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The U.S. Supreme Court hears a landmark case on gender identity and sex Tuesday, in oral arguments for R.G. & G.R. Harris Funeral Homes Inc. v. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. James Shupe offered his perspective in an amicus brief for that case.
The following is an interview between me and Shupe, who made waves for being the first “legally non-binary person” in the United States. Shupe achieved clarity through therapy, and returned to life as his birth sex even though the LGBT community shunned him. He’s begun to share his story and speak out against the dangers of transgender medicine.

In 2016, an Oregon circuit court ruled Shupe could change his gender to nonbinary, the first legal ruling of his kind. LGBT activists lauded it as a landmark decision that now plagues Shupe.
Here’s a closer look at his experience living as the opposite sex, regretting it, returning to live as his birth sex, and becoming a vocal opponent of transgender medicine altogether. This transcript has been edited for clarity and length.
For readers who may be unaware of your journey, describe why you decided to become the “first legally non-binary person” in the United States?
I experienced a major mental health crisis at age 49. I began researching psychiatric issues on the internet. It didn’t take very long for me to stumble upon gender identity disorder, transgenderism, and transsexualism.
At first, I was skeptical that I could actually be a female based on this newly discovered thing called “gender identity,” something I’d never heard of before because I’d always understood myself to be a male. But numerous medical and media articles describing mental health issues disappearing after undergoing a gender transition quickly convinced me that I was a woman and that transition would fix me. I also discovered the Department of Veterans Affairs had a newly launched transgender medical care program [that] erased all of my doubts completely.

At the time, I was especially vulnerable to being duped into believing that I was actually a female trapped in a male body despite not feeling like one for two reasons. 1) I had fragile mental health and was desperate for a cure. 2) During my military career, I’d often cross-dressed for sexual pleasure and had an attraction for men while dressed as a woman, a problem I’d acted out on during several occasions.
So this newly discovered information about being a female because of gender identity based on “feeling like a woman” was a much more palatable explanation for what I had previously understood my behavior to be per military regulations: transvestism.
So, armed with this new information and false beliefs about myself, I immediately began identifying as a transgender woman, mimicking the role of a stereotypical female, and taking female hormones. I also planned to undergo a vaginoplasty surgery to have my penis cosmetically reshaped into a vagina. I was born in 1963, so I’m older than the theory of gender identity, a term first used for transsexuals in 1966 when John Hopkins opened their gender clinic.
Unfortunately, all of this turned out to be delusional thinking. By the end of the charade, I’d come to the realization that my sex change was a failure and a hoax and by then I was just as desperate to escape being legally classified as female as I was previously was to solve my mental health problems.

After a good-faith period of participation in the grand gender experiment, I came to believe the whole thing was smoke and mirrors, complete quackery. By then I knew I wasn’t a female and like others before me, I had similarly discovered by trial and error that changing your sex is impossible. You could say that becoming non-binary gave me the means to save face and as a byproduct, I became famous for doing so.
What does it mean to become non-binary?
Like everything else with gender, non-binary is a made-up term. It’s a “catch-all” terminology for all of the transgender identities that fall outside of male and female. It can mean anything from you think of yourself as transmasculine or transfeminine, or neither male or female, or even a combination of the two.
How long did it take before you realized your quest to become non-binary was actually a result of trauma?
It wasn’t until late 2018 and early 2019 after two psychiatric hospitalizations that I was able to face up to the truth about myself and my sexual behaviors. Once I was willing to do that, I became familiarized with what Dr. Ray Blanchard had correctly theorized about men like me decades ago: that I am sexually attracted and aroused by the idea of myself as a female.
Dr. Blanchard claims there are two types of transgender women: homosexuals attracted to men, and men who are attracted to the thought or image of themselves as females. The latter is the most prominent population group in western countries, and sadly that’s the motivation for all of these middle-aged men such as myself who begin to believe they are women after what’s essentially a sexual fetish has been undiagnosed, gone untreated, or been misdiagnosed as gender dysphoria, and has then escalated and developed into an alter ego female personality.

First, my sexual behaviors were a coping mechanism for my very painful mental health issues that were rooted in the trauma of my childhood sexual abuse as well as violence I’d experienced and witnessed. Second, I was also now feeding what had become an escalating sexual addiction that was being fueled by pornography and yet another sexual paraphilia I’d developed: masochism. Experts in these fields of expertise state that sexual paraphilias are often comorbid and I agree.
Who bears the blame for your transition? You? Your doctors?
I’ve gotten feedback that insinuates that I got exactly what I asked for from my medical providers during my two gender transitions. But the truth is my doctors and mental health professionals bear significant blame, because the work of Blanchard and others on autogynephilia was published all the way back in the 1980s, yet most psychologists and psychiatrists either know nothing about it or intentionally chose ignorance. It’s framed as an unpopular diagnosis.
When I confronted my caregivers at the VA that had rubber-stamped me with gender dysphoria instead of a sexual paraphilia and asked to be reevaluated, their response was to fire me as a patient and then claim that they had no experience treating sexual paraphilias. However, the VA has already done studies explaining why people like me are acting out sexually but the folks treating me didn’t put two and two together. Instead, they fed and enabled the delusion that I was a woman, making them the most culpable.
Describe when and how you realized you needed to “de-transition.”
Becoming non-binary was like redoing the whole gender experiment all over again with different parameters and then getting the same outcome. I didn’t stop taking hormones and by then I had an even bigger mess to walk back because I was no longer a relatively obscure transgender woman. I now had international fame associated with the landmark court decision to cope with, making reclaiming my birth sex much more difficult.
But admitting and accepting the truth about myself gave me the strength to reclaim my male birth sex. And after I did, I began treatment for my correct diagnosis: a transvestic disorder with autogynephilia.
What does “de-transitioning” feel like? Is there a feeling of loss? Anger? Relief? Is it harder than transitioning?
There was no sense of loss and it’s certainly easier than transitioning because you’re not fighting against your biological reality, societal pushback, and forcing others to indulge your delusion.
I do have plenty of anger about having been medically experimented on by people with advanced degrees who should have known better, leaving me feeling duped about having fallen for the quack theory that I have a gender identity. I now realize that I don’t.
I was falsely led by mental health practitioners to believe that my feelings decided my sex, but that’s neither scientific, measurable, nor enduring because my feelings can and have changed. I’ve come to realize and accept that the only thing capable of reliably grounding me to reality is my male chromosomes and reproductive system.
All of this legal fiction and outright fraud has indeed left me very bitter and angry. I want the people who have caused me physical and mental harm held accountable for their actions and roles in the medical experimentation that was perpetrated against me.
Do you believe most people who have decided they are transgender would have been better off remaining their biological sex?
Yes, I believe everyone would be better off being recognized solely as their biological sex. The medical procedures being touted as “gender transitions,” if they work at all, are in fact nothing more than cosmetic changes to people’s bodies. I’m proof of that.
But here’s the biggest thing: even if you could somehow argue the medical treatments are legitimate hormonal and surgical procedures, lying to the patient about being another sex based on the pseudoscience of gender identity and forcing everyone else to play along is nothing short of medical malpractice and legal fiction.
How did you decide to go from a non-binary person who has de-transitioned to somewhat of a public critic? Is your personal story well received?
First and foremost I had to do so because people were continuing to use my court decision to put more and more non-binary sex markers on state driver’s licenses, and they were also continuing to write about my court case in academic and legal journals. And this was occurring against a backdrop of readily available information on the internet, my Wikipedia page, and on my personal website explaining that I had reclaimed my birth sex. Some of these folks were intentionally casting me in a false light to advance gender ideology.
What are your expectations for the case SCOTUS is about to hear, R.G. & G.R. Harris Funeral Homes Inc. v. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission as it relates to your personal journey? Should gender identity be protected under the law like sex?
I think the justices will rule in favor of R.G. & G.R. Harris Funeral Homes and protect religious freedom because the male plaintiff, who claims to be a female is, in my opinion, the exact same thing as I am: A cross-dressing man that is sexually aroused by the image of himself as a woman. I sincerely believe that he and I both suffer from a transvestic disorder and with what Dr. Blanchard refers to as autogynephilia.
While I believe that autogynephilia is a mental health problem worthy of treatment and compassion, based on my experience I think it’s unworthy of public or employment accommodation, even if it has progressed to gender dysphoria.
Like myself, because the man in the case who now identifies as a woman’s transvestic disorder has apparently gone untreated for probably decades, and because quack theories about gender have been allowed to proliferate and infiltrate society and law, his sexual identity problem has apparently gotten so out of control that he now believes he’s a female. That’s unfortunate, but he’s not a woman and neither was I. So I feel the Supreme Court needs to set the nation straight about that in order to protect females and religious freedom.
We need to quit wasting so much time and resources and return to a clear-cut definition of biological sex because a lot of children are now being harmed by gender ideology too. As to whether gender should be protected under the law? The answer is no, because it’s based on nothing more than personal feelings, perceptions, stereotypes, and pseudoscience.

So you think we are crazy? READ THIS

So I was doing some reading not too long ago and decided this data may be useful. To anyone coming here believing we are crazy, racist, stupid, or just plain full of ****, please, read on. Read this post fully before you decide to reply calling me a racist or a hater. If you can't do this simple task, you are a hopeless libtard.

First off, let's talk briefly about our stance. Many here feel we as European descendants should have a land to ourselves. The Chinese have a land to themselves. The Japanese have a land to themselves. Even Africans have a land to themselves. What about us? There is not a single country on this planet where "white people" can be at peace without other races bothering them. Why is this? That's an advanced topic we would love to share but we don't want to waste our time telling it to someone who will ignore everything said. If you genuinely want to know, feel free to ask and someone will explain it further.

"But that's silly! First off there is only one race, the human race!" Wrong. Yes we all belong to the same species (this is debated). However we are not all alike or equal. There are essentially three groups (usually referred to as "races") within the human species. The Caucasoid (White Europeans basically), the Mongoloid (Asians basically), and the Negroid (Africans basically). Each has their own traits that are quite different from the others. It is well known but almost never said that the Negroids tend to have the lowest IQs (well below that of either Caucasoids or Mongoloids) while the Caucasoids and Mongoloids tend to have the highest (an average of only a few points difference between Mongoloids and Caucasoids). The Caucasoids also tend to be more creative than either the Mongoloid or Negroid. There is very specific physical characteristics between the "races". We are NOT all alike. This is a complex topic that we also would love to tell you about, but would rather not waste time with someone who will ignore everything said. If you genuinely want to know, feel free to ask and someone will explain it further.

"Among white Americans, the average IQ, as of a decade or so ago, was 103. Among Asian-Americans, it was 106. Among Latino Americans, it was 89. Among African-Americans, it was 85. Around the world, studies find the same general pattern: whites 100, East Asians 106, sub-Sarahan Africans 70. One IQ table shows 113 in Hong Kong, 110 in Japan, and 100 in Britain. White populations in Australia, Canada, Europe, New Zealand, South Africa, and the United States score closer to one another than to the worldwide Negroid average. It's been that way for at least a century."

For the record, mine is 132 (I have taken several tests and the range is 130 to 145).

"Are Jews white?" Yes and no. They are a mixed breed (typically a mixture of Caucasoid and Negroid with some Mongoloid). Any Jew claiming to be white is (usually) a liar. The only white Jews are converts. Why bring this up? It will be covered later.

"Why are you always picking on black people?!" They are the worst of the human species and I can prove it. For one, all evidence suggests that the typical Negroid is pretty unintelligent. With an average IQ of around 80 to 85, their mental capacities are just not that good. If one takes time to observe the Negroid, they will find that the Negroid is rather aggressive and prone to violence. They also lack impulse control. These two traits lead to them being trouble for other races. Here's some stats:

The city of Irvine California is considered the safest large city in the USA as of 2014. With a violent crime rate of just 46 per 100,000, it is pretty dang safe. What is the racial makeup? White alone - 98,118 (42.7%), Asian alone - 92,820 (40.4%), Hispanic - 25,573 (11.1%), Negroid alone - 3,559 (1.5%). The city of Detroit Michigan is considered the most dangerous large city in the USA. With a violent crime rate of 2,072 per 100,000, it's a pretty dangerous city. What is the racial makeup? Negroid alone - 570,808 (81.4%), White alone - 57,252 (8.2%), Hispanic - 52,421 (7.5%), Asian alone - 7,569 (1.1%). Hmm. Interesting. Of course you can look at almost any big city in the USA and notice the SAME trend: The more Whites/Asians and less Negroids, the lower the violent crime rate. The more Negroids and less Whites/Asians, the higher the violent crime rate. It is clearly seen, can be clearly proven, and is repeatable. You can take any city of any size that is majority White, flood it with Negroids, and the violent crime rate will go up. Even if you take out the same number of whites as you put in Negroids. Negroids are not even safe from themselves. It is a fact that the majority of Negroids murdered are murdered by OTHER Negroids.

"Well, crime rate is proportionate to poverty! Race has nothing to do with it, just happens there are a lot of poverty stricken blacks in the USA because of discrimination!" Wrong. When one takes a close enough look at the data, there is more of a correlation between race and crime than poverty and crime. A poor white neighborhood is a lot safer than a poor Negroid neighborhood. As for discrimination, Negroids in the USA are given MORE opportunity than whites and yet they still fail horribly at life. Is it a coincidence or is it because they lack the mental capacity to do well with the opportunities they have? If you have ever worked as a manager, you will know exactly what I mean. You will know from experience that the typical Negroid lacks intelligence and motivation. They tend to be lazy, especially when out of the sight of the superiors. If they think they can get away with something, they will try to. No intelligent person can claim that Negroids are not given preferential treatment now days in the USA. Despite such, they have made no progress in life and generally mooch off others to some degree. Some of course take it all the way and live on government/charity handouts. Some actually try and find work but typically remain poor due to bad decisions due to lacking mental capacity. Have you ever had to give instructions to Negroids? If you have, you can tell how low their general mental capacity is. The purer the Negroid, the dumber and more violent they are.

"But white people commit violent crimes too!" Of course. All races have some representation in crime. I'm not arguing that. What I am arguing is how much. The statistics and data doesn't lie. When you factor in their percentage of the population, Negroids commit the most crimes, the most violent crimes, the most rapes, the most property damage, so on and so forth. They are generally the bottom of the barrel. If you need further proof, just look at the riots that's been going on. A white cop shoots a Negroid they thought was armed but turned out they were unarmed. So a lot of the local Negroids go out and destroy their city/town. Loot, pillage, burn. However they fail to realize that Negroid cops shoot unarmed white people just as often as white cops shoots unarmed Negroids. White cops kill more white people than Negroids. You don't see us rampaging like angry gorillas and destroying our towns. Why? We aren't that violent or stupid.

Now maybe you have a little bit of an idea WHY we want a place to ourselves.

"Why did you let all these non-whites into white majority countries if you didn't want them there?" Well, we didn't. This is where the Jewish issue comes in. Anyone who takes a decent time to research the history/connections/heritage/genetics of those in high places will come to the conclusion our country and much of the world is run by Jews. The most treasonous laws ever passed had Jewish backers and was funded by Jewish money. Any treasonous law has Jewish ties. Almost all corruption can be traced back to a Jew. The Jews own all the media, they own all the television stations, they own all the radio, they own all the newspapers, they own the government (through bribes, blackmail, campaign funding, etc), they control what the majority sees. Why does it matter? The Jews have a mostly unspoken bond. Whether they are "practicing" Jews or not, they are all bound by blood (genetics) and they know it. A Jew will "scratch the back" of another Jew any chance they get. Openly they claim otherwise but the data doesn't lie. Spend any decent time researching and you will find a Jew connected to everything that is bad with the world today.

"You are beginning to sound like a Nazi! Aren't you ashamed that the Germans killed 6 million Jews?!" There is no solid evidence showing Hitler had any intention of killing ANY Jews, much less 6 million or any other figure. In fact, the Nazis severely punished other Nazis if they hurt captive Jews. Bet you never heard that one. As well, there is no evidence there were any homicidal gas chambers. In fact, the logistics of "gassing and cremating" six million Jews during the time Hitler reigned is impossible. Even modern cremation ovens can barely do 19 bodies a day (24 hours). Plus you have the issue with fuel (cremation takes a lot of fuel) and the remains left after cremation. Where did all those ashes go? "Nobody knows". The evidence does not support the claims for the Holocaust. Any intelligent and reasonable human being would consider evidence over rumor every time. Concerning the so called eye witnesses, any prosecutor will tell you that eyewitness testimony is some of the worst evidence. The mind loves to embellish and exaggerate memories. The mind is also not a perfect storage device. It may remember some basic things about an event but it almost never can remember details. Were there cremation ovens at the "camps"? Of course. People die. What do you do with the bodies of those who die? You can either bury them or cremate them. Cremation has advantages. In any group setting (such as labor camps), if you don't take care of the dead quickly, it can lead to issues for everyone in the group. The evidence supports that the camps were labor camps and typically had a range of pleasure activities for camp members to participate in. There were things like swimming pools, pianos, musical instruments, games, movies, so on and so forth. Bet the Jewish run media never told you about how many times Hitler tried to prevent war. Hitler tried numerous times to prevent war. The Jews pushed for it and pushed for it until they had it. Hitler of course made them regret it. Hitler could have won the war but he made some mistakes. That is not the point of this post though so you can look elsewhere for the data related to Hitler.

"If white people are so smart, why did they let the Jews outsmart them?" The Jews didn't outsmart our people. What they did do however is manipulate one of our weaknesses: compassion and kindness. Look at most Christians for example. Always giving to the poor, feeling pity for those less fortunate. These traits are common among our people. We also tend to be too trusting. We made the mistake of letting Jews reside among us because they looked similar to us and on the outside appeared nice. Little did we know how mean, sneaky, and manipulative they generally are. Are all Jews bad? Of course not, but most are. That is the main reason Jews even to this day screw us over. They use our weaknesses to manipulate us and they have nearly perfected how to brainwash us. This is why you should throw out your television (I did over a decade ago and it was one of the best decisions I've ever made).

"You seem to try to use logic, but what about all the Christians on your board?!" To each his own. We are not a unified body of "haters". Each of us has our own beliefs. I personally am not religious. Do I hate Christians? No. Could I ever be a Christian? Unlikely. I personally require proof and evidence and I just haven't found that in religion of any sort. Do I know what exists after death? Nope. Am I worried? Not really. Each of us is different but we are unified on some topics (such as wanting a territory of our own where we can live in peace among our own kind).

"What about homosexuals?" What about them? The evidence supports that homosexuals have a mental disorder. For a long time homosexuality was considered a mental disorder. However with time society lost their minds and began embracing people with serious and dangerous mental disorders. I will not delve into this too deeply here but being a homosexual puts you at a MUCH higher risk than the general public for dying at an early age. You as a homosexual have a MUCH higher risk of contracting an STD/STI. Statistics show as well that homosexuals are far more likely than heterosexuals to molest children. There are logical reasons to oppose the homosexual agenda. Are all homosexuals bad? Of course not. However I wouldn't want one living next door to me. The religious among us tend to point to their holy book when asked about homosexuals. I point to facts and statistics. Either way, homosexuality is a choice, is a mental disorder, and can be cured.

"Ok, so you don't like Jews, Negroids, or homosexuals, do you like anything?" Of course. We love our people and our heritage. Society (with the brainwashing from the Jew) is pressuring us to forget our heritage or even be ashamed of it. What is there to be ashamed of? If it weren't for our people, you all would still be living in huts/caves/tents. You wouldn't be typing on a computer because they wouldn't exist. You would be sweating like mad because there would be no air conditioning. You would be bored out of your mind as there would be no internet or even electricity. You would very likely live in a dangerous time with nothing better to do than try to survive. If it weren't for our ancestors, you would be living like the primitive tribes in Africa right now. Consider that next time you think about feeling ashamed about being white or the next time you try to make one of us feel ashamed. Our people brought civilization to the world. Wherever we are in high numbers, there is low crime, high civilization, and progress in the area of technology. Where we are low in numbers, there is rampant crime, no progress, and primitive tribal like gangs roaming around. I will never be ashamed of being white and I will never apologize.