#homophobia

All about the Gay Agenda

Alex Jones #conspiracy #homophobia youtube.com

(Transscript of video)
In the interval [?] the Pentagon just tested a gay bomb on Iraq, they considered it, they didn’t [?] consider using it, they used it on our troops, in Vietnam, they sprayed PCP on our troops - Jacob’s Ladder - ha - you think PCP - some horse tranquilizers or something? They got some stuff that’ll whack your brain permanently.
[pause]
Brain chips in the troops. They give the troops special vaccines that really [?] nanotech that auto[?]-re-engineers their brains.
[pause]
Now there is the gay bomb.
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Look it up for yourself, this is what do you think tap water is, it’s a gay bomb, baby.
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And I’m not saying people didn’t naturally have homosexual feelings, I’m not even getting into it, quite frankly, give me a break. You think I… I’m, like, shocked by it [?] [incomprehensible] bashing it because I don’t like gay people. I DON’T LIKE THEM PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER! THEY TURN THE FRICKING FROGS GAY!
[pause]
Do you understand that?
Ungh! Ungh! Ungh! Ungh! [bangs paper on table]
Crap!
I’m sick of being socially engineered! It’s not funny!

thecrystaltems #homophobia thecrystaltems.tumblr.com

men have a lot more to gain by claiming ace identities than women do, especially white men.

in fact they have everything to gain.

with an ace identity they have the capacity to claim that they are incapable of being complicit in the sexual violence perpetuated by men onto women. they can also use an ace identifier to argue that they are less voyeuristic, less fetishistic, and less prone to objectifying women than other men are.

this is huge scapegoating potential for men - for white men in particular - who are, as it stands, not the victims of discourse that posits them as hypersexual or animalistic. not only can men use this identifier to excuse them if their own misogyny, but they can also utilize an ace identity to their own racial advantage, further positing men of color as hypersexual and out of control. they can essentially use aceness as another way of blaming men of color for sexual violence against women (side note: white women who use the ace label are also absolutely capable of framing themselves as innocent victims of misogyny in juxtaposition to the “nasty” women of color who obviously “deserve” whatever violence they receive)

on the other hand, women generally don’t really gain anything when using an ace identifier (besides the above side note). in fact, it seems pretty clear that a woman who uses an ace identifier may be engaging in yet another act that increases the likelihood of her experiencing sexual harassment, assault, and even rape.

that’s what it means to say that “acephobia” is better understood as a facet of misogyny or racism rather than a standalone category of oppression.

the fact that white men stand to actively gain something by identifying under the ace spectrum is really telling of the gendering and racializing at play.

Spud #fundie #homophobia religionethics.co.uk

Unfortunately, Rhi, the Bible does say that people who practise homosexuality are not in God's kingdom. This is stated in 1 Cor 6:9 and 1 Tim 1:10. So that answers Sassy's point, and means that Christians need to abstain from this as they would abstain from adultery - if they want to be living for God. The passage in acts where the apostles decided which aspects of the Mosaic law needed to be kept by Gentile believers, is to do with those things that God prohibited in Leviticus 17 and 18 which applied to Israelites and non Israelites living with them. The connection should be clear.
But in answer to your second point: yes, people desire sex and that desire is essential to continuing the human race. But there are obvious limits beyomd which the sexual instinct needs to be restrained, and one of those is with homosexual urges. There is a reflex in men which deals with excess build up of sperm. Therefore there is no biological requirement for a man to have sex with another person. I don't know if the equivalent happens with women, and the OT mentions nocturnal emissions as being normal and not sinful. I think the area I need to think through more is how homosexual relationships cause harm. I was friends with a gay bloke and a lesbian at one time, and I was aware that I was personally affected by their homosexuality, because I fancied the lesbian and the bloke fancied me... A right muddle!

sweetlingsuniverse #wingnut #homophobia #sexist sweetlingsuniverse.tumblr.com

You got it!

But it doesn’t stop there either. The homofascist agenda of same-sex marriage and the innumerable petty impositions that come with it are in truth all part of the same matriarchic tyranny. By the way, the majority in Obergefell v. Hodges did not grant the freedom of homosexuals to marry as it cynically averred. The freedom to “marry” is not something the government actually grants at all.

Stay with me. .

What these thugs of the judiciary did was grant the government the power to universally impose a construct of marriage contrary to the imperatives of the natural order and against the inalienable rights of private property and ideological free-association of natural law on the people!

There was nothing stopping anyone from entering any kind of marital association.

This is all about the official approbation of homo marriage, which, of course, just established a universal regime that will violate not civil rights, which is the essence of what the Court created in this instance out of thin air, as the state can neither create nor abolish natural rights, but inalienable rights of natural law. That is to say, more of the following: The same-sex marriage tyranny.

The only thing the government can do with regard to natural rights — is suppress and/or criminalize the act of expressing or exercising them. Hello!

The only sense in which the government could possibly permit the freedom to marry is to the get the hell out of regulating marriage all together.

Hocus Pocus

Now ya see it, now ya don’t.

Of course, the issue with doing business with homosexuals is not doing business with homosexuals; the issue is the state compelling persons to actively participate in homofascist rituals, the state forcing persons to engage in activities that go beyond the normal business transactions of ideological and behavioral neutrality. This is the practice of compelling persons to engage in behavior that is contrary to persons’ religious and/or moral convictions or else pay a fine or go to jail! The is imposing the "religion" and/or “morality” of homofascists on Christians. Christians will now be the new nigger in the face of the repressive tolerance of cultural Marxism on steroids under the universal regime of same-sex marriage.

Religious liberty and the governmentally imposed lifestyles of cultural Marxism, including feminism and the various expressions of homosexuality, cannot freely coexist. Welcome to the next front of social strife and instability.

David J. Stewart #fundie #homophobia #kinkshaming jesusisprecious.org

Does Taylor Swift love the young girls to whom she is sensually gyrating, behaving promiscuously, teaching revenge in her lyrics and SEXUALIZING!!! Is that genuine love? No, that's perverted lust! I wouldn't be surprised at all if Taylor Swift eventually comes out that she is a gay homosexual. Taylor is a spiritual mess!!! Check online and you'll discover that the gay community praises Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift's pro-homosexual song, “Welcome To New York,” has been adopted as an anthem by the homosexual community. Don't be fooled, Taylor Swift is no Christian, and she's not the innocent good girl that the media portrays her as. God only knows how many men are in prison for committing sexual crimes inspired by filthy sexualizing videos like Taylor Swift's. America has turned into an amoral hellhole!!! It's not innocent!!! TAYLOR SWIFT'S SENSUAL MUSIC VIDEOS ARE NOT INNOCENT!!!

Communist Party of China #homophobia theguardian.com

China bans depictions of gay people on television

The Chinese government has banned all depictions of gay people on television, as part of a cultural crackdown on “vulgar, immoral and unhealthy content”.

Chinese censors have released new regulations for content that “exaggerates the dark side of society” and now deem homosexuality, extramarital affairs, one night stands and underage relationships as illegal on screen.

Last week the Chinese government pulled a popular drama, Addicted, from being streamed on Chinese websites as it follows two men in gay relationships, causing uproar among the show’s millions of viewers.

The government said the show contravened the new guidelines, which state that “No television drama shall show abnormal sexual relationships and behaviours, such as incest, same-sex relationships, sexual perversion, sexual assault, sexual abuse, sexual violence, and so on.”

The ban also extends to smoking, drinking, adultery, sexually suggestive clothing, even reincarnation. China’s State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television told television producers it would constantly monitor TV channels to ensure the new rules were strictly adhered to.

The clampdown follows an increase in cultural censorship in China since Xi Jinping came to power in November 2012. In December 2014, censors stopped a TV show, The Empress of China, from being broadcast because the actors showed too much cleavage. The show only returned to screens once the breasts had been blurred out.

In September 2015, a documentary about young gay Chinese called Mama Rainbow was taken down from all Chinese websites.

The new regulations have angered gay activists in China, who have fought for two decades to overcome the substantial stigma in their country against homosexuality. It was only decriminalised in 1997 and was only taken off the official list of mental illnesses in 2001.

In November, one Chinese campaigner took the government to court over its description of homosexuality as a “psychological disorder” in textbooks.

Amy Matveyev #fundie #homophobia johnburton.net

This is 100 percent true. Homosexuality is a satanic bondage that prevents the LGBT community from walking out their destiny/calling assigned by God. Only a few people stand strong against this. And it is the people who have strong spiritual discernment. As a worship leader and experiencing God's powerful and sweet presence, there is nothing in his presence that makes me feel that homosexuality is even close to being acceptable. I understand the whole equal rights movement but when John Burton mentions that accepting homosexuality is only step one to the satanic plan that changes everything. The satanic strategy is to accept this and than take dominion for destruction. Wow. The people who overlook that are blind. I believe we should love and accept one another but I know deep down inside that homosexuality is not okay or acceptable by God.

And those of you who claim that there is nothing that talks about homosexuality in the bible. Please read your bible.

Romans 1:18-32
But God shows his anger from heaven against all sinful, wicked people who suppress the truth by their wickedness.... Yes, they knew God, but they wouldn't worship him as God or even give him thanks. And they began to think up foolish ideas of what God was like. As a result, their minds became dark and confused. Claiming to be wise, they instead became utter fools. And instead of worshiping the glorious, ever-living God, they worshiped idols made to look like mere people and birds and animals and reptiles.

So God abandoned them to do whatever shameful things their hearts desired. As a result, they did vile and degrading things with each other's bodies. They traded the truth about God for a lie. So they worshiped and served the things God created instead of the Creator himself, who is worthy of eternal praise! Amen.

That is why God abandoned them to their shameful desires. Even the women turned against the natural way to have sex and instead indulged in sex with each other. And the men, instead of having normal sexual relations with women, burned with lust for each other. Men did shameful things with other men, and as a result of this sin, they suffered within themselves the penalty they deserved.

Since they thought it foolish to acknowledge God, he abandoned them to their foolish thinking and let them do things that should never be done. Their lives became full of every kind of wickedness, sin, greed, hate, envy, murder, quarreling, deception, malicious behavior, and gossip. They are backstabbers, haters of God, insolent, proud, and boastful. They invent new ways of sinning, and they disobey their parents. They refuse to understand, break their promises, are heartless, and have no mercy. They know God's justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too. (NLT)

TheEndOfFappingIsNear #conspiracy #homophobia fstdt.com

Homosexuals are on the forefront of the feminist anti-masturbation movement. They enjoy anal pleasure and genital mutilation and so they support prostate milking clinics and spiked/bladed chastity devices. There is also a high correlation with pedophilia, which fits juvenile chastity cages. The homosexual agenda is a front for feminism and must also be stopped.

Synod UO GCC #fundie #homophobia uogcc.org.ua

A. Franco, former Nuncio to Ukraine, committed crimes not only against morality but also against the Church and the nation. He usurped Church power by promoting Lubomyr Husar, who had been excommunicated for 17 years, to the post of Head of the Church in spite of a protest by three Metropolitans. Husar proclaims heresies, promotes homosexuality and is the founder of the Masonic group “The First of December” which has organized a coup against the legitimate government. The Church structure established by him is apostatical. He keeps the common believers in darkness and in heresy and leads them into temporal and eternal self-destruction.

It is publicly known that the whole Vatican is under God’s curse by reason of heresies denying the Divinity of Christ and by reason of pernicious syncretism which hundreds of thousands of martyrs fought against. The curse is on the Vatican also because of its approval of the abomination of homosexuality and paedophilia.

We propose that the Government of Ukraine should see to it that the current Nuncio is exiled for his participation in a coup. He was obliged to warn and admonish the representatives of the Roman and Greek Catholic Church in Ukraine not to organize a coup leading to a homodictatorship and autogenocide of Ukraine.

Apostolic Nunciature in Ukraine is harmful to the true Christian faith as well as to the nation, since it promotes heresies, syncretism, homosexuality and paedophilia. Therefore it must be abolished. We propose that the Secretariat of State should not wait until the Government of Ukraine justly exiles the Nuncio, abolishes the Nunciature and exposes the crimes committed. Remove the Nuncio Yourselves and abolish the Nunciature!

Imperial Wizard #fundie #homophobia ikkkkk.org

Our society today teaches us that Homosexuality is alright. The President and Vice-President endorse this shameful act, members of Congress endorse this shameful act, and now the Homosexual rights advocates have oral arguments right now before the U. S. Supreme Court.
So our question is this:
If you are a real Christian and believe in the Bible then join with us and together we can stop this illness of Homosexuality that has polluted our government and threatens to pollute the next generation. Join the Ku Klux Klan today "Soldiers of the Cross"
We all know according to the teachings of the Bible what is going to happen to the Homosexuals, in the rapture if Christ

Xeru #homophobia battledawn.com

Basically, if you cede homosexuals the right to marry, it turns into a slippery slope.


It's not what giving homosexuals the right to marry that's the problem. It's what giving homosexuals the right to marry represents. It represents that our society has become one that supports and tolerates something that is against biology, against the fundamental parts of being a human, tolerates something that natural selection has weeded out a long time ago and for good reason, tolerates something that is, on all levels, wrong.

I am not religious. But I will not tolerate something that runs contrary to the basic functions to the human race. If we endorse homosexuality, we open the freedom to bestiality, to polygamy, to incest. THAT is UNTHINKABLE. The legalization of same-sex marriage will be used as precedence to legalize marriage in that respect, and so, it follows logically, if you advocate for same-sex marriage, you advocate for polygamy, for beastiality, for incest legalization. Do you really?

Society is not prepared to accept homosexuality. How do I know this? you ask. Well, quite simply, the fact that same-sex marriage is not legal is perfect evidence.

Marriage is between a man and a woman. Period. That is the way the law writes it, and quite frankly, the law does not need to be agreed with. Humanity has survived quite adequately for millennia without homosexuality, so your "stagnant society" argument holds no water.

Once again, I am okay with putting all of the homosexuals away from society and letting them do whatever. But by allowing them to marry, I allow them into my society, into a society that does not wish for them to be there. Violence from religious group follows. Allowing homosexuals into society will only ensue instability. But even on a smaller scale, same-sex marriage enables homosexual couples to receive the same benefits that heterosexual couples receive. They should not receive equal treatment, at least in the same system.

Aister, you miss an ultimate question. Why do homosexuals fight for the right to marry? Because they want to force themselves unto society.

tl;dr, my main arguments
Slippery Slope
Society is not prepared to accept homosexuals, and the legalization of marriage will allow homosexuals to force themselves onto society.
Heck, it's just wrong.

Being with someone you love is not against the law. Wanting to marry a person of the same gender is. I'll admit freely--while I can see where religion comes from, where racial attitudes comes from, I do not understand homosexuality. At all. And the fact that it causes many people in society qualms because the sight of a man cuddling with another man is quite frankly disgusting means that it is thus indecent.

Xeru #homophobia battledawn.com

[ Personally I think homosexuality is rather disgusting (but I'm a hypocrite when it comes to lesbians...shame on me), but who am I...who are we pretending to be by saying SOMEONE ELSE cannot have a different ideology than us? ]

Weak. To use a comparison, think about how having sex and going nude in public is illegal under 'public indecency'. Your argument here does not apply. "Personally, I think that going nude in public is rather disgusting, but who am I...who are we pretending to be by saying SOMEONE ELSE cannot have a different ideology than urs?" I mean, do you see how this doesn't hold any water? 'Different ideology', as demonstrated by the current laws and those of history, does not grant you a universal right to do whatever you want. The opinions of society must be taken into account.

[ k, let's see. Ur friend is a homo, she likes girls only. Does it affect u? No, unless u like her.

Another example, u're an atheist, and ur friend is a Christian. Does that bother u? No, unless he tries to make u believe there is a god. ]

Still a weak argument. There is a reason for public indecency laws. The majority should not have to put up with an action from the minority that causes their lives to be uncomfortable. There are a lot of things that you don't like. There are a lot of things that I don't like. However, there are also things that society dislikes. I and much of society object fundamentally to the thought of having to live through something that disgusts me--not just ideologically, but biologically. For instance, society dislikes people pissing everywhere. What are you going to say now--just pin up your nose? Really? For instance, this forum dislikes me putting up nude pictures. What's your reply to that--close your eyes?

I am okay with closing up all homosexuals into a room and letting them live there. Or maybe making a homosexual town for them to live. That's what you're saying, right?

[he's talking about the reasons why marriage is forbidden.

if it's not becuz they are the same gender, it's becuz one of them is black (aka racism) or Hispanics, Jew or Muslims (religion), all of them are stupid. ]

That's a really dumb comparison to make.Racial/Cultural lines is one thing. I am prepared to transcend that.To step over what biology dictates...that's objectionable.


Once again, I am wholeheartedly open with having gays in forests and deserts, where they have nothing to do with me. I am very open to this. However, the legalization of same-sex marriage means that they have the same rights as us and can cuddle in public and can flirt in public and sneak a quick kiss in public. I cannot stand for that.

. Homosexuals can go ahead and be homosexuals. You can be whatever kind of messed up person you are. Just as long as I have no part in it.
I am okay with homosexuals being closet homosexuals. I do not want to persecute them. However, I fundamentally object to them having the same public rights as us.

Your_ACT_Score #homophobia reddit.com

I consider myself to be quite an extreme atheist but
I cant stand homosexuality. Period. I was born in China and never knew the existence of religion until I was in high school. And hearing the arguments for and against religion it was quite clear to me that religion is a joke. I honestly thought back then that Noah's Ark was like the story of Santa, I still think so today. After watching videos of "TheThinkingAtheist" and reading some papers, I became quite an extreme atheist BUT I cant stand homosexuals. And I want to know why many of you are for homosexuality. My religious friends support it because of the bible, but I see it has nothing to do with religion, to me, homosexuality is simply...disguesting The sad part is, I hate homosexuality for the same reason why I hate religion: the effect it has on the helpless young. Religious parents at times teach their children and force them into the same belief, this has been talked many times and we all know. Homosexuality affects the young as well. Not having the love and care of a father or mother is greatly detrimental to the young, which again, is innocent and do not have a choice in this matter. It is the most frustrating when religious people think I am also religious due to my view on homosexuality but in reality I am an atheist, and I am confused on what to do..
Edit: I am currently homophobic cause the reason for it far outweigh the arguments against. Research and study that has shown Gay related immune deficiency are a good part of the reason why the bullies did what they did. No one wants HIV and AIDS to spread, one of many reasons why I was homophobic. I came to see reasoning and some proper arguements but most of which was just insults and logical fallacies, though I do appreciate a few quality posts that did have some good points. I will look elsewhere for futher data, have a good day :)

I am hateful toward the homosexual parents. A bit more info: When a whole group of children decide to form together and reach a consenus to bully the same child, there has to be a good reason behind their actions. Back then I couldnt even save my friend, maybe I can stand up to 1 or 2 bullies, but not 10+, I lost a precious friend and for a whole month I can do nothing but watch him suffer. I thought to myself "1 bully might be a jerk, but 10+? , what did the kid do to deserve this?" Then I found out it was his parents when I reported to the teacher, and the fact that an adult choose to side with the children too fully convinced me it was the fault of the kid's homo parents. I made this post in hopes of ways to convince me otherwise, but all I got so far was mostly insults, which only futher convinced me against homosexuality.

[ Dude, really "I'm a bigot who is also an atheist" is all you should have typed.
The only difference between you and the religious bigots is you don't have an imaginary friend to blame it on.
]

Most Ironic post of the year... Here I am backing my arguments with reasoning, if you disagree then provide your counter arguments and support them. Instead you chose to throw an insult at me, now whos the one intolerant of other people's opinions?

I will teach my children rape, murder, and homosexuality are wrong until someone proves to me that homosexuality, unlike murder and rape, is not a wrongful behavior that harms others. Just because you are not affected, doesnt mean others arent.

First of all, saying I might be gay is similar to debating a Christian and him/her saying "there are no atheists, you just hasnt recieved the blessings etc". And about the citation, the effect of 2 parents of the same gender does not belong to this sub, but from personal experience I had a friend who had homosexual parents and was bullied by others, worst of all, on purpose or not, the teachers did minimal to help. Finally, I didnt make this post to say "We should hate on homosexuals" but rather express my troubles since I need others to convince me to accept homosexuality as I want to fit in with you all, calling me disguesting serves no purpose.

The parents will love their children the same way hetero parents would, but what about others? After a teachers conference, a friend of mine who had homo parents (that loved their child) was bullied each day into deep depression and I never saw him again (I assume the moved to another school)



Cussing at me here isnt going to save the kid from bullying and everything happens for a reason. Look at the root cause, would there be homophobia without homosexuality? His parents made the decision and the innocent kid suffered for HIS PARENTS decision. Bullying is never right, but that does not excuse his parents.

The Last Trump #homophobia christiannews.net

Yes, your treatment here by the “tolerant” ones is a good indicator of why so many companies today claim to “support” sexual perversion.
Clearly out of fear of reprisal. The bullying and hate mongering that they are subjected to if they do not, has become legendary.
Who knew that “we just want to be left alone” actually meant “you must accept, endorse and promote the gay lifestyle or we will destroy you”!
Ah well. Lesson learned…

Sassy #fundie #homophobia religionethics.co.uk

The OT was the covenant with the Jews not Christians.
It was for people in a different country at a different time. And no matter what you call this thread you cannot use it to poke at subjects that are nothing to do with the Lords Prayer.

There is no mind set to condemn or defend. That was that covenant. But today for Christians they cannot be homosexual in practice because the body is to be used for Gods Glory not mans lusts or to sin in any way.
Christ is for Christians and homosexuality is for homosexuals.  Christians are not allowed to take part in any sexual behaviour considered sin. They cannot sleep with prostitutes and they have to remain in unity with God.

So not really anything to do with Christianity is it?

TheSageOfDarkness #homophobia zeldauniverse.net

on uganda's "kill the gays bill

We don't like it, but it's not our problem. We have no right to tell other people what to do. I know People will hate me for saying that, but it's the truth.


[ ^Are you talking about homosexuality or the Death Penalty for homosexual acts. ]

Death penalty for homosexual acts.


[ If you mean what I think you mean, then you're a horrible, horrible person. If not, then I apologize for misreading.BTW, everyone has the right to tell others what to do. However, the person recieving the criticism has the right to not accept it or act on it. This applies equally to us as it does to the Ugandan government ]


Sorry. but we do not agree. I will never tell another person what to do with their life and the choices they make.

[ You're still being ambiguous. It's almost as if you're telling me that we shouldn't be telling the Ugandan government what to do.

But we're not. We're just reminding them that they don't have the right to tell homosexual people what to do, a-la your logic. ]


I know what you are saying, but us crying about it is not going to change anybodies mind. If it was me I would do it more simply because it people complain and it would piss me off. I'm sure thats how they are. Until people shut up they will just troll the ???? out of the US and any other country that complains about what their leaders do.


You're speaking as if it's our country. We have choices. We in our society can say yes or no. They do not. If somebody disagrees they die, and if they want to pass a bill, they just will. No matter what their people say. That is the bigger problem! NOT JUST GAYS! I think that is what people should worry about more. People dying for having their own mind. Not just one group of people. It makes me sick seeing people cry over gays, blacks, ect, when it is the entire masses that are being killed for just having their own outlook. Yet again though, we should not worry about them when we have our own country to unite and fix. We waste too much time on other countries.


[ on gay marriage]

I believe Homosexuality is incorrect. Not wrong, incorrect. I'm not trying to offend anybody but I can have my own opinion on it. Humans have the gift of introspection and we can tell the difference between our sexes. Nature HAS intended for male and female to be together and I should not have to explain myself. I myself cannot stand the argument, “Animals are gay too" because that is redundant as all hell. Again, we have this little thing called self-awareness. Most animals do not, and the ones that do have nothing close to our level of ours. I just don't understand how people can be with the same sex and I never will. People have told me they love them. But again, I don't believe in romantic love. Just so everybody knows I am no gay basher, I have a few gay friends and what not. But when it comes to the marriage thing, I do not think it is our right to bud in on its foundation. Marriage IS a religious coming together of a man and women. It has nothing to do with the state or with in the laws. It's something that religious people do not do and I respect it. I think gays trying to pry their way in are just disrespectful to people who believe in tradition.

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It's very simple. We have two sexes, not one. My personal look on it is some sort of brain dysfunction. I know it sounds harsh, but again, you can look up studies on this. Our bodies chemicals come into play with the opposite sex. It's our natural working order. So how can people become gay? It's intriguing the human mind.

Emotional ties can be bisexual, yes. But like other animals, humans fit into groups. We have friends and become close to one another. But we don't start humping each other either. I don't see relationships as straight or gay because I do not believe in romantic relationships. I see it as who is humping who because at the end of the day, we are organisms and we multiply. That is what life naturally is. Eat, sleep, and sex. That is what we did at the beginning of our existence. But our intellect is so advanced now, we can sit back and think about what we do. Which I think adds to human error. We make weird decisions

[ Are you implying that only religious people can get married?Also, are you implying that gays can't be religious ]

Gays can be. But thats hypocritical. Like when Gay people say, " God doesn't care who I'm with." But if they open up their little book and actually read it, they would see otherwise. . Stupid people like that who have no idea what they are talking about makes me laugh. I am not even religious and yet I know more about a lot of religions than it's own people simply because it's fascinating.

Yes. My point. We don't make the rules. Why are there 2 sexes then if that is not what nature has intended? Not just with animated life either. It goes the same for our plants too. Why do so many refuse to see the obvious? WE ARE MADE TO WORK THAT WAY! It's so sad, but I know it's true, that you can't even have your kids in 3rd grade before they have some he-she walk into a classroom and talk about gay ????. LEAVE THAT TO THE PARENTS! Not only that but I understand the caring part and emotional ties with other humans. I can kinda see how that works. But when a chick has a dick and a dude has a vag, something is not screwed in right in their heads. Sorry. If I had kids I would be really pissed off if my school had somebody teach them about ( "tolerating" ) gays, yet do not teach them facts about them or so much as point out the obvious. I had to sit through it myself but I just laughed at it. White kids and be called "honkeies" all day long and we hear "nigga" in our childrens schools everyday but "fag" is just so evil it will get a kid kicked out of school? Are you kidding me? Equal rights = Equal treatment. Not special treatment and that what they REALLY want. Not to be criticized, and people are too scared to do it in this day and age but I am not. I will not support cry babies that complain and waste my time really giving a ????. People that have lives have better ???? to do than listen to people complain. If they want to get married there are five states and a few countries they can move to.


Again, I am not a homophobe and even my gay friends understand where I am coming from. I am not trying to offend anybody.

Bolaino #fundie #homophobia #transphobia nairaland.com

well, I believe more in Obatala than The hebrew Jesus, but that bein said.In all honesty, I have no qualms with Homosexual men or lesbian women, of a truth, every human has the right to love or have sex with whoever or whatever they like, some women have sex with Dildos, while some Men have sex with Life sized dolls, and there is also the issue of Masturbation, which I have no problem with, because it is truly the right of every one to do as he or she likes.

but there is also Paedophillia, Beastiallity, and Animality, but all these sexual concepts and Practices are leading to an Obvious Fatality of the Human Race, because if we are to really encourage GAYISM, it'll become a Trend and before you know, Nigerians being very Good Copy cats will start copying GAYISM, because I know of a truth that the issue of Transgederism, is as a result of Homophobia, the Homosexual Democrats of The United states and it's Allies are turning men into women, to make Homosexuality more appealing, you could sleep with a Man and not know it, because he might be a Caitlyn Jenner or another Trans. And when you know that you've slept with a Transgender, you might like it and from there you'll start sleeping with more Transgenders and before you know, VOILA. You are hooked on Anal sex. and before you know, you are Gay.

GAYISM is Demonic, it's evil and barbaric, and I know that Ancient Greece practiced Homosexuality as a Cultural act, and therefore I am not surprised that white Men are Homosexuals. Because nearly all white men have been sexually molested while growing up, and it's that evil act of Child Molestation that has turned into Homosexuality. I don't know if you are Gay or if you have Gay Family members or Friends, and I honestly do not care. But what I care about is that I hope to never have anything to do with any Homosexual person. If you are Homosexual then I am judging you. You need spiritual Re-orientation.

Therumancer #sexist #homophobia escapistmagazine.com

It's political. To be fairly honest very few people care about lesbians in general. Guys are either turned on by it, or don't care as it has nothing to do with them. Women can use it as an insult, but in general don't care that much about it either if they aren't involved.

While I won't say it's never happened, I can't think of many examples outside of fantasy (oftentimes directed at men) where lesbians have attacked and raped children especially in the pre-sexual age groups.

Yet when it comes to gay men, the same cannot be said. When you hear about gay sexual assault it's inevitably involving men, and despite Lesbianism having been prevelent you'll notice that back in say ancient Greece you didn't have young girls being run down and captured as homosexual sex slaves the same way you had it going on with boys. This is incidently where the term "Greeking" comes from (though it doesn't nessicarly have a pedophille connotation).

In general it's the gay men that get the serious opposition when it comes to gay rights. Despite what the media might imply it's not all religious fantatics and such, nor misguided "homophobes" who dislike them for no reason other than being differant (actually most involved have reasons and frequently they have little to do with religion).

Given that the purpose of such articles is specifically to garner attention, and whether anyone wants to admit it or not, the majority of anti-gay sentiment is men against gay men, you need to focus on gay men to really make a serious issue on gay rights.


[ Is that because they are gay, or because they are men? I mean, when you hear about human sexual assault it's inevitably involving men. Occam's Razor and all, the simpler explanation seems to be about sex/gender and not sexual orientationOnly to you Cheeze, you can argue semantics either way. The bottom line is that your pro-gay, I'm not. There really isn't any point to us argueing about it anymore over the internet.

All we're going to do is retread old territory and accomplish nothing while generating hundreds of responses. ]


Only to you Cheeze, you can argue semantics either way. The bottom line is that your pro-gay, I'm not. There really isn't any point to us argueing about it anymore over the internet.

All we're going to do is retread old territory and accomplish nothing while generating hundreds of responses.


[ If you're going to post the same "gay men are rapists" thing every time homosexuality comes up, the least he can do is post the exact same response every time. Y'know, for balance. ]


His general "well maybe it's a problem with men and not with male homosexuals" is inherantly rididculous for a number of reasons. Foremost of course being the way in which he makes an absurd arguement given that we need heterosexual sex and reproduction to continue the species. So when all is said and done that pretty much trumps anything. Homosexuals by their nature do not reproduce so can be targeted to reduce a problem without hurting our species at all. Anything you target reducing the overall problem.

Plus a lot of it revolves around pre-sexual humans as I've made clear. While there are exceptions to every rule, in general when dealing with a hetero rapist or "child molestor" your dealing with someone going after teens and generally physically capable children. Someone like a Roman Polanski (going after 13 year old jailbait) being the quintessential example, along with various cases of teachers and high school students, etc... In comparison in cases when your hear about like 6-8 year old kids being sexually assaulted the perpetrator is a gay man.

Even when looking at porn, when it comes to heterosexuals your mostly looking at jailbait, for the real little kids it's *almost* universally gay porn.
...
On the other hand when you have cases of someone having sex on like an 8 year old, in the majority of cases it's a male homosexual. This is not to say heterosexuals have not done it, it's just far, far less common.

Sean #wingnut #homophobia #psycho wrongplanet.net

Stupidity is nature's way of reducing the population. Homosexuality is just a warning sign that human civilization is about to crash and burn. Maybe homosexuality in itself is wrong, mabe it isn't... but the "do whatever you want" attitude towards life that comes with homosexuality is going to cause no end of trouble for mankind.

[ Last time I checked, this attitude was more prevalent amounst straights than gays. "Do whatever you want" often means getting beaten up if you are gay, which I suppose is consistent with what you've written.. ]

Hey, I quit doing that about a decade ago...and it sure wasn't due to the school administration cracking down on it!

I used to beat up on and pick on the kids that came out early. The school administration looked the other way. I would often get a singe day of lunch detention for acts that would get a mandatory 10 year prision scentence now. I once beat a gay student with a stick, and got two days detention for damaging school property (breaking off the stick) and one day for striking a student with it. A long as you didn't attack any straight blacks or Mexicans, the school didn't really care and you could get off with only a purely ceremonial (beyond light) punishment. I quit when I realized that most kids coming out that young were probably sexual abuse victims and were probably just badly mixed up about their sexuality and probably alot of other things that were less obvious.


[ I guess I have to ask - why did you do this?I've never understood why anyone would pick on someone else as I've seemingly always wanted to stay out of any involvement with people.
Life is complicated enough without provoking more trouble.
]

At the time, I would get a mild sense of euphoria from it; kind of like a good airsoft war, or a mild version of the feeling you have getting off of a roller coaster. Not only did I not like homosexuals, but they proved to be a convenient way to get that sense of euphoria. :|

*waits for everybody to run away screaming*

[ I am shocked and saddened, but mostly I am disappointed. That sense of euphoria is also the same feeling that serial killers get when they murder people, Sean. It is horribly cruel and sadistic. I really don't know what else to say.If there weren't laws against it now, would you still do it? ]


No. I wouldn't feel like doing it again if I had the opportunity. I seem to have gradually lost pleasure in violence like that. I don't like homosexuality any more now than I did then, but I don't see violent acts accomplishing anything. I still think that hate crime legislation is BS, for reasons not exclusively realted to gays and not for running around hurting people. That would be a relatively low priority for me right now. I'm far more concerned about making laws related to self defense more conservative right now anyway.

All the stuff I described happened in middle school. I was just a fairly typical loner in high school.

tom #homophobia #wingnut yahoo.com

Better named the 'Homosexual Classrooms Act,' its chief advocate in Congress is Rep. Jared Polis, himself an open homosexual and radical activist.

That's why I need you to act quickly -- right away -- to protect our nation's youth.

I have prepared the official 'Protect Our Children's Innocence' Petition to Congress for you to sign.

You and I must defeat this disastrous legislation.

You see, the Homosexual Classrooms Act contains a laundry list of anti-family provisions that will:

*Require schools to teach appalling homosexual acts so 'homosexual students' don't feel 'singled out' during already explicit sex-ed classes;

*Spin impressionable students in a whirlwind of sexual confusion and misinformation, even peer pressure to 'experiment' with the homosexual 'lifestyle;'

*Exempt homosexual students from punishment for propositioning, harassing, or even 'sexually assaulting their classmates', as part of their specially-protected right to 'freedom of self-expression;'

*Force private and even religious schools to teach a pro-homosexual curriculum and purge any reference to religion if a student claims it creates a 'hostile learning environment' for homosexual students.

And that's just the beginning of the Homosexual Lobby's radical agenda.

SjPhotoGrapher #homophobia teamliquid.net

on a professional athlete coming out as gay

Who cares about what his sexual orientation is or anyone's for that manner.....you don't hear other sports players saying "O'm straight".......this is more of a publicity stunt as now more people will know hos name.
Nonetheless I could care less whether hes gay or not or anyone for that manner keep it to yourself its personal. I don't hear people running around talking about how they like dick or pussy.


[[I actually hear about it all the time. Maybe no one says "I like dick/pussy/both. I mean I REALLY like dick/pussy/both. Did I ever tell you how much I like dick/pussy/both?" but people certainly do (and certainly should be able to) say "Wow - check out the hottie at the bar." Step out of the equation and think about it for a second.That's fine if you come from an area where white people were historically oppressed (where is this again?) but obfuscating the point isn't a defense of your argument. Historically - homosexuality has been maligned the world over - but no one has ever significantly oppressed heterosexuality. As a heterosexual individual you have NEVER been afraid for your personal physical or emotional well-being due to your sexuality. It's not the same with any other orientation. Saying "We should just ignore it because it doesn't matter" is not an option for those people - because, unfortunately for them, it DOES matter, not only because there are still assholes in the world who claim homosexuals are the antichrist or whatever, but also because they should be able to go to the bar and say "DAMN, look at that sexy manmuffin" without anyone saying "Ew, nobody asked about that keep it to yourself."]]


Whites were slaves during the times the egpytians were around and also during other time periods. The Jew's had it really, really bad as well as everyone knows.Whites have it just as hard as black people it's just that there tends to be more black/hispanic people in low income areas and their children end up not being brought up properly and end up relying on welfare for their income. I actually know a black guy that gets welfare & section 8 and gets paid to live for free, does not have to work, plays games all day and has a child.I have also witnessed white people filling out job applications checking off that they are hispanic when they told me that they're white and just lying about being hispanic so that they can get the job which actually works as some company's such as McD are paid to hire blacks/hispanics so that they get off welfare AND a lot of these places are ran by people that are prejudice.So go try living in the ghetto and tell me that the white are not oppressed in certain places.
I'm far from racist/prejudice but anyone claiming that blacks have it "hard" grew up with rich or well off parents as it's a load of bull.If someone says that they like dick or pussy who cares? It's all private talk I've yet to have a complete stranger walk up to me and tell me they like ass/tits/dick/ or anything as it's all private.Also, most men would take offense to a gay man calling them hot and men have killed themselves over the fact that a man had a crush on them and told a bunch of people.It would be like if a women went to a bar and she found out that another women was checking her out....the bottom line is that it's straight up offensive and sexual preference should be kept to yourself.

I know that for me if a guy liked me I would be offended.If I was on the same basketball team as this player I would be offended as well when playing if I see him checking me out or anything whereas if he just kept his mouth shut it wouldn't bother me.
As for your last quote it's irrelevant to what I was/am saying and there are mistakes in evolutioon that could make something "gay" just like how some women have facial hair or a mans body parts or are born with 2 heads.
I also don't believe in the notion of "natural" as everything can be labeled as natural as everything came/comes from the universe.I also don't believe in the notion of death, there's only a changing of conditions.


[[Just because you think such topics ought to be relegated to the private sphere does not mean that society acts in such a way; it is a simple fact that male expressions of sexual attraction towards women are the only explicitly tolerated public displays of this kind, and this is inherently discriminatory. ]]


It does not manner if a guy found out another guy liked him most men would punch that man in the face. It's offensive/disgusting and plain right embarrassing if you're straight and find out that another man likes you..
Nobody gives a crap if someone is gay or straight I say keep it to yourself. Telling another man that you like them could get that man person killed or the other man might kill himself. Gays are an extreme minority.

I can tell you now that if a man hit on me and hit on me he would get punched in the face.If you find out that a women likes you it changes everything as that is the norm and it will continue to stay that way.This is why sexual preference is for the most part kept private despite what you may say.

You're right I don't like labeling or labels but you are wrong on the point that everyone automatically assumes that you're straight. I can point out a person that is gay right away by the way they talk (their voice is a dead give away). I understand that some gays are more masculine but their are groups to meet other gays online and "hook up".

yoyo462001 #homophobia #fundie thestudentroom.co.uk

[ on which is worse homophobia or racism]

well race isnt a choice however i believe Homosexuality is so imo racism is worst.

[Why do you believe that homosexuality is a choice?

Secondly, do you also think discriminating against Asian people because of their race is worse than persecuting e.g. Christians? ]

Being a christian i dont i believe that were not born with the inclination to be attracted to the same sex. i would class persecutions of Christians on the same level of racism but not homophobia because i i believe its wrong, being prejudice against something i believe is wrong could never be on the level of racism of persecution.

ticktockclock #homophobia thestudentroom.co.uk

Seriously guys its not a good idea to be openly gay in the street. Im not homophobic but i do not encourage or support homosexuality, if i saw a gay couple on the street i would probably have a go at them(nothing violent) because they are not thinking about the children. Kissing the same sex or holding hands with the same sex in public just gives children the wrong idea, they are young and you dont need to take away their innocence.


[:confused: So you'd have a go at a hetro couple holding hands because of 'the children' too. ?
Also, what are you protecting them from? The truth? ]


Tbh, i have my views and opinions about homosexuality, i believe that homosexuality is a choice; nothing in nature or religion suggests that same sex relationships are meant to be. I feel that its more to do with society, enviroment and upbringing and exposing children to homosexuality makes them choose something that is not meant to be. Having said that i do not have problems with gay people, they can do whatever they like as long as it doesnt bother me but if they kissed in public it would bother me because of the children.

[So you think children should be sheltered from the fact that gay people exist? Nice one. This would never make them prejudiced later in life, would it... ]

If they were exposed they would think its ok which to me its not. but hey thats just my opinion.

Btw, im not like most of these hypocrite homosexual bashers who dont think male relationships are cool but get turned on by female relationships. i completely disapprove of all homosexual relationships whether it be male or female.

Mat Staver #fundie #homophobia rightwingwatch.org

Mat Staver: Gays Are Imposing A 'Jizya' Tax On Christians In America
On a recent "Freedom's Call" radio commentary, Liberty Counsel's Mat Staver declared that gays are now imposing a "jizya" tax on Christians in America.
Staver, the anti-gay legal activist representing Kentucky clerk Kim Davis, said that gays have borrowed the concept of the jizya, a discriminatory tax imposed on non-Muslims under Islamic law, and are now subjecting Christians in America to such taxes.
"Deep in the Islamic tradition is jizya, a tax which forces non-Muslims to pay an exorbitant fee for living within a Muslim state," Staver said. "Now, from farmers in New York to those offering wedding cakes, photography and other services, all have been fined thousands, and sometimes more than a hundred thousand dollars for having and acting on a religious belief that is different from homosexuals who demand their services. These fees and fine are in essence a tax on Christians who are living out their faith and beliefs in the businesses that they labored for and have built. In America, we should not fear paying a tax or fee to Muslims, nor to homosexuals, just because our faith is different from theirs."

I'm Always Right #fundie #homophobia onehallyu.com

What's Worse; Homophobes or Racists?

I believe some people have legit reasons to be against Homosexuality, but I believe racists have no damn right to discriminate someone based on the colour of their skin.

What do you all think?


[Both are scumbags. If you pick one over the other, I really wonder about your reasons (though I might have a hunch).]


I pick one over the other because racists are in another league of cruel.

[You obviously have no experience with homophobia.]

Still a lot more justifiable than racism.

[why?]


Homosexuality is a sin; there are still a lot of religious people on this forsaken planet who are against people going against the natural course of things.
Hating someone for their race is a lot worse and more personal I believe, a gay guy can easily hide their sexual partner but a person can't hide their race. We don't chose which race we are born into. You gays chose to love another man.
There isn't even competition here.

Franklin Graham #fundie #homophobia pinknews.co.uk

The head of a Christian charity appears to have declared war on gay people – claiming they are “the enemy” and should be thrown out of churches.

Pastor Franklin Graham, the head of global Christian charity Samaritan’s Purse, made the comments in a radio Q&A with Focus on the Family.

The pastor, whose charity runs the annual shoebox appeal, claimed: “We have allowed the enemy to come into our churches.

“I was talking to some Christians and they were talking about how they invited these gay children to come into their home and to come into the church and that they were wanting to influence them.

“And I thought to myself, they’re not going to influence those kids, those kids are going to influence those parents’ children.

“What happens is we think we can fight by smiling and being real nice and loving— we have to understand who the enemy is and what he wants.

“He wants to devour our homes. He wants to devour this nation.”

He continued: “We have to be so careful who we let our kids hang out with.

“We have to be so careful who we let into the churches. You have immoral people that get into the churches and it begins to affect the others in the church and it is dangerous.”

“I’m going to encourage the Church to take a stand for Christ. Homosexuality has been allowed into our schools – that’s why I want to get the school boards back.

“Homosexuality is taught to be OK in our universities, and you have all these diversity classes and all these nice names that they come up with promoting and pushing homosexuality.”

He added: “You cannot stay gay and continue to call yourself a Christian. You can’t do it.

“We have allowed sin to come into our churches, and we need to repent of our sins.”

Graham has recently praised Vladimir Putin’s support anti-gay laws, and claimed that homosexuals “take people’s children”.

He told a Russian newspaper: “I very much appreciate that President Putin is protecting Russian young people against homosexual propaganda. If only to give them the opportunity to grow up and make a decision for themselves.”

Repeating disturbing rhetoric used by anti-LGBT activists in Russia, he said: “Homosexuals cannot have children, they can take other people’s children.”

Ann Barnhardt #fundie #kinkshaming #homophobia barnhardt.biz

The cause of homosexuality, and all aberrosexuality is DIABOLICAL NARCISSISM.

The further one descends into Diabolical Narcissism, the freakier and freakier the aberrosexuality becomes. Think Charlie Sheen. Think Miley Cyrus and Linsey Lohan. Think all musloid cultures – musloids openly screw blood relatives, children and infants, animals and dead bodies, and islam ratifies this.

Celibacy and chastity have nothing to do with it and are red herrings. Don’t fall for it for a second. There is NOTHING harmful or risky about a psycho-spiritually normal person, fully and normally capable of love and thus BY DEFINITION heterosexual, directing the energy of their sexuality toward a life espoused and in service to Christ and His Holy Church.

Taking a vow of celibacy does not make a man or woman “asexual”. ASEXUALITY IS HIGHLY DISORDERED, AND A RED FLAG SIGNAL OF CEREBRAL DIABOLIC NARCISSISM. Asexuality, or CLAIMS of asexuality – which are frequently a cover for homosexuality – should be a DISQUALIFIER for the priesthood and holy orders.

The one and only normal “sexual orientation” is HETEROSEXUALITY. Period. Everything else is diabolical. There is no such thing as a “benign” homosexuality, asexuality or aberrosexuality of any stripe. ALL are derivatives of Diabolical Narcissism, and thus extremely dangerous to souls, not only of the individual, but also to the people the Diabolical Narcissist comes in contact with.

Axle The Beast #homophobia zeldadungeon.net

[My question is simple: Why on EARTH is homosexuality even controversial? At all?]

-Why WAS it controversial? Because people used to be intolerant and hugely violent monsters who would punish things they couldn't understand.
-Why does it continue to be controversial? Because some people still don't understand or agree with it, gay people and gay proponents don't like that and remember how horrible this used to be in the past, and neither side can see things from the other's perspective.

And no, I'm not implying there aren't still people who will do horribly mean or even violent things to homosexuals, like ostracize or beat them. But that is a medieval and cruel way of acting -- I'm not sure if I've ever met someone personally who didn't think it was cruel an inappropriate -- but it doesn't change the fact that in some case homosexual proponents will respond to criticism or even just plain old disagreement with them by treating the person like they're one of these monsters. That's projection, and as someone who has multiple homosexual friends and is pretty damn respectful of their way of life despite disagreeing with it, I don't much care to be lumped in with that sort.

Homophobe is used as a slur in a number of conversations I've been in, so I don't care to be identified by it. Most use of the term indicates fear or hatred of homosexuals, not just plain disagreement. Some uses do just mean disagreement, but considering that it has two distinct uses you might be cautious about using the word without clarifying your intended use, or else you will offend people who simply disagree with homosexuality because they can easily interpret it as you accusing them of hatred, fear, and the like. Bottom line is I don't care if people don't like it that I don't agree with their lifestyle; I don't agree with it, but I'm perfectly pleasant with every homosexual and bisexual I know. I don't see why I don't deserve the same respect they deserve for... having my own thoughts and way of life... without hurting anyone. I don't particularly think it's cool to call someone a name for that, and I do frankly liken it to using homosexual slurs; I don't see why we have to call people names when they're being plenty pleasant with people. Calling the monstrous people who do try to hurt homosexuals is a-okay by me, but I think it's a little silly to invent a new slur for it. Why not just call them what they are? Hateful jerks and/or monsters.

Anyway, enough of that. Back to the topic question...

What is my problem with homosexuality? It's not something that makes sense to me. I don't mean that I'm just like "but, wuh-wuh-why would someone like the same sex, durrr", I mean that it functionally doesn't have any place that I can see. The more common phrasing you'll hear people say is something like "I don't believe homosexuality is natural", and then that gets quickly rebutted by citations of examples of homosexuality in nature among animals. Yes, some animals -- not all -- engage in homosexual relations. That doesn't do anything to change the fact that it doesn't make sense to me. Animals doing it is NOT a good argument in favor of homosexuality since animals engage in certain other practices humans generally universally consider taboo: Cannibalism, necrophilia, murder, rape, torture, etc., and not all of these are even out of necessity; dolphins murder and rape the corpses of porpoises for fun. Throwing aside the animal example entirely and going with things like "it feels good so how can it be wrong", absolutely everything that "feels good" can kill you in excess, and other things that feel good can damage you outright like a number of drugs. Impulse and desire are not universal tools for determining right and wrong; this cannot be argued. Like anyone, I have angry and destructive impulses that I have to control to be a decent person.

So since I cannot see a reason for homosexuality to exist -- the distinctive traits between the genders pretty visibly only exist for the sake of breeding and I don't really see the point of sexual love unless it's driven by the breeding impulse (not saying you can only have sex to have kids either; don't misunderstand me) -- I find it unnatural, and therefore I disagree with it. To be clear: I don't think it's immoral or hurtful, I think it just plain doesn't make sense, I don't like to see people do things to themselves that I feel are illogical. Sure, plenty of people argue that they were born that way, but I have my doubts, and either way that can also be argued against in the same way animal behavior can; not every pre-existing psychological state people are born with is a good thing either. I'll say this: Human beings are exceptional at deluding themselves; it's seen best in the general human disdain for being wrong. I can't know for sure if that's the case with homosexuals -- I'm not one -- but I wouldn't write it off, at least in some cases. It's also because of this that I worry about overarching appreciation -- not acceptance, but an almost eagerness that I see from time to time -- towards homosexuality, because I've seen cases of people who I believe more or less deluded themselves into acting as homosexuals. Cases where they had a string of bad relationships, declared they hated the opposite sex, and then sought same-sex relationships as some kind of solution to this, which is an absolutely poisonous reason. Maybe this was a case of "the right thing in the wrong way" for some of them and they really were born homosexual, but I really don't believe it was the case for all of them.

That does not mean people shouldn't do what they feel is right; if someone's thought something through and decided the way they're going to be -- where that's a decision of how to act moving forward or a decision to embrace certain pre-existing impulses they already had, it doesn't matter -- then they should embrace it, live by it fully, and do it in the face of anyone who thinks they shouldn't. I'm free to question their decisions the same as they're free to question mine, but in the end I respect that they made their decision and decided who they're going to be, and it's their decision, not mine. I just can't justify it -- that's probably why I'm not gay or bi. :P

Finally to end off on the point of just letting people love... well, I think I've made it plenty clear that I do let people love, and advocate that others do as well. :bleh: As for how it affects my personal view of homosexuality, I still factor it into how I don't see why. Again, I see sexual relations as something evolved as an incentive to breed -- whether or not it's used for that exclusively -- so I don't really understand why someone would express their love sexually for the same sex. I "love" both males and females in my life, but the only ones I have sexual (or, romantic, if you prefer; they're the same thing) feelings for are some of the females... and I don't see how anything else makes sense. *shrug*

[I'm happy to see that you are reasonable and let people love. I just don't understand why people think sex has to involve reproduction anymore, we aren't going to go extinct due to lack of population anytime soon. I guess that they naturally feel the same way about the same sex and you and I feel about the opposite. We don't need to disagree with things just because we don't understand.

Why should a homosexual have to abstain from marriage and sex? Sure, maybe not everything that feels natural is "right", please respond relevantly and specifically for why homosexuality is wrong?]


I disagree with anything that is unnatural, significant and important, and that is either harmful to others (which homosexuality isn't) or harmful to oneself; I do feel homosexually is somewhat self-harmful, and the reason for that is because I don't think it logically makes sense -- I consider it a strange fallacy -- and therefore I think people who engage in it are deluding themselves with that fallacy. The fallacy is this: Sexual relations exist for reproduction, therefore two individuals who have can't and would never be able to reproduce have zero reason to get involved sexually in the first place.

And I said I don't think sex has to involve reproduction. I guess that's confusing so I'll explain: Sex only existed in the first place for reproduction; I don't think there's any disagreement on that. Every animal has their mating habits, from penguins who leave their partners after a year, to wolf packs who usually stay together in a big family all their life. As near as I can see, on a primal level human mating habits are to form families around their sexual relations and form links that way. This started for reproduction, but of course it has other facets and it's obvious that not every heterosexual marriage leads to kids or can even have kids considering things like sterility, but that doesn't mean the relationship doesn't have merit; people still engage in every other facet of the relation because humans are built to connect that way. I don't believe people are purely primal -- we're well beyond that -- so of course people can make their own decisions about how to live, but this is why I see homosexual relations as a fallacy. Yes people hook up and marry for reasons other than reproduction -- because we're hardwired to -- but that doesn't mean that the reproductive urge wasn't a part of why we do it in the first place. Not following the reproductive urge to its eventual purpose? I get it. Having sexual relations with people you can't reproduce with in the first place? It doesn't make sense as a concept.

Since I know you'll ask me what is wrong with homosexuals not following that urge through completely either, I'll simply say: Because there's no reason for them to have the urge towards one another in the first place.

The reason I think homosexuals or people who identify as homosexual in part or in full should resist their urges is because I think indulging in them is the same as indulging in a fallacy, and I never think that's the best thing for someone to do.

Larry Tomczak #fundie #homophobia rightwingwatch.org

Recently, right-wing commentator Larry Tomczak unveiled something he is calling the "30 Day Bullseye Challenge," which consists of 30 short videos outlining the proper Christian worldview on everything from abortion and capital punishment to masturbation and sexting.

Several of the videos, unsurprisingly, address topics related to the issue of homosexuality, which Tomczak explained inevitably leads to disease and misery.

"With all the hoopla about this one and that one, hey, they're coming out and it being a time to celebrate gay marriage and gay lifestyles as normal, natural, beautiful," he said, "people need to awaken ... to the reality that this so-called love story doesn't have a happy ending."

While rattling off a list of statistics about the supposed dangers of gay sex, Tomczak warned that "although heterosexuals outnumber homosexuals by a ratio of at least 20 to 1, homosexual pedophiles commit about one-third of the total number of child sex offenses."

"Depending on the source, homosexual men have an average lifetime number of sexual partners falling anywhere between — listen to this — 250 to 500," he continued. "Engaging in sodomy with the sewage system of another's anatomy is contrary to God's design and it will bring inevitable consequences."

JBrentonK #fundie #homophobia #dunning-kruger atheistforums.org

Atheism. Atheism is not a religion. It is most remote from being a part of this great section. As we know, all atheists are in denial of the simple epistemologicial reality of the "theists". At best, atheism is pure closet homosexuality in public, where the disfigured, disgruntled completely irrational minded man says in front of everybody's face for no apparent reason, completely irrational statements, disguised on purpose which is what's worse. How do we expect a world of rationality and clear thought, to widen our horizons one day, when the level of rationality we see before us is as putrid as an example of this particular type of atheist? How can an atheist even claim his position is religious, or "one of religion", when it completely ignores this significant title by being nothing but a position of hatred? The answer is that it is not a religion, nor has ever been a religion. And the world better wisen up if it expects to one day have categories of religion taken seriously.

So I am furious that atheists believe they can be public homosexuals, physically and irrationally disfigured, christian hating "free souls", with no care to the consequences. But that nevertheless is not the point of my thread. I am furious at YOU, the atheist reader, and his public obvious stupiditys and personal hatreds. Furious with the many instances of atheist "morality" and hundreds of millenia worth of credit towards atheists/atheism. This is the essense of stupidity people, you will not be warned again.

By the by, this IS the reason this is in the religion subforum, I hope you all had a very lovely read, please feel free to reply in kind, I've waited about a month before returning to this low, debased forum for posting my thread about this topic. A topic about religiousness. Please feel free to "express" your religion. :angel:

EtherealMeekle #homophobia captaincynic.com

Even if they are born as gays (I have yet to see any concrete evidence of this) research shows that a homosexual can change orientation as many as eight times during their life and it is true that some heterosexuals have orientation changes as well.
So then homosexuality is simply a lifestyle choice and it is one that will cause severe social problems in the near future.
Toleration is a joke. If you think everyone should be tolerated equally then you go to the prisons and free everyone because people in jail are being discriminated against and that is a hate crime.

Homosexuality defies institution of marriage. This creates the perfect environment to raise a suicidal, abused, or neglected child. This results in a higher rate of crime amongst minors and will create vicious adult criminals. Marriage is the underlying fabric of society and without it we will end up in perpetual civil war.
It is true that the family system is failing but is that a reason to add to its demise?

My point is that we all have to make judgements or else our society will die. You admit to judging when children are involved, does that make you homophobic if an adult gay has a sexual relation with a minor? The problem we face is that homosexuality is a gateway to other more disturbing sexual relations. You judge one because you think it is worse. I judge both because one leads to the other. I am not homophobic I work with a few gay people (really nice guys) one of my best friends in high school was gay. The issue does not lie with the individual but the lifestyle.

What people don’t consider is that the acceptance of same sex marriage actually stops heterosexuals from marrying; this causes children to grow up in a more unstable environment. Marriage has already been a crumbling idea but now it is just been made a complete joke http://www.mensnewsdaily.com/archive/p/purcell/2005/purcell081105.htm
Two straight men are going to get married so that they can get some tax breaks and other benefits tied into marriage. And get this “News of the pending engagement didn’t sit well with same-sex marriage activist Bruce Walker, a Toronto lawyer. He complained that marriage should be for love.” Is Bruce upset that straight men benefit from his fight?

all that a group need to do is convince people that they are being discriminated against. If suddenly there is a threat of committing a hate crime people will openly accept that which they disagree with otherwise they risk being intolerant. If pedophiles can ‘prove’ they are born that way then they have as much legal standing as gays do.

[i bet ethereal is homophobic too.... ]

ou just lost yourself a bet. See this is the kind of logic that perpetuates hate. Some gays choose to make themselves martyrs in an attempt to justify their acts. It’s just a blame game. I am entitled to all the opinions I want and if you don’t like it then maybe you are intolerant

[they had the courage to stand up to their most likely homophobic parents and say “i’m gay”. that’s more than the people who discriminate against them can say.]

Not true the people who discriminate against them stand up to the majority and get labelled intolerant. And being intolerant is a much worse label to live with.

I struggled with sexual identity for a few years. I was often considered gay by those who didn’t know me and I believed that I was really a woman in a man’s body. This was likely a result of gender roles that have been arbitrarily exaggerated and thus causing this confusion. I consciously choose to be straight because it made the most sense to me and I have been perfectly happy with that decision.

Being genetic does not make sense, being a chemical imbalance in the brain does make sense but then that would make being gay a medical condition.

SlaveMaster Productions #fundie #homophobia wckkkk.org

The White Camelia Knights of the Ku Klux Klan has a very clear and simple understanding on the subject of homosexuality. Homosexuality is a perversion of nature and a filthy, diseased and perverted lifestyle. Homosexuals cannot reproduce, so it is only logical that they recruit others into their perverted lifestyle. One of the ways in which they do this is in shopping malls and other public gathering locations. Police officers will tell you that homosexual predators will hang out in shopping malls and similar type locations looking for young teenagers that are in a partying mood and supply the finances for the party to get close to the youth. They hang around youth centers and music concerts and one of the newest and sickest ways of recruiting is now through adoption. When two men or two women adopt a child it only stands to reason that the child will be raised as a homosexual or lesbian. Homosexuals will deny these alegations of perverted recruitment but they have been proven to be true time and time again. This perverted practice of adoption is all to clear, common sense tells us that when a man or woman raises a child, they raise that child to the standard both moral and sexual that their lifestyle mirrors.

Homosexuals are the predominant carriers of the AIDS virus with 90% of all AIDS cases coming through homosexuality and or IV drug use. What no one tells the American people is that this is a self imposed sickness, if homosexuals would stop their perverted lifestyle and drug use we would not have the problem we have today with AIDS and other venereal diseases.

Pro-homosexual government officials in Washington, D.C. are not going to tell the American people the truth, in fact according to a resent study by the congressional research service, reveals that AIDS was only the 9th most common killer of American's in 1991. However, AIDS has received more research funding than the foremost common killers such as cancer and heart disease. It's obvious as to where the government's priorities are and with whom.

The Klan's belief on homosexuality is not homophobic, but like all subjects, it's based on our biblical beliefs. So what does the bible teach us about these perverted lifestyles. In Leviticus 18:22 we read "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind it is abomination." Also in Leviticus 20:13 "If a man also lie with mankind as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination, they shall surely be put to death, their blood shall be upon them." In Deuteronomy 23:17 we read "There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel.".

Theodore Shoebat #fundie #psycho #homophobia rightwingwatch.org

Theodore Shoebat, who was among the dozens of anti-gay activists, Republican members of Congress and GOP presidential hopefuls to be featured in Janet Porter's recent anti-gay "Light Wins" documentary, posted a new video over the weekend calling for a global "Inquisition" to eradicate homosexuality once and for all.

Outraged over reports that a doctor had been let go by Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center for repeatedly spreading anti-gay material to colleagues, Shoebat posted a video declaring that "sodomite homo Sharia" was being imposed on America by "sodomite bastards" and "faggots" who do nothing but "go around spreading AIDS."

The only solution, he declared, is the imposition of a global law criminalizing homosexuality that will be enforced by a modern-day Inquisition with the power to put gays to death.

"I'm sick and tired of the homo tyranny," he said. "What the world needs is a collective law ... What we need is the laws of God, the virtues of Heaven to become the law of the world. That is the bottom line. Do I believe in Christian world domination? Absolutely. I would be a liar if I said I didn't. Do I believe in Christian supremacy? Absolutely. Do I believe in democracy? Hell no. Do I believe in some sort of democratic socialist republic? Hell no. I believe in monarchy, I believe in Inquisitions, I believe we need to revive the system of the Middle Ages that we had; we had no fag problems, we didn't have a lot of serial killers back in those days, we didn't have frickin drug cartel problems, we had none of the crap. We didn't have no fags asking to be married. None of that garbage."

"It's homo tyranny and it needs to be destroyed," Shoebat continued, "Christian world domination needs to be established and homosexuality needs to be deemed as a crime. And the homos need to be told, hey, you gotta stop that and if they don't stop that then, I'm sorry, we have an Inquisition and that Inquisition will enact the death penalty, as Scripture tells us."

Lordareon #fundie #homophobia forum.nationstates.net

10 Reasons Why Homosexual “Marriage” is Harmful and not compatible with Christianity.

1. It Is Not Marriage

Calling something marriage does not make it marriage. Marriage has always been a covenant between a man and a woman which is by its nature ordered toward the procreation and education of children and the unity and wellbeing of the spouses.

The promoters of same-sex “marriage” propose something entirely different. They propose the union between two men or two women. This denies the self-evident biological, physiological, and psychological differences between men and women which find their complementarity in marriage. It also denies the specific primary purpose of marriage: the perpetuation of the human race and the raising of children.

Two entirely different things cannot be considered the same thing.

2. It Violates Natural Law

Marriage is not just any relationship between human beings. It is a relationship rooted in human nature and thus governed by natural law.

Natural law’s most elementary precept is that “good is to be done and pursued, and evil is to be avoided.” By his natural reason, man can perceive what is morally good or bad for him. Thus, he can know the end or purpose of each of his acts and how it is morally wrong to transform the means that help him accomplish an act into the act’s purpose.

Any situation which institutionalizes the circumvention of the purpose of the sexual act violates natural law and the objective norm of morality.

Being rooted in human nature, natural law is universal and immutable. It applies to the entire human race, equally. It commands and forbids consistently, everywhere and always. Saint Paul taught in the Epistle to the Romans that the natural law is inscribed on the heart of every man. (Rom. 2:14-15)

3. It Always Denies a Child Either a Father or a Mother

It is in the child’s best interests that he be raised under the influence of his natural father and mother. This rule is confirmed by the evident difficulties faced by the many children who are orphans or are raised by a single parent, a relative, or a foster parent.

The unfortunate situation of these children will be the norm for all children of a same-sex “marriage.” A child of a same-sex “marriage” will always be deprived of either his natural mother or father. He will necessarily be raised by one party who has no blood relationship with him. He will always be deprived of either a mother or a father role model.

Same-sex “marriage” ignores a child’s best interests.

4. It Validates and Promotes the Homosexual Lifestyle

In the name of the “family,” same-sex “marriage” serves to validate not only such unions but the whole homosexual lifestyle in all its bisexual and transgender variants.

Civil laws are structuring principles of man's life in society. As such, they play a very important and sometimes decisive role in influencing patterns of thought and behavior. They externally shape the life of society, but also profoundly modify everyone’s perception and evaluation of forms of behavior.

Legal recognition of same-sex “marriage” would necessarily obscure certain basic moral values, devalue traditional marriage, and weaken public morality.

5. It Turns a Moral Wrong into a Civil Right

Homosexual activists argue that same-sex “marriage” is a civil rights issue similar to the struggle for racial equality in the 1960s.

This is false.

First of all, sexual behavior and race are essentially different realities. A man and a woman wanting to marry may be different in their characteristics: one may be black, the other white; one rich, the other poor; or one tall, the other short. None of these differences are insurmountable obstacles to marriage. The two individuals are still man and woman, and thus the requirements of nature are respected.

Same-sex “marriage” opposes nature. Two individuals of the same sex, regardless of their race, wealth, stature, erudition or fame, will never be able to marry because of an insurmountable biological impossibility.

Secondly, inherited and unchangeable racial traits cannot be compared with non-genetic and changeable behavior. There is simply no analogy between the interracial marriage of a man and a woman and the “marriage” between two individuals of the same sex.

6. It Does Not Create a Family but a Naturally Sterile Union

Traditional marriage is usually so fecund that those who would frustrate its end must do violence to nature to prevent the birth of children by using contraception. It naturally tends to create families.

On the contrary, same-sex “marriage” is intrinsically sterile. If the “spouses” want a child, they must circumvent nature by costly and artificial means or employ surrogates. The natural tendency of such a union is not to create families.
Therefore, we cannot call a same-sex union marriage and give it the benefits of true marriage.

7. It Defeats the State’s Purpose of Benefiting Marriage

One of the main reasons why the State bestows numerous benefits on marriage is that by its very nature and design, marriage provides the normal conditions for a stable, affectionate, and moral atmosphere that is beneficial to the upbringing of children—all fruit of the mutual affection of the parents. This aids in perpetuating the nation and strengthening society, an evident interest of the State.

Homosexual “marriage” does not provide such conditions. Its primary purpose, objectively speaking, is the personal gratification of two individuals whose union is sterile by nature. It is not entitled, therefore, to the protection the State extends to true marriage.

8. It Imposes Its Acceptance on All Society

By legalizing same-sex “marriage,” the State becomes its official and active promoter. The State calls on public officials to officiate at the new civil ceremony, orders public schools to teach its acceptability to children, and punishes any state employee who expresses disapproval.

In the private sphere, objecting parents will see their children exposed more than ever to this new “morality,” businesses offering wedding services will be forced to provide them for same-sex unions, and rental property owners will have to agree to accept same-sex couples as tenants.

In every situation where marriage affects society, the State will expect Christians and all people of good will to betray their consciences by condoning, through silence or act, an attack on the natural order and Christian morality.

9. It Is the Cutting Edge of the Sexual Revolution

In the 1960s, society was pressured to accept all kinds of immoral sexual relationships between men and women. Today we are seeing a new sexual revolution where society is being asked to accept sodomy and same-sex “marriage.”

If homosexual “marriage” is universally accepted as the present step in sexual “freedom,” what logical arguments can be used to stop the next steps of incest, pedophilia, bestiality, and other forms of unnatural behavior? Indeed, radical elements of certain “avant garde” subcultures are already advocating such aberrations.

The railroading of same-sex “marriage” on the American people makes increasingly clear what homosexual activist Paul Varnell wrote in the Chicago Free Press:

"The gay movement, whether we acknowledge it or not, is not a civil rights movement, not even a sexual liberation movement, but a moral revolution aimed at changing people's view of homosexuality."

10. It Offends God

This is the most important reason. Whenever one violates the natural moral order established by God, one sins and offends God. Same-sex “marriage” does just this. Accordingly, anyone who professes to love God must be opposed to it.

Marriage is not the creature of any State. Rather, it was established by God in Paradise for our first parents, Adam and Eve. As we read in the Book of Genesis: “God created man in His image; in the Divine image he created him; male and female He created them. God blessed them, saying: ‘Be fertile and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it.’” (Gen. 1:28-29)

The same was taught by Our Savior Jesus Christ: “From the beginning of the creation, God made them male and female. For this cause a man shall leave his father and mother; and shall cleave to his wife.” (Mark 10:6-7).

Genesis also teaches how God punished Sodom and Gomorrah for the sin of homosexuality: “The Lord rained down sulphurous fire upon Sodom and Gomorrah. He overthrew those cities and the whole Plain, together with the inhabitants of the cities and the produce of the soil.” (Gen. 19:24-25)

jawakiller #fundie #sexist #homophobia escapistmagazine.com

Because gays are scary dude... O.O

Haha. Thats prolly the truth. But seriously, I have gotten into fights with gays who think its cool to hit on me. Why? Because I have to prove I'm manly and not gay. I know I'm not into homosexual stuff but the ladies don't. And yes, its necessary.

I wish it wasn't like that but thats just how it is

[And... is it difficult living in Hickville and are your "manly man man" friends as insecure as well?Seriously, there's no other explanation but horrid, massive insecurity for that kind of behavior.]

Wow, that was really stupid sounding. No offensive, I'm sure you're a real nice guy but you didn't even read my comment. I said the only reason I fight gays (with the occasional exception, like when a gay's annoying as fuck) is because some women might get the idea that you're gay. So I'm not proving it to my friends, genius. Ladies are my reason. And here in hickville we would actually be over-joyed if all the homosexuals left. Then we'd go and ride our pick-up trucks and shoot some shotguns. Unfortunately I don't live in this legendary "hickville". And fighting is not always a sign of weakness. People like you are usually the ones I end up fighting.


[You know, I'm just one female out of many, but if I was around to see you get in a fight with a gay guy just because he was hitting on you, I wouldn't find it manly at all. I think it would be kind of dumb. And I wouldn't even be inclined to believe your display of "Look ladies, I'm not gay". Call me crazy, but you simply telling the guy "I'm not gay, so don't hit on me" would be much more convincing to me than a fist fight. Or is it just unreasonable to give people the benefit of the doubt anymore?]


Women like confident men (and those who don't usually turn lesbian or hook up with some wimp). Unfortunately, where I live, women are not like the mystical women on escapist. They're actually real. They are the ones I'm hanging out with so their opinion actually matters. Women like power, so when a homosexual male tries flirting (in a rather sexual way) with me they watch. If I mumble something about not being gay, they walk away. If I tell him (in a loud voice) I'm not a frickin fag (pardon the vulgar phrasing), the women see me as more of a man. Maybe that only happens in college, I really don't know.

But calling me gay is a really lame attack strategy. Just thought I'd say that before more people use the same "he hates gays, must be gay" line.

Oh and by the way, if you really wanna be more "tolerant", tolerate my homophobia. Chow kids!


[Social conservatism is a plague on society. Gotta love the people who say "tolerate my intolerance." There's absolutely no reason to tolerate a person's bigotry. Let's look at it like this:

Intolerance of gays: suppression of rights
Tolerance of gays: furthering of rights to the point of equalityMaybe we should start tolerating intolerance towards blacks or jews or maybe white males. They don't deserve equality either. Fuck it man. Let's go for it. Do you care? I don't care. And about women liking you because you just called a guy a "fricken fag" tells me that you're either in high school where petty shit like that is still funny or you hang out with Sarah Palin..]


A homosexual can't be compared to a Jew or a black guy. Homosexuality isn't a race. Yeah. And shut up with the leftist shit. You don't know much about it so just stop.

ginai doma #fundie #homophobia m.sodahead.com

Homosexuals have not been persecuted any more than any other group throughout history and less that some. Christians and Jews have faced and still do face more persecution than homosexuals ever will. 50,000 homosexuals were put into concentration camps in WWII. 6,000,000 Jews were killed in concentration camps. Today there are more Christians killed in one day than homosexuals killed in a year. Homosexuals in America already have all the same rights as every other American. The problem we have is when you try and force us to accept homosexuality as normal, when it clearly is a sinful, disgusting, and degrading act.

Discrimination based off of religion, race, or birth defect is intolerable. It is not discrimination if it is based off of a choice you make. No matter what your arguments are, you choose to be homosexual just as murderers, rapists, and anyone else who does evil chooses to do so. The persecution you face is not because of who you are, it is because what you do. The day you realize this is the day you might wake up and realize that you are not an asset to society because you are destroying it. Just think of it this way. If everyone was homosexual (not bisexual) how many generations would humanity last?


[When you imply a person's religion isn't a choice, that's definitely when I draw the line. You aren't born with a religion. It's a choice. In fact, there's MORE evidence that religion is a choice than homosexuality. There's no doubt religious beliefs are a choice. That literally can't be proven otherwise. Homosexuality on the other hand is still debatable. You can't logically claim that being Christian or Muslim is a choice. Beliefs ARE a choice. By your logic, discrimination against religion is fine . I disagree with discrimination of all forms, but if you wish to look stupid and act like a hypocrite, I'll treat you as such]

You can try and pick apart my argument all day. It does not change the fact that homosexuality is a perversion and is an abomination to God.

Gary Cass #fundie #homophobia #transphobia defendchristians.org

Top Ten Anti-Christian Acts of 2015

10) Obama makes a swipe at Christianity at National Prayer Breakfast In an effort to justify and minimize recent Islamic terrorism, President Obama tries to assert moral equivalency with Christianity by appealing to the Crusades.

9) Kelvin Cochran, the chief of Atlanta’s Fire Rescue Department, was sacked by Mayor Kasim Reed for giving Christian co-workers a religious book he wrote. Parts of the book contained passages condemning homosexuality. Cochran is suing the City of Atlanta for religious discrimination.

8) Christian Bakery Pays $135,000 for “Emotional Suffering” to Lesbian Couple Aaron and Melissa Klein, the Christian owners of a bakery in Oregon, “Sweet Cakes by Melissa,” was ordered to pay $135,000 in state-ordered damages for refusing to bake a wedding cake. The state swooped in and seized their accounts.

7) Christian Institutions Sued for not Hiring Homosexuals A Roman Catholic school in Massachusetts has been ordered by a Superior Court judge to hire homosexuals for non-teaching positions. Matthew Barrett was hired as the food service director at Fontbonne Academy which is sponsored by the Sisters of Saint Joseph of Boston. While filling out employment forms, Barrett listed a “husband” as his emergency contact. Because Barrett’s living in an open homosexual relationship violated the values held by the school, he was told he could not work there. Barrett sued the school, and Superior Court Justice Douglas Wilkins agreed he had been illegally discriminated against. Wilkins’ ruling stated that since Barrett’s job was a “non-teaching” position, the school’s religious values did not matter.

6) Christian Military Chaplains Bullied A military chaplain recruiter, Douglas Lee of Chaplain Alliance for Religious Liberty, recently told The Washington Times that growing hostility within the military to religious freedoms has made it harder to find chaplains willing to serve our brave servicemen, leaving them without the necessary and important spiritual guidance they need and deserve.

5) NYC Pastors threatened with $250K fine for “misgendering” transsexuals One of the fallouts of the whole abominable Bruce Jenner becomes “Caitlyn” gender bender sideshow is a draconian new law in NYC. If you call a transsexual person “he” or “she” when they preferred to be called “zhe” you could be fined $250,000 according to a newly updated anti-discrimination law in New York City. Pastors are not exempted, so they must either must shut up about biblical, hetero-normal sexual ethics or pay up.

4) Charleston and Oregon Mass Murders of Christians On June 17th in Charleston, SC a dissolute racist went into an historic Emmanuel AME Church and shot nine black Christians dead, including the pastor, Clementa C. Pinckney, in hopes of escalating a race war. On October 1st, another crazed gunman killed nine people and wounded up to nine others at quiet, Umpqua Community College in rural Oregon. The depraved shooter entered the classroom, murdered the teacher then asked the class about their religion. If they said they were Christians they were shot in the head.

3) Lawsuits against Pro-lifers for exposing Planned Parenthood The Center for Medical Progress (CMP) released a powerful series of videos from an undercover investigation that proved Planned Parenthood was illegally profiteering from the sale of baby body parts and cadavers. The videos shook the nation and have precipitated numerous Federal and state investigations. Renewed calls to defund Planned Parenthood are shaping the Presidential primary debates. Now David Daleiden of CMP and Troy Newman of Operation Rescue, who served on the CMP Board, are being sued under racketeering statutes and could face huge civil judgments and possible criminal prosecutions. Imagine if they had exposed illegal activity of a Christian organization, do you think any judge would require this go to trial?

2) Islamic Terrorists attack Christmas Party in California On December 2nd two Jihadi terrorists, a man who worked for the city and his wife, conducted a terrorist attack at his department Christmas Party. Fourteen people were killed, and twenty were seriously injured before the terrorists were killed by police. This came on the heels of a terrorist attack in Paris. This a sober reminder that, according to the FBI, there are Jihadist sleeper cells all over the US planning their attacks.

1) Homosexual Marriage vs. Religious Liberty & Kim Davis On June 26th, in a raw act of judicial tyranny, the US Supreme Court rendered an unconstitutional opinion that some believe makes homosexual marriage legal in all 50 states. The erroneous Obergefell decision led a Federal judge to make national news by throwing Kim Davis, a Kentucky County Clerk, in jail because she refused to issue same sex marriage licenses. DefendChristians.Org rallied with Governor Huckabee in support of Kim Davis and helped to secure her release. We are part of a movement to undo the unconstitutional Obergefell opinion. Some state legislatures are ready to begin nullification of the rogue opinion in early 2016.

Ralph Ovadal #homophobia #fundie pccmonroe.org

Hey, if he can do the job and pay the rent . . .
Almost no one would condone a law which would force landlords to rent to those who engage in bestiality or a statute which would require employers to hire drug addicts. In fact, it is considered to be good judgment to discriminate by refusing to employ or rent to such individuals, even though the acts in question are committed by consenting partners in private. Currently, society as a whole still realizes that such activity is immoral and unacceptable regardless of any other redeeming qualities the person in question may have. Persons engaged in all manner of immoral behavior in their spare time are often still able to perform satisfactorily on the job and may not directly hurt the persons living immediately around them. For instance, the infamous mass murderer and homosexual Jeffrey Dahmer held down a day job; and New York City's Son of Sam murderer was thought to be a "nice guy" by his neighbors until they found out what he did away from his neighborhood. Character does count, and persons who engage in sodomy and other perverted homosexual practices are obviously of very low moral character regardless of maintaining in public a veneer of niceness. Decent citizens should not be prohibited from exercising good judgment by refusing to hire, rent to, or associate with homosexuals.

But that's discrimination!
Of course it is! Almost everyone believes in and exercises some sort of discrimination. The legitimate question is, What behavior is proper to discriminate against? Homosexuals are sexual outlaws. When society's laws do not uphold that truth, the weak and the innocent suffer and even the most basic of liberties are put at risk.

Until 1982, Wisconsin's state statutes allowed citizens to practice good judgment when it came to dealing with individuals engaged in homosexual acts. Wisconsin is currently one of a handful of states which forbids discrimination against the perversion of homosexuality. Ask Ann Hacklander what happens to those who attempt to discriminate against homosexuality in the Badger State. As a college student living in Madison in the 1980s, Miss Hacklander refused to share her apartment with an open lesbian who answered her advertisement for a roommate. That exercise of good judgment cost Ann a fine, thousands of dollars in legal fees and court costs, as well as the humiliating experience of being ordered to undergo sensitivity training conducted by a homosexual rights group. Such are the results of state protection of the sexually perverted acts which every state in the Union held to be criminal until 1961.

For the past several decades, the homosexual movement has engaged in a massive public relations campaign aimed at demonizing anyone who dares to suggest that American citizens should have a right to discriminate--to use good judgment--when dealing with persons involved in homosexual activity. That campaign has borne bitter fruit. Open homosexuals, bisexuals, cross-dressers, and transgenders now serve as legislators, judges, policemen, medical technicians, food service workers, teachers, and adopters of children. This is a tragic situation given the fact that the homosexual community is the source of a greatly disproportionate amount of violence, sexual assault, and disease; and it brings the judgment of God upon our land.

A Shameless Exploitation of Real Victims
In their determination to mainstream their sexual deviancy, homosexual activists have no qualms about equating discrimination against homosexual activity to hate and violence directed against bona fide ethnic groups. This is a campaign in which truth, decency, and history are deemed irrelevant. For instance, in recent years, homosexual strategists have launched a well-constructed campaign to exploit the suffering of Hitler's holocaust victims by claiming that tens of thousands of homosexuals were exterminated in Nazi death camps. Well-heeled "gay" groups have lobbied vigorously and committed a vast amount of resources to securing a spot, literally buying a place, in holocaust museums around the nation in order to perpetuate the hoax of a "gay holocaust." The Union of Orthodox Rabbis of the U.S. and Canada has publicly protested these shameful, dishonest tactics, as has the Rabbinical Alliance of America.

While it is true that several thousand "fem" homosexuals may have died in labor camps (not death camps), just as did other criminals and political prisoners, "butch" homosexuals were at the very center of the Nazi power structure; in some cases they even served as concentration camp guards. One of the most notorious, Auschwitz executioner Ludwig Tiene, sodomized hundreds of boys and young men even as he strangled and gnawed them to death.

To this day, homosexual influence in the German neo-Nazi movement remains strong. Michael Kuhnen, a major German neo-Nazi leader who recently died of AIDS, was openly homosexual. The militant homosexual movement in America also has its roots in the Nazi Party. The National Socialist League is a homosexual branch of the American Nazi Party. The infamous American Nazi leader Frank Collin was a homosexual. The homosexual aspect of Hitler's Nazi Party has been documented by a number of historians, including the well-respected William Shirer in his famous volume The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich and Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams in their book The Pink Swastika: Homosexuality in the Nazi Party.

For homosexuals to exploit the suffering and death of millions of people in an attempt to shame the American people into accepting non-discrimination policies inclusive of gross sexual perversion is despicable.

The Choice: Good Judgment or Utter Destruction
No nation can long survive whose people do not have the moral fiber and good sense to support discrimination against and even criminal penalties for those who commit certain acts of violence and perversion. Civil law and societal pressure should both send a clear message to the homosexual movement: "Your perverted actions are unacceptable; thousands of former homosexuals are living proof that you can change your ways. If you insist on practicing sexual perversion, those acts will be seen as just cause for others to discriminate against you in employment, housing, and association! If you continue your destructive, immoral behavior, decent people will use good judgment when dealing with you." It is time Wisconsin rejoined the overwhelming majority of other states in the Union by removing "sexual orientation" from our non-discrimination statutes. History is clear - those nations who refuse to maintain a righteous moral standard are eventually destroyed. When it comes to the perversion of same-sex relations, the choice for Wisconsin and America is clear - once more use good judgment or suffer destruction!

Julia Gasper #conspiracy #homophobia pinknews.co.uk

A former UKIP chair has claimed that David Bowie was a gay member of the Nazi party who “dabbled” in the occult.

Julia Gasper was previously Chair of UKIP Oxford – and currently serves as a Parish Councillor for Risinghurst and Sandhills for the English Democrats Party.

The English Democrats have been in the news recently after candidate Winston McKenzie appeared on Celebrity Big Brother – and caused controversy with a claim that same-sex parenting is ‘child abuse’.

Dr Gasper, a staunch critic of the LGBT rights movement, hit out at late singer David Bowie in a tirade just a day after his death.

She claimed on her blog: “David Bowie was not the only famous queer Nazi, not by a long, long way.
“In fact there is a remarkable affinity between the two things. Many famous queers have been Nazis and vice versa.

“The Brixton skinhead Bowie is an example of something rather widespread and typical.”

She also raises Bowie’s lyrical references to mysticism, claiming he “dabbled in the occult” and referenced occultist Aleister Crowley.
Dr Gasper added: “Nazis in Germany had a similar fascination with occult, pagan and pseudo-mystic ideas that lent a veneer of intellectual respectability to their immoral doctrines.”

The politician last stood for the English Democrats in 2014’s European Elections, where the party managed to scrape just 0.76% of the vote in the region, winning just 17,771 votes.

She had previously called for PinkNews readers to be sectioned, called for Grindr to be banned, and claimed Daniel Radcliffe and a “queer mafia” were responsible for “victimising” former Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich into stepping down.

Dr Gasper also claimed that a “PinkNews mafia” caused the actor Rupert Everett to seek police protection. She wrote: “They [PinkNews] even bombard other homosexuals such as Rupert Everett with hate-mail and death-threats when he says anything against their agenda. He recently had to seek police protection because the PinkNews mafia had put him on its hit-list.”

Dr Gasper has also claimed that World AIDS Day “congratulates” people for “spreading this disease”, said she hoped “guilt” killed “queer gangsters” over same-sex marriage, and described PinkNews as a “vile rabid dog” of “homosexual bullies”.

The English Democrats leadership previously insisted that Gasper was “factually correct” to complain that there are too many gay MPs in Parliament.

David J. Stewart #homophobia #fundie jesus-is-savior.com

Homosexuals can't defend themselves within an intellectual argument, because it is so obvious and blatant that they are WRONG. So instead they spread misinformation and false allegations of ignorance and hatred. Since when is standing for morality hatred? Is it hatred to stand against racial discrimination? No, of course not! Is it hatred to stand against voter fraud? No, of course not! So why should homosexuals be allowed to hurt children and society? Teaching children that it's ok for two boys to fall in love, get married and have sex is harmful to them in every way. Homosexuality is a sick practice.

Homosexuality is dangerous. I heard a surgeon talk about a man whose gay lover shoved a dildo into his rectum and punctured his intestines. The doctor said it took them one month to remove all the fecal contamination from his intestines before they could even do the surgery to repair his damaged intestines. And those idiots at GLSEN are teaching teens how to FIST-SEX each other in public schools. Isn't that sad and tragic? These freaks are teaching this garbage to kids!!! Homosexuality is not normal. By very nature of the wicked practice of homosexuality requires the use of bizarre sex toys, implements, and weird sexual behavior. They are freaks, kooks and weirdoes. The state of Mississippi outlaws the sale of sex toys, because they still believe in good old-fashioned marriage. Once upon a time people used to be normal. Nowadays there's all sorts of enhancement drugs, implements, toys, breast implants, machines, et cetera.

A man in the Navy told me about a female Navy officer who was lonely without her husband. She ordered a plastic blow-up doll and the box broke open for several people to see. She was embarrassed to say the least. Now they've removed the prohibition for the military to have sex with animals in the NDAA bills that President Obama signed December 31, 2011. This world has gone insane!!!

Klitius Smooth #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

Christian extreminist... Being born black are two things people with low vocabulary say; when they think homosexuals are getting bashed. Black an Christians, you could have said any other race or group of people that follow homosexuality. Its goes to show bigots, hide their faces an can't wait to use Christians an blacks as their examples. You can't compare what blacks go through with homosexuals or Christian persecution with homosexuals. Hays run the world, so what are you talking about??? #Clown

Bob Unruh #fundie #homophobia #conspiracy wnd.com

Equality Act creates 'LGBT rights' everywhere!

"So the Supreme Court has established “same-sex marriage,” and that will quiet the LGBT crowd, because, after all, they got what they wanted, right? Not even close. How about protections for LGBT people in jobs, jury duty, credit applications, housing, facilities that provide exhibitions, facilities that provide recreation, facilities that provide exercise, facilities that provide amusement and even facilities that provide “gatherings”? Already, there’s a bill in Congress to do all those things and much more. It even would gut the 1993 federal Religious Freedom Restoration Act so LGBT-based discrimination complaints could be brought against churches that follow the Bible, which teaches homosexual behavior is a sin."

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The so called "Supreme" Court is nothing more than a political vehicle for the Roman Catholic church to push forth its long sought after agenda to control religion in the USA and the world. This reminds me of the strange Moabite leaders that worshipped Chemosh in Old Testament times. Deception runs amuck! The Pope and all those following his lead are very weak and no threat whatsoever to the obedient child of God. But they will be an annoyance in the coming days.

It wasn't always this way in the Supreme Court, but as soon as the Vatican was able to move their Vatican approved presidents to install Roman Catholic judges as well as Jewish judges under their thumb, of which are clearly biased against any and all Christian morals, the writing on the wall became that much more visible. And now that they have made homosexual marriage legal the flood gates are literally bursting at the seams just waiting for the chance to force the other shoe to drop so as to make society just as decadent and sinful as it was when the Vatican had control over it during the rightly names "dark ages." And no, I am not referring to the fall of Rome in the fifth century as most historians claim. I prefer to look at the time the Vatican began to "trample underfoot" the Word of God so as to keep the truth hidden as the true dark ages of mankind.

Soon every aspect of Catholicism from pedophilia to torture and Hitler to big Pharma will become the norm in every nation on earth that is in bed with the man of sin. But this s nothing to worry about obedient ones. As students of prophecy we have been declaring this day was coming for decades. As was also prophesied, this extreme end time societal fruitage was to gain the upper hand in an accelerated fashion. So yes, as many of us now realize, that too has come to fruition. We have been preaching this day was racing towards us, but since we know not the day or the hour, none of us knew it would be this fast. No matter ... we have been prepared since the start of our walk with our loving Saviour, Commander and King, Jesus Christ. The silver lining here is that we are going to be going home that much sooner. And with that I say, MARANATHA!

afchief #homophobia #wingnut christiannews.net

afchief
Nope! It is NOT the minority in every case. If the majority votes for it, it then becomes law!

Don't forget; “All laws which are repugnant to the Constitution are null and void.” —Marbury v Madison 1803.

Homosexuality is "repugnant!!!!

The Supreme Court once rendered the opinion that black men were inferior to whites? Did you know that the Supreme Court once ruled that women had no legal right to vote? Did you know that as recently as 1986 the Supreme Court ruled that there was no right to homosexual sodomy?

A SCOTUS ruling is ONLY an opinion!!!!!

MidNightRider2001 #homophobia #sexist disqus.com

The rapid homosexualization of the US population over the past 3 decades shows how sex ratios become imbalanced and unequal. It's now not possible for a large percentage of males under age 30 to even date a woman due to higher rates of non-heterosexuality in females. You can read the study and see for yourself.
Now, it's possible the homosexually displaced heterosexual males will turn to drugs, booze, video games, or other activities and nothing will happen.
Or it's possible some of these males will realize that they're victims of a world that's thrown them overboard and violence will ensue. It may create a small civil war or regular acts of terrorism. Only time will tell.
When a large enough portion of males realize women may legally wed women, yet they as men are mathematically eliminated from doing so, I predict violence. In fact, we may have already seen some in the past college shootings.

afchief #homophobia #fundie disqus.com

(on homosexuals)

They sure do hate themselves. Why would someone want to continue in a lifestyle where you lifespan is cut short because of the disease it causes. I can cite numerous places that show how dangerous this lifestyle is. The dirty truth of the matter is homosexuality is not about 'love', it is about sex. You can love someone without fulfilling a hedonistic lustful desire. Nothing about the homosexual 'movement' is honest. No one will ever convince true Christians and clear thinking people of our country that there is anything normal about homosexuality. It is a deviant, perversion and sin. To continue in this sin of homosexuality, is to hate oneself.

But there is freedom in Jesus Christ.

David J. Stewart #fundie #kinkshaming #homophobia jesus-is-savior.com

Perversion is everywhere. The ever-popular Late Night TV shows of David Letterman, The Tonight Show with Jay Leno, Conan O'Brien and a host of other perverts have led America into ruin. For years Conan O'Brien mocked God, singing gleefully about going to Hell when he dies. Prime-Time television is nothing but sex, sex, sex. Sick CBS Sitcom 'The Big Bang Theory' Is Highest Rated Sex Perversion On Television. Americans are dirty-minded perverts because of the evils of television!!! Walt Disney targets teenagers with sexual immorality, fornication, new morality, the irresponsible Playboy philosophy and feminist indoctrination. Disney's NICKELODEON (Nick) openly promotes lesbianism and homosexuality, featuring effeminate boys giving flowers to other boys.

TV is waxing worse-and-worse each season. The Women's Entertainment (We) channel has produced a new sleazy show titled, “Pregnant And Dating,” featuring pregnant women who are whoring around. The sicko program uses the slogan, “Taking control.” What a joke... taking control? These are irresponsible women who couldn't keep their clothes on in the first place! They were reckless committing sexual immorality. They were reckless for unintentionally getting pregnant. Taking control? I don't think so! It's bad enough that they're pregnant by another man to whom they're not married, but now they're dating other men before even having the baby. It's a little too late to “take control” of their life after they're pregnant, the father of the child is gone and now they're already dating strangers. America is a society of whores and whoremongers!

Television and the evil people who are featured in these evil films make a total mockery of Biblical morality. They laugh and joke about dating while pregnant like it's a big joke. Ha! Ha! Ha! Well God is not amused. God is not laughing! How far will the vile television networks go to boost ratings?

Abortion is the consequence of shameless (or I should say 'shameful') adultery and fornication, which are epidemic all across America. Woe unto America!!! We are a nation of reckless adulterers, vile homosexuals, lustful sex-perverts and cold-blooded murderers!!! There was a respectable time in America when a woman who was pregnant out-of-wedlock was embarrassed and ashamed; but nowadays loose women boast on national TV that they're “Pregnant And Dating.”

Scott Lively #homophobia rightwingwatch.org

Anti-gay activist Scott Lively closed out 2015 by publishing a couple of open letters to his fellow anti-gay activists begging for money and urging them to join him in pushing to the passage of Russian-style anti-gay laws in America and elsewhere.

Lively bragged that he is being targeted by gay activists because his Abiding Truth Ministries is "one of the most feared and hated pro-family organizations in the world ... because we know more about the history, strategies and tactics of their movement than just about anyone on our side." The downside of being so "feared" is that he is now facing a lawsuit stemming from his anti-gay activism in Uganda, which is why Lively was begging for donations:

My friends, SMUG v Lively is truly a David v Goliath battle. I’m running a one-man office on a shoestring budget of less than $120,000 per year, provided almost entirely by donations of $50 and $100 from average people. Our donor base is small, mostly elderly, and very difficult to expand due to the success of the anti-Lively propaganda. While Liberty Counsel has been funding our legal defense, this lawsuit has nevertheless caused us major financial hardship and seriously threatens our future.

Frankly, I question whether ATM will survive the decade without greater support from the individuals scattered across the society who recognize the danger of the LGBT agenda and are willing to stand with us financially against it. That can only happen if the people who already support us encourage their like-minded friends and allies to donate to us.

In a separate "letter to the international pro-family movement," Lively declared that "the Leaders and Activists of the LGBT movement are malicious deceivers and evil-doers, deliberately subverting civilized society and viciously attacking all opponents to advance their selfish and self-destructive interests" and called for anti-gay activists to focus on preventing the passage of antidiscrimination ordinances that protect sexual orientation in places where they don't already exist and repealing them where they do.

Lively went on to recommend that his fellow anti-gay activists likewise work to pass Russian-style laws banning gay "propaganda" in America and around the world:

We need to build international pro-family solidarity on a foundation of genuine moral authority, meaning it must rest on the premise that homosexuality itself is personally and socially harmful, and not pretend that our only social and political interests are the "welfare of children" or the "definition of marriage." That pretense is a product of the same diseased pro-family "leadership" that marched the American pro-family movement from one disastrous defeat to the next for the past three decades, and it is now being exported to the rest of the world by the same men.

The beauty of the Russian law is it cuts right to the heart of the real problem of LGBT advocacy: the recruitment of children. What I mean by recruitment of children is not primarily the sexual exploitation of young people by adult homosexuals, though that represents a dark current within the larger “gay” culture, especially among the men. What I mean is the normalization of homosexual conduct and culture to children and youths, leading them to engage in homosexual experimentation among themselves and subsequently self-identify as "gay." An entire generation of American, British and Canadian children has been enslaved to this corrupt culture and ideology through the very propaganda that Russia has now banned.

While numerous countries of the African continent have chosen a much stricter approach, seeking to deter all homosexual conduct through harsh criminal sanctions, the Russian law balances the privacy rights of adult homosexuals (who choose to live discretely outside the mainstream of society) with the need of the nation to protect its children from the ravages of sexual perversion. It deters the LGBT lobby from attempting to mainstream the "gay" lifestyle, while granting the individual members of its community the "right to be left alone" that was the original stated goal of their movement in its early years, before it adopted the militant fascist tactics it is known for today.

Kevin Swanson #fundie #homophobia #wingnut rightwingwatch.org

Far-right Colorado pastor Kevin Swanson got some negative publicity last month when he managed to get three Republican presidential candidates to speak at an event he organized, where he spent most of his speaking time warning that America must repent for such sins as birth control, liking Harry Potter too much and failing to execute gay people.

On his “Generations Radio” program yesterday, Swanson said that although he was “severely mocked” for his remarks at the conference, it is true that America must repent or God will punish the nation through the election of Hillary Clinton, who will in turn lead “tremendous majorities of American kids” down “the track towards homosexuality” and other sexual sins.

Swanson got on the subject while discussing a recent case in Massachusetts in which a judge found that a Catholic school violated a state nondiscrimination law when it pulled a job offer from its food services director after he listed his husband as an emergency contact.

Swanson warned that this was all part of the “preparation for the Greek form of education, which, as you know, involves whatever’s going on in gymnasia, very, very ugly stuff” and that the nation is “going in the direction of Harry Potter’s mentor and Hiccup’s mentor in ‘How to Train Your Dragon,’” whom he says are gay.

The only way to save America, he said, is to keep enough kids out of public schools, which are teaching them to be “polytheists and socialists” and to get enough Americans to repent, otherwise God will fail to “have mercy on this nation” and allow Clinton to be elected president.

If America fails to repent, he asked, “Why wouldn’t Hillary Clinton get full rein upon this nation to continue the destructive pattern, destroy the social fabric of the nation — the family, of course — so that of course there will be 75 percent of kids born outside of wedlock to single mothers by the year 2030, so to be sure that tremendous majorities of American kids are taken down the track towards homosexuality, towards the destruction of sexuality with pornography habits, illegitimate divorce, the shack-up rates being 30 times what they were in 1970 and so forth?”

Mike Stefan #wingnut #homophobia disqus.com

[On Kim Davis not wanting to put her name on same sex marriage licenses.]

Lots of posters are discussing what the fix should be, and saying things like the Governor's actions are a fix.

Perhaps - but only if the people of Kentucky wish to bend over, and acknowledge the will of the Federal Government on this issue. The People of Kentucky had - up to that point - refused to codify gay marriage. Many States had, including California, when this challenge was brought to SCOTUS.

But the activists weren't content to be judged by a jury of their State peers. They wished to troll the waters which they felt contained the majority that they sought (and - as testament to their deviancy, couldn't even find such waters in CALIFORNIA! lol).

This is about judicial activism. About liberalism, and its ability to infect and mutate. All it takes is enough members of a certain political persuasion to infect a majority of the Bench, and - viola! - laws!? WTF.

The dissenters @ SCOTUS explain clearly where the majority drastically overreached - just as Ambulance Chaser has (though I have little doubt that the brainwashing propaganda upon which AC bases his argument is so engrained as to elicit a physical reaction if challenged).

Here is what should have happened. The Governor has an obligation to the people of Kentucky; not first the federal government. I believe the Governor should have again polled the people of Kentucky to determine whether or not to compel a constitutional crisis over this issue. I believe that this is a serious overreach on the part of fedgov, and issues like this are intentionally chosen to continue the pressure to squash states rights and institute FEDGOV as the sole legit governing body.

That is not how a representative republic should be; not what the Constitution demands it be.

If the people of Kentucky demand that their voice be heard in refusing to codify gay marriage in their own state, then the Governor should honor those wishes, and refuse to obey this insipid ruling, forcing the crisis I mention.

Federal government needs to be challenged and put back in its rightful - far less powerful - place. Everything is being Federalized around you, people. Wake up.

David James #fundie #homophobia #conspiracy #racist eurofolkradio.com

Cincinnati(SINSINati) Outlaws Quoting The Bible.

Starting Wednesday, quoting the the Bible will officially be illegal in Cincinnati. A new ordinance places a $200 per day fee on any therapist or counselor who uses Christian doctrine to guide their clients.

The law is aimed at abolishing therapies which seek to guide homosexuals, bisexuals and transgenders away from their sinful tendencies, and instead steer them towards a heterosexual, biblically correct lifestyle.

According to the Conservative Post, any counselor using 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 to help those caught in sin could face fines of $73,000 per year.

“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.” (1 Corinthians 6:9-11)

Many families seek out guidance from Christian-based counselors because they prefer to receive help from someone who is likeminded and shares their deeply-held religious views. The Bible helps those troubled by all sorts of sexual sin, not just homosexuality, but now it will be illegal for anyone in Cincinnati to obtain spiritual guidance for anything from extramarital affairs to premarital sex.

Imagine, just for a moment, that Cincinnati had the audacity to tell Muslims they could not reference the Koran. The media firestorm which would ensue would be unprecedented. The lawsuits which would be brewing might permanently bankrupt the city. But, instead, we have another attack on Christians, with very little backlash.

Share this report if you believe this new law is unconstitutional and must be repealed!

Ladies and Gentlemen, this is the beginning attempt to enforce the Noahide Laws passed by Daddy Bush the Jew traitor. These are not the laws of Moses by any means. We will soon see what these Jews are trying to pull.

After viewing some of this movie, I have a few comments to make. The Rabbis make a pretense to care for the other families of this world which they hate and abuse. I suggest that they focus on their own people first. The Rabbis claim that we should not blaspheme God, worship idols, kill, lie, steal—etc, but that’s all their people ever do, so, pull the log out of you own eyes first and then you can pretend to want to remove a splinter from the eye’s of the other families of the earth. These Jews pretend that they go by the Pentateuch(The first 5 books of the Bible), but they don’t. This is just for deceptive purposes, giving you the idea that they are God’s chosen people. Many Jews have claimed that Lucifer(Heylel) is their God and it is so— they are the chosen people of the wanna be god of this world. That is the real truth people. Also, here again we see the double standard of the Jews—one set of laws for them and one for the rest of us. When are you people going to wake up and see things as they really are?

So when they speak of us not worshiping idols, they mean Jesus Christ. I will definitely do a show on this soon. Until then, seek ye the truth!

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