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MiccyNare #racist christianforums.com

I would never marry someone of another race. Why?
"Z0MG Z0MG Z0MG IT'S BECUZ YOU HATE BLACKS LOLOL WOW LOOK HOW DUMB I AM"

Actually, that's not it at all. It's because the white race is a dying breed, and I don't like that idea. God made people black, white, brown, yellow, to show His creativity and every aspect of the beauty of His creation, and I'd hate to see part of that creation wiped out for the sake of political correctness.
Unfortunately, all anyone thinks when they see the sentence: "I would never marry someone of another race", is "WOW YOU RACIST BIGOTED HOMOPHOBIC OLD FASHIONED HATEMONGER"

MachZer0 #fundie christianforums.com

Republicans are constantly accused of using fear but I am yet to find one person who has become fearful because of the Republicans.

[you are saying the Republicans don't use fear?]

It's obvious since there is nobody who has become fearful due to Republican policies or campaigns

Quantumtheologica1 #fundie christianforums.com

A Democrat win is a victory for Terrorist!!

Anybody with any common sense knows that three people will be happy if the democrats win Congress. Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi and Osama Bin Laden. The terrorist will be dancing in their caves and I wouldn't be surprised if Osama Bin Laden or one of his henchmen make a tape claiming some kind of victory. This is clearly a sign of retreat because the democrats basically ran on the terrorist platform, I hate Bush too and I'm against Iraq. So of course this is a sign of weakness and I think the American people want to give the terrorist a victory to appease them. I don't understand people in this country who have the mentality if we leave them alone that they will leave us alone. They attacked the WTC before Iraq twice, the U.S.S. Cole and the Embassy in Africa. The terrorist will kill your family in front of you in a heartbeat.

You know democrats say that there were no terrorist in Iraq before we got there, that tells you that the terrorist don't care about Iraq they only came there to kill Americans. So common sense tells you that if we cut and run out of Iraq that they will follow us back to America and the fight will take place on the streets of Maryland, Washington D.C. and New York. Freedom is not free and when people are going into Walmart or Tops with armed guards and sniffing dogs at the door maybe they will realize this but I think it will be too late. It's almost a certainty that the terrorist will follow us to the streets of America if we leave Iraq. If the democrats win Congress, I think the troops will be home in less than a year and the terrorist will follow them. Then this will be a different country. I'm already making plans to leave the country because the American people don't have the will to fight for freedom. We are fighting against people that fly planes into buildings and if you think that when we retreat that they will just leave us alone you must have your head in the sand. When we cut and ran out of Somolia Bin Laden called America paper tigers and said that we couldn't stand to see violence on T.V. I think this country is in BIG trouble.

Riddick51PB #fundie christianforums.com

Sometimes I wonder if God helps us in small ways. Say I drop something to the floor, like happened to me the other day. When I bend over to pick it up, it stretches my back after sitting all day. It resulted in unexpected relief to my aching spine. Did God "help" me to drop that item, knowing it would result in relief to my aching back? Does He care about the small things? Absolutely. Does he do the same thing for the Atheist? There's no doubt in my mind. It is my feeling that Christ sets their beliefs aside and does what He can to accomodate them. While I was typing this in, I got an update notice from Firefox browser, that the jsLib Lite extension had a new release, and was ready to self-install on my command. One could look at that and say, "Hmm, js=jesus? The Prince of Light/Lite?". Did Jesus inspire me to write that first paragraph? It's entirely possible. He can, afterall, stop my hard drive on a dime or send anything through my computer at whatever time he wants. It's all under his command. Yes, even my computer.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

[there is nothing quite like John]

Language is essential to life. Cells communicate with each other using chemical & electrical signals. You can not have organisms without communication.

So language would have began with the vocal cords.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

What does science say? I was told that we are make up of elements. Where do the elements come from that make us up? Mars? Venus? Earth? It is amazing the extent deceived people go to in order to try to avoid the truth.

When I was growing up they use to say we were make up of about $10 worth of elements that could be bought from any science supply catalog. Now perhaps it would be three times that amount.

earth (ûrth) n. 1.a. The land surface of the world. b. The softer, friable part of land; soil, especially productive soil

Robinsegg #fundie christianforums.com

Also, there is evidence in Scripture (and elsewhere) that humans didn't always mature at such an early age. Even 150 years ago, girls reached puberty at an average age of 17, instead of the average age of 11 now. Therefore, the fact children reach adolescence earlier is a product of the Fall and of sin in the world, not Gods' will.

Skillganon & Janissary #fundie christianforums.com

(Topic: Sharia Law punishment and death sentence under it.)

Skillganon: ... but ultimately punishment is carried out because it is commanded so.

Janissary: Yes, and need there be any other reason? Is not being commanded by God sufficient reason?

[By-Stander] - (Interrupts telling them that perhaps their interpretation could be wrong and that common sense could tell them that such harsh punishments/death sentense under Sharia Law aren't necessary.)

Janissary: Well, of course I'll examine scripture. But once it is clear what God commands, what reason can there (from a religious perspective) be not to obey?

supersport #fundie christianforums.com

Most of today's science is a joke....science is run by a bunch of chance-loving atheists who have constructed an intellectual moat around themselves -- this moat disallows the free-flow of any information that contradicts the basic dogma they have constructed for their made-up, Sesame-Street-like fairytale world.

MercyBurst #fundie christianforums.com

I remember watching lions devour a zebra on a nature show, and thinking to myself -- so this is what nature has become -- a cruel, uncaring, brutal struggle where everyone is looking out for themselves. [...]

But some day Jesus is going to fix it. The lion will lay down beside the lamb and have molars in his mouth. This is what the bible tells me.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

[Yes actually. How many Christians do you know that put their wives outside the city when they're menstruating, or even follow the dietary laws in Leviticus?]

Are you married? I think that is pretty good advice to put your wife outside when she is "menstruating".

As far as the dietary laws. The Bible does not say anything different than science does. Do you think we should ignore the research and ignore their advise?

If you do not follow the dietary laws, you will suffer the consequences for not following those laws.

AJB4 #fundie christianforums.com

Yeah Christians in general get quite a bad name these days. I'm all for individuality, but people are becoming far too Liberal these days, to the point where one day the whole world will probably be destroyed by nuclear warfare.

Supersport #fundie christianforums.com

[Apparently not, you appear to think AIDS is a gay man's disease. ]

It is a gay man's disease. The only way a regular person can catch it is if he/she sleeps with a homo.

Homosexuals have blood on their hands from all the misery they've caused from starting Aids. Back in the 80s the only people who had AIDS were homosexuals. do you deny this?

godishardcore #fundie christianforums.com

At the moment we are studying tectonic activity and my teacher claims that the plates of the earth are caused to move by convection currents in the mantle, HOWEVER my priest tells me that god is actually moving the plates!! i do not know what to believe!

is studying geography making me a bad catholic?
will i go to hell for it?

Monica02 #fundie christianforums.com

Our local newshour had a segmnet on female Cahtolic "priests" a couple of nights ago. It showed a female in vestments (pretending to be) celebrating Mass and identified her as a "Roman Catholic Priest".

I was so repulsed by the sight I had to turn away and not look at the "mass". I know the orders were not valid and that the news was badly mistaken in their report. I am troubled by my own emotional reaction. I can look at some pretty gory and repugnant sights and not have to turn away.

CAn anyone offer some explanations as to why I reacted the way I did. DOes anyone else react that way when they see a "female priest" celebrating "mass"?

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

4 Reasons against Evolution

1. NOT ENOUGH TIME
*Using the Bible to calculate time, one concludes that the earth has gone around the sun roughly 6100 times. This is much too short a timespan for evolution to have occurred.

2. THERE IS NO ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT
*Genesis 1:31 - And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

3. NO ANIMALS DIED PRIOR TO THE FALL
*Romans 5:12 - Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

4. JESUS BELIEVED IN CREATION - NOT EVOLUTION
*Mark 10:6 - But from the beginning of the creation God made them male and female.

ONEGod #fundie christianforums.com

Liberals insisted that abortions were a "right" (certainly not for the baby involved) then demanded the public (Feds) pay for it.
Liberals insist that embroyonic stem cell research must be made legal, except it already is commonly legal. What they want/demand is the public (Feds) pay for it.
In both cases i think they desire that the blood of the innocent be upon the nation to incur the wrath of God

Bookofknowledge #fundie christianforums.com

[When questioned if he loved or hated homosexuals]

Why should I Love them?

the way I see it, Don't you think they in-directly hate Life? Imagine a town with all homosexuals and no new child is born to become a doctor and no outsiders visit that town then the life-span of that town will be gone within a matter of year.

Infact the whole town will be dead only if the doctors of that town are gone...

It's a greater risk to humanity at large and it's a Major factor is that it's a SIN.

May Allah protect us all and make us love a new born child who has the potential of becoming a doctor, etc... (new life)....

gracechick #fundie christianforums.com

[Giving advice to a woman whose 3-year-old daughter throws temper tantrums all the time]

Is there anything in your house or your life that could have drawn unclean things in?
& if you believe in generational curses as I do...seeking the Spirit about them for you & your spouse's family line might be another direction to go.

Ultimately her parents will be the ones that can truely sense whether this is coming from the natural realm of the supernatural realm

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

A womens hair is given to her for a covering. I attended a church where some of the more devout younger women had long thick hair. It really was beautiful when they would go to the alter to pray. Their hair was a covering, to show their modesty. Just like they wore modest clothing that covered them. Of course not all women are that devoted to God and it is not our place to judge them.

Isaiah talks about "haughty" women and how God will make them bald. I wonder sometimes if the reason people have problem with thin hair or their hair falling out is because they have a problem with being haughty, arrogance or with pride in some way.

susanann #fundie christianforums.com

Ummmmm, I believe it is the males who have been the (oppressed) minority group for at least the past 100 years.

Women outnumber men, and therefore it is women who have effective control over our government, our laws, our courts, our leaders, etc.

Secondly, for the past 100 years, it is women who have the most control in raising our children, and therefore it is women who instill the values and in controllng our society and its customs and beliefs.

Little boys and little girls are taught to be who they are, taught to think like they do ----by women.

As far as shaving, makeup, plastic surgery, wearing high heels or sneakers, skirts, pants, dresses, etc, it is women who have the choice to to do so or not, men are prohibited by society's rules( put into place by women) from doing such things.
[...]
Males have extreme limitations on what jobs they can have, what they can wear, and what their appearance can be by the rules women have set down in our society. Women can do any job, and wear anything she wants to wear.

Women control over 60% of our nations wealth.
[...]
Women also live longer than men and inherit everything.

dad #fundie christianforums.com

[Is heaven on top of the big cloud made of gold?]

No, it is on top of earth, and is about the size of the moon. An interesting fact is that this moon sized object of gold will land on earth. If a moon tried it now, gravity would exist, and we would be wiped out good and proper. Heavens, imagine the tides even?! That means that gravity, as we know it, just will not apply. Neither of course will decay.
Our present state of the universe, and laws of physics will be no more. That is real science 101.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

Oh, I am capable of having a scientific debate. I am not able to deal with people rejecting the scientific evidence, when conflicts with what they want to believe.

Showing evolution to be a evil lie is like shooting fish in a barrel...

lioninoil #fundie christianforums.com

[Are you saying that civil government, in a secular society, should have the authority to enforce specific theological doctrines? Would there be equally nothing wrong with a Muslim saying that everyone should be forced to live as a Muslim?]

In Saudi Arabia and Iran, everybody is required to live as a Muslim. I see no reason why we shouldn't do the same thing in America, which is a Christian nation established by Christians, for Christians. As a Christian nation, we can (and should) require everybody to live as a Christian -- or at least offer a higher class of citizenship to Christians. People who do not want to abide by established Christian beliefs and norms are free to live elsewhere.

[And there are some huge differences in what Christians believe, and how Christians live. So what kind of "Christian" should all the rest of us be forced to emulate? Should we be forced to live like the Quakers, or the Amish, or the Anglicans, or the Catholics, or the Mormons? How do you decide which kind of Christian is the "right" one?]

It should be self-evident to any Christian what a Christian is supposed to believe and how a Christian is supposed to live. As an atheist, you would not know this -- but it still does not relieve you of the responsibility of living like a Christian if you are going to CHOOSE to live in a Christian society.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

["Let me add school teachers to the list of people whose integrity you insult."]

They should be insulted. But I made it very clear this is a personal vendeda. But even if my reasons are personal, I have every reason to believe that we need to protect our young people from the abuse they receive from the public school system. Also we need to protect them from the Godless, atheistic nonsense that they teach in the public school system. Like the Godless theory of evolution, for example.

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

[evolution has no alters]

Oh, there is a alter and they like to sacrifice women at the alter. But they will sacrifice a man ever now and then if he really bucks the system and goes up against the status quo, no matter how right he maybe.

Lifesaver #fundie christianforums.com

Sex is a wonderful thing, a gift of God for man.
It is a very good activity, and rightly pleasurable, since its ultimate end is one of the most noble and beautiful ones man can achieve during his life: the conception of a new person.

Man is not a mere animal. For him sex is a lot more than just a mechanical means for reproduction. This is undeniably the natural goal of sex, but it is not the only one: we speak also of the unitive purpose of sex, which is the deepening of the relationship between the married couple to a new level; a manifestation and a strengthening of the bonds of love which unite them both. In this unitive purpose, pleasure is also included; by giving and receiving pleasure from each other, husband and wife lead a happier and more fulfilling existence.

The great error of modernity with regards to sex is to separate its purposes.
On the one hand, Puritanism sought to eliminate the unitive purpose, bringing sex down to the level of a mechanical duty.
On the other, liberals seek to eliminate reproduction.

When a couple uses contraception, they are effectively frustrating the natural purpose of sexuality. And that is always a sin!

They fool themselves, believing that the unitive purpose may be fully realized without the procreative one; but that is false. Sex becomes an increasingly selfish activity, in which each partner seeks only their own pleasure, and the other one becomes a mere means for the fulfilment of their own lust. This is exactly what is happening in today's world.

Man has abandoned the procreative purpose, and the unitive purpose is being lost as a consequence.

Yes, I am against all forms of contraception, that is, the use of means which seek to frustrate the procreative end of any particular sexual relation.

LovesTruth #fundie christianforums.com

[Regarding Madonna's adoption.]

A woman who has sex outside of marriage and does not repent and change is immoral and a bad example. Ditto for a woman who degrades herself with her photos in obscene videos and books and does not repent and change. No court should inflict that kind of unfit parent upon a child. There are far too many wonderful, moral couples (one man and one woman) ready and willing and eager to adopt! And they will do no harm to their children.

God's curse rests upon those who contribute to the harm of children in my opinion. That includes politicians and judges who help make this harm possible. And God is not mocked. The Bible says that the mills of God grind slow but sure.

lioninoil #fundie christianforums.com

because EVE is responsible for bringing sin into the world (and not Adam) it is through women that the stain of original sin travels through every human being alive today, or has ever been alive or who will ever be alive. Men do not transmit original sin, but receive original sin by being borne of women.

For this reason, women are not allowed to teach men, or lead men, or have any authority over men in any way, shape or fashion -- because Satan knows what the weakest link to tempting man is through a woman.

revolutiongames2004 #fundie christianforums.com

by killing the baby you are implying that that Human is an Animal, is that what you are saying? an animal has no choice on whether it lives or dies, thats a humans choice, so are you saying that this soon to be born baby is an animal i think you are mistaken.

lioninoil #fundie christianforums.com

[So, God is a "Do as I say, not as I do" type of guy, in your view.]

If He so chooses.

God is not beholden to our rules and our ideas of what we think is right or wrong; and it's God's prerogative to eliminate a group of people (like the Midianites, or Sodom and Gomorrah) if it suits His purpose.

CyberCheat #fundie christianforums.com

I am not playing God, my Friend and Father. I simply know Him well and know how He would respond. If I wanted to play God, I would start making "corrections" to the Bible to make it "easier" to follow. I also might take over the world and start making the Mark mandatory and I would eventually get thrown to hell. But that's not the case here, is it? No, I am not playing God, and I haven't since my church's play in where I played His voice.

Machjo #racist christianforums.com

[On whether the alleged use of white phosphorus by Israel in Lebanon makes the Israelis terrorists]

Zionists and terrorists are not the same. Terrorists hide behind the veil of Islam, and that's not acceptable. To hide behind the veil of Judaism, on the other hand, is a truly blessed act.

Machjo #racist christianforums.com

[Read the history of Israel. From the Hotal David incident until the present not only have there been incidents of terrorism but now the former terrorists are in power and determined that their way of doing things is the only way.]

Yeah, but it was being done in the name of Judaism, so it was OK. Now had they done that in the name of Islam on the other hand, woe to them.

angelsword #fundie christianforums.com

This is to all member of the Christiain forums, Christian and non-Christian. I want to inform you of a network (the name of which I do not know) headed by Satan and run by humans whose job it is to kill, steal and destroy!

Members of this evil network physically and spiritually attack by subtle means. They send out evil spirits to destroy your transportation, keep you in debt, make you late for work, important meetings, make it difficult for your children to maintain/obtain good grades, cause death or loss of pets, cause insomnia, slow you up in college, make promotions years over due,make you lose/misplace objects of value, put substances in your medication causing insanity or hallucinations, cause overeating, depression, stop church growth, etc.

They can negatively affect your goal orientation, your morals/morale, your peace and happiness; your life in general!

Their network is sophisticated and WORLD WIDE! They communicate just as we do by email and other means. These people occupy professions such as doctors, nurses, pre-school teachers, librarians, guidance councellors, factory workers, custodians, celebrities, authors, airline associates adn any other occupation you can think or!

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

The teachers I had growing up, that did not follow the Bible, I found to be rather abusive. If they can not teach the message of the Bible, then they should at least be required to live it as a example for the students.

AV1611VET #fundie christianforums.com

[Stating that people believed this in the past doesn't make it correct. Many people believed that Zeus was the cause of lightning bolts a little over 2000 years ago.]

Is everything you don't understand a fairy tale to you, Chalnoth, or can you think on your own?

JohnR7 #fundie christianforums.com

Adam and Eve in the Bible were real people and their descendants today make up 20% of Europe.

Of course that means that 80% of Europeans are NOT decended from the Bible Adam and Eve. But they were decended from the out of Africa Adam and Eve. [...]

Of course science wants to try to confuse the issue to hide that the Bible is true and that the DNA evidence shows that the Bible is true.

The Adam and Eve in the Bible were the first of a lot of different things. This is the beginning of civilization, of written history just to name a few. The Bible talks about precious metals like God and Silver. That takes us out of the stone age to be sure.

The Bible talks about farming, and that is what the neolithic revolution is all about is the beginning of farming. There is no question that the Bible as written history gives us a valuable record of some of the things that were going on in the world at that time.

B®ent #fundie christianforums.com

There are two types of aliens --

1. The Watchers ("sons of God")
2. Actual extraterrestrial beings

I believe both frequently visit earth -- the former to pave way for the Antichrist, and as for the latter, I am not sure of their intentions (there are many theories). But I do know the Watchers shared the secrets of the universe with extraterrestrials -- that is why extraterrestrials are much more advanced than us! I believe world governments have been given a choice: keep UFOs a secret and permit abductions, or face swift annihilation. Perhaps the 'Signs' and 'Independence Day' scenarios aren't so far fetched after all?

B®ent #fundie christianforums.com

[Non-sequitor Bible verses omitted for brevity]

The Pre-Adamites; Children of Satan; N.W.O. (New World Order)

I believe there were Pre-Adamites.

Pre-Adamites were angelic beings who inhabited not only the earth, but also a temperate Venus, Mars and Rahab. Lucifier was the archangel who ruled over these worlds. He became arrogant, however, and desired more power than that which was vested in him by the Lord.

Lucifer's rebellion was met with destruction. His home planet of Rahab, which existed between Mars and Jupiter, was completely annihilated. Rahab's existence was reduced to what we know today as the Asteroid Belt between Mars and Jupiter. It is also likely God used pieces of the planet to pour out His wrath upon Venus, Earth and Mars. This would explain why evidence of catastrophe on these planets is so profound. Mars was clearly once a habitable planet; so was Venus, in all likelihood.

The Dragon is Lucifer. With his world destroyed, he and his minions were scattered. There, rebellious angels later engaged in sexual relations with the daughters of men. This resulted in a angel-human hybrid race. [...]

These fallen angels exist today as "aliens." It is my belief that these fallen beings possess technology greater than ours, including what we know as UFOs, and inhabit the inner crust of the earth. The earth is hollow. The crust of the earth is 800 to 1000 miles thick, and there is a small sun at the center of the earth. The inner-earth is (or at least was) a tropical paradise. It is quite possible Eden existed in the inner-earth. It is also quite possible Paradise (of which Jesus spoke on the Cross) is located within the earth.

The Bermuda Triangle is likely a portal into the inner-earth; this would explain the many disappearances, sightings of UFOs, and other strange occurences.

HolyGuardianAngels #fundie christianforums.com

[What if you died and went before God and discovered that it was Allah?]

I can SWEAR on a STACK of Holy Bibles
that that ain't gonna happen . . .

ALLA sounds like a womans' NAME,
and for one thing, I don't worship WOMEN . . .

NEXT
It just so happens that
ALLA
just isn't the Maker
the Creator
or Sustainer of everything . . .

You are missing a critical POINT:

It comes down to:
Isaac and Ishmael

that's the FORK in the proverbial road . . .


With a host of other folks, I
will be going up the LADDER
STRAIGHT after Isaac


NOT
Ishmael . . .

Please reconsider . .

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