There are children and there are "kids".....The children are the spring offs from the MostHigh,the kids are the offspring of the goat called Baphomet aka satan the killer of men woman and child...#spells #words
There are children and there are "kids".....The children are the spring offs from the MostHigh,the kids are the offspring of the goat called Baphomet aka satan the killer of men woman and child...#spells #words
Insiktsfull: Don't use the word "kid", it literally means goatoffspring, satanists worship the goat, it's a satanic psyop referring to GOAT of Mendes or BAPHOMET. Humans have CHILDREN.
Ellen Murrell: It’s really just a story and most artist don’t speak literally but figuratively. It’s not to be literal and it’s slang. It’s in every language.
Insiktsfull: Its a word planted by satan. It has to do with Scripture, where Jesus explains how he is gonna separate the sheep from the goats.
If you are not with Jesus you end up amongst the goats. referring to your child as "goatoffspring" is the same as considering yourself as goat. Lamb would be how Gods chosen people would refer to their children
(=an infamous quote from Carl's rant were he defends Elliot Rodger, treats incels like they're victims and lays the blame on feminism. The actual video was taken down, but numerous response videos are still up=)
"Which is ironic because, before your stupid social justice feminine bullshit, it [-mass murders-] didn't happen on this scale! It's CRAZY! This is a disease of the modern age! YOU are responsible for perpetuating it, by disenfranchising these poor fucking guys who don't have any options left!! When someone takes the option of absolute INSANELY last resort, you have to wonder, what kind of system is producing them? And I'll tell you what, Laci, IT IS A FUCKING - FEMINIST - SYSTEM - THAT IS DOING THIS!!!"
If anything, the fossil evidence at Mistaken Point would be far better interpreted as a sequence of deposition, burial and fossilization by sediments rapidly laid down by a global food and its after-effects rather than a sequence of layers representing a sequence of ages with different types of creatures over millions/billions of years of gradual evolution.
How else would you explain the fossils of soft-bodied creatures (i.e. jellyfish)? Such fossils certainly could not have formed gradually over millions of years because how long do dead jellyfish last after death and decomposition take place? Obviously, mineralization must occur before they decompose. No, my friend such fossils were not formed gradually over millions of years (that is ridiculous) but buried completely and rapidly by huge amounts of sediments laid down by huge volumes of water–what is necessary for rapid fossilization to occur, and what we would expect to find in a earth-shaking, earth-restructuring, catastrophic global flood (Genesis 6 to 9).
On the basis of the accumulated evidence (I.e. scientific, extra-biblical/secular, biblical, etc.) the Genesis Flood of the Bible is surely one of the best confirmed events in history. Expressions emphasizing the universality of the Noah’s Flood and its effects occur more than 30 times in Genesis 6 through 9 (I.e. Genesis 7:21-23; Genesis 6:17; 7: 19-20, 22; etc.). There are almost 200 non-biblical historical accounts of a gigantic flood that nearly destroyed all humanity from tribes and nations all over the world. The most detailed accounts come, as we would expect, from countries nearest to Ararat, where the Ark landed (Genesis 8:4).
Other versions turn up in Persia (modern Iraq and Iran), India, Burma, Indonesia, Sarawak, New Guina, Tahiti, Hawaii, China, Japan, Siberia, Australia (among the original inhabitants-the aborigines), and New Zealand (Maoris) , Alaska (Eskimos), North America (Red Indian), South America, Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria, Congo, South Africa, Greece, Iceland, Lithuania, Finland, Lapland, Wales and Ireland. This agrees with Genesis 9:19: “From these [three sons of Noah and their wives] the whole earth was populated.” Of course, now the Bible has come to all these countries, but the flood “legends” (I.e. The Epic of Gilgamesh) were independent of the Bible, passed down over the centuries in scores of tribal legends.
Some of the details are especially interesting; for example, Lxtlilxochitl , the native historian of the Aztecs, says that the world lasted 1716 years before it was destroyed by a flood (This figure is only 60 years different from the 1656 years which the Bible gives by addition of the ages in Genesis 5–taking into consideration the overlapping of each subsequent generation by birth. The Chinese character (symbol) for a large ship is a combination of a figure 8 and the symbol for “mouths” or “persons” (Noah + Shem + Japeth +Ham + their wives = 8). The Hottentots of South America believe they are descended from “Noh” and the Hawaiians report a flood from which only “Nu-u” and his family were saved. Very intriguing! Over 75% of the earth’s surface is overlaid by up to several miles of layer upon layer of sedimentary rocks, which according to scientific consensus are formed under water.
These massive sedimentary deposits contain billions of fossils of all life forms, both complete fossils buried in a certain order (I.e. shell fish with shell fish, animals that can climb above those less mobile, etc.) and disconnected skeletons and broken bones , such as would be expected of violent upheavals of the earth’s crust during a global flood (I.e. volcanism, tidal waves, and earthquakes). There are huge fossil graveyards on every major continent–evidence of rapid and mass death, burial, sedimentation and fossilization of life. Animals are commonly found buried in an attitude of terror with heads arched back, , mouths open, etc. (Cumberland Cavern in Maryland, U.S.). the Karroo formation of Africa contains an estimated 800 billion vertebrate fossils animals! (fossils). The Old Red Sandstone in England covers thousands of square miles and contains millions of fossilized fish (estimated more than 1000 per cubic yard) in contorted and contracted positions with spines sticking out and fins spread to the full, as in fish that die violently in convulsions and agony.
One of the most famous fossil graveyards is the Geiseltal lignite deposit in Germany where a great mixture of plants (in some instances, leaves till green) , animals, and even insects from all climatic areas of the world are found buried in one common, mass grave–evidence that they were buried deeply and quickly by water-laid sediments to seal them off from the atmosphere and bacteria that cause decay and decomposition. Add to this the fact that large scale fossilization is not occurring anywhere in the world today and you have a serious problem for uniformitarian geologists who believe these fossils were buried gradually over millions/billions of years.
There is no such thing as “gay Christianity” , no more than there is a category of Christians called “gay Christians,” “immoral Christians,” “sodomite Christians,” “idolater Christians,” or “adulterer Christians”. As the apostle Paul makes perfectly clear in 1 Corinthians 6:9-11, especially verse 11, the Gospel of salvation in Jesus Christ is the power of God to spiritually transform from the inside out the hearts and lives of all the unrighteous members of Adam’s fallen race (equals all of us )–all whose sins have spiritually separated us from God (Isaiah 59:2; Romans 3:10, 23; Romans 1:16-17), including the sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, homosexuals, sodomites, drunkards, revilers, extortioners, etc,(see 1 Corinthians 6:9-10): “And such were some of you ; but you are washed, but you are sanctified , but you are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus , and by the Spirit of our God.” (verse 11). So please note, as was true in Paul’s day, that just as the Gospel was able to save/deliver any sinner, heterosexual or homosexual, from the corrupting power and bondage of all sin , including homosexuality, then, so it is able to do so today. As the Bible explicitly states: “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creation : old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new” (2 Cor. 5:17). “Any man” , of course, includes the homosexual , and to be “in Christ” means to be saved–to become a Christian or Spirit-regenerated, Spirit-adopted son and daughter of God through the life-changing power of the Spirit of God in the new birth and faith in Jesus Christ (John 1:12-13; Ephesians 2:1, 5; 8-9; Titus 3:5; Acts 16:14; etc.). God bless.
(=From the RWBY fandom: More from homophobes and incels mourning the death of a *cartoon* villain they projected onto (Adam), and an LGBT pairing potentially becoming canon (Blake and Yang) in the wake of his death. This is an interesting dicussion that caught my attention=)
Remedy4theheart: The most brutal and bloody murder the audience as ever seen brought these two together....that's something a villian would promote.
BloodRaven55: Bro you're talking about a whole ass different show. She Ra has nothing to do with this video. Not to mention Adam's death was self defence plain and simple. He dug his own grave by refusing every chance they gave him to leave peacefully and still going for the kill even after he lost his weapon. Killing someone to prevent your own death or someone else's death is not murder, you moron.
But then you clearly don't understand what sisters are either so I'm not surprised.
Remedy4theheart: Actually the law states so long as the threat has been eliminated, this doesn't just mean once the attacker is dead, then self defense is no longer needed or legal.
Once Adam lost his weapon and the two girls stood right there weapons in hand still standing Adam was neutralized. Him jumping for the blade is indeed intent to continue his murderous intent but he was still neutralized. The girls stabbed him before he got even anywhere near another blade.
By then it was no longer self defense. It was unhinged murder. The other options the girls could have done was run away, neutralize Adam's movements IE nonlethal force, or run to the proper authorities. The one option they chose was the most brutal unnecessary one that is actually criminal to do.
They murdered him. Through the heart and dropped the body into a waterfall never to be recognized again by his loved ones. That is not what a hero does. That man had a chance at redemption. He should have been locked up.
But no....somehow life is forfeit for just being an asshole with a scarred past. Shame on you for thinking so. Adam was a murderer. But those girls were not. So why become one to get rid of one?
BloodRaven55: Dude if you had the person who emotionally abused you for years stalk you halfway across the world and try to murder you multiple times, all while verbally confirming that he will never leave you alone until you and everyone you love is dead, and he starts running for a weapon to kill you, then you would 100% go for that blade too and do whatever you had to in order to save yourself and everyone else he'd threatened. If they'd run away then he would have tracked them down and tried to kill them all over again. Non-lethal force was not an option for Blake when she had no weapon and he was about to fatally stab her. If Yang had tried to disarm him or take him out without killing him then he would have had time to kill Blake before she could do anything. They literally TRIED, more than once, to get him to back down and to take him out without his death. When she took his sword from him Yang fucking throws it away instead of using it against him, and Blake makes no move to attack until he does at any point because as she flat out says multiple times she DIDN'T WANT TO FIGHT HIM. He gave them absolutely no way to ensure their own survival in that moment other than killing him and if you think otherwise you are delusional. You're literally asking Blake and Yang to give him a huge chance of murdering them instead of defending themselves to the best of their ability. Your sense of morality is fucked beyond belief and I would be terrified if you were my friend because that would mean that if I was in Blake's position you'd just let my abuser end my life rather than do whatever you could to save me.
You also need to watch the fight again because 1) Blake was completely unarmed when Adam went for Gambol Shroud. And Yang's only weapons were ranged which would have been as likely to kill Blake as Adam if she'd tried to use them in that situation. 2) The “proper authorities” were unavailable as Grimm were attacking the military base at the time and ADAM WAS LITERALLY ABOUT TO KILL HER. What the fuck was she meant to do? Get her Scroll out and let him stab her while she tries to call the police?? Oh wait, Blake's Scroll was destroyed by Adam so she couldn't call the cops anyway regardless. Do yourself a favour and actually pay attention to the show before speaking bullshit because you obviously don't remember most of what happened.
If you are Blake, and you are unarmed while someone is running for a weapon about to kill you, then the threat has definitely NOT been eliminated. If you are Yang, and someone is running towards your unarmed partner about to grab a weapon to kill them, then the threat has definitely NOT been eliminated. Use your goddamn brain, I am begging you.
Remedy4theheart: You forgive them. Not stab them through the heart both ways and have their body beaten senseless by rushing waters.
BloodRaven55: If Blake had tried to “forgive” Adam she would be dead. So would Yang. He flat out stated his intent to murder them both multiple times and when given a categorical chance to let them live and walk away he rejected it and kept trying to kill them. You are literally asking them to let themselves be murdered instead of acting in self defence. Get some help, bro. Your moral compass is pointing in totally the wrong direction.
In real life if someone is about to stab me should I just “forgive” them and let them murder me? You’re flat out advocating for the murder of two innocent people over them defending themselves from the person trying to murder them. Think about what you’re fucking saying.
Remedy4theheart: So she gave him the early out never to learn fomr his mistakes? Yeah that true punishment should have been to lock him up reform him and show him he will fail everytime.
But no....she killed a suicidal man. Good job.
BloodRaven55: Both Blake and Yang gave him explicit chances to back down and he refused. They couldn't lock him up because the military base was compromised at the time and Blake's Scroll was broken so she couldn't call law enforcement anyway. Not to mention they had no way of restraining him and he was literally about to end Blake's life. He wasn't suicidal, he was murderous. He never once showed even a hint of remorse for any of his actions or the slightest inclination to change. He never did a single kind or selfless thing in the entire show and had zero chance at redemption.
If someone is seconds from grabbing a weapon and stabbing you and you are unarmed then you do not have the time or ability to decide how you defend yourself. You simply do what you can to protect yourself and the people around you. If Blake and Yang had done any of the things that you suggest then they would both be dead and Adam would still not be locked up or any closer to redemption. People like you terrify me and I hope I never come anywhere near someone with such warped morals as you in real life.
Blake gave Adam opportunities to improve in his Character Short, in the Black Trailer, and at least three times in the V6 fight. Yang flat out told him to leave peacefully and deliberately didn't kill him the first time she had the chance. They tried to disarm him without killing him but he still insisted on going for a weapon to slaughter them both. If you think they had any other choice in that moment then you didn't watch the same show as the rest of us.
Remedy4theheart: Violence is never the answer. You promote morals and then all of a sudden drop them because you just couldn't anymore? This is why people are saying the girls are less and less heroic these days.
BloodRaven55: I'm literally a pacifist but if I was defenceless and someone who still had a gun and was running to grab a weapon was about to murder me and another innocent person then damn right I'd be willing to kill them to defend myself. It's highly concerning that you'd rather let yourself and someone you love be murdered and "forgive" the person trying to kill you instead.
Correction: He lost everything because he murdered countless innocent people including his own men, and he travelled by his lonesome ready and willing to slaughter two innocent people to the point where even when he was given multiple chances to leave peacefully he refused.
He states himself that he stalked Blake across the world with the sole intention of murdering her. You’ve ignored every single piece of evidence from the show that I’ve provided, and you’re a sick victim blaming piece of human garbage who‘s detached from reality. Goodbye, I hope you develop a conscience soon.
(Context: There's an animated show called RWBY; in a recent season, an antagonist named Adam is killed by two of the protagonists, Blake and Yang, the former of whom is his abuse victim. Since his death, there has been backlash from incels and homophobes who defended his actions and taking their anger out of Blake and Yang's ship, nicknamed Bumblebee. This is one of many examples of this backlash.)
Mojomito: Some of ya'll are completely missing the point...
Its not because of bumblebee, it's because the shirt is pretty insensitive regarding abusive relationships. Blake & Adam had an abusive relationship from the start - that's why she left. Adam wanted to control her and later in volume 3 & 6 he emotionally and physically abused her. "A lover's quarrel" downplays the fact that Adam practically groomed the much younger Blake, manipulated her and his physical abuse, suggesting it was merely a small trouble.
An Adam shirt is fine, a shirt that glosses over the abusive nature of Blake and Adam's relationship is not.
Ability-King-KK: It is because of Bumblebee. Adam was never abusive toward Blake, but he was turned into an abuser to please the Bumblebee shippers. To Bumblebee shippers, Adam is an obstacle that needed to be taken out of the picture. Hell, Blake and Adam's relationship could have stayed as student and mentor like Monty wanted and the Bumblebee shippers would still bitch. So don't try and defend this as if Rooster Teeth did the right thing.
Mojomito: Adam literally stabbed her?
What evidence of that do you have??
In the Black Trailer you can clearly see Blake is uncomfortable with Adam's forcefulness and violent ways, leading up to her decision to leave. If everything was happy with Adam, why did she leave?
How do you know what Monty wanted? Are you a personal friend of his with whom he shared his ideas? Fans throw around "Monty's ideas" without actually ever knowing Monty or his vision for the series,
I don't trust the opinions of people who claim to know what Monty wanted and constantly whine about how things used to be before Monty died.
Too late?? My first defensive comment was posted hours ago. Honestly, without the "Lovers Quarrel" I think the shirt would've been fine. I don't think sexual and domestic abuse is a topic that should be taken lightly and if your
only response to that is to call me "Snowflake" for having paper thin feelings, perhaps you should check yourself and all the dudes crying and whining over one (1) shirt being taken down and removed from a store.
Ability-King-KK: "In the Black Trailer you can clearly see Blake is uncomfortable with Adam's forcefulness and violent ways, leading up to her decision to leave. If everything was happy with Adam, why did she leave?"
That doesn't mean they were together in a romantic sense. Not everything has to be about shipping. Had it ever occurred to you that maybe Blake left because she didn't want to be a part of that version of the White Fang? She clearly doesn't share the same ideals as the White Fang, so why stick around?
"How do you know what Monty wanted?"
Ah, the same tired question every RWBY shipper uses to try and justify themselves. Any real fan would care about the story and character development, you know, what Monty tried to give us. Any real fan knows that Adam was never meant to be a psycho ex-boyfriend, you know, what Monty did give us. But unfortunately, after Monty's death, there was clearly a change in how RWBY was written and not for the better. Everything now is clearly there to cater to the shippers and that includes turning Adam into a psycho ex-boyfriend to help push Bumblebee.
Clearly you are being defensive. At no point did I even call you a "snowflake", but you're acting as if I did. And people aren't upset just because one shirt got taken down. They're upset because of WHY it was taken down, WHO Rooster Teeth would rather listen to, and the fact that Rooster Teeth are flat out ignoring more important criticisms.
It wasn’t my intention to trigger these otherworldly discussions, but it is inevitably the outcome of removing God from the equation when talking about the Exodus. I think we have soon covered all major religions and spiritual revelations though I am still waiting for the flying monks of Tibet. I fully agree that all of these are false beliefs, but Scripture is on an entirely different level.
Listing Scripture among these examples in order to discredit its validity and producing the non-existing contradiction between biblical faith and true science, is therefore not a good technique, and any intelligent person, whether atheist or otherwise, will immediately see this (there are much more effective ways to discredit the biblical record). Also, I won’t debase myself by listing famous scientists who were drunkards; as said, I will leave these methods of argumentation to the more experienced ones.
A commoner like me will scarcely put trust in people who see ignoring causality as the only rational approach. The rational basis for my assertions is creation by God, the irrational basis for your assertions is the expansion of a little black dot (or maybe it was green – correct me if I’m wrong, Eugene). The big bang is a non-demonstrable belief whereas divine creation is a demonstrable fact.
As said, I like science, and there has been mind-boggling progress alone over the last decade let alone since the 17th century. However, regarding the origins, structure, and age of the universe and of the earth, there has been regress, and the established so-called scientific paradigm is – I am sorry to say – wrong (no matter how scientifically sound the components of these fallacies might be).
As for theology, I am probably not up to scratch with the general consensus of modern Biblical scholarship, but if it implies the non-existence of God, then I beg to differ.
James/Kathleen/Eugene (et al.),It is commonly known that, unless more hypothetical factors are added, the predictions made from the big bang model stand in utter contradiction of what we observe.
The crucial point, however, is not what happened after the bang, but what happened prior to it. Leaving Steady State aside, one can choose between: a) “everything came from nothing” (effect without a cause)b) “everything came from something” Because option a) is idiotic, it was utterly rejected by Fred Hoyle. Making fun of it, he called it sarcastically the “big bang”. Today, it is obviously idiotic not to accept the idiotic option, viz. the miraculous effect without a cause.
I assume this is all part of “the beauty of science”, the evolving ‘facts’, etc. That the current consensus is aligned with the views presented in this thread is perfectly fine. Personally, I prefer option b), and if that merits the designation of “religious fanatic”, then this is fine too. What is not fine is to teach children this miraculous illogical model without giving them the alternative version. And to clear the misunderstanding, – I don’t think the big bang theory is deplorable, it’s merely stupid.
Bombarding children and young teenagers with the stereotype, “13.8 billion years ago blablaba”, without even giving option b), – that is a deplorable crime which rather merits getting a millstone around the neck and to be drowned. I certainly don’t expect my insights to reform the education system anymore, but at least I’d like to air my views.
In response to further contributions: Uniformitarianism is not science but the result of disallowing a Divine Foot in the door. It’s merely the consequence of believing in the above magic, i.e. in an effect without a cause. As for evolution, it can be nipped in the bud right away: life doesn’t arise spontaneously from non-living chemicals, and if someone nevertheless wants to believe in the impossible, then I admire their faith, but I don’t share it and deem it irrelevant for our discussion. If it helps people to believe that they are unaccountable accidents, then I will be the last person to stand in their way.
I don’t know what the “antichrist reference” has to do with our subject, but it seems that the faculty of Atatürk University plus the Turkish government is viewed as a bunch of idiots or anti-science fanatics (this is what I am forced to conclude).
It is a pitiful tactic of recommending science, but I do appreciate the scoffing and also the vehement opposition if a find supports Scripture. Both of these practices prove the reliability of the biblical text. Considering all the redundant prattle, I wouldn’t mind moving on now and look at some (potential :-) autoptic archaeological evidence: Mt. Sinai, the encampment area, the altar of the golden calf, etc. – that kind of thing… any interest? No?
PS: James, – fossilized timber specimen found at the ark site was tested and showed 0.7019% organic carbon (plus 13.04% iron).
(=Justifying Amber Heard's abuse of Johnny Depp, such as hitting him, cutting off his finer and defecating in his bed, etc=)
Sometimes victims of physical abuse fight back or lash out against their abuser. Sometimes them fighting back isn’t in immediate self-defense, I.E. they’re not being violently assaulted in that moment. They’re fighting back against the “cycle” of violence and control and fear and general terror (and yes, anger, a lot of victims are angry at their abuser, strangely enough/s ) that the abuser is putting them through.
This, fighting back or lashing out against the abuser does NOT mean that the victim was the real abuser all along, and it does NOT mean that the relationship is “mutually abusive.”
To put it into perspective, I hope, consider this.
An emotionally abusive relationship.
Partner A is constantly demeaning Partner B, insulting their appearance, belittling their intelligence and accomplishments, making decisions for them, calling them names, gaslighting them, etc etc.
at one point, after this has been a constant issue, Partner B says to Partner A: “God, you’re such an asshole!” This obviously does not mean Partner B is the emotional abuser, and it does not mean the relationship is mutually emotionally abusive.
(=comments under her post=)
analuciacortez: but people want to ignore the video of him hitting things, the texts, the restraining order amber got against him, how he tried to attack a crew member in 2018, the fact that his currect girlfriend is like half his age, and every single shady thing he’s done
analuciacortez: @nocakesformissedith right. and then there’s the whole “oh, but his ex wife, winona ryder and penelope cruz said he’s a good guy who never hurt them!!”… and?? unless they are chained to him, they have no way of knowing what his relationship with amber is like. that whole “he didn’t do anything to me so he’s innocent” mentality doesn’t work. my dad is a saint to his friends and then he comes home and treats me and my mom like shit.
nocakesformissedith: @analuciacortez yes, it’s so frustrating, it seems like most people think amber was the abuser. The leaked audio tape was taken out of context, in the clip where amber admits to “hitting” Depp she also claims it was in self defense, and there are AT LEAST three instances where Depp admits to or Amber accused him of being violent towards her (which he does not deny) and yet no one talked about that
Ron Cantor: Dear Rabbi, please read the very next verse:
23 “‘Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.
and then in verse 29 he refers to all the prohibitions as "destestable" or "abominitions"... same word that you interpret as "deceitful"
So, based on your interpretation, it is fine to have sex wtih an aminal as long as you are not married.
But in mordern Hebrew the word is clearly not decitful but destestable or an abomnination. Here is a sentnece that the dictiionary gives.
התעללות בילדים היא מעשה תועבה ...
Child ause is a DESTABLE act ...
If God is God and I beleive He is; if He is the author of the Hebrew scriptures and created mankind, then it is clear from Torah that our first command it so replinish the earth. You cannot replenish the earth or procreate in same sex unions. There is not hint of encoueagement of same sex unions in ancient Israel. We do not see Moses saying, "It is fine to have sexual relations with members of your gender provided that you are monagamous." Not even a hint!
But we live in a broken world becuase of the sin of Adam and Eve. For people with same sex attracations, my heart goes out to them. But it is a fearful thing to change the word of God.
Benny Attar: There would be no need for a law against bestiality if people weren't doing it. I find it incomprehensible that people like you are more accepting of adultery, which is prohibited in the ten commandments, than of homosexuality.
Ron Cantor: Benny Attar "more accepting of adutlery"? Nope...just as bad. In fact, Jesus said if you look at a woman and lust, you are guilty of adultery. He was not acccepting and neither am I. By the way, it is the author excusing adultery, as casual homosexual relationships are adulterous. But here is what you can't deny--and I was addressing the torah-beleiving rabbi--if you beleive in the God of the bible then there is no way to find a place for homosexual relationships.
(Context: Still bitching over a fictional LGBT ship (Bumblebee) in a cartoon. This is actually considered one of the most important arguments among the RWBY Critic community, alongside the death and portrayal of an abusive villain.)
CardcaptorKatara: Yes its good to have more focus on the other teams, but I don't believe there is anything wrong with LGBTQ representation.
Ability-King-KK: There is when it's there just for the sake of a ship. Other shows like Legend of Korra, Steven Universe, and more recently Star vs the Forces of Evil added it just to pander as there was absolutely no build up or development to said ships. That's a sign of poor writing.
CardcaptorKatara: I'm not an advocate for whiterose but bumblebee has been there from the beginning. I don't any of this show has been written for the sake of a ship. Give me one example of whiterose? Because I've seen none. If you go back to season 1 and watch from there, there are many moments that lead up to the canon of bumblebee. It's subtle and its there. Good writing for relationships are written that way. I'm sorry if you have an issue with ships, but they will be part of any good story because that's human emotion, and it makes the story feel more real.
Ability-King-KK: At no point has there ever been Bumblebee. Blake has always shown interest in Sun and to think otherwise is asinine. Not only that, but Yang has been shown to ogle the other boys in their academy. Bumblebee was never going to be a thing until Rooster Teeth decided to pander to people like you, people who only care about ships.
CardcaptorKatara: Relationships don't need to be about people seeing someone and blushing or making eyes at guys. Also being Bisexual is a thing. I will not deny Yang likes to flirt and Blake had a thing for Adam in the past and at some point maybe crushed on Sun a little. Subtle acts are key.
Like checking to make sure someone isn't burning themselves out by constantly staying awake.
This was the very beginning of their relationship as partners, and it grew deeper than the whole rest of the team.
If you don't ship it that's fine. I don't care who ships what. I just think its ignorant to blatantly disregard any references to LGBTQ. This includes Ilia and Scarlet (Though I'm guessing you probably hate those characters too)
Ability-King-KK: Bumblebee is forced, unnatural, and only there to pander. It is not canon and should never be canon, so stop acting like there is something there.
As for Ilia and Scarlet...everything on Scarlet has not been confirmed to be canon and Ilia is another poorly written character thanks to Rooster Teeth's decisions.
Mike Sigman: Why can't I disapprove of some activity without it being called a "phobia" by these people on the Left? Is there a "phobia" because I disapprove of incest? Is there a "phobia" because I disapprove of pedophilia? Is there a "phobia" because I avoid people who are unhygenic? Is there a "phobia" because I don't want to have extended conversations with people who are slow-witted? Maybe the author of the piece should ask himself why he feels compelled to virtue signal and to encourage others to think as he does.
Grama LinLin Just take a look at what God did to Sodam and Gomorrah, and tell me again that being gay is not a sin! And if you do, I will call you a liar!!!!
The digression to the ark really tempts me to take apart, piece by piece, some of “science’s” sophistries, but it’s probably better to open a separate thread, something like: “Why is there no evidence for a) the Big Bang b) the geological periods c) molecule-to-man evolution?” – because it’s all nonsense.
As for the ark, I have spent quite a few hours there. It has a bow, a stern, and is 300 cubits or 157 metres long, i.e. the measurements given to Noah by God. As the terminology seemed to have been somewhat blurred in this thread: by the non-descript title “God” I am referring to YHVH – not to Jedi, King Kong or similar. A qualified expert would probably not recognize it as a ship, though it looks like a ship and sits – funny enough – on the Ararat Mountains, as stated in the Bible.
The fossil record shows anyway that there was a world-wide flood, but the ark is additional proof for this.
In 1987, Ataturk University confirmed the boat-shaped object to be Noah’s Ark, and the discovery was subsequently announced by the Turkish government. The “scientifically-minded” may not be interested, but here are some photos I took during my visit (plus attached a resistivity scan FYI):
Scientists who are motivated or driven by what they want or hope to be true are very hesitant to accept any evidence that would appear to be contrary to their cherished beliefs. Instead, an endless mixture of false assertions, false premises, and false conclusions plus ridicule, all clad in fancy scientific language – that is the over and over repeated defence strategy.
It is not my concern as such, but it is regrettable and a clear symptom of degenerate humanity, but fortunately, it will terminate soon.
PS: James, – teaching children “the best scientific model” as fact is not education, it is re-education.
Sexual sin has been going on for thousands of years. Of course the most infamous wrath of God would of occurred when the rainbow formed after the rain which was the covenant of God destroying same sex marriage. This is why when Jesus is asked in Matthew 24 36-39 “But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, but My Father only. But as the days of Noah were, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be. For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, and did not know until the flood came and took them all away, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be.
Even after the flood and King David passed his kingdom to his song Solomon.This is why you hear about 12 tribes, God divided King Solomon’s kingdom because he was in homosexual sin which is an abomination to God In 1 Kings 11:5-13
5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, and after Milcom the abomination of the Ammonites. 6 Solomon did evil in the sight of the Lord, and did not fully follow the Lord, as did his father David.
9 So the Lord became angry with Solomon, because his heart had turned from the Lord God of Israel, who had appeared to him twice, 10 and had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods; but he did not keep what the Lord had commanded.
11 Therefore the Lord said to Solomon, “Because you have done this, and have not kept My covenant and My statutes, which I have commanded you, I will surely tear the kingdom away from you and give it to your servant.
12 Nevertheless I will not do it in your days, for the sake of your father David; I will tear it out of the hand of your son. 13 However I will not tear away the whole kingdom; I will give one tribe to your son for the sake of My servant David, and for the sake of Jerusalem which I have chosen.”
Nevertheless, homosexuality has been proven Pre-Jesus as the furthest evidence of rebellion against God twice, and then Jesus confirming that He is here to uphold the law and NOT abolish. And in Matthew Jesus Christ who is the truth, the way and the light to all confirms, when the times of Noah returns, so will He. We are living in the Biblical Prophesy and Salvation is near and I encourage all men to surrender and confess the sins that live inside you and call out, CRY out for God and be blessed with the gift of the Holy Spirit.
Supporting gay marriage is supporting rebellion against God. We MUST be careful of the deception Satan portrayed with this massive apostasy that Satan is using so well to capture 69% of our country. It fits EXACTLY as what Jesus warned us about. EVERYTHING is being fulfilled.
900,000,000 Are Going to HELL, But Don't Worry You're Safe
Hell is a real place and the Bible teaches us all those who have not trusted Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour will go to Hell and be cast into the lake of fire. Evangelist Joe Kirby pleads with Christians to do evangelism and reach lost souls who are heading to hell and will enter into gloomy darkness.
(=A reply to "Homophobia is the real sin"=)
the devil loves this kind of deception coming from the so-called religious, the Torah is clear on this abomination as are the rest of the prophets
the writer is in danger of hellfire and will have the blood of those he leads astray to answer for
you are warned according to Ezekiel 3 and 33
Ave Şîn: What a busha v'herpa! You quote only selected passages and leave out the psak! The Torah declares that homsexual relations incur the death penalty (when there are witnesses and warnings, of course). When the Torah states that some act is a capital offense, only an absolute heretic would dare say that it is "no sin".
Benny Attar: There is at least one country which enacts the death penalty for homosexual relations.
Ave Şîn Avi: Rounds Anything that carries the death penalty is at minimum a sin and at maximum....... Toeva is from the root l'ta'ev - to despise. The accurate translation is despicable.
Ave Şîn: Benny Attar In the past as well, a court would only enforce the death penalty when there were 2 witnesses who warned the person and he stated he would do it nevertheless. So, we almost never actually had such a situation. Yet, the warning of the severity of capital offences of all sorts was enough to keep people considerate in public of the standards the Bible set. In private, the accounting is between God and man alone.
I am not sure if I’ve sent this already. Anyway, here goes – a few general comments relating to the above article:
I think the denial of eternal torment is simply a feature of fallen and degenerated mankind – they don’t like the prospect, so they explain it away. And that’s basically all there is to it.
Even if the Bible warned on every page about everlasting destruction and torment, they would explain it away (instead of submitting to God). And most people love it that way, it just sells better.
The real reason for denying eternal torment cannot not be found in Scripture, but lies in a combination of wishful thinking, humanistic conditioning, and being used by the adversary – in short, in having a rebellious heart. It is comparable to what the Nazis did when they lured one load after the other into the death chambers, telling them not to worry.
Modern man has created God in his own image, i.e. on his own terms and as a projection of his own alienated heart. If he can’t identify with God as revealed in Scripture, he simply creates a nicer one (e.g. “a God of love won’t condemn people to eternal suffering”). I can’t imagine that anyone who is born of water and Spirit (with the sign of tongues) would dare to explain away what Yeshua has warned us about again and again – it’s probably one of the most wicked things one can do.
Needless to say that the punishment will be much sorer for those who explain away the deterrent and thereby cause others to join them in the pit.I sometimes wonder what people think the Messiah suffered and died for. So we can walk on streets of gold and if we’re unlucky we’ll peacefully rest in our grave (I mean, how dumb can you get?)
Maybe people will have the chance to present the results of their exegesis or eisegesis on Judgment Day, who knows? They may explain to God why they thought the lake of fire was a relic of medieval thought, etc. Of course, if they have died in their sins, i.e. unregenerate, they’ll go anyway to hell despite their hermeneutics – they’ve had their warnings. Shalom,
We are not under the law [of sin & death], but under grace [to walk in the law]. Rom. vi, 15
Rayburne Winsor:The Bible does no need the deductions of scientists to explain the Big Bang. That is nonsense. The Bible declares this universe had a beginning (Genesis 1:1), and science confirms that, though the Big Bang is rift with problems. confirm the The Bible is not a science textbook, but it has nothing to fear from operational or experimental science that is confirming again and again its truth. One day, science will catch up with the Bible and scientists whose god is "goo-to-you evolution" will stand before the Creator/God they deny.
(Responding to a blog post by a Universalist pastor)
Theodore A. Jones:“For it is not those who hear the law who are righteous in God’s sight, but it is those who obey the law who will be declared righteous.” Rom. 2:13 Hiett desperately needs to understand that the word law in this statement is not a reference to the OT written code of law. The law was changed by and after Jesus’ crucifixion. Heb. 7:12 This law was put in effect through angels by a Mediator. Acts 7:53, Gal. 3:19. It is only those who have the faith to obey this law who are declared righteous by God. There are no exceptions. The conjecture of universal salvation is pure poppycock!
glwadmin: Hello Theodore, thanks for your comment. However It is impossible to respond to you personally not knowing your background. Whether you reside in the Arminian or the Calvinistic camp will require a completely opposite response to your comment! I would say that you have to square your opening Scripture with Paul’s other statements such as:“And to the one who does not work but believes in Him who justifies the ungodly, His faith is counted as righteousness, just as David also speaks of the blessing of the one to whom God counts righteousness apart from works.” (Rom 4:5,6)I’m just so glad that it is the faith OF Christ that ultimately saves us. “He is the Author and Perfecter of our faith.” His is the faith in which we will all stand and then bow the knee to and confess that He is indeed our only Lord and Savior… indeed our sole life and identity is found only in Him! “All the inhabitants of the earth will remember and return to the Lord…” (Psa 22) It is His faith in His own salvation that ignites our faith: “I am crucified with Christ …and the life I live I live by the faith OF Jesus Christ who loved me and gave His life for me.” (Gal 2:20 -The Greek says “the faith OF Christ”)And finally, I am so glad that it is not our thoughts about God that define Him (our 30,000 denominations…!) but His thoughts about us that define us–His image and likeness redeemed and revealed in Christ Jesus!
Theodore A. Jones: I think you had best better square your soteriological assumptive to what that man wrote. After all he says “Do not go beyond what is written.” 1 Cor. 4:6
I am not affiliated what any contemporary religious perspective. Your concern of that matter is irrelevant. The fact that is relevant is that only a few ever find the gate into God’s kingdom and you are not in this class...And neither is Hiett.
glwadmin said: I am alarmed by the glib nature of your comment regarding your assessment of the state of both myself and Peter Hiett’s souls. Sounds eerily like Jonah of Ninevah, the Pharisees regarding the “sinners,” the elder brother of his father’s mercy…and also the angry vineyard workers. It might be good if you at least wished that none should perish as God Himself has confessed He does: “He is not willing that any should perish but all should come to repentance. ”I guess Origen and a great number of the early Church Fathers and the churches under them never found “the gate” to heaven either for they believed and taught that God was able to do everything that He intended to do: “destroy the works of the devil…every knee shall bow…reconcile the world to Himself…making all things new…until He is all in all
Theodore A. Jones: Yep. You’re right they didn’t have any idea of what the gate is. They were the fathers of your churches, but isn’t it written “Call no man on earth father”? Perhaps you should have considered His confine, aye? For doing things His way you don’t wind up with egg on your face nor the offal of your sacrifices that He intends to smear on your faces either. But the stiffneck misquote the scripture to cover their disregard of it.
“The lord is not slack concerning His promise, The GUILTY shall not go unpunished, as some men (you & Pete) count slackness; but is longsuffering to usward, not willing that any should perish, but that ALL (which includes your sinning, lying, recalcitrant posterior) should come to repentance regarding the sin of His only begotten son’s murder. Now. Nut case. Dream up some other defense for your wholistically false doctrine. For isn’t it his prediction that the chaff is separated? God did reconcile the world to himself…for total destruction. And the only Way of escape is by the faith of repenting of the sin of His only begotten son’s murder. There are no exceptions.
(Submitter’s note: I edited out a lot of the clubber texts to shorten the guys rant)
A gentleman kindly submitted me a copy of a letter that Paul Harvey read on his radio newscast. It is entitled, "An Open Letter from God" a.k.a. "A Letter from God". I read it with rapt interest for many people had been looking for a copy of it. It is a blasphemy and heresy.
I was stunned by the universalist viewpoint of this letter. Believe me, the true God did not write it. A god of the writer's imagination did. Let's take a SCRIPTURAL look at "A Letter from God" read by Paul Harvey (if you want to read the actual letter read by Paul Harvey go here). In the following commentary, Mr. Harvey's comments are in red...
(Aside: I was recently made aware that "A Letter from God" was a letter anonymously submitted to Mr. Harvey. When I wrote the article that you are about to read, I wasn't sure if Paul Harvey wrote the letter or if one of his listeners did. It didn't make much difference either way because by reading it on his program, it seems that Mr. Harvey put his endorsement to it.)
Paul Harvey says everybody is a child of God.
"My Dear Children...believe me, that is all of you."
Everybody is a creature of God, but not everybody is a child of God. Jesus said that the Devil is the father of those who do not belong to Him:
Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
--Jesus Christ, John 8:44
The only way to become a child of God is to be adopted by faith in the blood of Jesus Christ. There is NO OTHER WAY:
Paul Harvey says God used evolution in creation.
"I consider myself a pretty patient guy. I mean, look at the Grand Canyon. It took millions of years to get it right. And about evolution-- boy, nothing is slower than designing that whole Darwinian thing to take place cell by cell and gene by gene."
The Bible says that God created the universe and everything in it in six literal days:
...in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.
God made man from the dust of the earth (Genesis 2:7), even the Periodic Table shows that. Those who believe the Bible already know that the theory of evolution is a lie. Even a cursory examination of their flimsy "evidence" reveals evolution to be a fairy tale.
Paul Harvey says God didn't author the Bible and you can't trust it.
As you will see below, he calls the books of all religions "bibles." The only "religion" with a book called the "Bible" is the Christian religion. Within the CHRISTIAN religion (NOT the Roman Catholic religion), The Authorized Version of the Bible conformable to the edition of 1611 is the authorized version of the Bible--AND YES YOU ******CAN******** TRUST IT--MORE THAN YOUR TWO EYES !!!!!!!!!!!!! The apostles did not follow cunningly devised fables--they were eyewitnesses of the majesty of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ--
Many people are following the false teachers. They are denying the Lord Jesus Christ today. His blood is the only thing that will save the sinner. All have sinned and come short of the glory of God. We need forgiveness of our sins. To be forgiven we must believe in the death, burial and resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ. The reader may wish to see our article entitled, How to Get to Heaven. Men today are blaspheming the name of the Lord Jesus. They are denying him, and they are choosing evil spirits, and idols and images and yoga and meditation and are heading toward hell. And they are speaking evil of the Bible, the word of God.
2 Peter 2:2 AND MANY SHALL FOLLOW THEIR PERNICIOUS WAYS; BY REASON OF WHOM THE WAY OF TRUTH SHALL BE EVIL SPOKEN OF.
Time is winding up and many people are believing the lies and blasphemies of the false teachers--that includes the multitude of fake Christian groups and fake churches.
"Every one of your religions claims... that it's bible was written personally by me, that all the other bibles are man made. Oh, me! How do I ever begin to put a stop to such utter nonsense...I hate to break it to you, but I don't write...so all of your books, including those bibles, were written by men and women. They were inspired men and women...they also made mistakes here and there and I made sure of that so that you would NEVER TRUST A WRITTEN WORD rather than your own living heart!"
This is a blasphemy-packed statement by Harvey's god. We'll look at several things here.
God indeed wrote the Holy Bible using living instruments--these were holy men of old:
The god of Paul Harvey says that we should never trust in a written word. This is a biggie. Without the Bible, we have lies for the Bible IS TRUTH. In one stroke, Mr. Harvey takes away the only source of truth that we have. Jesus said:
Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. John 17:17
The written word has always been operative in God's dealing with mankind. The Ten Commandments were written in stone! The Jewish people were the careful custodians of the written scriptures:
What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. (Romans 3:1-2)
God has always emphasized the importance of keeping His written word:
This BOOK OF THE LAW SHALL NOT DEPART OUT OF THY MOUTH; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is WRITTEN therein... (Joshua 1:8)
Psalm 119 is the longest chapter in the Bible and it is ALL about the importance of knowing the scriptures.
But what about in the New Testament? Jesus read from the BOOK Isaiah in the synagogue in Luke 4:17.
Paul read the gospel of JESUS IN THE WRITTEN WORD! Listen:
Paul Harvey's god says we should trust in our own hearts. What doth the Bible say about our hearts?
For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies. Matthew 15:19
The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it? Jeremiah 17:9
Paul Harvey says God is a Father and a MOTHER.
"All right, listen up now! I am your father and mother."
The Bible NEVER refers to God as a mother. It only refers to Him as a Father. This mother business is some new age mumbo-jumbo and goddess worship.
Paul Harvey says God doesn't want the gospel preached.
"You act like I need you and your religion to stick up for me or win souls for my sake. Please don't do me any favors. I can stand on my own, thank you."
Jesus said to preach the gospel to everyone! His parting words are called, "The Great Commission". Paul Harvey mentions a Jesus in his "A Letter From God"--why? Why? Why? Look at what Jesus said after He rose from the dead:
And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. (Matthew 28:18-20)
Jesus said to go, but Paul Harvey's god says, "Shut up and let people perish in hell! I don't need your help!"
Paul Harvey's god accepts the disobedient, the murderer, liar, drunkard, thief, whoremonger, pedophile, etc. "with no strings attached." All criminals are in good standing with his god no matter what they do--it is the devil that accepts all criminals and sins and false religions that drown men in perdition, but the true and the living God is a good God and he is just and holy. All those that come to him through faith in his Son, Jesus, are helped by him to live rightly and holily. The days filled with fornication, lying, theft, and false worship are over--and God's true people are glad about that--true Christians are not like some kind of penned in dog wishing he were free to do evil. When we are born again, we start obeying God's word and we find that even our very desires change. Paul Harvey's god says, "No strings attached." It is the devil that tells men to do what they feel like doing. The devil is the god of this world (ref. 2 Corinthians 4:4). It is the devil that has seducing spirits and doctrines of devils that entice and deceive people. The true and the living God has holy, righteous commands found in his word.
"...And I love you anyway with NO STRINGS ATTACHED. So, lighten up, and enjoy me. That's what religions are for."
Ah, but there is a string attached--His name is Jesus and without him, a person will NEVER enter glory but eternal punishment in the lake of fire will be his dwelling place. Jesus said (not the Jesus of Mr. Harvey's imagination):
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him. John 3:36
Jesus came to save us from our sins. We are all spiritual criminals.
Paul Harvey says every devil (behind the idols are devils) and false prophet is God.
"And, I am very tired of your main excuse. Do you think I care whether you call me God, or Jaway, or Jehovah, or Allah, Wakatonka, Branda, Father, Mother, even the Void of Nirvana. Do you think I care which of my special children you feel closest to: Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad, or any of the others? You can call me and my special ones any name you choose if only you will go about my business of loving one another as I love you."
The Bible says that there is ONLY ONE NAME THAT CAN SAVE YOUR SOUL
THAT NAME IS JESUS!
Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is NONE OTHER NAME under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. (Acts 4:12)
Paul Harvey says there are many paths to God. This is a lie. God is a Spirit and they that worship him must worship him in spirit AND IN TRUTH (see John 4:24)! What is truth? God's word is truth (see John 17:17)! None of this "make-it-up-as-you-go-and-you-will-be-alright." The Bible reveals that this is not so! It will not be alright. I walked that do-what-you-feel-like-doing-path for too long--I dishonoured myself and others, I was on my way to hell, AND MY BABY IS DEAD FROM ABORTION! IF YOU WANT TO LIVE WITH GOD, YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN BY REPENTING OF YOUR SINS AND BELIEVING ON THE DEATH, BURIAL AND RESURRECTION OF HIS SON, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. WE ALL NEED THE LORD JESUS--THAT INCLUDES ALL THOSE THAT THINK THAT THEY ARE "GOOD". ROMANS 3:23 TEACHES THAT ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. (How to Get to Heaven)
"Each has a unique style so that people can find the best path for themselves. But my special children, the ones your religions revolve around all live in the same place, in my heart. And they get along perfectly, I assure you. The clergy must stop creating a myth of sibling rivalry where there is none."
This is the essence of eastern mysticism--you can get to God any old kind of way. People operate by absolutes in EVERY area of life--a foot is 12 inches, stop at a stoplight, pay taxes, etc.--but when it comes to the most important thing in the universe all of a sudden people say that they cannot know the truth about the Lord God who created them. The truth of the matter is that people don't like God's requirements (found in the Holy Bible--the Authorized (King James) Version of 1611) so they go off in their own direction and choose what they want to follow. They are rebels. God left his commandments written down on paper so that we can come to faith and not be confused and deceived by deceivers. Many people want to be in God's good graces--but they want to do it their way and do whatever sins they feel like doing.
This will only ensure their eternal damnation. We come to God on his terms. We have sinned and he sent his only begotten Son, the Lord Jesus Christ, to die for our sins so that we can be forgiven. If we do not repent of our sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, we will die in our sins. "There are many paths just find the one that best fits you," is a lie from Satan. Disobedient church people are now basically jumping into the eastern mysticism through the "contemplative prayer" vain repetition movement. It looks like that is going to be the occult devil-worshipping spirituality for these end times.
All the occult traditions/repetitious calling-spirits traditions seem to be coming together--hinduism, buddhism, Roman Catholic mysticism, Greek Orthodox Hesychast, Kabbalism, etc. People are being prepared for the coming of the beast is coming. By peace he shall destroy man. The day of the Lord is also coming. On that day we will all stand before God at the final judgment and the books are going to be opened. We will all be there--including all the dead people...they won't be left out--nobody will be left out.
Paul Harvey says religions get along perfectly--but a cursory look around reveals that that is not true. just look at the writings of each and see that they CONTRADICT each other. Just look at their names--THEY ARE DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT THINGS DO NOT AGREE. The Lord Jesus Christ made known that he is the way, the truth, and the life; NO MAN COMETH UNTO THE FATHER BUT BY HIM (see John 14:6, Authorized Version of 1611 of the Bible). Look at Islam's conquest by the sword. Look at the Inquisition of the Roman Catholic "Church" and her torturing and burning people up that do not agree with her. Finally, "the clergy" is not creating sibling rivalry because...
The Bible is what is dividing people and exposing the truth, not the "clergy". Jesus said in Matthew 10:34, "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword." Amen and glory to God. The Word of God is quick and powerful and sharp. Mr. Harvey espouses an imaginary Jesus who does not resemble the real Jesus Christ who is Lord of Lords and King of Kings.
There is no "sibling rivalry" because until a person has been born again, they are not my brother or sister in the faith (in the flesh yes, in the faith, no. We are all children of Adam and Eve and I have had the opportunity to enjoy the fellowship of many different peoples--black, white, Samoan, Japanese, Philippino, etc. but my brethren in the Lord know him.). Any so-called rivalry between the true Christian and the heathen is not rivalry at all. Heathens killing Christians is not sibling rivalry--it is the unrighteous persecuting the righteous (not righteous because we are righteous in and of ourselves but because we are made the righteousness of God in the Lord Jesus--because we believe in him and obey his word). The persecuting non-Christian is offended at the gospel message. This is no surprise because the Bible clearly says that Jesus Christ is a rock of offense to the disobedient: "...a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient..." ( 1 Peter 2:8). Real Christians (there are plenty of fake ones) do not use persecution and force against others.
I have one last comment.
This, "A Letter from God" should be called,
A LETTER FROM SATAN
AN OPEN LETTER TO PAUL HARVEY REGARDING
"THE LETTER FROM GOD"
GARY W. SUMMERS
On Saturday, March 7th, news commentator Paul Harvey read a lengthy document purporting to be "a letter from God." He said it was on the Internet but did not specify where or how to access it. For this response we wanted the text that he read so that we could quote precisely from it. When calling his office, however, we were informed that 1) he was out of town this week, 2) no one in the office had a transcript of it, and 3) they did not know how to find it on the Internet. Since the letter purports to be from God and was written by someone anonymously, searching for the document on the Internet proved fruitless. So, in place of the precise text, we (of necessity) must rely for the moment on memory and a few hastily scribbled notes.
Dear Mr. Harvey,
Before reading the "letter from God" on the air last week, you described your reluctance to do so, mentioning your consultation with family members, some of whom disagreed with the plan. If you are still vacillating as to the letter's genuineness, I can assure you that the letter is phony from beginning to end. The contents are thoroughly humanistic and totally outrageous to anyone who takes seriously the teachings of the Bible.
The letter begins by stressing the patience of God with respect to the years it took Him to create the Grand Canyon. This error was enhanced with a statement that He had spent millions of years creating the world through Darwinian evolution. Mr. Harvey, it may have been a while since you read Genesis 1; if you will check, the verses there mention days, not years.
Not only are days mentioned (as opposed to millions of years), but what occurred on each and every day is specifically detailed. God rested on the seventh day (Gen. 2:2). When God gave His law to Israel, he told them to rest on the seventh day: "For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day" (Ex. 20:11). We still observe a seven-day week, Mr. Harvey. Is there some other explanation for that besides Genesis 1?
Attempts to compromise evolution with the Bible have failed; it is obvious from Exodus 20:11 that the days of Genesis 1 are intended to be understood literally, and in fact there is nothing in the text that would suggest any kind of figurative interpretation. Nowhere else in the entire Bible is any doubt cast upon the fact that the days in Genesis are literal, 24-hour days. In fact, this truth is only corroborated:
By the word of the Lord the heavens were made, and all the host of them by the breath of His mouth. He gathers the waters of the sea together as a heap; He lays up the deep in storehouses. Let all the earth fear the Lord; let all the inhabitants of the world stand in awe of Him. For He spoke, and it was done; He commanded, and it stood fast (Ps. 33:6-9).
There is only one ideology that needs millions, perhaps billions, of years--evolution. The power of God is such that He can do things instantaneously. Could God have used billions of years to create the world? Yes. But did He? He says He did not, but rather accomplished the whole feat in six days. The so-called "letter from God" would have Him contradicting Himself.
The Destruction of Inspiration
But even more deadly than the preceding subject is the declaration that in all of the Scriptures God inspired He made sure there were mistakes. Mr. Harvey, if such a position were true, it would make the Bible worthless. The Bible cannot be both inspired and yet contain errors. If it is, then who will point out the places in which it is wrong: you? Please tell us the flaws so that we may not believe and practice things that are wrong.
If the Bible contains errors, then maybe it is wrong in telling us to love one another or to love our enemies. It might be mistaken as it describes the beauties of heaven; certainly, those descriptions of hell fire must be erroneous since most people find them unpalatable. Yes, we have a real problem on our hands, trying to determine what verses have error in them.
There is also a conflict with what the Bible teaches. The apostles were told they would be guided into all truth (John 16:12-13); Peter later affirmed that "God has given us all things that pertain to life and godliness" (2 Peter 1:3). Paul told the Thessalonians that he had taught them the truth (1 Thess. 2:13) and that it was equally valid whether he taught them orally or by epistle (2 Thess. 2:15). Imagine that! Paul was assuring everyone that he was teaching them the truth (Gal. 1:8-9), but God may have tricked him and occasionally given him some error to write.
This kind of drivel is nothing more than warmed-over modernism which sought to do away with the inspiration and integrity of the Scriptures; it's just not as clever as what Wellhausen and "higher criticism" developed in the last century. It is an appalling and loathsome idea which is extremely offensive to Christians. Shame on you, Mr. Harvey, for giving this "letter" any credence whatsoever. How can you repeat your birdcage illustration each year if you believe the contents of this "letter"? After, all, redemption from sin may just be one of those errors that God put into the Scriptures.
Another bit of advice purportedly from God was: "Trust in your own heart rather than the words written in a book." Oh, such wisdom! Isn't trusting in his own heart what Cain did? The Bible specifically says: "He who trusts in his own heart is a fool, but whoso walks wisely shall be delivered" (Pr. 28:26). "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked; who can know it?" (Jer. 17:9).
Making one's heart the authority is not only foolish; it moves one away from the truth, which Jesus said men could learn by continuing in his WORDS (John 8:31-32). The standard by which all men will be judged is not the heart, but the WORDS of Christ (John 12:48).
One line from "the letter" said something akin to "Don't win souls for Me." Has it occurred to you, Mr. Harvey, that if such a philosophy had been followed by Jesus and the apostles, no one would be a Christian today? People all over the world would still be following pagan religions (and following their own hearts).
The ironic thing about this anti-Biblical advice is that whoever wrote this "letter" repeated the phrase, "I am with you always." Do you know, Mr. Harvey, in what context Jesus uttered that statement? Jesus assures the apostles that He will be with them as they evangelize! Consider the entire text.
Then Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen (Matt. 28:18-20).
Whoever wrote this "letter" has revealed major ignorance concerning the Scriptures. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me" (John 14:6). If this statement is true, then Muhammed cannot get the job done; neither can Buddha. Peter declared to the Jews: "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved" (Acts 4:12). Now honestly, can anyone imagine these statements being true and God telling His followers not to "win souls"? Either the Bible is fraudulent, Mr. Harvey, or the letter you read claiming to be from Him was. There are no other alternatives.
A corollary to the evangelism statement is the one involving disputes between professing Christians. There were such statements as: "Religious rivalries are yours, not mine" and "Give up your religious bigotries and sibling rivalries." Certainly, religious division is counter-productive at best and at worst abhorrent. Jesus prayed for the unity of His followers that the world might believe that God sent Him (John 17:20-21).
But to characterize disagreements as "sibling rivalry" is not correct, either. That phrase would describe what was going on in Corinth (1 Cor. 1:11-13), but it does not apply to the current religious situation because not all who profess to be Christians are actually children of God. In fact, what the Bible teaches about the way to become a Christian has been disputed for nearly 2000 years. There was a period of time when these subjects were debated, and many were converted from error to truth (which has nothing to fear from honest study).
The "sibling-rivalry" statement also presumes that truth and doctrine are not important. Yet Solomon placed a high value upon truth (Pr. 23:23), and the young evangelist Timothy was told by Paul:
Take heed to yourself and to the doctrine. Continue in them, for in doing this you will save both yourself and those who hear you (1 Tim. 4:16).
DOCTRINE DOES MATTER! It matters so much that God filled the entire New Testament with it. In Paul's farewell speech to the elders of Ephesus he said:
"Therefore I testify to you this day that I am innocent of the blood of all men. For I have not shunned to declare to you the whole counsel of God" (Acts 20:26-27).
Paul's innocence of their blood is contingent upon the fact that he taught them everything they needed to know which was pertinent to their salvation. The "whole counsel of God" cannot be summed up in pithy little statements such as: "Be about My business of loving one another" and "Play nice with each other." While it is true that loving one another is commanded (John 13:34-35), it is not the case that such summarizes Christian responsibility.
One egregious error of this "letter" is that there is no mention of anything related to one of God's key attributes--holiness. Is it possible that God would address a nation nearly as sodden with sin as Sodom (and with the same sin of homosexuality) and not call us to repentance? Could Nineveh, to whom God sent Jonah, have been any more violent than a nation that allows a million and a half infants in the womb to be killed each year?
Is it possible that God would write a letter to a nation in which a high percentage of couples are living in fornication before they get married (if they get married) and not call them to repentance? And what of the couples who promise to be together until death do them part, but quit trying after two years? Is there not even one tiny warning for Hollywood that their blasphemy, nudity, lasciviousness, and violence will be punished?
Mr. Harvey, this God is so tolerant that He does not at all resemble the One who has destroyed entire nations and empires for their sins. He does not offer a word of condemnation to us for violating any of His Divine laws. Rather He just wants us to live, love, laugh, and be happy. People are trying to do just that without any attempt to be reconciled unto Him, without any pretense of trying to be holy, and they are failing miserably. In the communication that God really wrote, He called us out of the pollutions of the world into true liberty. Genuine happiness does not come from pursuing fleshly pleasures; it is derived from knowing and serving Him.
*Yvonne Pelchat Levene*: God and evolution can’t both be true. I believe in God. In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. God said it and I believe it so that settles it.
*Brant Watson*: okay no nonsense for you then. Scientists simply do not need god’s intervention.
*Tomas Matiev*: Not correct. God basically is the "why", evolution is basically the "how".
*Yvonne Pelchat Levene*: true science agrees with the Bible. The Bible was not written to be a science book. If science doesn’t go along with what is in the Bible it’s not the Bible that is in error. The Bible is the why and how. For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son.
*Rayburne Winsor*: That's right, Yvonne, God and evolution both can't be true. They are diametrically opposite. "Goo-to-you" evolution is development over eons of years, whereas Genesis 1 is special creation (Genesis 1) is supernatural creation by divine fiat (spoke Word of God) ex nihilo (out of nothing);
My Poem about Evolution.
Once upon a time certain chemicals interacted in a primordial goo,
as the result of a lightning strike just suddenly out of the blue.
Which miraculous spontaneous generation of life is supposed to explain the origin of evolution “from the goo, through the zoo, to you.”
No wonder why some scientists call this a curious conundrum,
and it has stirred up quite a sensation.
Since one must explain how nature fabricated the first digital information processor—the original living cell—which wrote its own software and self-reproduced,
though matter, energy and physical laws cannot create genetic information.
cientists now know the internal structure of a cell is far more complex than the infrastructure of a large city.
And because they reject any notion of an outside, super-intelligent Creator-Designer,
their molecules-to-man explanation is really to be pitied.
Now acclaimed atheist Richard Dawkins will grant you this much,
he believes the little green men did it.
He explains that aliens planted the seeds for original life,
and that we all had better get with it.
Well, that’s like saying that because people claim to have seen UFOs, they must be real or something.
The SETI project has tried to find signs of intelligent (extraterrestrial) life for years,
And they have come up with nothing.
Then, you have the fossil record that shows all life-forms appear abruptly and fully formed,
without evidence of evolutionary ancestors (transitional fossils) in the geological strata underneath.
All of which makes the creationists smile,
but the evolutionist squirm in his seat.
There are a few fossils highly disputed even among evolutionary scientists to be intermediate or “in transition.”
Like Archaeopteryx (“dino-bird”) alleged to be intermediate between reptiles and birds,
which bird experts like Paleo-ornithologist Alan Feduccia,
show is nothing more than science fiction.
Evolutionists would have us believe that some reptile running along the ground felt it needed faster locomotion.
So, it evolved feathers and took to the air,
And caused a “flying reptilian monster commotion.”
Yes, evolutionists cling to their “flying monster sensation,” though it is totally absurd.
Because Archaeopteryx possessed large wishbone, elliptical wings, perching feet, fully-formed feathers and unique avian lung design and inner ear--
--all features of a true bird.
Well, to move up the branches on the evolutionary tree is to go from one phyla or kind to a totally different kind.
And, despite the conspicuous absence of billions of transitional fossils in between,
most evolutionists still think their theory sublime.
Just believe in this fairy tale for grown-ups with all your mind,
and there will be no need for the princess to kiss the frog,
the frog will become the prince over eons of time.
No wonder kids today appear oftentimes bewildered and confused,
and set their hearts on things below, and not above.
They don’t know where they’re going because they don’t know where they came from,
nor do they know the God who has revealed Himself in Jesus Christ to be a God of love.
So, what can we do to reach this “lost” generation and be part of the solution.
We can teach our kids early in life that they were created in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27),
not by a process of unplanned, mindless, accidental, naturalistic evolution.
We can let them see by our words and deeds that we have Christ in us, the hope of glory.
So, that we can be channels of God’s grace and love to tell salvation’s story.
That God so loved this ungodly world that He gave His only begotten Son to die for undeserving sinners, such as you and I,
and His invitation to partake of the water of life freely is for all who will receive Him as their Lord and Savior today (John 1:12-13);
it will be too late after we die. God bless.
[=Authors note and context: This is from a blog that calls itself "GAY TRUTH" and claims to be about "Very Good Gay News" - it is in fact an anti-gay propaganda site. It's author(s) are unknown=]
A teacher claiming to be a Christian says Christian school asked her to quit for supporting homosexual fake marriage and being unable to support the school doctrine of faith and employment.
Rachel Colvin claiming to be a Christian who worked for Ballarat Christian College was asked to resign over her public beliefs about gay marriage which is in reality - homosexual fake marriage.
Rachel Colvin in defiance to scripture is taking legal action against Ballarat Christian College, claiming she was forced to resign over her personal support for homosexual fake marriage while at the same time was unwilling to sign the school's code of conduct.
Rachel Colvin was an English teacher at Ballarat Christian College from 2008 until February 2019. Colvin said that in August last year the school informed her she would no longer be offered certain teaching and professional development opportunities, despite her offer to keep silent about her personal and immoral support for fake homosexual marriage. She said she was required to attend counseling sessions with the head of teaching and school chaplain.
Colvin has lodged a discrimination case with the Victorian Civil and Administrative Tribunal under the state’s Equal Opportunity Act 2010. The tribunal is yet to list the case for a directions date or hearing. A homosexual group is providing support to Colvin in pursuing the case.
“I loved my job. I am an extremely hard worker and loyal to a fault, and to have it end the way it did was, at first, professionally humiliating,” Colvin said in a statement. She ultimately humiliated herself claiming to be a Christian who does not follow God's word, make God the creator of sin, chooses to re-interpret all the homosexual passages that clearly state homosexuality is a sin, and then seeks to confuse young people by stating homosexuality is good.
Rachel Colvin claiming to be a Christian demonstrates by her statements which clearly violate the word of God - that she is not a Christian:
“I see it as a God-given opportunity to stand up for what is right, to represent what God is really about: loving others. They were created as they are, in the image of God, and that they are fully loved by God and share equal dignity with all human beings,” she said.Rachel Colvin position on homosexuality is simply wrong
The Bible consistently tells us that homosexual activity is a sin (Genesis 19:1–13; Leviticus 18:22; 20:13; Romans 1:26–27; 1 Corinthians 6:9). Romans 1:26–27 teaches specifically that homosexuality is a result of denying and disobeying God. When people continue in sin and unbelief, God “gives them over” to even more wicked and depraved sin in order to show them the futility and hopelessness of life apart from God. 1 Corinthians 6:9 proclaims that homosexual “offenders” will not inherit the kingdom of God.
God does not create a person with homosexual desires. Rachel Colvin is wrong. The Bible tells us that people become homosexuals because of sin (Romans 1:24–27) and ultimately because of their own choice. A person may be born with a greater susceptibility to homosexuality, just as some people are born with a tendency to violence and other sins. That does not excuse the person’s choosing to sin by giving in to sinful desires. If a person is born with a greater susceptibility to anger/rage, does that make it right for him to give into those desires? Of course not! The same is true with homosexuality.
However, the Bible does not describe homosexuality as a “greater” sin than any other. All sin is offensive to God. Homosexuality is just one of the many things listed in 1 Corinthians 6:9–10 that will keep a person from the kingdom of God. According to the Bible, God’s forgiveness is just as available to a homosexual as it is to an adulterer, idol worshipper, murderer, thief, etc. God also promises the strength for victory over sin, including homosexuality, to all those who will believe in Jesus Christ for their salvation (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Corinthians 5:17; Philippians 4:13).
The school correctly updated its constitution last year following the disputed legalising of fake homosexual marriage in 2017.
“God designed the two genders, male and female, for the purpose of joy and procreation within the sole relationship of marriage. So a marriage can only be between a male and a female, and upon this foundation alone should children be conceived and families formed,” the clause says.
While the Bible strongly condemns homosexuality, it never instructs that homosexuals are to be hated. As Christians, we are to speak out against the perversion of homosexual activity not support it, promote or even claim God loves it.
The Bible is explicit in its condemnation of it, as well as God’s wrath towards those who practice such behavior. As Christians, we are called to clearly and lovingly call sin for what it is. Using the term homophobia to refer to anyone who opposes homosexuality is a distraction, not a valid argument or accurate representation.
A Christian should have only one fear regarding homosexuals, the fear that they will suffer eternally because of their decision to reject the only means of salvation—the Lord Jesus Christ who offers the only hope for escape from a degrading and destructive lifestyle.
Rachel Colvin may have grown up in an evangelical Christian family in the US and may have served as a missionary, but has obviously strayed from scripture and God regardless of the claim to be a believer.
She refused to support that statement of faith and should have voluntarily resigned rather than take her employer to Court. This clearly reflects the fact she is no longer a faithful follower of Christ based on her unbiblical statements.
Sex between two adult males was always considered abhorrent. For instance, St. Paul condemned men’s “indecent acts with other men” (Romans 1:27). He did not differentiate between pedophilia and adult homosexual acts; both were sinful sexual perversions in God’s eyes.
The biblical condemnation and rejection of homosexuality was not a novel idea introduced by St. Paul. Jude, the writer of the New Testament book that bears his name, told his readers that sexual immorality led God to destroy the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah (Jude 7). And it may be that Jesus also had this sin in mind when he referred to God annihilating these two ancient cities (Matthew 11:23).
Christians are said to be homophobic simply because they condemn homosexual behavior as sin. But the fact is that the term homophobic is merely a word used by homosexual activists and supporters in their attempts to deflect a genuine criticism of an immoral and unhealthy practice.
Without question, there are people and organizations who have developed irrational hate of homosexuals and who are prepared to use violent actions to inflict suffering upon homosexuals.
However, the problem is that the homosexual-rights activists have accused anyone who opposes homosexuality of harboring similar hatred. Therefore, Christians who rightly discern that homosexuality is an unnatural sin are equated with violent lunatics who hate for hatred’s sake.
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It blows my mind that CREATION isnt empathized in "churches"!
The facts of science can NEVER contradict the bible. Science is a pursuit of truth, the word of God is truth (John 17:7). Therefore, science can never contradict the bible, only validate it. Science fiction, however, contradicts what God's word teaches and always with the intent to deceive (Ephesians 4:14). There is a difference. We should ALWAYS believe the bible over any man made claim that contradicts what scripture teaches. For example, evolution (with the exception of micro evolution, which is merely a variation of kinds of animal and is clearly observed) IS NOT BIBLICAL. God did NOT use evolution to bring man about. Man was created on the 6th day, formed and shaped by God like an artist sculpting clay according to the accuracy of Hebrew text. God did it in less than 24 hours, probably in the evening. There is absolutely no room for any kind of evolutionary ideology in the bible. Entertaining such ideologies is DANGEROUS!! Earth was created in 6 literal days. Six 24 hour periods including evening and morning exactly like the bible teaches. We must love the truth more than anything else. If not, we are susceptible to error and deception (Revelation 12:9)
Here are some books you can use for study"
"In the Beginning" Walt Brown
"Bones of Contention" Marvin Lubenow
"The Young Earth" John Morris
Depression Leads to Suicide Then Hell
Depression is an absolute killer. It kills a so many people with suicide. So many people take their lives and then they end up in hell. They live unfulfilled lives, they have been brought through many bad situations in their life, and they think that the end has come for them and they no longer wish to be on this earth. This is because of they do not have a purpose to live, but I'm here to show you the purpose of life; and that purpose is when you come and serve in the kingdom of God.
There is nothing more rewarding than serving Jesus Christ and having him say well done my servant and giving you rewards in his kingdom. Friends it is time to stop thinking about the bad things in our lives and all the problems that we have and instead dedicates to Jesus Christ and become his servant so that we will have purpose in our life.
The reason why people are so depressed is that they have no purpose. They feel that the world is a pointless place to be, there is no reason to be here and so many are very depressed and they have no purpose for getting up in the morning. Friend if it is hard for you to get out of bed today, then it is perhaps time that you decided to become a servant of Jesus Christ and let him fix you up and give you special work to do in his kingdom. And what happens is you will be filled with confidence and peace and joy and a purpose in your life and a wonderful joy inside knowing that you're on the way to God's holy Kingdom as a servant of the king.
I used to be a depressed person, but Jesus Christ got me to see my error and I repented of my selfish ways and I decided to dedicate to Christ. And I have never looked back. Once you see the real light and truth and wonderful things about the Lord, you do not want to turn away and follow the old dead lifeless paths of this world. For the world can only bring you trouble grief and despair there is nothing good in this world dear soul. Only following Jesus will bring you the purpose you are looking for.
(=Talking about a gay man Mr. Fred Rogers was friends with=)
Baby Benjamin: Because what people do in private should have nothing to do with how you treat them. Mr Roger's and all true Christians believe homosexual behavior is a sin against God as well as all sex outside of marriage. The point is they have to answer to God after death seizes us all and we are brought to judgement. The job of a Christian is to treat everyone with love, respect, and to tell the truth even when it hurts and others will hurt you for it.
Ayla Sabatini: For everyone arguing in this thread, Mr. Rodgers has stated to a gay friend that he found both men and women attractive. Do with this info as you will while I look up the article I read that from and link it.
Baby Benjamin: Sabatini be "attracted" to anyone is not the sin. It's engaging in homosexual behavior. If I gave you a beautiful painting as a gift and you used it as a door stop, is that offensive? Same is true for male on male and female on female. God gave an awesome gift of sex and some say eh I'll use it the way I want. And it's a sin. Take it up with God on judgement day.
Ayla Sabatini: Those are not the same, me disrespecting a painting you gave me is not the same as me having sex with someone who is the same gender as me. If you're offended by what someone does in private, them you have some serious issues. Here's the article: https://www.mercurynews.com/2019/03/07/fred-rogers-celebrated-as-bisexual-icon-after-his-comments-on-sexual-attraction-resurface/Whether this is true or not, Mr. Rogers is still Mr. Rogers and we should love him just the way he was.
Baby Benjamin: God is offended. It's not personal to any particular believer it's me telling what the bible says "For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful , and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due."Romans 1:26-271
Is Punishment In Hell Eternal ?
There are some things that the Bible teaches that I absolutely love, such as how much God loves us. There are other things that I actually wish were not there, but my study of Scripture has convinced me that, If I am going to be completely honest in how I handle Scripture, I have to believe it teaches that the lost will suffer eternal torment in Hell.
Those who would question the idea of eternal torment in Hell will often say that the words used to describe the duration of the torment do not exactly mean eternal. And while this is true, that the Greek of New Testament times did not have and use a word exactly equivalent to our word eternal, the writers of the New Testament used the words available to them to describe both how long we will live with God and how long the ungodly will suffer in Hell.
Matthew 25:46 says, “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.” The same words translated eternal are used to describe God in Romans 16:26 and the Holy Spirit in Hebrews 9:14. 2 Corinthians 4:17&18 helps us understand what the Greek words translated “eternal” really mean. It says, “For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all. So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.”Mark 9:48b “It is better for you to enter life maimed than with two hands to go into hell, where the fire never goes out.” Jude 13c “For whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.”
Revelation 14:10b&11 “They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” All these passages indicate something that does not end.Perhaps the strongest indication that punishment in Hell is eternal is found in Revelation chapters 19&20. In Revelation 19:20 we read that the beast and the false prophet (both human beings) “were thrown alive into the fiery lake of burning sulfur.”
After that it says in Revelation 20:1-6 that Christ reigns for a thousand years. During those thousand years Satan is locked up in the Abyss but Revelation 20:7 says, “When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison.” After he makes a final attempt to defeat God we read in Revelation 20:10, “And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night forever and ever.” The word “they” includes the beast and the false prophet who have already been there for a thousand years.
On the basis of the accumulated evidence (I.e. scientific, extra-biblical/secular, biblical, etc.) the Genesis Flood of the Bible is surely one of the best confirmed events in history. Expressions emphasizing the universality of the Noah’s Flood and its effects occur more than 30 times in Genesis 6 through 9 (I.e. Genesis 7:21-23; Genesis 6:17; 7: 19-20, 22; etc.). There are almost 200 non-biblical historical accounts of a gigantic flood that nearly destroyed all humanity from tribes and nations all over the world. The most detailed accounts come, as we would expect, from countries nearest to Ararat, where the Ark landed (Genesis 8:4). Other versions turn up in Persia (modern Iraq and Iran), India, Burma, Indonesia, Sarawak, New Guina, Tahiti, Hawaii, China, Japan, Siberia, Australia (among the original inhabitants-the aborigines), and New Zealand (Maoris) , Alaska (Eskimos), North America (Red Indian), South America, Egypt, Sudan, Nigeria, Congo, South Africa, Greece, Iceland, Lithuania, Finland, Lapland, Wales and Ireland. This agrees with Genesis 9:19: “From these [three sons of Noah and their wives] the whole earth was populated.”
Of course, now the Bible has come to all these countries, but the flood “legends” (I.e. The Epic of Gilgamesh) were independent of the Bible, passed down over the centuries in scores of tribal legends. Some of the details are especially interesting; for example, Lxtlilxochitl , the native historian of the Aztecs, says that the world lasted 1716 years before it was destroyed by a flood (This figure is only 60 years different from the 1656 years which the Bible gives by addition of the ages in Genesis 5–taking into consideration the overlapping of each subsequent generation by birth. The Chinese character (symbol) for a large ship is a combination of a figure 8 and the symbol for “mouths” or “persons” (Noah + Shem + Japeth +Ham + their wives = 8). The Hottentots of South America believe they are descended from “Noh” and the Hawaiians report a flood from which only “Nu-u” and his family were saved. Very intriguing!
Over 75% of the earth’s surface is overlaid by up to several miles of layer upon layer of sedimentary rocks, which according to scientific consensus are formed under water. These massive sedimentary deposits contain billions of fossils of all life forms, both complete fossils buried in a certain order (I.e. shell fish with shell fish, animals that can climb above those less mobile, etc.) and disconnected skeletons and broken bones , such as would be expected of violent upheavals of the earth’s crust during a global flood (I.e. volcanism, tidal waves, and earthquakes). There are huge fossil graveyards on every major continent–evidence of rapid and mass death, burial, sedimentation and fossilization of life. Animals are commonly found buried in an attitude of terror with heads arched back, , mouths open, etc. (Cumberland Cavern in Maryland, U.S.). the Karroo formation of Africa contains an estimated 800 billion vertebrate fossils animals! (fossils). The Old Red Sandstone in England covers thousands of square miles and contains millions of fossilized fish (estimated more than 1000 per cubic yard) in contorted and contracted positions with spines sticking out and fins spread to the full, as in fish that die violently in convulsions and agony. One of the most famous fossil graveyards is the Geiseltal lignite deposit in Germany where a great mixture of plants (in some instances, leaves till green) , animals, and even insects from all climatic areas of the world are found buried in one common, mass grave–evidence that they were buried deeply and quickly by water-laid sediments to seal them off from the atmosphere and bacteria that cause decay and decomposition.
Add to this the fact that large scale fossilization is not occurring anywhere in the world today and you have a serious problem for uniformitarian geologists who believe these fossils were buried gradually over millions/billions of years. Uniformitarian explanations of slow and gradual deposition/erosion over millions of years fail to offer a reasonable explanation for such important geologic features and formations as the Tibetan Plateau (thousands of feet thick and over three miles above sea level), the incredible lava Columbia Plateau in northwestern United States ( approximately 200,000 square miles) and the flat, featureless Colorado Plateau . They do explain the rise of mountain chains several times faster than erosion; yet, they contain much “ancient” sedimentary rock. Evolutionists allow enough time to erode the continents many times over; yet they are nearly everywhere covered with sediments–evidence that they were shaped by a lot of water over a little time, not a little water over a lot of time. Witness the tremendous geological work done in minutes or hours by local floods (Tsunami that hit India and Sri Lanka, Mount St. Helen’s explosion, hurricane and flooding in Louisiana, US and typhoon in Philippines, etc.). It is ironic that NASA scientists accept that there have been “catastrophic” floods on Mars that carved out canyons although no liquid water is present today. But they deny that a global flood happened on earth, where there is enough water to cover over 71% of the earth’s surface.
This clearly demonstrates how the biases of mainstream evolutionary scientists affect their interpretation of the evidence according to their evolutionary framework/paradigm. I am willing to bet that if a global flood was not clearly taught in the Bible, they would have no problem with the idea of a global flood. God bless. No evidence for the flood? Obviously we have another Bill Nye here. Did you ever hear of the Mt. St. Helens Explosion that practicallt revelutioned every thing geologists learned in university about uniformitarian geology, especially the rapid work of flooding in canyon making, the rapid and massive deposition of water laid sediments, the transformation of volcanic ash, silica and the bark of tress into the perfect geometry for the formation of peat and coal in days and months, not hundereds of thousands of years? What about mass fossil graves on every major continent of the world containing fossils of animals and fauna from every climatic area of the globe. Or the world’s tallest mountain ranges that contain mile after mile of sedimentary rocks that scientists concede form only under water.
What about the Cambrian explosion and recently the “Avalon Explosion, Mistaken Point, NL? The historic Mistaken Point, Newfoundland has drawn much attention (Queen’s University ) regarding its important fossil assemblage, but could it be that, like the name of the location (“Mistaken Point”), that evolutionary scientists are as mistaken about this “Avalon Explosion” of a variety of new creatures without any evidence of ancestral fossils as they are about the famous Cambrian explosion of a vast variety of fully formed fossils that appear abruptly and suddenly in the Cambrian without any trace of ancestors in the geological layers underneath–hardly evidence for gradual evolution “from the goo, through the zoo, to you” evolution (Thesis of Common Ancestry) that absolutely requires evidence of transitional or intermediate fossils (“missing links”) to be true. As Dr. Jonathan Sarfati (PH.D. in physical chemistry) capably points out in his must-read book Evolution: The Greatest Hoax on Earth: Refuting Dawkins on Evolution, “Surely some of the intermediates (Transitional fossils) leading up to the hard, mineralized animals would have intermediate partial skeletons that could have been fossilized? Indeed, research on Precambrian formations has discovered conditions so favorable for fossilization that many soft-bodied creatures have been found (i.e. Mistaken Point or “Avalon Explosion). Even though many Ediacaran fossils [at Mistaken Point] included soft bodied organisms, none are ancestral to the Cambrian creatures.
So this hardly solves the problem for evolutionists; namely that about which Stephen J. Gould, considered the world’s foremost evolution, said, “The extreme rarity of transitional fossils in the fossil record is the trade secret of paleontology.” Here is what recent scientific research had to say about this “Avalon Explosion: “A comprehensive quantitative analysis of these fossils indicates that the oldest Ediacara assemblage–the Avalon assemblage (575 to 565 Ma)–already encompassed the full range of Ediacara morphospace.” ( Shen, B., Dong, L., Xiao , S. and Kowale wski, M., The Avalon explosion: evolution of Ediacara morphospace, Science 319:81-84, 2008). So this hardly solves the problem for evolution–rather, they have two unrelated explosions or discoveries of new creatures with no evidence of evolutionary ancestry” (the Cambrian Explosion and the “Avalon Explosion). God bless.
(=Regarding Polymorou Christians=)
David Cole: Being faithful to ones covenants is a core to sexual morality. Not matter how much bloggers like to squirm to justify their actions the definitions of immorality does not change.
Kathy Ruth: Where is the immorality ?
David Cole: Do you think it's moral to break ones covenants ?
DL Weiss: Yes David Cole, it is immoral to break ones promises, covenants, not keeping promises, be dishonest, be deceptive, etc. All that is immoral. But may I ask, di you read the article about Polymory ? Because no where in polymory is any of that allowed, or considered "okay" behaviour. Honesty, forthrightness, candidness, love -- these are the attributes to polymory, not what you have said. Either you do not understand the matter (which is still parr for the course, mostly), or you are deliberately misrepresenting polymory for your own reasons.
David Cole: Having more than one covenant partner is not covenant keeping.
What does the Bible say about polyamory?
The word “polyamory” is a compound of two words: poly, which is Greek for “many,” and amor, which is Latin for “love.” It refers to a relationship in which a person has multiple sexual partners (not necessarily at the same time, i.e., threesomes). A polyamorous relationship is supposedly distinguished from “swinging” by the idea that polyamory involves love while swinging is simply recreational/casual sex.
Polyamory has long been common in dating relationships. Recently, the idea has expanded into “open marriages.” An open marriage is a marriage in which one or both spouses are allowed to have extra-marital affairs. After all, if you truly love someone, shouldn’t you allow him/her to explore, to follow the desires of his/her heart?
In reality, polyamory is poly-lust-ory. There is nothing amor about it. Polyamory is absolutely incompatible with what the Bible says about marital love. Marital love is pure, faithful, committed, and yes, jealous. Just as God is jealous for the worship that only He is worthy of (Exodus 20:5), so should spouses be jealous of the love that should only be given to them. Advocates of polyamory warn against the tendency towards jealousy. Imagine that!
It does not matter if a spouse gives permission or even participates in the polyamorous relationships. We do not get to redefine what the Bible says is sin. The Bible clearly and consistently declares that sex outside of marriage is immoral (Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3). It is adultery, plain and simple (Exodus 20:14).
There are scientific studies claiming that polyamory is genetic. Really?! You think?! “The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery” (Galatians 5:19). Of course it is genetic! Sin is hard-wired into our genetic code. We are infected with a desire for all things ungodly and immoral. But that doesn’t mean we should indulge those desires.
It should not surprise us that polyamory is increasingly being accepted in our society. It should not even surprise us that some view polyamory as compatible with marriage. Our society rejects God and His Word, and as a result, there is no authoritative standard for what marriage is. Whether it is gay marriage, polygamy, or polyamory—these are logical results of rejecting the biblical definition of marriage.
What’s next? Pedophilia? Acceptance of incest within a family? Bestiality? Some may scoff and claim those perversions will never be accepted, but I hear the same claims coming out of groups that advocate those very behaviors. “We love each other.” “It is all consensual.” “Who are you to question who and how I love?”
Increasingly, a man or woman who is committed solely to a spouse of the opposite gender is considered an alternative lifestyle. But, you know what? I’ll take it. It is an alternative to immorality and perversion. It is an alternative to fake love and disrupted intimacy. It is an alternative to the lies and deception with which the god of this world seeks to hide the truth.
"...the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ" (2 Corinthians 4:4).
I once posted a long comment on a similar article by Randy Alcorn entitled: Do you believe God created the universe in six literal (24 hour) days? I certainly do. I really am not concerned with how many (is it 38%) “evangelical Christians are compromising the truth of God’s Word regarding the sex literal (24-hour) days of creation in Genesis by bowing down to scientific opinion (“from the goo, through the zoo, to you” evolution) that accommodates millions of years to the days of Genesis rather than the clear,straightforward , literal meaning of six literal (24-hour) days in Genesis. There is no warrant biblically, scientifically or linguistically for doing so (from the perspective of the ancient Hebrew language). I have posted many long comments why I oppose theistic evolution (accommodating long ages to the literal days of Genesis) as not biblical. Jesus Christ himself accepted the Genesis account of creation (Matthew 19:4), including the supernatural creation of Adam and Eve, as well as the biblical account of Noah’s Flood (which would radically alter everything modern uniformitarian geologists have learned in Geology) as historical fact (Matthew 19:: 4, Matthew 24:37-39). We should not be surprised by this when we remember that, though many leading scientists (i.e. “scriptural geologists”) resisted the “old earth” ideas of James Hutton and Charles Lyell (Uniformitarianism) and defended scripture as both true and scientific, Regrettably, it was Christians, not evolutionary scientists, who first lead the charge against scripture, beginning in the 1800s when theologians (theistic evolutionists) readily adopted the “old earth” ideas, of Lyell (uniformitarianism) instead of Noah’s Flood. The Bible believing scientists of the day were in a difficult position of trying to defend scripture when even theologians (who compromised the literal history of Genesis) were against them. The situation remains even worse today, despite recent scientific discoveries about the universe, atom, the internal structure and incredible complexity of cells, DNA, the natural world, etc. Believing scientists, though understandably still in a minority, are leaving Darwinian Evolution, recognizing that strictly natural processes, operating at random on inorganic chemicals, could never have produced complex living cells. Unfortunately, though they have grown weary of arguing how random mutations (essentially harmful to a living organism) in a highly complex genetic code provide improvements to it (no functional genetic information-increasing changes on which “goo to you” evolution depends). So, what do they do? They re-adopt Creation, but still hold on to the old earth and formulate a local Flood account to fit modern uniformitarian geology. How much better it would (and I believe employ better science) to come all the way back to a biblical worldview (instead of just a halfway or middle position between biblical creation and natural evolution (Theistic evolution).. See other comment below:
One could write a book on why it is imperative that Bible-believing Christians not compromise the historical truth of Genesis 1 ( i.e. Day-Age theory, Gap theory, Framework Hypothesis theory) by adding or accommodating evolution to the Genesis account. First, theistic evolution, which is just evolutionary development with God added on, is diametrically opposed to supernatural, ex nihilo (out of nothing), , fiat, (divinely spoken Word\) creation, which even Darwin, who was also a divinity student, rejected: In a letter he wrote to Charles Lyell in 1861, he stated: “The view that each variation has been providentially arranged seems to me to make Natural Selection entirely superfluous, and indeed takes the whole case of the new species out of the range of science” . Not only was theistic evolution rejected by Darwin, but also was never seriously considered by the other founding fathers of evolution. The evolutionary claim of an old earth (4.5 billion years old) denies the veracity of the first 11 chapters of Genesis regarding the order of creation (contrary to evolution, the Bible says birds were created on Day 5 at the same time as the sea creatures –before dinosaurs and other land animals; the Bible says the work of shaping the earth was finished on Day 3 before the moon was made on the 4th day into earth’s creation, not smashed from the earth in a cataclysmic collision; etc.), the distinctness of created kinds (10 times in Genesis 1), the absence of death and bloodshed before the Fall (see Genesis 3; Romans 5:12), the instantaneous creation of Adam and Eve and all of creation functionally mature (which explains the appearance of age), the “very good” status of the creation at the end of the creation week (Genesis 1:31), the great longevities of the patriarchs, and the global nature of the Flood, as attested by over 200 Flood traditions by peoples all around the world, over 30 scriptural references (indicating universality of Great Flood), and layers of water-deposited sedimentary rocks containing separate and distinct and intact kinds of fossilized plants, birds, animals, etc. (not transitional or intermediate fossil) all over the earth.
Every major doctrine of Christianity stands or falls upon the historical foundation laid in the first 11 chapters of Genesis. Obviously, if death were here eons before Adam sinned (Genesis 3), as evolution requires, then creation had already been spoiled and death is not the penalty for sin, as scripture plainly teaches (Genesis 2:16; Romans 5:12). This, in turn, means that Christ’s death and resurrection were ineffective and meaningless, and the biblical teaching (Romans 8:18-23; Rev. 21) of the final restoration (Paradise Regained) of this fallen world to its original state before the Fall (only much more magnificent and glorious)–no sin, no death. no curse–is sheer nonsense. Dr. James Barr, formerly Oriel Professor of the Interpretation of Holy Scripture at Oxford University and renown as one of the world’s leading Old Testament Hebrew scholars , wrote, “So far as I know, there is no professor of Hebrew or Old Testament at any world class university who does not believe that that the writer (s) of Genesis 1-11 intended to convey to their readers the ideas that creation took place in a series of six days which were the same as the days of 24 hours we now experience.” The word “day” (Hebrew yom) associated with a numeral (i.e. “first day” “second day,” “third day” in Genesis 1 (and that used 359 times in the Old Testament outside of Genesis 1 ) always means a literal 24-hour day.
To make sure that no one missed the obvious meaning of a literal 24-hour day, the writer (s) of Genesis 1 under inspiration of the Holy Spirit further qualifies “first day, ” “second day” etc. with “evening and morning”–“and the evening (that part of the day associated with darkness) and morning (that part of the day associated with light) were the first day” (“second day, “third day” etc.). But many who are easily embarrassed (yes, that includes genuine Christians and theistic evolutionists like Dr. John Lennox, astronomers like Hugh Ross and others) by the opinions of secular scientists concerning the unproven assumptions of radiometric dating (which has been off by hundreds of thousands/millions of years, even on rocks of known age) will claim that Genesis 1 and other creation passages are myths, parables, poetry, dramas, allegories or analogies–the only exceptions to the perspicuity of scripture and cardinal rule that “context defines the meaning of a word”—anything, in order to escape the obvious fact that they are written, and read as, a straightforward historical narrative.
Even such astounding scholars as Dr. E. J. Young of Westminister Seminary in Philadelphia, an authority of massive erudition in Hebrew and cognate languages holds that “Genesis is not poetry. There are poetical accounts of creation in the Bible–Psalm 104, and certain chapters in Job, and they differ completely from the first chapter of Genesis. Hebrew poetry had certain characteristics, and they are not found in the first chapter of Genesis.” He further states: “The man who says I believe that Genesis purports to be an historical account, but I don’t believe that account” is a far better interpreter of the Bible than the man who says, “I believe that Genesis is profoundly true, but it is poetry”. The inspired, infallible Word of God trumps the opinion (actually “faith”) of fallible scientists, my friend. Don’t undermine or sell out the firm foundation (Genesis 1-11) on which your Christian faith is based, my friend, for the favor and praise of men. God will reward you in due time for your faithfulness to His inspired, infallible Word. God bless.
I See young people, they are more interested in having chat times with all their young friends than they are to actually following Jesus. They are too busy being silly with each other than they are to be following Jesus. They are not serious. They are just following the world. They love the world and all the wonderful sins of youth which are passing anyway and fading away very quickly. Dear friends, we cannot be like this. We have to have ourselves absolutely and completely separate all the time from those silly paths. Young people have to be separate. No time to just hang around with your friends and be stupid together. It is time to separate ourselves to the Lord and become his follower where we actually do walk the narrow way like the disciples did.
The foolishness of youth isn't worth missing out on the eternal kingdom of God. We can put aside the foolishness of youth so we can enter the kingdom. We cannot enter the kingdom while we are just laughing at the jokes the world laughs at. While watching the same TV the world loves. While we are following the sports the world chases after. One champion rises, another one falls. One is winning, another one is losing, it doesn't matter, it's world. Why do we care about those things? We are here for the kingdom of God not for these worldly things. Many Christians adamantly come against me if I say these things. It is because their hearts are dark and they're loving the world, and they don't want to turn away Sent from my iPhone
I can do it, so can you. While people just follow their foolish youthful ways, there is no way they're going to be able to enter the Kingdom of Heaven. What's the point of just having all your cars, and having all your fun, and talking on all your mobile phones, and having good times with all your friends everywhere, when you just simply don't follow Jesus? This world is completely deceptive. If you live in Babylon like the big Babylon cities of this world, like New York, or any of these big cities, you're going to be amongst all this rife, foolish, worldly paths like Lot was. It will be very hard for you to enter the kingdom if you are following them. So we got to be separate.
We got to be separate from all this whole system of sports and attainment, parties, and worldly chasing, and being your 'best person now.' Thrill seekers say to live life to the fullest. Some die trying. Some of them say to live life to the fullest or die trying. Some do die trying and somebody says at least they died doing something they love doing. Fool! They ended up in hell. In hell they are crying out, “Please warn my family that living a foolish life like that ends in hell!” Like the rich man did, and Abraham answered the rich man saying, “Son, they have the prophets in the Bible to listen to,” Moses and Elijah, about hell and Jesus. “If they can't listen to them, they won't even listen to anybody sent back from the dead.”That is what Abraham was saying. And the rich man in hell was crying out in torment saying, “Please, please, please warn my people.” They didn't know that a thrill-seeking life just ended in hell so suddenly. So on earth the people are saying, “He died doing something he loved doing,” and all are happy about it because they are so deceived. And then under the earth in hell that very same person is crying out in torment now, his chances are over. No more salvation for him. He can't be saved, finished. Done. His foolish life ended in smoke.
You know, there is a verse in the Bible that says that the folly of the fool is destruction. Fools folly is destruction. You live a life of foolishness with the foolish youth of this generation, your folly will be destruction. That's what it comes down to. You go join them, you will join them in hell too. Who are we going to join?Are we going to join them and end up in the same fire that they are headed to? Or are we going to walk the narrow way and be separate away from the ways of this generation! Christians are so busy being on the broad path and being blinded by this world and by satan, that when they hear these truths they cannot accept it.
They say, “I can watch my baseball, I can watch the footy, I can go and join in on soccer there is not sin in that.” But that's because they're following the Broad way and everybody's on the Broadway to destruction.
Jesus said, “Broad is the way that leads to destruction and many are those who go by that way, and narrow is the way that leads to life and few go that way.” It is because few will decide to do the words of Jesus. And what did he say? He said, “Deny yourself, pick up your cross, and follow me.”Jesus even said if anybody loves his life on this earth he will lose it, but if anybody loses his life for my sake he will find it. Do you hate your life for the sake of the kingdom? or do you love your life?What is it with you today?
Most Christians love their life too much. They love their footy. They love their soccer. They love their baseball and love the Super Bowl. They love all these sports.They want to turn the TV on and want to love all the ungodliness that this generation talks about and say it is not sin. Well, guess what dear friend, it is sin, because it's on the broad path of destruction. And you also, if you follow them, are on the tide with the world to hell directly, Christian or not. And that's where they want to believe all the deceived preachers who say, “It is all find, you are saved brother, because you believe in Jesus.” And then they end up in hell just like the rich man.And who's going to be laughing then? the devil or you? The devil will laugh at you. That is why we have to be completely separate and not be deceived. Instead of mocking the preacher who tells you to leave your sports and all your ways of the world, you should be accepting what he says and believing that these words Jesus said are true: “If you love your life you'll lose it, but if you hate your life for my sake you'll find it.” They are true.
Just supposing those other words are true as well where Jesus said,“If you love your life on this earth you will lose it, but if you hate your life for my sake you will gain it.” Just supposing Jesus is speaking the truth when he says in Matthew: “If anybody wants to follow me, he must pick up his cross, deny himself and follow me.”
Just supposing that's true! Just supposing the words of Jesus are true where he says: “The person who hears my words and doesn't do them is likened unto the man who built his house on the sand, and the winds come and the flood comes and the destruction of that house is great.”Just supposing the words of Jesus are true where he says, “The man who does my words when he hears them, he does put them into practice, he shall be the one who built his house on the rock and his house shall not be destroyed.”
TGC recently published a fascinating interview with Becket Cook, a former Hollywood set designer in the fashion industry who was living an openly gay life. Cook left all that behind when he met Jesus — or, rather, Jesus met him — and now he is in Christian ministry as a recent graduate of Talbot School of Theology at Biola University. This summer he published the story of his conversion, A Change of Affection: A Gay Man’s Incredible Story of Redemption.
As with every Christian (cf. Rom 6:11; Gal 2:20; 1 Cor 6:9–11; 2 Cor 5:17), the issue of identity stands at the center of Cook’s testimony. When asked in the TGC interview about “gay Christianity” and whether he thought it was possible to reconcile following Jesus and having a “gay identity,” Cook answered emphatically:
"They are irreconcilable. It’s strange to me to see these attempts. I had such a clean break from it, and it was entirely God’s grace upon me to see that it was necessary. Would you call yourself a greedy Christian? Would you call yourself a tax-collector Christian? It seems strange to identify yourself with sin. It’s a square circle. Defining yourself as a “gay Christian,” even if you are celibate and not active in a homosexual relationship, is wildly misleading. And it’s almost like you’re stewing in your old sin, hanging onto your old self in a weird way. It’s not helpful to have that moniker over you and to continually identify as such. Why would you identify with your old self that has been crucified with Christ? So I flee from that term as far as I can. It’s not who I am at all. If people ask me how I identify, I’m just like, “I don’t identify by my sexuality. I’m a follower of Christ who has a lot of struggles, including same-sex attraction.”
These attempts at reconciling gay identity and following Jesus which Cook refers to are being made by those who call themselves Side B “gay Christians.” While they confess the incompatibility of homosexual sexual desire and so-called “gay marriage” with historic, orthodox Christianity, they still identity as “gay.”
One of the reasons Side B “gay Christians” give as to why they continue to identify as “gay” or as “gay Christians” is because the word “gay” uniquely describes their experiences in this world, their particular struggles with temptation and sin, as well as their outlook on the world that grows out of these realities. Since these experiences are unique in the lives of same-sex attracted Christians, how else can they relate their testimony of God’s grace in their lives? They believe the Bible is true and right when it forbids same-sex sexual relationships. But shouldn’t they identity in a way that is true to their particular struggles?
I can sympathize with this line of reasoning, and I know how powerful it can be when believers share the work God has done and continues to do in their lives, particularly where they have struggled, where they continue to struggle, and how God’s grace is sustaining them even in the midst of these struggles.
In other words, I can imagine a possible world where the words “gay” and “Christian” may find themselves in proximity to one another in a believer’s testimony. But when such a testimony is shared, I think something that is not always clear among Side B “gay Christians” needs to be made crystal clear, as Cook does above. The modifier “gay,” is it describing the old man or the new man?
Paul teaches in a number of places that there are two “I’s” or “selves” in the believer this side of glory. For instance, in Ephesians 4:17–24 Paul writes about the “old self” and the “new self”:
17 Now this I say and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds. 18 They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart. 19 They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity. 20 But that is not the way you learned Christ!— 21 assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus, 22 to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, 23 and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, 24 and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.
While those who do not know God have hard hearts that are marked by sensuality, greed, and every kind of impurity, this is the opposite of what marks those who are in Christ.
But notice what Paul does in verse 22 above. He says that the old self of the believer must be associated in the mind and life of the Christian with their former manner of life that had more to do with the ungodly Gentiles than Christ. In place of the old self, the new self must be actively put on, actively associated with and owned as an identity that is, as Paul says, “created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.”
In other words, hostility toward the old self and hospitality toward the new self should characterize the Christian. Why? Because the old self is no longer the true self, the authentic self. The old self has been crucified with Christ (Rom 6:6) and therefore we are called to mortify it and its desires (Col 3:5–10). The new self is who we are.
Which brings us to the concern for how Side B uses “gay Christian.” When they use and embrace this identity, what — or who — do they map the modifier “gay” onto? For this person, is the old self “gay,” or the new self “gay”? Unless this question is answered unequivocally with the former, I believe Side B “gay Christianity” will continue to be suspect and inconsistent not only with the teaching about mortification of the old self and sin in the New Testament, but also with God’s purposes in creation and redemption. If Side B uses “gay” to describe an aspect of the new self in Christ, as many in the movement have insinuated, then we are no longer dealing with how the orthodox have everywhere and always spoken about temptation and indwelling sin.
I am thankful for Becket Cook’s clarity on Christian identity. It is a faithful application of Scripture to who we are in Christ as redeemed sinners. I hope many more will follow his lead.
Yeshua Reigns: Amen!!!!! Me too. I came out to my elder sis in 2016 and let me tell you, the moment i blurted out that " i am gay" with tears rushing down my cheeks i knew what i was saying was not from God. It was as if, the enemy was isolating me with this wrong mindset for 25 years of my life and that's when i understood that his strategy is this! He isolates people and makes them believe that nobody would understand them and that they're born this way and they can't help it; when the truth is that the bible testifies that NOTHING IS TOO HARD FOR THE LORD. My sis began praying for me since that day on and she did not rebuke me. A lot of Christians out there need to know that homosexuality will not go away when you rebuke the gay away, stand in the gap and pray for them. I have come a long way since then and i too wanna testify that yes! There's a lot of isolation in the lgbt community or for that matter in any kind of sexual immorality. Don't hide it, discuss it and have someone to pray with you for this. Homosexuality is not from God and even if science says that you're born with it...know that the same God who created you can create a clean heart in you that pursues His heart above and more than everything else.
Tobi Dean: I too was gay and wish I could be gay and happy but Jesus continued to make himself known...I would wake up crying knowing very well what I was living in was sin...I knew God's word and even though I changed I knew God's word never changes...I couldn't sleep I would continue to tell my girlfriend we were going down for this....The moment I realized what I was saying it terrified me to think I was settling for damnation ....did that stop me....no I chose flesh over Jesus....that was up until 5 years ago. I have returned to my true love...my first love Jesus I am out of the gay and in with The way of Jesus. I take it one day at a time we are not promised tomorrow. I have no interest in women or the gay scene....that is one less hurdle and drama self inflicted drama I don't need...I hear you sister and you are not alone....much love and prayers Brisbane,Australia
(=Video Title: Lesbian couple wanted to get married but then God intervened!=)
Kathy and Valerie had been living in a same-sex Lesbian relationship since 2008. A few months ago they wanted to get married but then God spoke to them clearly. This is an amazing story of how the Holy Spirit is working in people’s lives today and that if we seek the Lord He is there. The gospel is the power of salvation!
Toon Trooper: what does Christianity represent to you? Really what does it mean to be Christian? To have love in your heart? To be accepting of those who may seem strange or different? It certainly isn't either of those
Baby Benjamin: It means to be someone who believes Jesus is the Messiah, the only way to be saved. Someone who calls upon His name and believes that He is who He says He is and will do what He says He will do. A person who truly believes this will over time become more and more like Him.They will demonstrate love (sacrifice), joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, long suffering, and self control. They will manifest this on a regular basis. They will fail occasionally from being in the flesh at times. It overall will have consistency in these things thanks to the Holy Spirit (God) living inside of them.
Toon Trooper: so why do you believe being gay is a sin if you're preaching about love, kindness, and peace? What, in your mind, is wrong with loving someone of the same sex?
Baby Benjamin: Hey, thanks for asking that question in such a genuine way. I can tell your truly wondering.The answer is only given in the same context as all sin. The truth is this. All humans have chosen darkness (they have all lied, stolen things, fantasize about lust, had horrible thoughts of hatred, murder, dishonored our parents, and used Gods name as a curse word.) You and I and everyone has done this. Not because we are human but because we wanted to, we all literally chosen darkness and have a fake illusion of righteousness (we think we are good, but we are not) again we all have told countless lies etc. etc. So everyone hates God once given the choice. God is so Holy that if anyone full of sin approaches Him they will die.
God therefore having a great love for humans, became one Himself (Jesus) and He took the death penalty off of us by dieing on the cross. He had no sins of His own so the grave could not hold Him. He rose from the dead and promises all who believe in Him they too will rise from the dead and live forever and through Him can approach the throne of God. So even if homosexuality was not a sin all will still perish and die and be lost forever.So homosexuality is just another manifestation of hatred for God and His ways. Try to wrap around that, if all people who engage in sex with the same sex suddenly woke up to a world where the bible did not call it a sin, it still wouldn't address the lies, theft, blasphemy, hatred, etc. People hate God in the natural state (once given the choice to obey Him)
This is a heart issue. God said if you just come to Jesus and ask Him to forgive you for hating His ways and His righteousness, He will forgive you or anyone and instantly send the Holy Spirit to be inside of that person. The Holy Spirit will then teach you about God and keep you from having a heart that hates Him. You may be tempted and do things you regret but over the rest of your life, you will be a new creature and will be saved. So the question of homosexuality being a sin is irrelevant, however it's the same as all sin. People in their natural state want to decide what is good and bad and reject God for telling them otherwise, again points back to the heart.
At the heart you want to dedicate and right your own book of morality, perfectly tailored to your own desires just like the rest of us. Humble yourself and eternal life is yours.
Toon Trooper: how is it a form of hate? Because God told people not to do it? Why? What is wrong with it? We all know why murder, stealing, lying, etc. is wrong. Those things hurt people or can lead to people being hurt. Homosexuality hurts no one.
Baby Benjamin: The answer as to exactly why is not known by me. I can only speculate and that's not guaranteed to be true if I give you my speculated answer. Remeber the issue is the same as all sin. Some societies think murder is ok (Nazi, Stalin, Gangus Khan) some think raoe is ok (Many nations including the U.S. [During slavery]) the point is the same. You are crafting your own form of right and wrong and cling to it tightly. The same is true for all of us. Your claim all know "cyz" is wrong is not true obviously by history. Right and wrong is subjective unless a supreme (ultimate) God says it is. And this truth makes all of us in our natural state hate God. We just cant stand He gets to decide what is right and wrong. So much so we demand answers. We feel in our natural state entitled to know why so we can judge the rule, because again we feel we are our own right and wrong moderators. This is the crux and the great dilemma and why we are all doomed without Jesus. The truth is God is good and know one else, and that statement infuriates the natural mind. And since He alone is good only he can set our paths straight.