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jack_tom & unnamed participant #crackpot #sexist #wingnut debate.org

[Debate topic: “Are women the property of their husbands?”]

Wives are property. After marriage , a wife should enter her husband's house wearing her wedding gown and carrying nothing else. Then ... she will spend the rest of her life there. Once in her husband should strip her and throw the gown away. From then on she will spend the rest of her life nude in her husband's house serving him. She will clean , cook , do the laundry and chores. She should also be kept pregnant as much as possible.

Yes women are the property of their husbands: Marriage is not some weird equal partnership. Men and women are not the same. For ages people accepted that children were the property of their fathers and then after marriage, women were the property of their husbands. This universal truth can be found in most religions ... Feminism came in and screwed people's minds, corrupting wonderful real marriage into a disgusting perverted equal partnership. ...

The woman was made for the man and not vice versa. The man is under obligation to protect and provide for his wife, not vice versa. The woman is his help-meet and under his loving authority. She excels at being a wonderful wife and mother and raising up the next generation wisely. Also, both of them must mutually satisfy their sexual needs. This is true patriarchy, the bedrock of civilisation. It's a pity that the modern world has moved so far from truth and sense.

Being property doesn't mean being a slave. ...
Men cannot abuse their wives or "do as they please(in a negative sense)". They have duties and responsibilities ...

Real Fathers and real husbands have been shot down by the deception called "gender equality" and in their place buffoons, nincompoops, white knights, manginas and emasculated men have arisen. Also, women have transformed themselves into something that didn't exist before.

Various contributors #crackpot #pedo #psycho #sexist debate.org

[Debate topic: “Should rape be illegal?”]

Rape of a woman should be legalized God made us for the pleasure of man. Our bodies exist for the service of men. Consent is completely irrelevant issue. Every woman should be glad when she’s raped. I encourage every man reading this to rape as many women as possible. Start with your daughter because she’ll be easiest to control then go further.
I have been raped by many men and it’s been my pleasure to receive their seed. That’s why we exist. I disagree with the 18+ rule. I think every woman of any age should be raped especially if you’re under 18 because it’ll be easier to dominate her and silence the screams. I would gladly help any man who wants to rape a women. Man up folks!

Rape will be uncontrollable soon, like downloading illegal files. In the pessimistic future, when women became 10 times more sexually attractive than strip dancers today, because of their uncontrollable style, uncontrollable rape will exist. Fashion of women will be like strip dancers outfits and rape will be a habit of men.
This future is war between genders instead of gender equality.

I'm a dad, But. . . I tell my daughter about how men have sexual urges that they have to satisfy and that it's very possible she will one day be raped. She understands that it might happen and that makes it less scary for her (and she won't be so scared when I rape her :)). Making rape legal would remove the stigma around it so getting raped would be less of a big deal for feminazis to whine about. Rape will happen no matter what, Legalize it!

Fun for the whole family If you act like a whore and you get raped, It's because you deserved it. No matter how old you are or who you are. Rape is a part of life and it shouldn't be such a big deal - girls are overreacting when they get raped. It should be completely legal and all women should be raped.

Various participants #pedo #crackpot debate.org

[Debate topic: “Should pedophilia be legal?”]

Pedophilia Should be legal Pedophilia was legal in ancient times in Greece and Rome many other countries as well there is no problem ... age is just a number ...

Tender sweet meat It's tender, Tasty yummy sweet meat. Anybody denying attraction to tenders is living a lie. Keep it real is not possible for STUPID people.
BTW, Forceful attempts at children is wrong, This is common sense. Children enjoy a slippery tongue. Children are abused by a culture that denies them love.

It's sexy I think Nothing wrong with making a girl feel things she thinks feels good get them used to it don't be afraid to put thier clothes on them rub thier bodies. Nothing wrong with loving on a sweet little angel. Don't do it hard and get them used to it. Yes it's okay.

My Thoughts on Pedophilia and Racism are Similar I think the attraction to children and racism are okay by themselves, As long as you NEVER act upon them. ...

It's just common sense It wasn't until children were forced to work in brothels that the question of consent came into picture. ... Before then it was common for children as young as 6 years old to be married to adults.
We are used to the idea of consent (modern interpretation) there for we were taught that that's how it is or should be. Age should not interrupt the joining of two people.
… Children are people and have rights under the constitution. Therefore they can decide who they want to share them selves with and ... children are very sexual even at the age of 5 and they know what they are doing. Its obvious when your around it and observe it ...
Not only should pedophilia be legal but it should be illegal to interfere with it. It's more natural than people want to admit to.

Yes due to the fact prohibition will drive attraction Anything prohibited gets extra marketing just off it's bad rep of course until somebody likes it and it becomes the new fad ...

Sven-Olof_Lindholm & various contributors #crackpot #homophobia #transphobia #psycho debate.org

[Debate topic: “We should Institute a death penalty for homophiles and transexualists.”]

I hate gays The homosexual and it’s consequences have been disastrous for humanity. The LBGT community are a bunch of degenerate hedonistic pathetic excuses for humans. What does being Gay have to offer to a person’s lifestyle? Nothing. They inisist to go against nature and giving in to their mental illness. They can’t even have children. They are f***ing useless.

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Both are hostile ideologies. Both transexualism and homophilia are dangerous concept invented by the cultural neo-marxists.
Both are demonstrably mental illnesses that serve to weaken and degenerate our nations and peoples.
Homophila spreads sexually transmitted diseases and lessens population growth.
It's going to the point now where they are demanding increasingly higher privileges for themselves at the cost of the majority population.
We cannot allow this cultural marxist madness any longer!

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We should do it only if they are open about it and refuse to stop I think that a death penalty would be prudent in the case that homophiles and transexuals who are openly promiscuous are a degeneration of the sanctity of the public and society as a whole. No we shouldn't go on a witch hunt of mentally ill folks who can't control their lust or emotions but we should oppose normalizing it by any means necessary

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Not exactly true, But close The culture of both is completely degenerate and has no benefit to society. They should not be killed for being that way, Just if they won’t shut up about it. It’s fine if they do it in secret, But they just get so pushy about it and how everyone has to agree with them. That’s when they cross the line.

Various contributors #crackpot #sexist debate.org

[Debate topic: “Should rape be illegal?”]

Woman are in fact objects It's written in their DNA, women are designed to be fucked by men. They have vaginas with sensitivity, and it gets moist even when being raped because they subconsciously want to be filled with sperm since that is the animal nature within us, just like how men subconsciously want to put their dick inside.

Women are useless without giving their bodies to men, so they should just submit and spread their legs, let their body speak and stop acting like they deserve shit they didn't even do anything for.

No! It should be legal.. Think deeper ALL humans come with urges along with the need and right to satisfy them so in rape, everybody is the victim. The woman being raped, the rapist and their families are all victims in a way.. For a woman being raped would be very scary, for the rapist it sucks having to go to prison just for taking what's yours.. But in the end it's not rape that should be ilegal it's saying NO to men in need. Even if it's ladies raping men

Make it legal As a woman i know rape is okay... If any men rape me ill let them we are servents to me and we just know it. By now its the only reason we were made was to be maids to men... Rape isnt so bad anyway :) i need 3 more words

Yes, but only when a person commits the act to another person or non-person animal... If rape was made illegal for plants, then considering they are incapable of any form of consent, there would be no plant life on earth. All agriculture business would fail and the economy would collapse. Since the only way for a plant to have sex is non-consensual pollination (another way to say plant sex) this is true.

Various participants #crackpot #fundie #sexist #wingnut debate.org

[Debate topic: “Should women have rights?”]

Sandwich makers are needed Who is going to make me a sandwich when I get home from work if women can have rights and actually do things. God forbid someone let them make their own decisions, let alone vote. Have you seen them fly off the hook when they find out that you're sleeping with another woman? It is my right to take as many wives as I so please, since the bible said so. Also, if they have rights, they can drive. If we fix this serious issue, we should be able to significantly reduce costs to society by reducing accidents. DO YOU KNOW WHERE YOUR WOMAN IS? If she's not in the kitchen or in the bedroom, something is wrong.

Women should never have gotten rights to begin with! Things slowly went down hill once we were granted rights. ... I shouldn't have to go to school because the greatest joy a woman can have is serving her family. ... abortion came from woman's rights. Women said oh look I have all this power I should have the right over my own body too and should be allowed to kill my own child . It's sick. Bring back the good days were the wife is waiting for the husband at home!!!!

They would bleed all over society. Men have proven to be more superior, who has ever heard of a successful woman putting in long hours at any job they do? None. ...

They cheat in society Most of the women's I met used sex to advance in society.
... they always use sex to skip hard work,all of them just want husbands with money,because they are lazy and materialistic,all the women's I met were materialistic,I'm not religious,but the bible was right about them,they steal the succes of hard working men.

Women are too emotional and can't be relied upon to take the cold, harsh view that is needed. ... They allow emotions to rule over place of good solid reasoning. ... if women became presidents (God forbid) we would have a million wars because of pointless trivial reasons. WOMEN CAN'T USE LOGIC. ...

Unnamed participants #crackpot #sexist #fundie #wingnut debate.org

[Debate topic: “Are women the property of their husbands?”]

Pleased to Obey Him My first obligation is to serve and worship the Lord God; my second obligation is to love and serve my husband. ... And I only look toward him, Public and private. My body belongs to him and he may do as he likes with it (hopefully with respect and love, But it's his right if he doesn't feel respect for me at the time; I must have failed in some area). ... It is my pleasure to serve him. In return, He protects me and he is kind to me ...

Yes, Men, Ladies like me do exist. We aren't extinct. ...

I am certain I will take some heated replies from other ladies ... But ... Who is happy in their marriage and has kept that marriage intact? - I have. :)

OF course women are property, If not they're whores Women need to be the property of men or they will become whores feel guilty and say men raped them. The whole metoo movement is a bunch of shameful guilt riddled whores that know they are the property of their fathers but gave themselves away and now need an excuse as to why they're useless whores. Case in point a good women that stays home listens to her father or husband is much happier women and 100% of good women have never been raped. Or ... Claim someone raped them on their whore escapades. Look, Women don't have the mental capacity to orient themselves to the world, That's why they are liberals, Because they are stupid. ... Once realizing they are whores and disgusted with themselves always find a simp to live with and marry. Knowing they have spent all their value on many many men they find the most beta male to scream at for the rest of his life, Usually cheating on him a number of times. That it is best to not be whores and continue to be good daughters to their father and reserve them selves for the day the father gives them away to the man of HIS choice. Obviously, The father being a man will better select the male, Than her simple feeble mind can.

distantmajin & various contributors #ableism #crackpot #psycho debate.org

[Topic: “Should we Euthanize those that will not or cannot take care of themselves?”]

There is no hope for mentally ill homeless people. It is inhumane to allow the homeless Community to live the way they do when they are all very clearly mentally ill. Most of them are mentally ill and addicted to drugs. There's no hope for schizophrenia. There is no hope for certain mental illnesses that cause violence and paranoia. These homeless people are not just merely living on the streets. They're ruining the streets! They are breaking into people's homes, Cars, Businesses, They are stealing! They harass people, Sometimes physically assault people. They are leaving their dirty needles all over the place. They are defecating in public. I don't understand how these people are not considered zombies that should be euthanized. We euthanize puppies and kittens that do absolutely nothing bad and yet we keep these people alive? For what? Their lives aren't great. I guarantee you most of them would want to die anyway. Get rid of them all. Kill them all! Goodbye goodbye goodbye homeless people!

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Yes. . Yes. . . Yes. . . . People who aren’t contributing to society by working and paying taxes to keep our communities safe and operational, Absolutely have no place in a world that is dealing with over population and lack of resources. The United States and Canada would do themselves a great service by halting population growth and immigration to protect our natural beauty and resources. Homeless are a health hazard and a bring down property values. If you’re not contributing to society or at least trying to contribute it’s not my job or the governments job to take care of you. Homeless vets are excluded, Our shit government caused most of their problems so. . . . .

Various participants #crackpot #sexist #wingnut debate.org

[Debate topic: “Should women have the right to vote?”]

Women are natually communists As the weaker and more vulnerable sex, Women always tend towards communist and socialist programs that to know ones surprise, Always benefit women at the expense of men. All men are created equal. Notice women were not mentioned for a reason. Women never treat men equally and expect men to pay for the pleasure of their company.

As a woman myself, I don’t think that women should vote. ... I am fully aware that tough decisions will always result in someone gaining and others losing. Unfortunately ... women(most women) don’t understand that decisions can never made to the benefit of all. The world is neither happy nor is it fair and it’s not our responsibility to shed tears and sympathize for people that would never do the same for us in the reverse situation. Women are too emotional and it’s dangerous to run a country with feelings. Even though this would remove my voting rights along with the other women ... I would still be willing to forfeit that right if it meant saving our country from all the stupid women.

Women never fought for their rights How many women died in the revolutionary war, The spanish-american war ... The civil war, WW1 and WW2 ... Or any other war in the history of america? ... Millions of men died for the rights enjoyed in america and the freedoms we have. No women have. Women have not earned any rights whatsoever and there very existence is at the mercy of men as we could kill all women at any moment.

The decline of western civilization . . . Can be directly correlated with women making political decisions. Historically men and women always had a balanced power dynamic and men's decisions have always been influenced by women as much as men have made their own conclusions. Now society's decision making is skewed too far to one side. To say women's right to vote is about fairness is disingenuous, It's really about power.

Installgentoo #crackpot #pratt debate.org

10 reasons why atheists are dumb

1. they constantly say gods aren't real like they're angry about it. If you're angry about something not existing you should seek it out, not reject it.

This describes the behaviour of most internet atheist celebrities.

2. you follow evolutionary hypotheses like the faithful, even though the scientifically knowledgable you aspire to be wouldn't do that.

3. if atheism is the absence of belief then you are all stupid by default

4. they think evolution from animals to man happened dispite there being no good evidence for that "fact", then blast theists for not having any evidence for the existence of ONE deity. Fail!

5. they refer to themselves as free-thinkers but won't think freely about God(s)

6. they have never studied Christianity past what they learned in Sunday school

7. they sympathize with other religions as if they were good, but hate Christianity

8/ they hate close-mindedness, yet follow atheist celebrities advice like it's gods will, in everything they do

9. they think since some holy books are bullsh*t therefore all holy books are bullsh*t- that's crazy logic

10. they hate their parents and that's the main reason they stopped believing in religion

Various participants #pedo #crackpot #homophobia #transphobia debate.org

[Debate topic: “Should pedophilia be legal?”]

If people can be attracted to plastic cups they can be attracted to small humans People are attracted to all kinds of things. BDSM, Vore, Scat, Gore, Piss, Inflation, And all this is legal.

To me the attraction to children is far more normal than most fetishes since it's just very vanilla in comparison. They are humans just smaller, They have bodies just like we do. It's fine.

It should be legal as its was normal throughout centuries after centuries and suddenly it's a taboo Kids starts feeling a sexual attraction towards people and love sees no age it's a normal human thing. Sex is also good for the immune system. ... Oh kids can't consent absolute rubbish if they can choose between KFC and burger king they are well and capable to choose if or not to have sex. Forcing should be illigal regardless of age

Yes it should be legal because criminalizing pedophilia is like criminalizing homosexuality. It took a while for society to accept it, And we still don't. Age is just a number. You can't measure maturity because it solely depends on the child. ...

It should be ...
Children can get into trouble for lying, Stealing, Wagging school, Shop lifting etc. . . . They Knew what they were doing.
But when it comes to sexual stuff. . . OH they suddenly don’t know what they are doing and can’t consent. What a load of rubbish.

What about other sexualities? What about having sex with animals? Will that be legalized? You've already normalized homosexuality, Where the reality is that many get AIDS, And people who chop off their own genitals because they feel out of place in their gender. Why stop now? KEEP GOING YOU STUPID TURDS, KEEP IT UP. WOULD YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE WITH LEGALIZING PEDOPHELIA FIRST OR BEASTIALITY FIRST? KEEP GOING! FUCK YOU

Sven-Olof_Lindholm & various contributors #crackpot #fundie #homophobia #transphobia #racist #psycho debate.org

[Debate topic: “We should Institute a death penalty for homophiles and transexualists.”]

It is unbiblical Throughout the Bible, Homosexual behavior is expressly forbidden. Anyone found to have committed a homosexual act was to be put to death. Simple as that. The Bible also forbids dressing as the opposite gender. No ifs buts or loopholes. Homosexuality and transsexualism were NEVER part of God’s original plan and never will be. It is simply a product of sin and imperfection. Soon enough, God will end homosexuals and transsexuals who do not repent. In the mean time, Why not get rid of some ourselves. Not because they ARE gay or trans, But because they choose to act on it and not be normal.

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Bro like come on, They are transformers, Remember Chicago? I hate trans people, They probably smell from all the hormones they secrete and they all look weird, You ever walked and send a tranny and felt safe, Hell nah. We need a street cleaning service that just takes care of that crowd alone. Imagine the medicare they use from taxpayer money to pay for those surgeries. I hate jews.

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God supports straight God only supports straight people only we should just kill all the gays in this world because straight people have turned this world into the greatest world ever I have seen nothing but harm from gay people all around the world I think that it is about time to turn this world back into a straight only world

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They need to be dead I would rather live in a straight world rather than a stupid dumb gay world we live in right now we should just give a death penalty to all the gays in this world so that way we can protect this world and of course stop gays ...

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Gays are too dangerous Gays are evil dangerous and of course they caused great damage to the world like right now the gays have ruined this world and they should have to be punished for that we should punish all the gays with harsher punishments in order for this world to become straight only

distantmajin & various contributors #ableism #crackpot #psycho debate.org

[Topic: “Should we Euthanize those that will not or cannot take care of themselves?”]

It would be a disservice to the individual that is suffering and is an unnecessary burden on the health system.

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Discourage the voluntary homeless and rid society of the ones who will never contribute Governments create more and more homeless by handing out free drugs, Putting them up in hotels with meals and allowing them to do what ever they want in our parks. Anyone not willing to take a home placement should be euthanized as should all that refuse to stop taking free drugs. The park dwellers should have a choice between euthanization, Institutionalization for the mentally unwell or working for their shelter while learning a trade of some sort.

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If you can euthanize a dangerous animal you can euthanize a dangerous human. I am tired of living in fear of walking downtown or going to the parks I used to love because the homeless are camped out there. I was a social worker, I’ve seen it. You will never end homelessness. Build all the low cost housing you want, You can’t house a drug addict or someone with mental illness who chooses to be on the streets. They are dangerous, Constantly commit crimes and interfere with hard working tax payers rights to live safely. We euthanize animals that put the public at risk, Why are we keeping dangerous criminals alive. Obviously this is a slippery slope but the rule of thumb should be if you took someones human right of being safe by robbing them or physically harming them then you’re deemed dangerous to public and should be euthanized. It’s time to make people reap the consequences of their actions and reward those who make good life choices.

Anonymous #fundie debate.org

If the Bible were nothing more than a pile of trash, as your despising ignorance would say, then why with a world with a million writers are good books not as common as the idiots insulting the greatest book ever assembled? In this is the miracle. We feel no hallowed presences to anything other than the Bible.

Try it! Attempt to tell a story to mimic the liquid eloquence of such moral simplicity, and you will inevitably fail. Yet more advantages have you, such as advancements to writing technology, as computers with a spellchecker, and many other advantages, yet you and I and everyone writes as children compared to the best selling book of all time.

You are a fool to insult something written to superior fashion over the intellectual impediments hindering your understandings. I could say more but you're too far gone at this juncture to your life. The honest truth is, is that you've been subconsciously and consciously manipulated through a variety of outlets. Get some help. Start" thinking for yourself. Good luck.

TheStrongLeader #fundie debate.org

In a world like this where humanity is continuously facing new obstacles and dangers we need to do everything we can to survive. Eugenics will help us with that! Eugenics will make us stronger and better and more prepared to fight! We do not know what the human body develop to, in 50 years we could be as strong as bears and as fast as antelopes!

If people would just open there eyes to what eugenics can help us become! And yes, overpopulating is a problem, but eugenics can help us solve that, my friends! As more developed human arise we can cut out the less useful ones! If I must be one of them, then when that day arises, I will, as a rightful soul, sacrifice myself for humanity.

subman #fundie debate.org

Eugenics is natural and approved worldwide. Eugenics is natural. We see it in selecting crops for food, and in animal husbandry where certain breeds are selected for specific jobs or abilities.

The idea that eugenics will destroy variety is incorrect. Dogs came from wolves. Wolves still exist, as do hundreds of different dog breeds. The same can be said for cats and plants.

Even now, we select the best possible mate we can. This is natural. Eugenics simply enhances those traits we find desirable. These traits can be altered over successive generations if needed. The only people who are afraid of eugenics, are those who are concerned their genes will not be passed on into posterity.

A great magician never reveals his secrets #conspiracy debate.org

I've done extensive research into this subject because I appreciate facts. I was not alive during the moon race and I never just accept someone's word for something although when I was young I did because everyone else said we went to the moon. I know what our government is capable of and we all know there are secrets that remain for years even while hundreds sometimes thousands of people work on these projects. I spent weeks investigating film footage, photography, and many other aspects of the moon race.

It takes time, but the information is available. I don't rely on just 1, 2, or even 3 things for my opinion. All I know for a fact is that what people saw on TV, the photos,and have been taught by a government-run school system is a slight of hand magic trick.I believe that the Apollo program was a cheaply done fabrication so as to divert huge amounts of money to another top secret or several top secret programs. I am not a conspiracy person. I simply believe facts that I am able to judge for myself. Research, research, research is the key to knowing any fact. Have we gone to the moon? Yes, we have scientific equipment on the moon. Was it placed there by actual people?

I find no evidence that any person has ever stepped on the surface of the moon? Have we tried to send someone to the moon? I don't know but I do not believe we have. Since all experiments are always carried out by animals before people I find it amazing that after some successful and some unsuccessful attempts to send animals into low space (although the furthest animals in space, 2 monkeys, was not very far at all only reaching 360 miles I believe, someone correct me if I'm wrong) we decided to just start shooting multiple men at a time to the moon with great success. I know it's hard for people to believe that something they have believed there whole life could be untrue, especially when everyone they love, respect, and admire has been telling them it is true.

I ask you to simply put yourself in the position of someone a long time ago when the smartest people in the world, including governments, where teaching that the earth was flat and you would fall off if you went to far. How the idea that the earth was round was blasphemy. Just keep an open mind. Man is deceptive. Magic is slight of hand. We all know that you can't saw anyone in half, yet we sit in an audience and with our own eyes see it happen. If only the magician would tell us how he did it. He never will. He loses his power over us if he does. The magician is the government and we will never know how they performed the trick. Please forgive any spelling mistakes. I love you all.

rainraoof #fundie debate.org

Why women should NOT vote! Women shouldn't be allowed to vote because it would ruin a perfectly working system. Also they belong at home taking care of kids as well as cooking and cleaning while the men are out working, fighting in the war, and bringing money to support the family. Women shouldn't have been given the vote from the start because they could consult with their husband on who to vote for and the husband could go vote on behalf of the family.

ararmer1919 #fundie debate.org

(This person is referring to the Native Americans)
This nation is theirs??????? Bull fing crap. We won it fair and square. They fought back, they lost. That's called progress. Ever heard of survival of the fittest? Obviously the natives were just an all around more inferior race compared to the Europeans. Imagine life today if things hadn't gone the way they had.

MadCornishBiker #fundie debate.org

My teacher is the Christ, so yes, of course I take his word for it. He is my only leader and king.

Ashera has no importance in scripture, any more than any other false gods.

All my teachings come from Jehovah, through his son, scripture and holy spirit.

I am avoiding nothing, you are dragging in complete irrelevances.

John 6:45
ASV(i) 45 It is written in the prophets (Isaiah 54:13) , And they shall all be taught of God. Every one that hath heard from the Father, and hath learned, cometh unto me.

I have listened to Jehovah, and have been drawn to Christ as a servant for him.

John 6:44
ASV(i) 44 No man can come to me, except the Father that sent me draw him: and I will raise him up in the last day.

True, I have accepted help and guidance from the JWs, and others at times, but the bible is the deciding factor. Anything taught me by anyone, which does not agree with scripture is rejected out of hand., Hence I truly am "taught by Jehovah".

You try to be so clever, and all you do is make yourself look ever more dumb.

There is no such thing as a self appointed expert on scripture. You are either appointed by Jehovah, or you never truly get to be an expert.

"Self" is a word which does not belong in the hearts and minds of followers of Christ, nor in their dictionaries. Self is what we have to abandon.

Serato #fundie debate.org

I get what you're saying. You wish to call evolution a scientific fact that takes more than faith to believe millions of years, from fossil to fossil, adding the ones and two's and three's, while many of these fossils are doctored and fake, and take enormous imagination to construct their appearance from fragments of lies. But let's go ahead and make up a story that says fossil x had sex with another fossil x, and out popped a baby fossil B. And while we're living in the land of imagination, let's call this scientific fact and just ignore its true definition, consisting of observable evidence that can be tested. And when we test legitimate fossils, let's pretend the carbon dating proves they're no older than 100,000 years. C'mon now, I can go on and on with this and that. Evolution is a lie, and the Bible explains why there are those seeking to brainwash you.

Serato #fundie debate.org

Your cattled determinations may think as ends to predicates of originality, but freed from the infinitude of barbed invisible fencing (?) no, you're slopping from the community troughs placed before your snout. Your ideas are not free ranging. You're mooing from the artificial insurance of the cozy insides of barn doors; confiding hereby to be slaughtered, you're simply another cow grazing amongst the pacified herds of society. So you cannot hear what I can say. Yet truly I say, it is you in whom free will is reined inspiringly, unknowingly, as higher a society you cannot see, yet they see your ego and knows always its castle it craves endlessly for new marbles.

This society everywhere sits wily to conspiracy. While evolution to all particulars its greatest lie so high no skies its limit, this is where I'd begin to reground your education. I'd absolve you to yourself some truths, as these truths told but unheard to the conformist. Be not afraid, yet wholly profane the world lashes with a bitter face, to the nonconformist. So become again as an infant, as an infant conforms to nobody. As is the Bible, the mind of an infant is also pure in heart.

The Bible is ripe with a moral vigor that domesticates always the mind no matter the past, the present or future, never will antiquity be there found. It is as true today as yesterday. Only with day-by-days setting, with each new rise enlightening closer the future, its meaning and accuracies then becomes better defined. Such an arduous climb for the mind awaits you, yet prefigures silently the soul inside you; for you lost faith, as Jesus said you would.

Whoso expounds now the Truth, asks for Truth, shall begin now to revere above all travesties to truths told alike as lies, shall then speak within the dwelling intuitions to the soul. As now one key opens a door, as two keys given opens more, as one more becomes ultimately three. Therein this the trinity to me becomes this to you the goal, becomes this to you and I as the predominations to life; and to all those that still strife, I promise, never is there an expiration to our faith.

Serato #fundie debate.org

If the Bible were nothing more than a pile of trash, as your despising ignorance would say, then why with a world with a million writers are good books not as common as the idiots insulting the greatest book ever assembled? In this is the miracle. We feel no hallowed presences to anything other than the Bible.

Try it! Attempt to tell a story to mimic the liquid eloquence of such moral simplicity, and you will inevitably fail. Yet more advantages have you, such as advancements to writing technology, as computers with a spellchecker, and many other advantages, yet you and I and everyone writes as children compared to the best selling book of all time.

You are a fool to insult something written to superior fashion over the intellectual impediments hindering your understandings. I could say more but you're too far gone at this juncture to your life. The honest truth is, is that you've been subconsciously and consciously manipulated through a variety of outlets. Get some help. Start" thinking for yourself. Good luck.

lolitalover #sexist debate.org

Lower the Age of Consent to 11 !

- 11 is usually the age humans start being able to reproduce
- To help avoid criminalizing sex between two high school pupils

It is obvious that the age of consent is much too high in most of the world, The reasoning behind placing the age of consent at 16 is deeply flawed. After all who is likely to give a young person a good time? Someone well experienced or some fumbling kid? I think i know what I would prefer if i were a kid again.
If Spain can place the age of consent at 13, then why cant the rest of the world do the right thing and place it at 11

unknown #sexist debate.org

13 is the perfect age

At 13 girls are young with tight bodies and oozing with sex appeal. Look at any 13 year old girl these days and their hygiene is impeccable. They are mature ans fully capable of making these types of decisions on their own and they should be allowed to without consequence.

unknown #sexist debate.org

should the age of consent be lowered to 13

Because once you're of age to reproduce, you're fair game.

Once you're of age to reproduce, you should fair game in the dating world. "Kids" younger than that used to take on much more adult rolls years ago, but we're so involved in coddling and sheltering kids these days that they're happy with spewing the "I'm just a kid" excuse well into their 20s. If you're worried about lowering the age limit because they cannot make such "adult decisions" then why is the age of consent 16 or younger in most places? 3 years doesn't make much of a difference to me. They look pretty much the same and damn sure aren't smarter in a lot of cases. We should be striving to prepare kids for these types of decisions earlier on so that they can choose for themselves if they want to engage in such activities.

unknown #sexist debate.org

[ on lowering the age of consent to 13 ]

Yes as long as both families agree. Humans know right from wrong when they are around 7.

They should also have to get a job and work at 13. Americans are just gonna get fatter and lazier and soon this country will start treating people in their mid 20s like children. We need to get back to the way things used to be. Americans are immature because they have terrible parenting. I started working in my dad's shop when I was 8 years old, graduated high school at 16, had save my first 10k (that I earned myself) before my 18th birthday, graduated college at 19, and paid off my home at 29. I also became sexually active at 13, I knew the consequences of my actions because I was made to take more and more care of myself at an early age. Parents now days want to hold their kids hands until they are 30. It's time for Americans to grow up. I'm not saying it's right to prey on the young, but what parents are doing isn't good either, stop sheltering and start letting them be responsible for their own actions.

unknown #sexist debate.org

The age of consent was the fault of homophobic feminists

The age of consent was raised from 13 to 16 in 1885 in the very same bill that criminalised homosexuality. It was the result of campaigning by puritanical anti-sex feminists who essentially believe that 'All sex is rape'.

13 year olds are mentally perfectly capable of understanding the consequences of their actions to the required level as they have already lived longer than the life expectancy of many animals (e.G. Dogs, cats) most of whom would reproduce at a much younger age.

Not being allowed to have a sexual relationship at a young age can result in an increased risk of lifelong celibacy and failing to have any offspring at all (women have a biological clock, you know). This can of course result in depression and suicide.

Edlvsjd #fundie debate.org

Dinosaurs were an elaborate hoax, put on by early evolutionists. Dinosaur bones are actually bones from many different animals, with the missing bones made from plaster and the like. When you go to a museum, you're not even looking at what was originally found! All dino bones were "found" by people specifically looking for said bones, with many generally lumped into one area. This suggests planting these bones "Finding" a dino bone is a very lucrative business with a t-rex bone selling for $12 million dollars. People dig all the time. Miners, farmers, basement builders, etc. People explore all the time. Native Americans didn't find anything. No one knew dinosaurs existed until the late 1800's when someone theorized them, then after some fossilized teeth were found, an entire dinosaur was confirmed! Pro must state his case for why he believes that dinosaurs existed in round one. No semantics please. Arguments and rebuttals continue to R3, after which no new evidence may be presented. R5 is for final arguments, rebuttals and conlusions. Any sources may be used until they are found to be false info.
In 1990, "Sue" was found on a casual stroll. By a fossil hunter for a failing museum. Where did the rest of the fossils of all the dinos go? There were thousands of these monstrous beasts, but were not tripping over their remains? Evolution is a lie, atheists are so gullible!

unknow #sexist debate.org

Women shouldn't be allowed to vote or hold positions of power for one simple reason. Most women make decisions based on EMOTIONS instead of FACT.

As we are now seeing, a government heavily influenced by women will be overrun with bleeding heart social programs (expanding welfare state) even in the wake of much bigger problems (faltering economy).

The FACT is that we don't have the money for these social programs. However, since women have been allowed in to the political world, the EMOTIONAL response allowing these social programs has been HUGE!

Julie83 #sexist debate.org

I am a woman (aged 30), and I have to agree that we (women) are too emotional and not rational or logical enough to have the right to vote. Most women are intelligent but we allow our emotions to take over and we don't often think straight. I have never voted because we should not have the right to vote. Men are often naturally more level headed, rational and logical and understand politics better that women do.

no username #fundie debate.org

Eyewitness's are trustworthy Eyewitnesses can be trusted in courts across the land. They do not have a reason to lie and they want to see the right person punished for the crime. No one wants to see the wrong person punished for a crime that someone else committed. They will always be good to use.

unknow #fundie debate.org

Think of poor families and arranged marriages There are obvious benefits to child marriages. For example child marriages create financial stability which in turn means that the family will have their needs met, not to mention that the child who is getting married will have all her needs provided for. Morality itself needs to be questioned...We can all agree that killing someone is wrong and immoral, but in times of war killing is not only morally acceptable but is also encouraged. SO MORALITY ALL DEPENDS ON SITUATIONS, by the child marrying she is basically saving her family.
I hoped this added some insight on the topic. There are no right or wrong answers...Sadly. All I can say is arranged marriages are needed in some cases and can save many lives.

Anonymous #racist debate.org

Hitler did nothing wrong

The jews set up camps in various places across Europe and the Reich thought nothing of it. They then secretly went on mass hunger strikes. They all started working themselves to death, so Hitler sent in troops to try and get them to eat, but they wouldn't listen. Their bodies started to pile up, so he had to get rid of them somehow because it was unsanitary. This explains the ovens. It was the Jews' fault.

amajum0073 #racist debate.org

[In response to the question submitted by the same poster, Should non-white be expelled from the US?]

The US is a white country only. The US is a homeland for white people and not for non-whites. Immigration from non-white countries must be prohibited. White people have made this country and non-whites do not belong in this country. If you are against this, then you are anti-white promoting the reduction of our race. Anti-racist is a codeword for anti-white.

Anonymous #fundie debate.org

[Are we becoming too tolerant of differences?]

Yes, and homosexuality is a good example. Tolerance is a good thing. However, it doesn't mean we shouldn't change the bad things about ourselves that can harm us physically and mentally. If you're a homosexual, you should try to be straight and stay away from relationships that involve the opposite gender. If you over eat, you should learn to control your cravings. It's simple.

iqpibloghaydenchristian #fundie debate.org

If a 10 year old human has the intellect and wisdom to have sex, then y not? It is very shallow to assume that a child cannot be more mature than an adult in a distant future , human children wud hav surpassed current mans' intellect so to label underage sex as an impossibility is an insult to human abilities if dogs learnt to talk in the future, then that too wud be perfectly viable
Pedophile are unfairly stigmatized and demonized by society and i believe they deserve to be treat equally and fairly.Many Research has proven evidence that pedophile is a sexual orientation just the same manner as homo and heterosexual.People who have pedophilic tendencies inherit it since from birth and they are born in that way they are.It is unlikely to other sub type of mental disorder which has not been conceived from birth.And children aren't always incapable of given of to sex.By saying children can never reach the same intelligent level of an adult is an absolutely an insult and ignorant point of view. I know myself good enough,i perfectly understand what sex is and are able to judge the consequence of having sex as well as making rational decision. So long as relationship is consensual and adult can make the child feel happy and comfortable, i don't really seen the relationship as abusive.

blockhead134 #fundie debate.org

Trump should be elected BECAUSE he would be a terrible president. Trump should be president, not because he would be good, but because he would do something different than the last 50 years of presidents, and something might change. Even if he drives us into the ground, there would be a massive uprising to change everything back. People will find an enemy and grow in adversity. When we aren't fighting wars, we start to bash each other down. If our leader proves to be a viable foe, the people would stop whining about unimportant things like race and sexuality and team up to fix REAL problems.

erickcuellar306 #fundie debate.org

I think not because girls are lame. We boys only watch tv after all that we do. We sweat from all our hard work. Girls should not try to compete because we are stronger. Think about it husbands give money to their wives all the time. Without boys you would be homeless. We also go out side and play sports whle you have stupid slumber parties.

Conservative12 #fundie debate.org

(In response to, "Should animals be abused?")

Animals are simple property. This is an issue that is a major problem in western civilization, too often are animals humanized and thus people think they relate to them so they give them rights similar to a human. Here are some simple points as to why animals have zero rights.

Firstly I will ask a question: is nailing a cat to a door a crime?
- Nailing a cat to a door is not a crime because laws are meant to protect humans from humans, in the case of a cat nailed to a door then no human is getting injured. However is the individual was to nail a cat to a door in a public setting then it could be seen as upsetting the peace. But if the individual does this it in private he can not be charged with anything a as he is free to do what he likes. Why should we spend money to arrest and imprison an individual who hurts animals? By taking this human out of society we are eliminating a productive human out of society. Sure the cat will feel pain but animals do not even feel pain like we do, and who cares is the cat suffers I don't care if the cutest cat ever is suffering the most horrible pain the universe can create, it is not human and we shouldn't care about it as a species. If you want to go ahead light your dog on fire I wouldn't care or judge, it is the same as lighting a tree on fire (except this 'tree' screams). This is why cats and other animals are undeserving of rights and humans are. Nailing a cat to a door is not a crime.

Second point animals are simple entities and thus are the same as rocks. Animals do not have the ability to ration or sustain a society. By definition they are not even conscious. They serve no purpose to society. So laws are in place to protect humans and society, if this dog poses a direct threat to a human it should be eliminated no question. Because they fail at all task that society throws at them then animals have no rights and are only entities that can support themselves (but due to the rock cycle animals are no better). What separates us from them is our ability to create an advancing society and our ability to ration. Until another species can appoint their own representative then I will not care about them and I will continue to be for their torture. Still this does not give an individual the permission to hurt another individuals property (or animals) because they do not own it.

Third let's not confuse a single animal from an ecosystem. An ecosystem serves many purposes to humanity and thus should be supported by law. An ecosystem provides the planet with oxygen and water two vital aspects of life. However your common dog does nothing to the environment so it has no rights.

Anonymous #fundie debate.org

I checked google that are boys better than girls. It said yes because you see mens played sports on tv. I see mens have big muscle. Some women are stronger but most mens are stronger. Girls's legs stronger than boys because girls have wide hip. Girls are better than boys at school. Boys are better than girls at life.

ghostrecon #fundie debate.org

It's nothing wrong as long as long as relationship is consensual ,but it's only wrong if the relationship was by force. While in my opinion 13 years old are mentally mature enough to understand the act and consequences as well in making decision.So they can consent.

Xkaru #fundie debate.org

Not 13 but maybe 15 or 16. Some people say "they are just children" but really who's fault is that? For at least the first couple centuries A.D. And earlier, people were married and supported themselves usually between 11-14. They handled all adult responsibilities, including sex. If they could do it then, why not now? The only reason 13 year olds are to immature is because of how we raise them. Mothers don't want their "babies" to grow up, father's want their daughters to stay "daddy's little girl" forever, and so they baby and coddle their children, some still holding their kids' hands WELL into their mid-twenties. This does them no favors. Also this isn't about adults taking advantage of minors, there are already plenty of laws regarding real rape and real sexual assault, and if your argument is "protect the children that I refuse to let grow up" then make laws for REAL rape and REAL sexual adult much stricter when the victim is a minor, but it should not be illegal for them to have sex. As things stand now even minor on minor sex is illegal, would you want your kid to go to jail as a minor for having sex with a minor boyfriend or girlfriend who may even be the same age?? Why should we call them criminals for doing what they are biological programmed to do? I think that right now 13 is too young (at the fault of the parents) but 15 or 16 is not. Most of them already have jobs in addition to school, they drive cars, they handle plenty of adult responsibility and they definitely know what sex is, what the risks are and there outcomes. So why not? Hell most of them are tried as adults if they break the law, why are they adults if they break the law but children if they want to have sex? And besides, most 15+teens are having sex anyway, why should we call them criminals for doing what their bodies are biologically programmed to do? If we were meant to have sex older than that, wouldn't puberty occur at a later age?? I say for now lower it to 15 or 16 everywhere then gradually change how we raise our kids, increase sex ed and actually teach them right from younger ages and watch as they prove to us again, as they had for centuries in the past, that they can, in fact, handle adult responsibilities, then at that point you could consider lowering it to 13.

stephannoi #fundie debate.org

Exactly i agree what you have said.Actually children can already consent to sexual activity when they are at 12 but the society force them to be immature as prolong as possible to 16 or 18.
stephannoi:
In which it seems like children cannot consent but it is not because of their ability but it is the fault of the society that want children to be in the way they favored to be by raise our children up immature which it is wrong.
stephannoi:
If it's prepubescent children i could understand that they cannot consent due to because their body is not physical mature but people generally already reach the puberty at 12 or 13 ,so at that age they are not prepubescent children.

Beluga #racist debate.org

[Title: A new paper conducted by the Geological Survey of Canada found more than 90 percent of large earthquakes in western Canada were triggered by fracking operations. Do you think fracking should be permitted?]

[Opinion posted under "Yes"]

Earthquakes to kill the unwanted people. We should continue with fracking, IT'S CLEAN ENERGY! Earthquakes and Contaminated drinking water, who cares? Earthquakes would kill off african americans and muslims. Feed the contaminated water to syrian refugees. Fracking will save our world for us, who cares about generations to come? Rasicm is where this world is built on. Not f***ing rocks.

harry truman #fundie debate.org

[In response to: Do you agree with Trump's call to boycott Starbucks for its red holiday cups?]

Yes Yes Yes The color red is a symbol for communism, or native Americans, this is the united states of america not the soviet states of commie-land, the only problem I have with this, isn't about why he is boycotting them, it is why he is not boycotting them, Starbucks supports gay marriage!

BlackHomophobicAtheists #fundie debate.org

1. Homophobes opposed gay bath houses. The police began to shut down gay bath houses in which led to the Stonewall Riots. Gays were able to keep the gay bath houses open in the name of rights.

Gay bathhouses turned out to be HIV distribution centers in which profoundly contributed to one of the worst STD epidemics in human history.

2. During the early days of HIV when only a few gays were infected, homophobes warned gays to stop having gay sex. Gays refused to stop having gay sex and as a result, the HIV epidemic switched into a mass epidemic and ended up killing thousands of gays and innocent victims who were receiving blood donations. Hiv eventually spreaded to the heterosexual community by bisexuals.

3. During the gay marriage battle, homophobes warned gay supporters that gays are too promiscuous to get married. A study by CDC shows the majority of HIV infecrions are happening within serious, gay committed relationships in which obviously includes gay marriages. According to the study, gay marriage influences unsafe sex.. the problem is, it doesn't guarantee loyalty.. Therefore, gay marriage is increasing HIV infection among gay men among gay men.

In conclusion, if gays had have obeyed homophobes, they would have shut down the gay bath houses in which would have saved thousands of gay men's lives because many of them would have not contracted HIV. During the early stages of HIV, if gays had have obeyed homophobes, they would have stopped having gay sex so many gays who died from HIV in the 80's would be still alive. During the gay marriage battle, homophobes warned gay supporters that gays are too promiscuous to get married. Gay marriage increases the risk of contracting HIV because gay marriage influences unsafe sex but it does not guarantee loyalty.

provideoman123 #fundie debate.org

Serbia is a better country than Bosnia

Serbian Artillery Is Guided By God

You Bosnians, you cannot claim to have God guide missiles to hit your homeland! God is a Serb, proven many times by expert scientists across the world. He uses His power in order to smite you heathen islamic chetnik gang Bosnians. Our hand will reach you even in Sarajevo. Beograd, Smederevo, Novi Sad i Kraljevo, every soldier is a good fellow. Karadzic will lead the serbs, they are not afraid of anything! Don't touch our country, from Krajina, the Wolves are coming. Be afraid, fascists and Turks!