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Tim Pool & Lily Tang Williams #conspiracy #wingnut

arrasas #conspiracy #psycho #racist #wingnut

Serbian atrocities in Croatia, Bosnia and Kosovo are well documented and literally millions of people are alive and have seen or been part of those events indirectly.

Bla bla bla...

The above is a short video claiming that the famous photograph of an emaciated man in the (there unnamed) Trnopolje concentration camp was fake, in the sense that the man was like that due to a birth defect rather than malnourishment in the camp itself, and that the camp was actually just a shelter that the Bosnian Serb forces created to care for Bosniak (Muslim) refugees.
Well, that’s a nope. Here’s a short Wiki bit on it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trnopolje_camp#Aftermath
And a bit more in a Time article if you’re interested: https://time.com/5034826/fikret-alic-time-cover-bosnia/

(personal note: but of course, who would defend the Milošević regime and their even more brutal subsidiary in Bosnia if not the tankie Marxists? In a similar manner as Holocaust denier pundits often do with their pet topic, no less)

It is true that Trnopolje was in a way a relief for the prisoners, though… but that’s only because many of them had previously been in the extremely brutal Omarska and Keraterm camps. See, the beatings, torture, rape, famine etc. still happened in Trnopolje, it’s just that they were notably less common.

SlavicPrideacount106 & Shtjegen #dunning-kruger #racist #wingnut

Anonymous Quora poster #ableist

Oh,the solution is simple, my friend. Vaccinate your son, that way he’ll be safe from catching the autism. >:3

Linda Harvey #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy #transphobia #homophobia #racist #sexist

That’s a fascinating level of projection. So many of these accusations actually do hold true when it comes to people like Linda Harvey, some even without changing a word.

xXRonPaul_42020Xx #transphobia #conspiracy

Awakened-UK #crackpot #ufo #racist #conspiracy

EAT TOMATO PASTE #ableist #racist #sexist #homophobia #transphobia

That is one exquisitely persuasive argument, I’m so convinced!

Ah, lovely. KiwiFarmer doing his best to remind me why they’re leading candidates for people whom I’d first shove to the Old Ones to be devoured.

CTON #dunning-kruger #racist #wingnut

@JeanP #95493

Depends on who the society is. A homogenous white population will have low crime, high trust and what not. A majority black/mestizo/arab/brown population--be they armed or not--will have violence, rapes, sexual crimes, dysfunction, low trust, etc

Never saw Gangs of New York?

Oh, and there’s so much more there. Where to even begin? How about… Northern Ireland up until recently? All whites, surely they must have been, err, peaceful and trusting of each other?
Ok ok, maybe that’s just one exception. Say, surely Russia is a lovely place of societal harmony and negligible crime? Especially back in the 90s… oops. Though I guess you’d just blame that on the minorities (wrongly), so have one Ukraine instead as an example. Similar mess, no racial minorities.
Oh, I know! The Balkans! We’re all white here, we get along famously! Why, just in the 90s, we had our very best parties where we, um, sang kumbaya, and, err… didn’t kill and rape and rob the everliving fuck out of each other, even neighbors in the same towns…

But wait, surely at least the Nazis, those very champions of white superiority, instituded an enlightened rule where every white lived together in peace and harmony?
…right?
Ok, except the Poles, I guess. And the Ukrainians. And the Russians. And the… Slavs in general, who were all, err, kinda slated for eventual extermination. Sometimes even not so eventual, but very immediate. And, of course, any white Ashkenazi Jews or people who just had some Jewish ancestry were straight up eliminated as soon as possible, no ifs, no buts.

Yeah. Whites sure do always get along fabulously. /s

Christina Hoff Sommers #crackpot #elitist #quack #sexist #wingnut

Makedon-Slav83939 & Shpatari #conspiracy #psycho #racist #wingnut

Christina Hoff Sommers #crackpot #elitist #quack #sexist #wingnut

@Thraxas #94689

TBH you very much would notice if engineers stopped working for a year. Electricity and construction are pretty important for our daily lives, don’t you think?

Greg Abbott et al. #crackpot #fundie #wingnut

Archangel Michael via Sharon Stewart #crackpot #magick #conspiracy #ufo

These are entities I have battled as well, with this sword on my hip. It was a hard battle, but was won.

ProxyMusic #conspiracy #racist #transphobia

@Malingspann #93099

No, there isn’t. Until now there didn’t seem to be a need for it, since we didn’t have quotes targeting intersex people.

General question: Do you see a need to introduce an #interphobia tag, or is it ok to have #transphobia cover it? In the latter case, we can amend the tag’s description to note that it includes interphobia.

ixora & sapphicafemme #transphobia

Even if this supposed difference in desires to have a transplant exists to some statistically significant extent (I’ll leave it to our informed transfolk here to confirm or deny that), I suspect it could have a simple explanation.

Women’s genitalia are mostly internal.
Men’s genitalia are mostly external.

We tend not to think much of accepting the transplants of internal organs (think heart, liver etc.) from the bodies of other people. After all, these are organs we don’t see on a daily basis — we know they’re there, but there’s a bit of a distance there in that it’s a somewhat abstract knowledge.

Men’s genitals, on the other hand, are something that (cis) men see and interact with (not in that way… mostly) on a daily basis. This might make their genitals more… personalized, if that makes sense? Thus trans men might not be quite as eager to have genitals that used to belong to someone else, as you’d kind of be very aware of that fact every time you go to the toilet (or have sex, or masturbate).

Trans women might be a bit more fortunate there in this hypothetical scenario, as they wouldn’t have nearly as much of a direct visual and tactile link with their uterus at least.

Am I making any sense?

Also, when it comes to trans women, they might value being able to give birth more than trans men would value having, say, functioning testicles.
Reproductively speaking, whereas for men it’s a difference between, say, your partner being impregnated by you or by a sperm donor, for trans women it would be the difference between adopting or seeing a partner going through pregnancy… and being pregnant yourself, with the whole physical and emotional experience that entails. And that seems like quite a big difference.

In short, the OPs’ comparison is flawed, because the male and female reproductive experiences are vastly different. Thus, it’s sort of an ‘apples and oranges’ scenario.

Petros #pratt #psycho #racist #wingnut

Various Commenters #conspiracy #racist #wingnut

Makedon-Slav1488 #dunning-kruger #racist #sexist #wingnut

Petros #pratt #psycho #racist #wingnut

@JeanP #91744

I’m also reminded of Gilad Atzmon, a particularly odd antisemitic Israel-born Jew.

@Percy_Jelley

The thing is that African American identity has been under nonstop assault ever since they arrived in the US - something like 400+ years of racist propaganda and practice. It wouldn’t be strange if more than a few of them internalized that.

Oh, they most certainly did.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination_based_on_skin_color#Beauty
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_is_Beautiful

tismcel & thickneckedslayer #psycho #racist #sexist

@Yutolia #91672, @Timjer

lookism.net has been added to the restricted sites list. That means that the mods will now have to approve each submission from there. We’ll try to keep the influx limited.
Indeed, the constant flood of incel and TERF submissions is something that we’ve kept discussing lately, as something that’s too much for us too and that needs to be curtailed somewhat (as Timjer noted). We partially did it already, and will keep at it. :)

Dr. C. Matthew McMahon #fundie

@Sadlycooper #91405

If you want us mods to let you through, try harder. Seriously, the sort of trolling you did there is so weak that you’re an embarrassment to the troll race. And that’s no fun at all :(
Try to at least be mediocre, k?

Nona_Biba & jelliknight #transphobia

@Nona_Biba

IMO if they REALLY believed their own bullshit, they wouldn't need to insist on blocking terfs and "terfs DNI" and things like shinigami eyes. I think most of them deep down know that we're right, and that's why they don't want to hear from us.

Mm yes, it sure couldn’t be that they don’t want to hear from you because you are extremely hostile to them, proudly so, and do your best to make their lives a living hell. Nah, must be because they just can’t hear THE TROOF.

Btw. had to check what DNI and “shinigami eyes” are. 'TERFs DNI' is an acronym for “(I) do not interact (with TERFs)”, while ‘shinigami eyes’ refers to this: https://shinigami-eyes.github.io/

I know that the earth is round. Do I care enough to block flat earthers from my social media? No, because I am confident I am right. Those loons won't be able to convince me no matter what they say.

Well, flat earthers don’t usually consider it their holy duty to expunge every member of a certain marginalized group from society, and take away their rights to healthcare and self-determination. It’s not about avoiding “debate”. It’s about avoiding extreme hostility from a group of vile crusaders hell-bent on mandating trans people out of existence, up to and including driving transfolk to suicide if that’s what it takes.

Flat-earthers don’t do anything even close to that.

A trans person's identity is fragile because it's built on lies. And they know it's a lie, so they don't want to hear from us lest we remind them that they estranged their family and friends and possibly altered their body for a lie. Like they may have ruined their lives so they could live a lie. I don't think I'd want to be reminded of reality if I were in their shoes either.

Right… they undertake a transition that has known health costs, financial costs and above all massive social costs in the form of rejection as well as harassment from people like you — and all of that for something they know is a lie?
Where’s the logic in that?
If they knew they’d be "living a lie", they wouldn’t want to transition even if it didn’t invite huge social hostility. Why would they?
Indeed, if anything, they transition in order to stop living a lie.

PS- where are the block lists for racists and white nationalists? Where are the block lists for incels and misogynists? trans people are far from the most oppressed people in the world, why are they the only ones who care enough to censor people who disagree with them from the internet?

Um, hun, I have such a list installed on this very browser, though in my case it merely highlights rather than blocks users of known subreddits where such groups gather.
The block lists you ask about do exist. How about you look them up, rather than engage in ignorant whataboutism?

@jelliknight

They know 100% that they are not any kind of woman. Its wilful suspension of disbelief, like when people watch professional wrestling. Everyone knows that everyones pretending but saying so ruins the fun.

Trans women go through all the various kinds of costs and pain associated with transition… in order to… have fun?
I just…
Go choke on a cyanide pill, TERF.

Artyom_of_Moscow #transphobia

88 forever & Anonymous Posters #racist #sexist #wingnut

@HS #89313

Thanks, mate. Btw. another thing is that we tend to submit things that at least seem to be honest and refer to reality (even if just in the fevered mind of the fundie). It seems pretty clear this here is just fap fantasies.
Now, we do make exceptions: usually when someone is being purposefully fundie for money (#mammon), or — occasionally — when it’s just plain funny. But racist porn doesn’t seem like something deserving of that consideration.

@HS How about we not submit racist porn fantasies?

Various Commenters #psycho #racist

I guess this is what passes for ‘erotica’ in Nazi-land. *yawn*

yeahskam #moonbat

@ChrisBP747 #88173

Just a note:

On the one side we have Israel, the only democratic state in the region, inhabited to a large degree by one of the most abused people in history, very militaristic, but clearly out of necessity, both partly secular and partly extremely religious (especially with the high number of orthodox jews, which are coincidentally not at all liked by more secular ones for trying to control the way of living in Israel)

That’s a bit imprecise, if not even a wrong way to classify them. In actuality, nearly all Jews in Israel — even the secular ones! — are Orthodox (unlike in, say, the US). What you’re speaking of is usually termed ultra-Orthodox, and they are indeed the most religiously fundamentalist Jews.

Dave Blount #wingnut #transphobia

Moonbats hate Mother’s Day for the reason they hate all our holidays: it is an expression of a culture they are trying to destroy. Mother’s Day is even more unwoke than the Fourth of July and Thanksgiving, because it directly conflicts with the antifamily agenda. Also, it undermines LGBT dogma, according to which there is no such thing as mothers, only “birthing people” — who might be men. Above all, motherhood is wholesome, so it must be defiled and destroyed in accordance with left-wing aesthetics
[…]
Shapiro is one of the few established media figures with the guts to call transsexuals by their proper pronouns; he understands that referring to Rachel Levine as “she” gives moonbats veto power over reality itself.

Fun fact: I’m on a Discord server that’s literally run by trans people and has a heck of a lot of LGBT+ folks (though not everyone there is one). There are a lot of peeps there you’d consider ‘woke’ and far left.

Two people there said “happy Mother’s Day!” just the other day. Another one posted an appreciative meme referencing it.
A bunch of other folks reacted with cheerful emojis.

Not one person so much as complained or suggested there’s anything wrong with Mother’s Day.

Oh, also?

Above all, motherhood is wholesome, so it must be defiled and destroyed in accordance with left-wing aesthetics

Some of those people are left-wing moms.

Your ‘argument’ fails at every level, Dave. :3

DengistK & Colonizadounion #moonbat #racist

@Tilver #88114

I can point to some people who's ancestors weren't colonizing anything. Here's a list for Europe: Ireland, Finland, Iceland, Luxembourg, Switzerland, Slovenia, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Serbia, Kosovo, Montenegro, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania, Moldova, Bulgaria, Ukraine, Belarus. Lithuania, Estonia, Georgia, Azerbaijan and Armenia.

You missed Croatia, among others :P

Well, more or less. You have to remember that many of those countries were part of larger countries which did behave in an imperialistic way at times (e.g. Belarus, Ukraine and some others on the list were part of the USSR and their soldiers participated in the Red Army).

Also, some of those countries did have colonialist projects. For instance, the Kingdom of Yugoslavia (and its Serbian component in particular) had a policy towards Kosovo and Macedonia which we might term a sort of colonialism.

I would say your larger point stands, though.

BH Times #mammon #moonbat #racist

Unnamed Croatian nationalists #wingnut #psycho

Addendum: a bunch of the hooligans have been arrested in the meantime. I hope they face consequences, but in this country and given the nature of the incident, that’s far from certain.

Socrates #conspiracy #racist #wingnut

@KZadBhat #87455

Depends on what you consider ‘fascist’. If Spain’s Francoist regime qualifies in its entirety, that would be 36 years (1939-1975). If Portugal’s Estado Novo qualifies, that’s 41 years (1933-1974).
In other words, (quasi-)fascist regimes that knew better than to enter a doomed war against the world could actually survive for relatively long.

Complex Nightmare #conspiracy #transphobia

@JeanP #87300

How would it work for superbi? I mean, they don’t care about their partner’s gender.

Unfortunately, quite easily.
From a study, as quoted from here:

Two Canadian researchers recently asked almost 1000 cisgender folks if they would date a trans person in a new study published in the Journal of Social and Personal Relationships. This is the first study to ever attempt to quantify the extent of trans discrimination when it comes to romantic and sexual relationships.
958 participants (all but seven cisgender, ranging in age from 18 to 81, with an average age of 26) were asked to indicate which genders they would consider dating. The options included cisgender man, cisgender woman, trans man, trans woman, or genderqueer, and participants could select as many genders as they wanted.
[…]
Virtually all heterosexuals excluded trans folks from their dating pool: only 1.8% of straight women and 3.3% of straight men chose a trans person of either binary gender. But most non-heterosexuals weren’t down for dating a trans person either, with only 11.5% of gay men and 29% of lesbians being trans-inclusive in their dating preferences. Bisexual/queer/nonbinary participants (these were all combined into one group) were most open to having a trans partner, but even among them, almost half (48%) did not select either ‘trans man’ or ‘trans woman.’
Of the seven participants who themselves identified as transgender or nonbinary, 89% were willing to date another trans person.

So yeah… even bisexual people do care.

Btw. the results are quite odd when you get down to the details:

Surprisingly, among the 127 participants open to dating a trans person, almost half selected a trans person of a gender incongruent with their stated sexual orientation. For example, 50% of the trans-inclusive straight women and 28% of the trans-inclusive gay men were willing to date a trans woman, even though one wouldn’t expect either straight women or gay men to be attracted to women. Similarly, 50% of trans-inclusive straight men and 69% of trans-inclusive lesbians said they’d date a trans man, even though both groups are presumably only attracted to women. And 33% of the trans-inclusive bisexual/queer participants said they would only date a trans person of one gender but not the other, even though one may expect this group to be attracted to multiple genders.
Digging even deeper into the choices of cis folks willing to date trans people, an interesting pattern of discrimination against trans women in particular emerged among those who would be expected to be attracted to women: 28% of trans-inclusive bisexual/queer/nonbinary folks and 38% of trans-inclusive lesbians said they wouldn’t date a trans woman — only a trans man. There was no similar discrimination against trans men among those expected to be attracted to men: 0% of trans-inclusive gay men and only 5% of trans-inclusive bisexual/queer/nonbinary folks excluded trans men from their dating pool.

Emily Munroe Connolly #fundie #wingnut

ComplicatedSpirit & yesisaiditxx #sexist #transphobia

thecottongaslight #conspiracy #moonbat #transphobia

@Mathius_dragoon #86903

Well, yes. But there doesn’t seem to be much to that.
And the OP would actually agree with your sentiment.
Thus I wasn’t quite sure what you’re trying to say.

Alex Linder #conspiracy #racist #wingnut

thecottongaslight #conspiracy #moonbat #transphobia

Looks like yet another case of

“If you absolutely refuse to date trans people, ever, even if they look like their gender and have had the surgeries, it might be due to you having some unexamined transphobic attitudes”

being misunderstood as

“DATE ME OR ELSE!!1!”

It’s depressingly common.

Now, if anyone actually told you that you owe them your attraction and having sex with them (note: whoever they may be, as this also goes for people who aren’t trans), sure, they’re wrong… but they’d also be part of a small, weird fringe that is not representative of most trans people. Plus, such transfolk aren’t likely to have any sort of way to force you to comply with their demands anyway, and thus probably aren’t worth that much attention or alarmism.

I’m also disinclined to believe that a TERF is genuinely referring to the latter, rather than having the sort of misunderstanding I mentioned above — or, even worse, maliciously making things up as TERFs have shown themselves capable of doing, time and time again.

notyourfetish #transphobia

That's what kills me the most about TIMs. They think that if they "become lesbians" it will just be a 24/7 orgy with a bunch of hot girls.

More likely:
— Will cis lesbians want to date and potentially have sex with someone like me?
— Will they even want just my company? Will they welcome me at all?
— If they do, will it be genuine, or mere toleration for the sake of not appearing bigoted?
— Will I run into actual TERFs, who might do their best to not only make me feel utterly unwelcome, but go further and try to make my life a living hell?

The only ones who think trans women live a life of cheerful lesbian chasing and wanking off to porn fantasies are… TERFs and some conservatives.
The reality tends to be a life of anxiety, of wondering whether the people you meet will treat you like garbage, and of trying to avoid a heck of a lot of potentially dangerous situations while just navigating daily life. Given that you’re likely to have experienced a fair amount of those as a cis woman, you could show a little empathy, rather than perpetuate the same shit that people like you face solely due to being women in this world.

ProxyMusic #transphobia

Lovingly describes the Khmer Rouge genocide in which they killed ~2 million people in a country of 10 million… and unironically compares that to trans rights activism.
Thank you, ProxyMusic, for providing us with a piece that so showcases the essence of TERFdom: screaming to the heavens like you’re being slaughtered… over what is, in reality, a big pile of nothing.
The delusion is strong in this one!

Kinkshamer Pagliacci #psycho #transphobia

ONE trans person has been murdered in the UK in the last year. ONE. And it wasn't even because they were trans!

This seems to be true, yet kind of misleading at the same time.

When considering this issue, you need to keep a few things in mind. I recommend reading this short article: https://www.channel4.com/news/factcheck/factcheck-how-many-trans-people-murdered-uk

The article deals with a slightly earlier period than the OP, and mentions that to the best of our knowledge only one trans person was murdered in the UK between late 2017 and late 2018.

But when we talk about the trans murder rate and compare it to the general population’s homicide statistics, it’s based on comparing two barely compatible figures. On the one hand, we know exactly how many people there are in the UK; but on the other hand, the trans murder rate is based on estimates how many transgender people there are in the country, in total, including those not officially listed as having undergone the gender transition and sex reassignment process.
This total number is very fuzzy, where

The latest government publication on the topic (acknowledging there is no robust data) “tentatively” estimates that there are between 200,000 and 500,000 trans people in the UK.

So, very imprecise.
Not to mention that only 4910 of those people “have been given legal recognition of their change of sex in the form of a Gender Recognition Certificate.”

If we go by the 200-500 thousand figure, trans people have 2-5 times less of a chance of being murdered than the general population. But this is based on a very tiny sample size of only 9 trans people murdered in 9 years. All it takes is literally a few killings more or less and the percentage would change drastically.

Another issue you have to consider is that many, many trans people are not out and open about their identities (for understandable reasons), and even fewer of them have ‘fully’ transitioned or are recognized by the authorities as trans. Thus the chance for them being registered simply as having been murdered as a member of their birth sex seems, well, really high.

Indeed,

The Office for National Statistics (ONS) confirmed to FactCheck that “it is not possible to identify transgender victims in current homicide statistics” and “the sex of a homicide victim is determined by the police force that records the crime”.
In other words, there is not yet an official, standardised method for recording the deaths of trans people across the UK.

Finally, while the article I linked tentatively concludes that according to the results of extremely flawed data gathering, trans people do seem less likely to be *murdered*, it notes how it nevertheless seems likely that they suffer from greater amounts of other violent crimes being committed against them than the general (cisgender) population does.

desertbloom #crackpot #moonbat #sexist

@Spacewyrm #86214

God, sorry for overusing it at times, but this so deserves a Doom: Repercussions of Evil mad lib.

Desertbloom waited. The lights above her blinked and sparked out of the air. There were males in the base forum. She didn't see them, but had expected them, now for years. Her warnings to the libfems were not listenend to and now it was too late. Far too late for now, anyway.
Desertbloom was a femcel for fourteen years. When she was young she watched the streets and she said to mom "I want to be on the streets, mommy."
Mom said "NO! YOU WILL BE KILL BY MALES!"
There was a time when she believed her. Then as she got oldered she stopped. But now in the internet base of the Blackpill Feminism she knew there were males.
"This is the libfems," the radio crackered. "You must fight the males!"
So desertbloom gotted her palsma rifle and blew up the wall.
"SHE GOING TO KILL US," said the males!
"I will shoot at her," said the transdemon and he fired the rocket missiles. Desertbloom plasmaed at him and tried to blew him up. But then the ceiling fell and they were trapped and not able to kill.
"No! I must kill the males," she shouted!
The radio said "No, desertbloom. You are the males."
And then, desertbloom was a dudebro.

girl_pash #sexist #transphobia

@Mathius_dragoon #86115

What she was trying to say was that the subreddit was centered on lesbians (whoever they may be), not trans people (whoever they may be). The bemoaning of trans people’s complaints comes into that — e.g. TERFs oftentimes talk of trans women making lesbian or women’s issues all about themselves (though that wasn’t directly asserted here).

She’s… not quite denying that trans women can be lesbians (at least not overtly), but it’s clear that she doesn’t really accept them.

And that’s all that I’m willing to say in ‘defense’ of this pile of strange noxious biological goo.

Dr Mariam Al-Sohel #crackpot #homophobia #quack

PattyBouvier #crackpot #transphobia

Um, dear TERFs

I don’t know how to break it to you

But, err…

That’s something called humor.
The thing you’re quoting isn’t serious. It’s in jest. It wasn’t meant to be taken seriously.

You have heard of this concept? Saying things you don’t actually mean for the sake of amusement, yes?

…

I swear to god, these gals are the ones with actual rotten bimbo brains. -_-