours will live together in peace and harmony not as blacks or as whites but as Zimbabweans

Rhodesia is history and with it so too is my family's legacy, despite this I will continue to celebrate our independence and honor the war dead.

On a final and parting note let me leave you with a verse or two from Clem Tholet's "Peace Dream"

"May the sweetness of your soil yet bring you riches,
And your pastures ever fill your belly's needs,
May the nations that you harbour find a way to live as one;
Keep your standards high - do not give in to greed.

May God be with you and keep you strong;
May your tomorrows be rich and long."

East Dolinia #transphobia #sexist #conspiracy forum.nationstates.net

Well, of course !!!
Of whom are the 'TERFs', i.e., the feminists, the lackeys? Intellectual transphobia (not the instinctive revulsion, childlike caricaturing, bible-bashing, and violence which emerge as reactions from the Right) is an entirely feminist phenomenon!
It's the mainstream - the 'academics', the 'doctors', the 'journalists' of our fallen age, along with the intersectionalist liberal 'feminists', who are brow-beating feminists into repudiating and abolishing 'female' as a meaningful (social, legal, etc.) category, and attempting to abolish segregation on the basis of birth sex even in private institutions and voluntary associations.
You can't have women's rights and women's liberation without being able to answer the question 'What is a woman?' And Dworkin understood that
Womanhood is a condition of birth.

Holmkerk #wingnut forum.nationstates.net

Seeing as in the West, material concerns are pretty much fulfilled (there are still issues with housing, and with healthcare and addiction, but no one is dying of hunger anymore), We should concern ourselves on the three other pillars of civilization: Identity, Social Cohesion and Defence. The Nation being the most developed form of societal structure, and the Family being the strongest one, the brick of all civilizations, I believe that the question of Identity is solved through national identity, which is mostly cultural, but has important linguistic, ethnic, and religious components. Social Cohesion is achieved thanks to an ordered hierarchy, where everyone has their place, and the preservation of the family structure, which is instrumental for any functioning society. Religious morality allows this hierarchical system to work more or less harmonically, and tradition allows the system to continue for the next generations. Defence is relatively self-explanatory, with the Army as a major institution, strict border control, and cooperation with Nations from the same greater Civilization (e.g., systems like NATO and the EU when they don't serve the interests of a single member or technocrats and foreign businessmen)

Obviously with urbanisation and the industrial and technological revolutions, traditions and identities must adapt to survive, but they shouldn't be got rid of. To preserve the system, it sometimes has to change, but the Spirit behind them must remain the same. The old-fashioned, rural form of reactionism cannot be replicated as is nowadays.

Stellonia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

Just because Wikipedia says it does not mean it is so. If you look at other Wikipedia pages, such as the timeline starting several billion years ago, you will see that it is partial towards the unscientific theories known as the Big Bang and neo-Darwinism.

[I am sure yu can show how it is unscientific. What is neo-Darwinism, is it like neo-Eisteinism? I am also sure you can show evidence beyond the bible that those scientific theories are indeed not true.]

Neo-Darwinism is another term for macro-evolution, a theory that claims that dinosaurs, humans, eggplants, and bacteria all share a common ancestor.

Also, how can the entire mass of the universe fit into a volume the size of a speck of dust on my keyboard?

Mewtinigrad #fundie forum.nationstates.net

*Subject is shooting spree in Chicago park*

You people DO realize that most of these attacks are staged, right? They make some sob story about made up people who were shot by "an EVIL white guy with guns!", and then they use that as a good enough excuse to take our rights away. Now to get weapons, I have to go to some kind of test and prove my allegiance to the government. Not even kidding, I've been to those "background checks", and they're all designed to test whether or not you could be harboring antigovernment thoughts. It's kinda obvious, actually. You sheeple will believe anything.

Oceanic People #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(thread topic: is morality possible without god?)

The answer is NO if you believe the traditions an dogma of the Church. On the other hand if you believe 'god' is any power and/or authority that a person submits to, then yes, morality IS possible without 'God'. This is why Atheists who are NOT sociopaths are just cowards.

Tea party separation of america #fundie forum.nationstates.net

The US is a christian nation, therefore the definition of marriage should be defined by the christian church.

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The United States can't use the Christian definition because that would require respecting an establishment of religion, which is banned by the First Amendment.]

The 1st amendment is freedom to religion, not freedom from religion.

Freiheit Reich #racist forum.nationstates.net

*During a thread on Affirmative Action*

Many white liberals love playing the role of hero to blacks whom they view as helpless children. It makes them feel superior to be 'helpful' to the 'poor and ignorant blacks' who need a great white hero to save them. Liberals are sometimes the biggest racists around. They talk about encouraging black pride and then say that blacks can't compete fairly with whites.

I think every race should be expected to stand on their own 2 feet. Treat everybody equal and lets see how things turn out.

Guelder #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(In a discussion on Gernan Neonazi Otfried Best wanting to replace arabic numberals with "normal" ones)

I also support banning Arabic numerals

... First, Arabic numerals are better suited for math and already used worldwide. Second, it isn't even Arabic. Third, proper Latin numerals can't exactly describe numbers bigger than one million. Or the number zero. Fourth, do you seriously want to do 45,278,629 multiplied by 964 with Latin numerals?

There's practicality and common sense involved in this equation.

I understand your point, but in my opinion, Arabic does not belong to Europe and America, and about the fourth point: No, i only want the current 123-numbers used in the western world, thus in Europe and America

@Gigaverse

So, yeah. Good luck being backwater economies. You're gonna desperately need to cling to it.

Oh, by the way. "In your opinion" is not a good indicator of objectivity.

I see liberal tears
@Risottia

And how are you going to count them?

I don't count it, i just know that liberals don't like conservatives, and every time they hear a conservative speaking they burst their tears out :p
@Petrolheadia

I didn't, I simply made fun of you.

That's for me the same, because that's what Liberals do

@Petrolheadia

I could rebuke your thought-out arguments, but you have none.

That's your opinion, i see here only liberal tears because a conservative is speaking

@Petrolheadia

And that's your opinion.

I'm speaking the truth, Liberals just can't get into arguments, Conservatives can get into arguments. If a Conservative confronts a Liberal with the truth, they'll cry like babies

@Petrolheadia

First, I'm not crying, second, it's just your opinion.

Okay, you're not crying, good job, but you now don't want a argument anymore with a conservative

@Petrolheadia

That's your opinion, because I want this argument to last as long as it can.

I'm having a lot of fun doing it.

I'm also having fun to argument with a liberal, because liberals don't want to know the truth and are brainwashed

@Petrolheadia

Indeed. I put my brain into my Electrolux for every night, for 90°C and maximum RPM, and it's squeky-clean now.

What did you just say?

Distributist Chestertonia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(Gay marriage discussion)

Not unless I can get the same legal rights between me and my buddy Alex, between me and my mother, between me and my manager (if I ever get employed again), and between me and my dog, Brick.

There is nothing which makes a gay relationship any better than these. In fact, there is less in most cases. A child has a natural right to a mother. A manager and an employer also have a very special relationship.

Marriage proper is how children come about. Children have a right to a mother and a father by the nature of the sexual act, and they have a right for that mother and father to love each other, love the child, and love God (insofar as they are able).

You take away - or worse, trivialise - a part of a man's life story by giving him two mothers or two fathers, and making the kid the child of one of 'em and a sperm donor, or one of 'em and an surrogate, or one of them and a nameless woman who gave her eggs away. A man has the right to be wanted by both parties from the beginning. (Now, there are other reasons why surrogacy, artificial insemination, in vitro and the like are wrong, and I shall not get into those here.)

I agree teen pregnancy is a problem. I agree a child's parents should love each other, as well as the kid. But the answer is not to breed kids and then give them over to people who feel entitled to a child, much less people who feel entitled to marriage (if there's a Ms. Right out there for me, I sure haven't met her!!), or even people who do not know what love is. Sex is not love. It is not the epitome of love. It is not the summit of love. It is not the proof of love. It is a tool to express love, just as a rum-and-coke or paying the bills, or a good massage might be.

It is also something more than that. The very fact that you can read this - or at you exist at all - is proof sex is far more powerful than we give it credit for. You gotta respect sex, because while it is not love and is a tool, it is also how we come into the world. And who doesn't thank their parents for raising them right (or wish their parents had raised em right)? We owe our lives, biologically and socially, to our parents. When they succeed society keeps on chugging. When they fail it is a catastrophe. The answer is NOT to hand children over to a family situation we don't know the consequences of - at best. The answer is to fix the situation we have by reforming our understanding of sexuality and the human person - to have more reverence for the thing, and to have more reverence for the child.

The government has no part in society when it comes to sex. This is an area outside of its jurisdiction. It must come from the grassroots level, just as it did 2000 years ago - and even farther back with the Jews. You cannot legislate morality. It has to be a part of the society first on a cultural level. I have to learn to be chaste, as would my wife (if I ever had one). I would have to teach my children, so they can teach their children. And we would have to teach our fellow Catholics how to be chaste as well once we had learned.

If God is on our side, nothing can stop us if we, the Catholic Church (and her anonymous allies) clean house and make ourselves in God's image insofar as we can, and then take it to the world. If He isn't, or worse doesn't exist, does it really matter? We'll fail, either way. The change has to start within one's own heart, not without. And I guarantee you legalising gay marriage will utterly fail. Just like Prohibition did. Just like legalising slavery in America up to the Civil War. Just like Plessy v. Fergusson. Just like the Comstock laws. People will either learn to respect their bodies - rather than indulging in them, or on the other hand hiding them like Puritans - or they'll continue oscillating between Puritanism and Paganism, so to speak - between indulging in their sexual cravings and hiding them for the well being of society.

Unless people begin living a balanced life. And that more or less, with very few exceptions, can only be found in the Catholic Church today (mind, I am including the Orthodox, who are more or less Catholic).

Anglican Prussia #homophobia #fundie #psycho forum.nationstates.net

I have a confession to make; I was bullied when I was in grammar school, and I went to both state run and private schools during my time in grammar school. In both, I was bulled and the staff did little to nothing to stop it. I also grew up with homosexual attractions while I was in the private grammar school which was also a very conservative Roman Catholic School. But I survived and I am still very thankful for my Roman Catholic education for providing me an great education not only on the “ 3 R’S” but on moral values and ethics.

Now, I must say, at the time, the bullying seemed to have no real value. I was bullied because of me weight, of a tumor I had on right side of my cheek, a small pony tail that I used to have, of my learning disability and my alleged and actually true homosexual “crush” on another student, which was actually my first “crush.” But unlike today, I fought back. Well, I did not really fight anyone, I “ripped” on them back.

Today, I hardly talk to them and when I do, we just laugh at it. People mature and people move on. I strongly believe that a bully in his childhood is a bully in his/her adulthood. And if they are, they are most likely just passive-aggressive arses.

Without the bullying that I went through as a child and early teenager, I would not able to survive in adult world today. I had have supervisors that were just plain dicks, and guess what, I am still living. If you can’t handle grammar, middle and high school and the bullies that come with it, then I’m sorry, you are the problem, not the bully.

Currently, especially in the U.S, we seem to have an all of a sudden focus on children and teenagers that are homosexual. There are claims that we need to protect them from the bullies because if someone “harasses” based on their sexuality, they are “harmed” so how. That they need to be a protected class because—well I haven’t really heard a reason why from the advocate for it.

Firstly, I grew up homosexual in a Roman Catholic private school, I was told every day that people like myself was going to hell. In fact, my private school and parish went one step further and preached that even having homosexual attractions was a sin, let alone acting on them. So, I felt like crap and at times, I did want to kill myself. But guess what? I survived through the medicine.

Yes, I am saying that the bullying of homosexual teens is beneficial to them, because it will teach them how to fight back and that not everyone is going to accept homosexuality just because it is “the right and smart thing to do”. There is going to ignorant people out there and people are going to “cling to their religion”, deal with it. It will also teach them not to be ahem...overly expressive in professional environments.

The Parkus Empire #fundie forum.nationstates.net

(full exchange posted here quoted is the other poster)

Marriage makes someone your family. All the griping about how gays need marriage without even knowing what is, smdh

wut?

I mean your spouse is close family, even closer than your parents. That's what marriage means, that's the whole basis of the "hospital visits" people said were so important

Yeah I got that
The bringing in the gays part

I mean liberals who demanded so loudly for gay marriage, often don't even know what marriage is. Marriage is a lifelong commitment, a serious responsibility. Divorce is a perversion, a wrong, an evil. Making perversion the norm and responsibility the exception, as the OP advocates, stems from a complete absence of distinction

Nevanmaa #racist forum.nationstates.net

*Discussion on the late Nelson Mandela*

I can't say I'm sad at all. The man responsible for deaths of hundreds in dozens of terrorist attacks, including the Church Street bombings, deserves no pity from me. A man so violent that he refused to work towards co-existence peacefully, instead resorting to murdering innocent white men, women and children deserves nothing but a spit in the face. Not even Amnesty International recognized him as a political prisoner, and for a good reason.

Mandela and his ANC goons single-handedly destroyed South Africa, sending crime rates, inflation and white emigration through the roof, not to mention he's responsible for Afrikaner cultural holocaust and genocide and an institution of a de facto single party state. I don't see why anyone would consider his legacy even remotely good. Mandela was an evil, pathetic little man whose power fantasies led not only to deaths of hundreds of innocents, but an end to one of the most prosperous nations in Africa.

As Margaret Thatcher once said, "ANC is a terrorist organization and Mandela is a terrorist". It's ironic that history eventually showed how right she was.

Ostroeuropa #sexist forum.nationstates.net

Given the evidence here, unless you can find some proof that Apple has accounted for this in their hiring practices and expects higher qualifications from women for the same roles, it is a necessary consequence of the discrimination in the school system that the male employees of the same position are in fact more talented than the women, because the mens grades were downsized and the womens upsized before they were even hired.

The OECD education director even notes this. It's not just me saying it. It's merely a fact people who complain about the pay gap don't want to engage with and play the "Trick" I pointed out earlier of conflating;

"How dare you suggest women are less talented than men" with "How dare you suggest THESE women are less talented than THESE men". They are. We can demonstrate why. The attempt here and in the broader movement is to force the legal system to expand discrimination against men into the labour market.

Can you explain why you think women in these roles are equally talented to the men, given what we know about the education system?

Pale Dawn #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

I think the answer is the same for both sides of the coin. We work against those who do not maintain the social values and expectations that we want them too as you do. Pride and lust are not societal values that I want to see perpetuated and celebrated in public as positive virtues(example, example 2). We are all actively shaping the world constantly and I intend to do what I can to make it a better society than we have. The LGBTQ movement celebrates Pride and often portrays people's sexual orientations as equating to their identities. In this way I hold the lgbtq community in the same regard that i hold "players" male or female who are judged similarly for equating their vices to be their identities.

Other side of the coin you decry anyone who does not embrace and accept your equating of identity to sexual preferences.
No I don't accept or embrace that. That doesn't make my dislike for your values special or different than then others that are detracting from a well ordered and positive society.
Rejecting these things in public and shared spaces strengthens our society by embracing a society with positive values and holds people accountable for their actions. Vice is not virtuous.

Distruzio #wingnut forum.nationstates.net

Not necessarily. It’s just that religious conservatives don’t have the power and influence that they used to have, and now that they can’t force their lifestyle choice on others, they get pissed off and bitchy

Indeed. They're beginning to understand that "live and let live" was a mistake. And it confuses them (that's the bitchiness you're noticing). Religious conservatives thought that if they accepted the new rules of a NeUtRaL arbiter for justice, everyone could profit. They failed to recognize the snake in the garden. That's one thing I genuinely like about the contemporary Left... they understand that you cannot stop wielding the power once you've grabbed it. A single exception, when made, becomes an exploit that can be broadened.

Decapoleis #fundie #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

[On the topic of a piece of student artwork depicting religious trauma]

Not all parents are happy to show their children blasphemous works. It's a question of freedom of education, which is why I much prefer public schools to public ones: don't like your child's school choices? Send him to another one, the market is free!

Being LGBT is hardly blasphemous, and your usage of freedom of education is equally flawed. Your school is prohibited from discriminating against you based on religious beliefs, as clearly outlined in the First Amendment. It's the school that would be in violation, not the so-called "blaspheming" artist.

I was not talking about LGBT, the promotion of which is anti-biblical anyway, so I would understand if LGBT art were banned in a context where all or most people were Christian. By blasphemy I meant the blood-stained rosary.

And I'm not American, so I don't know about American amendments.

Helventia #fundie forum.nationstates.net

Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.

Saiwania #racist forum.nationstates.net

*It's that simple - the white vote continues to shrink as a proportion of the voting population, and even though it's still a majority, not enough whites are so mindlessly bigoted as to be anything but nauseated at such open displays of racism.*

Doesn't the fact that the White percentage of the vote is shrinking prove my fear that White people are gradually becoming extinct? Or is this trend only limited to the US in your view?

It is the simple observation that besides primarily majority White countries, most of the world's majority non-White countries are much less ethnically diverse but far outnumber White people as a percentage of human population. What should happen eventually, looking at the numbers in my mind; is the exponential decline of Whites globally as they shrink into extinction while the non-Whites will still experience exponential growth from already having a larger pool of people and not being as economically developed.

Surely White people will perish from this Earth if the demographic reality is continuously stacked against us.

Saiwana #homophobia #wingnut forum.nationstates.net

There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.

New Friedetopia #homophobia #fundie #conspiracy forum.nationstates.net

I am an Italian Catholic. Maybe you are also Italian. But my mother is Romanian and I know a little bit about the culture of the East. People in Greece tend to be traditionalist and conservative as in most Orthodox countries. The fact that such a law passed despite the negative opinions of average people means that most of the elites, while talking about democracy, don't give a damn about the opinion of the people.

The truth is that homosexual activist NGOs are favored by powers such as the U.S., France and the U.K., and the rulers of countries affected by their influence often adapt under their pressure. The map of countries where homosexual "marriage" is recognized corresponds almost exactly to the list of countries under the influence of U.S. foreign policy. Exceptions are only a few cases of countries where there is exceptionally strong resistance to such laws, such as Italy, Poland and Japan. One likely reason for this policy is that homosexual activists are considered a reliable ally of Western countries: only Western powers defend and, often, favor them, so it is understandable how gay activism has every interest in exporting Western mindsets and interests.

I personally believe that recognizing homosexual "marriage" is a failure not only religiously, but humanly.

Ineva #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

Do people choose to be attracted to the opposite sex?

No. But believe it or not, suppressing certain urges is not bad. It is an exhibition of willpower and a rejection of dangerous temptation. While I understand children may be more vulnerable to following certain desires, the issue is that they never learn to say "no." They are not progressing; they are regressing.