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littleowl12 #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: I'm not sure if Trans Ideology is a new religious movement, even in the quasi sense, actually.

Religious people can be contradictory, but TRAs can't NOT be contradictory. Young Earth Creationists are delulu, but they do have a consistent belief. They don't believe in evolution and creationism at the same time. TRAs of the NB type believe that gender is both meaningless and crucial. The "tru scum" are more consistent with their "mind of a woman/man" silliness but they also believe that the body does not make you your gender, but it must somehow be corrected since yes it does make you your gender.

While religious people can be self-contradictory, they can also be consistent. (In being wrong).

Religious people can also be honest in a way TRAs can't. They might accept that no one else is buying their crap and they'll just have to smugly pity the nonbelievers. The TRA needs something out of you, however. Right now. He needs you to let him into your bathrooms. She needs you to accept her into your gay men's night club. He needs you to let him into your sport. She needs you to pay for her metoidioplasty.

If the TRA doesn't get results, it's not about you not Seeing The Light. That's not what they're grieving. They can't be satisfied with "well at least I'm saved!" because they wanted a material benefit out of you. If they don't get into women's spaces, or free "top surgeries" then the project is a failure.

mathlover & hmimperialtortie #transphobia ovarit.com

TRAs support rape by deception

( mathlover )
The only reason any of them ever suggest disclosing is if a male larping as a woman wants to have sex with another male. They do advise each other about this. But the disclosure is due to the fear of being beaten or killed by the other man when he finds out he has been deceived, and that fear only applies when the prey is another male. The het men larping as lesbians discuss trying to successfully deceive lesbians if they (the men) get their junk made into a fauxgina. Obviously almost none of them get this surgery and no lesbian would be fooled anyway. But the fantasy - which is rape - is ubiquitous.

The actual biological sex of dating/sex partners matters - critically, as in it is a dealbreaker - to 99.999999999999......% of people in the world. They know this but have zero personal integrity and no respect for others. That is how a rapist feels.

Ideally, whenever someone pretending to be the opposite sex (ie: "trans") meets someone where there is any possibility of dating or sex, the first thing they should say is "Hi, I'm Fakegirlname and I'm trans". And learn to live with the fact that nearly everyone is going to walk away.

( hmimperialtortie )
I’ve said for some time TRA stands for Transvestite Rape Advocates.

Carrots90 & pennygadget #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Sex Reassignment Surgery Market Latest Trends, Size, Key Players, Revenue and Forecast 2028

( Carrots90 )
This will end well, I’m sure

Bill Gates doesn’t need to worry about overpopulation.

Society is literally supporting putting up our confused young people to get ‘spayed and neutered’

( pennygadget )

Society is literally supporting putting up our confused young people to get ‘spayed and neutered’

I can see the commercials now....

"You have a child who is acting too autistic or too gay? Please get them spayed or neutered today. Its the compassionate thing to do"

( Carrots90 )
Then they can have a commercial with Sarah McLachlan singing ‘In the Arms of an Angel” in the background for kids/people-who-identify-as-kids who need gender affirming procedures but can’t get them

“This is Cody. He needs a lifesaving teet yeeting. But his evil, transphobic parents are stopping him, asking him to at least first process the trauma he suffered when molested by the volleyball coach he thought he could trust. (It was odd, because this coach otherwise only molested girls. Cody, though afab, is a boy and was always a boy. We have no idea why Cody was targeted.)”

“This is Kumiko Wasabi. Though she has the support of her wonderful dad, Joe Smith, she unfortunately has a TERF mother, Rebecca Jones. The hateful, and likely jealous, Rebecca got the court to STOP Kumiko from having a wonderful and life affirming vagina installed, and ‘certain excess tissue’ removed. Rebecca was just throwing things to see what would stick. Unrelated and off topic accusations like ‘Joe would call him a f-g for liking dolls and Beyonce’ and ‘Joe beat him for kissing the neighbors son’.

“Now, we don’t condone violence, but many super protective fathers want to keep their daughters virtue intact-he is single, ladies”

“And lastly we have Veronica Sparkle Vag. She is a single mother who needs some big mommy milkers. The birthing parent took the kids out of state, leaving Miss SparkleVag has very little to live on. Per the divorce agreement, birthing parent has to pay 2 years of rent, but you can’t eat an apartment. All of the alimony Miss SparkleVag gets goes to just staying alive. She has to get food delivered since birthing parent used to do all the cooking and shopping. [...]

[Deleted] #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Some real world LGB issues that major organizations are neglecting in favor of Trans Woo

I just don't get it. There was so MUCH to be done after gay marriage was won in some Western nations. Literally anything would have been a good target, hell, lesbians are women and women's rights are still barely a thing. 2% of rapes ever get investigated. All this money could have done soooooooo much good in the world.

And they decided they'd use this money to destroy women's rights, women's safety, women's dignity, child rape safeguarding. They used the money to destroy hundred thousands, maybe millions, of healthy bodies forever. Traumatize millions forever.

I really hope they will pay for this, but history tells me they won't. Not the surgeons and the stonewall people anyway. Now the TIMs with their mutilated body and their forever single life because no woman wants to go near that, they will suffer. So will the women with chronic pain, early onset dementia. But i fear the ones most responsible will walk, and will have made a lot of money, to add insult to injury.

Euterpe #transphobia ovarit.com

Mother Rowling's Radfem Rhymes #19?

Verse 1:

If your son is in your wardrobe, get him out!¹ (x2)

Teach a lesson while you can, before he grows into a man, so²

If your son is in your wardrobe, get him out!

Verse 2:

If your daughter's into girls, then it's okay! (x2)

Oh, the world would be much better if we dropped the final letters!

If your daughter's into girls, then it's okay!

Verse 3:

If their schools are teaching bullshit, pull them out!³ (x2)

Things can quickly turn out sour when the men have all the power,⁴

If their schools are teaching bullshit, pull them out!

Verse 4:

If they still say they're dysphoric, take 'em outside!⁵ (x2)

Nature's such a good solution to the whole gender confusion,⁶

If they still say they're dysphoric, take 'em outside!

Verse 5:

If they're always on the web, then shut it down!⁷ (x2)

They could put themselves in danger if they're having chats with strangers,

If they're always on the web, then shut it down!

Verse 6:

If your husband drinks the Kool-Aid, turn away!⁸ (x2)

Try to emphasize prevention, for he jerks off to attention,

If your husband drinks the Kool-Aid, turn away!

Footnotes

¹ - This might entail physically locking your wardrobe, or even adapting a more "boring" wardrobe, if the situation necessitates such.

² - I am decidedly not one of those terven who believe in "normalizing men in dresses/skirts" or "clothes should be clothes". Feel free to disagree in the comments if you'd like, but from firsthand experience as a mother of two boys I am assured that Little Timmy stealing your attire is almost always predictive of a dangerous fetish (AGP), and if you're a mother in a similar situation you should make it clear that boys and men do not dress like that, rather than reinforcing his passions.

³ - I recommend Catholic schools, even if your household isn't Catholic. They're surprisingly liberal for what you might think.

⁴ - Just as they have been for almost all of history.

⁵ - This is surprisingly effective for trans-identified youth of both semesters. I cannot recommend it more highly.

⁶ - Here's a question to muse upon. If a man transitioned to a woman in the middle of the forest, is he still trans?

⁷ - This is unfortunately getting harder and harder to do in today's era, I'm afraid. But still, make every effort to try!

Medusa91 , hypatia & OneryBox #transphobia ovarit.com

White TIM on Twitter is told where to go when he defends BW being called "birthing people"
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( Medusa91 )
I’m so convinced that there is a heavy, heavy incel and neonazi cross over that become TIMs, like yeah a lot got groomed by porn or people “cracking eggs” but there’s so many white TIMs who use their status of “oppressed trans woman” to shout down and cancel black women and women of colour who speak out (they’ve got their fair share of white handmaidens too).

I’m white and honestly pretty ignorant all things considered but I see it so often that it’s really peaked my interest.

They’re the first to be like:

Support black owned buisness 🥰

Friendly reminder to center black voices 🤗

ACAB/ BLM ✊🏽 ✊🏾 ✊🏿

But then the moment they don’t agree with something that a (particularly) black woman has said they shout her down, cancel her, drag her buisness and professional life etc.

Diverting slightly but they love to speak over WOC too, I was on diet paradas Instagram page the other day and they were talking about some shitty woman who sold a fake vintage bag in her vintage boutique, there was video footage of the black woman who had purchased the bag trying to return it to the store and explain to the owner why she was annoyed, it was filmed by her husband and uploaded to the internet. But diet Prada, who’s one of the biggest fashion Instagram pages, ended the videos with a white effeminate man (idk if he was gay or a gender special or what) talking about his OUTRAGE at how this could happen to this poor black woman. Like…? She’s not a child why didn’t you contact her or her husband for a statement? Who’s this nobody speaking for her? She’s a grown woman she can speak for herself? Anyone who watched the videos she and her husband uploaded understood the situation but we’ve gotta make sure to have the white man with his sassy attitude and highlighter hair colour remind us why this is bad.

It was… it really rubbed me the wrong way.

( hypatia )
The neonazi to transcel pipeline is definitely real, enough so that it's a stereotype

( OneryBox )
I completely agree with the incel/neonazi crossover. There are way too many similarities between them and TiMs. And the minute you give white men "ultimate victim status" they're going to talk over and degrade POC and women.

IckabogLady & OneOddBird #transphobia ovarit.com

(IckabogLady )
If Roe had ended in the mid-2000s, I would've 100% become a TIF and that's terrifying
Puberty is a difficult time for young girls. When I was a preteen it was so difficult and the gender discourse wouldn't be a thing for another 10 years. I had constant comments about how big my breasts were for someone my age and received a lot of stares from older men...even from family members. It was traumatizing. When I got my period I didn't even tell my mother for a whole year because I was so embarrassed.

If transgenderism had been popular back then, I would've considered it (or at least I would've delved into the non-binary they/them/she/theirs shit). But if abortion had been outlawed, I could've seen myself going full TIF. Being a woman in a world that hates women would've been too much to handle at 11 years old. Knowing that I could get raped and my state would allow the rapist to sue me for having an abortion, that a rape sentence would be less than a 'murder' sentence for abortion, and that I could get the death penalty for abortion would've just made me completely check out of womanhood.

It's no wonder that young girls in the 2020s would rather chop their hair off, bind their breasts, and change the pronouns than be female in a world that wants to take away their bodily autonomy. Pregnancy can change your whole skeletal structure. It can make you depressed. And it's fucking life threatening, especially for black women in America. It can derail your career. It can tie you to an abusive boyfriend for the rest of your life. It can get you murdered if the man doesn't want to be a father.

I always felt sorry for TIFs, but now that this Roe discussion has begun I feel sadder for them than I ever have before. Maybe if America treated girls better they'd be happier being who they are.

( OneOddBird )
This is tragic and 100% agree. I don’t think that it’s a coincidence that the TIF tumblr phenomena took root in 2014, a year when the first prominent incel femicide happened in Isla Vista and states were still going back and forth on the abortion debate. The female body has been under siege for a long while and as women get more successful in the public eye the visual terrorism committed against our bodies increases. It’s no surprise many girls decide to opt out or develop mental health problems from this horrific strain on their identities

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

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( poem998 )
this is enraging. it shows clearly that this person thinks of life as a video game. "girl mode" for him is a reality for others. he can change his clothes and still benefit from his male privilege. he uses the "girl mode" to get an erection. to me it is very clear, it is a paraphilia. he does it all for sexual gratification and it also tells us what he thinks of women and girls. they are sexual objects. "girl mode" to him is associated with the word "cok" written on the baseball cap and "fk my a*" written on the T-shirt. in women's bathrooms, women enter with their children, boys or girls because it's safer than entering a men's bathroom with toddlers. I see mothers all the time entering women's bathrooms with their little ones because in the men's bathroom, men could be having sex among each other or they may just be swinging their penises at other people. of course, this very deranged male doesn't think of the children potentially seeing him or hearing him masturbating in a stall.

( SometimesJacka )
This feels like it has to be satire / bait.

And yet… I know it’s probably not.

( bab00shka )
This is obvious satire or trolling/bait.

It's just a little too close to real TIM posting.

( SometimesJacka )
Well… it’s discord.

TIM’s discords can be some of the most unhinged, mask’s off moments.

It’s believable to me, because I’ve seen TIM’s like this. 🙃

( MonstrousRegiment )
Really, let's stick to critiquing believable stuff. This is too pat.

( SometimesJacka )
If we stuck to only critiquing the believable, we would have no posts.

But I think this post is believable to anyone who has ever spent time in discords with TIMs.

littleowl12 #transphobia ovarit.com

TIMs (and TIFs) shouldn't get so defensive about porn as an influencer. That would actually be good news

[...]

To anyone lurking here that gets touchy about the porn factor: if you were exposed to it as a child, I view that as sexual abuse of you, not by you. I hold you accountable for your adult wrong-doings, but not how you were taken advantage of when you were 12.

And while there are a bunch of things that contribute to this trans craze, I believe it would actually be a good thing if porn addiction really is the driving force. It means you are not genetically defective, you are not destined to be this way, and porn, like other addictive substances, can be avoided. We brought smoking rates of teens down significantly in the US. Protecting kids is totally doable.

Obviously, the motives are different between TIMs and TIFs. TIMs are pursuing their pornographic ideals. TIFs are usually trying to run away from them, though they too are enamored by other porny fantasies like Yaoi.

It's just not a coincidence that the more widespread porn became, the faster this social contagion spread. As porn producers compete for clicks, they have to get stranger, weirder, and more disgusting. It's just marketing and capitalism. They must stand out from the crowd if they want to be noticed. Once you realize that's the only reason why porn producers bother with this particular paraphilia, it loses its mystique.

Obviously porn is not the only factor. In highly homophobic societies, you will find more HSTS TIMs. These are just gay men in a very dark place. But HSTS TIMs usually go on a body-destroying quest to meet pornographic ideals of womanhood. They aren't interested in women outside stereotypes they think will charm men. Even if they do want to bake in a pretty half-apron, it's not about the physical reality of womanhood. It's about being a sexy stereotype men will like. So porn is definitely the how-to guide HSTS TIMs think they need. Combine that with the obligatory venture into prostitution and porn, you've got yet another man who is ruled by porn.

[...]

BondiBlue , OneOddBird & OneStarWolf #transphobia #moonbat ovarit.com

( BondiBlue )
Blue states becoming "sanctuaries" for genderwoo.

Connecticut has just announced it will be the first state to ignore court orders from red states prohibiting trans nonsense. Washington D.C. is reportedly soon to follow.

https://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillstatus/cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&which_year=2022&bill_num=5506

The upside is that they're also intending to be sanctuaries for abortion. But the downside is that they're lumping the two together as a broader "civil rights" battle. Even though the genderwoo cult are the ones erasing women's civil rights, and leaving us with no sanctuaries away from them.

This makes me angry, because the genderwoo cult now has a narrative framing of being on the Union side against slavery. It's just more forced teaming, now with trans bullsh!t effectively positioned as a "race." Just because I don't want anything to do with these militant colonizers doesn't make me a daughter of the Confederacy, FFS.

( OneOddBird )
A lot of this blue state trans thing refuge thing raises a lot of questions. Whenever a bill like the Texas one is passed, you see hordes of trans kids or their parents saying they are going to move out to a blue state. The thing is, blue states usually have higher costs of living. What person can actually afford to uproot their entire life, buy a home in a new place, pay for all the travel and expenses etc. it really shows that trans kids and trans healthcare in general is a problem of the bourgeoisie. What’s going to happen to that “trans kid” in Texas whose parents work as grocery store clerks? They can’t just uproot their lives and move. But oddly enough all the focus and sympathy is leveled at these upper class trans kids and their families who can afford to basically upgrade their quality of life

( OneStarWolf )
Lovely.

So Connecticut is also all about forcing women into prisons with men to inevitably be raped and become pregnant against their will. But at least they’ll allow the women abortions, eh! The idiots.

Gender ideology is a scourge on women and children, and it’s despicable how they now try to force ally it with abortion.

Women don’t want or need your gender cult bullshit as a condition for having autonomy over our bodies. Fuck off, Connecticut and all other TRAs and blue states trying this sleight of hand with our rights. We see you.

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: TiM objects to us being called TERFs as we're not feminists, then suggests using a misogynistic slur instead

( Medusa91 )
Can we please stop using the word transwomen?

It implies that these people are indeed women and they simply arnt. I prefer the actual more accurate term of “scrotum haver” since that’s more accurate but what are some “okay for society” alternatives?

( cousinanger )
Scrote?

( RawSienna )
I think the term sex offender is most accurate.

( hmimperialtortie )
I like “A man who demands we pretend he’s a woman” from this thread.

Or transvestites. Or AGPs (has the bonus of giving you the opportunity to explain just what that is.)

( bunyip )
Trans identified male is OK for society. Maybe throw a "biological" in there to soften it if you feel like being nice. If a TRA throws a tantrum, it doesn't matter.

If you think you're in a situation where you might have something to lose by offending TRAs, I do like the idea of playing along with their own rules. "Scrotum haver" is excellent. I think I prefer "penis haver" because it's more of a reminder of their maleness, their ability to commit rape or cause pregnancy.

I think TIMs would also find "penis haver" a little more uncomfortable as it reminds regular people that very few of these people actually get surgery to remove it, the penis is still here. Some people think Lia Thomas must be fully transitioned to have been allowed to compete, and "Penis-haver Lia Thomas" might enlighten a few people.

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

“Hate crimes reach record high as offences against transgender people double”. Fake news?

( Omina_Sentenziosa )
Hate crimes = misgendering online for these people.

So yeah, I can believe they doubled, because lots of people are just sick and tired of playing pretend and are calling a spade a spade way more than just 2/3 years ago.

( no- )
The article says 41% of the attacks are violent in nature. Who committed those attacks? Most likely men. Who is gonna get blamed? Feminists.

( LilianH )
I looked up the stats and don't see how they got 41% violent from those. The stats were,

36% Public order offenses

9% violent with injury

14% violent with no injury

33% Stalking and harassment

3% Criminal damage / Arson

5% Other

By my calculation that is 23% violent at best.

I should also note that only 3% of "hate crimes" against trans resulted in a charge or summons (compared to 8% for race, 9% for sexual orientation, 9% for religion, and 2% for disability) which speaks to their lack of severity.

( ProxyMusic )
But "violent" as the gender identity crowd define the term means anything that precious TIPs say makes them feel "invalidated," slightly uncomfortable and not centered.

( SecondSkin )
And violent to them means being told no.

Lesbians saying they don’t do dick= hate crime to trans people.

( DollarstoDonuts )
I mean what constitutes violence in this context. They're calling police on social media comments one would say that's a disproportionate response to something not even a crime, but they probably note the comment down as "violent".

( WatcherattheGates )
So not actual crimes, then, just feelings hurt. I just wish women's feelings counted for something.

( hmimperialtortie )
Being offended = offences to these fuckers.

( llkit )
They don't seem to analyse the offender statistics, good to finally see a breakdown. I see they're not using a breakdown for trans, just a broader breakdown.

I can an increase happening and not just online. I've seen a lot of trans out and about nowadays. The Tim's do stick out like a sore thumb. Also they do tend to look for offence so will find it. But yep I can see more stuff being said at them, by idiot blokes.

Pity we can't report such things a women. The whole thing is ridiculous that it excludes women. Not that I'm a fan of it all overall.

ProxyMusic #interphobia ovarit.com

RE: CAIS women

I have no problem considering persons with CAIS as though they were girls and women socially. Biologically, however, they are XY, SRY gene positive males with a DSD that occurs only in males. The sex development and health of females who have the same exact genetic mutations that cause CAIS in males are completely unaffected by those genetic anomalies. Because only male sex development is driven by and dependent on testosterone produced by the testes, and only males can have faulty male androgen receptors.

Also, socially doesn't mean medically. For the sake of people with CAIS's own health and wellbeing, it's crucial that their male sex, genetics and male-only DSD be acknowledged and kept front and center when it comes to matters like medical care, assessing their risks for developing certain diseases, anticipating how diseases will affect them, and treating the diseases and health conditions they develop. Their sex also needs to be taken into account when estimating their life spans for purposes of planning and budgeting for their old age and purchasing longterm care insurance.

their bodies are fully incapable of using testosterone from basically birth, meaning they have no functional male anatomy for basically their whole lives.

But persons with CAIS all develop and are born with testes that produce massive amounts of testosterone, usually in the high end of the normal male range, or exceeding the top end of the normal male range. At birth, CAIS testes also contain the gamete germ cells that in other males will later on develop into sperm. Some researchers today are predicting that with advances in assisted reproductive technologies, the time will come when persons with CAIS will be able to become biological parents.

How exactly do you figure that testes that pump out massive amounts of T and contain male gamete germ cells don't count as "functional male anatomy"?

[...]

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Spoiled TIM brat doesn’t think Reddit is protrans enough. It’s “terrifying”

( Committing_Tervery )

Thank you transphobes. I hate being trans so much because of you.

That’s a self-made problem. It’s easy to fix. Stop being trans.

( Carrots90 )
What happens when these people face real adversity?

Not the ‘failure to adequately grovel and simp’

( hmimperialtortie )
They never do.

( Carrots90 )
How about when he catches mom lovingly and transphobically gazing at his old baby pictures?

How she refused to aemd them to that service where baby/childhood pics can be ‘correctly gendered’. Ie history erased so your picture of you at Tball at 3 is defaced and turned into a ballet studio

( Genevieve )
Not pro-trans enough?? The western world has bent over backwards for them and their chosen identities, but the fact that they don't have complete subservience makes every single space they choose to intrude on not "pro-trans enough".

Pathetic narcissist. GOOD. I'm humored that you feel "terrified" over web pages in a browser that you can just easily click the x on so you can leave the "scary" situation. Goodness, they're babies, aren't they?

( suupersami )
Women are thrown rape and death threats when they say they don't want to have sex with males, or when they push back against abuse, or when they say they want female only spaces due to male violence, or just for merely existing... but oh no this poor man is reading stuff he doesn't like. OH THE HUMANITY.

( Itzpapalotl )
Maybe if you fetishistic Male perverts stop appropriating womanhood, people would like you more?

Wear what you like and do what you like to your body but STOP calling yourselves women, entering female only spaces, pretending you have anything to do with womanhood, demanding everyone cater to your delusions and fantasies. Stop policing language and beliefs of others... you are male, human males are called MEN. You are and will always be men. Leave us alone.

At this point “transphobia” is not validating every absurd claim they make. People are sick of “be kind” because it’s never good enough.

( Carrots90 )
Exactly. And their insistence on self ID has caused a lot of the hate.

Is it a ‘phobia’ if they are actually violent, unstable, predators? Or is it just healthy fear at this point?

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Our Sisters in Afghanistan

( AngelFoodCake )
If trans issues aren't just a first world problem, where are all the Afghan TIMs demanding that these rules must apply to them as well so that they can feel valid?

( Committing_Tervery )
Along a similar but different note, I never see TIMs complaining that seeing Muslim women oppressed gives them “dysphoria,” either. Weird how they want to experience abortions, stillbirths, and other solely female experiences, but never wearing a burka and needing to have a man escort them out in public.

( comradeconradical )
Sadly I have seen more than a few TIMs fetishize the idea of being forced to wear a hijab and forced to be a houseslave...

It can be part of their feminization/sissification/misogyny/humiliation kink, with the added bonus of racism.

Just when you think they couldn't possibly be more depraved, they go there.

( Committing_Tervery )
I’ve definitely seen a few fetishize it, but none of them say that seeing women in burkas etc gives them “dysphoria,” ya know?

Indeed racist/culturally insensitive.

I cannot get the burning image of one TIM out of my head who was wearing a full body covering (but not a face covering). He had the most ridiculous fake boobs (probably stuffed a pillow under there, that’s what it looked like).

Gah, I hate these creeps!!!

( radicalacceptance )
So confusing how this is happening when no one can define a woman? Has anyone tried just explaining to the Taliban that biological sex is actually a spectrum?????

( chocolatefondant21 )
Can Afghan women identify as men and be exempt from all these rules? Why not??

( IronicWolf )
Weird how unsophisticated people like the Taliban know who a woman is without either chromosome testing or genital inspection while PhDs in Queer Theory and ironic glasses struggle with the concept of sexual dimorphism in humans. Even cats, dogs, birds etc know how to recognise the male and female of their species but very educated middle class progressives can’t.

I await TW desperate to travel to Kabul to get the validation of being flogged for not wearing a burka while ‘being women’. They could organise ‘high adrenaline gender euphoria holiday packages’.

BlackCirce & hmimperialtortie #transphobia #pratt ovarit.com

RE: Why are they so manipulative?

( BlackCirce )
When are people going to wake up and realize this is a fetish that starts in adolescence for boys and they function as addictions? This isn’t a “mental health issue” or anything like being gay or lesbian, it’s not about “dysphoria.”

( hmimperialtortie )
This. I’m sick of the hand-wringing about their mental health. Any problems they have are self-inflicted.

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

r/honesttransgender discussion about "genital preferences" goes as expected

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( ladyagatha )
Literally every time “genital preferences” come up, it’s the same flow.

Genital preferences are valid!!! ➡️ Except you should really interrogate WHY you have them, did society TELL you to have genital preferences?? Maybe you should rethink that. ➡️ Genital preferences are transphobic.

( FemmeLesbian )
I fully believe that reason the conversation around rape culture suddenly stopped is because TIPs realized that them telling people "to examine their preferences" is, in fact, rape culture.

( ladyagatha )
Light bulb moment. Yikes. Makes sense. Just another MRA movement.

( crodish )
I don't even understand what kind of conversation these people are trying to have. They say it's fine to have "genital preferences" and in the same sentence claim it's transphobic. It's basically only okay for THEM to have, but not the people they want to date. Double standards at its finest

How the hell can you even have a conversation about this "respectfully"? The moment someone says they're not okay with one type, everyone of that type takes offense at it. They keep saying shit like "nothing wrong if you don't want to date transwomen, but it's transphobic if you don't want to date a transwoman because she has a dick" no my dude it's never been about the genitals. I don't care if "she" has gotten "her" dick inverted and it's the best vaginoplasty the butcher circle has seen. "She" is male, and that's why I'm not attracted, full stop.

Even for bisexuals, they aren't a dumping ground for rejected transgender people. Everyone has the right to be attracted to whomever they feel like and also reject them FOR ANY REASON. Relationships are not an obligation nor a contract.

( ProxyMusic )

I don't even understand what kind of conversation these people are trying to have.

Phew. I thought it was just me. I could not follow the line(s) of "reasoning" in that convo at all.

( hmimperialtortie )
That’s it. They can say no to anyone (as if they’re ever going to be in that position) but nobody is allowed to say no to them, for any reason.

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

TRA ("tell the rad fems") vs. Ally ("don't tell the rad fems")
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( [Deleted] )
Why are some GC people so adamant to have "pet transes" to show around like a circus pony? And of course AGP-in-chief here is not gonna say no to free attention, that's a AGPs bread and butter after all.

No other movement does that shit either. Pro gay people don't have a pet homophobe to prove they're not hateful against homophobes, the trans don't have pet GC people etc etc.

Why should we only be able to fight for our human rights by supporting a pet trans in womanface????

( crodish )
It's part of the process to peaking I think. I mean there really are some women who absolutely shut it down right away and that's admirable, but I always wanted to compromise and be nice and kind of be like, "see, I don't hate them! We agree! Why can't we all get along?" Female socialization and trying really hard not to be the bad guy, basically, and also not thinking deeply about it enough. Transwidows Voices really opened my eyes to realizing there is absolutely no middle ground and no compromise, not when there's unseen women getting hurt by these men all the time.

When these "allies" demand special exceptions for themselves because they said all the right things, they've effectively become hypocrites. I won't ally with hypocrites. Walk the talk.

( [Deleted] )
You're right female socialisation is one hell of a drug! I remember firmly thinking that calling them men is mean 🤡 however most GC is see pushing these pet transes are men...

( crodish )
Took me about 4 years to peak from "true trans" and preferred pronouns. Just keep shouting, I guess. I learnt from women constantly telling me how wrong I was lol

( butchplease )
And to think I once allied with and defended this pervert.

( Turtlefuzz )
I did also. I'm willing to give most people a chance to prove themselves, whether it's that they're a good person or bad. Once I saw what he said, in his own words, I was convinced he isn't any different than other AGPs; he's just better at deflection.

( butchplease )
Yes. I bet he gets off on being radfem women's token gendercock.

[Deleted] #transphobia #pratt ovarit.com

Evidence to provide TRAs when questioned
Hello, I was wondering: does anyone have more science/biology based evidence for why the trans theory is bogus? People ask me and then I get flustered because I don't save every bit of evidence I see and then it gets lost and I can't find it. Also it would be nice to have it for my own interest too.

The one who asks has power!

As others said, turn it around! There's so many holes in this cult so there's plenty of questions, especially if you can act like you don't really know much yet.

But why does a woman wanting to dress as a man make her non binary, i thought women can do anything and clothes have no sex?

How can you have the wrong sex brain? Are humans also born with wrong sex arms and spleens sometimes? What medical measurement do you do on a brain to see it's wrong sex?

Isn't it homophobic to tell gay teens they can be straight and to make them irreversibly infertile? Isnt that a gay genocide?

Why is there a trans remeberence day when trans identified males kill more than they are killed?

If a man who identified as trans in prison but goes back to being a man immediately after, was he really trans?

If men can become women, how come none of them ever was pregnant or birthed a child? Not all women can be pregnant but it's more than zero. There has never been a pregnant man so how did he change sex? In what way? Is looking like the other sex = "changing sex"? But then wouldn't very manish looking women be men?

If you only know a person's gender by asking them, how can people be attracted to someone they haven't talked to?

GraceHoward1729 & Champagne_Lasagne #transphobia ovarit.com

( GraceHoward1729 )
Misogynists are not welcome here.

💜🤍💚 Here are a couple of facts, as a friendly reminder:

Men who pretend to be women are men.

Women are female; men are male.

Lesbians are female homosexuals and exclusively own all sapphic spaces.

Calling men who pretend to be women "women" makes you a misogynist.

Lesbians are female homosexuals. Lesbians are not male heterosexuals. And no matter how much whining they do, misogynists can't change that fact.

This all doesn't need to be said, because reality exists independent of people's words. Reality doesn't require mass campaigns of psychological control with official contradictory slogans to be repeated ad nauseam; reality doesn't rely upon doublethink or propaganda-induced fear for compliance. I am not forgetting any facts, because reality is impossible to forget, not sorry.

( Champagne_Lasagne )
MEN are not welcome here.

💜 Here's a couple of facts, as a friendly reminder:

Transwomen are men.

All women have vaginas, all men have penises.

Enby lesbians are misogynist "not like other girls" women and are not welcome here and in all sapphic spaces.

Calling women "females" is degrading yet necessary, because some fuckwits refuse to acknowledge the meaning of "woman".

Lesbians are women who love women. Lesbians are only Cis women who love Cis women. And no matter how much whining they do, men and homophobes can't change that fact.

Evidently this all needs to be said all the time. Moids and handmaidens are always ignoring these types of facts however, fuck them.

littleowl12 & mrsmeyers #transphobia ovarit.com

( littleowl12 )
Girls are the bread and butter of gender clinics

I know gender clinics started their predatory crap with boys. But let's face it, there was never going to be that much growth, even with Jeanette Jennings parading poor Jazz around. Most parents would never allow their sons' genitals to be lopped off. Even for super dysfunctional homophobic families, it was just unthinkable. Even most adult TIMs don't bother with neo-vagina nonsense.

But look how much more "open-minded" parents are about mutilating their daughters' bodies. Early hysterectomies, breast amputation. Parents are so much more accommodating that now gender clinics focus on girls as their main prey. If a boy shows up, fine, but it's definitely about girls, now.

Does anyone have stats on the demand for neo-vaginas vs. phallo/metoidioplasty? I know the latter has far fewer surgeons and is much more expensive. But I'd love to know what percentage of TIFs at least attempt to get some sort of genital surgery.

It's just heart breaking how reckless parents are with their girls as opposed to their boys.

( mrsmeyers )
Making women and girls hate themselves is very economically viable. They are disposable, especially if they aren't "pretty."

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Twitter poll: Would you have sex with a trans person?

( femlez34 )
I love the response, "No, because they are misogynists". Kudos if that was one of you ladies. It's so true though, even if you could be attracted to them, their sexist views would kill the vibe. Not just with TIMs, I've met a couple non-medical NB women that I've been attracted to, but I couldn't stand the idea of dating someone who thinks they're special and unique and as a "cis woman" I must love all the abuse and discrimination. Even though my wife and I are nearly on opposite ends of the lesbian presentation spectrum, we're still united as women.

( RusticTroglodyte )
Ugh it kills me to see tifs being misogynists, I'm like what the fuck is wrong with you, girl. You can't self ID your way out of being a woman.

You can see it right out in the open - the trans activists basically only ever talk about tims. Tims are the loud ones, they get all the attention.

I don't understand how Tifs and NBs don't see the blatant misogyny

( femlez34 )
Omg, the sexism within the trans community is staggering. TIMs accuse the TIFs of having "male privilege" and just steamroll them. You see this on the trans reddit subs all the time, a TIF will politely bring up that TIFs still have the problems with reproductive issues, or being socialized as girls, and the TIMs explode.

( mathlover )
Never. I'm lesbian so would never have sex with a man. All transwomen are men so there is absolutely no way, ever, that I would have sex with one. No lesbian would - a lesbian having sex with a man is always rape. Wouldn't matter what they looked like or if they have had their junk made into a front hole.

And I wouldn't date any of the deluded women trying to escape mysogyny by pretending they are men. They are not capable of mentally healthy relationships and need to devote any emotional energy to all the psychological healing they will need when the delusion eventually betrays them.

( Turtlefuzz )
I'm bi and I would not want to be bumpin' uglies with a TIM or a TIF. Super bi, super fly 😎

( Tiramisuomi )
AGPs came at me likes flies when I was online dating because I listed myself as bi. "You'll have the best of both worlds uwu"

🤮You mean the worst of both worlds. Worst.

( friedparata )
the worst of male.

real_feminist & madderthanhell #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Remind the Dems that they can't weaponize Roe to get our votes until they have their own anti-woman platform

( real_feminist )
I said this (i forgot to mention pro-surrogacy, whoops):

"The Democratic Party has spent the last several years dehumanizing women and pushing a misogynistic platform. You are now pro-sex work, pro-porn, and pro-gender identity. All issues that strip women of our humanity just as much as the attacks from the Republicans. Democrats have argued for our bodies to be bought, sold, rented, and mocked. You have fought for protect the men who rape sex workers and the men who wear womenface from accountability. Biden has also abused his power to strip us of our legal sex-based rights.

I say 'you' and not 'we' because, although I have been a lifelong Democrat, I no longer consider myself a part of your party since you no longer see me a human being.

The last two days have been awful. Our abortion rights have become time-limited. Yet, Democrats still refuse to acknowledge sex-based oppression or your role in the War on Women. Say it -- "WOMEN". Adult human females. Sex-based oppression.

You have exploited this opportunity to coerce us into voting for you. Why on earth do you think that we'll vote for a party that is controlled by MALE SUPREMACISTS and portrays feminists as the root of all evil?!

RESPECT MY SEX IF YOU WANT MY X!"

( madderthanhell )
Warning that they'll ignore the issues you raise and use your email to build their fundraising list.

I submitted a comment to them last week complaining about their party's promotion of regressive, sexist, gender identity ideology. Got an automated reply promising response in a day or two. Then...nothing. No response. Until today when for the first time ever I got a request for a monetary donation, focusing on the Roe issue, and signed Kamala Harris... F*ckers. Fastest ever hit on an "unsubscribe" button.

( real_feminist )
Ugh. I hope they get slaughtered in the voting booth. We're completely fucked either way.

mathlover & WholeGrain #transphobia ovarit.com

Lesbian visibility week event ..with a TiM

( mathlover )
"L With the T" as the title of the event is horrific. It is basically saying that prey (lesbians) should have no way to avoid their predators (rapey male "trans").

( WholeGrain )
All these TiMs with their "LwiththeT" hashtags and the like, meanwhile I see actual lesbians use "LetTheLOut" the most. Tells you all you need to know.

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Responding to the "How do we know what sex people are without checking their genitals?" crowd

( TheLastUBender )
I really love how women grimly and quietly squirrel away information, helpful articles, studies, incriminating screenshots and explanatory memes to combat the collective gaslighting.

It is like being part of a resistance movement. But I thought it would be about something less heinously absurd. Can't they axe this nonsense so we can focus on social policies and climate change? Ugh.

( Riothamus )

Can't they axe this nonsense so we can focus on social policies and climate change?

The entrenched interests started pushing this TRA nonsense after Occupy Wall Street brought mainstream attention to class issues. Gender Ideology exists purely to divide the working classes over the critical issue of how many angels can dance on the head of a pin.

( NotCis )
Yeah, I hate doing that. I don't want to participate in this charade that if we just present the right evidence in the right format, they'll listen to us. I prefer to respond with something like "Somehow modern man figured out which sex to rape and oppress for thousands of years before anyone knew what chromosomes were. Any theories as to how men managed that?" Put the onus back on them.

( TheLastUBender )
I can't say that I'm not part of the squirreling, but I LOVE your take. You're right, their claims are patently, obviously absurd, and presenting evidence won't work even as well as your reply.

( Tortoisemouse )
I have found presenting evidence does work.... not to change their minds (although you never know) but to make them concede defeat which is basically what happens when they have a big screaming fit, shout names at you and then block you. To me that's a win. And there are others watching. Even if the others watching are people who already agree with you, we give each other strength by speaking out publicly.

Also I have had some amazing experiences on Twitter of being attacked by a TRA, getting into a "debate" in which they get nasty, and then suddenly I am being backed up by two, three, four other women, all completely calm and reasonable and firm of resolve. It's like, we've got each other's backs.

But yeah. I wish we were fighting something that wasn't just a fabricated invented vanity project. That's partly why it's so exhausting.

furyosa , BlueToyotaTacoma & Vasilisa #transphobia ovarit.com

(furyosa)
To the handmaidens of the 'Be Kind' brigade
She said 'Be kind' to the children protesting displays of their male teacher's fetish

She said 'Be kind' to the female athlete protesting the male athelete winning her race

She said 'Be kind' to the woman protesting a man's presence in her communal showers

She said 'Be kind' to the hospitalized woman protesting a man's presence in her ward

She said 'Be kind' to the raped woman protesting a man's presence in her shelter

She said 'Be kind' to the imprisoned woman protesting a male rapist sharing her cell

She said 'Be kind' but the kindness she's demanding only goes one way

She said 'Be kind' as she lay prostrate before her male masters

We said 'No' as we will not join you in your prostration

We said 'No' as we stand for women's sex based rights

( BlueToyotaTacoma )
It's why I have decided to stop feeling guilty all the time. My dad tried to make me feel like shit because he has a way of making his victims feel like they're the perpetrators. He is a narcissist and these men are the same. I don't owe anything to narcissistic men and neither do any of you. I don't care if he calls me a "little shit," a "manipulator," or anything else. Similarly, I don't care if they call me a "transphobe" or "bigot" or whatever. These men are just as bad as my dad. They are exactly the same kind of toxic person.

I'm sick of being made to feel small by men. When it comes to narcissists I'd rather be an "asshole" than a handmaiden.

(Vasilisa )
I felt so moved reading this. I think it encapsulates, in a very concise form, what it means to be a woman. I’m thinking here of the fact that I too was in the “be kind” brigade. We are conditioned to be so and much as I regret this, it was hard to unlearn - if it’s even possible to unlearn completely.

I see the “we” in the last verses as being a union of the “she”’s in the first verses. It’s finding a collective that gives strength, conviction and “class consciousness” to (some) women (like me. Others may not need it, and brava to them!).

I will save it to reread, (yes) thank you, furyosa.

Researcher1536 , crodish & emissch #transphobia ovarit.com

( Researcher1536 )
Long post coming in--

I opened up to a friend this week. She said she has a hard time treating TIMs as women when she comes face to face with them. We had a TIM cashier in a cheap AF wig and a TIM server at a restaurant. I said, you don't have to treat them as women, because they're not. Biological sex cannot be changed. Wear a dress, who cares. But you can't change your sex. I explained as much as I could in a crowded space with families around-- sports, bathrooms, children (briefly), women's support groups being invaded, why language matters. I told her there were dozens of other topics and I could talk for hours. At the end of it, she goes, "and you're entitled to your opinion." I replied, biological sex is NOT an opinion; it's fact. People KNOW this shit is ridiculous. She admitted she can't process it when she comes face to face with TIMs. Even the brains of TRA-lites override their feelings in that split second. This same friend said a year ago she thought her 6 year old son, who is on the spectrum, was trans because he liked to wear dresses of his older sister. Fast forward to today, the boy hasn't worn a dress in months. This insidious cult is harming so many kids who want to be kids and play with clothes and have fun with different roles. If my friend had medicalized the boy, he'd be another Jazz right now.

( crodish )

At the end of it, she goes, "and you're entitled to your opinion." I replied, biological sex is NOT an opinion; it's fact.

throws table She JUST told you how she couldn't see TIMs as women and you were telling her she doesn't have to! Why is she so desperate to brainwash herself?? So glad she didn't trans her son urgh

( emissch )
I really do feel like TRAs who get semi-peaked thoughts as they get close to the edge are in a really fragile mental state in that moment. So I think if you start dishing out hard truths it can be too much for them so they start to step back off the ledge and go to their safe place. I was never a TRA so haven't experienced personally, but based on prior accounts I've read on here and elsewhere it just seems like there is an intense emotional cycle going on.

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

TIMs are "willful women"
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( BlackCirce )
Wrong. A “willful woman” is a woman, an adult human female, who demands to be treated as all three, to be recognized as an adult and a human while female, who demands to be recognized as a full political subject, a full citizen who inherits the privileges and duties of a citizen, the possessor and creator of her works in art and science and philosophy whatever their intent or quality, a full authority over her children and household. That is what a willful woman is. A man who ejaculates wildly at the touch of silken drawers is simply a pervert.

( no- )
I googled Sara Ahmed fully expecting her to be a TIM because wtf, but no, this is a handmaiden 🤦‍♀️

( GraceHoward1729 )

A man who ejaculates wildly at the touch of silken drawers is simply a pervert.

lmfao. reminded me of this: “The first time I put on the black silk panties I got a hardon right away.” - Julian Beck

"Transvestism is costuming which violates gender imperatives. Transvestism is generally a sexually charged act: the visible, public violation of sex role is erotic, exciting, dangerous. It is a kind of erotic civil disobedience, and that is precisely its value. Costuming is part of the strategy and process of role destruction. We see, for instance, that as women reject the female role, they adopt “male” clothing. As sex roles dissolve, the particular erotic content of transvestism dissolves." - Dworkin

Reason number #789270842 these full-time fetishistic parodies have a vested interest maintaining women's oppression and subjugation, in upholding patriarchy and sex roles and hindering women's liberation. The eroticism goes away if our inferiority established by the oppressive 'gender' hierarchy is abolished. And ofc what's important is not women's liberation but ensuring paraphilic men have permanent hard ons. christ

( Seven )
Ugh, these fetishistic caricatures are so demanding of something i wished SO HARD i never were..

( mathlover )
That describes men. Men who play make-believe "women".

Various commenters #sexist ovarit.com

"If men without gender identities vanished from society, patriarchy would continue to be upheld by women"
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( visits_radio )
"Cis" men didn't disappear from that book; they became rape-obessed monsters.

( Committing_Tervery )

Men

rape-obsessed monsters

Meme from The Office: “They’re the same picture.”

( rowlings_army )
And they're not already?

( BlackCirce )
This is a fantasy men have had and described multiple times but it’s inconsistent with historical men’s evaluation of women. Men constantly assert that women are mentally weak, nonviolent, risk averse, not aggressive, not sexually motivated etc. Without those traits it’s difficult to see how in the absence of men, women would continue men’s organization of society dependent on those traits. Stories like YTLM and Manhunt when women suddenly become “exactly like men” in the absence of men are just cope. If most males died off, women would continue being mainly communitarian, risk averse, less aggressive etc and life would be better for everyone. Men cannot cope with the fact that their existence is why life sucks so much both for themselves and for women 💁🏾‍♀️

Also the idea that if women had power we would treat men the way they treat us acts to sanitize their brutality as self defense. “If we don’t keep them broken as slaves, they will grow strong and enslave us.”

( butchplease )
Naomi Alderman's "The Power" springs to mind.

( BlackCirce )
People act like women don’t have access to deadly weapons. We do and we do use them against men, children and other women. Just far far less than men do. Like most mammals female humans are most dangerous when our offspring are threatened. If women wanted more men dead we absolutely could accomplish that without any supernatural interventions. People need to accept that, among the many many wonderful things about women, we are also more peaceful. Its a fact 🤷🏾‍♀️

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Have I already lost her? Is it already too late?

( GA626 )
As a mother myself with a 5 month old, I very much dread her future and the thought of this happening.

You cannot restrict her access to the internet, but what I would do in this situation is explain to her the dangers of strangers on the internet, explain what the term 'grooming' means, and also explain to her what puberty blockers are used for and the permanent damages they cause to the body.

Show her pictures of TIF's, after 'gender affirming surgery', even if you consider them extremely graphic. Show her the damage this ideology causes. People like Chloe Cole and other detransitioners are people she should look up and read about. Libsoftiktok, Kellie Jay Keen etc.

I don't know how old she is, but children are immature and won't hit full maturity until 25. She cannot possibly know anything about her future, other than the ideas put into her head now by the trans cult and she needs to be protected from those ideas. She needs to understand exactly what happens when you are sterile.

If you want to find your daughter again, this is what needs to be done in order to make her understand the reality behind the ideology. It's designed to tear children away from parents and destroy relationships. You could also explain to her what a cult is.

I'm sorry you're dealing with this. It sounds like a nightmare.

( LunarMoose )
Home school her (can you?) Turn OFF the internet. I would absolutely do this (I did turn off the internet for my home at one point, not because of trans issues - daughter's behavior was really tough for a few months. This sucked for me, too (I like the internet) and daughter said I'd never survive. I sure did! And those issues disappeared :) Move. Do you have relatives you can stay with (in a conservative part of the country?) Then send her to a private school. Or home school.

If this were my daughter, I'd make every drastic step I could to interrupt this. As others have asked - how old is she?

( FlorenceBlue )
Take away any device she has that connects to the internet.

( WatcherattheGates )
I don't know how old she is, but if she is younger than 17, take a hammer and smash her phone and computer. I mean it. That is the only way. If you can, also take her on a gap year to Europe or somewhere else, immediately. I promise you that if you sever it all, you will see her come back, bit by bit.

hmimperialtortie , sojourner_truth_ & momofreyrella #transphobia ovarit.com

Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream says "words have meaning, TRAHR"
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( hmimperialtortie )
No, they’re not. Nobody is trans, there’s no such thing. These “rights” are rapists’ privileges.

Also make up your alleged minds, do words have meanings or not?

( sojourner_truth_ )
So many people will have to walk these bad takes back when sanity prevails. It's crazy how many people who are dead wrong on literally every other issue (like Tucker Carlson) will be dead on the money here, and people who have a stellar track record are pushing pedophilia and the destruction of women's rights.

( momofreyrella )
Its so weird agreeing with Tucker Carlon of all people!!

( sojourner_truth_ )
I know, right! I actually watched him on youtube talking about the Libs of TikTok doxxing and half of my brain was melting, just in shock that I was watching him. What has the world come to?

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Opinion: I'm a transgender player in a women's hockey league. That's exactly where I belong - CNN

( ProxyMusic )

Throughout my transition, I remained active in my sport. I tried playing adult men's "beer league" hockey at first, but I didn't feel safe physically, since I was playing against large bodies as my own body was rapidly changing and losing muscle mass.

And playing in that league only added to my anxiety, since I didn't feel comfortable expressing my true identity in front of my [male] teammates. I was certain that my male teammates wouldn't accept my transition.

So he didn't even give the other blokes a chance to demonstrate their fealty to "diversity and inclusion" by allowing them to know and accept him. He sold them short from the get-go by deciding in his own head right off the bat that they'd never accept him, thus he never bothered being honest and open with them. In one act of mental gymnastics, he pre-judged them to be intolerant arseholes and conveniently let himself off the hook. So much for "authenticity" and "living your truth."

I felt like a complete outsider, as if I had something to hide every time I stepped in the locker room -- whether I was covering up the physical changes I was experiencing because of transitioning, or lying about my life off the ice.

News flash: hiding who you are and lying about yourself leads to social awkwardness and unease. It's impossible to feel at home with others when you are not at home with yourself.

( RisingUp )

I felt like a complete outsider, as if I had something to hide every time I stepped in the locker room -- whether I was covering up the physical changes I was experiencing because of transitioning, or lying about my life off the ice.

But in the ladies locker room he’s totally happy letting it all swing free! How charming.

( hmimperialtortie )
You belong in a locked ward, male.

( mittimithai )
This has to be the best line.

"The first couple of years during my transition were tough: During one particularly rough three-month period, I posed as a man at work while living my true identity outside it."

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: TRA = MRA

( PointySpoon )
Just a thought for the day, I’m gonna call MRAs re-skinned TRAs now. Since we always call TRAs re-skinned MRAs hahaha

( vvvqvvv )
I genuinely do not understand the cognitive dissonance TRAs have. They think they are being “progressive” by using sexist stereotypes to discern gender?

What is progressive about pushing a young girl with “stereotypically masculine interests” into surgery and hormones? They are SO close to getting it right but also somehow miss it by miles. Why can’t “masculine” girls simply just be masculine girls? Why MUST they become boys?

Gender ideology is riddled with such overt hypocrisy that I can’t help but assume TRAs are lacking serious cognitive abilities. How are they so blind?

( queen_beastmode )
Oh yea, TRA's and MRA's are definitely part of the same internet mano-sphere culture. If you put a TRA and an MRA together they might disagree on certain identity issues and key talking points, one might be more likely to vote republican and the other democrat, but if you dig deeper they share very similar core values and a semi-fascist rhetorical style that is hard to miss.

( yikesforever )
I don't think men want women to cut off their boobs though, that part doesn't match a world that men would want.

But otherwise the outcome of their actions certainly is a place where men have easier access to assault women and girls and take things that belong to women. Though I don't think it's intentional for a lot of them. The ones who have been swayed by emotion seem to really believe "trans" people are a set of people that are more marginalized and in pain than any other set of people.

( Peppermint )
I think the men who want women and girls to cut off the boobs are the men who are jealous of women and girls. Everyone should be horrified that non-trans people are being given drugs and surgeries even TIMs but we don't hear a thing.

( Evee_Era )
This is a good pt too. A lot of envious transwomen really hate us.

( Evee_Era )
Good point. FtM adds another stepping stone in their destruction of woman so they can redefine and include themselves. The goal is to confuse kids so they can inject their TRA beliefs enough for transwomen to slip in and gain access.

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

Woman gets called a transphobe for not wanting to share a bed with a TIM

(mathlover )
Why is this surprising? It was an opportunity for a "trans" man to coercively rape a woman. Or at least get off sexually. Is there any doubt that he would have been masturbating next to her in bed if she was able to rebuff outright rape? Or that he probably did masturbate, while sniffing the sheets, after she left the bed.

Everything these men do is easily interpreted and understood once you realize that everything they do is motivated by getting off and violating women to do so.

( Bolero )

The last, transmisogyny, is a combination of sexism and transphobia applied to trans women. Generally it involves seeing us as more dangerous than other women

Reality is a TERF, yet again

( no- )
Right? Why would they be more safe than other men? They're the same picture. And they know men are more dangerous than women because that's the excuse they use to demand access to female spaces.

( hmimperialtortie )
Imo they are more dangerous than other men.

( ErikaMart )
I'd share a bed with a normal strange man before a TIM I'm not joking

( butchplease )
If I have to choose between the man who's pushing himself into my spaces and the man who isn't, guess which one I'm taking.

( no- )
That's the thing about TIMs, they have a way of making other men look decent in comparison.

( XX_Power )
Statistically they're even more dangerous than other men! The crossdressers especially love rape and pedophilia if we go by incarceration data.

Sprig_of_mint , shewolfoffrance & Bolero #transphobia ovarit.com

(Sprig_of_mint)
Genderwoo = the Satanic Panic?

One of my deepest areas of fascination is the 1980s Satanic Panic, which began by parents becoming convinced that their children's daycare was being secretly run by a cabal of Satanic pedophiles. This belief catapulted itself into mainstream American thought. Doctors, law enforcement, social workers, psychologists, and other authorities believed the lies that America was full of Satanic ritual abuse underground societies. They used slogans like "Believe the children" and "children don't lie" while using junk science and manipulative interviewing techniques to convince children and parents of Satanic abuse that literally never happened. There's a lot more to it, and I recommend those unfamiliar take a look. The general attitude from those my age who were only young children when this was going on is "what was everyone thinking? How could they have been so deluded?" Do you all think in a few decades everyone will the same way about transing kids? Here's what really gets me--for different reasons, but both the Satanic-panic-influenced Bible belters of my childhood and TRAs of today hate JK Rowling!

( shewolfoffrance )
One contrast I find interesting is that right now, it's the people who are raising the alarm about abuse who are accused of stoking a moral panic. I'm fairly sure that within 10-15 years massive lawsuits, journalistic exposés, and personal memoirs about detransition will force the issue into the sunlight.

And while the accusations of Satanic ritual abuse in the 80s were never substantiated, and never even plausible in the first place; the evidence of medical, sexual, and emotional abuse in gender activism is all right there. Many TRAs will even brag about it publicly. Off the top of my head I can think of Dr. Yeet the Teats, rapist Eli Erlick, and the promotion of suicide-baiting as a tactic to force family members to support transition.

( Bolero )
My favorite thing about the current era is that Michael "Jesse Singal is literally murdering trans people" Hobbes did a whole thing about Satanic Panic on his You're Wrong About podcast. I think it's actually where I first learned about Satanic Panic (before I listened to a couple of episodes where I'd had prior knowledge about the subject, and started mistrusting his reporting).

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femlez34 #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Watching trans murder rates inflate in real time

I've never met a TIM who passed, I can't imagine a situation where a man would be dating a TIM for a while and then suddenly learn they've been seeing a male. It would be possible to catfish someone online I guess.

They want it to be a hate crime so badly because otherwise there's no justification for their agenda. It's always "Sorry, it isn't fair for someone who went through male puberty to compete against women" -> "If you don't let me cheat in sports, some unrelated man out there is going to murder a TIP!", "Women aren't comfortable sharing a bathroom with males" -> "If you make us go in the men's room, we'll get hate crimed!", "Let's have children wait to medically transition until they've reached adulthood so that they're able to consent" -> "Preventing this child from being sterilized at age 12 will cause a different TIP somewhere else in the country to be murdered!"

It's their answer to everything because they aren't able to rationally justify any of their goals. If there are no hate crimes, then they really have nothing. Most of the people running the trans movement are middle aged white straight men who transitioned well into their adult careers and were never gender non-conforming as children. They tend to be high earning in fields like tech. They are essentially one of the most privileged groups in the country. They're desperate to bill themselves as the most oppressed in order to gain "allies" to push their agenda of giving male fetishists access to their non-consenting targets.

Various commenters #transphobia #conspiracy ovarit.com

(JKRismyhero)
Passing
I saw this on twitter a comment about using puberty blockers so that it is easier for their child to "pass". This concept of passing is so upsetting. Basically parents are condoning that their child will have to live a lie for the rest of their lives.

What a terrible way to live.

( Beru )
I honestly think that many of these parents are terrified at the prospect of having a visibly gender-nonconforming child. That's why they push for 'passing' at all costs.

( sojourner_truth_ )
Even if they pass, so what? They'll be sterile, mentally ill, and still their birth sex. So who cares if they can fool more people than a person who transed themselves later in life?

( princess_toots )
And "passing" requires keeping everyone at a distance. You can't let anyone close enough to you to realize the truth. What a sad way to live your life... close relationships make life meaningful.

( Stealthygal )
This bothers me too. Why not push for greater acceptance of a wider kind of presentation instead of medicalizing it? (Oh wait it's capitalism.)

( Every-Man-His-Own-Football )
Fetishistic transvestites' main regret is not transitioning sooner. For them passing is an erotic obsession, which they project onto "trans kids". In addition, TIMs tend to have a "sissification" fetish (forced feminization of boys), and some are simply pedophiles. But victims of childhood (prepubescent) transition will typically not develop sexual attraction at all; never mind a paraphilia.

I also think this is a trial run for transhumanist elites to biologically engineer their children.

( OwnLyingEyes )
Ugh, your comment just made me realize that piece about how some of this might be adult TIMs living out their forced-fem fetishes on children; I hadn't connected those dots, but it fits. One of the cockiest 'egg-crackers' I'm aware of is also saturated in all of that shit and won't stop hornyposting on Twitter about it.

no- #transphobia ovarit.com

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Trans rights wants:

* External validation at all costs.
* The institutional and systemic erasure of the bodily reality of women and girls.
* No freedom of assembly for women.
* No safe intimate spaces for women.
* Free cosmetic surgery.
* Priest class status. No accountability for their sexual crimes and access to vulnerable victims.
* To freely practice exhibitionism and voyeurism.
* Indoctrinating children.
* Sterilizing children, LGB youth, and neurodivergent people.
* No free speech, especially for women.
* Suppressing female class consciousness.
* Deplatforming and harassing feminists.
* Replacing feminism with rape culture and postmodern identity politics.
* Inhumane medical experimentation (uterus transplants on men).
* Letting men with breastfeeding fetishes feed their questionable nipple discharge to infants.
* To force society at large to participate in men’s cross dressing and feminization fetishes.
* To allow women to be raped and impregnated by male inmates in prison.

mathlover #transphobia ovarit.com

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Addicts "feel" better temporarily when given their drug of choice. But all you have done is made the addiction worse. The only effective treatment is to help the addict through the difficult period of learning to live life without the drug.

Temporarily giving puberty blockers only fuels a child's false hope that they could ever change sex. It makes the child's psychological issues worse. The only effective treatment is to help the child through the difficult period of learning to accept, and live life, as the sex they are.

Every-Man-His-Own-Football #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Video game fans peaked by TRAs messing with their favourite video game

When TIMs complain about transphobia, in the vast majority of cases, it is narc rage caused by an interference with their erotic obsession. That's also why they are so excessively focused on "TERFs" (and so ready to use threats of rape) rather than on the men who are actually violent towards TIMs. When Serano invented "transmisogyny" the first example he gave was jokes about men in dresses. What made the transvestites in GTA 5 so much more offensive to TIMs than misogyny is that they are clearly portrayed as male. Supposedly in trans logic any of the female characters in the game could be trans.

OwnLyingEyes & KissMyOvaries #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: How calling a vagina a front hole DOES affect me

( OwnLyingEyes )
It's harmful to all women because it's taking away clear words that are necessary for understanding how our bodies function and replacing them with newspeak words that were created for the sole purpose of allowing some delusional women to sink deeper into those delusions. And FFS, doctor's visits take time out of my day and I pay a premium for accessing a small amount of their time; can we please not waste it playing inconsistent pronoun-and-gibberish games (especially when said delusional women you're sacrificing and expecting me to sacrifice so much to appease aren't even in the room)?

And it costs confidence in them as professionals, people I'm supposed to trust with my health, with my life, who can't or won't even speak clearly about what's happening to me because they're too afraid of offending insane people by acknowledging reality.

( KissMyOvaries )
This is why I don’t give a flying fck if TIFs end up with long term body damage. If you’re so stupid as to believe that you can become a man, then maybe you deserve what comes to you. Almost immediately after peaking I could see just how much damage TIFs do to other women. I’m not going to waste any energy on caring about them, because they ACTIVELY try to destroy other women.

I do want to say that I have ZERO problems with detrans women who have also dropped their narcissistic bullshit. There are a few prominent detrans women who are still all stuck up on themselves and no, I don’t support them as I don’t support narcissistic people.

VestalVirgin #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Parent asks TIP for help as TIM child on blockers can’t have penile inversion (2017)

Yeah, women have nothing to gain from puberty blockers - as far as medical problems go, those you get from mastectomies are very probably much less severe than those you get from puberty blockers. (Not counting the risk of surgery, but it is pretty safe nowadays, and brittle bones are likely to necessitate surgery, so ...)

But. I don't think it is stupid that TRAs want to die on the puberty blocker hill.

Not if you assume that their end goal, their real goal, is to ensure male access to ALL female spaces, and that they don't care shit about how many children they harm in the process.

The adult male AGPs who never intend to ever part with their penis profit from sickly small boys who actually look like girls thanks to puberty blockers being the public face of transness.

And I think that's the plan. Those children are used for publicity, so that adult male rapists, with penis and all, can get into womens' spaces and the general public thinking of them as frail, sickly boys with feminine faces.

Various commenters #kinkshaming ovarit.com

"Play"

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( miss_frankie )
“We’re into breath play”. Nope your boyfriend just gets a boner from choking you.

( demonista )
From strangling her/you. Even choking is a euphemism.

( Committing_Tervery )
The word “play” makes it sound so innocent, and instantly evokes images of children, so ew @ that word being constantly used too. Pedophiles...

( pennygadget )
Agreed. Its pedo language designed to appeal to young people (and desensitize young girls)

( notafeminist )
All the while beating drums about how they are "safe, sane and consensual." No sane person gets off to labeling gruesome acts in such a childlike way.

RawSienna , notsofreshfeeling & drdeeisback #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: What does it mean to be ‘treated as' a woman?

( RawSienna )
What TIMs mean when they say this is “you better pretend I’m a woman when it suits me, so I can go slumming in misogyny when I feel like it because it gives me hate-boners”.

For women, it means being mistreated to varying degrees in culturally-specific ways depending geographic location.

( notsofreshfeeling )
TiMs never experience misogyny; they can't go slumming in it. It takes about 10 seconds max to clock the most passable TiM on earth.

( RawSienna )
I phrased it badly. No, of course they dont experience misogyny…they’re misogynists. What I was trying to say is that misogyny excites them sexually.

( drdeeisback )
Excellent. And yeah, 'treated like a woman' makes zero sense--it seems, when asked, the only nonsexual and nonsexist answers are 'people saying she about me and being able to use spaces for women'. Aside from the fact that this is, in fact, a sexual answer, it's not as if men don't have the word 'he' and spaces for men.

GraceHoward1729 #transphobia ovarit.com

What does it mean to be ‘treated as' a woman?

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Men: oh btw for some of us it's not enough to jack off to your pain, we actually want to be treated like you!! like women just like you hahah! and we'll pretend to be you, and you have to pretend too!! haha oh even though we have male bodies so we're not actually oppressed lol we just want to be treated less than and we want to perform 'femininity' like you're forced to and we want to be treated like the subordinate sex class and thus redefine you in law and society as actually being the subordinate 'gender' created by patriarchy! we have pink gender souls and so do you haha and female brains lol we'll call the porn 'sissification' and our existences 'feminisation'.

yeah yeah we know cross-dressing is the most common paraphilia of convicted sex offenders but shhhh shhhh let us in the spaces you fought hard for girlies we'll wear your oppression like a costume and get breast implants and jack off to you being degraded lol it's ‘gender affirming’ it’s our right!!! this is the men's sexual rights movem- oop i mean "trans rights movement" hahahah oh btw call us women, because we are women, 'women' is just a male fetish now. lol all that shit how we treat you cos you have a female body, all that shit you’ve been fighting against for centuries, we want that enshrined in law that you have to be treated that way, we’ll erase centuries of feminism just because we sickos want that misogynistic treatment lol. ha and if you object you’re ‘transmisogynists’. oh btw there's no such thing as female. so we’ll erase you too. and btw what kind of hormones does your ‘female’ body naturally produce? we're going to start injecting that. fuck yeah. omg is that 'milk' coming out of my moobs? let me force-feed this disgusting synthetic shit to a child. im a mother! but there’s no such thing as mother. ha this isn’t child abuse!! oh women btw while we redefine you in law and society to mean that you are how misogynists treat you, you’re going to have to call us ‘she’ and shut the fuck up about it. lol

2nd wave feminists: NO-

men: fuck you stfu cissexist transphobic terf swerf disgusting transmisogynist cissies stop oppressing me I will rape you with my girldick

2nd wave feminists:

2nd wave feminists: general public, are you hearing this? hello?!

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LavenderLane #transphobia ovarit.com

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spoilerOne day most of the women who are TERFs now will
claim they never were, because it will be so
embarrassing. Like all the people who don't admit they
voted for Thatcher

More likely: most parents who transed their kid and then watch them suffer/die young will cry that they were manipulated by our media and the medical industry. It’s going to take probably another 5-15 years but there’s going to be a wave of these doctors getting their asses handed to them in lawsuits.

17throwaways17 , La_Terfa & Mandy #transphobia ovarit.com

(17throwaways17)
The way gender non conforming women are being treated is pushing them
The way GNC women are treated is making more and more think they are "nonbinary" or shouldn't be women because theyre not feminine

It's making me so angry

Theres is tiktok by this GNC woman and now her experience is making her "dysphoric" like fuck that.

tiktok.com/ZTdCyNonW

( La_Terfa )
One of the biggest evils of transgenderism is telling women that, if they're not completely flawlessly feminine (in a caricature-like way), or don't like being sexualized and abused by men, they're not really women.

( Mandy )
All the women who don't like it can exclude themselves from the category of women; the women who remain will aspire to perform as sex objects for men as the ultimate validation of their identity. They will compete among themselves to be the most objectified. They will objectify themselves to gain male approval.

KissMyOvaries , XX_Power, jessebelleinhell & Caerulea #homophobia ovarit.com

( KissMyOvaries )
I disagree that it’s the government’s failure to act that put them in the crosshairs of a new disease.

Gay men’s inability to stop randomly fucking each other has put them in the crosshairs of a new disease. They did this to themselves. They are not “innocent victims”. They don’t care about getting monkey pox because the pull of having random sex is too great to overcome. The realities of men having sex needs to be exposed for what it is. I’m sick of women being branded as sluts when gay men have faaaaar more indiscriminate sex.

( XX_Power )
Exactly! If this was a female disease somehow wed hear 247 how disgusting and inferior us filthy sl#tty women are.

But because it's men it's like, you can't expect gay men to stop having anonymous orgies for even just one fucking month, noooo, wet penises are more important than the health of the whole fucking population.

( Caerulea )
I agree, they are not innocent victims. The promiscuous ones are right now in the active process of creating a brand new STD, while full well knowing about it. And they are not stopping.

For context, I am in Europe, and the information here is very clear. The target demographic know who they are, and they have been directly advised to avoid having sex outside a monogamous partnership, just for a little while until this blows over. They did not change their behaviour at all.

( jessebelleinhell )
That's what I was just thinking. Men call women sluts and whores, say that WE are dirty and feminism is a disease, yet..look at them. Just more projection on their part. And while I'm glad to see that they are getting vaccinated, you just now for a lot of them, it's just so they can continue to get their freak on. I hope to god this doesn't mutate and become airborne..

XX_Power , femlez34 & pennygadget #transphobia ovarit.com

Should the LGB use right/conservative platforms to address grooming, child abuse in the LGBTQ+?
(124 votes/ 67% yes
62 votes/ 33% no)

( XX_Power )
Yes absolutely but our conservatives are considerably less batshit than the American ones. Either way, abusing, sterilizing and butchering children should be NON PARTISAN. If one side explicitly makes themselves the pro mutilating children party, well how could it be wrong to side with their opponents?.

( femlez34 )
Normally I would say no, but when we're talking about protecting children and the most vulnerable women, we don't have any time to waste. It's not like most of us want to be speaking on Fox news, it's that we've been banned and de-platformed everywhere else! Left leaning platforms want to just sweep this under the rug, maybe if we keep making it a topic of national conversation they'll be forced to include us at some point.

( pennygadget )
I voted yes. As someone who used to be active in the Tea Party and have far more right wing views than I do now, I know a lot about this. Part of the reason I came back to more moderate stances is because I saw left wing people like Lierre Keith appear on outlets like Fox News and Steven Crowder's show. I liked what they had to say and sought them out on their own platforms. I never would have done that if they didn't appear on the platforms I actually watched.

If the LGBs want to change hearts and minds, they won't get there by only singing to the left wing choir. They need to get ahead of this groomer shit by telling conservatives who might not know better that organizations like Stonewall and Pink News don't represent the majority of normal LGB people. And, by getting their voice out there, they might entice other people like me to reevaluate their politics in general and step outside their political comfort zone.

I became very right wing in my 20s because I felt betrayed by the left and how it was moving away from basic liberal values like free speech. And I see a lot of other people on the same trajectory right now because they were excommunicated from left wing circles for bullshit reasons. This is why its so vital for sane feminist and LGB activists to get their voices out however they can.

n3847 #transphobia ovarit.com

I say wipe out "transitioning" and Gender Ideology all together. I'm tired of these creeps and this inane whining from AGP men who need to shove themselves in w women. Ugh, get away CREEPS! Go compete w men and leave us alone. Tired of this.

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