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Rob Schneider #conspiracy #pratt #wingnut

“Global boiling”? Is that the climate denialists’ version of the flerfs’ “Spinning ball theory”? It sounds even sillier, because taken literally, it’s extremely unlikely that humanity would ever output enough carbon to veneraform¹ Earth to the point where the oceans start boiling off, even if we moved deep underground to avoid extinction and still kept burning every last bit of fossil fuel we reasonably could. I mean, deep underground, you’d expect geothermal and nuclear to be the most viable options, and there may not even be enough fossil fuels to go quite that far, anyway. There’s a pretty huge gap between “unsurvivable” and “actually boiling”.

¹Veneraform = “making the environment more Venus-like”, in the same way terraform can mean “making it more Earth-like”. In case anyone cares, the equivalent for Mars is areaform. Jupiter would likely be joviaform, though I have no idea why anyone would do that. Not sure about other planets.

Vakhgala #homophobia #fundie

Do you believe that “sexual orientation” means “genders which one chooses to have sex with”? If so, you might want to consider whether you might be bisexual or asexual, because most people don’t choose to have sex with people they’re not attracted to.

Olivia Taylor #transphobia #psycho

I’m going to guess that “critical thinking” means something along the lines of “bioessentialism is the only thing which makes sense to me, so everyone else should be logicked into it, lived experiences be damned”.

Also, once trans and nonbinary people are aware that those are a thing and they’ve become open to the idea that they might not be cis, it rarely works to shove the genie back in the bottle. There’s a very high chance that your child is just playing along, gave up on *you* as hopeless, and will reassert their identity after they’ve gained sufficient independence - and if they plan to transition, will come out to you a second time only after they’re already pretty far along.

Andrew Tate #dunning-kruger #elitist

Not caring about reading explains why he didn’t bother to research whether Romania was actually lax with sex trafficking or if it was just a rumor (or vibes, or outdated information, or whyever he was wrong about that).

Dsirugger #pratt

I’m going to agree on one point, though almost certainly not for the reason OP might expect. Which is: “Skeletor is evil because toxic masculinity”, assuming that this is indeed what the Director or anyone involved with the production in a major way actually intended, is a total cop-out.

There is definitely space in fictional media for a character to behave in problematic ways due to toxic masculinity, but are not purposefully malicious, including those who are genuinely trying to be better. So long, anyway, as it’s acknowledged or at least implied that they are definitely problematic. It’s not the sort of thing which inherently leads to evil, even if such views and behaviors tend to be damaging to both the person holding them and those around them. Toxic masculinity might have some narrative relevance to a villain’s descent into evil, but leaning into it as the primary or sole cause strikes me as lazy hackwork.

Mustache-twirling cartoon villains might sometimes have bizarre motivations, but that’s because their primary cause for being a villain is that they’re a sociopathic idiot, rather than the motivations themselves.

Tatsuya Ishida #wingnut

This seems to be portraying communists as not *really* caring about establishing a worker’s paradise, instead they just want to engage in class warfare for the sake of it.

In every movement, there are people who just want to fight the “good fight”, without having any sincere belief in the cause. That doesn’t mean that they’re anywhere remotely close to being the majority. If Communists had believed that Hitler’s “socialism” (not actually socialism) was a major stepping stone towards that, then they’d have joined up with him. In fact, a minority of them did, early on, and they were referred to as “Nazbols” (Nazi Bolsheviks). Things did not go well for them.

Todd White #crackpot #fundie

I’ve seen the comedic take that God hates sex because it’s gross and he can’t turn off his omniscience.

March for Billionaires #elitist #mammon

Fritz Berggren #racist #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy

So desperate to create right-wing death squads in order to prevent the rise of left-wing death squads, which they’re sure will happen any day now if they don’t.

Also weirdly, “Scandinavia” and “Europe” are separate categories. Maybe the OP meant “Western Europe”?

TheRingGoesSouth #sexist #racist #dunning-kruger

@Anon-e-moose #247944

Pfffft. I saw a study on literature somewhat recently, and apparently women read sci-fi at a slightly higher rate than men. The only category where men overwhelmingly dominate is Military Fiction. (Meanwhile the category where women overwhelmingly dominate is Historical Romance.) Now literature reading doesn’t necessarily extend to participation in conventions and fan spaces, and I don’t have experience with those as it was never my scene, but still, that seems just as dumb and wrong.

I went to physical meetups back in the BBS days and they were around one-third women and two-thirds men? Now granted, it’s within the realm of possibility that might have been skewed. It’s always possible women were more likely to show up at those things then men were, but it’s also possible that the reverse was true, and it’s also possible there were some BBSes which had very few women because toxic dudebros drove most of them away? It’s hard to say because most people didn’t openly state their gender. But anecdotally, even *before* the World Wide Web there were quite a lot of women online.

you just assumed you were talking to a man.

Remember “Tits or GTFO”? It was an extremely vulgar way of insinuating that anyone online who claimed to be a woman or girl wasn’t one unless they went out of their way to prove it.

Tatsuya Ishida #wingnut #racist

@Bastethotep #247370
When Tats makes anti-porn statements (or, more often, implies porn is bad by lumping it with other things he considers bad) he depicts it in a sleazy and/or abusive way, and normally in high heels and lingerie or something similarly not-quite-fully-nude. He never does full frontal, regardless. More likely, he just doesn’t consider classical-style nude statues to be porn, which is a surprisingly sane view, coming from him.

Regardless: 1.) Bigots in general mostly don’t care much for art that makes them think or feel (unless it’s something which validates their worldviews and/or invalidates everyone else’s) so they tend to gravitate towards things which have a high technical quality but are rather bland or even soulless; 2.) This strip is actually a good example of showing this phenomenon in action; 3.) Tats is depicting this as a good thing, because he’s become the very sort of bigot his younger self used to denounce.

Biblical gender roles #sexist

<@KeithInc.> #247401
16/17 was the norm

That actually depended. 16/17 was normal among the European aristocracy, due to the tradition of breeding up heirs ASAP, while among the peasantry early 20s were more common. I think a large part of the mistake comes from the fact that it wasn’t too uncommon to marry off girls from noble families as young as 13, but it was still considered morally repugnant to have sex with a girl younger than 16. It wasn’t illegal - but if she got pregnant too young and died as a result, then good luck getting another wife. Likewise, a lot of other cultures in various time periods it was common for young marriages and young heir breeding among at least some subset of the population, but generally only where patrilineal inheritance was an issue.

There also are/were primitive tribes which encourage active sex lives among very young people (we’re talking like 12-14), but only in cases where their diet and/or environment suppresses their fertility to the point where having kids at *any* age, despite frequent sex, is something of a crapshoot. Still nowhere near common for pregnancy to happen under the age of 16.

Jeffrey Wells #sexist #psycho

Selwyn Duke and Chad O. Jackson #pratt #fundie #wingnut #conspiracy

“because we celebrate a different kind of man than really existed”

There have been decades of building up an alternate, more palatable to centrists and moderate conservatives version of him. Not everyone subscribed to that, a lot of people have always celebrated him for the man he actually was.

He had to hide his real views, however, because revealing them would’ve been disqualifying in 1960s America

His views were not secret. There was no deception on his part. The deception was, again, decades of effort creating an alternate version of his legacy. And his views *absolutely* were not acceptable to the majority white people during the 1960s, that’s why there were a great many death threats, multiple FBI investigations of him, and at least two assassination attempts (one of which was successful).

Marxist who renounced Jesus Christ

Now you’re just rejecting a made-up version of MLK in favor of a different made-up version of him.

The_slump_lord #psycho #sexist

I know there are some conservative men out there who fantasize about tricking a young liberal woman into marrying him, and then turning into a total abuser to punish her for not being “properly” conservative… but how often does that actually work in real life? I suspect very rarely, in part because most people aren’t that good of actors or able to keep up a false persona consistently for several months minimum, and in part because the typical conservative only “knows” how liberals think and act based on stuff they collectively made up.

Children’s Health Defense #ableist #conspiracy #quack

Autism is a neuroautoimmune disorder

Apparently there’s a very rare condition called autoimmune encephalitis which is often misdiagnosed as severe autism. Also, for whatever reason (probably a complex genetic interaction, as most genes do not just do one thing) autistic people have 46% higher chance of having/getting certain autoimmune disorders (such as type 1 diabetes and rheumatoid arthritis), but so do their non-autistic close relatives. These two facts seem to be the origin of this particular bit of nonsense.

Russ Winter #wingnut #dunning-kruger #conspiracy

When it comes to technology, quite a lot of conspiracy theorists can’t tell fact from science fiction. They assume that there’s a lot of inaccurate Hollywood Sci-Fi tech unavailable to the general public in the hands of nefarious forces, that failed real technology was secretly perfected and in use by the government, that stuff that probably would work but we still haven’t quite figured it out yet has been in use since the 60s or 70s. But at they same time, they miss a lot of real tech which has been around for awhile, including things which would work better for the evil plots that they imagine or foil them entirely. It doesn’t matter what “patterns” you find when your explanations of them run smack into reality.

Also for that matter, most of them seem to have a poor grasp how other people function, which really doesn’t help either.

Kathleen Blanchard #ableist #wingnut

Donald Trump #racist

Reverse discrimination = privilege. Probably. Or maybe discrimination against the privileged? I mean, the concept of “reverse racism” doesn’t make a whole lot of sense, and I’m not sure if this does either.

Itsneverdoneitsneverover #psycho #sexist

Hmm, so assuming this isn’t a troll… pro-extinction anti-natalists often hate themselves for being human, but this one seems to hate himself more for being a man. This gets projected to other men as being equally hateworthy… but despite being bi he’ll only date men because he sees himself unworthy of dating women, or to avoid any risk of pregnancy, or both. I suspect the main reason why he’s pro-trans is because he thinks it’s inevitable sterility, but he’s against “rapehons¹” because it violates the purity of women or something similar. The rest of it makes sense in that context.

¹A “hon” is a trans woman who thinks she’s too masculine or ugly to ever pass, and while I’ve never heard the construction “rapehon”, I’m guessing it’s a reference to the TERFs’ imaginary plague of trans women trying to coerce lesbians into having sex with them.

@Karlmarx900 #246732

Anti-natalists run the gamut from “Let’s stop all the pro-natalist propaganda and let people do want they want without coercion” to “Let’s turn this world into a beautiful dead rock”. The ones near the middle of this scale want people to stop breeding, and then humanity slowly dying off from old age. If they also hate themselves a lot, then they’ll seriously consider committing suicide eventually, but not before getting their message out.

Caribbia #racist #conspiracy #elitist #wingnut

Re: #1: So, basically, subjugated peoples gained the right to vote, and they voted not to be subjugated, with all the consequences that entails, and you’re whining that this was too big of a change, too fast. Sorry, I can’t be too sympathetic about that.

Wayne Allyn Root #wingnut

Personally I’d find it funny that ICE was being emasculated (by conservative standards) just for a childish joke.

Boskov01 #transphobia #fundie

Zohran Mamdani and Sadiq Khan being mayors of major world cities within white-dominant countries (NYC and London, respectively) is totally breaking their minds, isn’t it? Especially since they’re both liberal and openly support LGBTQIA+ rights, which just does not compute.

Forward Synthesis #wingnut #psycho

Parents With Inconvenient Truths about Trans #transphobia

…body parts and reshaping them into humps, tails, fangs, beards, wings, and just about anything a wizard can think of.

I support ~~wizards~~ furries having the right to radical body autonomy just as I do with trans and non-binary people.

Tucker Carlson #wingnut

NATO is already sending soldiers to Greenland. I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the other member states are weighing the pros, cons, and risks of potential nuclear exchange.

Americaman #wingnut #psycho #racist

The thing about these comics is that Americaman is meant to be an idiot liberal. This leads to occasional strips where most people would be utterly baffled about what’s supposed to be wrong with it. Mostly it’s about grotesque racist or queerphobic stereotypes doing bad things and Americaman protecting them from anyone who tries to stop them.

It might seem weird that a US flag themed superhero is being depicted this way, but he’s obviously meant to be a parody of Captain America, who is way too woke for the MAGA crowd.

Mike Lindell #conspiracy #pratt #wingnut

He’s made a fool of himself multiple times over how the Dominion voting machines could not possibly be hacked in the way he insists that they were hacked, and lost everything over that, yet he never learns. He’s just left with “Hugo Chávez hacked them, but we have no idea how” despite Chávez having died in 2013. Even if there was some sort of beyond-the-grave plot which was secretly enacted in 2020 which we still have no idea how it could have been done, it doesn’t follow that Nicolás Maduro has any idea how it was done either. Or maybe Lindell changed his mind and thinks Maduro did it? Which isn’t a whole lot better.

various commenters #wingnut #racist

Being called anti semetic is the new "racist" or "homophobe".

No, we still call people like you racists and homophobes when you are those. Also “antisemitic” has been in continuous use since the late 19th century, it’s not new in any sense nor has anyone stopped calling people like you that.

One Who Serves via James McConnell #ufo #magick #wingnut #conspiracy

@Peacemonger373 #245966
Considering that none of those depict the same future, probably metaphorically in some sense?

Also, I don’t know if Star Wars or Stargate canonically explain what their energy sources are, but in Star Trek the primary source for Spaceships is Matter-Antimatter annihilation. That’s not “free energy”, you have to make the antimatter somehow. Or, I guess, you could collect the minuscule traces of antimatter being produced by the sun, but I can’t see that as being very practical - if you’re that close, there are so many easy ways to generate far larger amounts of energy, and you could probably just convert the excess into antimatter much faster and more cheaply than it would be to collect it.

SiriusB Shaman #crackpot #magick #conspiracy

Weirdest explanation of the “Mandela Effect” I’ve ever seen. Also either entirely made up, or a particularly extreme version of it in action.

GammaBawm #homophobia #dunning-kruger

Back in the late 2000s to early 2010s there were a lot of younger people - mainly but not exclusively kids around 8-14 who didn’t know any better - who used “gay” to mean “uncool” (similar to the earlier “lame”) and “-fag” as a suffix (or occasionally by itself) as a general insult. One of the earliest and oddest uses of the latter was “realfag”, referring to someone who is rarely or never online. (It was likely inspired by the Japanese otaku slang term “riajuu” basically meaning “real lifer”). Regardless, it went away once LGBTQIA+ people became a lot more visible online and some of those kids truly understood how offensive they were being. I have heard that it persisted awhile longer in First-Person Shooter games as a way to mock people’s manhood, (and this post seems to suggest that it may have actually started there, though I can’t confirm that) mainly by late teens and 20-somethings who generally did know how offensive it was, they just didn’t care. Meanwhile open homophobes continued to use it the same way as always.

Both terms originate from the early 20th century. I’m not sure if “gay” was ever a pejorative - and if it was, it wasn’t for all that long - but “fag” has always been a slur which has never been reclaimed to any meaningful extent. The fact that some ignorant kids used them differently for a few years and some immature and “edgy” young adults pretended that they were using it differently for longer doesn’t mean that it popped into existence in 2009 or whenever or that people are just randomly taking offense for no reason.

Anonymous #sexist #homophobia

There have never been any meaningful consequences for AMAB people for straying too far from cisheteronormativity? Maybe during some times and places if they were high-level nobility or extremely rich, but otherwise that’s completely ahistorical.

Greg Gutfeld #wingnut

Yeah, but, you know, it's honest.

This reminds me of how, in recent years, there seems to be an increase in the number of people who demand forgiveness because they were “honest”… or perhaps the phenomenon was always somewhat common, it’s just become more visible. An example is someone who cheats on their partner, and then goes “oh by the way, I’ve been having sex with so-and-so, will continue to do so, also we now have an open relationship” and ignores or overrides any objections. Then they get served with divorce papers, or their boyfriend/girlfriend/fiance/lover breaks up with them and moves out, or whatever, and they’re all like “but I engaged in open and honest communication in my relationship like I was supposed to! That should have made things all right!” This seems to be the same sort of thinking, applied to international relations.

various commenters #wingnut #quack

Now watch the Autism & SIDS rates go down

SIDS, as in Sudden Infant Death Syndrome? This is a really weird assertion, given that children aren’t normally given vaccines until they’re 2 years old and SIDS only affects those under 1 year (and with very rare exceptions, only those under 8 months). Is this some sort of retrocausality thing where not vaccinating your children in the future prevents them from dying now? But if they die now then they won’t be alive in the future to be vaccinated, so how does that even work?

Wait, do they believe the Vitamin K shot given to newborns is a vaccine? That would definitely line up with their usual sort of stupidity.

various commenters #wingnut #racist

Richard III is the stupidest objection out of these (or at least out of the ones which I can identify). That one was the Shakespeare play. My experience with Shakespearian actors is that they don’t give a crap about the race of the actor playing a particular role, and sometimes they do all male, all female, or gender-swapped showings. I even heard of an all-enby play once, though I didn’t get a chance to see that one.

MyronGainesX #wingnut #fundie

Originally swearing on a bible wasn’t meant to be symbolic, it was meant to make people fear Hell for violating their oath and/or shirking their duties. Not that this has ever been particularly effective at that. Now that it’s more symbolic, it’s best if sincere people swear on whatever is meaningful for them, and for insincere people, it really doesn’t matter what they pick.

Sapphoetia #transphobia

MAY LESBIAN ARTEMIS STRIKE HIM DOWN

Artemis turned Siproites into a woman. We don’t know the context because that story has only been mentioned in documents and no copies of the story itself have been found… but given that’s relatively mild compared to the torment and death she inflicts upon the men who offend her, it’s possible that wasn’t meant as a punishment. I mean, the Greeks themselves saw the Gods turning a man into a woman as a downgrade, and turning a woman into a man as an upgrade, but you know, Patriarchy. Invoking Artemis here is risky; for all you know she might show mercy to a trans woman and punish you instead.

Mazakena #fundie #homophobia

This is a declaration of fact framed as an opinion. That’s not something which you can just weasel out of by stating that it’s “just your opinion” (even if you truly believe that) if someone calls you out for it. And even if you could, people still don’t have to respect terrible opinions.

Tatsuya Ishida #racist #conspiracy #crackpot #dunning-kruger

@Malingspann #245051
While I haven’t personally seen anyone try to make it, a potential bad-faith argument here is that the invasions of Poland and France were separate, legitimate military actions which had nothing to do with WWII and the real war didn’t start until other nations illegitimately got involved.

Telestai Nexus #crackpot #dunning-kruger #conspiracy

H₂, O₂, and H₂O are different combinations of atoms with different properties. Imagine that!

For that matter, if you had a collection of H or O atoms (or whatever) which didn’t form atomic bonds, you’d have a plasma, not a gas. This would be true if you managed to strip out all the free-flowing electrons and cooled it down to a temperature too low to form plasma; it would still not be a gas and would have different properties than H₂ or O₂.

There’s a concept which the OP seems to not be aware of called “emergence” where the whole is different from (and often greater than) the sum of its parts. It’s hard to imagine how anything like our highly complex reality could exist otherwise.

J.K.Rowling #transphobia

There are two possible interpretations of this. To simply things for the purpose of this conversation, let’s ignore non-binary identities. (Apologies to any enbies or others who might be reading this.) One is that “if a trans woman wasn’t trans, she’d be cis” (Or “normal”, as most transphobes would put it) like @Malingspann mentioned. Which is not a gotcha, and it would be utterly bizarre to then say she’d be a man. The other is that “If an (adult) AMAB person wasn’t trans, he’d be a man” which is also not a gotcha, and would imply that trans women are indeed women.

I suspect that JoKeR owling here is trying to imply that “trans” is some sort of genderflip modifier which can be gained or lost, and if one can lose their womanhood then they weren’t a real woman in the first place… but then you’d have to question whether that means that *anyone* can truly be a man or a woman, if said modifier can be gained or lost so easily. Which might even be the intended point, in which case the “solution” would likely be to legally define “trans” out of existence, so that people can definitely be men or women. Which would be about as effective as trying to fix global warming by legally defining CO₂ out of existence. But I suppose that makes sense to someone who sees “trans” as some sort of purely social and/or legal fiction.

Eric Hovind #fundie

Even if we take that all that as a given, there’s still a gap of at least 1700 years between Noah’s supposed death and when the earliest versions of the Old Testament were written. Oh, wait, I forgot there were “ancient scrolls” which King Josiah found inside of a magical box, and no you can’t look at them… except said scrolls couldn’t have been *that* ancient, as they apparently included some badly garbled accounts of various historical events which happened anywhere from 800 to 1400 years after Noah’s supposed death. Hmmm…

[Edit: Changed “New Testament” to “Old Testament”, oops]

Donald Trump #wingnut #conspiracy #pratt

He also replaced the photo of Joe Biden with a photo of an autopen. No idea where the original is. This level of pettiness mirrors his first term, where the photo of Barack Obama was removed and hung up in a coatroom.

various commenters #wingnut #racist #transphobia

It would be deeply ironic if Magnus Hirschfeld rose from relative obscurity and became a prominent historical figure because the Nazis tried to erase his legacy a second time.

Tatsuya Ishida #racist #conspiracy

Tatsuya’s views on Trump has evolved over the years, but one thing has remained pretty consistent - he doesn’t seem to hate the guy, but at the same time, really doesn’t respect him either. Ever since the Orange One was re-elected, Tats has been depicting him as some sort of naive, easily manipulated, baby-faced prince.

Donald J. Trump #conspiracy #crackpot #dunning-kruger #racist #transphobia #wingnut

As a USAian, I totally understand if no one trusts this country anymore. Whenever the Republicans are sufficiently in charge, they undo much of the work of their predecessors, including other Republicans, and throw out any inconvenient promises/deals/treaties for short-term political convenience. Democrats haven’t been very reliable at fixing that - to be fair, it’s not entirely their fault, rebuilding stuff is harder than breaking things, and the Senate has been a frequent roadblock to getting anything done regardless of who’s in charge. But even if they were, the fact that there would be gaps regardless is enough for us to be considered unreliable.

It started to become a noticeable problem during the Bush Junior administration and has only gotten worse under Trump. There’s no good reason to believe it’s going to end any time remotely soon, even if Trump is as bad as it’s going to get, and for that I apologize on our behalf.

Tatsuya Ishida #conspiracy #racist #psycho

Humanizing a villain, and even making them the protagonist, is something which people have been doing since at least Paradise Lost (1667), and probably far longer. Note that “protagonist” does not always mean hero; humanized villains are often tragic figures, but they’re still the bad guys, or anti-heroes at best. Hitler himself got that treatment in Downfall (2004), and that movie doesn’t glorify him in the slightest.

I want to say that Tats doesn’t seem to understand the difference, but whether or not he does, he probably doesn’t care. This isn’t even the first time he’s portrayed Hitler as a savior of some sort, whose tragedy was being wrongfully demonized, as he was probably just looking for an excuse to write a whole damn storyline of Hitler-as-hero instead of just another one-shot.

(I also expect that Tats will forget that this was supposed to be a story written by Slick, if he hasn’t already.)