#homophobia

All about the Gay Agenda

HENRY M. MORRIS, PH.D. #homophobia #fundie icr.org

Since such behavior is part of our evolutionary genetics, they argue that we must not legislate against it, even though it is producing too much population. The remedy, they say, is not to return to Biblical morality, but to promote "safe sex" and abortion (perhaps also infanticide and euthanasia), and even homosexuality. These practices are said to be common in the animal world, so are part of acceptable evolutionary philosophy.
The practice of homosexuality (formerly considered a crime, and firmly condemned in the Bible), is now considered not only acceptable but even desirable by most evolutionists. A recent large volume goes to great lengths to show how normal it is in an evolutionary context. A recent review of this book in the prestigious journal Nature says,
The species-by-species accounts of adult mammals and birds of the same sex courting and mounting each other, living in pairs, defending joint territories and raising young together are fully documented and referenced. . . .
Similarly, a review in New Scientist commends the extensive research of the author.
And not just primates, according to a compendium of animal homosexuality, just published in Britain by Bruce Bagemihl, an independent scholar and author based in Seattle. . . . The result is a species-by-species profile of more than 470 species. . . . "Nearly every type of same-sex activity found among humans has its counterpart in the animal kingdom," he concludes. His take-home message is simple: Homosexual behavior is as "natural" as heterosexual behavior.

Mark Ellis #homophobia #dunning-kruger yahoo.com

It is hard to paint anything but a grisly face on this remorseless serial killer. There’s just nothing good to say about a homosexual psychopath who lured victims to his apartment and implacably snuffed them out. But if some obscure Home & Garden channel can overlook the unsavory backstory, there’s a doc here, a program that could catapult a seldom-watched network into cable prime time: What We Can Learn About Refrigeration From Jeffrey Dahmer.

Them Before Us #homophobia #transphobia thembeforeus.com

No matter how exceptional at parenting two moms or dads may be, they’re incapable of providing the gender-specific love and biological identity exclusive to the child’s absent mother or father. The problem with same-sex parenting isn’t the gay parent, it’s the missing parent.
“NO DIFFERENCE,” REALLY?
Most “studies” proclaiming that kids with same-sex parents fare “no different” than children of heterosexual parents are methodologically flawed:
Participants were aware that the purpose was to investigate same-sex parenting, thus the respondents may have aimed at producing the desired result.
Participants were often recruited through friends or through advocacy organizations.
Most surveyed parental perception rather than the children’s actual outcomes.
On average, samples of fewer than forty children of parents in a same-sex relationship virtually guaranteed findings showing no statistically significant differences between groups.
Of these erroneous study results, Stephen, who lived part-time with his father and his father’s partner, said, “I keep seeing articles stating that children with gay parents do just as well, if not better, than children with straight parents. Where are they getting their information? Have they interviewed any adult children with gay parents, who can think for themselves and are no longer living with their parents?”
[…]
Many kids with parents who’ve transitioned describe the experience as a type of death. They don’t feel like their father has become their mother; rather, their father is altogether gone.
“My dad made the change to Stephanie and in doing so, destroyed his family…. The feelings I felt were loss. To me, my father had died, and there was no changing that. I was looking at a shell of the man I once knew. It was hard seeing him because, to me, he passed away, and it brought up those same feelings every time. I could no longer relate to him the same way.” -Elizabeth
Joshua reflects on how his father’s decision to become a woman, Karen, has most impacted his own sense of what it means to be a man. “When that person, your masculine figure, is lost to you at the most pertinent age and suddenly [there’s a] woman in front of you, what are you supposed to do?… What is it to be a man?”

CAPreport reviewer #fundie #homophobia capalert.com

[Oddly enough, from a review of 'Mean Girls'. He's pretty nasty about Lindsay Lohan, too]

Apparently Canada has made it illegal to believe God's Word about the practice of homosexuality and has made free speech about it and freedom of religion illegal. But America has not. Just think. In Canada, homosexual practitioners can now approach young kids and their parents cannot speak out against it. If you don't want that to happen here, speak out. Now! To your legislators and congresspeople. Now! And don't let them tell you there is nothing happening. YOU tell THEM what is happening. They work for YOU. And they do NOT know everything. Some of them are apparently clueless about the progression of the practice of homosexuality in America. And some of them want it to progress. If you don't tell your legislators and congresspeople what you want and don't want, you'll have to take what you get.

Old Man Montgomery #fundie #homophobia oldmanmontgomery.wordpress.com

[=Authors Note: For the sake of trimming, some of the Bible verses in the original page have been removed=]

From the website of ‘johnshore.com’

These were published and dated December 16, 2010. I have only recently become aware of this ‘movement’ via Facebook. (One never knows what one will find there.) These are referred to as the “Sixteen Tenets of ‘unfundamentalist Christians’ , known also or previously known as ‘ThruWay Christians’. Being the old-fashioned, hard-nosed Bible thumper that I am, I disagree with some facets of this and the conclusions of the entirety.

Of course I have reasons and those reasons are published below. Just for convenience, I numbered the statements, replacing what appeared in my copy as a paragraph ‘dot’.

Just for the record, as the article was dated December 16, 2010, it is entirely possible Mr. Shore has completely changed his mind and recanted this whole document. On the other hand, I just checked Mr. Shore’s last blog entry and he’s still pitching the “UnFund” theme.

Caution: If the reader is not a Christian believer, much of this discussion will seem pointless. Feel free to read on, but if you’re confused, don’t worry, it happens to lots of folks.

Here beings the tenets:

1. Jesus Christ was God incarnate. He performed miracles; as a means of providing for the irrevocable reconciliation of humankind to God he sacrificed himself on the cross; he rose from the dead; he left behind for the benefit of all people the totality of himself in the form of the indwelling Holy Spirit.

So far, I’m in agreement. Jesus is God incarnate; the ‘Son’ who is God Himself. Jesus was executed and killed (no alternatives) on a Roman cross under Roman law. Jesus’ death was the final sacrifice needed to atone for the sin of all people who appeal to Him for forgiveness. Jesus rose from the dead on the third day showing Himself to be God and giving a promise to all of an Eternal life in Heaven with Him. He sent the Third Person of the Godhead, the ‘Holy Spirit’ to believers after His ascension.

2. Christ and Christianity are meant to be understood, appreciated, and experienced as galvanizing inspirations for living a life of love, compassion, fairness, peace, and humility. Period.

Now we’re disagreeing. The primary purpose and function of Christianity is to repair the breach between God and mankind due to mankind’s rebellion and disobedience. Being forgiven by Jesus and redeemed by His sacrifice, mankind can have a direct and proper relationship with God. The qualities of love, compassion, fairness, peace and humility are by-products of that proper relationship, not the primary aim.

Am I splitting hairs here? Not as much as one might think; the matter becomes clearer as we proceed.

3. The Bible is a collection of a great many separate documents written by different people in different languages over thousands of years. Properly understanding both the letter and spirit of the Bible necessarily entails taking into account the historical and cultural contexts that so greatly inform so much of its text. The size, density, history and complexity of the Bible render unfeasible the idea that not one of its words reflects more man’s will than God’s. The spirit of God is inerrant; people—even those impassioned by the conviction that God is speaking directly to or through them—are not.

The one starts out well and descends into heresy. The Bible was written over a period of approximately 1500 years. The Books of Moses, the Torah – sometimes Pentateuch, was written in the period between the Exodus from Egypt, around 1400 B. C. to the time of the Babylonian Captivity, around 600 to 530 B. C. (give or take a decade or so.) The book of Revelation, written by John the Apostle was written around 90 A. D. The rest was written somewhere in between, with the possible exception of Job. Job was one of the earliest sections written and may predate Moses. The Bible was assuredly written by at least forty different authors. (For instance, the books of Judges, Kings and Chronicles were written over periods of time and one author could not have written them all; they require accounts from events several hundred years apart. The Torah was more than likely written by a number of scribes with Moses or a later, Babylonian scholar as ‘editor’ and having final input. Genesis is obviously based on oral traditions of the Israelite nation.) The books reflect social conventions and cultural coloring of the times involved.

However, it is the message of Almighty God to humanity. No matter how much a human can foul up, the integrity of the message is based on God’s ability to ensure His message is properly passed on. No human can foul up or outright lie good enough to defeat God’s purpose. So as much as mankind wrote the words on paper (papyrus or whatever), the ‘Word’ (Greek ‘logos’, meaning idea, identity or concept) is that of God. As such, it is inerrant in message.

The idea of the Bible being ‘written by man and therefore possibly distorted’ is an old heresy. It was argued about in the earliest councils trying to settle on the ‘Bible’ and is the basis for several cults who claim to be Christian, but rely on teachings of extra Biblical origin. The heresy also finds much favor among those who wish to discredit any one particular facet of Christian doctrine. Under any version, the idea the Bible isn’t correct means either God really doesn’t care about the message or God is incapable of protecting His own plan. Christians cannot in good faith (no pun intended) accept either alternative.

4. Anyone seeking to mix church and state has failed to understand the nature and proper role of either. Belief that all people are created equal and are deserving of equal protection under the law is foundational to all modern democratic nations. To incorporate the inherently exclusionary imperatives of a particular religion into the determinedly inclusive system of democracy would be to undermine the very spirit of democracy by pushing it toward a theocracy.

This is a pretty silly statement and is highly ignorant of history. The ‘foundational’ belief of people being created equal and deserving equal protection under law is uniquely derived from the Judeo-Christian tradition. It is not found in Islam, Confucianism, Buddhism, Hinduism or any of the other ‘religions’ of the world. It is Christianity that fostered Democracy, not Democracy that fostered Christianity.

Additionally, it was Christian believers and supporters who founded the United States as a nation with no state religion. The United States was not founded as a ‘Christian nation’, but was indeed begun as a ‘nation of Christians’. To pretend otherwise is to ignore history and to invite serious question as to the point of the discussion. One must also note that all movements to ‘remove’ the influence of Christianity from the United States and civil laws result in the promotion of either Secular Humanism or Islam.

There are no moral vacuums.

5. It’s not possible to read Paul’s New Testament writings and remain unmoved by his open heart, intellectual prowess, and staggering bravery. And yet Paul (who, after all, spent years zealously persecuting and having executed untold numbers of Christians) must remain to us a mortal man. More than reasonable, it is incumbent upon those who claim to seek the deepest knowledge of Christ to subject the words of Paul to the same kinds of objective analysis we would the words of any man daring to describe the qualities, purposes, and desires of God.

This is a gentle, lofty and seemingly reasonable attempt to undermine the message presented by God through Paul the Apostle. What this statement does is deny the Divine inspiration and authorship of the Bible as a whole. It returns to the fore in a moment with more of the ‘villify Paul’ agenda.

6. With regards to the written identity of God, the pronoun “he” is a necessity of the English language, not an actual anatomical designation. God is neither male nor female; God contains all of both.

Again, agreement. In Hebrew, just as in English, the male pronoun unless specifically intended refers to both male and female. Jesus says (John 4:23 and 24)“But a time is coming – and now is here – when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father seeks such people to be his worshipers. God is spirit, and the people who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.” Also one notes in Genesis (chapter one, verses 26 and 27)
“Then God said, “Let us make humankind in our image, after our likeness, so they may rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move on the earth.”
God created humankind in his own image,
in the image of God he created them,
male and female he created them.

So, both male and female were (still are, more or less, being distorted from the original model by mankind’s disobedience) created in God’s image; which manifestly means not a physical image, but a mental and spiritual image.

7. The Biblical scholarship supporting the idea that Paul never wrote a word proscribing natural homosexuality is at least as credible and persuasive as the scholarship (if not typical Bible translations) claiming that he did. Any person who uses the words of Paul in the New Testament to “prove” that homosexuality is a sin against God has either never themselves researched the matter, or has simply chosen to believe one set of equal proofs over another. Though laziness is easily enough understood, we remain mystified as to why anyone who purports to follow Jesus would choose to condemn an entire population over choosing to obey Jesus’ self-proclaimed Greatest Commandment to love one’s neighbor as one loves oneself.

Here’s the follow up to point 5. Once Paul is ‘questionable’, the condemnation of homosexuality can be dismissed as a personal quirk, or possibly an outright error on the part of Christianity (on the whole).

Here’s the premise of the tenet: Paul either really didn’t mean what he wrote about the practice of homosexuality despite what is clearly written in the original Greek manuscripts and all subsequent translations of the Bible, or Paul was mistaken and therefore not inspired by God. What an amazing statement.

Either God inspired and authored the Bible or not. If one chooses to deny God’s inspiration in part, then the whole becomes suspect. If God was lax in allowing Paul to write and publish errors, then what of the rest of the Bible is trustworthy? Conversely, if God did in fact inspire and author the Bible, then Paul’s writing is equally trustworthy.

Leviticus 18
This entire section (several chapters) deals with sexual sins and prohibitions. In part (I have inserted whole paragraphs to present an in context view):
19 You must not approach a woman in her menstrual impurity to have sexual intercourse with her. 20 You must not have sexual intercourse with the wife of your fellow citizen to become unclean with her. 21 You must not give any of your children as an offering to Molech, so that you do not profane the name of your God. I am the Lord! 22 You must not have sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman; it is a detestable act. 23 You must not have sexual intercourse with any animal to become defiled with it, and a woman must not stand before an animal to have sexual intercourse with it; it is a perversion.
Leviticus 20
9 “‘If anyone curses his father and mother he must be put to death. He has cursed his
father and mother; his blood guilt is on himself. 10 If a man commits adultery with his neighbor’s wife, both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. 11 If a man has sexual intercourse with his father’s wife, he has exposed his father’s nakedness. Both of them must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves. 12 If a man has sexual intercourse with his daughter-in-law, both of them must be put to death. They have committed perversion; their blood guilt is on themselves. 13 If a man has sexual intercourse with a male as one has sexual intercourse with a woman, the two of them have committed an abomination. They must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves. 14 If a man has sexual intercourse with both a woman and her mother, it is lewdness. Both he and they must be burned to death, so there is no lewdness in your midst. 15 If a man has sexual intercourse with any animal, he must be put to death, and you must kill the animal. 16 If a woman approaches any animal to have sexual intercourse with it, you must kill the woman, and the animal must be put to death; their blood guilt is on themselves.

These two passages are from the Torah, the first five books of the Old Testament. One can argue these are part of the Jewish or Mosaic Law and are therefore obsolete; in that case, general adultery, incest and bestiality are also permitted along with homosexual conduct. Or is that the point?

First Timothy 1 (written by that suspect Paul fellow)

8 But we know that the law is good if someone uses it legitimately, 9 realizing that law is not intended for a righteous person, but for lawless and rebellious people, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who kill their fathers or mothers, for murderers, 10 sexually immoral people, practicing homosexuals, kidnappers, liars, perjurers – in fact, for any who live contrary to sound teaching. 11 This accords with the glorious gospel of the blessed God that was entrusted to me.

There is a note on the phrase ‘practicing homosexuals’ in verse 10 from the NET Bible: “—this term— ??se?????t?? states, “a male who engages in sexual activity w. a pers. of his own sex, pederast 1 Cor 6:9—of one who assumes the dominant role in same-sex activity, opp. µa?a???—1 Ti 1:10; Pol 5:3. Cp. Ro 1:27.” L&N 88.280 states, “a male partner in homosexual intercourse – ‘homosexual.’—It is possible that ??se?????t?? in certain contexts refers to the active male partner in homosexual intercourse in contrast with µa?a???, the passive male partner” (cf. 1 Cor 6:9). Since there is a distinction in contemporary usage between sexual orientation and actual behavior, the qualification “practicing” was supplied in the translation—”

First Corinthians 6 (also written by that questionable Paul)
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! The sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, passive homosexual partners, practicing homosexuals, 10 thieves, the greedy, drunkards, the verbally abusive, and swindlers will not inherit the kingdom of God. 11 Some of you once lived this way. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

This last passage strikes me an illuminating. Homosexuals are included in a list of sin categories which include heterosexual sexual sinners, idolaters, adulterers (distinct from ‘sexually immoral heterosexuals), thieves, greedy, drunkards, verbally abusive and swindlers. The phrase ‘verbally abusive’ is rather interesting. The NIV translates it as ‘slanderers’; I think ‘gossips’ might easily fit into the meaning. At any rate, people who say nasty things about others are lumped in with murderers, thieves and the sexually immoral (of any type).

The last verse in the paragraph implies a change of life in those reading the letter. “Some of you — lived— But you were washed— sanctified— justified—” So they were not just forgiven and allowed to continue; they changed their values and life-styles. The same implication applies to the sexually impure; they don’t do that sort of thing anymore; they avoid that sort of thing; they are ashamed of and denounce their own past behavior.

Therefore, the Old Testament writings prohibited homosexual conduct as does the writings of Paul, therefore the New Testament. The words used really do mean homosexual conduct and not just the generic ‘sexual misconduct’.

I’m really curious about the ‘equal scholarship’ which demonstrates what the Bible says isn’t what it means. I’d like to examine the line of thought and arguments.

The statement “—Jesus’ self-proclaimed Greatest Commandment to love one’s neighbor as one loves oneself” is incorrect and sloppy scholarship.

Matthew 22:
35 And one of them, an expert in religious law, asked him a question to test him: 36 “Teacher, which commandment in the law is the greatest?” 37 Jesus 44 said to him, “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest commandment.

This tenet goes past ‘unfundamentalism’ and is squarely non-Christian.

8. It is much more reasonable—and certainly more compassionate—to hold that throughout history God chose to introduce himself in different ways into different cultural streams than it is to believe that there is only one correct way to understand and worship God, and that the punishment for anyone who chooses any but that way is to spend all of eternity having the living flesh seared off of his or her bones.

More reasonable? By who’s standard? As a Christian, the only viewpoint that counts is God’s viewpoint. That ‘viewpoint’ is expressed in the Bible, which is – as noted prior – God’s message to humanity.

More compassionate? To whom? Not to mention under what definition of ‘compassion’? I find no compassion in patting someone in error on the head and say comforting words while allowing them to remain in error at the risk of Eternal Death.

So let’s go along with the idea of God introducing Himself into different cultural streams in different ways. Why would introduce Himself in a totally different manner if He’s the same, Eternal God? For instance, in the sub-continent which is now India, why would God decide not to be the Eternal God of Creation of the Jewish people, but instead be represented by a pantheon of conflicting gods which change over time? Why would Almighty God manifest Himself as the volcano god, demanding virgin sacrifices? Would God happily change Himself into the Great Green Arkleseizure of Viltvodle VI?

Is He still God? Is He bored and just experimenting? Can He not remember who He is, from epoch to epoch?

The idea appeals to the ‘open-minded’ who have no ideas about who God is, or what He should be or do. The concept flies in the face of the ultimate creator of the Universe and all things that exist, who is Eternal and changeless, who is omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent. In other words, God.

Again, not just ‘unfundamentalist’, but not very good thinking and doctrinally non Christian.

9. “No one comes to the Father except through me” does not mean that in the afterlife only Christians can get into heaven. It means that Jesus/God decides who does and doesn’t make it in.

From this one is forced to believe Jesus will not judge between those who accept Him and those who don’t, but instead will judge by ad hoc rules of ‘good behavior’. I say ‘ad hoc’ because no such rules are outlined in the Bible.

All that stuff about believing in the Son and relying on Him in tenet 1 are out the window, then? It is good deeds that really make the difference?

This heresy is remarkably old as well. It predates Christianity, in fact.

Jesus mentioned this concept in Matthew Seven, starting with verse 15:
15 “Watch out for false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing but inwardly are voracious wolves. 16 You will recognize them by their fruit. Grapes are not gathered from thorns or figs from thistles, are they? 17 In the same way, every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree is not able to bear bad fruit, nor a bad tree to bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 So then, you will recognize them by their fruit.
21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven – only the one who does the will of my Father in heaven. 22 On that day, many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, didn’t we prophesy in your name, and in your name cast out demons and do many powerful deeds?’ 23 Then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you. Go away from me, you lawbreakers!’
24 “Everyone who hears these words of mine and does them is like a wise man who built his house on rock. 25 The rain fell, the flood came, and the winds beat against that house, but it did not collapse because it had been founded on rock. 26 Everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them is like a foolish man who built his house on sand. 27 The rain fell, the flood came, and the winds beat against that house, and it collapsed; it was utterly destroyed!”
So then, what about “— the one who does the will of my Father in heaven—”? John 15, starting with verse nine makes it clear:
9 “Just as the Father has loved me, I have also loved you; remain in my love. 10 If you obey my commandments, you will remain in my love, just as I have obeyed my Father’s commandments and remain in his love. 11 I have told you these things so that my joy may be in you, and your joy may be complete.”

Nowhere in the Bible, nowhere in the quotations of Jesus, nowhere in the letters of the various apostles and elders in Jerusalem is any such doctrine mentioned or taught. In one setting (John 10:14-18), Jesus says,
14 “I am the good shepherd. I know my own and my own know me – 15 just as the Father knows me and I know the Father – and I lay down my life for the sheep. 16 I have other sheep that do not come from this sheepfold. I must bring them too, and they will listen to my voice, so that there will be one flock and one shepherd. 17 This is why the Father loves me – because I lay down my life, so that I may take it back again. 18 No one takes it away from me, but I lay it down of my own free will. I have the authority to lay it down, and I have the authority to take it back again. This commandment I received from my Father.”

Verse 16 is often used to ‘prove’ the heresy of various versions of God and or Jesus running about in human history, showing up in various forms and guises. One fellow seriously suggested it could indicate the existence of extra-terrestrial life. Actually, the statement simply indicates non-Jewish people were included. That’s all.

I personally don’t have any problem with extra-terrestrial life, or any of them being in Heaven. But it will be on the basis of an individual relationship with Jesus Christ.

I am also firmly convinced all the inhabitants of planet Earth will have adequate notice of the person and Deity of Jesus Christ. God is not the sort of being who looks for tiny excuses and ‘foot-faults’ to disqualify anyone from Heaven.

10. The question of whether or not hell is real is properly subsumed by the truth that a moment spent worrying if you’ll be with God in the afterlife is an opportunity missed to be with God in this life.

I agree. There is no point of wondering, let alone worrying, if Hell is real. Jesus talks about it too much to be in doubt. It isn’t pleasant, but it’s there. One is obliged to take note and do something to avoid residence.

11. God’s will and intention is to forgive and teach us, not to judge and punish us.

That is true, but only to a qualified extent. Jesus came to Earth as a mortal man to tell us what to do to avoid Eternal punishment and die in our place to pay the price for our sin. Obviously, God the Father was in on this plan as was the Holy Spirit.

God really does not want anyone to spend Eternity in Hell. However, since all mankind is in the default position of being in rebellion against God, mankind is by default condemned to Eternal Hell.

The words of Jesus in John, chapter three:
16 For this is the way God loved the world: He gave his one and only Son, so that everyone who believes in him will not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world should be saved through him. 18 The one who believes in him is not condemned. The one who does not believe has been condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the one and only Son of God. 19 Now this is the basis for judging: that the light has come into the world and people loved the darkness rather than the light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For everyone who does evil deeds hates the light and does not come to the light, so that their deeds will not be exposed. 21 But the one who practices the truth comes to the light, so that it may be plainly evident that his deeds have been done in God.
God is loving and concerned. God is simultaneously honest and just. God is God and that means – in a long list of other things – He will always conduct Himself as God and be true to His own nature.

There are also a number of references warning that when Jesus returns – ‘The Second Coming’ – He will in fact judge all people according to their alliances.

12. The only person who should be actively endeavoring to convert non-Christians into Christians is God. Jesus does not need our help drawing people towards him. He does need, or could certainly use, our help in making sure that people know that they are, just as they are, loved.

This statement directly contradicts the command of Jesus.

Matthew 28:16-20
16 So the eleven disciples went to Galilee to the mountain Jesus had designated. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him, but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came up and said to them, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age

Acts 1
6 So when they had gathered together, they began to ask him, “Lord, is this the time when you are restoring the kingdom to Israel?” 7 He told them, “You are not permitted to know the times or periods that the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you, and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the farthest parts of the earth.” 9 After he had said this, while they were watching, he was lifted up and a cloud hid him from their sight.

First Peter 3
15 But set Christ apart as Lord in your hearts and always be ready to give an answer to anyone who asks about the hope you possess. (“Hope” here meaning the expectation of Eternal life with God.)

So in this statement again, the concept is not ‘un-fundamentalist’ but ‘un-Christian’.

13. Getting a divorce is painful, and if at all possible should certainly be avoided. But ultimately the act in and of itself is not immoral.

This statement flatly contradicts Jesus’ teaching on the subject.

Matthew 5
31 “It was said, ‘Whoever divorces his wife must give her a legal document.’ 32 But I say to you that everyone who divorces his wife, except for immorality, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.

Matthew 19
3 Then some Pharisees came to him in order to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful to divorce a wife for any cause?” 4 He answered, “Have you not read that from the beginning the Creator made them male and female, 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and will be united with his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” 7 They said to him, “Why then did Moses command us to give a certificate of dismissal and to divorce her?” 8 Jesus said to them, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because of your hard hearts, but from the beginning it was not this way. 9 Now I say to you that whoever divorces his wife, except for immorality, and marries another commits adultery.” 10 The disciples said to him, “If this is the case of a husband with a wife, it is better not to marry!”11 He said to them, “Not everyone can accept this statement, except those to whom it has been given. 12 For there are some eunuchs who were that way from birth, and some who were made eunuchs by others, and some who became eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. The one who is able to accept this should accept it.”

So yes, Jesus said divorce is an immoral act, save for the cause of adultery. Even then, the divorced man or woman is limited in options.

14. God does not want any woman “submitting” to anyone.

Another direct contradiction of Biblical teaching.

Ephesians 5
22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord, 23 because the husband is the head of the wife as also Christ is the head of the church – he himself being the savior of the body. 24 But as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. 25 Husbands, love your wives just as Christ loved the church and gave himself for her 26 to sanctify her by cleansing her with the washing of the water by the word, 27 so that he may present the church to himself as glorious – not having a stain or wrinkle, or any such blemish, but holy and blameless. 28 In the same way husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.

Colossians 3
18 Wives, submit to your husbands, as is fitting in the Lord. 19 Husbands, love your wives and do not be embittered against them.

Oh, wait! That’s that questionable Paul again! Since Paul is so very questionable, we can ignore much of his writings – especially the parts about moral conduct, sexual misconduct and general carryings-on.

First Peter 3
1 In the same way, wives, be subject to your own husbands. Then, even if some are disobedient to the word, they will be won over without a word by the way you live, 2 when they see your pure and reverent conduct— like Sarah who obeyed Abraham, calling him lord. You become her children when you do what is good and have no fear in doing so. 7 Husbands, in the same way, treat your wives with consideration as the weaker partners and show them honor as fellow heirs of the grace of life. In this way nothing will hinder your prayers.

That’s the summation of Peter the Apostle. He agrees with Paul the suspect.

15. There were no dinosaurs on Noah’s ark; Jesus didn’t have a pet stegosaurus. An all-powerful God and the theory of evolution are not incompatible.

Whooop! Whooop! Whooop! Strawman Alert!
So, just where do we find claims of dinosaurs on Noah’s Ark? Which gospel contains the story of Jesus and His pet stegosaurus? What kind of hairball ploy is this?

Okay, “An all-powerful God and the theory of evolution are not incompatible.” That part is reasonable enough. However, this isn’t a matter of doctrinal distinction; it’s a matter of textual examination.

Dinosaurs on the Ark? Sheesh.

16. The single most telling indicator of a person’s moral character has nothing to do with how they define or worship God, and everything to do with how they treat others.

So, a relationship with God isn’t important; what is important is ‘good deeds’.

Actually, this is a deceptive argument; somewhat strawman in nature. I’ll agree one’s ‘moral character’ is not always dependent on how one defines or worships God. However, one’s moral character has nothing to do with one’s Eternal estate, being in a proper relationship with God and spending Eternity with God in Heaven.

One can be a rotten skunk and be bound for Heaven, or a very decent, clean, honest and honorable person going to Hell.

I know for a fact that my moral character was – for that matter ‘is’ – not always as good and shining as it ought to be. After becoming a Christian, I have sinned grievously, often and cheerfully. But my eternal destination is already secure and in Jesus’ care. As far as God is concerned in Judgment, I am as pure as Jesus.

Which is not to say I’m content in my life that way, or at peace with God. I found I was a jittery, angry, depressed, unsettled maniac; at least some combination of two or three of those. I can hide it well, but it’s there and I am very aware of it.

What happens is this: God works on me to make me into who – the type of person – He wants me to be, fit for Heaven in Eternity.

To conclude:

“Un-fundamentalists” accept the Deity, Sacrifice, Resurrection and Redemptive nature and power of Jesus Christ. However, they also believe God has appeared in other forms and guises, seemingly revealing other versions of Himself. So Jesus really isn’t uniquely God at all.

“Un-fundamentalists” deny the Divinely Inspired nature of the Bible, strip Paul’s writing of authority and accept homosexual misconduct – and by inference, heterosexual misconduct – as both normal and moral.

“Un-fundamentalists” claim the goal of Christianity is to live a good life; ‘good’ being defined by not offending anyone, getting along with all and ignoring Biblical principles if adherence would cause a row.

“Un-fundamentalists” believe Christians should not vote in accordance with Biblical principles. Nor should laws follow the long held traditions of either Judaism or Christianity.

“Un-fundamentalists” do not assume responsibility for evangelism; in fact, evangelism is discouraged.

“Un-fundamentalists” believe God never criticizes or judges human conduct. They believe there is no Hell. After all, God isn’t going to punish anyone for anything anyway.

All things considered, “Un-fundamentalist Christian” is not a properly descriptive phrase. Citing the serious theological and doctrinal differences between this cult and mainstream Christianity, I would suggest perhaps “Nearly Christian” would be a better description. Since the first tenet does recognize Jesus as God, perhaps “Barely Christian” would do.

Now, I know some bright soul is going to jump on me with the Biblical injunction of “Judge not, lest ye be judged”. The statement comes in Matthew 7, starting with the beginning of the chapter. The whole paragraph reads as follows:

1 “Do not judge so that you will not be judged. 2 For by the standard you judge you will be judged, and the measure you use will be the measure you receive. 3 Why do you see the speck in your brother’s eye, but fail to see the beam of wood in your own? 4 Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me remove the speck from your eye,’ while there is a beam in your own? 5 You hypocrite! First remove the beam from your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye. 6 Do not give what is holy to dogs or throw your pearls before pigs; otherwise they will trample them under their feet and turn around and tear you to pieces.

This whole speech is addressed at being judgmental of other people in regard to their fitness or standing before God. I am not ‘judging’ any person, but a set of beliefs and how they measure up to Christianity, I am not violating any injunction. Indeed, I am following a warning given by John the Revelator in First John 4:

1 Dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to determine if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses Jesus as the Christ who has come in the flesh is from God, 3 but every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God, and this is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming, and now is already in the world.

So I am testing this ‘spirit’, this claim of revelation of God. I find interesting that tenet 1 claims to recognize Jesus as the Son of God in the Flesh, and then denies Jesus’ Deity in most of the subsequent tenets.

Victor Cardiss #fundie #homophobia premier.org.uk

[=An extended version of another one of his comments

"Mum... Dad... Sit down I have something I need to share with you, Before I begin the news I have may be against all the basic principles you have practiced all your life so you need to know something first...
In My hand I'm holding a live grenade... I've pulled the pin out but I still have the lever depressed. If you upset me by not accepting everything I tell you with a big big smile, I'll drop this thing and destroy this family. Accept my news with a big smile and I'll put the pin back....
By the way... I'm Gay"
This is how the conversation NEVER goes...
"Mom... Dad... I know you find it almost impossible to accept the fact I've chosen a new lifestyle and I know this isn't what you wanted for me as I was growing up. I know you've never accepted homosexuality as a 'Blessed' lifestyle choice and I completely understand how heart-breaking it is for you to know I've turned my back on everything you believe. Nevertheless I love you and will stay with you no matter what your reaction is"
The most Common two stories I hear are "My parents were terrific and I had no problems"
and
"My parents threw me out of the house and I hate them"
It's all or nothing with homosexuals... "Accept me or I'll hate you forever and I'll never try to understand how I've broken your hearts!"
(I've a funny feeling you KNOW I'm right!)

[deleted] #homophobia #biphobia #transphobia reddit.com

I’m growing to resent the LGBT community and the people in it.

Before I start this, I’d like to preface it with saying that I want HELP. Anyone planning on flaming me on the comments will only push me to be more to be LGBT-phobic. I want help. I don’t want to hate lgbt people. I’ve always been tolerant/embracing of the lgbt crowd. However, recently, I’ve become resentful, and something hateful is building in me. It seems like every in-person interaction I have with an LGBT person, specifically Lesbian, Transgender, or Bisexual, there’s an overwhelming “I’m morally superior than you and you don’t know suffering” For an example, I was telling some motivational, “overcome your obstacles and become great” speech, and they just straight up said that they couldn’t BECAUSE they’re gay. Then they told me they can’t because they’re suicidal and gay. I mentioned my struggle with depression and self harm and do you know what they did? Each and every ONE of them explained to me how my suffering didn’t matter because I had NEVER experienced persecution, never been through struggle because I wasn’t lesbian/trans/etc. They explained to me how little I would have accomplished in life if I was LGBT. This is, at minimum, the undertone that I experience when I speak to gay people in real life. It might have something to do with age, I’m a freshman an in HS. But I know that some people probably never grow out of this phase. I’m posting this to a few subs to get support and help me fix this before it becomes an actual issue and belief in me.

TLDR: Every LGT(not so much of an issue with gay men) person of met in real life has had special snowflake syndrome, and I can’t begin to vent about my problems with them without them trying to one up it. It’s starting to build hate and resentment in me.

Dave Blount #homophobia #biphobia #transphobia #enbyphobia moonbattery.com

[From “Bethesda Public School Recruits 11–12-Year-Olds Into LGBTism”]

Where moonbats have been allowed to dominate it, education is not about education; it is about moonbattery. This includes introducing prepubescent children to sexual depravity:

A Maryland middle school presented a slideshow to 6th graders celebrating “Transgender Awareness Week” where the children were given a lesson that included “advice for coming out” and “8 tips for being nonbinary”

This time it isn’t Baltimore but Bethesda. Westland Middle School is a public school financed by taxpayers

Indoctrination included “a video that was produced by the LGBT educational resource provider Pop’n’Olly.” In no sane world would an “LGBT educational resource provider” be allowed to target children

The presentation attempted to confuse children by making them question whether they are boys are girls. It instructed them on the use of alternative pronouns and how to “bind” to suppress normal physical development

The last slide of the presentation informs students that they can attend meetings for “Westland’s LGBTQ+ Club” called “SAGA,” which stands for “Sexuality and Gender Acceptance”

Education has been replaced by recruitment

On a tip from Jack D

Furyus George #homophobia iidb.org

Homosexuals assert that they are 'born' homosexual. If true, this is obviously some sort of defective genetic mutation... Further, since homosexuals, by nature, cannot reproduce, which aids in the survival of the species, why should any rights be granted them period?

hisarcher19 #homophobia hisarcher19.deviantart.com

As the title implies, I'm going to look at the "gay-rights" arguments that really scrape the bottom of the barrel. I hope that whatever side of the debate your on, you can agree that these arguments don't hold water. To emphasize this, I'm going to try to sound as neutral as possible.

1. Separation of Church and State is in the Constitution. So you can't use Christian morality to outlaw same-sex marriage.

This argument stems from a misunderstanding of what Separation of Church and State is. The phrase appears nowhere in the Constitution. It was in a letter from Thomas Jefferson to a church that was worried Jefferson would force his Deism on the churches. Jefferson assured them the first amendment would protect their freedom. So the question is, what does the first amendment do? It prevents the government from establishing a state religion. Outlawing same-sex marriage does not establish a religion. It doesn't force anyone to become a Christian anymore than it forces them to be Jewish, Muslim, Mormon or any other faith that sees homosexuality as sin. Also, it doesn't prevent anyone from using their religion to motivate their politics. If you truly believe your religion, it should influence your decisions or you should consider if you truly believe it or not. You want real Separation of Church and State? How about having the government butt out of marriage entirely since it finds its origin in religion and different religions have different views of marriage anyway (e.g. Islam and some forms of Mormonism permit polygamy.)

2. The way things are, the LGBT community are 2nd class citizens.

No they aren't. They have the same rights everyone else does. Including marriage. To elaborate, a homosexual can marry someone of the opposite sex, but not someone of the same sex. And a heterosexual can marry someone of the opposite sex, but not the same sex. We have equal rights. The LGBT goal would make more sense if they asked for a new right since the equality they ask for already exist.

3. It's unconstitutional to out-law same-sex marriage since marriage is a right.

Marriage is not a right, it's a privilege. If you read the Constitution you'd know that. And again, my previous points stand.

4. Homosexuality is accepted by the majority as normal and thus, no longer immoral.

First off, I doubt the claim at the majority support it since most states ban same-sex marriage and (as of this writing) only 17 states allow it. Last I checked, 17 out of 50 was not a majority. Second, even if that was true, to say that the population decides right and wrong is insane at best and dangerous at worst. There was a time when slavery was considered acceptable by many. Years before even that it was common for people to rape the women of the country they conquered. Was any of this right? (Rhetorical question. If you answer "yes", please see a therapist.) To quote Leo Tolstoy:
Wrong doesn't cease to be wrong because the majority share in it.-Leo Tolstoy
5. People are born homosexual, so it would be wrong to not allow them what they want.

Some scientists speculate the same thing about alcoholics, drug-addicts and sociopaths. Does that make what they do right? (Again, a rhetorical question.) If this were true, these conditions would be more like diseases. But as someone I know (who was an alcoholic) put it, what he did wasn't totally involuntary. He chose to get drunk just as he chose to stop and ultimately kick alcoholic beverages out of his life all together. Just as people have left the LGBT lifestyle.

6. What about infertile couples? They can't have children either and your Bible says marriage is for having babies.

This argument is a reply to oft-quoted argument against same-sex marriage by pointing out that same-sex couples can't naturally produce a child. There counterpoint, however, is a strawman. This may shock some people, but the Bible says sex (in wedlock) was not only for child rearing but for pleasure. It was designed to be a beautiful experience... then humanity ruined it like everything else. Proof? Song of Songs. :iconnuffsaidplz: Besides, homosexual behavior causes serious health problem. HIV being only a tip of the ice-berg. An infertile couple is still natural and, as long as they are being responsible and faithful, they won't contract STDs.

7. People used religion (i.e. Christianity) to justify not letting interracial couples marriage.

Those people were also stupid. The Bible is shown to be very anti-racist, including having interracial couples (like Ruth and Boaz.) And another thing, PLEASE stop equating what you do to the way other people look. It's nonsensical at best and insensitive at worst.
For more info, click here: townhall.com/columnists/michae—
8. If you don't support the LGBT, you're homophobic!

You keep using that word. I don't think it means what you think it means.- Inigo Montoya, "The Princess Bride."
Furthermore, if someone was in a lifestyle that was harmful wouldn't you try to convince them out of it? We do this with alcoholics, why not homosexuals? Especially since homosexual behavior brings damage that makes alcoholic damage look miniscule. Frankly, I could argue I love and care for them more than those who try to push for this behavior.

9. Legalizing gay marriage won't affect anyone.

I think the redefinition of mankind's oldest and most important institution would affect everyone. Also, some LGBT advocates agree it is to affect everyone as to make people stop viewing homosexuality negatively. Now I know some of you are saying, "Not THAT kind of effect." Sinful acts never just affect one or two people, it often affects whole communities and even countries. Achan's sin in Joshua 7, and David's sin in 2 Samuel 24 are a couple good examples. As for some modern examples, Spain and Argentina have greatly deteriorated the family structure ever since same-sex marriage was allowed. In the Netherlands, there is a decline in marriage rates even though same-sex marriage is allowed. To help explain my point (on this topic and others), I recommend the book "Homosexuality ad the Truth of Politics." Now before you shoot this down as biased, there are LGBT advocates that agree with this book. In fact, the leader of H.O.P.E. (Homosexuals Oppose Pride Extremism) wishes that this book was required reading in schools!

Also, this journal explains the problems of same-sex parenting.


Any thoughts? Do you agree? If not, why? Did I miss any? Leave your thoughts in the comments and please act like an adult.

empathicdesigns #homophobia #fundie #wingnut empathicdesigns.livejournal.com

(poster note: hey look who I found while lurking on livejournal, its our favourite bigot mark! seems like he tried moving to livejournal after his deviantart ban)

Pride Month.

Pride of an (assumed innate) attribute; like being proud of having red hair; although, I have known several women who identified as 'lesbian' and are now in long term relationships with men. Heh.

Though the LGBT uses the Stonewall Riots as an excuse to claim their 'Pride', millions of homosexual individuals were never present at the riots nor have endured any discrimination or hate, or have suffered any form of insecurity to their homosexuality. So, considering this, should these individuals claim 'Pride'? Of course not. Just because you fall into a group, does not mean you are every bit a part of it.

But of course, 'Pride' is also about 'Overcoming' the 'Hate' and 'Discrimination' and 'Bullying'. Really? When does a person not endure hate, discrimination and bullying? Never. These matters follow us all; all throughout our lives, so this is not a valid excuse either.

However, there is a lot more to talk about in regards to the LGBT and their 'Pride'.

How about Pederasty; In ancient Greece, it was a socially acknowledged romantic relationship between an adult male and a pubescent or adolescent boy. That's pedophilia.

Is the LGBT proud of its pedophilic origins? It should be; it was socially accepted and is historically evident, and the LGBT should want for acceptance.

Catamites; In ancient Rome, a catamite was a pubescent boy who was the intimate companion of a young man. Socially accepted, socially normal for homosexuals.

Benny Johnson #crackpot #homophobia #wingnut youtube.com

[From "I Got Piers Morgan to Say ‘The F-Word’ LIVE On Air After VIRAL Tucker Interview: ‘I’ll Say It…’ "]

JOHNSON: [...] I don't go to England often, but I've grown up thinking that an English word for a cigarette is a "fag". Is that correct?

MORGAN: Right. [...]

JOHNSON: So is that a hate crime?

MORGAN: A "faggot" if you use it about a food stuff, which it is in parts of England, is not offensive at all. It's only when you use it against gay people that it's deemed to be a homophobic slur.

JOHNSON: But then aren't you [...] implying intent as though like the law somehow like understands how someone is using a word and the laws ... like aren't you playing God, then, in this situation?

MORGAN: Yeah, I think so. And of course in America all of this none of this makes any sense. [...]

Truth Offends #fundie #homophobia barbwire.com

In America, homosexuals are NOT being discriminated against.
There is NO good reason to elevate homosexuals (the most celebrated group of people in America today) by giving them special protection against discrimination–something that does not exist!
The only purpose I can see for elevating homosexuals by adding “sexual orientation” to the list of enumerated groups contained in anti-discrimination laws is to mandate government enforcement of anti-Christian bigotry.

VannesteLand #homophobia #fundie #wingnut deviantart.com

If there’s one thing I feel world could use, it would be an animated project which takes a comedic, albeit politically incorrect jab at the excessive, stick-out-like-a-sore-thumb LGBT+ content in today’s children’s and teen’s animation especially with what’s going on at Cartoon Network and with Netflix’s She-Ra. It’s not that I have anything against the LGBT+ community or the people part of it, I’m just very resentful of it being put into children’s media, be it a cartoon or not.

Tucker Carlson #homophobia #crackpot facebook.com

We've decoded the human genome. We can tell you where the gene for eye color comes from. Where's the gay gene?
Maybe there is a gay gene, by the way. Lots of things we haven't decoded yet. Maybe it's there.
Are you looking for it? Are you trying to answer this question? No. The whole game is to make you be quiet, ashamed, because that's something to do with sex. And what are you, a creep focused on sex? You're obsessed with gay sex. You're obsessed with Israel? No. Actually not. But you're way up in my face about it. And so I think it's fair to ask you a couple of very simple, straightforward questions. Foundational questions like, what is this? Where does it come from? Why is it good? Why is being gay better than not being gay?
And if it's not 100% genetic—clearly it isn't, if you had a 300% increase in ten years, probably not genetic. Unless our genetics are changing at lightning speed, unless evolution is a much faster process than Darwin ever reckoned.
Watch the full monologue here: https://watchtcn.co/3Teik9x

Lauren Witzke & various commenters #wingnut #homophobia gab.com

( Lauren Witzke )
With Gay Marriage on its way to the Supreme Court- it’s time for everyone to face the dark truth of the horrors that Obergefell v. Hodges brought us.

Less than 10 years after legalization, homosexuals were adopting, raping, and prostituting their adopted children. Drag queens were holding “story time” and exposing themselves to little toddlers at the local library, and now, homosexuals are breeding their own victims through surrogacy.

Do you honestly think it’s going to get any better?

This story made headlines.. but has anyone actually read the horrific details of what this gay couple did to those poor little boys?

“One of the couple's friends told police that Zachary once shared images of one of the boys being abused on Snapchat and wrote, "I'm going to f*** my son tonight. Stand by”.

This perversion knows no boundaries, and America opened the floodgates by removing the restrictions that legalized gay marriage.

It’s time to repair what’s broken and put homosexuals back in the closet.
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spoilerGay Couple In US Get 100
Years In Prison For Raping
Their Adopted Sons

( @Mr1861 )
@LaurenWitzkeDE we don’t need prison sentences … we need burial pits and Einsatzkommando …

( @Oujutom )
@LaurenWitzkeDE
Whomever lets a gay couple adopt children must be hung.

( @MelvinFrohike )
@LaurenWitzkeDE All sodomites belong in prison mental wards, for life.

( @SiriusTiberius )
@LaurenWitzkeDE LBGTQ+ should NOT be able to Adopt--PERIOD!!!

Further PROOF of Mental Illness! Same-Sex canNOT co-create--PERIOD!!!

All Hell has broken loose! All Hell has manifested its UGLINESS across America and the World!!!

Day of Reckoning fast approaches! Just like in the days of Noah. A purging is on the horizon!!!

( @Chrislou )
@LaurenWitzkeDE those fuckers need to be thrown off a roof. Hopefully someone will kill those fags in prison

[...]

( @Mr1861 )
@MotherMcD @LaurenWitzkeDE You know how homos procreate? They groom and “turn” someone else, typically someone very young and vulnerable. There are no “keep to myself” homos.

( @Tertul )
@LaurenWitzkeDE The Left's homosexual marriage victory in society led us to trans rights and even more abused children.

Lady Checkmate #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

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Image says: “Yes, I am a Christian. I believe in the Bible. I do not support homosexuality or “homosexual marriage”. Yes, I still love you. Yes, we are still friends. No, I am not judging you. No, I am not condemning you to hell. No, I will not let anyone bully you. But realize that name-calling and stereotyping those of us who stand for what we believe is exactly what you don’t want done to you. We have a right to speak what we believe, same as you have a right to speak what you believe.”

Victor Cardiss #homophobia premier.org.uk

This is your trump card. You think people who don't accept the homosexual lifestyle are filled with hatred but you're wrong.
I know several Mums and Dads who have been very supportive of the son's and daughters who have decided to live out their homosexual lifestyle.
These parents would never say anything negative because they fear being branded and despised as 'Homophobic' (namecalling)
When those Parents are alone they weep because the expectations they had for their offspring has been destroyed. They are bullied by political correctness to accept whatever lifestyle choices their children make but inside they are hurting beyond measure. They are breathless with panic because the aspirations of being a family now rely on them accepting the unacceptable.
You don't love your parents you hate them. If you loved them you would accept that they can reject your lifestyle but they still love you beyond measure.
The next time your parents tell you that they really do acknowledge and accept your lifestyle choices (no, honestly we're alright with it... No we're not just saying it we really back your decisions.... Trust us we love you and are on your side)
You rotten selfish bullies have just broken your parents hearts but if they told you that they know what a temper tantrum you'll have.
Don't point the finger at me and shout your vile accusations... My concern is for your immortal soul not for the selfish lifestyle that will soon be over.

Xeru #homophobia battledawn.com

Basically, if you cede homosexuals the right to marry, it turns into a slippery slope.


It's not what giving homosexuals the right to marry that's the problem. It's what giving homosexuals the right to marry represents. It represents that our society has become one that supports and tolerates something that is against biology, against the fundamental parts of being a human, tolerates something that natural selection has weeded out a long time ago and for good reason, tolerates something that is, on all levels, wrong.

I am not religious. But I will not tolerate something that runs contrary to the basic functions to the human race. If we endorse homosexuality, we open the freedom to bestiality, to polygamy, to incest. THAT is UNTHINKABLE. The legalization of same-sex marriage will be used as precedence to legalize marriage in that respect, and so, it follows logically, if you advocate for same-sex marriage, you advocate for polygamy, for beastiality, for incest legalization. Do you really?

Society is not prepared to accept homosexuality. How do I know this? you ask. Well, quite simply, the fact that same-sex marriage is not legal is perfect evidence.

Marriage is between a man and a woman. Period. That is the way the law writes it, and quite frankly, the law does not need to be agreed with. Humanity has survived quite adequately for millennia without homosexuality, so your "stagnant society" argument holds no water.

Once again, I am okay with putting all of the homosexuals away from society and letting them do whatever. But by allowing them to marry, I allow them into my society, into a society that does not wish for them to be there. Violence from religious group follows. Allowing homosexuals into society will only ensue instability. But even on a smaller scale, same-sex marriage enables homosexual couples to receive the same benefits that heterosexual couples receive. They should not receive equal treatment, at least in the same system.

Aister, you miss an ultimate question. Why do homosexuals fight for the right to marry? Because they want to force themselves unto society.

tl;dr, my main arguments
Slippery Slope
Society is not prepared to accept homosexuals, and the legalization of marriage will allow homosexuals to force themselves onto society.
Heck, it's just wrong.

Being with someone you love is not against the law. Wanting to marry a person of the same gender is. I'll admit freely--while I can see where religion comes from, where racial attitudes comes from, I do not understand homosexuality. At all. And the fact that it causes many people in society qualms because the sight of a man cuddling with another man is quite frankly disgusting means that it is thus indecent.

Edmund_Kemper #sexist #homophobia #crackpot incels.is

[Serious] If you are attracted to post-wall old hags, you’re probably gay/bisexual

Middle aged old hags look like men with wigs and makeup. They have rough skin and wrinkles and aren’t very thin. As a result their skin is rough and makes them look manly. They look manlier than guys in their 20s. If you are attracted to middle aged hags you probably are gay/bisexual as a result

straight men are attracted to young adult foids, NOT post-wall hags

xSUCKxMYxTOESx #homophobia reddit.com

I’d say because there’s that many fucking pride rallies and the society is changing just for them. It’s getting annoying. I don’t care if you’re gay, you don’t care if I’m straight. I prefer humble people over people that are the opposite

jonathan #homophobia answers.yahoo.com

[in response to whether or not homosexuality is a choice]

Is bestiality a lifestyle choice? No, and neither is homosexuality. Your desires from homosexuality stem from being abused as a child, or demonic spirits working in your life.

Conservapedia #crackpot #dunning-kruger #homophobia conservapedia.com

Baseball

Baseball, dubbed the American "National Pasttime" in 1856 (before the American Civil War), is an outdoor sport played between two teams of nine players each, whereby the winning team is the one that scores the most "runs". A run occurs when a player rounds the bases without being tagged out, but while allowed to stop at one of the three intermediate bases in between plays. Each play consists of a pitcher throwing the ball towards home plate, where a batter attempts to strike it with a bat in the batter's attempt to hit the ball where no fielder can catch it or pick it up and throw it to the first baseman before the batter is able to run to first base.

Baseball is considered "timeless" and is unique in not being based on a timer. Games end after nine innings in professional baseball, no matter how long that takes, or after extra innings until a tie in the number of runs is broken after a full extra inning.

Virtually no professional baseball players are homosexual, which suggests that the repetitive playing of this sport tends to encourage heterosexual rather than homosexual proclivities.

Baseball has been intertwined within American life and culture like no other sport has. It has given us record-setting heroes, many of which are still talked about over a century later. It has given rise to movies, songs, books, magazines, and a lexicon of words and phrases which are part of everyday life. Extremely popular within the United States, Japan, and Latin America, baseball is played everywhere from neighborhood sandlots and city streets to its culmination in a best-of-seven championship World Series between two professional teams of the American and National Leagues of Major League Baseball.

David J. Stewart #fundie #homophobia jesus-is-savior.com

Homosexuality ought not be allowed to exist in our country. It should be banned and punished by law, as it used to be a century ago. In many countries it is still a capital offense, as it was in Old Testament Israel. Lesbians and gays ought not be permitted to marry, let alone pastor churches. I am so glad that God's Word and every Bible-preaching Christian will be vindicated in eternity. The days of gay-rights are numbered. Job 20:4-5, “Knowest thou not this of old, since man was placed upon earth, That the triumphing of the wicked is short, and the joy of the hypocrite but for a moment?” If I were a king, I'd ban homosexuality! I'd ban abortion! I'd ban gossip! I'd ban booze! I'd ban immodest dress! I'd eradicate television and the internet from existence!

themuzicman #homophobia theologyweb.com

What I am implying is that by forcing homosexuality into the 'norm', homosexuals have opened the door for a multitude of other abnormal behaviors, including pedophilia. And if you think it could never happen, it was accepted practice in greece for a LONG time. I'm sure you're proud to help out your NAMBLA brethren.

aCultureWarrior #homophobia theologyonline.com

I kinda feel sorry for those "home grown-clean living" homosexuals that you constantly talk about Al, as this information is giving them a bad reputation. I just wish that a "home grown-clean living" homosexual would come forward and tell us that there is no promiscuity, no violence, no misery in his and whathisname's long term (3 week) relationship.

Gosh, if Chuck were here he'd tell us that the only violence in his relationship is the knife that's going to be taken to his boyfriend's genital area by a quack of a doctor.

aCultureWarrior #fundie #homophobia #forced-birth theologyonline.com

[aCultureWarrior has a bit of a meltdown and discusses me and my partner]

Well then, I guess besides being a lying (or to paraphrase annabenedettttti 'LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!') coward, who is a closet fag that molests children, I'm also a adulterer.

Wait, I forgot something:

'and and and I'm pro choice too!'

That being said, I'm certain that the drag queen homosexual who is engaged to a man that plans on having genital mutilation surgery to become a woman, is sitting back in his pantyhose and hi heels smiling knowing that there are Christians out there that believe he has some kind of "right" to teach America's children, to work in daycare facilities, or to mentor youth in the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, or the rest of the long list of youth mentor organizations that have allowed openly (i.e. proud and unrepentant) homosexuals into their organizations.

aCultureWarrior #homophobia theologyonline.com

I am a HETEROSEXUAL man and I don't molest little girls/teenage ones, or anyone for that matter.

Sigh, now if only a HOMOSEXUAL male would come forward and tell us that he doesn't buggerize little boys/teenage boys or anyone for that matter, showing us that he is not like homosexual icons Harry Hay, Frank Kameny, David Thorstadt, Harvey Milk , Peter Tatchell, etc. etc. etc.

Who will be the first to come forward?

Random-animezing #homophobia random-animezing.tumblr.com

Some characters have no stated canon orientation like Elsa from Frozen . She never displays any kind of sexual/romantic attraction or interest to anybody of either gender. Her orientation is never stated either

That was kind of what I was getting at with the whole, “that’s just the label fans project onto them…[writers and fans] are getting less skillful and more out-of-touch with the intricacies of conversation and nonverbal human interaction while simultaneously getting caught up in identity checklists in just about everything they touch” thing.

You shouldn’t have to have it directly stated and spoon-fed to you, nor is it remotely healthy to be so concerned about a cartoon character’s sexuality. Go outside, get a hobby or skill, and quit sending me these stupid comments. They’re a colossal pain in the ass.


Most people–and most characters–are straight. Get over it. If you have to be told that, you need to seek professional help.

Inzl Kett #fundie #homophobia theologyonline.com

[in regards to me after I said "I'm far too good, decent, kind, and moral of a person to be associated with you, Nick, SD, or Jesus."]

His pride stands in the way of his repenting. Atheism is very common among homosexuals. Why? Because it is a worldview that does not require accountability. There is no god in atheism for the Atheist to answer to but himself, the perfect set up for a person who's life revolves around himself.

Homosexuality is the lowest form of self love that there is. Rather, it is a self obsession. The person wants or craves a lover that is like themselves. Homosexuals are selfish by nature. They don't give a darn if their lifestyle negatively impacts children or the culture at large. It is a adoration and a worship of self. Who gives a zip about others is the philosophy behind this lifestyle. Homosexuals are selfish to the point that they even want to force acceptance of their behavior on churches and privately owned businesses.

aCultureWarrior #fundie #homophobia theologyonline.com

While public restroom sex, public park sex, bath house sex, is a huge part of the homosexual lifestyle, when I said that "they want it all", I meant that they were never content with just having deviant sex. They want so-called "rights" to marry, adopt, mentor youths, serve in the military, etc. based on an immoral, deviant yet changeable behavior.

...

Hence the "A" in the longer version of the LGBT acronym, LGTQQ&A: Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender (drag queens are part of the T by the way) Queer Questioning (for those 5 year olds that still haven't figured out their sexual "identity") and ALLIES.

The homosexual movement relies heavily on ally support. I've shown politicans that don't claim to be homosexual that have been great allies to the homosexual movement. Pride Parades (i.e. the march of the moral degenerates) have 10's of thousands of straight people that attend. Again, they are allies of the homosexual movement.

Inzl Kett #fundie #homophobia theologyonline.com

Don't you love it, when they try to equate hating sinful behavior with hating the person?

The reason why I hate homosexuality and read very carefully! It is a behavior that marks rebellion against God and rejection of His word!

Homosexuality and its attendant behaviors--crossdressing etc is worship of self. Putting oneself and sexuality ahead of God. It is the most liberal Christians that whine for special protection and rights for this indecent behavior. It's not normal and it's self destructive. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out that its harmful.

Trying the normalize this behavior and say it's OK is the most unloving thing you can do for someone trapped in this sin.

Let's use the example of the alcoholic:

Al loves his bottle. He takes it every where he goes. His freinds don't want to offend him or confront him about his getting drunk all the time. "He not hurting anyone", says his brother. Al spends all his personal time drinking. His freind even buy him wine and beer at social functions and weddings. He is even developing liver disease because of his habit. Despite this, Al manages to be sober enough in the morning to hold down his janitor's job. Now are Al's friend doing him any favors? Remember, this is a behavior pattern. It's debatable if given the right conditions that Al may have avoided this.

The truth is Al's family and friends are not doing him any favors by not getting him any help. That same is true of the homosexual. We have become a society of enablers. We enable people to live self destructive lifestyles instead of helping them deal with their sin.

aCultureWarrior #fundie #homophobia #kinkshaming theologyonline.com

You made a wise choice not to talk about the current topic Art:

What happens when homosexuals are allowed to adopt,

as child molestation is very difficult to defend.

That being said: You forgot a very important word in your mockery of Phil Robertson:

"Marry" (as in "marry them before they're 20").

As I told The Mother Hen in another thread:

What was Phil thinking? Girls should go out and experience life. Sleep around, have a few abortions, shack up with a guy or 3, and then if you think you've found the right one, marry him. Of course if that doesn't work out, there is always no fault divorce and you can go your own separate ways with no questions asked.

Sounds like a pretty good alternative to marrying at a younger age, having children, and being faithful to your spouse (and God) for the rest of your life doesn't it Art?

Declan Finn #homophobia #sexist #ableist #pratt declanfinn.substack.com

Hollywood can also stop with tHe MeSs@g3. Does every action hero have to be Keanu Reeves? No. But I’m not going to believe that the fat gay black woman is going to drop the seven foot body builder.10 I will not accept waif fu unless we’re in comic books or supernatural fiction. Gay folk are maybe 3% of the population, I don’t need them to be 50% of the characters in media. Stop turning every fantasy world into downtown Manhattan. [footnote: See … any fantasy on streaming. Sigh. No. Really.] I can go on.

You know what I saw in the theater this year? A Working Man. Why? Because I like Chuck Dixon and I wanted his film to do well.

Anonymous #transphobia #homophobia lolcow.farm

The same reason even cis gay moids sometimes give up and marry their faghags for end of life comfort. A male is parasitic. A femboy and a cis male = two males. A parasite cannot parasitize on a parasite.

Even if you weren't a delusional bricky shim and were actually a young cis woman with a dick looks wise, you are simply not a suitable host. You're a man - psychologically externalizing, unpleasant, aggressive, non-nurturing, egotistical, impulsive and devoid of self awareness - you are not equipped to absorb the impact of another male's incessant testeria. Contrary to what femboys commonly believe, you cannot anticipate another man's needs just because you're a man yourself - no man wants to deal with men's bullshit and that's the reason why there's no worse punishment for a moid than to be confined amongst other moids. It doesn't even need to be mentioned that you're a flagrantly mentally ill man, with levels of batshittery vastly exceeding standard male levels - any real life union between you and another man will blow up in mutual homicidal ideation or bug chasing within months, if not weeks.

Your meek whining on Twitter doesn't mean you're "submissive" (aka caring and self sacrificing) in the sense women are - you're just a weak, petty omega. Cishet moids grow up being coddled, first by their mommies and then by a myriad of women they're surrounded with - they know a man will deck them in the face instead of lovingly tard wrangling them for years. This is why, regrettably, a moid will always choose the ugliest possible cis woman over you.

Fai Mao #homophobia freerepublic.com

The homosexuals will tell you about a guy they know that was married with kids and one day woke up and discovered he was homosexual. They have no problem with that.

Why can’t the opposite happen?

The fag lobby is, or so it appears to me, in violation of the latest leftist bandwagon, gender fluidity.

It isn’t just homosexuals finding a religion that have this happen. The leftist mayor of Ew Yuck City, Michael Bloomberg’s wife is a former lesbian.

westNwewaxation #fundie #homophobia #quack forums.catholic.com

Yes, the first thing is to "love God with all your heart and soul", then the rest follows.

Also I just want to say that I have actually been in reparative therapy. They do not "zap you" that is kind of a reference to early attempts at therapy done I don't even know how long ago. The therapy now has evolved and (if it is not outlawed) will continue to evolve, to build upon the desire to turn toward whatever heterosexual functionality a person has (most even gay men have some) and learn creative and even pleasant ways of turning away from same-sex fantasies, and making that turning away from evil a sort of routine habit that becomes "second nature". I have heard the analogy of ruts in a dirt road applied.

The more you drive through the rut with porn or even homosexual fantasy that you voluntarily stick with and daydream about, the deeper the rut gets. But if you learn to turn away from that "rut" and stay out of it as much as possible, God can and will fill in those ruts to some extent. It is different for everyone. Some have a sort of bisexuality, others have deep-seated homosexuality to the point where they are repulsed by heterosexuality. But avoiding inappropriate sexual thoughts and filling our minds with scripture and other good thoughts is key.

Lastly I just want to say that despite all God did for them, some of the Israelites ACTUALLY DID want to return to Egypt! It's a great lesson for us.

PaulAckermann #fundie #homophobia #kinkshaming christianforums.com

[On why masturbation is a sin...]

The Bible clearly teaches homosexuality is a sin. The reason homosexuality is a sin is because God created sex between a man and a woman. Since man was not intended to give sexual pleasure to a another man, it is sin. But it is sin for a man to give sexual pleasure to another man, why would it be acceptable for a man to give sexual pleasure to himself?

Please excuse my graphical illustration here, but I think it is needed to make a point. Why would it be wrong for a man to take his hand and give me sexual pleasure with his hand, and yet it be OK for me to use my own hand to give myself sexual pleasure??? In both cases, the hand that is giving me sexual pleasure would be a man's hand!

Robert Sock #fundie #homophobia forums.catholic.com

I predict a much higher conversion rate to Christianity for homosexual Atheists than for hetrosexual Atheists, starting in the near furture. The reasoning is simple: Homosexual Atheist are going to become aware much more easily that their sexuality is based on evil spirits than will the heterosexuals. God love us all, but the Holy Spirit will lead repentant homosexuals to a much higher spirituality, analogous to the parable of the Prodigal Son.

People everywhere, especially conservative Christians, are experiencing a low morale these days, and all the more so if Clinton is elected president, but they forget that God can bring good out of evil. No matter who is elected, things are going to be just fine because we are one nation under God, and He has not abandoned us.

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Brevard Public Schools Board in Florida, Brevard Board Chair Megan Wright #homophobia #wingnut animenewsnetwork.com

(Article originally posted on Anime News Network on September 9, 2024.)

The Brevard Public Schools Board in Florida banned the first volume of Shō Harusono's Sasaki and Miyano boys-love manga from the district's school libraries during a board meeting on August 27.

A person in the district challenged the book's inclusion in the schools' libraries on the grounds that "sexual orientation should not be encouraged, suggested, or implanted" in the youth.

Yen Press publishes the series in English and describes the story:

It all started like a typical old-school boys' love plotline - bad-boy senior meets adorably awkward underclassman, one of them falls in love, and so on and so forth. But although Miyano is a self-proclaimed boys' love expert, he hasn't quite realized…he's in one himself. Which means it's up to Sasaki to make sure their story has a happily ever after…!

The complaint also included concerns children would be "exposed to age-inappropriate, obscene, explicit content" and that there was "no value in making homosexual books available at school." The book is rated for T for Teens.

The complainant suggested other manga to replace the series such as Chainsaw Man, To Your Eternity, and The Seven Deadly Sins among others.

Board Chair Megan Wright objected to the book's content due to its focus on a romantic relationship, as well as the Japanese reading format of reading the book from right-to-left.

The district's Book Review Committee had previously recommended to keep the book after determining that the book did not violate Florida's Statute 847.012, but the board voted 3-to-2 in favor of banning the book.

Bernard Lane #crackpot #dunning-kruger #elitist #homophobia #kinkshaming #sexist #transphobia twitter.com

Excerpts from a guy explaining why fan fiction turns girls Trans

“And ‘gay ships’ online, gay erotica, can provide a vector for the girl to explore relationships and sexuality with the male objects of her infatuation — without confronting all that resentment, insecurity, hatred and self-doubt that is triggered by female love interest and male-female relationships.

“When it's two men it can be very seductive, because these girls love men, and they don't want to see the women — and it's like this weird, perfect storm for them.”

“The fandom community is going to have that hierarchy — if you are a cis-het white person, you're evil, you're terrible, you're horrible, you're disgusting, you're an oppressor. But if you're trans, if you're gay, if you're not white, then you are amazing. And everybody needs to be super nice to you.

“The LGBT spectrum is really elevated in these fandom communities, partly because of that love of the male-male pairings where these girls are obsessed with the very idea of gay men. They almost think they're being pro-LGBT by sharing gay fan fiction.

“They're developing an aversion to male-female relationships. They can start to over-identify with the ‘gay ships’, in this [online 24/7] environment where there are no checks and balances on the fantasy. It's all these young girls identifying as trans together, ‘shipping the ships’ together. It's so easy to have your identity lines blurred, to start to over-identify with being a gay trans boy. And then gender ideology comes along and says, this is all a sign that deep down, you really want to be a boy.”

roc000 #homophobia imdb.com

[a review of the movie "Bruno]

Terrible Film, This was a waste of time. I'll never get that chunk of my life back, but what I can do is prevent you from wasting yours. This movie is not funny in any way, and it attempts to derive it's humor from Homosexuality, but IMO gays aren't funny they are sick/diseased. There is no cure for this disease either forcing people on the streets to be exposed to it.

If the alley is dark enough and the hour is late enough one or several of the diseased may even work up the courage to force themselves on an innocent civilian. I ask you people not to hate the homosexuals, for they cannot control themselves. Eventually people will realize this and the laws will improve. They need to be able to deal with this growing threat in an effective manner. There has got to be a way to cure this disease! Until then the only advice I can offer you people is to stay away from those you perceive as homosexual as they will not be able to control themselves around you obviously leading to some very unpleasant/unfortunate situations where they may be in a position to expose themselves to you or children.

Eventually the laws will be changed to accommodate this growing threat and the loose ones will either be lobotomized and castrated or locked up and reeducated into the hetero mindset.

Thanks for reading my review.

xxlivesmatter / ThatIconoclast #homophobia #psycho #crackpot twitter.com

@xxlivesmatter: They’re incapable of empathy (Men) They have to directly experience something to understand how it feels. They all need to experience that punishment as early as possible. Better for them to be victimized than to become victimizers

@ThatIconoclast: 95% of the time I don’t believe sexuality is a choice, not with most homosexual women at least But to ensure there’s a higher risk of a younger male turning out to be gay, he has to victimised in his developing years some way of another. The only to make sure they turn out right.