Fetus is a great term that the eugenicists and other fruitcakes made up to soften it up and garner more support. After all, liberals are all about changing the language. It's not sodomy, it's homosexuality. It's not disliking homosexuality for Biblical reasons, it's homo(human) phobia. It's not murder, it's abortion.
Finally, a Western country has done something sensible. For once I thought that the West is descending into chaos and anarchy because there are so many of them (it all started in 2001 with Netherlands and then most of Western Europe followed the suit - the latest being France and outside Europe the latest victim is Minnesota, USA) doing anti-Godly things by promoting homosexuality masquerading it with the same old excuse of 'human rights and equality'.I was shocked when UN recognised same sex marriage as a 'human right'. But ultimately, sensibility has prevailed. Way to go, Russia! And then the Europeans wonder why their economy is not growing- its because they are displeasing God by promoting homosexuality.
*It's that simple - the white vote continues to shrink as a proportion of the voting population, and even though it's still a majority, not enough whites are so mindlessly bigoted as to be anything but nauseated at such open displays of racism.*
Doesn't the fact that the White percentage of the vote is shrinking prove my fear that White people are gradually becoming extinct? Or is this trend only limited to the US in your view?
It is the simple observation that besides primarily majority White countries, most of the world's majority non-White countries are much less ethnically diverse but far outnumber White people as a percentage of human population. What should happen eventually, looking at the numbers in my mind; is the exponential decline of Whites globally as they shrink into extinction while the non-Whites will still experience exponential growth from already having a larger pool of people and not being as economically developed.
Surely White people will perish from this Earth if the demographic reality is continuously stacked against us.
There is no real harm in the LGBT movement being closeted because they're outlawed in Ghana. Of course they're not going to bother or look for them if they're out of sight and out of mind. This is just to prevent in Ghana the ridiculous stuff that goes on in the US on the regular like gay pride parades where the cisgender normal folks or local opposition to LGBT lobby is suppressed for being too normal or "uncool" by the liberal media and influencers.
Sorry are you calling being gay imaginary?
Yes.
It is an imaginary, arbitrary, useless "identity" used to subvert, disrupt, and eviscerate established identities/peoples.
When the electorate won't do what you want, you create a new electorate.
(In a discussion about Libs of TikTok posts causing bomb threats)
free speech is not freedom from consequences. If you lie, defraud, etc., you are punished.
Oh I agree with this, absolutely.
Especially regarding the authors of [pro-LGBT] books.
But, as I said... I am not concerned about the "free speech" angle
I am an Italian Catholic. Maybe you are also Italian. But my mother is Romanian and I know a little bit about the culture of the East. People in Greece tend to be traditionalist and conservative as in most Orthodox countries. The fact that such a law passed despite the negative opinions of average people means that most of the elites, while talking about democracy, don't give a damn about the opinion of the people.
The truth is that homosexual activist NGOs are favored by powers such as the U.S., France and the U.K., and the rulers of countries affected by their influence often adapt under their pressure. The map of countries where homosexual "marriage" is recognized corresponds almost exactly to the list of countries under the influence of U.S. foreign policy. Exceptions are only a few cases of countries where there is exceptionally strong resistance to such laws, such as Italy, Poland and Japan. One likely reason for this policy is that homosexual activists are considered a reliable ally of Western countries: only Western powers defend and, often, favor them, so it is understandable how gay activism has every interest in exporting Western mindsets and interests.
I personally believe that recognizing homosexual "marriage" is a failure not only religiously, but humanly.
Do people choose to be attracted to the opposite sex?
No. But believe it or not, suppressing certain urges is not bad. It is an exhibition of willpower and a rejection of dangerous temptation. While I understand children may be more vulnerable to following certain desires, the issue is that they never learn to say "no." They are not progressing; they are regressing.
Do you actually have evidence that such is true, or are you going to continue parroting a terrorist?
[Chaya Raichik] shows it to be true.
She's not a terrorist.
The "LGBTQ" movement are child rapists under civil rights protection
No, I highly doubt you know how I think because we've never met or spoken on a personal level. I use common sense to understand the fact that homosexuality is wrong no matter how you look at it. Even if you look at it from a religious or atheist point of view, homosexuality is unnatural regardless of your stance. At least with heterosexuality, there is an outcome that results from opposite sex relationships that benefit society. There is no such benefit with homosexuality. So I don't an excuse to speak about homosexuality. No excuse is needed. If I see something is wrong, I'm going to speak up about it. The only defense you have is that there is a large, vocal minority people with a lot of money and thus a lot of political power, pushing the issue in society, and push people to accept something that most of the world believes is wrong.
[after a bunch of links showing that gay conversion (or cure your gay) camps don't work, followed by some roundabout arguing about science]
Again going back to the Church. Thats not what this is about. Can people just stop persecuting Christians? I know Jesus said it would be bad but geez. Thats not the topic of this discussion. My point was that perhaps you can be an ex-homosexual, and Science hasn't yet discovered that it it is wrong on that issue. If I was a an ex homosexual I would be pretty pissed that I had gone through all that work and people are telling me "it doesn't exist" So what, someone can become a homosexual later in life but it can't go the other way.
WARNING : THIS IS NOT A BLOG POST. THIS IS INFORMATION FOR A DISCUSSION.
This is just too much.
Aurora Colorado Shootings
12 deaths, 58 injuries
Suspect : James Holmes
Sandy Hook Elementary Shootings
28 deaths, 2 injured
Suspect : Adam Lanza
Christopher Dorner Shootout
4 deaths, some casaulties
Suspect : Christopher Dorner
Many more minor but deadly shootings happened throughout the 2012-2013 but about 3-4 like I mentioned were the biggest. But why did these have so many headlines? Why are all the death numbers an even number?
and now my friends, we have the Santa Monica Shooting. It was only a small number of deaths luckily, 4.
SOURCE: http://abcnews.go.com/US/santa-monica-shootings-suspect-identified-john-zawahri/story?id=19359338#.UbTJsPm1GSo
These have got to be a complete set-up. Don't mistake me, the deaths are real, but the motives? We all get the same information. Crazy, lunatics with a gun out to kill. Same shit, different day.
But you need to remember, lives are at stake here. I think there is a secret gun control cult out there sending out suicidal agents to kill and push the gun control bill to congress by creating an orchestra of calculated massacres on not only the American people, but the people of the world. You might recognize the name of Anders Behring Breivik, a Norwegian shooter who killed 77 deaths and over 200 casualties. And that is a huge, huge death toll that happened in a country that's got a lot of liberals. See no one is safe. Now and then, the liberal countries get shot up to attempt to prove to you guns are evil.
It''s sickening.
Now is the government behind this? No. Governments would never do this actually. Many conspiracy theorists think the governments or the corporations are out to get you and do evil things like this. This is a people conspiracy. The people are behind this. The people are out there, organized into these cults to kill and to manipulate the governments. The Govenment has become the victim, not the villain! It's the complete opposite. What we feared most of a very controlling authoritarian, fascist government, is actually a reverse-oppressive-democracy. The Government is a puppet to the evil citizens.
Don't point your fingers at the government, point your fingers at the people. The people are plotting these massacres to get the guns taken away!!!!!!!!!
Now,
Your thoughts?
I imagine places such as the Middle East and the more rural parts of South America will one day be known as the "last bastions of religion". In other words, it's purpose has been served, and more and more people are waking up to reality.
It’s Porpoise has hardly been served. Belive me, People cannot survive a Meaningless life like what Atheism Offers. Because in an Atheist Society, Your tiny, miniscule, Worthless. No one would care if you were to Kill yourself. Such a Sad Existence has no place in Life.
Much has been said about rational reasons on the desire for monarchy: order, stability, hierarchy, etc. Some even simply find the aestheticism of the monarchy to be endearing, or they desire the tourist revenue from this. However, while God has gifted us with reason, we are not machines, for God has also gifted us with emotion, which serves to drive reason towards goals to be accomplished. For without our emotions, we have no desires and therefore nothing to direct our reason towards. CS Lewis writes that men have a desire for monarchy, and if not sated with a monarch, it will latch itself to wasteful men. I contend that this desire for a monarch is not rational or political, but rather is erotic. What I mean by this is less that it is sexual (though there certainly is an aspect of the sexual) than that it is based on a romantic love. It is not a platonic, or passive love, but is a desirous, possessive, and therefore erotic love that we bear for a monarch. Rather than being shameful or excessive, in this context, erotic love is rendered its most noble, it is the most Christlike expression of love. When Christ loves us, he does so erotically, so the Fathers say, in that he desires to obtain us for salvation. Likewise, when we love God, we desire to possess him, to acquire his grace and love. Likewise, when we love a monarch, it is out of a desire for his rule. This erotic desire for a rightful, lawful king exists even in those who explicitly despise the institution of monarchy. Speak to the most ardent anarchist of Nestor Makhno, and watch his or her eyes glaze over with tears and their voice begin to tremble with admiration, and you will see plainly their desire for him. The people will seek a lawful king even in the absence of a monarchy, and if there are no lawful kings to be found, they will find unlawful, or base monarchs to appease them, and this is what CS Lewis speaks of.
Just as Christ woos or seduces us towards virtue and salvation through his own virtue, a lawful (i.e. virtuous) King seduces our desire for such as himself, for the institution of the monarchy is a miniaturized icon of the marriage of Christ and the Church, of bridegroom and bride. It is, then, an icon of a marriage, for the monarch is not only married to his physical bride, but to his spiritual bride (i.e. the people over which he rules). A lawful king, therefore, is one who rules with an erotic or romantic love towards his "bride", that is, desiring to possess them, and to charm them with his actions, to prove himself worthy of such a fair bride. It is an unlawful king that is neglectful in his love, or who behaves with simple beastly lust, who commits adultery against his bride through pursuing only his own interests at the expense of his bride. Who is flamboyant but without beauty, for beauty is found not only in aesthetics, but in nobility of character. A monarchist is not merely one who believes a monarchy is just, but one who desires a monarch, even if it is a monarch of their heart's desire, and not a living man. Like all people who choose their bridegroom, there is the danger of a poorly made match, of being wedded to an unvirtuous monarch. In such a case, the monarch is unlawful in that his desire for his bride is not genuine, and as such the people maintain their right for a divorce, and to crown a rightful, lawful king. This is not lawlessness, but rather the law of nature, for when adultery is committed, it is a crime not only against the bride, but against God and the covenant, and is a crime which cries out to all humanity to correct by divorce, for erotic immorality was one of the great crimes against which the Law and the Prophets speak against, and which Christ and the Apostles condemn. However, erotic love fulfilled with continence, loyalty, and marriage, is virtuous and a great calling from God. And it is this which is the basis of monarchy. Rather than social contract, it is spiritual contract, for man and wife are anointed by God to follow their love.
Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.
Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.
I myself do not hate the LGBTQ community, however I am against it and the entire month itself. I’m surprised that most people from the community haven’t noticed that businesses just use the month for money.
Mark 10:6-9 ~ But from the beginning of creation, ‘God made them male and female.’ ‘Therefore a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man separate.”
Leviticus 20:13 ~ If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.
Yet again, I want to clarify, I love everyone I just disagree with a lot of them.
Please tell me why canceling and calling Christians "homophobes" for disagreeing with Homosexuality on Biblical grounds isn't bigoted bullying. Please tell me why burning down non-Leftist regions on Nationstates that never attacked anyone isn't bigoted bullying. Please tell me why me being attacked for being against the various ideals of the Left, such as Marxism and Homosexuality for honest non-hateful reasons isn't bigoted bullying.
*In a thread about LGBT media becoming mainstream*
I didn't know those songs/bands were pro-lgbt..
Unfortunately, it is becoming more and more of a trend, again. Well, I hope the lgbt culture is not going to influence normal people's culture too much. I suppose there will be a big market for bi/gay/lesbian/trans etc, though don't expect non-lgbt people to buy any of those content, which (I suppose) can be seen from the scarcity of lgbt content in the stores. At the moment it is not so much mainstream, but I feel there is a constant increase in that when attitudes change and people become increasingly atheist.
(during a tangent about genocide of native Americans in the 1800s, unrelated to the main discussion)
We taught the Native Americans Christian values and saved them from their separation from God. We also gave them vast tracts of free land where they could govern themselves. How is that "genocide"?
Look, Christians do not hate gays, we in fact love them. When I say this, I truly mean it. Rather than trying to oppress them, what we are in fact doing is more akin to an intervention to help those whom we love stop living such an unhealthy and morally damaging lifestyle. They might not be hurting other people, but I do not think it is any coincidence that mental illness is many degrees worse among homosexuals, especially transgenders, than others, nor can I bring myself to ignore the fact that a disproportionate amount of them were molested as children, and it would be wilfully ignorant for me to pretend that homosexual promiscuity is not responsible for the spread and proliferation of AIDS and HIV around the world, along with many other lesser STDs due to the fact that homosexuals are so much more promiscuous and prone to unsafe sex than sexually healthy people. Finally, and most importantly of all, as Christians we must accept Bibical truth wherever possible, even if modern society disdains the truth, and so even if we end up living in a world in which gay "marriage" is legal in every part of every nation, all good Christians will continue to shout from the rooftops that this is wrong. The fact that all these social and health problems have arisen as a result of the acceptance of homosexuality as "normal" serves to show that, once again, the Word of God is indeed the best rulebook by which to run society and live one's life.
Sometimes, it is right to help someone even if they are only harming themselves. Just as I would want to see a heroin addict kick his habit, I also want to see homosexuals kick their habit. You are almost certainly the same on other issues that have not yet been pushed upon you since youth by the media. Take incest for example. I assume you are not a proponent of brothers and sisters legally having sex and even marrying simply because they are "consenting adults" who "aren't hurtning anyone"? Or what about bestiality? Before you tell me that "animals can't consent", consider the case of a man on Loveline who described how he "presents" and lets his dog enter him from behind. The very act is initiated by the dog and therefore is consensual. Is this sort of thing okay to you? Can you support this just because the dog and the man are having consensual sex and "aren't hurting anyone"? Please consider all of these things as well as all the other possible sexual perversions out there that could someday be argued are "normal" for the same reasons you currently believe homosexuality to be healthy and non-damaging. Sometimes, even if it might hurt their feelings, we must do all that is within our power to save a person. I care a lot more about the eternal soul of people caught up in the gay lifestyle than I do about their hurt feelings between now and their redemption.
But the underlining cause is homosexuality itself homosexuality is not a permanent state were thos who are homosexuals are born that way no it mainly stems for the persons upbringing such as sexual abuse as a child etc can lead to homosexuality we must not treat homosexuality as a ethnic grouping it must be handled as a disorder not a state of being we must cure not ignore.
evendence.
Richard P. Fitzgibbons, MD, Director of Comprehensive Counseling Services at a sate psychiatric research center, wrote in a Jan. 24, 2014 letter to the World heath organization:
"There is substantial evidence based on years of clinical experience that homosexuality is a developmental disorder.
Every child has a healthy need to identify positively with the parent of the same sex, have same-sex friendships, a positive body image and a confident sexual identity. Homosexual feelings can occur when these needs are not met appropriately.
The adolescent's unmet needs become entangled with emerging sexual feelings and produce same-sex attraction.
Therapy consists in helping male clients to understand the emotional causes of their attraction and to strengthen their masculine identity. It has been our clinical experience that as these men become more conformable and confident with their manhood, same-sex attractions resolve or decrease significantly in many patients."
[In a thread about Colombia legalizing same sex marriage.]
terrible news
Latin America was meant to be very Catholic as well, what a shame.
[Kautharr used homophobia.
But nothing happened.]
I don't care if you call me a homophobe or any other regressive leftist buzzword, I'm proud to be a homophobe and idrc if you call me one.
Everything is wrong with miscegenation. It destroys the physical appearance of a race
[So there we were, the Black race and the White race, and from one moment to another, wouldn't you know, BOOM!
Our physical appearance got destroyed by miscegenation. Horrible. Just horrible.]
Yes. Horrible. I don't care how pretty she is.
Ancestral genome has been completely destroyed. And she is the personification of that destruction. She is called a hybrid.
I have a confession to make; I was bullied when I was in grammar school, and I went to both state run and private schools during my time in grammar school. In both, I was bulled and the staff did little to nothing to stop it. I also grew up with homosexual attractions while I was in the private grammar school which was also a very conservative Roman Catholic School. But I survived and I am still very thankful for my Roman Catholic education for providing me an great education not only on the “ 3 R’S” but on moral values and ethics.
Now, I must say, at the time, the bullying seemed to have no real value. I was bullied because of me weight, of a tumor I had on right side of my cheek, a small pony tail that I used to have, of my learning disability and my alleged and actually true homosexual “crush” on another student, which was actually my first “crush.” But unlike today, I fought back. Well, I did not really fight anyone, I “ripped” on them back.
Today, I hardly talk to them and when I do, we just laugh at it. People mature and people move on. I strongly believe that a bully in his childhood is a bully in his/her adulthood. And if they are, they are most likely just passive-aggressive arses.
Without the bullying that I went through as a child and early teenager, I would not able to survive in adult world today. I had have supervisors that were just plain dicks, and guess what, I am still living. If you can’t handle grammar, middle and high school and the bullies that come with it, then I’m sorry, you are the problem, not the bully.
Currently, especially in the U.S, we seem to have an all of a sudden focus on children and teenagers that are homosexual. There are claims that we need to protect them from the bullies because if someone “harasses” based on their sexuality, they are “harmed” so how. That they need to be a protected class because—well I haven’t really heard a reason why from the advocate for it.
Firstly, I grew up homosexual in a Roman Catholic private school, I was told every day that people like myself was going to hell. In fact, my private school and parish went one step further and preached that even having homosexual attractions was a sin, let alone acting on them. So, I felt like crap and at times, I did want to kill myself. But guess what? I survived through the medicine.
Yes, I am saying that the bullying of homosexual teens is beneficial to them, because it will teach them how to fight back and that not everyone is going to accept homosexuality just because it is “the right and smart thing to do”. There is going to ignorant people out there and people are going to “cling to their religion”, deal with it. It will also teach them not to be ahem...overly expressive in professional environments.
10 Reasons Why Homosexual “Marriage” is Harmful and not compatible with Christianity.
1. It Is Not Marriage
Calling something marriage does not make it marriage. Marriage has always been a covenant between a man and a woman which is by its nature ordered toward the procreation and education of children and the unity and wellbeing of the spouses.
The promoters of same-sex “marriage” propose something entirely different. They propose the union between two men or two women. This denies the self-evident biological, physiological, and psychological differences between men and women which find their complementarity in marriage. It also denies the specific primary purpose of marriage: the perpetuation of the human race and the raising of children.
Two entirely different things cannot be considered the same thing.
2. It Violates Natural Law
Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It is a relationship rooted in human nature and thus governed by natural law.
Natural law’s most elementary precept is that “good is to be done and pursued, and evil is to be avoided.” By his natural reason, man can perceive what is morally good or bad for him. Thus, he can know the end or purpose of each of his acts and how it is morally wrong to transform the means that help him accomplish an act into the act’s purpose.
Any situation which institutionalizes the circumvention of the purpose of the sexual act violates natural law and the objective norm of morality.
Being rooted in human nature, natural law is universal and immutable. It applies to the entire human race, equally. It commands and forbids consistently, everywhere and always. Saint Paul taught in the Epistle to the Romans that the natural law is inscribed on the heart of every man. (Rom. 2:14-15)
3. It Always Denies a Child Either a Father or a Mother
It is in the child’s best interests that he be raised under the influence of his natural father and mother. This rule is confirmed by the evident difficulties faced by the many children who are orphans or are raised by a single parent, a relative, or a foster parent.
The unfortunate situation of these children will be the norm for all children of a same-sex “marriage.” A child of a same-sex “marriage” will always be deprived of either his natural mother or father. He will necessarily be raised by one party who has no blood relationship with him. He will always be deprived of either a mother or a father role model.
Same-sex “marriage” ignores a child’s best interests.
4. It Validates and Promotes the Homosexual Lifestyle
In the name of the “family,” same-sex “marriage” serves to validate not only such unions but the whole homosexual lifestyle in all its bisexual and transgender variants.
Civil laws are structuring principles of man's life in society. As such, they play a very important and sometimes decisive role in influencing patterns of thought and behavior. They externally shape the life of society, but also profoundly modify everyone’s perception and evaluation of forms of behavior.
Legal recognition of same-sex “marriage” would necessarily obscure certain basic moral values, devalue traditional marriage, and weaken public morality.
5. It Turns a Moral Wrong into a Civil Right
Homosexual activists argue that same-sex “marriage” is a civil rights issue similar to the struggle for racial equality in the 1960s.
This is false.
First of all, sexual behavior and race are essentially different realities. A man and a woman wanting to marry may be different in their characteristics: one may be black, the other white; one rich, the other poor; or one tall, the other short. None of these differences are insurmountable obstacles to marriage. The two individuals are still man and woman, and thus the requirements of nature are respected.
Same-sex “marriage” opposes nature. Two individuals of the same sex, regardless of their race, wealth, stature, erudition or fame, will never be able to marry because of an insurmountable biological impossibility.
Secondly, inherited and unchangeable racial traits cannot be compared with non-genetic and changeable behavior. There is simply no analogy between the interracial marriage of a man and a woman and the “marriage” between two individuals of the same sex.
6. It Does Not Create a Family but a Naturally Sterile Union
Traditional marriage is usually so fecund that those who would frustrate its end must do violence to nature to prevent the birth of children by using contraception. It naturally tends to create families.
On the contrary, same-sex “marriage” is intrinsically sterile. If the “spouses” want a child, they must circumvent nature by costly and artificial means or employ surrogates. The natural tendency of such a union is not to create families.
Therefore, we cannot call a same-sex union marriage and give it the benefits of true marriage.
7. It Defeats the State’s Purpose of Benefiting Marriage
One of the main reasons why the State bestows numerous benefits on marriage is that by its very nature and design, marriage provides the normal conditions for a stable, affectionate, and moral atmosphere that is beneficial to the upbringing of children—all fruit of the mutual affection of the parents. This aids in perpetuating the nation and strengthening society, an evident interest of the State.
Homosexual “marriage” does not provide such conditions. Its primary purpose, objectively speaking, is the personal gratification of two individuals whose union is sterile by nature. It is not entitled, therefore, to the protection the State extends to true marriage.
8. It Imposes Its Acceptance on All Society
By legalizing same-sex “marriage,” the State becomes its official and active promoter. The State calls on public officials to officiate at the new civil ceremony, orders public schools to teach its acceptability to children, and punishes any state employee who expresses disapproval.
In the private sphere, objecting parents will see their children exposed more than ever to this new “morality,” businesses offering wedding services will be forced to provide them for same-sex unions, and rental property owners will have to agree to accept same-sex couples as tenants.
In every situation where marriage affects society, the State will expect Christians and all people of good will to betray their consciences by condoning, through silence or act, an attack on the natural order and Christian morality.
9. It Is the Cutting Edge of the Sexual Revolution
In the 1960s, society was pressured to accept all kinds of immoral sexual relationships between men and women. Today we are seeing a new sexual revolution where society is being asked to accept sodomy and same-sex “marriage.”
If homosexual “marriage” is universally accepted as the present step in sexual “freedom,” what logical arguments can be used to stop the next steps of incest, pedophilia, bestiality, and other forms of unnatural behavior? Indeed, radical elements of certain “avant garde” subcultures are already advocating such aberrations.
The railroading of same-sex “marriage” on the American people makes increasingly clear what homosexual activist Paul Varnell wrote in the Chicago Free Press:
"The gay movement, whether we acknowledge it or not, is not a civil rights movement, not even a sexual liberation movement, but a moral revolution aimed at changing people's view of homosexuality."
10. It Offends God
This is the most important reason. Whenever one violates the natural moral order established by God, one sins and offends God. Same-sex “marriage” does just this. Accordingly, anyone who professes to love God must be opposed to it.
Marriage is not the creature of any State. Rather, it was established by God in Paradise for our first parents, Adam and Eve. As we read in the Book of Genesis: “God created man in His image; in the Divine image he created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them, saying: ‘Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it.’” (Gen. 1:28-29)
The same was taught by Our Savior Jesus Christ: “From the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female. For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother; and shall cleave to his wife.” (Mark 10:6-7).
Genesis also teaches how God punished Sodom and Gomorrah for the sin of homosexuality: “The Lord rained down sulphurous fire upon Sodom and Gomorrah. He overthrew those cities and the whole Plain, together with the inhabitants of the cities and the produce of the soil.” (Gen. 19:24-25)
One of my friends came forward and told me he was an atheist. I asked him why he was an atheist and he said, "I prayed to God for help, but he never helped me." That's no reason to disbelieve in God. Do you atheists seriously think he will help you with everything. Creator put you on earth to fix your mistakes. He won't solve the problems you caused. And stop blaming him for taking away people you care about. It's not his fault you failed or lost someone.
Those who disbelieve in God are what I call 'clouded minds'. You don't realise you are one until you are freed from corruption. I know from experience. I was once a disbeliever and then came to realise that people are not educated on who God actually is and how religion and science can coexist.
Atheism should be banned because it is very wrong. I seriously think these atheists should read the Bible! I hate it when some kids these days say that they are atheist, it is absolutely WRONG.
Every Christian knows Atheists have no morals because they think they can ignore God’s Holy Bible. Some of them even deny the existence of Hell! They murder, steal and rape all the time as if there is no tomorrow. It is no coincidence that most criminals are Atheists. It is time to stop all this! It is a known fact that Atheists like nothing more but killing unborn children (abortion) and defenseless elders (euthanasia).
Christians know that life begins BEFORE conception: Jeremiah 1:5 “Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.”
Only Christians realize that murder is bad: Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill.”
There can be only one conclusion! Atheism has to be outlawed, just like the Bible tells us: 2nd Chronicles 15:13 “That whosoever would not seek the LORD God of Israel should be put to death, whether small or great, whether man or woman”.
(Talking about transgender people)
There's no contradiction. Most religious people don't see people possessed with devils as evil themselves, but victims of a malady that has taken hold of their mind.
(Conversation context wouldn’t fit in the character limit)
Hmm, I knew had SSA before middle school. I went a Catholic school from 3rd-8th grade, and homosexuality was brought up once in a Catholic sex-Ed lesson, that I actually missed that day. It was in 6th or 7th grade. The series was form the 80s and was called “In God’s image”
Either way, it’s not the Schools place to affirm one’s sexual feelings, attractions or actions. People go to school for an education, not to be indoctrinated into a leftist view of sexuality. The fact that the far-left and the radical LGBT activists want to expose young children to their lifestyle is deeply disturbing. I mean, the LGBT activists have tried their hardest to end the notion that LGBT adults recruit children, which I have personal experience with when I went to a church that was a MCC Church. At that time I was only 14-15 and I was sexually accosted.
The topic of homosexuality and transgenderism shouldn’t be brought up until high school.
This is the last reply I’m giving you. You blasphemous “joke” of the most Holy Trinity was unacceptable. Once again, you will be in my prayers.
Okay reading the ballots there are a lot of idiots here
Same sex marriage= Same sex Intercourse and that (BLEH) = No reproduction rate = DEATH OF HUMANITY
Lord save me and the 14 people that actually have common sense
this is what i feel the people who passed this law keep doing:
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How is gay adoption harmful?
The purpose of adoption is to rebuild broken families. Gay couples aren't families. Therefore, "gay adoption" doesn't serve the purpose of adoption. That's harmful because the purpose of adoption is good, so failing to serve it is bad. Also, gays are evil so their influence in society should be limited as much as possible in general in order to contain the spread of the evil and their influence over a child would be quite enormous.
Amen!
The left is insane with their social liberalist agenda of forcing their beliefs on other people; it's absurd. I was only ranked a libertarian on a quiz when I opposed government same-sex marriage. Evangelicals and I almost want to say Christians should oppose government same-sex marriage because unless the government is going to return marriage to the churches, it is an example of the government actively endorsing homosexuality by changing the definition of marriage. Furthermore, those groups aren't satisfied when agreeing to leave the individual alone they prefer active lobbying forcing their corrupted morality on other people. When Congress or the states won't do something the left will cheat through judicial activism. I would favor something like a domestic partnership or civil union that is something like a business pack where 2 males agree to be responsible for each other that isn't necessarily homosexual.
If i ran for president while I hate porn there's nothing or onley little i can do to oppose it as president. Liberals now wish to indocranate children with homosexuality through books and tv shows.
Transgendersim for children use to be seen as child abuse now its a human right to a demcrate.
(On Alan Turing being pardoned of his conviction of homosexuality)
What's next. Pardons for pedophiles?
The reason why it's such a heated issue is that it's not just personal.
Yeah. The personal is political. Everything is political. Which means that no one can ever get away from you. Your crap is everywhere. That's why people are sick of you -- and not just political junkies like me but everyone outside your clique.
Trans people being domestically abused, denied treatment, forced through conversion camps, it's societal & institutional.
You (not just transgender but the entire "woke" tribe) are the most ridiculously overprivileged people on this planet. Every movie, every TV show, every book, every record label, every streaming site, every social media platform, every university, every institution universally supports your every whim. The complete pipeline from made up nonsense victim category being invented deep within the depths of Tumblr to it being discussed seriously before the United States Congress as if it were a genuine concern about discrimination against a real marginalized community in need of legislative remedy is getting to being measured in weeks rather than months at this point. There is nothing which could even conceivably be changed which would make you get your way more from the current system than you currently get besides punishing your political enemies more out of purely malicious vindictive spite. You run the world. You own Capitalism. You even get to enshrine your opinions as Science thanks to your controlling that too. It's time to stop pretending you're not in the position you are in fact in.
I should be surprised that we have an individual here vehemently defending certain people's "right" to be an unopposed shitbag. But it's 2022 and I've seen more than enough shit to desensitise me
Well, that may be because you appear to believe sexual orientation/gender identity is akin to race and ethnicity. I don’t. Being a POC isn’t a lifestyle, being LGBT is.
I disagree. Part of the problem is that we need to work against an institutional bias. If we focused on just making everything equal legally, said extralegal bias would remain, so to counter that, the law needs to put its thuimb on the scale a bit.
No. There will always be bias. This is a psychological component of a person. A common example is interracial couples. The human brain immediately perceives this as disgusting, abnormal. A person's beliefs about this topic do not affect the reaction in any way. Real, true, without processing. Same with homosexual couples. No matter what position a person takes, no matter how he supports it, he will subconsciously be disgusted by it. Of course, a person will reject it, or even not understand it.
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I am for the fact that if people want equality, absolute equality should be given. No "privileges". Otherwise, sooner or later it will turn into the opposite discrimination. Personally, I do not support all these movements, I mean LGBT. However, I understand that the orientation is innate, and therefore it cannot be influenced in any way. I would even compromise: same-sex marriages are allowed, true legal equality is coming, however, any propaganda of non-traditional orientation is prohibited.
Considering that anti-LGBT hate crimes have been on the rise, and conservative states keep trying to take away their rights, I'd say they have good reason to feel under attack, and perhaps oppressed.
And these are just different views on life. In fact, I have little interest in the relationship with LGBT people in other countries.
No, what is sickening from my perspective is being expected to just pretend or go along with the notion (from people I see as rediculous) that men can be women and women can be men, rather than your sex being set at birth/in the womb like was the case for most of entire world history among our species.
I want a chance with my biological "other half" as the Garden of Eden fable describes. Not some artificial creation that is an abomination at worst and a poor imitation at best in my view. I will choose staying virgin forever if the only alternative was being intimate with an MtF that passes as a woman.
Why do you guys support homosexualism???
[Homosexualism? What are you selling? The term is homosexuality. And to answer your question, it's because it's bigoted, silly and utterly backwards to say that two people of same gender who love each other can't get married the same way a straight couple can.]
Are you saying that submitting to the will of God is backwards? Sorry, but people of the same gender can't ever have a real marriage or love.
Homosexuality is an act of treason against the state.
(Later)
Homosexuality (which does not naturally exist) is a treasonous attempt to subjugate the state by reducing the population, therefore weakening the military.
On The Distribution of Spouses
I was pondering on the right to life when an idea popped into my mind. The right to life is among the most important, if not the most important right, we have as human beings - it is among the highest of all natural rights. But life is not just our current lives, but our children are continuations of our lives and just as we are the continuation of the lives of our ancestors. Marriage is the optimum way in which new life is created.
Governments are also supposed to enforce rights and not let them fall into neglect. Unfortunately, as can be seen with the likes of incels and even worse, MGTOW community, this right to life has been neglected. So what is to be done by the government in such a case? The distribution of spouses.
I propose that each heterosexual person be placed into a lottery system - both male and female. Once the person is called up, they are to be paired with the other person drawn from the lottery alongside them. They are then to be man and wife, preferably for the rest of their lives. It is not too drastic of a change from arranged marriages, which have served humanity well. This would ensure that every person has a spouse and thus better further ones chances of continuing their lives than our current courtship system does. Further, the lottery system would help ensure that the rich are less able to bribe their way into being pared with high quality mates - the poor should not be punished and I consider myself to be a friend of the poor.
This system would further reduce crime, as women calm men's darkest tendencies, and improve the economy through reduced crime, increased happiness, and a far more stable labor force that is self-replicating (as natalist policies should naturally be enacted in any system, not just this one).
Agree or Disagree?
(Submitter's note: He also uses the Croatian flag...)
Should There Be A Right To Fornicate?
I dont think so. Little good has come from it, all the worlds ills can be traced back to this action. Obviously this is deeply ingrained, but it's about time we as a people moved on from it.
Should we euthanize orphans?
I was watching CNN the other day and they were doing a segment on animal euthanasia in Japan. They are so flooded over there that they decided that if animals aren’t adopted they should be put in a metal box and gassed. I was thinking, here in the US we have a broken welfare system and dozens of kids in care who nobody wants to adopt, most will probably turn into criminals and end up in prison or death row. Maybe it would be better if we euthanized the orphans nobody wants, we’ll be saving them from a horrible life and society from juvenile delinquents and future crimes. With the money we save with euthanasia, we could spend it on those families that do adopt making sure they are financially supported and that the adopted kids have access to good schools, sports and psychological care maybe even college.
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@Third Asopia
To be honest I am not in favour. Why euthanise an orphan when he has a bright future in front of him? I know his parents died, but he still has a future. Everyone does. Unless you are at the last stages, then yes, because you have completed the most important parts of life. But, an orphan? Who's probably young? Come on. There's something better than euthanasia.
Well, most orphans get bounced around from home to home so they’re constantly being psychologically traumatized. Orphanages are hell holes. Unadopted orphans are like an anchor weighing down the welfare system, if we can cut them loose we can save money to spend supporting successful adoptions. Many uncared for orphans will end up in prison. Instead, why not save everyone trouble and euthanize a small number to benefit the rest? It’s nice to believe that everyone has a bright future but that’s not true. Let’s support the ones that are likely to succeed and rather than torturing those that won’t by throwing them from home to home or dumping them in orphanages that are more like prisons than homes, we should have the option of euthanizing them humanely.
[Submitter's note: Thread got euthanised within a day]
*Discussion is about Archbishop Desmond Tutu saying he would not worship a homophobic god*
Eh, Tutu ceased to be of any relevance a long time ago. This is just one of his latest bids for attention.
The guy never should have been admitted to a church, anyroad. He's hardly a model Christian.
[Thankfully most sane countries do not consider what the Bible says to be important when making the law.
and by doing so embraces moral degeneration and leftist secular agenda
It is very unfortunate that Christianity is declining in America. Young people are being indoctrinated in anti-Christian views. If this trend doesn't stop, America may become like the USSR. I am glad to be Christian. Young white people appear to be the most affected by this indoctrination.
*In response saying that racism is not natural and that it is engineered and institutionalized by the ruling classes*
Really? After over 50 years since the end of segregation, our schools, churches, and neighborhoods remain just as segregated as they've always been, even though people now have more of a choice to live amongst other people.
Seems like people enjoy being segregated.
(Several posts, a while after copy-pasta spam about how the big bang can't have happened.)
you cannot use math to prove reality. If you did, alot of stuff would be really messed up.
(Questioned.)
because math is unreliable.
(Proven wrong.)
Ok, the math in a book is absolute. But the numbers that scientist say the universe run on change. Like the speed of light is going down at a very unconstant speed.
My opinion? Honest and for true?
I have, in all my time, never liked LGBT rights and the whatnot. We have a family friend who is a lesbian, when I was 16 my mother brought one of her gay friends home and I was VERY afraid he was hitting on me, and throughout my life there has been one pervasive thought:
This. Is. Wrong.
My story:
My grandfather, his name will obviously not be disclosed, fought on the loosing sight of WWII with his brother who got the short end of the stick and was sent to the Eastern front. Now your probably wondering why the holy hell this matters, and I shall tell you. While there he was killed and, upon receiving the news, my great grandmother died. Now my grandfather, who was apparently very nice before that, was just enraged. Blame blame and more blame was pretty much the story, and he turned from a normal Wehrmacht soldier to a very angry Nazi.
When the war ended he stayed in Germany until 1973(West) when he moved to Indiana with his wife where my uncle was born then later my father, both of them pretty much given the same ideals as my grandfather. If your starting to see a chain reaction here good on you, because it's not going to be changing much. When I was very young I was in the Vernon town park and I saw two guys kissing and upon witnessing it my comment to my father on the topic was so OUTRAGEOUS I got sent to my grandparents house for a bit of education.
So, if you bothered reading the story, here is the outcome.
I don't like LGBT people that much, and I can stand talking to you on the internet because we are not face to face. It's wrong, I have been educated to believe it is wrong, and I will never accept it.
*During a thread on Affirmative Action*
Many white liberals love playing the role of hero to blacks whom they view as helpless children. It makes them feel superior to be 'helpful' to the 'poor and ignorant blacks' who need a great white hero to save them. Liberals are sometimes the biggest racists around. They talk about encouraging black pride and then say that blacks can't compete fairly with whites.
I think every race should be expected to stand on their own 2 feet. Treat everybody equal and lets see how things turn out.
(the topic is a non-religious woman wants to get a different councilor because the one the court ordered her to go to decided to open every session with a prayer)
Right, the fucking line has been crossed. This woman disobeyed a court order, she can rot in a cell for all I care. All you have served to do is reinforced the fact that atheists are evil, untrustworthy and unable to change. Fuck atheists and fuck the U.S Constitution. Go ahead and make your disparaging comments about me, because I'm not going to look at them. Australia for life!
*Ironically the more Religious countries, tend to be the more crime and poverty infested.*
That's because they don't follow a real religion like Christianity
