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loveshinesthru #fundie

Another ‘Christains Are ‘Florida Man' post.’
I mean, the rapture comes. The saints have been chose. God will call up the most holy and most pious among men to come to Heaven.
But when the trumpet sounds, Florida Man pauses to grab his can of dip, or his Doberman, and misses his chance?

Jason Lisle #fundie

“Why in the secular worldview should we suppose that our mind has the capacity to be rational?”
Computers, airplanes, the moon landings, pretty much ‘results.’

“Rationality involves choice; we consciously consider the various options and then choose the best.”
You can define rationality the same way twice in a row and wonder if we’re capable of rationality?

“But in the secular worldview, the brain is simply chemistry – and chemistry has no choice.”
Citation needed.

“Chemicals always react according to prescribed laws of nature.”
Yes, as do computers. They can process lots of variables, though.

“In the secular worldview, there is no more reason to trust a human brain than there is to trust in reading tea leaves”
Which is why we have peer review and other processes to remove individual bias.

“Both are just the inevitable result of chemical reactions.”
And yet, we still made it to the moon and back.

GeneNowok #fundie

“Atheists r people who do not love logic”
Meh. Don’t have to be.

“because 4 me it's not logical 2 think that something as complex as universe and life in it - that works precisely according 2 laws of mathematics, physics, etc. like in a clockwork - was created by itself and by chance in that.”
But you’re okay with GOD just coming into existence, perfect from the start?

"And scientists cannot create even the simplest living organism in their laboratories, like a bacterium 4 instance. so tell me, how did living matter originate from non-living one?”
Slowly and over far greater periods of time than have been spent researching it…yet.

“Also by pure chance? Dont make me laugh!”
Argument from complexity fallacy isn’t terribly compelling. I wouldn’t want you to laugh, but to cringe and cry in shame.

CH #sexist

“Contra the ACLU, the Pill did none of those things”
You really want to argue that the Pill does NOT allow women to choose when and whether to have kids? I think you’d be better off stipulating those results but claiming ‘but the cost of these advances is high.’

There is a mortality rate for pregnancy. Just getting preggers can kill women. So your claim that birth control doesn’t keep women healthy is a lie right off th e bat.

"while pursuing a useless paper pushing career”
I take it you’ve never had to solve a problemover the phone wiht a paper pusher? If not for birth control, only a fraction of those operators would be available, so the wait lines would be unfathomable.

“ and putting off marriage and childbirth until it was too late and then bitching and moaning about “the patriarchy” in online femcunt ghettoes.”
All from the Pill, huh? Wow.

“The Pill was really nothing more than a means for women to ignore beta males during their prime vagina years”
And you’re bitter that they have the audacity not to sleep with your sexist ass, huh?

“which meant it was nothing less than a cataclysmic rupture of the sexual market with evolutionary consequences we are only just beginning to understand.”
Dude, you still wouldn’t get laid in a marriage-based economy.

RedJack #fundie

“Three laws of Thermodynamics (note, LAWS, not theory”
Laws are just very specific applications where we feel confident we can predict how matter and energy interact. What would a LAW of evolution state?

"Evolution says order came from chaos,”
Evolution, and basic biology, state that there is some order amongst the backdrop of greater chaos.

" and order is ever increasing.”
Really? How do you measure ‘order,’ you think?

“Thermo says that order is ever decaying.”
Overall, yes. Of course, if the laws of thermodynamics could prevent ALL order from increasing, a fertilized egg would never become a multicellular fetus, right?

luvsall #fundie

“To all nonbelievers”
Yo.
“lurkers, mockers”
One.

“bookmark this site, because you're going to need it for instruction and guidance when the great disappearance happens”
Nah. Pretty sure you guys are going to be right beside us, tearing out pages of the bible.

“(The Rapture, when Jesus Christ takes the believers home).”
The ones who actually listened to his instructions and tried to live by his rules, yeah. His socialist, mini-commune rules.
Not you.

“In fact, you might want to write the url down on paper; there will be a time when it will be illegal to visit a site like this.”
Your favorite fantasy of persecution….

“God loves you, and remember Jesus died for you just like he did for me”
Died and came back. That’s about as much sacrifice as showing a homeless man a picture of a meal.

Sriram #fundie

“Magic is still 'Magic'. You guys must admit you are stumped!”
A number of years ago, a group of magicians decided to go to Tijuana for a day. A friend decided at the last minute not to go. So the others played a trick on him.
They got a bartender to pose with a bunck of rubber bands. They said HE was a magician and one of his tricks was shotting rubber bands and they wuold roll back to him. Showed the pics to their friend who searched Tijuana for this act. that didn’t exist. That couldn’t be done.
So he went home and developed the trick. He can do it. Even explained it to his dumbfouded friends.
Stories like this make a LOT more sense to me than magic.
If magic was real, corporations would have you use it.

JoJo! #fundie

when you say you talked about EVERYTHING, there are going to be things that just weren’t ‘things’ when you were discussing pre-marriage. Did your book cover ‘how we’ll handle it when Grandma trasitions to Grandpa’?
Or what to do if one of you becomes a trumper and wears a garbage bag?

azureskys #conspiracy

“Fedral income Tax ...Is suppose to be Voluntary !!!!!”
You’re thinking of Social Security. It was intended to be voluntary. They don’t like people to know this, but it’s true.
One of our high school teachers took the city to court to prove it.

Now, the WITHOLDING is voluntary. You can get your employer to give you the money if you think you can invest it better over the year. But you will have to pay at the end of the year.
I knew a number of sailors who just asked not to pay income tax. Payroll doesn’t give a rat’s, they stopped the witholding.
Always came as a shock when they had to pay, along with the penalties and interest.

Rom831 #fundie

“where it touches on geography it is flawless”
There’s a place, biblically, where you can stand and see all the nations of the world. Where is that at?

“where it touches on biology it is flawless”
What breed of goat has striped kids if they look at striped sticks while copulating?

“where it touches on astronomy it is flawless”
Where does the Sun spend the night? Biblically, the sun gets the night off, has a little chamber it sleeps in.
Or, if the Moon is a source of light, why isn’t it ALWAYS full?

Ronna #fundie

“Then can you tell me why the Founding Fathers based the way the Constitution was drafted on THEIR CHRISTIAN BELIEFS?!?!?”
None of which showed up in the Federalist papers?
Yeah, what part of the Bible says no religious test for office?
What part of the 10C supports freedom of religion?

“This ignorant idea of separating church and state is nothing but a baseless arguement by the government members who don't want God in any aspect of our lives because it might restrict their evil inentions of ruling the human herd.”
Wasn’t the first lawsuit about CSS from Catholic parents whose kids were learning a Baptist prayer in school?
Pretty sure you’re ‘baseless’ argument is baseless…

“When any person thinks God has nothing to do with politics, which govern us as a nation, they are about a yard off the mark.”
God can do whatever he wants, obviously.
What we don’t want are people who SAY they speak for gods making decisions. Like Mormons outlawing coffee or Hindus outlawing beef.

“You don't have to go to chruch, pray, spout your feelings about it and try and cram it down everyone's neck, but to bleieve it in is not a bad thing;”
Yeah, that’s such an inquisition thing to say.

“and if you had the capacity to think for yourself instead of believing what you're told like a mindless sheep you might be able to see that.”
Been there, outgrew that.

Jedi Sapien #fundie

‘Atheist,why are you more comfy in believing that humans evolve from monkey rather than believing the concept?
of GOD create human.”
Same reason i believe anything, the offered evidence makes more sense.

“If human does evolve from monkey or ape, what happen to the other ape, why they fail to become human.”
I’m of Scottish heritage. My Scottish ancestors became Americans. What happened to the other Scots? Why are they still Scots?

" So meaning that when you look at Chimp, Orang Utan, Gorilla and etc it reflect your ancestor and it reflect you.”
There are connections, yes.

“And how many million years of evolution does it takes for those ape/monkey to evolve into a modern human”
You can look it up, there are timelines EVERYWHERE.

Viola Eisener #wingnut #racist #homophobia #transphobia

"The Democrats could not do that in nearly 4 years”
Because the ‘head honcho’ you support has made sure the GOP fought at every step to keep Biden from any great and noticable successes.
He doesn’t care about you, just about himself.

mr_drummie #fundie

“do you know why we suffer?
suffering brings you closer to God.”
Why worship a being that uses YOUR suffering for HIS agenda?
Would you give your kid scars in the hopes of a promotion?

“he said
Do not be violent
and we did not listen.”
Okay, if i told my kids ONCE to stop fighting, then did nothing as they beat each other to death, it’d be negligence.

“he lets men starve beacuse”
Because a demigod went hungry.

SaurfangtheElder #psycho

“I could see myself becoming violent in such a situation, not because I'm evil inside, but through sheer curiosity”
Curiosity about violence. You went straight to the violence. This is not a good look.

I’d have taken the gun, first, and fired it into the floor just so no one else could shoot it.

Then probably tried to get a reaction from her. Tickling or teasing.

Oboehner #fundie

“Gravity is observable,”
We can observe things that we attribute to gravity, but we don’t actually observe ‘gravity.’

“testable, repeatable, why don't you show me the "common ancestor" evolving into something?”
somehow i don’t think you’re demanding evidence in good faith.

“Atheism is a belief system like any other religion, one cannot prove there is no God, one has faith there isn't.”
What’s this ‘system’, then? What else MUST i believe as an ahteist beyond “I don’t believe in any gods”? Therea re no sects to atheism.

“It is funny how you try to apply the title of 'science' to attack things, though, or how you attempt to lump your religion with real science.”
You’re the one calling it a religion, a PRATT.

We see the hawthorne fruit fly evolving today. Observed evolution. Where's the evidence for creation?

"Wow, quite the example of evolution - I can barely type I'm laughing so hard!!”
You mock, because you lack any actual argument to offer.

“A cow never evolved to anything other than a cow, bacteria is always bacteria, jokes on you.”
Citation needed. How in the hell would you PROVE that nothing ever evolved into a different species?

“A total lack of proof is all I need to know evolutionism is nothing more than a blind faith religion.”
Your inability to open books and read the evidence is not a winning argument.

Liz Wheeler #forced-birth #fundie #wingnut

“Our primary political duty is to protect the dignity of human life, made in God’s image.”
So, the million Americans that died because Trump blew off experts on the pandemic, they died with dignity on the ventilators?
Or without ventilators, because Trump stole them?
Or died without proper testing because Trump didn’t like the numbers?
Your rationalizing your misogyny and doing a poor job at it.

Jake Paul #wingnut

“This election is good vs evil”
Trump wants to hand the FDA over to an anti-vaxxer who wants to ban mayonnaise. Not just warning labels, “9 out of 10 people who suffer from brain worms think this shit’ll kill you.” But all the way to banning it from the jump. And Trump’ll let him because he doesn’t give a shit about anything but him NOT going to PRISON.

WingedPegasus #fundie

“You have the ancient pig's teeth”
A fossil.
Misidentified by scientist.
AND correctly identified by another scientist. So, we still have the fossil.

“the bones of an old man with a rickets that made his skeleton look ape-like,”
No, that’s a lie flogged by someone dishonestly.

“chemically treated skulls that have teeth plugged with bubble gum”
Just making shit up, now.

“and millions of MISSING transitional skeletons that should be all over the earth.”
All fossils are transitional fossils, get it right.

“Somehow I doubt the validity of Darwin's theories.”
Well, you had to start there to pick THESE examples rather than the huge pile of pro-evolution fossils. I doubt your doubt is honest.

ThickGreenPuke #fundie

“Atheists claim themselves to be anti-Christian”
No, it’s Christains who insist Atheists are anti-Christain. Get it right.

“yet they follow beliefs that arose from Christianity(i.e. current idea of God,”
Do we FOLLOW that belief, or just use that form of God when arguing against you?

“humanism”
I don’t think humanism comes from Christainity, but what if it did?
We don’t believe your god exists. So anything ‘attributed’ to your god is just something else men came up with.
So it’s not a big deal if we adopt what works from you guys, we just don’t lie about the sponsor.

“individualism and even rationalism”
From Christainity? Citation needed.

“ And rather than going in the direction of truth they have gone in the exact opposite direction.”
Which as near as we can tell, is the truthy truth.

Amazinggrace #fundie

“I have two cousins autistic …from vaccinations.”

For this to be at ALL credible, you’d have to show that the cousins were tested for autism before getting vaccinated, and found clear, and show their being tested again post-shot, and suddenly a positive result.
And that’s still not completel y convincing as misdaignosing is a thing.

But the thing is, people don’t GET tested for autism unless they suspect autism. So you’d have to include the totally innocent REASON they were tested pre-shot…
Seems unlikely.

afchief #fundie

“Evolution is science???? Don't make me laugh!!!!”
Okay.

“Evolution: In the beginning there was random chance. Explain to me HOW that is science????”
Well, ‘science’ would include an accurate description of evolution, not mockery of a lampoon.

“Darwinian evolution is a belief system based largely on faith.”
Nope. Peer review woule not work if you had to select reviewers that already agreed with the paper.

“It is the religion of the age”
Does anyone have a new argument against evolution?

“Professor Louis T. Moore, a vocal evolutionist,"
He’s a creationist. Swing and a miss.

AhlaamYasmina #fundie

“regarding love marriages.”
Oh, lecture me on this topic, please!

“i think it might have been extensively discussed in previous threads, but you should know love is not a factor to be considered for marriage.”
What is? Shoe size?

“think about it, if you marry a person today because you fell in love with them, what will happen when that love fades after a few years?”
Hopefully, a non-combative attempt to see what’s changed and whether it’s worth fighting for.
But more ideally, the constant process of getting to know them better and bettter and better just reinforces the love.

"or months even”
Hopefully, as above…

“will it be divorce?”
Maybe.

“insha Allah you will not be in that position. however please remember akhi, love is something you build over lifetime, maybe fast, maybe slow. And the "butterflies" that you feel for that person initially is not love.”
Oh, go fuck a fire hydrant. I have been faithfully married since 1987 and i STILL get butterflies.

danieljknight #fundie

“Why do these atheists keep talking about the big bang”
The Big Bang is not an atheist issue.
If you can’t grasp the science any better than ‘it don’t match Genesis’ than sit down and shut up.

“as if it is fact”
You mean the best supported theory of science so far?

“when repeated studies show that it could not have happened”
When you say ‘studies,’ do you mean ‘bible study?’ Because the science keeps coming up with a full house.

“and any search for evidence has only shown evidence against it?”
We used to have the ‘five minute rule’ on the sub. When you walk nto a conversation, wait at least five minutes beore talking, so you know you’re in the right conversation. I think you might need to make it the five hour rule.

“Atheists you are really annoying,”
Again, you’re talking out your ass, here.

“shut up with your magic bomb creator theory already.”
Nope. The fact that there’s no magic is how you would KNOW it was atheist, if it were, indeed, atheist in nature.

Oboehner #fundie

“The term "creationist" is commonly used as an anti-science label by proponents of evolutionism.”
Proponents of evolutionism is a prolix way of saying ‘everyone.’
Creationists also use the term and usually during anti-science posts.

“Both "evolutionist" and "evolutionism" refer to scientists and others who accept that the atheistic-based religious belief”
See, this is an anti-science stance, calling the science ‘a religion.’

"because if they don't subscribe they are blacklisted”
Well, yeah. If scientists don’t accept the science, they shouldn’t be respected as respectable scientists.

“marginalized,”
DO they WANT to be considered mainstream if they reject the science?

“and often fired”
Same as when they fire anti-vax nurses/doctors.
Or like when my LPO in the Fire Control Division went conscientious objector. They don’t let CO’s program nuclear weapons.

“To compound this stupidity some evolutionists even argue that "creation" is a fairytale religion”
Um, yeah?

“taking away "sexual freedom" and other supposed benefits of present day society.”
That’s gotta be your issue. it’s enough for us that it’s not falsifiable, therefore not science.

“This while believing in an exploding dot and random chance to arrive at all of the complexities known and unknown”
And the fallacy of argument-from-complexity.

“ All in all, this represents mainly a bunch of atheistic garbage.”
Except you don’t have to be an atheist to accept, grasp, or teach evolution.

SilenceBroken #fundie

God is supposed to be infinitely benevolent.
It’s amazing, to me, that people who believe in him purposefully make excuses for him that REAUIRE him to use suffering in order to achieve his goals. And some of his goals are suffering.

roofrack502 #fundie

“ Under Nazi rule, the state controlled everything. That is not conservative in any sense of the word as we know it today.”
Have you paid any attention to Trump’s ramblings? That’s exactly what he wants, full control over the whole country, and no one’s calling HIM a liberal.

Anabelle #fundie

“Evolution is a tool that the Academic Cartel uses to further hurt the esteem of students.”
Are you KIDDING me?
Evolution means survival of the FITTEST. i’m the product of a thousand generations of WINNERS! I am the TOP of the fucking HEAP youlying sack of shit.

“Students converted to accepting they are apes and animals, start resorting to lack of control and other animal behavior.”
Yeah, that’s why i programmed nuclear missiles for 20 years, because i was a ‘mere animal.’

dj #fundie

"It has been shown that coal, oil, and diamonds can be formed in a few years. In lab tests a few weeks”
But in conditions that would not occur naturally, so of little use in aging the Earth.

“Soft tissue has been found in T rex bone marrow,”
Fossilized, not still organic.

“population geneticists have demonstrated that Neanderthals are genetically human,”
Okay. So what?

“the human race would have gone extinct in a few thousand years due to genetic entropy”
Citation needed.

“You old earthers should actually do some serious research on both sides of the fence.”
You guys keep recydling the same bullshit lies over and over and claiming victory each time. Why would i bother to credit anything you say?
You filter all the science and only take up anything that you think supports your agenda, while ignoring anything else. That’s dishonest.

Liz Wheeler #forced-birth #wingnut

“If you’re voting “for my daughter” & “reproductive freedom” then you’re fine with men using your little girl as an object for promiscuous sex,”
I’m fine with her making choices and not fine with hateful fuckwits making her choices for her, is that okay?

“impregnating her with no commitment,”
Well, no, protecting her right to an abortion is the opposite of that.

“ & brutally killing your sweet grandbaby so more men can abuse your daughter.”
See, that’s YOU being a hateful fuck and making choices for your sake at her cost. Fuck all the way off, Liz.

“It’s gross. Stop it.”
Abortion bans are killing women RIGHT NOW. I want to stop THAT. Because it’s gross injustice.

“For your daughter.”
Right now, in way too many states, if my daughter had a problem pregnancy, or cancer, or a miscarriage, you’d have her die in great pain. Giving her the option is FOR her sake.

antigravity213 #fundie

“Genetics? What DNA disproves evolution.”
DNA shows signs of animals evolving teeth, losing teeth, evolving them again…

“Look bro, until you find the ape man, and the millions of transitional fossils, as a critical thinker,evolutionism is inclusive.”
Every fossil is a transitional form.

“How many times has the theory been changed in the last 100 years?”
That’s science. That’s a strength of science, not a weakness.

“Do you know way it's been changed so many times?”
Growing evidence, continuing research, new understandings, new technology, the contining march of progress. it’s a good thing, idiot.

“To this day the theory of evolution is still trying to be understood.”
As READILY apparent from your misposting.

“So until science can prove it,”
Not how science works, sorry.

“and explain it,”
It’s pretty well explained, actually.

“It's technically not science.”
You clearly don’t kno wwhat you’re talking about.

Hamil #fundie

“First you assume that you can use BC "responsibly".”
A coworker’s daughter used BC the whole time she was at University, for fear of being ruffied, raped, and then held responsible.
So, yeah, that’s more responsibly than jus tcrossing her fingers and hoping god’s desires aligned with hers and not with the rapist’s.

“There is no need to use birth control”
There is if you don’t want to risk a rapist, in certain states, choosing the mother of his child.

“It has been stated many times in this discussion that it is in scripture that God opens and closes the womb.”
And the woman’s desire to NOT BE a mom doesn’t seem to enter into it at all.

“therefore why do we need to do it”
Because God apparently doesn’t give the mom a vote.

The Computer Wizard #fundie

“Oxygen has many of the same properties of God, you cant smell it, touch it, taste it or hear it, but does that mean it is not there?”
We ran experiments in high school to detect and measure oxygen.

“Of course it is there”
Speaking as a submarine sailor, it’s not always safe to assume that oxygen is where you need it to be.

"The only way that you can know that there is no God is to know everything about everything, which would *make* you omnipotent,”
You mean omniscient.

“ and if you know everything, then that would make you God.”
In Genesis, god said that after they ate frmo the Tree of Knowledge, they still needed to eat from another tree to be gods.
But i do not say that i am sure there’s no way any god could possible exist anywhere in the universe. I DO say that teh evidence offered so far for the gods of humanity is not compelling. So I’m atheist as a working hypothesis, not as an omniscient fact.

“Lianardo Da'Vinci once was quoted as saying, "In the absense of evidence of any other sort [the Bible and general nature] my thumb alone would convince me of a creator.”
If you’re going to quote someone, get their name right. You look stupid playing the ‘respect for authority fallacy’ if you don’t respect the authority enough to get his name right.

"one is how plants and animals change to fit a situation”
Both of them are about living things changing over time by mutation and selection.
Macro is just accruing enough micro evolution to exhibit big physical changes. it’s the change from a gazelle to a giraffe.
The distinction is just convenient for evolution research but A LIFE OR DEATH LINE for creationists.

Rebecki #fundie

Tina S #fundie

“Evolution says only the fittest survive, correct atheists?”
No. It says that the fittest TEND to thrive. Not exclusively.

“if this is true”
It’s not.
“why wouldnt you be weeding out all the sickleys in your family to not risk your clan from being a dying breed in this 'game of life'?”
Because ‘cooperation’ is the strategy we chose for survival.

"why do you treat the sickleys in your family and allow them to breed further sickleys?”
because your premise is fucked

“and while i have your attention, how many monkey babies have been marked in your family tree the past 100 years?”
Wow. You got even dumber.

“i mean, REAl monkey babies. how fascinating!”
Mockery from Ignorance… How droll.

LordSesshomaru #fundie

“I don't know what the hell is wrong with some with you”
Aw, shucks. The list is long but i’ve grown comfortable with it.

“Being an Atheist is NOT something to be proud of!”
I’ve been watching TV this week, seeing people dress up in garbage bags to show that they’re proud of worshiping a felon and voting for a rapist. Pride is a wickety-wack thing.

Vanderzyden #fundie

If we demoted God to the back because he’s not detectable, we would not he theistic evolutionists. Just evolutionists. God is as crucial to the TE model as to the Creationist model, they just don’t ignore the actual evidence.

thomas_the_panzer #fundie

When i still believed, i came to be convinced that “HELL” was a comfortable cloud, moderate environment, long rows of viewing couches looking down on a stretch of the Burning Lake. People looking forwards to watching the torture of any given demographic (gays, coloreds, atheists, democrats, republicans, whatever), got a front row seat where they could indulge. And that’s all they’d ever do.

Angel #fundie

“Atheists use atheism as an excuse to justify debauchery.”
No, we do not.
First of all, as an atheist, why would i need an excuse? I just do what i want, anyway.
And to date, I’m 62. I have had sex with all the women I’ve wanted to for the last 40 years. All one of her.

"Deep down, all those so called atheists believe in God”
Doesn’t God’s Word say NOT to tell lies?

“and fear divine retribution for denying the Lord's existence.”
This is the omniscient all-powerful being who will know everything i knkow and why i ‘pretend’ not to believe in him, AND that it’s pretend? This is my PLAN, you think? I can’t even outsmart my wife, you want to believe I THINK i can outsmart GOD by pretending to atheist? What, I’m going to cross my fingers and hold it behind my back?
You should think about that for a while.

“So they try to be a little bit nicer than the Christians as an insurance policy.”
Or… Maybe i don’t need divine retribution to respect other people, and treat them as i hope to be treated.

Randomlurkthrow23473 #sexist

“ literally objectify the hell out of men, not only physically but also on the basis of wealth and clout.”
Um, did anyone ever explain objectification to you?
It’s when you see women as a sex object. Not a partner, just something to fuck, with nothing to contribute. No service they can perform, no contribution to work or discussion, might as well be an inflatable doll.

Ojectifying a man based on wealth? Clout? You’re saying a woman looks at a man’s ass and then thigks ‘And AFTER the sex, he can get me backstage to meet Taylor! That’s the opposite of objectifying.

jagdflieger #fundie

“Indeed God directly revealed His existence to me. What would you say to me?”

I would ask if there’s anything you can show to me to prove it wasn’t sourced entirely in your head?
You hallucinating makes a lot more sense than a god that reveals his self to some but not all of his children.

Jedi_Templar #fundie

“Actually, the cosmic background radiation was what I had in mind when I meant that the big bang could be used for proof of creation.”
Okay. Take any physics textbook and a the end of every chapter stamp ‘Because GOD!’

“And God said, 'Let there be light,' and there was light. -Genesis... Now, if God did indeed create light, at the furthest reaches of the universe,”
Um. The universe, in Genesis, is about 2000 miles across. A solid sky arching over the flat Earth floating on the Waters Below.
Sun, moon, stars, rolling around inside the solid sky. This is not describing the Big Bang.

"we should expect to see light. And what do we find? Electromagnetic radiation, of which light is a part of.”
But most of the background radiation is not visible light. So you’re jumping from what Genesis FUCKING SAYS to what science measures. And pretending they dovetail.

"Also, solar light is composed of other electromagnetic spectrum, such as ultraviolet, infrared, etc.”
Which the bible doesn’t mention, either. You’re adding to the gospel, which is a no-no.

Jimmy Lister #wingnut #conspiracy #racist

Disatrous?
We’ve expended about 7% of our military capacity, and most of that’s the old stuff, the stuff about to go obsolete, and helped knocked out a HUGE part of one of our biggest enemy’s capacity.
If nothing else, we’ve shown what a paper tiger the Russian Army has been for quite a while.

We’re replacing the stocks rather than paying to upgrade and recertify them. And after 20 years of a wasted war, we’re not getting shot at. Maybe Putin’ll go bankrupt on this fiasco of his.

It Wasnt nails that hung Him to the cross... #fundie

“Abortion is murder, no matter what.”
ANd right now, we’re seeing that a TOTAL ABORTION BAN is also murder. Women are dying of preventable conditions because opinionated people make asshate decisions for EVERYONE.

“A family in my church had a baby a few years ago, and the doctors told them to abort him,”
I really doubt they ORDERED an abortion. Probably counseled that they should CONSIDER abortion.

"telling them that he wasnt going to live when he was born.”
Doctors are too canny to promise that. They probably couched it in terms of chances. Chances are against him, the odds are bad, and so on.

"The told the doctor that they would NEVER do anything like that because God gave them that baby, therefore God wanted them to have that baby.”
And that’s their decision to make. Not yours. Not the legislature’s.

“Guess what?? The doctor's were wrong,”
I really want to know EXACTLY what the doctors promised.

“He had open heart surgery almost emediatly after his birth.”
Yeah, that’s chancy shit. I’m sure they mentioned really horrible odds. So, you have an anecdote. There are plenty of those in the news, usually one a day about a woman dying as a direct result of the abortion bans in her state.

“Abortion is murder,”
I repeat, so is a total ban.

“God wouldnt have given you a baby if he wanted you to just go and kill him or her.”
But…God gave babies to people KNOWING that he was going to tell the Jews to slaughter the people because they were on land he gave to the Chosen People.
He gave babies to people right up to the FLood, right? When he killed every man, woman, child, fetus, egg and sperm on the PLANTET save 8 people?
Not much of an argument.

“I disagree with you when you said some things may be necessary, abortion is NEVER necessary.”
So women AND their ‘babies’ die together, that’s god’s plan? Fuck you, fuck your faith, and if your god is real, fuck him.

YogicCowboy #homophobia

“Sexuality must be inherently functional; that is where it begins.”
Yes, but you must remember that it’s species that evolve, not an individual. If the species finds a functional use for homosexuality, it’ll keep it. And the species have had a gazillion years to figure out if such orientation is useful, and it shows up in LOTS of species. So whether YOU like it or not, the DNA appear to like it.

Norm Lenhart #fundie

“You take him to an AIDS ward at a hospital or crisis center.”
Because you have no good ARGUMENT, let’s just horrify the child in your care so he’s not only guilty but also TERROR STRICKEn.

“Then you rent some gay porn and make him watch it with you while you show your revulsion.”
YOUR revulsion. So, this is about YOU. YOU can’t stand a gay child, so YOU will drive him into the closet rathe rthan deal with the issue.

“Then you explain he has bought the BS and you want to help him.”
NOW you explain your actions? Your priorities are fucked.

“He can accept that help or he is on his own. Forever.”
He’s your child IF he meets your expectations. Otherwise you will live your life without him. Still all about you.

“Then you find a different church.”
What’d the church have to do with this?

Gail-ann S. #fundie

"Religiously offensive holiday card at Hallmark"
LEt’s put a pin in that, shall we? You’re Offended ‘Religiously.’ Meaning, you know, on the basis of your religion. By this card.

“The inside reads "The fortitude to put up with all that goyim Christmas music? Oy"
As a Christian as well as a polite person I find this extremely offensive.”
You find the relatively small subset of songs played in stores at christmas-time a RELIGIOUS issue for yourself?
What part of the bible covers or mentions Sleigh Bells?
What ritual can you NOT perform at Christmas if you don’t hear Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer two hundred times between halloween and New Years?

"There were NO Christmas cards making fun of any other religion or tradition.”
Well, no. No one else’s Solstice traditions occupy business areas from wall to fucking wall, floor to ceiling, 24/7. WHEN would we bitch about how ‘all you ever hear this time of year is Shinto singing!’? Or dreading that time of year where the Muslims are every other commercial? Or how we get all those virgin sacrifice flyers in the mail in time for Pele-Day sales?

Americans act like we’re the only people in the world, and American Xians act like they’re the only religion in the world and clutch your fucking pearls as people note you’re loud, crass, and overwhelming the common spaces.

“An apology would be nice”
Apology for what? You taking offense that people take offense at christmas goddamned music? It’s not like they’re wrong….

“but most importantly I feel that Hallmark should pull this offensive card from CVS stores and anywhere else it was distributed. I think this is fair since Hallmark is the premier seller of Christmas cards.”
I think you’re full of yourself and should pray to god for foregiveness for being an utter pratt.

Sara Ahlmark #fundie

“Why is it still fuckin legal for those cock-licking homo pigs to maintain this nazi fucking LIE called evolution.”
I have Mormon relatives that would say much the same thing about Baptist religion. And Catholic relatives that say much the same thing about Mormons and their religion.
Maybe you shouldn’t question the legality of shutting down ideas you’re opposed to?

“Let tens of thousands of evil DEVILS of ETERNAL flames burns their grandchildren in concentration camps all over the planet.”
Yeah, that’s an intellectual debate.

“And if that doesn't shut down these cunt morons, I shall personally rip their intenstines through their GOD DAMN nosdrils!...”
Gotta think that your opposition to evolution MUST be religion based, does it also teach this sort of violence?

“I just get so fucking upset when I hear people talk about this gay shit piece of pussy EVOLUTION.”
Aw….so sorry to hear that you’re made uncomfortable by science. Little innocent ‘rip their guts through their nostrils’ person like you?

“I am NO son of a buttfucking God damn ape, and that's scientific enough for me!”
You ARE an ape. All the relatives you know are apes. Your parents were apes. That’s the science.

“Hell yeah!”
Fuck no.

“We should decapitate all those bitch slapping freak loving idiots, who think God is dead and who uses the name of Jesus to wipe their infidel pedofile asses.”
You’re what, twelve? SO edgy.

Derrick #fundie

“just a movie huh? tell that to the THOUSANDS OF CHILDREN THAT WANT TO LEARN WITCHCRAFT AND ABOUT WIZARDS NOW.!”
That’s literally WHAT WE TOLD OUR KIDS when they asked about wizard school. “Sorry, Ace, it’s just a movie.”
And they accepted it. So, yeah, problem solved.

Niteclerk #fundie

“How about no contraceptives,”
When i worked at my grandfather’s pharmacy, there was an age limit for buying condoms. Grandpa told me to ignore that. If a kid was brave enough to ask for a condom, he got the condoms. That’s taking responsibility for his actions, moron.
You just want to punish people for having sex.

“no abortions”
Half the homeless in this country were kids in the foster system that aged out of it. They have no family to help in times of stress, almost guaranteeing that they’ll lose everything. You want to ADD to the homeless problem, I take it?

“and limited welfare for new single mothers?”
Oh, don’t forget making them marry their rapist, even if they’re related to the cousin or uncle or whoever got them preggers.
Everyone voting this way should try living for a year taking care of a foster baby, on welfare. See what an EASY ride that is.

"The first couple of years would be rough, but people might actually start taking responsibility for their actions.”
Nothing will change but you getting a chubby over their destitution.