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ProxyMusic #interphobia

CAIS = Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome. You’d think the name would be a hint.

Incidentally it’s also considered a form of intersex.

Jesse Lee Peterson #racist #wingnut

This is the version of Critical Race Theory put forward by Chris Rufo: Some white people in the past did a bad, so white kids today would have a sad. Therefore we must protect the kiddies by rewriting history, and then accuse anyone who corrects us of being the real history rewriters. Which is not remotely a new idea, because conservatives rarely come up with anything original.

Boris Korchevnikov #elitist #fundie #crackpot #psycho #wingnut

“The dog runs for its dinner; the rabbit runs for its life.” Russia is not the rabbit in this situation.

@DragonKitigan #transphobia

You know, for awhile there was a straight version of those hashtags - #TomboyGenocide. The root of this is the idea that big pharma or the church of woke or whoever is transing the gender nonconforming - tomboys, femboys, butch dykes, twinks - leaving fewer of those people in their related subcultures (or fewer of them to serve as fetish objects). The “death” here is metaphorical, but meant to imply that their absence hurts.

Which is kind of dumb. Trans people who had no hope of transition sometimes took up gender non-conforming identities as a sort of compromise; most of them never truly belonged. And it’s not like those identities are shrinking much if at all; the trans people who never truly belonged are being replaced by people who in the past wouldn’t have dared to claim those identities.

I can sort of understand “losing” a celebrity who was an icon for your identity (for example, the way Elliot Page was for some lesbians), or on a smaller scale, a local community leader, but that still strikes me as rather shallow. There’s a person behind the icon, and people can change.

CPAC #psycho #racist #wingnut #mammon

Most of the “America First” types were cheering on both of the Iraq wars, so their isolationism, if genuine, is weirdly narrow in definition and focus. (I suspect that at least some of them are not genuine and are actually just pro-Russia.)

Servant of the Lord #fundie #conspiracy #crackpot

Bad dreams are normally reflections of your personal anxieties and/or fears, not reality. On the occasions where they do reflect reality, it’s either because it turns out your anxieties and/or fears were justified, or because your subconscious noticed something which your conscious mind failed to (or rejected so hard that you forgot). However, all of them, even particularly vivid ones, are generally wrong - and when they’re right, they’re sometimes right for the wrong reasons.

Like, even if your child does randomly turn into a cyborg or whatever that’s a subconscious metaphor for, the fact that it’s not visibly or significantly happening to other people makes it an extremely weak reason to blame vaccines.

International Chrysotile Association #dunning-kruger #mammon #pratt #crackpot

I had to look this up to make sure there’s actually something wrong with this (geology/mineralogy isn’t an area where I know much) and yep, there totally is.

Asbestos specifically refers to a type of rock (technically, “mineral” refers to a pure or near-pure substance, while “rock” is a mixed substance) which is high in chrysotile. The [formerly] commercially useful form of asbestos has a fiberglass-like structure and was used for the same purposes, but unlike fiberglass it’s prone to crumbling into lung-shredding glass dust, which is why it’s no longer used. Also, the chrysotile *is* the primarily damaging part of that dust.

There *are* some safe uses for pure chrysotile, but it requires using (or converting it to) a different form which cannot meaningfully be called “asbestos”. And some of the even older uses of asbestos/chrysotile weren’t actually safe, but nobody really noticed because very few people were exposed to it to any significant degree. So basically this is all semantics, and dangerously incorrect semantics at that.

Connie Johnson Waterman #wingnut

I’m wondering what you think counts as “moderate”. The moderate left, most centrists, and even at least a little of the moderate right don’t have much of an issue with trans people living their lives anymore, it’s just that some of them might be okay with throwing trans people halfway under the bus for another generation if it means that people like you will shut up about it. Anyone who’s been paying attention to politics in recent years knows damn well that you probably wouldn’t shut up until you either get your whole agenda forced through or you’re crushed utterly.

Genetic Error #racist #sexist

Samuel Alito #wingnut #elitist #dunning-kruger #god-complex #quack

Oh, I have no doubt that Alito himself has “integrity”, from a certain perspective. He’s hardly been secretive about his beliefs, or that given a chance, he would elevate them above popularity, practicality, and jurisprudence. So he’s honest, consistent, and walks the walk, which is a valid concept of “having integrity”.

The court itself is another matter. Upending long-standing precedents based on the whims of a shrinking minority, bringing chaos to the legal system as a result, isn’t “integrity” by any stretch of the imagination.

Edward Menez #racist #fundie #crackpot #conspiracy

I wonder. Why does the bible “state 30 times” that the Earth doesn’t move? I suspect that it doesn’t really say it that many times (though I may be wrong, it’s been a long time since I read it) but rather the majority of those 30 times are just passages taken as evidence that it doesn’t move by people who don’t want to believe that it does.

Regardless, taking it at face value, why would it be needed to be stated so many times? Were there ancient Middle Eastern astronomers who suspected or even proved that the Earth was spinning? That would be an interesting historical footnote if so.

Taki #wingnut #racist #sexist #elitist

My suggestion is that American ladies all become lesbians and get it over with.

Pretending to be a lesbian or actually being a lesbian is no protection from being aggressively being hit on by unhygienic losers (regardless of penis size) who, in my experience, are very rarely liberals, despite your insinuations. So being a mix of smarmy, patronizing, and incorrect, why should any woman (or anyone) care to listen to you?

Got Questions #fundie #enbyphobia #transphobia

@Vgal #142396

More specifically: There’s gender (who you are), gender identity (who you would openly exist as, given any choice in the matter), gender presentation (how you dress/act relative to your culture’s gender norms), gender role (how you participate in family/culture/society relative to gender norms). Though the first two and last two are often conflated, and traditional conservatives conflate all four as one and the same.

Gender norms aren’t actually bad, per se. While they’re ultimately arbitrary, some people do function better when given a clear “default” template to build on or change if needed, rather than to figure themselves out from scratch. The problem is when you censor and punish alternatives. Of course, being arbitrary, there’s no reason why we should allow tradcons to bake gender supremacy into it. Or for that matter, there’s no reason beyond bioessentialism and/or gender supremacy why there has to be only two sets of norms.

(Yeah, I know that they’re going to claim that bioessentialism and gender supremacy are God’s will. I assume that most or all of us here live in secular societies where that’s not a useful argument.)

gender-reality is looked upon with disdain,

As usual, you misunderstand. No one is going to look down on you for engaging in “classical” gender presentation, however you conceptualize that. No one is going to look down on you for having the gender which matches your birth sex. What people *will* look down on you for is trying to police other people for those things.

Yes, I’m aware that your version of Christianity says that you must police other people’s choices and behavior, even if they’re not of your religion. You can still do that, *to a point*, it’s just that the cost for doing so is now harsher and more obvious.

Richard Hanania #ableist #dunning-kruger #elitist #homophobia #pratt

real_feminist & madderthanhell #transphobia

Too conservative in the areas which matter most to liberals, too liberal in the areas which matter most to conservatives, too radical for centrists, you have no real place in the political landscape. I’d find that sort of situation sad and sympathetic in the abstract, but when your main shtick is speaking on behalf of a broader group who mostly doesn’t want you speaking for them and oppressing a minority, you’ve lost me.

Mike Adams the Health Ranger #wingnut #psycho #conspiracy

Okay, I found the source of this stupidity (though I wasn’t specifically looking for it). Friedrich Merz, the leader of Germany’s Christian Democratic Union Party, stated that “September 24th” would be a day to remember. He misspoke; he meant to say “February 24th”, the day Russia invaded Ukraine. There was rampant speculation among Q-anoners what was going to happen today, and at some point, some of these idiots decided that it was actually a reference to a recent Simpsons episode (Season 24, episode 9) which involved survivalists preparing for the end of the world, and WWIII flowed from that. In case you needed more reminder how fucked in the head some of these people are.

NATO leaders are openly demanding the complete destruction of Russia and the occupation / exploitation of Russia’s natural resources,

Citation needed. I’m guessing that this is either propaganda (either from the Russian government, or from you) or it’s a severe distortion of what one person said.

Erich von Däniken #dunning-kruger #conspiracy #pratt #crackpot

You aren’t even talking about evolution. You’re talking about physics and biochemistry. With physics, we know that we still haven’t discovered a model which perfectly lines up with everything, and with biochemistry, well, that leans heavily on physics. Regardless, “intelligent design” is not an answer, it’s a reason to stop looking for answers. And not even a very good reason.

mathlover & WholeGrain #transphobia

I checked and it turns out that “L with the T” is a London-based organization founded in 2018 and run by lesbian allies. It’s about showing solidarity and countering the messages put out by UK TERFs, not about feeding cis lesbian victims to trans women predators, or whatever they’re imagining.

Various commenters #wingnut

I mean, they might “win” in a small number of highly theocratic nations (by preserving laws and traditions which always existed there), and if micronations and special autonomous providences become more common, they might be able to migrate to those, but despite the current political situations in the US and Poland the general social trend is still going the other way, even within those countries.

Also, given that anti-abortionists are almost entirely conservative, and conservatives tend to support all of those “wrong side of history” things mentioned above (inb4 they claim the Nazis or 1800s Democrats were left-wing) [edit: oh wait they already did the latter], either this bunch is very unusual or they’re being disingenuous.

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@cejacksonlaw #enbyphobia #transphobia

I’m going to guess that this is the same sort of black-and-white thinking that fuels a lot of biphobia: You’re either gay or straight, no in between (not that most bi people see themselves as “in between”, exactly). You’re either “normal” or trans, no in between… but after that they conflate transgender and transhuman and display a general hostility to non-cis identities, so I’m not sure what’s going on there.

Parents with Inconvenient Truths About Trans #transphobia #conspiracy

Trans activists and older trans women are often the source of the information our boys get online about all things trans.

Who else would you expect them to get it from? People who make random shit up? Like you? Oh okay I get it now.

Rod Fleming #sexist #transphobia

Because it needs to be restated every now and again: AGP (Autogynophilia) is not a medical diagnosis. Rather it conceptually exists for the sole purpose to shoehorn into circular logic arguments: AGP only makes sense from the perspective that the person in question is a man (otherwise a lot of cis women also have AGP, suggesting that those women are also men), so that a “diagnosis” of AGP allows one to conclude that someone is a man based on the premise that they are a man.

“Autoandrophobia” is a similar circular-logic enabler, with the main difference is that the supposed effect comes from without rather than within (or at least, I’ve never seen anyone blame AGP on society or the media). But regardless, citation fucking needed. You need to prove it exists in a meaningful fashion, otherwise it’s speculation, not evidence. Also circular logic arguments are pretty useless, so you would need to find a way to move beyond that as well.

National Socialist Movement #dunning-kruger #racist

If I were inclined to pick my partners based on appearance, and not personality traits (submissiveness being the main one) then I’d tend to go for mixed-race people, personally, despite being white myself. But I don’t, because honestly I consider appearance to be largely irrelevant. Hell, despite being straight-ish, even physical sex or gender doesn’t matter all that much. I don’t understand that sort of superficiality even when someone isn’t mistaking their own preference for a universal one.

divinedionne #transphobia #enbyphobia #fundie #pratt

You’re conflating “woman” with “femininity”. Not everyone does this, and not all women identify as feminine. Tomboys and butches exist.

Energy Enhancement Director SATCHIDANAND #crackpot #fundie #magick #quack

This is like someone took just about every single spirituality-related woo, some random alchemy concepts, and put them in a blender along with their brain and set it to “liquefy”.

Visita Interiore Terrae Rectificando Invenies Occultem Lapidem

My Latin is not the best, so I used Google Translate just in case. It says “by visiting the interior of the earth you will find a hidden stone”, which is pretty much what I thought. Why anyone would think someone hid this phrase as the older term for Sulfuric Acid baffles me.

Tommy Truthful TV #crackpot #wingnut #quack #conspiracy #fundie #magick

a 5G/6G wireless network!

Let me stop you right there. There is no 6G. It’s not even on the horizon. There are even people who don’t believe it will ever exist, or at least never see common use, due to the physics issues involved. It’s not that it couldn’t be done technologically, we could make such a thing right now, it’s just that each Generation drastically shortens the useful range. We’d have to have like one 6G antenna every other city block or something stupid like that (I forget the details). Also, we’ve barely even begun to tap the potential of 5G as it is.

radbelinda #transphobia #fundie #pratt #conspiracy

Agree on the #conspiracy, as this is right up there with “treat black people as human, and the Jews take over”.

Tartaria Biblical Research #crackpot #conspiracy #fundie #wingnut #homophobia #dunning-kruger

What? Did Satan spin the sphere of the fixed stars really fast to fool astronomers into not noticing that 430 fewer years have passed than they were recording all that time? Also, your math is off. It would be 530 years.

I’m sorry, how is anyone supposed to “learn” anything from this? I only understood half of what you’re getting at, and only because I’m reasonably well-versed in brain-meltingly stupid conspiracy theories. How is the average person, which you seem to be implying this is written for, supposed to make any sense of it?

SovereignLightWarrior #crackpot #conspiracy #wingnut #racist #fundie

If you’re going to appropriate Babylonian myth and/or religion, can you at least be less annoyingly idiotic about it? And why are you even bringing Latin into this? They’re not even from the same era!

Dennis Prager #dunning-kruger #elitist #wingnut

I’m not sure what to make of this ramble. I’ve heard variations of “everyone is special in their own way” from liberals (as a means of celebrating diversity as much as a means of encouragement) and “my child is special because [whatever]” from conservatives as a means of fluffing their own egos (and sometimes that of the child as well), but I’ve never heard of “the world is better because you are in it”, which seems like a weird thing to tell a child. An adult who is exceptionally kind, maybe.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with American Exceptionalism, which I think you are referring to in a half-remembered way. People who are against American Exceptionalism are calling for humility and railing against predatory attitudes towards other nations.

Khem Veasna #fundie

a “black hole” in his spine

I wondered if this made vaguely more sense in the original Khmer, in a woo-ish way, or if it’s just as stupid as it sounds in English. But no. He actually uses the English term “black hole” here instead of some Khmer equivalent, which somehow seems weirder.

@Serena_Partrick #transphobia

There is such a thing as in-group language. That’s not a literally a separate language but a collection of terminology which are often difficult for outsiders to understand, but used for the ease of communicating complex ideas which are important to the group… or to reinforce “proper” lines of thinking. It usually includes normal words which are used differently than the general public does. We’ve seen a lot of it here from various toxic groups - for example, incels use words like “Blackpill”, “Mog”, “Maxxing”, and “Stacy”.

If TERFs want to use “woman” to mean “cis woman only” or an even narrower definition, so long as they keep the conversation in-group, there’s not a whole lot we can (or should) do about it. However, this person is essentially claiming that their in-group consists of “all women” by their definition of woman (it doesn’t, you don’t speak for me or most of the women I know) and that the general public should be forced to use their in-group language - if you understood the implications, you wouldn’t want to go there, unless you’re pleading for special language privileges, in which case no TERFy that’s a bad TERFy.

David Hayes (the Praying Medic) #wingnut

Even if Biden was somehow illegitimate and Trump was the actual elected, it would still be a coup. The definition of “coup” as most people use it doesn’t make any distinctions about legitimacy.

Also, even if there *was* massive vote fraud, the fraud was not uncovered before congress affirmed the results, so Biden is the legitmate president even if it were uncovered later. The only remedy would be to impeach him, and congress would only have real cause to do so if it were proven that he was involved in the fraud (and not merely a beneficiary). Even then, that wouldn’t make Trump president, because he’s not in the line of succession.

The minuscule fraud which has been uncovered in the past 2 years were all done by Republicans and wouldn’t have changed any major election, so…

Bennett Lee Ross #crackpot #conspiracy #ufo #magick

We do not have government representative of the people
We have the illusion of a government that is representative of the people

True enough in some countries, though it’s rarely a very good illusion. But I suspect your ideas of what the majority of people want/need are far enough removed from reality that this line is just as much of a non-sequitur as the rest of the poem.

Various commenters #transphobia

Abusing your child in hopes that they will conform to your imaginary version of them never ends well for anyone.

Also, a cell phone is basically a necessity these days. I don’t have kids so I’m not sure what age they should typically have their first one, but they do need one if you can afford it. Otherwise you’re stunting their current and future life.

Sierra #sexist #psycho #pratt

One of the reason why we have “arbitrary” legal dividing lines in general because the world is full of delusional fools and bad-faith actors pretending to be delusional fools who “understand” other people’s thoughts and actions better than they do themselves… and as a result abuse others and blame them for their abuse. It’s not possible to draw such dividing lines for everything, nor is that always an effective or appropriate approach, but it does cut off some of the worst nonsense in situations where the only way to know the truth for certain is to develop psychic powers and mindrape the hell out of both the alleged victim and perpetrator. It becomes a much simpler matter of “Did you go over the clearly defined line? If so, you *do* know (or should have known) the consequences…”

ropecel #sexist #psycho

In regards to “in Minecraft” thing, I don’t find it any more amusing when our side uses “with votes” similarly.

But yeah, if you’re not the sort of “incel” who realizes how horrid most of the people on incel sites are fairly quickly and nopes out to somewhere less toxic, then it soon becomes less about sex for you and more about “revenge” for lack of sex.

Ken Valencia Peters #fundie #wingnut #sexist #psycho

They’re kind of like the cenobites from Hellraiser. Except said cenobites only go after those who want to suffer, deep down. These people are much more indiscriminate.

yarou #sexist #psycho

More proof that most incels don’t even care about other men/boys, just coming up with the worst possible justifications for getting their dicks wet.

SomeOrdinaryGamers #dunning-kruger #pratt #wingnut

Hey, if KF has the right to ruin people’s lives, then people have an equal right to ruin KF. It’s only fair.

mathlover #transphobia

Temporarily giving puberty blockers only fuels a child's false hope that they could ever change sex.

*What* false hope? Or rather, what *false* hope?

By the time they’ve turned 18, trans kids know that you can’t *entirely* change sex under current medical technology - at least not by a simplified, reductionist idea of biological sex. The best one can currently do by that standard is a pseudo-intersex state, which externally appears like that of the opposite sex. But, that’s still a major improvement in quality of life for the vast majority of trans people, and medical technology continues to improve… not to mention that there exist nonbinary trans people for whom some kind of pseudo-intersex state is pretty much what they want, anyway. Hope is not false if a positive outcome is achievable, even if it doesn’t look exactly like you think it would.

Judy Byington #conspiracy #wingnut #crackpot

I think, being generous here, they’re claiming that Q said something vaguely described would happen “in 2274 days”, and that it adds up that 2274 days ends up being Jan 19, 2024. If so, and the math is accurate, then it’s not a coincidence that after 2274 days, the calendar date of Jan 19, 2024 would occur, because obviously that particular date had to have been chosen in order to get the number 2274. Given that this was apparently meant to be the last day of Trump’s second term, and most Qanons have admitted that things haven’t quite gone the way they were “supposed” to, I’m surprised any of them even consider a vague, 5-year-old prediction of events still 2½ years in the future to be of current relevance. Then again they’re not really right in the head, so I shouldn’t be.

Owen Waters #crackpot #ufo #magick

I think your problem here is that you believe all forms of energy take the form of waves, which is the premise which lead to aether theory in the first place. But one of the issues with quantum mechanics is that in most cases one can only ask questions which can only be answered as “yes” or “no”. And sometimes, the question you might be asking might not quite be the same thing as the one you think you’re asking. The answer to the question “is light a particle” turns out to be yes. And the answer to the question “is light a wave” is also yes. However, what scientists were *really* asking was “does light have the basic properties which we, accurately or not, ascribe to the concepts of ‘particle’ and/or ‘wave’?” So it’s clear that it is something else which is sort of neither and both, and does not require a physical medium for its wave-like properties. (That being said, the so-called “quantum fields” may be a non-physical medium¹ of some sort, or they may not be, as they only really exist in physics as a mathematical abstraction.)

¹Non-physical in the sense that they’re not composed of particles, and aside from the Higgs field, lack any direct ties to mass.

Just because aether theory seems nice and neat to you and you don’t understand quantum mechanics doesn’t make the former objectively better.

Every-Man-His-Own-Football #transphobia

How often does that (“peak trans”) happen in real life, though? I mean, I’ve seen a few TERFs claim they were hesitatingly supportive of trans people until [severe exaggeration or outright lie] happened, but that doesn’t seem to occur all that often even in TERF circles. And they seem just as delusional and/or insincere as those “my family was Jewish but I left the faith when I found that the pastries served at religious events were FULL OF BLOOD” Nazis or the “I was a liberal until I found that other liberals were narcissistic Satan worshippers” Republicans.

Metropolitan Dodonis Chrysostomos #sexist #fundie

It should be noted that while his former church (he retired in 2011) made no real comment on his views on abortion, they really, really don’t like his views on rape. To the point where pretty much everyone with any real rank in the Greek Synod has condemned his commentary as vile or even heretical. Not mentioned above is the part where he said that women don’t get pregnant unless they want to. It’s also been noted that, during his time as a bishop, he was kind of crappy with men too, sometimes mocking them for not being manly enough.

Donald J Trump & Various commenters #wingnut

Trump has been, since his announcement for president, the most persecuted human being that I am aware of,

You misspelled “prosecuted”.

@Woman4W #transphobia

Dismissive framing aside, it’s basically true? If an AMAB person wasn’t trans, they’d be a cis man. Obviously. That’s how it works. Not sure why you think this is a gotcha.

[Edit] This is assuming that a person could be divested from their defining traits, including ones like “trans” or “black”. Were this somehow possible, it’s extremely questionable whether you could call them the same person. If you couldn’t, then this is just pointless pedagogy anyway.

GraceHoward1729 #transphobia

My response to the first part was going to be:

General Public: [Looks at TERF strawman army, then looks at actual trans people] “Uhhh… No? I haz the confuse.”
Tradcons: “That’s cute. Look, we’ll indulge you so long as you eventually go back to submitting to the patriarchy.”
2nd Wave TERFs: “Uhhh… should we take that deal and backstab them later? Because it *is* that important to us…”

But the rest of it somehow goes even more off the rails, and honestly, I’m kind of impressed by the sheer schizophrenic dumbassery. And by “impressed” I mean “revolted”.