Modern Western women hate respect. They hate consent. They love bloody beatings. They love death. That you delusional idiots don't see that is why most of you are just the way you imagine these incels to be - complete virgins. You are the ones who don't see what's wrong.
[I'll gladly remain a virgin if it takes forcing myself on someone just to get laid.]
Then you are fucking insane. This is like some Christian saying that you'd rather be starving than eating at a McDonalds set in what was once a Church. Modern women hate men who are virgins and love rape.
You guys have no idea how correct you are with the Soviet comparison. In Soviet Union people who didn’t believe communism/socialism could work were treated as mentally ill. It was simply incomprehensible to believe that. It’s the same with feminism/liberalism and men like this idiot I’ve been trashing around here.
You guys have never lived in the communist state though (probably, I guess). But my ancestors did and I have the encyclopedia from that time. In that entry under Capitalism you can literally see a cartoonish picture of rich fat cat torturing the hungry masses by throwing a roasted chicken manipulated by a rope in front of them. That’s literally how capitalism had been perceived at the time and gives you a good insight into the psychology of men like Johnny. Notice how he didn’t even bother to comment on the part where I told him that shirnks themselves rejected to “treat” me or that any sincere discussion with a shrink would result in me being arrested. This he doesn’t want to talk about because the former doesn’t fit his narrative and he is cautious enough not to openly admit that he does want to see me arrested regarding the latter.
When people firmly believe in the horrible ideas they have and think they are as natural as breathing and have the power of police and psychiatry behind them it gets very nasty and turns their previously free countries into next USSR.
(To clarify above)
Well, they didn’t exactly live in a communist one, not even USSR was communist, but the point was more about totalitarian systems. And keep in mind, my ancestors aren’t even from USSR but a place with the most liberal strain of totalitarianism during the Cold War.
[Quote caamib is responding to: "And yet somehow, those male feminists have several close friends, good jobs, and a clean criminal record while you, Mr.Assange are currently fleeing sexual abuse allegations by hiding in Russia.
Who is the one intensely disliked by men and women alike and seen as traitors again? Golly, it seems so obvious."]
This is the standard level of knowledge at FSTST
1. These male feminists have few, if any close friends because they drove all their feminist male friends away by calling them all abusers and rapists while sane, non-feminist males steered clear of them long ago.
2. They don't have good jobs. Most of them are crappy jobs writing feminist garbage.
3. It depends on what you mean by a criminal record, but if you're using a really broad definition anybody can have a criminal record if they're accused of something, like Assange was by those crazy twats in Sweden. In any case, he was never convicted of anything so just saying he has a criminal record because of unfair charges is insane. And it is known these charges are all fake and arranged by the US. By the way, Sweden dropped their charges in May of this year and the only ones remaining against him are those by the UK for bail violations.
4. He isn't hiding in Russia but Ecuadorian embassy in London.
5. Who the fuck sees Assange as a traitor? He's not even an American to be one.
I have and I still believe I'd have sex with a woman against her consent. The difference now is that when I wrote that I thought that rape is forceful sex against a woman's consent. I was wrong, since I didn't know enough history and was brainwashed my feminist propaganda. Rape is a crime against women's owner or her chastity and consent is irrelevant for women. In fact, should you expect it you're bound to be seen as a complete loser by a woman. All that anti-rape propaganda is actually aimed to keep dumbasses who believe women even want to consent away from getting any sex whatsoever.
So while I'd still forcibly have a sex with a woman I'd never rape, since I wouldn't have forcible sex with a woman who is somebody's property or chaste.
Also, something the OP said, that both Progressives and Nazis want him dead because he is a Jew. That might be technically correct, but Nazis have much less power than Progressives in the current society. I often talk about politics and how presidential politics in the US is irrelevant etc. And that much is true, but had Hillary won Progressives would have had much more power and she did came very close. One can only hope that Trump will continue with his policies that amount to nothing less than ethnic cleansing of its voters to at least slow down the Democratic Party.
What women really want from a husband is commitment. This is what they need to feel comfortable having children with the husband and raising a family. She wants commitment to be assured that the husband will always be there to support the family, especially when the wife is pregnant or with infants which put her in a weak position. So why are women so upset by male extramarital sex? Because modern women have been brainwashed to believe that male extramarital sex is an indication of lack of commitment. Historically you cannot find any instance of women complaining about casual extramarital sex by husbands before Paul started complaining about this in the New Testament. Of course women were jealous of mistresses throughout history, and this make sense since this is a real threat to her husband's commitment to her. It was Paul who introduced this terrible concept of male sexual fidelity to human culture. And even today, it is the degree of influence of Paul-based Christian culture on a society that determines the level of women's jealousy about male extramarital sex. Feminism is an extension of this culture and takes it to new extremes.
[In response to a post by Kitty Kaboom, where she talked about her two disabled children]
"It doesn't matter what you look like."
"Don't let shitwits like caamib... convince you otherwise"
That's not really necessary, dear. I am a staunch anti-lookist.
"It's the content of your thoughts, words and emotions that people care about"
Absolutely, but not if you have anything like
" Depth. Compassion. Empathy. Intellect."
These things are extremely repellent to vermin like modern Western women.
Also, I hope both of your kids die, you filthy cunt.
caamib
Anonymous coward - nothing you say here makes any sense.
I am useless about what ? Paying taxes for feminist causes that would ensure I remain lonely, had I listened to human manure like you? Like those poor crazy ba starts on this site who do believe your crazy ideology, men stupid and crazy enough that they'd remain virgins than fuck even 17 year old girls but would let gladly let even toddlers be raped by blacks and other groups than can do not wrong on their minds ? That kind of "useless"?
I am not useless to my friends and my parther, I am useless to scum like you, scum that wants whites massacred. And that kind of uselessness is just too splendid.
The rest is even more of a riot.
I never seriously attempted to do what you claim (read https://www.google.hr/amp/s/caamib.wordpress.com/2013/12/30/love-shyness-1-my-experience-with-love-shyness/amp/ to understand the context ). I have also never mentioned it since 2013 nor do I even see my parents for months at a time so what kindo of idiot would blabber about this time and time and again?
Oh, this kind of idiot, as we see later on.
Because only a hyper idiot would claim that I am somehow, according to you, not mentally read for am activity I've engaged in for more than 5 years. I can only laugh hysterically are that, but.... What isn't funny though is that vermin like you actually can apply this desire for control and judgement to young girls and trumatize them when they have sex, especially if they have sex with much older men (when that sex is much LESS traumatic if scum like you doesn't poke their disgusting pig nose in). There are many girls who actually are traumatized by vermin like you that sends prosecutors and such scum after their boyfriends with no regard to the wellbeing of these girls.
Anyway, keep making a damn fool out of yourself and blaming me due to fact nobody taught me that modern Western women want to have car tires strapped around their necks and set on fire. Because that's exactly what some boy at 12 would know with no guidance.
Idiot. All you're good for is taking a piss on.
The entire nature of the bullshit white men are taught today makes them inadequate, as it goes against female nature.
Does consent exist in nature?
No.
So who thinks about consent?
Losers think about consent.
Can women be fully lesbian?
No, they can't.
So why do some women turn fully lesbian?
Because they're disgusted by men.
Does contraception exist in nature?
No.
So who uses contraception?
Losers use contraception.
Are dates a good way to get modern Western women?
No, dates are a horrible way to get modern Western women, since these women don't want to be treated civilly or be talked to.
So who goes on dates?
Losers go on dates.
Who washes their ass?
Entitled, boring straight white guys wash their ass.
You never see blacks, Muslims or such groups do any of this. Yet nobody's accusing them of anything.
Men who are not inadequate do what they want with women and colonize them with pregnancies. Yet the society teaches men not to do that.
Inadequacy comes from applying the standards that go against human nature.
Why do so many men have problems with women?
Because women hate men. And for good reason.
Men who aren't to be hated have no notion of nonsense like consent, contraception or female's will.
(Reiner)
The women are just incapable underage girls at 15 or 35 is the only thing I agree with feminazis.
And as incapable underage girls all their lives, they should not vote, they should not participate in politics, they should not be allowed to open checking accounts, they should not be allowed to decide with whom to mate, and they should be a property that passes from the authority of the father to the authority of the husband.
(Caamib)
I agree completely and doing my best to deny whatever I can from the things you mentioned to my girlfriend. I obviously can’t have things that are non-existent like property passes and I didn’t get to know her via our parents deciding to meet us up but other than things you mention here that are legally non-existent I try to completely cut her off from the things you mention. Thanks for being one of the aware men. I plan to gather those like you.
(This guy is starting to become like the DeviantArt version of Caamib)
Men are allowed to wear whatever they want because men don't stir up nearly as much rape.
The thing is, his position had become very precarious the moment he let the seriously ill Kerstin out of the basement. There were already serious doubts as to the existence of some cult and he'd likely be discovered anyway. In fact, it's a miracle his shabby story survived as long as it did. The wisest thing was to just let Kerstin die or maybe recover spontaneously and dump her body somewhere later if she doesn't recover.
But Fritzl didn't do that, and that shows he had humanity in him and wasn't quite the monster the media portray him to be.
Feminists will have to be dealt with much harsher than Jews were dealt with during the Holocaust.
Trump has to stay in power. The Democratic Party of the 2020 combines the worst aspects of Nazi Germany, namely extreme racism and intolerance towards opposition (the only difference that this racism is now against whites) and Soviet Union, namely hostility towards small business. It would be a disaster if these people came to power. If Trump does lose the election he should immediately declare a dictatorship, which would enable him to mercilessly crush the left and set the stage for a peaceful partition of the US once he steps down. If I were Trump I'd just start a dictatorship after Nov 3 in any case and start a war against the left on the streets, since army would be on my side. I would not stop this war before I exterminated all of them.
Whites who aren't afraid of Biden's victory are kinda like Jim Jones cult members.
In what way?
They don't feel threatened because they are white liberals, and thus they feel that their own existence is a crime and want to be killed by niggers. Like Jim Jones cult members, they don't fear death but welcome it because for them the existence of whites is unacceptable. So what they're saying by claiming "I am a white who is not threatened by Joe Biden's victory" is akin to a Jim Jones cult member saying "I am not threatened by drinking poison, I know I will go to heaven".
But not all whites are insane as they are. .
You are clearly a modern moron. There is no hatred of women in [a rant by caamib that the OP praises as "required reading". Excerpts here]. The hatred is of modern Western culture, and is well deserved since modern Western culture is pure evil.
Aoc, if it should exist at all, should never be above 12.
And liberals are a-ok with rape, as long as it is done by the groups they find immune to any criticism, like blacks.
Well, Eivind, I congratulate you on your final victory. Predictably, all those idiots who chastised you when you were arrested and celebrated when your detention period was initially extended in July 2012 are now completely silent.
But what can you expect from such vermin? The amount of lies and hysteria they can produce is truly astounding, kinda like this nutjob in the comments who claimed you were under suspicion for murder in 1999 Norway when you didn't even live there at the time. But this is probably some of the less crazy shit they said. I remember liberals saying you were the author of Emma's posts, then that got your girlfriend because you bought her since she's a destitute Russian or entire campaigns to get you off University because your beliefs about rape somehow meant you are a rapist. These people have no knowledge of the material world. Their fantasies and incorrect nonsense is all that exists for them. They are dangerous, they are maniacs and they hate you because you're white, straight and male. They don't give a fuck about any rape or age of consent or whatever.
The groups they find immune to criticism could rape their mothers, sisters or daughters and they'd be ok with it. The groups they find immune to criticism can rape newborns, it's all ok to liberals since these groups can't be criticized since they lack privilege. You have to understand that to a liberal actual definition of rape is any rape a straight white male has at any time. They are self-hating freaks and monsters and they will get what's coming to them very soon. They have already basically stopped reproducing and turned women over to groups like Muslims and they have no biological or ideological future. Nobody wants a pathetic mangina who asks for consent over and over again every millimeter. Women want men who do what they wish with them, it is in their nature. Consent is a very useful concept within an environment of patriarchal civilization. Today it's a gone concept. You cannot have consent as something that is demanded of just one group of people and liberals actually believe that just one group of people has to think about "consent". And even when they do get consent they still hate this group !
Liberals have no chance with any of these women and they have only decreased their chances by making the women in their countries basically a monopoly of the Muslims. And in the end these same Muslims will destroy the liberals who cherish them so much and that is a good thing. Western world has forfeited its future. It is gone. It can no longer be saved.
(On a caamib quote)
Now who has proof Carib isn't one of your own pet strawman? Anyone? You know this is ghostwritten by one of your eurocucks.
[bold is mine. italics in original.]
Beatings will continue until morale improves / Nickel and a Coke machine
Let's imagine you have a Coke machine that throws out Cokes when you throw out nickels in it. So, it appears it works and you use it that way.
While doing it some shithead comes along and says "Hey, that is morally wrong ! You shouldn't do that ! You should throw rocks in a Coke machine, but know that you're not entitled to any Coke and that machines have their needs too yaddayaddayadda..."
Would you listen to him, telling you to put something that will give you no Cokes in a Coke machine, while he's basically acknowledging there is a likely possibility that you won't get any cokes?
The point of this metaphor is - SJW shitheads criticize me for coercing women into sex, impregnating a mentally ill woman, doing some other thing I can't talk about etc. but what choice did I have? To treat them with respect and get nothing? Any humane treatment of women only brought upon them despising me. Coercing one woman into sex gave me my best female friend today, using an insane woman for sex enabled me to procreate. Had I had treated them like the cucked mainstream society told me I'd achieve none of that.
I know some of the crazier liberals will find this metaphor with machines insulting to women or whatever deranged bs these mental patients will think of, but they'd say the same if I used a metaphor about chickens giving eggs or something so it's irrelevant - intelligent people will understand.
Scumbags like Amanda Marcotte are manipulating the natural male desire to cherish and protect women when they attack groups like PUAs by saying crazy shit like "Can you imagine what these men would get if they only treated women well?"
And sadly it works for so many men on a primal level.
But once you can overcome that you'll know what you'd get - nothing at all. Nothing but derision and hatred.
There is nothing, absolutely nothing, a modern Western man can get by treating modern Western women like some ladies that lived 100 years ago. They are skanks, they are shit and they want to be treated like shit. If you fail to do so will you will be written off extremely quickly and brutally. They are skanks, they are scum, they are just human feces. They cheated on their "boyfriends" with me, their "boyfriends" cheated on them, they can't stand to be impregnated with a man who'd actually take care of the kids, they are verminous whores.
Feminists even have a term for this - http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Feminist_cookie
The insanity of this position is well explained here
https://omegavirginrevolt.wordpress.com/2015/01/31/the-beatings-will-continue-until-morale-improves/
I have noticed the same phenomena from feminists. Like the white vagina worshiping nationalists, feminists offer nothing as well. For most men, embracing feminism will not improve his life. It will make it much worse. In fact, feminists have created a phrase for this, “Do you want a cookie?” Yes, I want a cookie. I want lots of cookies. If feminists want men to become feminists, then feminism must produce real tangible improvements in men’ lives. In other words, feminists need to start handing out cookies. Since feminists refuse to hand out cookies, men have no reason to become feminists and every reason to oppose feminism with every fiber of their being.
So much truth in this post. Treating modern Western women as anything but vermin achieved no results for me but pain. Treating them as human garbage they are achieved all the results these monsters are even able to provide.
Why, exactly, should I put stones in a Coke machine and listen to how the machine owes me nothing?
I just love this nutcase who constantly posts that evo psych is dead or whatever. I will bet you dollars to doughnuts this person believes that we live in some rape culture or that we patriarchy is still something that exists in the Western countries and most be destroyed. It's hilarious how insane these freaks can be. That's also obvious in how they tend to disregard Moxon because he is not an established member of some "scientific community". Um, no, that's not how science works. You either can use the scientific method or not. Your standings are irelevant.
The idea that a man is a pedophile if he sleeps with a 13 yo girl is based on the notion that he is is sleeping with "underage" girls because that's what the bad laws say.
The thing is - These laws are utterly insane.
Imagine if the age of consent was 30. Would you think a sex with a 29 year-old woman being banned would be crazy?
What if the age of consent was 80? Would you agree that having sex with a 79 year-old woman because she is too young being a crime is crazy?
Well, guess what - that's how a sane man feels in a modern Western world. If you thought that the ideas with 30 or 80 were crazy that's how we feel when we read your batshit ideas.
The idea of "pedophilia" over the age of 12 is the idea of completely insane people and insane laws that are implemented and upheld. It has nothing to do with actual physical and biological reality. It's based on a fundamentally flawed idea on sex being a traumatic, dangerous act and is puritan nonsense liberals are defending staunchly and thus proving the point many realize about them, which is that they're not progressive or actually liberal but small minded followers of what's most popular.
What must, of course, be noted is that liberals want to apply these insane laws only to whites. A liberal would have no problem with a black, Muslim or any other member of some of their sacred groups having sex with their 2 month old baby if they want it. That would be a no problem at all for a liberal. But this is because a liberal sees statutory rape, or any rape, as white men doing anything to get a woman. To a liberal brutally and forcefully fucking a white woman by a member of a sacred group isn't a crime but a white man asking a woman for coffee is a severe crime. When it comes to white women and the "rapes" liberals claim they might commit, statutory or otherwise, that's another story for another post.
So all men ever want is sex, paid or not? They never want relationships/marriage, or unpaid sex? See how insane you are? You're in no position to give anybody any advice. You're completely insane.
And, yes, these communities ban proposing therapy because it's not an actual proposition. It's your religion. Notice how this one lunatic says that even if therapy doesn't work it's merely your fault. How is that different from religion? It isn't, not at all. So banning such proposals is merely about removing crazy zealots like you. There is simply no way to explain to you why therapy could never work, even when using basic concepts like that women like evil and therapy can't make you evil. It is impossible. Hence it is not allowed, just like some Christian nutcases aren't allowed to preach at just about any location.
And, no, lol, you libtards don't care about actual "rape". You care about white straight men never getting anything, and you don't mind your sacred classes like minorities doing whatever they want. Criticizing them would be like criticizing Jesus Christ to liberals, because, at the end, you're just religious nutcases. Any act by the sacred class, any rape, murder, anything, is a Holy act to liberals.
"One of the most repulsive"
And yet has a girlfriend, which imbeciles like passerby and pharaoh will never ever ever have. I mean, for all their wisdom about women you'd expect them to be just a bit more successful that I was? Instead I already have my third girlfriend and had sex with 6 different women if you count just consensual.
Let me put it to you this way
Caamib - 3 girlfriends, 6 sexual partners (if you just count consensual)
Passerby - 0 girlfriends, 1 possible, but not confirmed sexual partner (he was too drunk), which is basically zero since he doesn't even remember even if it happened.
Pharaoh- 0 girlfriends, 0 zero times he had sex.
Women in their countries and their prime minister approved importing a bunch of rapists who know what women want exactly because men like Passerby and Pharaoh are too pathetic and these women want strong Muslim men to breed them.
And these guys are giving somebody advice !
"and least aware (self or otherwise) people"
Oh? And what am I not aware of? I mean, I can't be less aware than these two with the facts I just mentioned? Hahahahaha
Probably the most dangerous kind of propaganda for any incel male, or just basically any male who hasn’t seen reality yet, are the incessant hysterical last gasps of the establishment to demonize rape.
Now, to anybody who actually bothered to open his eyes and reject indoctrination these attempts as just hilarious, about as hilarious as a potential scenario of the media trying to make us believe we’re all ducks. It is obvious women like men who don’t care about consent.
However, aside from obvious hilarious aspect of this the effect of this on men who have not yet seen reality is horrible.
Anti-rape propaganda is selling gullible, indoctrinated young men a fantasy that they will get women if they just treat them humanely or if they learn how to seduce better. The first claim is obvious nonsense and the other one even worse, since it makes them apply extreme effort for skills that you pretty much either have or don’t. It’s as if a 5ft2 woman wanted to be 6ft tall. It won’t work. On the other hand, dumb football players and thugs rape and are successful in terms of reproduction and thus respected by women.
Teaching a dogma that rape is something women hate, which was last applicable in the West decades ago, makes young men here miss chances with women and wonder why they can’t be successful.
It is all really, really dangerous.
If I were to not oppose a reader of mine raping a woman this would be (and by now is) not for any reasons of punishing women, since they won’t feel punished. It would be merely to try to ensure that he has a fighting chance of breeding with a woman.
"underage girls is illegal, how am I going to have sex then without ending up in jail? answer me that question."
I will try to answer it for you. This very much depends on your age and location. In some areas of the world it would likely be too risky to try something like that and then you must travel to Asia. In other areas the risk of somewhat lower.
If the risk isn't very high like in some areas of America, try creating a facebook acc as a teen and fill it up with content. Have 100s of fake friends if need be. Then start messaging teenage girls. Look for apps that are for teens that want to create "friendships". Go to some school forums or local forums/facebook groups for teens. Be resourceful in trying to play a teen. I've heard of cases of in their 20s and 30s actually attending high school classes for a semester. Not in some African country but United States !
Also, do you hate modern Western women? Do you believe they should have no rights and that they're just worthless sluts? Eivind might not agree on this as his years long relationship might have softened him but I know that the tastes of modern Western women are irreparably broken and that the only thing they deserve is to be used and that laws should not apply to them.
Have you read my text on limited political pedophilia? It states
"I am a limited political pedophile.
What does this mean?
I am not attracted to female children below the age of 12, but I would still have sex with a modern Western female even younger, even a toddler.
Why?
Because I hate almost all modern Western women and don't care what happens to them. I know they will all become worthless sluts who will fuck the dirtiest men around (actual omegas - http://www.coalpha.org/Misuse-of-terms-l...95159.html) and that they will reject any male who will be interested in a serious relationship, let alone marriage. They might marry a beta when they're 35 or so just so he can feed their disgusting omega spawn but even then they'll fuck dirtbags who will still have them.
I don't care what happens to almost any Western female toddler (excluding women from sane groups in the West, like Amish, Mormons, Mennonites or Orthodox Jews). Would I get hard on 3 year old female toddler were I to get one? I don't know, I honestly haven't been with one before. But even if I could not, I'd still try to lick its vagina or something like that, just for experiment. I suspect it would be easier with some developed girl who is like 11. I have no doubt I'd be attracted to her and would fuck her well.
The point isn't attraction. Were I attracted to below 12 jailbaits I'd be sure I could get it hard even for a 3 year-old, but I can't be sure of that right now for reasons I've mentioned - a) I am not attracted to them now b) I have never been with somebody who is, like, a toddler.
The point is something else completely -as a modern Western female, you have no rights in my eyes. You are lost, broken, tainted, worthless. You will never be anything than a public urinal. You have no capability of being a good wife or a mother.
On the other hand, I'd never act in ways I described with a female from a non-feminist country !
So in that sense I am a political pedophile, in a limited sense (I am not a political pedophile toward non-feminist women). "
This is why I am for violence even against women younger than 12, though I am talking about it from a moral perspective and not saying anybody should go and do it now (for safety reasons). If you apply this view you will lose sight of the non-existent moral reasons for not treating such women violently, but it will sharpen you to avoiding criminal charges. It will ultimately be a good thing. These women deserve nothing better.
If you employ the mindset I have as limited political pedophile to women older than 12 as well you will no longer have moral qualms about raping them. So maybe that would become an option as well.
(St. Cho Seung-Hui)
Jfl @ this NPC cope. Nigger lives don't even matter to other niggers, yet the nation burns because some nig nog was killed by a white cop. What about all the niggers killing themselves in urban America, in places like Detoilet & Chimpcongo? Surely niggers are far more dangerous to other niggers than cops are to niggers.
None of this means I care for bacon of course. There isn't a cop alive who doesn't deserve to swing from a noose or a bullet to the temple. But seriously, cops are for the shitskins & NPC trash. Let me police myself with my own weapons, please & thank you.
(Caamib)
All BLM members should be killed on spot.
@MerriedManJr
I didn't know you were writing a book! What's it about?
My autobiography, later coupled with my ideas on patriarchy, sluts, coalpha concept etc. More about inner life narative and emotions than describing actions/events. Almost no dialogue.
Rape should almost exclusively be a property crime
There are some unhealthy patriarchal societies but history has never recorded a society that was both healthy and not patriarchal. It just doesn't happen.
In a healthy patriarchal society fathers own their daughters and marry off their daughters to good men when these women are still virgins and aged about 15-16. Their husbands are then the ones who then become their new owners. Imagine such women to be group 1 for purposes of this post.
In a feminist society this doesn't happen and women become massive sluts even at the age of 13-14. They become completely broken and are no longer even relationship material, let alone marriage material. They are scum of the Earth. Imagine such women to be group 2 for purposes of this post.
Women from group 2 deserve to be raped, but what is more important is that their rapes should remain outside of the realms of law. It should not be prosecuted in any way, much like cats or dogs mating should not be prosecuted.
It's different with group 1. If such women are raped than that should be a crime, but not against the woman but against her owner - ie, father or a husband.
My point being - a sane society differentiates between acts or rape and crimes of rape. These are not the same in a healthy patriarchal society.
Some exceptions to that might be self-managing prostitutes, aka prostitutes that aren't property of pimps and widows.
These are some good texts on the issue
http://www.coalpha.org/Obvious-facts-about-rape-td7575288.html
What makes it worse, telling an incel to get help will only enrage him/her further.
Actually, this part isn't as unreasonable. What leftists mean by "getting help" is therapy, which is incredibly dangerous. Telling a therapist in Western feminist shitholes about these problems is extremely dangerous. I've seen shrinks who write on this very site talking shit about incels and spouting leftist garbage.
I have a simple test for a shrink to pass if you want him working with you - tell him to harm a local feminist of your own choosing (or one among the several that are offered if you want to give them an option). If they don't wanna do it ditch them right away.
This is the brief story of my second gf and her silly, irrational actions. Bear in mind, she is likely my best female friend today.
1.I meet her on a dating site. She just broke up with her boyfriend. I'm still a virgin at the time and she's very uninterested in meeting, wasting our time in fruitless bs talks about nothing.
2.I lose my virginity with some slut and tell this to her. She
a) immediately goes back to her ex AND b)immediately wants a meeting with me
3.We meet and she wants me, not her bf
4.She breaks up with her bf and says she wants to be with me
5.She meets me the second time after this. But now I'm no longer interesting to her. Now she blocks me on Fb.
6.She wants to get back to her "bf", he doesn't want her back.
7.Three months pass. She contacts me again, asking me to solve some fucking problem of hers. I decline and block her on Facebook. She then sends me an SMS, offering sex.
8.She tries to torture me by making up excuses to "give up" on sex and then offering it again ( she later, when we were already in a relationship, admitted these were all fake "changes of mind").
9.I finally snap and post her pic on my blog. She then finally agrees to really have sex with me - under the condition that I no longer contact her.
10.We have sex and I no longer contact her. But she contacts me. (EDIT - some of the insaner manginas online used to claim she did so because she was afraid I'd "blackmail" her again. However, that's just insanity by manginas, since when we stopped contacting I had no more pics of her. When she contacted me again I was BACK ON HER FRIEND LIST AND COULD SEE ALL HER PICS AGAIN). So we start a relationship.
11.Our relationship is a joke and she is a crazy woman.
12.We finally, after about a month and a half, see it's not working and break it off.
13.She briefly goes back to her previous "bf" who fucks her once but then dumps him as well.
14.After some months of me doing other stuff we get back in contact and are friends now. She's a lesbian now. She destroys her relationship with some woman.
Still, in summer of 2014 she start dating one of my best friends but dumps him after a week or two, before they even had sex, because she now finally decided to be a full lesbian.
15.In early 2015 she has such a fight with her schizophrenic mother that she has to come to my place, which I don't want to allow her without fucking me. She does and is angry about it for some time, making a fuss over nothing, but eventually we go on being friends like nothing happened. After all, by that time connections are too strong and we share even some financial interests, along with co-operation in various areas. We depend on each other too much in any case. This helps mend any conflicts but the fact is also that we're by now used to each other and share some common traits - it's not like hate each other but have to tolerate each other. I like her as a person and we share a history.
Lessons:
modern Western women are completely insane. It's a waste of time to try and find logic in the actions. What they do is often as random as throwing a dice. So don't expect anything, especially anything good.
actual full lesbians don't exist
women in general base their appreciation of a man on how successful he is in attracting other women - how this is achieved and his objective qualities are irrelevant. You can be a smelly rapist with an IQ of 70, she will like you more than a virgin with an IQ of 170.
consent is a nonsensical concept in modern society. It's a word that is used to protect female chastity and husband's property, not ignoring the whims of some slut. Modern Western women will hate you if you think about consent. You need to show you have a spine and fuck them regardless of their stupid whims, or they won't respect you.
Relationships in the modern Western world are a joke. Your "gf's" or "wife's" pussy is everybody else's as well as "yours" - and laws are made that way too. There is basically nothing a husband or a boyfriend can do about a cheating wife and pathetic cucks will always protect these sluts. So have no qualms about fucking other men's wives or girlfriends in the West - if you won't somebody else will. Besides, the guy they claim to be with is doing the same to other men's "gf's" and "wives". Expect absolutely no fidelity of any "gf" you will have in a feminist culture - it's like expecting a cat to not eat that steak when you leave the cat with it in a room to go grocery shopping. Fidelity is achieved in a sane patriarchal culture by marrying women off as virgins, making being a slut an undesirable trait and not allowing any feminist laws. In the Western culture your "gf's" or "wives" pussy is E-V-E-R-Y-B-O-D-Y'S and she is not fit to be a caring wife and a mother. You will be raising some retard's children, not your own.
"Well parts of wise sociology is harm-reduction.
Say we have a person who is attracted to minors, and we construct the two opposing choices between 1) telling him that he is a monster and is going to offend sooner or later, and 2) telling him that he is a perv and lots of people are pervs and to stay clean off of minor-sex"
Neither of these is any harm reduction.
You explain why proposition nr 1 is wrong but what you should understand is that nr 2 is much, much worse.
- Calling somebody a "perv" would actually offend a sane person much more than the word "monster". A "perv" means... what? It sounds like a bunny dropping of a fifth rate mind.
-What do you care what lots of people are?
- Staying clean of minor sex is a horrible idea. First of all, bad/evil laws are there to be broken. And these laws are the epitome of evil so they should be broken, just like many German laws from WW2 should have been broken.
- The sole idea that somebody will abstain from sex due to laws in insane. It shows a fundamental misreading of human nature. You are like those idiots who tell incels to just "forget about women", while forgetting themselves that no incel would exist if their forefathers had "forgotten about women". A good advice to pedos should be- offend, offend, offend, as much as you can ! It is no offense at all. Of course one needs to worry about his safety as well as cops and many brainwashed civilians really enforce and believe in these laws but no sane human being will give up on sex due to laws. Horrible, abominable laws in that.
- You also forget the very important and ever present racial issue here. Most people who believe in these laws would also like to enforce laws in which you'd be hunted down and killed just for being white. They are dangerous, insane and shouldn't be listened to.
I am of Serbian heritage. During WW2 my ancestors lived in the notorious Independent State of Croatia, where hundreds of thousands of Serbs were murdered by the Ustasha movement. Yet, my ancestors fought against this, some of them joining the Yugoslav Partisans or going into hiding if they were too young. Other Serbs would flee to some other country nearby or join the Chetnik movement.
Despite the fact that the Serbian regime in the Kingdom of Yugoslavia was often brutal towards non-Serbs, there was nothing ordinary Serbs living in NDH did to deserve such pogroms.
So if some Ustasha during a WW2 captured a Serbian woman and dragged her to execute her Ustashas would be stunned and probably laughed themselves silly if her brother, husband or a father was going after them and begging them to allow him to break one of her legs or shouting at them to shoot her in the head because they're both monsters.
And bear in mind, this Serbian regime lasted until 1941, and WW2 in Yugoslavia from 1941 to 1945 !
Slavery ended in America and other places in the West over a hundred years ago, most regular Americans did nothing to harm the Muslims, blacks or their other holy groups, *certainly no living American participated in regular, state sanctioned slave trade while many of the Serbs that resisted from 1941 were a part of an oppressive regime before April 1941*, yet they would act just the way WW2 Serbs never did.
These imbeciles have no idea that it was other Africans who captured slaves for the Europeans and sold these to them, that Arabs held many slave trade routes in which the mortality of black slaves was much higher then on Western ships, that Barbary pirates were regularly capturing white slaves up to 19th century in the Mediterranean or that it were Western countries that ended slavery.
They are ridden with white guilt and so historically illiterate that I know they would be the ones doing what I described as something that WW2 Serbs would never do. Once blacks, Muslims or some other group liberals find sacred would try to capture or kill their women they'd actively encourage them to kill these women, screaming how they all must be punished for being monsters. I was just imagining one of these liberals running after a pack of blacks, Muslims or whatever other group liberals find sacred who are carrying his wife and begging them hysterically to let him harm her as well, to allow him to beat her more severely than they would, as if to somehow wash off their horrible sins. It made me laugh so hard.
What pathetic lunatic cucks liberals are.
Just looked at that thread. These lunatics are off their fucking rocker. Page 2 is basically them claiming I commented in their moronic thread (which I didn’t) and just commenting on that, despite the fact that I never ever wanted to comment there or did so. One of the craziest posters, a known lunatic and an admitted virgin who gives men dangerous advice and takes some “consent” nonsense as valid shows his inability to comprehend basic text one again, confusing you with me.
What’s so hilarious about these freaks is that for all their talk on “respect” of women or “anti-pedophilia” their ideology extends only to whites. They’d let their 3 day old newborn be raped by Muslims and niggers because Muslims and niggers lack privilege.
I am not an MRA because MRAs are manginas. We men could take down this system and bring back sanity by the end of the day. Women would not be able to stop us, since they lack our physical strength or access to weapons. Then we could make feminists and sluts into prostitutes, kill off all omega scumbag players and make a sane society with decent men and women. MRAs don't stand for that and erroneously believe that women are the problem when just looking at MRAs shows it is men who are the problem.
"No is because you don’t actually feel sorry for these people. To things like you stories of horrific assaults are just wank material for you."
I do feel sorry for people who get unjustified sentences due to maniacs like you and I don't wank on stories of horrific assaults. In fact, even as late as 2013 I COULDN'T GET IT UP WHEN A WOMAN I COERCED INTO SEX WAS THRASHING BELOW ME WHEN I TRIED TO PUT IT IN HER, despite the fact that 1. she came to my home 2. we already arranged what prize she should be given 3. she even blew me to get me hard to finally put it her 4. we even joked around later that day. This changed drastically later but what you don't understand is that most "horrific assaults" done to women today is caused by feminism, which made decent men unable to get consensual sex. That's why they must resort to rape - because consensual sex in the West is basically impossible to get unless you're really, really evil. There's exceptions but they're extremely rare.
" Hell one of your pedophile friends on you Wordpress blog asked a women victim to detail her date rape"
And what is wrong about this? Unlike maniacs like you, I don't fetishize rape to be some greatest crime and trauma on Earth. Oh, wait, neither do you if the rapist isn't a white male, and you'd let your mothers and sisters be raped by classes you see as underprivileged. But let's get back to this. This woman was under no obligation to reply so what? Btw, you know who also asks this of women who claim to have been raped? Institutions like courts do. Another thing you'd like to do away with !
"I made sure to spread his profile around to people who are willing to contact him and tell him what he outta do."
Where? To my e-mail? Nobody is even sending me any hate mail these days. Everybody knows I just get a kick out of it.
"Because of people like you I have the job that I have, out of all the hundreds of kids I’ve seen only 36 were abused by “child molesters.” "
If that's true I'd fear for the safety of anybody working with or being around such an insane, hysterical person. Adults, children, whatever. You are the ones with skeletons in your closet, I am probably not talking metaphorically. Just look at your post.
" The rest were attacked by pedophiles, pedophiles who caused lasting physical and mental injuries. Injuries so horrific some adults don’t even recover let alone a 3-year old who is repeatedly raped."
This isn't what Eivind is talking about, but now that you mention it I'll be honest - I'm not sorry. Regardless if kids were male or female, not sorry. I hate 99,9 percent of modernist Westerners and want only the worse for them. If some get abused, traumatized or even killed I don't care, no matter what the age. They would or are to grow up as bad, bad people. You are a grown up Westerner and you're a bad person. And so will/would they be.
" Pedophiles who drove 15 of these kids to kill themselves, deaths that I personally witnessed..... I’ve witnessed countless other suicide attempts by crazed victims who want their nightmares to stop....t. She killed herself when she was 10 years old not too long after I walked into an old run down shed after hearing her screaming and crying and telling the two pedophiles raping her to stop. Because of your kind she’s dead. I held her while she died and I will not forget that. I was 15-years old when she died, I still have the clothes I was wearing when she bled out. Her blood is still soaked into them and some days I have to struggle to not break down sobbing at that memory."
Holy shit I laughed so hard at this. This story continues here and here
http://theliterarylink.com/gretel.html
http://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm053.html
Also, how does a 10 year-old kill herself so efficiently? Tell me more about it. Or those 15 suicides you've witnessed.
" Your kind is a blight that must be purged. If only Hitler had killed you all, if only he could’ve killed you all, if only he didn’t target Jews and Romanis."
So aside from being utterly psychotic you also lack basic knowledge of history and think 2017 world was just like 1937 world ? Had Hitler gone after pedophiles (not that me and Eivind are that) he'd kill no more than couple of hundred of people at best even including countries he conquered, at even that's probably an overstatement. He'd have to kill just convicted ones who were convicted due to actual crimes the kind of which you describe and there were really a few people like that in 1930s. It was notoriously hard to even track who is homosexual without special lists at the time and many of the names were people who were set up for some reason while some gays were protected as long as they were useful (Ernst Röhm being a prime example of this).
". I hope someone finds you and kills you and each and every one of your baby raping friends too. "
I have never raped a baby nor has any friend that I know of. I think same goes for Eivind... You, on the other hand...
"Your kind is one without remorse or sympathy, you’re incapable of understanding right from wrong or caring about the pain you cause others."
... support blacks, Muslims or any other group you think lacks privilege raping and killing even newborns because they're Sacred according to you and cannot be held accountable. I know this and you know this. I know it in the way you write phrases like "far-right" or how you mention Trump. At the same time you want white males to have no fair trials, no hearings, just off to prisons with them. So why don't you just admit what you're all about? Because, believe me, I know what you're all about. I know you. You cannot pull the veil over my eyes. I will never stop fighting you because I know what you are. Don't forget that.
"People like you destroy lives."
Good.
"What makes you think you deserve anything good in life?"
Nothing, given that I never said this. What makes you think white males will go along with your idea that they must be exterminated but Sacreds can do as they like? What makes you think modern Western women deserve not to be raped by them?
"’m not a religious man, religion is false. But if Hell is real I hope you burn there, I hope you suffer every imaginable horror and humiliation both known and unknown."
Funny, exactly something I think about you and your kind.
" The day is coming when we’ll be able to openly kill your kind again. I can’t wait for this to happen."
There was never a day when you could have killed "our kind", given that people like me and Eivind were a majority even 50 years ago in most places. Hell, I mentioned 14 year-old eight graders with fuck buddies around 12 years ago. Nobody had a problem with this. It was seen as normal. That you equate those like Eivind and me with people who rape babies while you actually support babies being raped, just by appropriate groups of people, is why you're such a laughingstock.
No, pal, the kind of people who it will be legal to kill again soon are your kind. Liberalism didn't appear for the first time in history and always ended up with slaughter of liberals, before or after they destroyed the society which nourished them. You will be exterminated by Muslims you so worship and people like me.
You are guilty of most vicious crime in the history of the world, and that is feminism. I know what it did to me and many of my friends. There will be no forgiveness.
My parents did two mistakes-
A more obvious one is that they never did anything to help me with a phobia that made me unable to meet girls in the romantic context IRL until I was 18. This was something that can't be forgiven. It was obvious I can't and they did nothing.
In the long run, more importantly but something I can less blame them for - they never taught me to rape and maim women. But that I can understand more since this wasn't needed when they got married and became needed in my county only at the turn of a century in case of men who can't use seduction.
A modern woman is an insane sexual receptacle. She cannot understand the idea of any relationship. She just wants to be fucked and tossed and will hate anybody who fails to do so.
A non-seductive man who doesn't break a woman's legs, spine and teeth is immediately seen as a loser.
You post so much about morality, but isn’t seducing girls by pretending to be younger than you are somewhat immoral?
Not if you follow the OT morality. These girls aren't a member of my group, since I reject the liberal West. In my view, I could kill them and it wouldn't matter a goddamn thing.
I am a limited political pedophile.
What does this mean?
I am not attracted to female children below the age of 12, but I would still have sex with a modern Western female even younger, even a toddler.
Why?
Because I hate almost all modern Western women and don't care what happens to them. I know they will all become worthless sluts who will fuck the dirtiest men around (actual omegas - http://www.coalpha.org/Misuse-of-terms-l...95159.html) and that they will reject any male who will be interested in a serious relationship, let alone marriage. They might marry a beta when they're 35 or so just so he can feed their disgusting omega spawn but even then they'll fuck dirtbags who will still have them.
I don't care what happens to almost any Western female toddler (excluding women from sane groups in the West, like Amish, Mormons, Mennonites or Orthodox Jews). Would I get hard on 3 year old female toddler were I to get one? I don't know, I honestly haven't been with one before. But even if I could not, I'd still try to lick its vagina or something like that, just for experiment. I suspect it would be easier with some developed girl who is like 11. I have no doubt I'd be attracted to her and would fuck her well.
The point isn't attraction. Were I attracted to below 12 jailbaits I'd be sure I could get it hard even for a 3 year-old, but I can't be sure of that right now for reasons I've mentioned - a) I am not attracted to them now b) I have never been with somebody who is, like, a toddler.
The point is something else completely -as a modern Western female, you have no rights in my eyes. You are lost, broken, tainted, worthless. You will never be anything than a public urinal. You have no capability of being a good wife or a mother.
On the other hand, I'd never act in ways I described with a female from a non-feminist country !
So in that sense I am a political pedophile, in a limited sense (I am not a political pedophile toward non-feminist women).
Any questions?
"You declare Marc Lepine a saint for gunning down 28 people in cold blood because he didn't like feminists"
Yes, this is a good thing. Feminists are the reality's equivalent of Satan so gunning some women to oppose feminism is a good thing. I am aware that not all of these women considered themselves feminists but this is of no importance. They all likely held basic feminist beliefs, given that they were female students at a male dominated field.
"and then taking the coward's way out. "
Oh please. Many of you freaks even call Breivik a coward. What the hell is a brave way out to you after such acts? Dying in a shootout with the police?
(Caamib's translation of an article about an interview between him and German news magazine Der Spiegel in 2014)
Male, single, life-threatening
The man who killed six people in Santa Barbara in May, was a member of an obscure community: So-called Incels live involuntarily as single, and some develop a hatred of women, which can be fatal. Who are these men?
Written by Takis Strangler
Marijan says there are people in his community who hate the summer. In summer they have no choice but to see more of the women, their skin, their bare knees, tight clothes and their breasts. Marijan says he does not look at women, and he was trying to avoid places where he has to see naked female skin. He says: "If you're hungry but cannot eat, you're not going into a street fully loaded with cakes."
Marijan, 26, from Zagreb wishes a girlfried, and because he’s unable to find one, he experiences his life as a torment. He is lonely, but in his loneliness he is not alone. His community meets on the Internet.
He belongs to a group of people who answer to the moniker "Incel", which is the abbreviation for the English term "involuntary celibacy”. Marijan frequents forums in which an own culture of solitude has developed.
People who gather there are almost always men, a few hundred in total. How many there are exactly, can be difficult to estimate, there are English, German, Dutch, Australians and especially Americans.
One of them wrote in the past year on an internet forum: "One day the Incels will realize their true strength and number and overthrow the oppressive feminist system. Imagine a world in which the WOMEN FEAR YOU. "
The author of these lines was student Rodger Elliot. On 23 May this year, Rodger (22), from Santa Barbara, California, recorded a video from himself. He put the camera on the dashboard of his BMW and sat behind the wheel.
He said: "This is my last video. Tomorrow is the day of retribution. The day on which humanity will experience my retaliation. Which you all will experience. In the past eight years of my life, since I reached puberty, I was forced to endure loneliness, an existence full of rejection and unrequited desire. All just because women never felt attracted to me. In the last years I rotted in solitude. "
Now and then Rodger laughed in the camera, a handsome young man with black hair and white teeth. Through the window of his car palm trees were visible.
A short time later, he killed three fellow students in his apartment. Forensic scientists examine which weapon he used. The wounds of the corpses are not clear. The police secured fingerprints on two machetes, a knife and a hammer.
When the men were dead, Rodger took his Sig Sauer P226, his Glock 34 and two semi-automatic pistols, and went out in the neighboring community of Isla Vista. He knocked at the house of a sorority. Nobody answered him.
A few steps further on he shot two students. He went into a snackbar and shot and killed a customer. Then he climbed into his car, drove through the town and shot at passers-by, injuring 13 people.
He rammed his BMW into a cyclist, slammed into a parked car and killed himself with a shot in the head. Rodger left a few videos and a 137-page manifesto. In it are phrases like: "Women are like a plague. They are like animals, completely controlled by their animalistic instincts, and corrupt feelings and impulses. "
Many men who became lone gunmen have, as Rodger had, a sick relation with women in general. Eric Harris, one of the boys involved in the 1999 at Columbine High School shooting in the United States, killing 13 people and killed himself, wrote in his diary: "Maybe I just need to have sex. Perhaps that would change this shit. "
And his accomplice Dylan Klebold wrote: "I do not know what I do wrong with people (especially women) - it is, as if they hate me and scare me. "
During a shooting rampage in Winnenden in 2009 Tim Kretschmer killed eight female students, three female teachers and a male student in his former school.
In the same year the American George Sodini shot three women and wounded nine more, before taking his own life in a gymstudio. Previously, he had written in his blog:
"Women simply don’t like me. There are 30 million desirable women in the United States (is my estimate) - and I find none "!
These gunman leave questions:
Why people had to die? Exists there a connection between the murders and the loneliness of the perpetrators? What has this incel community from the Internet to do with the murders?
Rodger can answer no longer, and even if he could, he could hardly give any clear answers. But there are people who understand a few of his thoughts. Because they share his anger at women and his loneliness. One of them is Marijan (not his real name). You can reach him on his blog, thatincelblogger.wordpress.com.
After a few emails he agreed to meet, in Zagreb, Croatia, his hometown.
Before a pizzeria near the Cathedral a handsome young man, tall, with jet black hair and a three-day beard is waiting, he wears a white, loose T-shirt and cropped trousers.
While shaking hands he does not look one in the eyes. As he sits at a table, in the back, in a quiet corner of the restaurant, he says: "I'm going to look bad in the article, but what have I got to lose? "
He says he was angry after Rodgers rampage. The whole world again only talked about tougher gun laws. But no one thought about other reasons that drove Rodgers to his rampage. No one had thought about incel.
Marijan talks much and long. He doesn’t allow a lot of questions. It is less a conversation but rather a series of lectures, which he conducts with great precision.
Sentence after sentence, lecture to lecture, he leads the listener deeper into his world, deeper into the darkness in which there seems to be no happiness, only immeasurable hatred.
Excerpts from lecture one, subject: Women.
Women are simply designed robots with the desire to procreate. Young women in past generations always had help from their grandmother. She helped with finding a man. She said: This is a good type, he will take care of you. These grandmothers were replaced with the magazine Cosmopolitan. Today women want to marry up. They want improve their station. I would not say that we Incels hate women. But if you were rejected 50 times, then you develop negative feelings, which is normal.
Excerpts from lecture two, Topic: seduction game.
Women can now provide for themselves, so their preferences have changed from breadwinners to seducers. A minority of men has sex with the majority of women. The successful men are the Bad Boys. If you want to have a woman today, you need to become a Bad Boy and lose your ethics.
Excerpts from lecture three, theme: a better world.
I want a society in which a group of men cooperates in total trust. Each man gets a woman. The women are fairly distributed. People are monogamous and marry as a virgin. If a man wants sexual diversity, he goes to a prostitute. Feminists would be made prostitutes in this society. When a man tries to seduce multiple woman, he is killed instantly.
Marijan and other Incels meet on various forums on the Internet. the forum, that Elliot Rodger used, is now closed. Another is a relatively moderate forum called love-shy.com. The members speak there about topics such as pick-up lines, plastic surgery and other ways to escape their despair.
The users of the forum had opened a discussion about Elliot Rodger. On the first page a moderator writes that he condemns the deed and that Rodger did not reflect the philosophies of loveshy.com. The moderator announces that all posts glorifying the deed will be deleted.
One user writes on one of the later pages: "I think about Elliot Rodger ... why didn’t he just rape a slut at gunpoint? "
Another user wrote: "I was always taught to respect women and not to be sexually aggressive. That was a bucket full of shit. All what they really want is a muscle man who fucks them in the ass instead of fucking a real person with feelings”
A user writes on one of the last pages about Rodger: "He is a martyr, in the real sense of the word, one must give him that. "
On the forum Marijan calls himself "Dante Alighieri”, as the medieval poet. Dante started his poem “the Divine Comedy” with the words: "Halfway through the path of human life I found /myself in a devious dark forest/ Because I strayed from the right path."
On the morning after the first meeting Marijan wears the same clothes as on the day before. He says he did not sleep well, because the conversation had him stirred. In the café he ordered a chocolate cake and tells his life story.
Marijan grew up in a middle class family, he has a brother, and both parents were employeed. In school he had many years of little contact with girls. As he started to get interested in girls, they were alien to him. He was afraid of them. "My brain has not developed normally, " Marijan says. He was "love-shy". The American psychology professor Brian Gilmartin invented this term in 1987. The men who suffer from this condition complain about their complete inability to enter into a romantic relationship.
Some men report panic attacks, when they are alone with women, some break out in sweat, others can hardly move anymore when they think of a date, to which they look forward to. Marijan developed a morbid fear of women mingled with a steadily growing demand for a relationship with a woman.
He says: "My standards are very low, as long as the woman is not overweight or is unhygienic. And I have trouble with bad teeth. "
At 19, he met a girl through an SMS Chat. She was 16 and said to Marijan, that she wanted to sleep with him. She showed him how she likes to be kissed. The girl became Marijans girlfriend. He was happy for a moment.
Then she went on vacation over the summer to an island. Before parting, Marijan was angry because he did not want her to go, and told her that maybe they should become just friends.
The girl went anyway. Marijan sent her many SMSes and self-written poems. When she returned, she told him that she no longer liked him. Marijan could not cry for three days. Then when he finally cried, he didn’t go to the university for months and stuffed himself full with chocolate. He didn’t get over it, says Marijan. After one year he wrote on an Incel forum on the internet that he was planning on shooting himself and the girl. The owners of this forum contacted Interpol. Marijan got a visit of the Croatian police.
He testified that he no longer wanted to kill. The policemen nevertheless arrested him and charged him with the suspicion of murder threats and put him in pre-trial detention. After a month a judge released Marijan because he hadn’t threatened anyone directly. The judge said, so tells Marijan: "Maybe you’ll meet another woman just outside the court."
It was followed by two years without a kiss.
As Marijan turned 24 years old, he wrote on an Internet forum that he was a male virgin and looking for a woman, that would deflower him. A Croatian woman contacted him, visited him in Zagreb, slept with him and then said that he was pathetic , as he tells it.
In the years after he managed to bed three other women. "One of them was crazy and
a total bitch, "says Marijan. When she left him for another, he remained lying in bed for months, he says. He thought about suicide, and spent five days in a psychiatric ward.
Later he earned a degree in Medieval History at the Zagreb University. But he never wanted to work, because, as he says, he didn’t want to pay taxes that will reward sluts.
Today he says he no longer dates because he never want to feel disappointment again. He’s been alone for a year.
Most gunmen send out signals before their deeds, signals which could have been interpreted as warnings in retrospect. Allusions, threats, videos on the Internet.
Some gunman stuck a note on the school toilet wall, on which was written: "Tomorrow you're dead." Some men start wearing black clothes and leather jackets before they act. Elliot Rodger wrote his fantasies on blogs.
Marijan says: "There are a lot of broken people waiting to die. And he says:" I do not know when I will snap. " This English word "Snap" has several meanings. It can mean break, tear or explode. Marijan says: "I think Incel that can cause people to shoot or kill with a bomb. "
He smiles, it seems as if he enjoy the moment. Psychologists and psychiatrists that deal with school shootings, try to explain why men kill women, but women almost never kill men. Testosterone was one reason, the researchers say, and gender roles are also to blame, since men are more likely to resolve conflict with force and women are more likely to retreat. At the end they still lack a satisfactory explanation.
The FBI, the American Federal - police, writes in a report about shootings at schools that offenders are often focused on perceived injustices. One goes through life and picks out everything, that offends them. Every stupid comments of a classmate is remembered, each breakup with a girl finds his place in the collection of misery, until someone thinks the whole society is against you.
Many gunman also like to play videogames, where it’s the goal to shoot people’s head off. And many suffer from a narcissistic disorder.
But correlation does not equate causation, so no handy formula like this one can be derived: loneliness + computer games + narcissism = rampage. There are many lonely, narcissistic gamers who never shoot people.
In the life of a crazed gunman something happens, that the psychiatrists and psychologists cannot explain. Evil is sometimes greater than a simple explanation.
The assassin who tried in 1981 to shoot U.S. President Ronald Reagan, said when interviewed: "You know a few things about me, sweetheart, for example, that I’m obsessed with fantasy, but why don’t you understand, that fantasy in my world becomes reality? "
Another gunman from the USA heard voices that told him: "You have to kill all. You have to kill the whole world. "
According to Wikipedia: "The trigger of a rampage is a combination of an advanced psychosocial uprooting of the offender, the loss of professional integration through unemployment, demotion or transfer, increasingly experienced insults and partnership conflicts. "
After all, what Marijan tells about himself, he has few friends, no job, no partner, and he experiences his life as an insult, which becomes greater each passing dayl. Those looking for long enough, will realize that the template fits him.
The last meeting with Marijan is in the evening and takes place in a restaurant, again at a table away from the other guests. It is a warm evening, but Marijan sits down inside the restaurant, the place where no one else sits. He says that he wished that women have the right to vote taken away.
Then he says that he once tried to kill himself with sleeping pills, but one and a half days later he had woken up. His eyes light up with pleasure when he takes on the theme rampage. Then he unleashes the bad thoughts from his mind in the world. He says: "I will cause dissatisfaction. I want to make people angry. I do not think that I'm going to kill people. " After a moment of silence, he says: "I want to spread a little panic. "
He again starts talking about similar topics as on the first day, always it comes to women, and always it comes to himself, he says: "I've started to see women as the filth that they are. " A little later he says: "I do not like people."
This article attempts to explain about the Incel community and the research leads to different men, who identify as Incel. One dreams of to find a farm where Incels can live together. The farm dwellers could agree to import women from Mexico and divided them amongst themselves. One sat with radiant eyes in a small German town and told of how he overcame his fear of women by simply spending more time with women. He looked happy and said it was probably a good idea if the Incel forums were monitored by psychiatrists to ensure that the users can find professional help.
Another hopes to, finally, in his mid-twenties, to kiss a woman. A few of these men seem lost. Nobody seems dangerous. And in end it became clear that there is no Incel community. There are only a few lonely men.
Many men from the Incel community can simply find no partner and look for help on the internet. For them the forums can perhaps save them. For other men the forums offer the opportunity to cultivate their hatred in a group.
For 20 years, such people would remain in their hole, alone with their bad thoughts. Probably a man is difficult to love when he is full of hatred. While carrying these thoughts, it’s possible to want to kill everyone around you and yourself. The potential gunman becomes Incel. And not the Incel a potential gunman.
Elliot Rodger was in his mid twenties when he died, he had visited several therapists, he had been bullied at school, he had his own blog on the Internet.
Marijan is mid-twenties, he has visited several therapists, he was bullied at school, he wrote his own blog on the Internet. One was a mass murderer. The other meets with a journalist and eats chocolate cake.
Rodger left us with the question:
Why did six people have to die? There is no logical explanation. His 137-page manifesto that he wrote before he became a murderer, ends raving about the prospect of killing people. It shall be the punishment for not getting a woman who loves him. Rodger has named the work "My fucked-up world ". He writes that he will retaliate and punish everyone. The last sentence of the manuscript is as follows:
"Finally, I can show true value to the world. "And in the penultimate sentence Elliot Rodger, 22, a young man from California, who had his whole life before him writes: "And it will be beautiful."
Marijan wrote recently a new entry on his blog. He analyzed why he is lonely: "I finally understand the depths of madness and sexism in our society. All the betrayal, the whole heartless and horrible behavior of women were seen as my fault. That is hatred. "
Just punched a nigger in head
There are a lot of niggers in a city where I work. Some were shouting something right now on a busy street, annoying me to no end after a full day's work. I just wanted to sit down somewhere and have a beer while watching World Cup. So I approached one of these monkeys from behind and punched it from behind in the head. It fell down and before his stupid friends could react I punched him once again with my foot and started running away. I heard some yelling behind me but I easily managed to dissappear in the crowd.
Those opposing incel violence should remember that a) this violence is caused by deprivations no sentient being should feel b) they don't oppose violence against straight white males. To them, these are all lice that must be exterminated.
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Your idea rests on the incorrect assumption that "children" (a term which you use even for older teens like those at 17) are somehow inherently incapable of giving consent. It is not so. In the past some girls entered marriage even at 10 years old.
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I'm sorry your 13 year-old daughter got ran over and killed, Ms. Smith, but at least no dirty male looked at her ! So rejoice about that, as it is far more important.
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Any decent man masturbating must have his fingers broken. Your penis is a weapon. Use it.
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I'd beat the living fuck of any woman who claimed to be incel.
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If you're wanted by any modern Western woman there is something wrong with you. Only non-consensual sex with modern Western women is right.
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If my grandfather opened fire on women in his town during the 1940s they'd be disgusted and scared. Modern Women would be attracted....
Maybe I should look up my daughter when she's already 11?
It wouldn't make that much of a difference and might save me an year of waiting. Judging by her mother she'll be a complete slut so why bother waiting until she's 12? Plus they might move in an year.
[Do you disagree that it's sometimes the logical action for an individual to take?]
I don't disagree that it's sometimes a logical action to take. This is more of a rule to ban those "Kill yourself" assholes, but then again they could be banned by some other rules for saying that. That being said, I think there's always at least a small degree of hope in your life. Take yourself for example. Most people would say you're living a failed life and in some sense you are. But at the same time you've made more difference than most morons who work 9-5 jobs do.
There's another reason. I'd much prefer people who wanna commit suicide going ER. It would kill some Western scum and give more attention to the site. Them offing themselves in empty rooms, not so much. But I can't put that into rules.
(hydrolythe)
Inceldom is lame.
That's because it's built upon a sociological theory that can easily be proven false by basic psychology. (If all women wanted to sleep with chads, then why is hybristophilia a mental disorder?) At least Aristotle appealed to the essence of men and women when defending patriarchy. This is a notion many still uphold today.
If a man from Ancient Greece has a better theory than you for explaining things you have a resounding failure of a theory in your hands.
(https://www.reddit.com/r/incelconversations/comments/as3rch/inceldom_is_lame/)
Your post is extremely poorly thought out. I'd call you an idiot but it would be an insult to all the idiots.
That's because it's built upon a sociological theory that can easily be proven false by basic psychology. (If all women wanted to sleep with chads, then why is hybristophilia a mental disorder?)
Because the term/concept were developed at a time when feminism hasn't yet completely mutilated Western societies.
]At least Aristotle appealed to the essence of men and women when defending patriarchy. This is a notion many still uphold today. If a man from Ancient Greece has a better theory than you for explaining things you have a resounding failure of a theory in your hands.
What does any of this have to do with anything you state before ? Also, you almost certainly don't even know what specific theories fschmidt has and incels have vastly different theories on what causes their problem. You just lump it all together and you don't even explain what Aristotle was saying and why his ideas are better than... whose ideas exactly?
Fucking lunatic.
(hydrolythe)
Because the term/concept were developed at a time when feminism hasn't yet completely mutilated Western societies.
Ah yes, the "feminism mutilates". If you think that writing "women are equal to men" in the constitution is a form of mutilation you have explained what's wrong with you indeed.
What does any of this have to do with anything you state before ?
If a misogynist from more than 2000 years ago has a better theory for justifying misogyny than you do you know you have a massive failure of a theory on your hands.[quoe]You just lump it all together and you don't even explain what Aristotle was saying and why his ideas are better than... whose ideas exactly?
Indeed. I've yet to see a theory incels have for their suffering other than the blackpill. The fact that you think incels are a diverse group of people when in actuality they force eachother into one rigid streamlined thought where any diversion has to be eliminated shows an incredible lack of awareness. And I don't care if liberals have another theory for their suffering. I care what they themselves actually think.
And in case you haven't noticed. Aristotle was much better (although still wrong) than incels ever will be.
(Sans_Logique)
If you think that writing "women are equal to men" in the constitution is a form of mutilation you have explained what's wrong with you indeed.
Anybody can write down whatever they want. I can write down that "men can fly and women have 7 breasts" and nothing will happen. But when I try to live by such nonsense is where problems happen in society. Men and women are not equal and trying to live by that lie kills a society pretty quickly.
I don't know what's "wrong" with me and I don't think it's up to you to tell me, given that you don't know anything about me or Aristotle or incels or whatever the fuck you ramble about,
You also did nothing to address my point, which is that hybristophilia was rare and thus a disorder before feminist plague wiped out any intelligence and morality. Today's Western women are very attracted to violent, immoral men and putting a bullet through a woman's brain will attract other women much more than any honesty, decency or morality. Raping and executing a woman is attractive to women in feminist societies much more than being intelligent or decent can ever be - being anything more than scum repels modern Western women
If a misogynist from more than 2000 years... something about theories
Aristotle wasn't a misogynist. Judging by your insanity anybody before 150 years ago or so would be a misogynist in this case. Nobody who lived before that time would even think of something as retarded as giving women the vote or believing that they were equal to men. His theory (which I am not familiar with and you don't bother to explain it) wasn't to "justify" anything but came out of his own pondering. You can't apply 2019 idiocy to a man who lived in 4th century BC.
Indeed.
Indeed what? Do you even know what you're replying to?
I've yet to see a theory incels have for their suffering other than the blackpill.
Umm, really? I don't know how you define the term "blackpill" at all but there are several explainations to why incel happens in a society that don't claim looks are a cause. Read
http://www.mikraite.org/Human-Evolution-td17.html
https://caamib.wordpress.com/the-story-of-your-incel-an-inconvenient-truth/
shows an incredible lack of awareness
Actually, you are the one with the incredible lack of awareness, equating the term that has existed since 1997 and that many people define and see differently with a stupid sub culture that appeared in 2016. If you actually read https://caamib.wordpress.com/2018/06/05/dissecting-the-disaster-how-the-term-incel-got-taken-over-by-the-worst-people-and-what-to-do-about-it/ you'd see that this all started when a bunch of morons from sites like Lookism and Sluthate overtook the term after Caamib was banned from Reddit. His way of running things was different and focused on rape, low ages of consent, Islam and positive thinking. You could have investigated and read about older incel forums, like Love-shy.com or the now defunct Incel Support to see what they're about. Instead you just blather like an idiot.
I care what they themselves actually think.
Yet you never bothered to research it at all and are showing breathtaking ignorance.
Your last sentence is also breathtakingly ignorant as we have already established that no one man can be better at anything than a very disparate group under a very disparate term.
Do I need to repeat myself? I'd call you an idiot but it would be an insult to all the idiots.
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How risky
@Jayce
I need help I’ve been thinks of ways like getting an unregistered car and kidnapping women rape them then let them go but I don’t want to get caught
First of all, you should not feel sorry about any of that. Liberals want everything white that moves raped and killed simply due to ideology so how can you be even as bad as that? How can you be worse than a liberal who is incel but wouldn't rape or a liberal who isn't incel but both want everything white around them raped by nonwhites? And just due to their indoctrination.
An unregistered car is a great precaution, but letting a raped woman go has its risks - how far away from your place of residence will you catch and release one? They might report the kidnapping more than rape btw. The safest way is to kill a woman and dispose of the body, for which there would be no evidence of any murder ever happening (people go missing all the time) but this requires some knowledge and logistics, plus you might not have the stomach for it.
What's really important is that you don't carry any phones around and immediately dispose of her phone - phones can be easily traced today.
Where would you store the woman and how long would you have her kidnapped? Just in the car for some hours?
