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JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

Adam and Eve in the Bible were real people and their descendants today make up 20% of Europe.

Of course that means that 80% of Europeans are NOT decended from the Bible Adam and Eve. But they were decended from the out of Africa Adam and Eve. [...]

Of course science wants to try to confuse the issue to hide that the Bible is true and that the DNA evidence shows that the Bible is true.

The Adam and Eve in the Bible were the first of a lot of different things. This is the beginning of civilization, of written history just to name a few. The Bible talks about precious metals like God and Silver. That takes us out of the stone age to be sure.

The Bible talks about farming, and that is what the neolithic revolution is all about is the beginning of farming. There is no question that the Bible as written history gives us a valuable record of some of the things that were going on in the world at that time.

B®ent #fundie christianforums.com

The True Gospel

I would say 95% of Christians "tone down" the Gospel on a regular basis in order to avoid "offending" people. We cringe at the thought of sounding "intolerant." Some people claim we must water down the Gospel in order to draw in the unbelievers. That is to say, if we preach the Bible, they'll be "turned off." Here is my response to such heresy:

If we water down the Gospel in order to draw people into Christianity, it won't be Christianity anymore. It will be another gospel, and those people we "draw in" will be deceived by our false gospel, and will surely be condemned as a result.

Do we want to be responsible for such a thing?

Why not preach the truth boldly, and leave the rest to the sovereign God?

Why do we avoid preaching about the Judgement and the Lake of Fire when such events/places are BIBLICAL FACT?

IF WE REALLY LOVE UNBELIEVERS AS WE CLAIM TO, IS IT NOT OUR OBLIGATION TO WARN THEM ABOUT HELL?

Knowledge3 #fundie christianforums.com

We outlaw cannabis and mushrooms but yet we legalize the sale of alcohol which leads to DWI and tobacco which is known to cause cancer.

That is why the arguments for ToE has not convinced me in the laws of science and nature.

wanderphilos #fundie christianforums.com

[Why he thinks lesbians are okay, but gay men are sinful]

As far as the lesbian thing...I like women...I can understand how a woman can desire another woman...I had desired many a woman myself. But as I have grown in my understanding I see how things can be presented to people to ease the thoughts. Some of my friends say...Hey...Lesbians aren't really joining...so it's no differnt than if they are dating their 'personal live in pleasure doctor'.

Carico #fundie christianforums.com

(Christian Forums) Not a Christian forum

I have been warned by many people that this is not a Christian forum. And considering the fact that I am a Christian yet almost all of my threads have either been deleted or closed, I have been warned for speaking out about how I have been treated, I was banned last year for believing the bible, the posts of people slandering our Lord and others on this forum that I have reported have been rejected, and I am now banned from witnessing to atheists, I have been given numerous infractions and warnings for saying the same things others are allowed to say, I have been referred to the Appeals forum which I've been told is the only place to say anything that might not be considered flattering to the mods, yet I was told I don't have permission to access that page.

So sorry, staff, you can't keep people from telling the truth no matter how hard you try because it will only come back to you. So I will speak the truth until it's too convicting for you to hear and you ban me for good. But that can never make this a Christian forum. This kind of thing doesn't happen on atheists forums much less anywhere in America. Jesus tells us that the truth will set us free. But since no one can tell the truth here, this forum is hardly free. I feel like I;'m in Nazi Germany where it's all about power and control.

Knowledge3 #fundie christianforums.com

[The contradictions between Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 are a bigger problem.]

There is no contradiction. In order to explain an act of creation, you have to explain it in sequence.

For example:

1) I created an automobile. 2) I formed the metal structure of the automobile and formed it's schematics 3) Then I designed rules for how the automobile should work and special electronic chips to gauge it's speed and rate of travel. 4) Then I saw it as a good automobile.

KarateCowboy #fundie christianforums.com

Whether you believe it or not, let us say for a moment that atheistic evolution is the answer. Not only that, we'll assume that abiogenesis is true(even though we still can't reproduce it). Please, just for a minute. Let us all assume it is true.

When you mix potassium and water you get a nice explosion.

When light hits a white subject, all the colors are reflected.

When you heat water to a certain temperature it turns to vapor.

When you heat other things to a certain temperature they turn to vapor.

When you lump a bunch of proteins and amino acids blah blah blah, and add a few billion years to it you get Pokemon.

Yes, that's right, Pokemon. Pokemon are a natural phenomenon.

What I am saying is that in this universe you have all these sets of conditions where if A happens then B is the result. If atheistic evolution is true, then emotions such as love, hate, apathy, desire, lust, and ideas such as houses, cars, boxer briefs, Hooters restaurants, Pokemon, Nintendo, katanas, Western style horseback riding, etc. are all part of evolution and are inherent in the laws of the universe. Think about it. An inherent trait of carbon + water plus other junk is disco dancing and an inherent, advanced form is D&D nerds.

So, what do you think about this?

strikerchris0411 #fundie christianforums.com

For Atheists

Ok how do you like these views.

How can you believe in no god if there is proof of some spirit out there.

The reason is there is wege boards. I don't know if i spelled it right, but i think yall know what i am talking about. Idk if you guys believe in those. but I have heard some pretty convincing stories. IF there was no God then there would probaly not be life after death

vjaine #fundie christianforums.com

I'm very annoyed by receiving forwarded "Christian" emails. They claim "send this email to 7 people and you'll get what you've been praying for" "bless 7 people in 7 minutes to receive a blessing"

For me, these emails are a form of witchcraft, not that everyone who sends them is a certified practitioner, but they have a manipulative, formulaic tone to them. Some even urge you not to throw them away or you'll miss out or something else.

SeenAndUnseen #fundie christianforums.com

Most Mohammedans are clueless about Western culture. They are insensitive to our way of life, and they don't try to learn the reality of situations. This is their problem, not ours. Perhaps our prayers will lead to their understanding, in time, and to their conversions.

Warrior Angel #fundie christianforums.com

[It seems to me that Satan must be more powerful than God. After all, the majority of the world are non-Christian.

As such, we should worship him. After all, as he is more powerful, he is going to kick some on judgment day...]


(sighing smiley) Is this logic?

Anyway, Christ knew when He expanded His Laws to outsiders [in addition to the Jews] that the world would not care. Would not worry.

This is why the path is narrow, and few go to Heaven.

Bragging about non belief is like a frog who sat in water til it boiled, and then bragging about how he didnt notice the temp change.

2 billion Christians and 6 billion ppl. That is an average of 1 in 3 and then the averae gets more narrow.

Carico #fundie christianforums.com

"The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all the godlessness and wickedness of men who suppress the truth by their wickedness. Since what mat be known about God is plain to them because God has made it plain to them. For since the creation of the world, God's invisible qualities, his divine nature and eternal power have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made so that men are without excuse.
For although they knew God, they neither glorified him nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became fulite and their foolish hearts were darkened. Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like mortal man and birds and animals and reptiles."

That pretty much describes atheists. But they'll disagree because all they know is what's in their own minds. But they have no clue what makes them think the way they do. They think it's themselves when in reality, God is not drawing them. But in those whom God is drawing, they want something more than rebellion against God and they truly desire to know about him. So the whole key is that since none of us knows who's being drawn, salvation is open to all and we are all accountable for our actions, attitudes, and beliefs." (Waving smiley)

Carico #fundie christianforums.com

I don't think that evolutionists realize how scientists date objects. I'm sure most evolutionists think that they use dating methods like carbon 14 dating or radiometric dating to determine how old the earth is or how old man is. But in reality, they most often determine the dates of their findings by other imaginary theories.

For example; in order to explain the sedimentary rock layers all over the world, instead of seeing the fact that the world was at one time covered in water by a flood, they have come up with the notion that there was an ice age which of course, they can't prove. So when they find an object they realize it had to have happened before this imaginary ice age so they date it a gazillion years ago so both theories fall into place. Therefore, they date objects on imaginary theories rather than one time-tested dating methods that never fail.

So what happens is this; once upon a time, apes bred human-like creatures called homonids. But there was an ice age so they had to have lived after this ice age which would make them....let's see...at least...hundreds of thousands of years old because it would had to have taken the ice at least hundreds of thousands of years to melt and since apes don't turn into human beings overnight, that takes, probably millions of years, so we'll put the ice age much farther back to maybe about a billion years. But wait, the earth had to take billions of years to cool down from the big bang, so we'll have to make the ice age farther ahead to...let's say...several million years ago. That would give monkeys enough time to turn into humans. And yet they think they are rational.

Carico #fundie christianforums.com

Bestiality

Since evolutionists believe that humans are animals, then they must believe that sex between humans is bestiality. Is that correct?

Sorry evo's but everyone knows what a human has to mate with in order to engage in bestiality. So you're not fooling anyone except those who are also fooling themselves, by claiming that humans are animals. Even children can tell the difference bewteen animals and humans and deep down inside, I think evolutionists really can also. So your game is exposed.

IvanOng #fundie christianforums.com

It was like while im lying on the bed facing the left side, something was lying on my right side pinching/squeezing my stomach/kidney area... its a little bit of tickish feeling but with pain....

I'm pretty sure that 'thing' on my right side keeps on trying its best to discomfort/attack me at its position. That thing binded my movement, I couldn't turn right, couldnt move at all. When I shout.. I could even hear my own voice at it softest moment(abit like whispering) and also it went slow motion.

Then during that struggle, I remember reading threads regarding such situation in CF and I started praying in tongues as loud and as fast as I could.

Initially, i could hear my own soft and slow tongues, but the more I resist and think of Jesus as my saviour and the victorier, my praying in tongues went into normal tone and loud and smooth until the painness and struggle went away!!!

I even remember I laughed while im saying HALLELUJAH after that victorious battle... wow

YoungJoonKim #fundie christianforums.com

To be honest, who doesn't feel like gay time to time?
I'd say...little?

Anyways, let's not go to "pro-gay"

to be honest, I do not believe in gay marriage or their immoral "ACTIVITIES"

Being gay means fullfilling one's sexual DESIRE (feeling drawn to feelings of companionship, love, like, similarity, and so on) and partnership forever..
but that's my belief..
but marriage between man and woman can be more if done right..

Well, we human beings are DRAWN to sin 24/7 anyways hahahaha
Gay has been within our society ..long before even Christ was born..

Gay is...not natural... and if it's natural, it's natural of sin.
My guardian says that gay is natural..he said he was anti-gay but not anymore (etc. his not gay )

It's funny topic as stands..never gets solves..ignorance everywhere..

Let's just believe in Bible and old testment
Bible says God loves all..but cannot face sin.
So have fun deciding whether gay marriage is right or wrong because allowing gay marriage to occur or believe it should occur, means, "moral meltdown" and all your moral standard will be like crushing down hahaha
because there is hole in your moral..
and if that moral is not fullfilled, it will never be the same.
But God understands.
So I don't think it's unhealthy to spiritual level to think gay is right either is gay is not right.

So less tensity please

(Again, I'm against gay marriage at all cost..)

Moonglovv #fundie #homophobia christianforums.com

Leaving the deathstyle

I'm Just a "noob" but I know I can do this. I've been reading some otf the arugments against leaving the homosexual lifestyle (which I'll call the Homosexual Deathstyle from now on) and I just can't believe so many people are deceived by the Devil. Especially those who can call themselves Christians.

All the studies and statistics in the world can be used to prove anything one way or another but what really matters is what happens in a persons actual life.

I would like to start this thread so that people will know that leaving the Deathstyle is possible. I left it behind when I found Christ. I want to encourage other people on this board to contribute to the thread thier own personal testimony of leaving Homosexuality. I KNOW there are many on this board who have.

If you're some kind of skeptic I'm not really interested in hearing from you. However if you are a Homosexual who is struggling and wants to talk about things and you aren't afraid to listen to God's honest truth then you are more than welcome.

God Bless,
Helen

ArcticFox #fundie #homophobia christianforums.com

In ancient times homosexuality was prevelant in such a way that the writers of the Scriptures felt the need to address the issue specifically. What did they have to say? Although it is not extensive, it is very clear from what exists that homosexual practices are considered a form of sexual deviancy. Romans chapter 1 does the best job of stating this, for homosexual practices are likened to exchanging the glory of God for worthless idols. Somehow, in the mind of Paul (and I believe the inspired writings of Paul), homosexual practices are a form of idolatry and the sacrificing of God's glory for a ‘dark’ purposes.

There are other verses addressing this issue. I am not sure if they were mentioned, but I would assume so. To the original poster: if you desire, please ask and you will be provided with the necessary Scriptural passages. I don’t believe, however, that is your main concern.

I do believe that your main concern is about how to love your neighbor. First, I implore you to consider what standard you consider absolute. Do you believe that standards can ‘drift’ over time, shifting to fit the needs of an ever-changing society? Or do you believe that there is one standard by which every society in every generation must answer to? We see laws come and go with governments, should we expect the same for religious customs and beliefs?

My firm belief is that the Bible stands as a testament to what God has to say to the world, and that through this medium he speaks words of power that are fully capable of bringing about all that he plans. I believe that this word of the living God teaches us to abhor certain practices labeled as ‘evil;’ homosexual acts are one such practice. They are lumped together with lying, stealing, murdering, adultery, haughtiness, boastfulness, gossip, etc. (Romans 1:28-32)

So how do we love people who claim that they are ‘homosexual?’ Do we consider someone who murders a ‘murderer’ in the sense that a murderer is who he is? Or do we treat a murderer as someone who commits an action that can be repented of and forgiven, allowing progress to be made? Do we consider a pedophile as having a character trait, or a character flaw that needs correction?

The idea of someone ‘being homosexual’ is a language issue in English that can prevent good discourse from happening. We label individuals as if that is part of their identity, and no doubt many claim that it IS indeed part of their identity. I do not believe so. I do not believe that homosexuality is any more a part of their identity than adultery is part of someone’s identity. I do not consider someone a lifetime ‘adulterer’ with such as their identity; I consider an action or a lifestyle choice (if they continue in it).

I consider someone a ‘Christian’ in their identity because I believe they are brought into a new identity in Christ (according to Scripture). I believe this then becomes part of who they are, and it is central to their being.

I believe homosexuality is different. Our desires are a combination of natural, built-in desires and those that are programmed into us by our greater culture (society as a whole, i.e. Japan, China, Kenya, etc.), our immediate culture (family/friends/etc), and by ourselves (our own choices, resolves, etc). Having grown up in the states (US), I took to playing chess. I love the game. Now that I live in Japan, I hardly ever play; why is that? It’s because one culture instilled in me a desire for something that is common and popular, while the other culture began removing that desire by lack of presence.

After all, how many of you crave sanshoku dango? Or how many of you crave Melon Pan? This are two of my favorite snack foods in Japan, and the craving for these things was non-existant before I came here and began eating them. You cannot crave what you have no experience with. That is not saying that you are unable to crave something because you didn’t try it; I’m saying you’re unable to crave something that you are unaware of.

How far can someone claim that their homosexual desires are inherent? If they are, is that justification for the practice? After all, some people are inherently more aggressive, but we never use this argument as justification for unwarranted violence. should we not expect the result of sin corrupting the world to end with unholy desires in us? How far can a pedophile or practicer of beastiality claim inherent desire? Where does a culture draw the line and label one ‘deviant sexual practice’ and label the other ‘accepted, inherent sexual desire.’

Do you consider a person ‘homosexual’ if they have never had relations with an individual of their own gender? If so, that put it on the same level as heterosexuality (something we DO all generally consider inherent and a part of our identity). What about people who consider themselves heterosexual, have never practied homosexuality, yet have occasionally had such thoughts or desires? What label do they carry?

Let me end with a short story that should illustrate the point. It should show how our labels may actually be limiting people who otherwise should not be limited:

I once knew someone who grew up quite normally. Catch is, this individual had problems with the law and discipline. Trouble was constantly around the corner. Eventually, after a normal sexual identity of hetereosexual relationships, this individual delved for a brief time into a homosexual relationship. After ending the relationship, this individual never returned to such practices again, and in fact abhorred them. This individual never went through ‘therapy’ for such, nor was he pressured for nobody knew about it.

What label does this individual carry, who no longer has any such desires nor feels any identity with homosexuality? Did he make a switch from heterosexual identity to homosexual identity and then back again? Did he only briefly ‘experiment’ but was neverly truly ‘homosexual?’ Is he ‘bisexual’ but represses one sexual identity?

Consider that love for your neighbor will lead you upstream at times. Love, after all, accepts you for who you are, but will never leave you that way. Who loves who leaves a person in all their previous states of sin and sorrow? Who does not seek to build up their friends? If you seek to build up, then you must seek to change, indirectly or directly. If you do not seek to build up, then perhaps you are not such a good friend; this applies to all of us, including me.

Elijah2 #fundie christianforums.com

DELIVERANCE HOW CAN A CHRISTIAN HAVE DEMONS?

When you are born-again, you are suppose to become a Christian, a Believer, and a True Worshipper of our Lord Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit comes to abide in your “spirit”.

Now demons, “unclean spirits”, cannot get into your “spirit”.

But, you are a triune being; your “house” is a “body”, a “soul”, and a “spirit”.

Your “soul”, contains your “mind”, “will”, “heart”, and “emotions”

A Christian’s “body” can have a sickness, or a disease, just the same as the people of the world, the non-Christian, the un-saved. These sicknesses and disease can be caused by physical factors, but if there are no physical factors then they can have a demon, an “unclean spirit in their house”.

A Christian’s “soul” is the area of oppression or possession through their “mind”, “will”, “heart”, and “emotions”.

If a Christian has a bad temper, anger, bitterness, criticism, and unforgiveness in their “mind”, “will”, “heart”, and “emotions”, then they can have a demon.

If a Christian has a mental illness, and it is in their family background, then they can have a demon.

If a Christian has trouble serving our Lord Jesus Christ, then they can have a demon.

If a Christian has bad thoughts, then they can have a demon.

If other Christians continually reject another Christian, then they all can have a demon.

Now, demons cannot get into a Christian’s “spirit”, but, they can surround their “spirit” like a glass jar that surrounds its contents. And if a Christian is having trouble serving our Lord Jesus Christ the way God’s Inspired Word tells them to do, or that they want to do. Then the contents of the jar cannot get out, until the lid is removed. The lid on the glass jar is those demons, their “strongmen” and their “strongholds”.

MercyBurst #fundie christianforums.com

[No credible scientist, writing a scientifically credible paper would refer to things like "the consequences of the lifestyle" as if homosexuals are a monolithic and homogenous community, joining which would entail certain, predictable consequences.]

Most every literate person knows the consequences of the lifestyle such as STDs and mental illnesses. .

ElijahFalling #fundie christianforums.com

18-Year Old Boy Thrown Into The Lake of Fire

[BOCA RATON, Fla., Oct. 2 (UPI) -- Derek Brandon Jacobs, one of the first people in the world to bear an identification microchip, has died at 18 in a Florida motorcycle accident.

Jacobs -- a computer prodigy who gained worldwide attention when he and his parents appeared on NBC's "Today" show after being implanted with VeriChip identification tags -- died Saturday after losing control of his motorcycle in Boca Raton, the South Florida Sun-Sentinel reported Monday.]

Let this be a reminder to all those who are thinking about taking the MARK OF SATAN. Death can come knocking at your door any day. Take the mark of the beast and you will for sure be thrown into the lake of fire.

MikeMcK #fundie christianforums.com

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I really do believe that this [the Foley scandal] is just a liberal hatchet job.

The first clue is that they're calling for Denny Hastert's resignation when he isn't even involved.

The second is that nearly every single "fact" they've presented has turned out to be untrue.

Does anybody remember just a few years ago when Bill Clinton was getting oral sex from his interns and the Democrats said that what he did in his private life was no big deal?

But of course, a Republican sends a couple of dirty emails and they're so outraged that they're calling for the resignation of people who aren't even invloved.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

[Are people animals?]

From a Christian perspective: Yes, if your not born again, if your do not belong to God, then you are not any better then the animals. But if your born again and a new creation in Christ, then you have taken on a new divine nature and you are raised up above the animals.

jamesrwright3 #fundie christianforums.com

(In order to believe that the Foley affair was a planned Democratic plot, we'd have to assume that the Republicans are so stupid as to let it happen.)

jameswright3: No we don't. All we have to assume is those lurid IM's came out at the right time in conjunction with the rekindling of the e-mail story, which is what occured
Republicans didn't let it happen. They didn't have the information the Dems had. If there was anyone involved in a coverup, it was the Dems, who held this until the right time
I wonder why Pelosi won't go under oath or sign a sworn affidavit
Maybe because she knew about it all along..
There has to be some explanation why she doens't want to give testimony under oath as part of an internal house investigation

(If the Republicans were worried about this story coming out at election time, HASTERT SHOULD HAVE ADDRESSED THE ISSUE YEARS AGO.)

jameswright3: They addressed it as far as they could go based on the innocuous e-mails they had

(First, you claim the story isn't news.)

jameswright3: The original story wasn't news without the IM's

(Then you claim the Democrats have been sitting on it like it was some top secret intelligence.)

jameswright3: They have sat on it. Those IM's were in the hands of the democratic operatives as per the pages that were involved in it

humbledbyhim #fundie christianforums.com

God can heal anything, but what God does for us depends on our capacity to believe that he can do it for us.

This is a true story:(not that you'll believe me ,but whatever...

A pastor once told a story about a man in a wheelchair that he asked, "Do you want to walk?" The man said, " Yes!" The pastor said, " Then get up!" The man struggled to get up. This happened two more times, so the pastor ripped the blanket off of the man to see that he had no legs. Immediately, he stopped telling the man to get up. Why, because the only person in that room who believed that he man could get up with no legs was the man himself. Their doubt may well have cost that man new legs. They beleived that a crippled man with legs could get up, but they didn't believe that God could heal a man without legs.

My point of view is what you call a cop-out: I don't care if you never see a miracle or proof thereof, the judgement is certain. (This should get some blood boiling)

Dalecana #fundie christianforums.com

[Two posts on the same thread.]

?Did the devil create us?

What is the basic matter of all life...

~CARBON~

What is carbon made of...

6-nuetrons
6-electrons
6- protons.

[Another poster: Hebrews 11:3
"Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear."

may be talking about atoms, electrons, etc.]

Who knows I hate fisica {Physics}

If i hear anymore religious crap About wha came first egg or chicken, Or aotm and eve were really black i will ide.

MercyBurst #fundie christianforums.com

After decades of cultivating a victim mentality ad nauseam, homosexual advocates are reduced to this argument: Foley's predatory behavior was, ultimately, OUR fault. Society (read: Bible-believing Christians and churches) is to blame. Once again the circular logic of what I call "gay fundamentalism" is exposed: whatever deviance, whatever threats to health, children and morality–all is laid at the door of "homophobic" society because of the "shame" we cause "gays" by not celebrating or at least not accepting their lifestyle choice. How convenient for them.

It seems as though gays are extremely prone to alchohol abuse problems, I mean this just keeps coming up over and over. In Holland, where gay marriage is legalized, the substance abuse problems are still the same. If they suffer from depression, why can't they take prescription medication instead?

Lindstrom #fundie christianforums.com

If the placebo effect can cure a person why cant it make a person ill.

I am not a strong fan of modern medical science.

Not at all?

To me it feels that you get to the hospital inorder for the doctor to force one's deseases upon the patint.

So while most argue that a person goes to the hospital becuase he is ill and wants to be cured.

I argue that a person goes to the hospital becaues he believes he is ill and then through a placebo effect becomes ill because of the doctors assumptions of what deasease the symthoms might fill up to.

When a persos fills diffrent symthoms of something. A placebo effect is caused for the patint, that causes the patient to become ill. But not until the doctor starts trating the preassumed illness.

This is marly hypothitical.

Open for debate.


lets take it once more:

If the placebo effect can cure a person, why cant it make a person ill?

Why do you get ill?

I prefer the healing power of Jesus.

All that is required is some faith

YourChild #fundie christianforums.com

If you are one of those that doubt the existence of the devil then let me start off by saying that the devil is real and he is sly... so slick that he has deceived you into doubting his existence! The devil is a deceiver and he is so smooth at shoving thoughts into our heads that a lost soul without God in his/her life will not be able to discern between their own thoughts, and those from the devil. I will show you what I have experienced and you will judge for yourself, the validity of the existence of the devil. If you conclude that the devil exist then you surely cannot doubt the existence of God. There is good and there is evil.
[...]
This right here is called logismoi. It is the process where your thoughts do not originate from you...they originate from the devil. The devil can put thoughts into your head and is always trying to tear you apart.
[...]
The devil hates you and he wants you to be depressed, down, sad, lonely, rejected...he wants you to always think that you cannot make it, you're unworthy, you're a reject, you're weak, you're hopeless, no one likes you....all these thoughts are from the devil!!!

Gottservant #fundie christianforums.com

"You are guilty of mutation, but the power of Jesus can take it away"

When you mutate it is because you did not believe in Jesus, the One by whom all things exist and are created (John 1:3). If you had believed in Jesus you would be able to exist without needing to mutate. Neither would you attempt to mutate because you would be living as you were designed to live.

The bible records many cases where the power of Jesus overcame the results of mutations, even the very doubt associated with mutation.

Matthew 11:4-5 records Jesus saying "Go and tell John the things which you hear and see: The blind see and the lame walk; [...] the deaf hear [...]"

Matthew 12:13 records "Then He said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." And he stretched it out, and it was restored as whole as the other."

Matthew 15:30 records "Then great multitudes came to Him, having with them the lame, blind, mute, maimed, and many others; and they laid them down at Jesus' feet, and He healed them."

Only the Devil would want these people to remain disabled and less than the best that they could be. Only someone who rejected God's power to heal would say "those people should be deformed" and do nothing to help them.

The power of Jesus is there to be discovered by everyone. Jesus said in John 16:24 "Until now you have asked nothing in My name. Ask, and you will receive, that your joy may be complete". If you have mutations that you don't want, Jesus has made it possible to be rid of them!

Lindstrom #fundie christianforums.com

[Lindstrom, do you have a personal grudge against doctors?]

I got a personal grudge agaist medical science.

Think about it they use nitroglycerine to prevent heart attacks.

It is nitroglycerine.

I can make bombs out of it.

I don't like that idea.

They cure cancer with radiation which comes from substances similar to the active ingreidence of a atombomb.

And when they do not manage to heal a person, which most often are made bacause of the placebo effect togather with the treatment. And the person dies.

All the doctors say... opps they died.

Jesus can for sure treat illness.

He can cure.

A doctor is a modern sorcerer... Nothing else

Oncedeceived #fundie christianforums.com

You know you are an evolutionist when you:

Mix clay and rocks and watch for a human to form.

think that B must follow A but then think that it can only be true if A is true; but wait a minute is true true?

think that a model kind of says that 50% of gophers will be digested and turn into hawks, in a way.

Well anyway....your turn

YourChild #fundie christianforums.com

My intention of this blog is to prove to you that the devil does exist. If you are one of those that doubt the existence of the devil then let me start off by saying that the devil is real and he is sly... so slick that he has deceived you into doubting his existence! The devil is a deceiver and he is so smooth at shoving thoughts into our heads that a lost soul without God in his/her life will not be able to discern between their own thoughts, and those from the devil. I will show you what I have experienced and you will judge for yourself, the validity of the existence of the devil. If you conclude that the devil exist then you surely cannot doubt the existence of God. There is good and there is evil.
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But after some time, something weird started happening. As you can see, my heart was all for Christ...but something wasn't right with me. Something evil was happening to me and I didn't know why. Suddenly my mind was raining storms of cuss words...cussing words directed at my Lord Jesus Christ! I was mentally cursing at Jesus inside my head while my heart was on fire for Him!! But HOW??? How can this be? How can I be mentally cursing at someone I truly love? But that was not all. There was more. I also heard me cursing at my own self inside my head. FOR CRYING OUTLOUD, I WAS MENTALLY AND INVOLUNTARILY CURSING AT MYSELF! I was shocked. It didn't make any sense! I started to get scared. I didn't know what was happening to me.

So how do you explain this? I'll tell you how. The devil was angry because I had given my life to Christ. It was the devil throwing his fiery darts at me!!! Ya you read me right!!! This right here is called logismoi. It is the process where your thoughts do not originate from you...they originate from the devil.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

Creation science is science that verifys that our Bible is true.
It started out as Languistics, then went into geology, moved into archeology, now population genetics is becoming very popular.

If it were not for creation science you would not have linguistics, geology and archeology as you do today.
As well as many other branches of science that have historically been heavily influence by creation science.

It is only now as we enter into the great apostasy that there has been a division.
So we will clearly see who is approved by God and who is not approved.

People may not be able to see that now, but they will before it is all over.
There will be no confusion as to who is with God and who is not with God.

A lot of the people here will become defenders of the faith. Even if they are confused about it now.
They have a deep desire to get it right and that causes them to have to question everything they were taught.

Voegelin #fundie christianforums.com

(Carter also went forward with the development and production of improved . . . As for giving away the Panama Canal, have US ships ever not been able to use the Canal?)

So we can use the Panana canal. Big deal. Giving it away along with dumping the Shah encouraged Soviet expansionism in Central American and Afghanistan--the latter of which spawned Al Qaeda.

Carter gutted the CIA and FBI counterintelligence. Over 2,000 agents were purged. KGB generals could not believe their good fortune. European intelligence agencies seriously considered that Carter was a Soviet mole. The Carter/Church/Democratic Congress destruction of U.S. Intel was directly responsible for the USA not being able to stop the 9/11 raid on New York City.

dad #fundie christianforums.com

[Is heven (sic) on top of the big cloud made of gold?]

No, it is on top of earth, and is about the size of the moon. An interesting fact is that this moon sized object of gold will land on earth. If a moon tried it now, gravity would exist, and we would be wiped out good and proper. Heavens, imagine the tides even?! That means that gravity, as we know it, just will not apply. Neither of course will decay.
Our present state of the universe, and laws of physics will be no more. That is real science 101. This is a temporary universal state.

dad #fundie christianforums.com

[The sun is a mass of incandescent gas
A gigantic nuclear furnace
Where Hydrogen is built into Helium
At a temperature of millions of degrees]

Funny, aren't helium and hydrogen next to each other on the periodic table? Seperated by a tiny atomic difference, the kind of differences that the big universal change ate for breakfast.
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[The sun is so hot that everything on it is a gas
Aluminum, Copper, Iron, and many others]

Not for long, the spiritual eternal elements will also be there, bringing all the physical things into their proper little original place.

[Scientists have found that the sun is a huge atom smashing machine
The heat and light of the sun are caused by nuclear reactions between
Hydrogen, Nitrogen, Carbon, and Helium]

At the moment, it may be like an atomic smash up derby, but soon, it will whir into perfect harmony.

Prophetboy #fundie christianforums.com

i have had many of my threads and posts removed.. They do not like the TRUTH on this site. Time is short. i will go where at least they listen.

Bush is the the antichrist. America is Mystery Babylon the great. 911 was an inside job carried out by the fourth reich, used to start world war three, under the guise of, Bushes never ending war OF terror. Satan set up current day Apostate Israel. God is about to destroy it. 70 ad was just a picnic compared to what God is about to do to them via his seven Angels.

i will not post again. i has asked themto delete my password


Wakey Wakey.

farewell

One of God's two witnesses of Revelation.

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