#homophobia

All about the Gay Agenda

Alex Jones #conspiracy #homophobia youtube.com

(Transscript of video)
In the interval [?] the Pentagon just tested a gay bomb on Iraq, they considered it, they didn’t [?] consider using it, they used it on our troops, in Vietnam, they sprayed PCP on our troops - Jacob’s Ladder - ha - you think PCP - some horse tranquilizers or something? They got some stuff that’ll whack your brain permanently.
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Brain chips in the troops. They give the troops special vaccines that really [?] nanotech that auto[?]-re-engineers their brains.
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Now there is the gay bomb.
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Look it up for yourself, this is what do you think tap water is, it’s a gay bomb, baby.
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And I’m not saying people didn’t naturally have homosexual feelings, I’m not even getting into it, quite frankly, give me a break. You think I… I’m, like, shocked by it [?] [incomprehensible] bashing it because I don’t like gay people. I DON’T LIKE THEM PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER! THEY TURN THE FRICKING FROGS GAY!
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Do you understand that?
Ungh! Ungh! Ungh! Ungh! [bangs paper on table]
Crap!
I’m sick of being socially engineered! It’s not funny!

Tim Wilkins #fundie #homophobia christiananswers.net

I am aware the question in this article’s title presupposes a change of some sort is necessary. My presupposition is grounded in the authority of God’s Word. Secondary to that—I am a Christian and a former homosexual.

Having now used that inadequate and puzzling term former homosexual, let me try to decipher the lingo and properly answer the question.

Moving the fridge

A story will help. A man glances out his home window and sees his neighbor. The neighbor has his pick-up truck backed to his side door, both the storm and main doors are propped open and a refrigerator blocks the doorway. Obviously the fridge is being moved and help is needed, so the friendly onlooker rushes to help his red-faced neighbor.

“Need a hand with that refrigerator, Fred?” asks Steven as he throws himself into the task. “Sure do! This thing weighs more than I thought!”

Fred and Steven throw their muscular arms around the appliance. With sweat rolling down their faces, they grunt and strain as the fridge moves a quarter of an inch then stops. They reposition their arms. The fridge barely sways even though both men are winded. After wrestling with the stubborn refrigerator for a full ten minutes, Steven gasps “Fred, I don’t believe we’re ever going to get this thing in the house.” “In the house!” exclaims Fred, “I’m trying to get it in the truck!”

The point is apparent—without a clear and focused understating of what direction the homosexual needs to go, he will progress no further than the refrigerator.

What needs to change?

An illustration will help. Imagine a very thin lady seated at a dinner table. She fidgets with her food, spoons it from one side of her plate to the other, eats little if anything, then excuses herself from the table.

“How can a visibly gaunt woman eat so little or not at all?”, we ask. Our observation could lead us to two premises—either she dislikes food or she is not hungry. If we accept the first premise—that she dislikes food—our sympathetic approach might include a variety of recommendations.

We inquire about the type of food she does like—maybe fast food, Mexican or Chinese. If not perhaps the immaculate look of a seven-course meal appeals to her appetite. Perchance she prefers her food prepared a certain way—broiled versus fried, rare versus well done. If none of these recommendations help, she could have sitophobia—a fear of food.

Let’s now assume the second premise—that she is not hungry. If this suspicion is true she may be suffering from a malfunctioning metabolism. We make a doctor’s appointment for her. The physician suspects a thyroid condition and orders blood work. And it’s possible she has hypogeusia—a diminished sense of taste.

But as persistent as we’ve been, all approaches make little difference in this lady’s eating habits, or lack thereof. She eats very little and infrequently! Our methods have been genuine, compassionate, and justifiable. We have devoted considerable time in our quest to correct the dilemma, but to no avail.

The puzzle comes together

However, if we learn this woman is anorexic, our approach changes dramatically and immediately. We realize our initial assumptions and strategies are ludicrous and laughable because they do not bear on the primary issue—a distorted self image.

When this self-starved lady looks in the mirror she sees an obese lady looking back and no amount of persuasion will convince her otherwise.

When this primary issue is addressed, her food intake as well as the frequency of her eating increases. But take note—her increased eating is a byproduct of confronting the main issue—a distorted self-image. And I use the term image not only from a clinical perspective but a biblical one. Genesis 1:26-27 reads,

“And God said, ‘Let us make man in our image, after our likeness’, So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.” (Emphasis added)

Now the analogy

How does this illustration apply to the homosexual condition? Just as it is absurd for the anorexic’s family and friends to focus on trying to make her eat, so it is absurd for churches to try and make the homosexual heterosexual.

Society in general and churches in particular mistakenly believe freedom from homosexuality is marrying, having 2.3 children and a dog in the back yard. A 2001 secular study on the possibility of change shows the depth of this ingrained “doctrine.” Dr Robert Spitzer, a Columbia University professor interviewed men and women who said they used to be homosexual; I was one of many he questioned. As beneficial as his study was and as much as I appreciate the visibility it gave to change, his study measured heterosexual function of the former homosexual—again missing the real issue.

“But” you ask, “don’t homosexuals need to become heterosexuals?” No! Scripture never states nor implies all people must be heterosexual; it does say explicitly, however, that we are to avoid all forms of sexual immorality, which includes homosexuality. With that in mind have we not at times given the impression that homosexuals must “convert” to heterosexuality? Jesus did not say “Go and make [heterosexuals]”; He said “go and make disciples.”

The opposite of homosexuality is holiness
“But” you ask, “isn’t heterosexuality the opposite of homosexuality?” No! The opposite of homosexuality is holiness!

As I wrote earlier, the term former homosexual is inadequate if not inappropriate. We mistakenly think a person who has found freedom from same-sex attractions is now heterosexual. The former homosexual man or woman may now experience heterosexual feelings, but heterosexuality should never be his nor the churches’ goal. Heterosexuality is in many cases, but not all, a byproduct of the homosexual’s dealing with the primary issues—a distorted self-image and faulty thinking—both of which Satan uses to “gain control.”

Singleness is not a sin, immorality is
The church will do well to remember that singleness is not a sin, immorality is.

What all this means is that most of churches’ advice to the homosexual misses the mark entirely!

Advice well-meant, but wrong

Telling an adult gay son “you just need to date more; you haven’t met the right girl” is senseless. Suggesting your lesbian friend “marry, settle down and everything will work out” is imprudent. Many gay men and women have married, thinking marriage will “heal” them and in most cases the consequences have been disastrous.

Some, hopefully not Christians, suggest a gay man “find a woman who can make you a man.” While I’ve never heard a Christian give such advice, I did have a twenty-seven year old gay man share the following with me. He said he was fifteen when his “Christian” father learned of his homosexual struggle. To “help” his son the father bought him a subscription to Playboy magazine. That’s equivalent to serving roast duck to the anorexic.

God does not heal one form of immorality with another form of immorality! How effective is a machine gun against a tidal wave?

“For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms” (Eph. 6:12).

One married struggler told me his well-meaning pastor recommended he have more sex with his wife. Although the Bible does command conjugal rights (I Cor. 7:3-4), the pastor’s advice bypassed the real issue.

Another pastor prayed with an unusually handsome and struggling man, then told him “I’ve got a really nice girl in the church I want you to meet.”

A Christian friend who knows my testimony, met my wife Lisa and said “I can see why you left homosexuality; your wife is beautiful.” While he is correct that Lisa is beautiful, his statement, like so many, represents a global ignorance on the subject. If attractive women were the remedy for male homosexuality, there would be no gay men.

Many gay men ask me how to cultivate a romantic/sexual attraction to women. I tell them that is not the issue; the issue is a distorted/broken image. (I have often thought how devious our adversary is. He not only confuses men and women regarding their sexual identity, he also confuses them and the church as to what healing really is, thus compounding the problem.)

By dealing with the primary issue, gay men begin to see themselves as masculine and lesbians begin to see themselves as feminine; the same-sex attractions diminish and in many cases opposite-sex attractions occur.

Not a means to an end

During my own journey out of homosexuality I made a significant discovery—Jesus Christ is not a means to an end. He is the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. I did not go to Christ to get something else, namely heterosexuality. I went to Christ to get HIM!

When we learn this truth, we will witness prison doors falling off their hinges and chains disintegrating.

Christian Answers #fundie #homophobia christiananswers.net

The issue of homosexual behavior has had a lot of publicity of late. Homosexuals say that the slaves have been freed and women have been liberated, so gay rights are long overdue. Society does seem to be moving in that direction. Many homosexuals are “coming out” and openly declaring their homosexuality. In many parts of the western world, homosexual couples receive the same recognition as heterosexual couples with regard to social security benefits. Some church leaders are giving their blessing to homosexual relationships, homosexual church members and even homosexual ministers.

Many homosexuals’ claim that

They are made that way.

Homosexuality is of no harm to the participants or to anyone else.

If it feels right to those involved, it is nobody else’s business.

Homosexual relationships and heterosexual relationships are equally valid. (Some even claim that the Bible condones homosexual relationships.)

Made that way?

Since other groups who have been discriminated against (such as women, blacks and the disabled) have been given equal opportunity, homosexuals claim that they, too, should be liberated. However, as one Christian expert has said

“Gender, race and impairment all relate to what a person is, whereas homosexuality relates to what a person does.”1

In contrast, homosexuals claim that scientific studies have shown that there is a biological basis for homosexuality.

Three main studies are cited by “gay rights” activists in support of their argument2Hamer’s X-chromosome research,3 LeVay’s study of the hypothalamus,4 and Bailey and Pillard’s study of identical twins who were homosexuals.5

In all three cases, the researchers had a vested interest in obtaining a certain outcome because they were homosexuals themselves. More importantly, their studies did not stand up to scientific scrutiny by other researchers. Also, “the media typically do not explain the methodological flaws in these studies, and they typically oversimplify the results.”6 There is no reliable evidence to date that homosexual behavior is determined by a person’s genes.

To the extent that biological or social factors may contribute to a person’s bent toward homosexual behavior, this does not excuse it. Some people have a strong bent towards stealing or abuse of alcohol, but they still choose to engage or not engage in this behavior and the law rightly holds them accountable.

The final report of the Baptist Union of Western Australia (BUWA) Task Force on Human Sexuality states “that a person becomes a homosexual ultimately by choosing to be involved in same-sex activity— This is in contrast to innate characteristics such as gender and ethnicity.”7 The report affirms that “the Bible is clear that sin involves choice, and it unequivocally condemns homosexual behavior as sin.”7

The foundational teaching on marriage and sexual issues is found in Genesis chapters 1 and 2. When Jesus was questioned about marriage, He referred to these 2 chapters (Matthew 19:1-12; Mark 10:1-12). Genesis teaches us that “male and female He created them” (Genesis 1:27). We were created to a plan, male and female complementing each other. That is, God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve, nor Madam and Eve.

Genesis also teaches that God instituted and designed marriage between a man and a woman (Genesis 2:18-25). There are a number of reasons why He did so.

The complementary structure of the male and female anatomy is obviously designed for the normal husband-wife relationships. Clearly, design in human biology supports heterosexuality and contradicts homosexuality.

The combination of male and female enables man (and the animals) to produce and nurture offspring as commanded in Genesis 1:28 “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth.” This command is repeated to Noah after the Flood (Genesis 8:15-17).

But procreation is not the only reason God made humans as sexual beings. The BUWA report affirms “that sexual intimacy between husband and wife is good, and is intended by God for bonding, pleasure and procreation.”7

Thirdly, God gave man and woman complementary roles in order to strengthen the family unit. Woman was to be the helper that man needed (Genesis 2:18). However, the woman’s role as the helpmate is certainly not an inferior one. The enterprising, God-fearing woman in Proverbs 31:10-31 is an inspiring role model.

No harm?

Andrew Lansdown points out that “homosexual activity is notoriously disease-prone. In addition to diseases associated with heterosexual promiscuity, homosexual actions facilitate the transmission of anal herpes, hepatitis B, intestinal parasites, Kaposi’s Sarcoma and AIDS.”1 Research on the life expectancy of a group of homosexual men in Canada in the early 1990s indicated that they could expect 8-21 years less lifespan than other men.8

Effect on others

Secular psychologists assure us that “children raised in lesbian and gay households are similar to children raised in heterosexual households on characteristics such as intelligence, development, moral judgments, self-concepts, social competence and gender identity.”6 The humanists have, however, forgotten one important ingredient.

“Train up a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it” (Proverbs 22:6).

You cannot faithfully teach God’s Word to your children while living a lifestyle specifically condemned by God’s Word. All Christians are sinners forgiven by God’s grace, but living in a homosexual relationship constitutes habitual, unrepented sin.

Nobody else’s business?

Gay activists claim that homosexual activity is nobody’s business other than those involved in the relationship. However, this is not true. God, our Designer and Creator, has authority over all aspects of our lives. He makes the rules, and He quite specifically forbids homosexual behavior.

“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination” (Leviticus 18:22; see also Leviticus 20:13).

Disobedience of such a clear command indicates rejection of God’s authority.

Some people argue that the Old Testament law (including Leviticus 18 and 20) was superseded with the coming of Christ. However, we should at least consider as binding those aspects of the law that are renewed in the New Testament. The teaching of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 was certainly reaffirmed in the New Testament.

Equally valid?

Some people claim that homosexual behavior was only condemned in the Bible because it was associated with idolatry (e.g., 1 Kings 14:24). However, it is clearly condemned apart from idolatry as well (e.g,. Leviticus 18:22). It is described in Scripture as an unnatural, immoral perversion.

“For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature. Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another—” (Romans 1:26-27).

The Greek word arsenokoitai used in 1 Timothy 1:10 literally means “men who sleep with men.” It is the same Greek word used for “homosexual offender” in 1 Corinthians 6:9, variously translated as “abusers of themselves with mankind” (KJV), homosexuals (NASB) or homosexual offender (NIV).

Some people claim that the sin involved in Sodom was rejecting hospitality customs or selfishness rather than homosexual behavior. Certainly, the outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah was great and their reported sin was grievous to God (Genesis 18:20). God sent angels to Sodom and—

“Now before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both old and young, all the people from every quarter, surrounded the house. And they called to Lot and said to him, Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have sex with them” (Genesis 19:4-5).

“While it is true that the Hebrew word yadha does not necessarily mean ‘to have sex with,’ nonetheless in the context of Sodom and Gommorah, it clearly had this meaning. —It means ‘to know sexually’ in this very chapter when Lot refers to his two daughters not having “known” a man (19:8).”9 You would not offer virgins to appease a mob if their sin was lack of hospitality, but only if their desire was sexual.

Although Ezekiel 16:49 condemns Sodom for its selfishness with regard to poverty, etc., this does not contradict its condemnation for homosexual practices. “The very next verse of Ezekiel (verse 50) calls their sin an ‘abomination.’ This is the same Hebrew word used to describe homosexual sins in Leviticus 18:22.”10

It is also used in Scripture to describe such things like the practice of offering children to Moloch, but never such things as mere selfishness or lack of hospitality. Even in legal parlance, the word used to refer to one aspect of homosexual practice is ‘sodomy.’

Another argument is that Jonathon and David were homosexuals as “Jonathan loved David” (1 Sam. 18:3), that Jonathan stripped in David’s presence (18:4), [and] that they kissed each other (20:41).11

However, “David’s love for Jonathan was not sexual (erotic) but a friendship (philic) love. And Jonathan did not strip himself of all his clothes, but only of his armor and royal robe (1 Sam. 18:4).”12 Also, a kiss was a normal greeting in that day, such as when Judas kissed Jesus. In several cultures today, men normally greet each other with a kiss, too. Further, David’s love for his wives, especially Bathsheba (2 Samuel 11), clearly reveals his heterosexual orientation.

Isaiah 56:3 states that eunuchs will not be excluded from God’s presence (“my temple”), but practicing homosexuals are not eunuchs. Eunuchs have no sexual relations at all.

Other Scriptural arguments for homosexuality can similarly be easily refuted. It is clear that heterosexual marriage is the only form of marriage sanctioned in the Bible and that homosexual practice is always condemned.

[See: What does the Bible say about same sex marriages? Answer]

Punishment

The Bible not only describes homosexual behavior as detestable, but it also calls for the punishment of those involved (Leviticus 20:13). Their unrepentant attitude caused God to destroy Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 19:24-25).

Just as homosexual conduct has been punished in the past, so it will also be punished by God in the future.

“—Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God” (1 Corinthians 6:9-10).

Hope

However, there is hope for the homosexual. God forgives and cleanses a person who repents and turns from their sin, including the sin of homosexual behavior (1 Corinthians 6:11). As well as forgiveness, God’s grace brings with it the power to live a life that is pleasing to God (Romans 6:6-7). If repentance and reform are genuine, prior homosexual actions should not be a bar to church membership or ministry, as all Christians are reformed sinners.

“Liberal” churches espouse tolerance of homosexual behavior in the name of “love.” They plug for the acceptance of homosexual conduct as normal, “because they can’t help it.” They are not only wrong about the latter, but they are actually not being at all loving towards homosexuals, because, contrary to the Bible, they reduce the homosexual person to the level of an animal, driven by instinct. In removing moral responsibility from the person, they dehumanize them, whereas the Bible says we are made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26-27), with the power of moral choice.

Furthermore, the gospel proclaims liberation from the bondage of sin, including homosexual sin, whereas the “liberals” tell the homosexual that they cannot help it, and they can’t help them either, so they will accept them as they are! However, many a person has been gloriously rescued from the bondage of homosexual sin (and other sin) by the power of the Holy Spirit, but only Bible-believing Christians can offer such hope.

Conclusion

As with all moral issues, our beliefs about our origin determine our attitude. If we believe that we arose from slime by a combination of random chance events and the struggle for survival, it is understandable to say that there is no higher authority, and we can make our own rules. However, if there is a loving God who planned us and gave commands for us to follow, then we must do so. God has set forth His standards in the Bible, beginning with the foundational teaching in the book of Genesis.

Archbishop Cranmer #fundie #homophobia archbishopcranmer.com

Bishop blocked by Twitter — for telling the truth about sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church

That notorious purveyor of hate and guile, the Rt Rev’d Dr Gavin Ashenden, has been blocked by Twitter. Actually, the tense is wrong: he was blocked by Twitter, but recanted and deleted and is now restored. The allegation of purveying hate and guile is also wrong: it is hard to imagine a more amiable, gentle and honest soul tweeting into the cybersphere. But ‘hate’ is what Twitter accused him of, and so he was ordered to recant and repent on pain of eternal excommunication. Deletion was insufficient: he had to prostrate himself in humility at the feet of the Twitter Pontiff, and beg to be restored to his ministry.

Bishop Gavin spent the day considering whether he would do either or both. He mulled and prayed and anguished for many an hour: should he recant and beg? Would he come to regret his decision and recant his recantation? He sought fellowship and wisdom among friends, and decided that since the article he had commented upon had been written some days ago, this particular tweet was not performing to much continued purpose. He considered that deleting it and continuing to foster public conversation on behalf of the kingdom was the better course. He then discovered that on pressing the ’delete’ button, his Twitter excommunication was immediately withdrawn. He was restored without further pleading.

His tweet was a link to an article written by the Rev’d Dr Jules Gomes, which concerned sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church. The article is fairly robust in its research, though quite unremarkable in its assertions: it is surely a matter of biological fact that the scandal engulfing the Roman Catholic Church is primarily one of homosexual clergy preying on teenage boys. It is not paedophilia (though the term is often applied in the vernacular), but ephebophilia — that is, sexual interest in mid-to-late adolescents. Since the Roman clerical hierarchy is exclusively male, and altar boys are boys, and seminarians are young men, it is surely not only a matter of biological fact but also of irrefutable logic that the scandal is exactly as Gavin Ashenden described it: not paedophilia, but predominantly one of homosexual lust.

He had previously written about gay predators himself, but this appears to be an unmentionable truth on Twitter: a violation of their rules against ‘hateful conduct’. Bishop Gavin shared no ‘hate’, and yet the infallible edict descended in order to censor him and demand conformation to Twitter’s moral orthodoxy. It is hard to discern where this might stop. Is it ‘hate’ to quote Moses (Lev 18:22)? Is it ‘hate’ to quote St Paul (Rom 1:26f)? Is it ’hate’ to tell people they are sinners and need saving? Is it ‘hate’ to tweet ’offensive’ extracts of the Bible? Would Twitter block Jesus?

If, as Dr Gomes avers (with supporting links), 80 per cent of the sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church is of a homosexual nature, and only 96 of 4,329 priest offenders were classified as true paedophiles, how can it be ‘hate’ to tweet this? He writes: “The US bishops even admitted that ‘an understanding of the crisis is not possible’ without speaking of ‘the presence of homosexually oriented priests’. Criminologist Margaret Smith, who worked on the John Jay report, insisted that: ‘The majority of abusive acts were homosexual in nature.'”

One cannot be too critical of paedophilia, but this is not that. Surely one has to be careful when speaking of sexual abuse lest one point the finger at the wrong group? Don’t we need to properly define our terms so we are clear what we are talking about and whom we are criticising?

Was it the phrase “predominately a gay crime” which caused the Twitter police to block Bishop Gavin? It can hardly be “homosexual lust”, unless Twitter is of the view that homosexuals don’t experience lust as much as heterosexuals or bisexuals do. How would they measure such things?

Either way, this is not ’hate speech’: it is simply factually correct. It is a crime to engage in sexual activity with minors (fact), but around 80 per cent of the recorded instances of sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic Church were committed by homosexual adults on pubescent or post pubescent boys (fact). It is, therefore, predominantly a gay crime. Or perhaps the Twitter police were being grammatically pedantic? People may be gay, but a crime may not: is ‘gay crime’ a juxtaposition which offends against the public mood of progressive tolerance? Must it be censored to avoid the public paying attention to the more problematic areas of gay culture?

By censoring this, does Twitter not become complicit in the perpetuation of sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church? At the very least, does it not become an impediment to academic inquiry and wider understanding? And by censoring Bishop Gavin Ashenden, are they not defaming him as a ‘hate preacher’? This erstwhile Chaplain-to-the-Queen has been found guilty of threatening or harassing people on the basis of their sexual orientation, and from this judgment there is no appeal; no natural justice. He must re-learn what virtue is, and what moral goods are, and only then may he resume his role in the social-media order. In the tensions of moral conflict, where compatibility is difficult if not impossible, it is orthodox Christians (and Jews and Muslims?) who are forced either to re-think their way through some painful choices, or to work out a strategy for evading these choices. Yet it is only by raising and openly debating these moral tensions and conflicts that public morality acquires an important dimension of its content. Shouldn’t Twitter be facilitating that conversation, rather than hurling ‘hate’ at every slightly contentious use of terminology?

Who reported Bishop Gavin? That’s the interesting question. Is it not preferable to take up a matter of dispute with your brother rather than run to the Twitter police and demand his suppression and restriction? What are you afraid of? Truth?

David J. Stewart #fundie #homophobia jesus-is-savior.com

A lot of ungodly people are upset with Pastor Anderson for his tough love preaching against sinners. Albeit, I want you to mentally do something. Picture eternity on Judgment Day, when the future will be no more. In eternity, do you really think for one second that God is going to tolerate, honor and accept two homosexual men, who were “married” on earth? Do you think Steven Anderson will have to lower his head in shame in God's holy presence, or the homosexuals and national leaders who have banned him from entering into their countries with the truth? Do you think God is going to judge 50/50, blaming both sides and justifying both sides, as is common in this filthy, wicked and warped world of sin in which we live? Not a chance. Pastor Anderson is going to be 100% vindicated, as will I, because we “let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.” The coming judgment in eternity will not be a time of negotiation, it will be a time when all men WILL BE JUDGED according to their works.

If you think God will side with the homosexual agenda, you are gravely in error. Likewise, a lot of people are upset with me for stepping on toes with my tough preaching. Albeit, I guarantee you that when we all stand in judgment before God, I will be vindicated in my preaching and stand, and that includes my stand against new-evangelicals who make light of the verbal inspiration of the King James Bible. New-evangelicals make light of the purity of God's Word, and the clarity of the Gospel, and women's modest attire, and the proper meaning of Bible repentance for salvation, et cetera. I have more respect for a homosexual than I do for a new-evangelical pastor, who is indifferent toward the truth!

It will boil down to you are either saved or lost! You either “DIE IN THE LORD” (Revelation 14:13); or you “DIE IN YOUR SINS” (John 8:24). Either your sins were paid for on the cross by the Lord Jesus Christ, or else you foolishly rejected Christ's payment and will have to pay for your own sins in the Lake of Fire (Revelation 20:15). A lot of the people ripping against Steven Anderson are not saved, and they clearly do not understand the Word of God. Although some people may claim that is exactly why it is damaging what Brother Anderson is doing, offending people with hard in-your-face preaching, I completely disagree. If there is one thing that I have learned in my 39 years as a born-again Christian, it is that people are going to do what they are going to do, and it has little to do with what we do.

Granted, the Bible says Jude 1:22, “And of some have compassion, making a difference.” I do actually think that Pastor Anderson greatly hinders his ministry by a lack of compassion for sinners, but that doesn't change the truthfulness of his message, nor the consequences of not heeding the truth. Hebrews 10:31, “It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” Psalms 36:1, “The transgression of the wicked saith within my heart, that there is no fear of God before his eyes.” Brother Anderson has only been alive on planet earth for 36 years, God has been here for all eternity! Pastor Anderson is still learning. Anybody with half a brain knows that truth! There is no a homosexual on the planet who doesn't know that there is a holy God, who made them normal, and He is a good God, and pastor Anderson is just a human being too, imperfect. Who is a sodomite to question a pastor's lack of love for homosexuals? Yeah, that's what I thought! No one can blame Steven Anderson.

Jonathan Van Maren #homophobia #biphobia lifesitenews.com

Alfred Kinsey was a pervert and a sex criminal

He is known as “The Father of the Sexual Revolution,” and if you’ve ever taken a university course on 20th century history, you’ll have heard his name: Alfred Kinsey.

Kinsey was not only the “father” of the Sexual Revolution, he set the stage for the massive social and cultural upheaval of the ‘60s, ‘70s and ‘80s with his 1948 Sexual Behavior in the Human Maleand his 1953 Sexual Behavior in the Human Female.

These books revealed to a shocked and somewhat titillated population things they had never known about themselves: That between 30-45% of men had affairs, 85% of men had had sex prior to marriage, that a staggering 70% of men had slept with prostitutes, and that between 10 and 37% of men had engaged in homosexual behavior.

Much less talked about were his other disturbing “findings”—an in-depth study on the “sexual behavior” of children, as well as claims that nearly 10% of men had performed sex acts with animals (as well as 3.6% of women), and that this number rose to between 40-50% based on proximity to farms

Kinsey’s research portrayed people as amoral and sex-driven, and is credited as fundamentally changing the way our culture views sex.

But was he right?

To begin with, the integrity of much of his work has long since been called into question: among his questionable practices, Kinsey encouraged those he was working with to engage in all types of sexual activity as a form of research, misrepresented single people as married, and hugely over represented incarcerated sex criminals and prostitutes in his data.

But beyond this is the simple fact that Kinsey himself was a pervert and a sex criminal.

For example, where did he get all of his data on the “sexual behavior of children”? The answer is nothing short of chilling. Dr. Judith Reisman (whose research has since been confirmed time and time again) explained in her ground-breaking work Sex, Lies and Kinsey that Kinsey facilitated brutal sexual abuse to get his so-called research: "Kinsey solicited and encouraged pedophiles, at home and abroad, to sexually violate from 317 to 2,035 infants and children for his alleged data on normal “child sexuality.” Many of the crimes against children (oral and anal sodomy, genital intercourse and manual abuse) committed for Kinsey’s research are quantified in his own graphs and charts. For example, “Table 34” on page 180 of Kinsey’s “Sexual Behavior in the Human Male” claims to be a “scientific” record of “multiple orgasm in pre-adolescent males.” Here, infants as young as five months were timed with a stopwatch for “orgasm” by Kinsey’s “technically trained” aides, with one four-year-old tested 24 consecutive hours for an alleged 26 “orgasms.” Sex educators, pedophiles and their advocates commonly quote these child “data” to prove children’s need for homosexual, heterosexual and bisexual satisfaction via “safe-sex” education. These data are also regularly used to “prove” children are sexual from birth."

The man heralded with enthusiasm by mainstream publications such as Timeand Life Magazine was nothing less than a monstrous facilitator of child-rape. In fact, he even went so far as to record children shrieking and thrashing in pain, passing out and convulsing as the result of the hellish abuse he was putting them through, as evidence of “orgasm”—especially for children who could not yet speak.

Kinsey’s so-called research was simply a quest to justify the fact that he himself was a deeply disturbed man. Dr. Reisman writes, “Both of Kinsey’s most recent admiring biographers confessed he was a sadistic bi/homosexual, who seduced his male students and coerced his wife, his staff and the staff’s wives to perform for and with him in illegal pornographic films made in the family attic. Kinsey and his mates, Wardell Pomeroy, Clyde Martin and Paul Gebhard, had ‘front’ Marriages that concealed their strategies to supplant what they say as a narrow pro-creational Judeo-Christian era with a promiscuous ‘anything goes’ bi/gay pedophile paradise.”

Got that? The Father of the Sexual Revolution was a sado-masochistic bi-sexual sex criminal who facilitated the sexual torture of infants and children. His goal was not just to engage in scientific research in order to see where the data took him, but rather, as one of his prominent biographers Michael Jones notes, to launch a crusade to undermine traditional sexual morality. He did so to wild success—Kinsey’s influence on sex education and law in the Western world is absolutely staggering.

Some have claimed that even though Kinsey may have been disturbed and engaged in immoral behavior, his fundamental conclusions and his data still remain accurate. This, too, proves blatantly false. According to Dr. Reisman:

1. [Dr. Kinsey’s team] ‘forced’ subjects to give the desired answers to their sex questions, 2. Secretly trashed three quarters of their research data, and 3. Based their claims about normal males on a roughly 86 percent aberrant male population including 200 sexual psychopaths, 1,400 sex offenders and hundreds each of prisoners, male prostitutes and promiscuous homosexuals. Moreover, so few normal women would talk to them that the Kinsey team labeled women who lived over a year with a man ‘married,’ reclassifying data on prostitutes and other unconventional women as “Susie Homemaker.”
It is crucially important that people become aware of the truth behind the Kinsey Reports.

Today’s pornified sex educators, legal experts, academics, and more disturbingly, pedophile groups such as NAMBLA pushing “inter-generational intimacy,” all use Kinsey’s work to justify their agendas and lend their causes scientific credibility.

Most people have no idea who Alfred Kinsey really was and how his so-called research was actually performed. I myself first heard of Alfred Kinsey in the first year of my history degree at university, where my professor announced that there “was no Sexual Revolution at all”—because the Kinsey Reports proved that people had been engaging in all sorts of bizarre and criminal sexual behaviors all along.

The real story is horrifying. It is stomach-churning. But it is also crucial that we know how, exactly, we got to this place in our culture of such sexual nihilism.

circumsizedbagel #fundie #homophobia archive.is

if i see one more thing about “zendaya is meechie” on my dashboard i am going to absolutely fucking lose it. “zendaya is meechy” or whatever the fuck it’s called is not funny at all. There is literally nothing about it that’s funny. All you’re doing is showing how easily tumblr libs jump all over something bc “LOL big man say something not make sense HURR DURR”. Stop trying to to push your weird fucking LGBT propaganda down everyone’s throats. i cannot fucking take this bullshit anymore and i am about to seriously go off my shit so stop reblogging this dumb ass fucking video thank u very much!!

#zendaya is meechee #ive had enough #tumblr liberal sjws are the fucking disease of the human race #tumblr #lgbt #liberals #propaganda #ENOUGH ALREADY

Jair Bolsonaro #wingnut #fundie #sexist #homophobia yahoo.com

Rio de Janeiro (AFP) - Right-wing ex-army captain and presidential front-runner Jair Bolsonaro is a controversial figure in Brazil, not least for a series of comments about torture, rape, homosexuals and women.

Ahead of the October 7 election first round, AFP takes a look at some of 63-year-old's most eye-catching comments.

- Torture -

-- "The dictatorship's mistake was to torture but not kill." -- Interview with Jovem Pan radio station, June 2016.

- "During the dictatorship, they should have shot 30,000 corrupt people, starting with the (then) President Fernando Henrique Cardoso, which would have been a great gain for the nation." -- Guotes carried by TV Bandeirantes, May 1999.

-- "For the memory of colonel Carlos Alberto Brilhante Ustra, the terror of Rousseff... my vote is yes!" -- After voting in favor of impeaching then-president Dilma Rousseff, a former guerrilla who was tortured under the military dictatorship, Bolsonaro dedicated his vote to retired colonel Ustra, the former head of the military dictatorship's intelligence services accused of having killed at least six people under torture.

- Killing -

-- "We're going to shoot the PT supporters in Acre." -- During a Workers' Party (PT) electoral meeting in the western state on September 1. His communications department subsequently said: "it was a joke, as always."

- Religion -

-- "God above all. This history of a secular state doesn't exist, no. The state is Christian and those who are against it can leave. The minority must bow to the majority." -- A meeting in Paraiba, February 2017.

- Race -

-- "I went to a quilombola (a settlement of African slave descendants) in Eldorado Paulista. The lightest Afro-descendent weighed seven arrobas (around 80 kilograms, 225 pounds). They don't do anything. They're no use even to procreate." -- During a conference at Rio de Janeiro's Hebrew Club following a visit to a quilombola.

-- "Preta, I'm not going to talk about promiscuity with anyone. I won't run that risk, because my sons were brought up very well and they haven't lived in environments such as is, unfortunately, yours." -- When singer and presenter Preta Gil, the daughter of renowned musician Gilberto Gil, asked him on TV Bandeirantes in March 2011 how he would react if one of his sons fell in love with a black woman. Later, Bolsonaro said he'd misheard the question and thought it referred to a possible homosexual relationship.

- Women -

-- "It saddens me to see the entrepreneurial world in Brazil, because it's a misfortune to be a boss in our country, with so many labor laws. Between a man and a young woman, what will the entrepreneur think? 'Damn, this woman's got a ring on her finger, she'll be pregnant soon, she'll be on maternity leave for six months...' Who's going to pay the bill? The employer. In the end it's deducted from social security but the work rhythm is broken. And when she returns, she'll take a month-long vacation. In the end, she works five months in one year." -- Interview with Zero Hora newspaper, December 2014.

- Rape -

-- "She doesn't deserve to be raped because she's very ugly. She's not my type, I'd never rape her. I'm not a rapist, but if I was, I wouldn't rape her because she doesn't deserve it." -- Bolsonaro speaking to Zero Hora in December 2014, explaining why he previously told leftist deputy, Maria do Rosario: "I wouldn't rape you, you don't deserve it."

- Homosexuals -

-- "I wouldn't be able to love a gay son. I wouldn't be a hypocrite, I'd prefer a son to die in an accident than appear with a moustacho." -- Interview with Playboy magazine, June 2011

I P Knightley #fundie #homophobia premier.org.uk

Rev. William H. Carey: I have almost 40 years experience researching scripture in the original languages. Chris is correct both in his understanding of David and Jonathan's relationship, and the relationship of the centurion and his boy. Jonathan and David were married. It was David's first marriage, but not Jonathan's. When David later married Jonathan's sister, Saul recognized it as David's second marriage to one of his children. This is clearly shown in the Hebrew text. English versions twist the translation to hide it, but don't all do so in the same way. Some, like KJV, add words, while others change the meanings of words. The evidence that they were married is irrefutable from the Hebrew text.
The relationship between the centurion and his pais is also pretty clear. Such relationships were pretty much ubiquitous among Roman men. It was considered normal, and a normal part of the boy's education. It should be mentioned that the boys in these relationships were not children. They were adolescents, and some sources indicate that a boy didn't enter such a relationship until he reached his full height, which would put him mid to late teens.
The evidence for all of this, should you care enough about the truth to verify it, is found on this website: hoperemainsonline.com If you have questions about the material on the site, they have a staff who will respond.

I P Knightley: Your evidence for the above screed is?

Rev. William H. Carey: You're joking, right? I gave you a link for the evidence. Or did you expect me to reproduce the entire Hebrew and Greek text here? Come on, get real.

I P Knightley: Did you really expect me to read a pro-homosexual site?
Why would you expect that?

...

I P Knightley: So far I have seen you guys compare your habits with being: black, diabetic, autistic, red-headed and left-handed. What next?

Rev. William H. Carey: Nothing wrong with being compared to those things. They are all genetic traits. On the other hand, how do you feel about being classed in with the KKK, Westboro Baptist and other hate groups? Those aren't genetic traits. They are examples of bigotry fueled by willful ignorance.

I P Knightley: "They are all genetic traits"False! " On the other hand, how do you feel about being classed in with the KKK, Westboro Baptist" I am not an American so grow up!

Reverend William H. Carey: Your nationality is irrelevant. You still fit right in with those groups, both of which are listed as hate groups.

I P Knightley: That is utter insulting NONSENSE!
I thankfully know almost nothing about the KKK, it's an American invention, but I know that it's not Christian.
Westboro is one extended family, not a church.
I think that you will find that most actual Christians think as I do, making your masquerade pointless!

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I P Knightley: No homosexual is filled with God's spirit
If any such person was, he could not continue to be homosexual.

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I P Knightley: Oh I have given up on him! He is determined to twist whatever I say, as I know he does with you too. You are very patient with him!

....

Jeff: I decided to click on that link William provided. Trying to follow the explanation of their interpretations of Hebrew, and how they was explaining how to apply it was very trying, I felt like I would have to do a double take. Before I was willing to invest in that, I thought I would check out a simpler example of these writers credibility, so then I clicked on Adam and Eve vs Adam and Steve. Their logic did seem to show obvious evidence of being predisposed in their objective and was their motive in how they formed their logic and assumptions. They also seemed to decide when to use assumptions according to their logic and talked as if that was what made obvious sense, when it did not, in fact was in degrees of absurd.

I P Knightley: Thank you for that analysis!
I am not at all surprised, just sad. *Tear drop emoji*.

Martin #fundie #homophobia archbishopcranmer.com

TS (Unami): And likewise we don't want to call something a sin that is not a sin.
I'm not going to say that left-handed people are sinning for how God made them -- even though the church once thought being left-handed was a sin.
God made people in a *wide variety* of ways, and innate orientation is merely one of the differences that He delighted to vary in human beings. One's orientation is not a sin -- gay or straight.

Martin: There are no orientations, they choose to sin and call it an orientation to cover their sin.

TS (unami): Please consult a medical professional about your concerns.

Martin: A good, honest 'medical practitioner' would agree with me.

TS (unami): So go ask them.

Martin: I don't need to, I know the truth. It is you who are displaying ignorance and prejudice.

JD: Wuss.

Martin: Why would I ask the ignorant a question they cannot answer?

JD: Remember that when you find yourself in a life-or-death situation laying on a table in the ER. You'll be eating those words, if you live that is.

Martin: No I won't. It's a subject the medical profession frequently know nothing about.

David Taylor #fundie #homophobia books.google.com

Cleveland, Ohio, 1998

It was 1998 and the ministry was growing during this awesome season. I was introduced to a great man, Bishop McKinney, and his wife Shirley, whom people affectionately called “Lady Bishop.” They invited me to Cleveland to conduct a set of revival services. In these services, we saw the Lord do awesome things and demonstrate glorious and great power. One night the glory of God came in during intimate worship. It was so heavy that I could not minister. It was so thick that all I could do was sit down on the podium steps. We had seen many dramatic miracles and awesome displays of God’s power, but this night was very special.

As I sat down on the steps, the people were still standing in the Lord’s presence, and all of a sudden Jesus appeared in front of me in the middle aisle. He smiled at me. I noticed Him when I sat down (for the service was out of my control anyway). He then appeared and started taking over the service completely. We must learn to yield more completely as ministers and move out of the Lord’s way! As Jesus stood there, I told the people that He was in the room, and I narrated what He was doing.

I could tell that a few people didn’t believe what I was saying. The church I was ministering in has an incredible worship team and has a lively congregation that is always ready for a move of God, so it may have been visitors that did not believe Jesus was there. After Jesus smiled at me, He turned to walk to the back of the audience and said, “Some of them don’t believe you when you said that I’m here on the earth and in this service with them in my glorified body.” There were about 1200 people in the service that night. As Jesus walked, I narrated His every move to the people. I told them that He was walking toward the back. When He got to the end of the last pew, He turned left and walked to the farthest end of the last pew.

Jesus Appears and Heals a Young Man With AIDS

Because I was sitting down and the people were standing, I could not see Him in the back of the church at this point, but I could still hear Him. Then suddenly He began speaking to me saying, “David, there is a young man who is a homosexual on the back pew. He came here to be healed because he has AIDS.” Now you have to understand that the service and atmosphere were charged with electricity and God’s presence through awesome worship. Jesus then continued and said, “David, I have My hands on this young man’s shoulders and he feels electricity going through his body because I’m healing him of AIDS and setting him free from homosexuality. Tell what I’m doing openly and call this out.” I didn’t know there was a homosexual in our audience or where he was sitting until Jesus turned left and pointed him out to me. Jesus said, “The people will believe you more—that I am personally in the room—when you narrate this and tell it openly.” Then I said it! I shared everything that Jesus had told me about the young man. I shared that God was healing him of AIDS and delivering him from homosexuality, and I pointed to him in the back of the church.

Then I said to the young man, “Come up here.” I was still sitting down. When the young man got up and came out of the back pew, he was trembling and shaking uncontrollably because of the power and electricity flowing through his body. I knew that this man was the homosexual that God told me about because he was the only one who came up to the front. Immediately, Jesus said to me, “David, do not lay hands on him; just point from where you are sitting.” He was about 30 to 40 feet away from where I was sitting. As He walked down the middle aisle alone, I did what Jesus said and I pointed my index finger at him. I felt and saw a bolt of lightning and electricity flow out from my finger and hit him. The power of God raised him up about 6 feet in midair and threw him so that he was flying backwards through the air. When he landed on the floor slain under the power of God, he was completely set free from homosexuality and healed of AIDS. That’s glorious power! The people saw this take place. The whole audience made an astonishing sound together: Whooo! They knew Jesus was personally there in the building when they saw this manifestation.

It Was Complete Glory

Jesus then came back down the center aisle again, passed in front of me, and stood at my left side. He looked at me and said, “David, even after this there are still some that don’t believe I’m here. Have all those who are skeptics come up here to where I am standing.” I had already narrated that Jesus had walked up to the front so then I said, “All of you that are having a hard time believing that Jesus is here personally, come up here and stand where He’s standing.” About 40 people came to the front to go to where Jesus was standing. When they got there, all collapsed under His power onto the floor. It was powerful! All skeptics hit the floor under the power of God for Jesus had touched them all without using me. I was still sitting down on the steps, just watching all of this and thinking about how powerful and how delightful it was! There’s nothing like watching Jesus minister! I love Him working with us!

Luis Javier Ruiz & Christopher Doyle #fundie #homophobia #transphobia nbcnews.com

A survivor of the June 2016 mass shooting at a gay nightclub in Orlando, Florida, that left 49 people dead now says he has found Christ and is no longer gay.

“I should have been number 50!,” Luis Javier Ruiz said in a message posted to Facebook. “Going through old pictures of the night of Pulse, I remember my struggles of perversion, heavy drinking to drown out everything and having promiscuous sex that led to HIV. My struggles were real! The enemy had its grip, and now God has taken me from that moment and has given me Christ.”

Ruiz shared this revelation just ahead of the Freedom March, to be held May 5 in Washington. The event bills itself as a “celebration of freedom from homosexuality and transgenderism. The event's organizers have partnered with Voice of the Voiceless, a religious group whose mission is “to defend the rights of former homosexuals, individuals with unwanted same-sex attraction, and their families,” according to its website.

Christopher Doyle, founder of Voice of the Voiceless, told NBC News this weekend's event is "about celebrating our lives and not hating the LGBTQ movement."

"We made a conscious choice to leave homosexuality, and we should be able to do that without being mocked," Doyle wrote in an email.

Ruiz, who was featured in a social media post for the Freedom March above the words “Homosexuals Can Change!,” is expected to attend Saturday's event along with others “celebrating freedom from homosexual/transgender lifestyles,” according to the Freedom March’s Facebook page.

Ruiz did not respond to NBC News' request for comment.

Unknown author #quack #homophobia therapeuticchoice.com

The Alliance respects each client's dignity, autonomy and free agency. We believe that clients have the right to claim a gay identity, or to diminish their homosexuality and to develop their heterosexual potential. The right to seek therapy to support a gay identity as well as to change one's sexual adaptation should be considered self-evident and inalienable. We call on our fellow mental-health association to stop falsely claiming to have "scientific knowledge" that settles the issue of homosexuality.

Instead, our mental-health associations must leave room for diverse understandings of the family, of core human identity, and the meaning and purpose of human sexuality. "Tolerance and diversity" means nothing if it is extended to activists and not traditionalists on the homosexual issue. Tolerance must also be extended to those people who take the principled, scientifically supportable view that homosexuality works against our human nature.

David J. Stewart #fundie #homophobia #kinkshaming jesusisprecious.org

Taylor Swift's music videos are nothing less than vulgar, promiscuous, sensual, lewd and shameful. Very deceitfully, there is a popular consensus online that Taylor Swift is less sexualizing than Katy Perry and Miley Cyrus. That's like saying that Playboy magazine isn't as bad as Penthouse. Sexual sins are deadly! Colossians 3:5-7, “Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry: For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience: In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.” Sensual public indecency is no trifle matter to God!!!

Furthermore, homosexuality is an awful sin according to God's Word:

Romans 1:24-27 and 32, “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. ... Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.”

Taylor Swift is well-favored by the gay community for her open support, through her music, of the homosexual agenda. May I say, we ought to give up our wrongs in America, not our rights! God does not bless sin! God will not bless America while we are committing adultery, murdering our children, walking around naked at the beaches, recognizing homosexual marriages, worshipping materialism, cheating one another in business dealings, teaching our children that it's Ok for two men to sodomize each other and call it “love,” et cetera! We are a very sick nation!!!

Amos Moses #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

(Amos continues to conflate homosexuality and narcissism, claiming scripture says so)

Amos Moses:
Romans (this entire passage is about NARCISSISM)
1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: (LESBIANS ADDRESSED)
1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (HOMOSEXUALS ADDRESSED)
1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
1:29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
1:30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, (NARCISSISM ADDRESSED)
1:31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:(MORE NARCISSISM)
1:32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.(MORE NARCISSISM and the PENALTY)

SanGeronimo:
Not one of those passages LINKS narcissism with homosexuality, they are addressed as SEPARATE things. It is YOU who is attempting to link them. Your scripture IS NOT doing that.

Amos Moses:
they are discussed in the exact same part of scripture ...... and you are not a competent judge of scripture ............ they are not separate issues

SanGeronimo:
They are discussed in the exact same part of scripture. I don't DISPUTE that.
BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING. If in some part of scripture they condemn murder and in the next sentence they condemn rape, does it mean rape and murder are the same thing? Are you always this obtuse?

Amos Moses:
they are inextricably linked ..........

SanGeronimo:
So a rapist is always a murderer too?

Amos Moses:
YUP .....

David J. Stewart #homophobia jesus-is-savior.com

Most homosexual sex is performed with strangers. 70% admitting to having sex only once with over half of their partners. The average Homosexual has had 300 to 500 partners during a lifetime. 28% have performed sodomy on over 1000 partners. Only 2% have had monogamous relationships, and those are defined as lasting anywhere between 9 and 60 months.

Of these monogamous relationships;

-5% drank urine
-7% incorporated fisting
-33% ingested feces
-53% swallowed semen

Contrary to media propaganda, these practices are not always taking place "behind closed doors," in the privacy of one's own bedroom. According to The Gay Report, a homosexual magazine; the most frequented places to practice homosexual behavior are:

-public restrooms;
-bus stations,
-service stations,
-public libraries,
-rest stops;
-"health clubs" where groups gather to watch others engage in sodomy or go to private booths for themselves;
-"gay bars" and night clubs;
-street corners where they "cruise" for others,
-"glory holes" (circular holes cut out of partitions between stalls in public restrooms allowing anonymous oral sodomy with the person in the next stall);
-pornographic bookstores,
-peep shows,
-movie houses,
-public parks where groups gather in the bushes;
-beaches and public baths.

In Fact "Bob Damron's Address Book" lists all of the parks and recreation areas in the country that are frequented for anonymous homosexual activity, so new homosexuals to your town can always know where others congregate.

Carlzone #fundie #homophobia #psycho shiachat.com

You are using the psychological defense mechanism of projection.

Oh, did i misunderstand you? Please correct me then. How do you regard God destroying a whole nation of homosexuals? Did God do the right thing? Did God make a mistake?

Answering these questions will show your inconsistency and faulty view of Allah SWT so you won't do it :)

In the end no person's opinions have any value, not yours, not mine. The only thing that matters is Allah SWTs view. And we all know what that was. He destroyed those deviant homosexuals.

Amos Moses & Karen #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

(commenting on story about two lesbians who have been together 37 years suing a retirement village for rejecting them)

Karen:
Whenever one of these "couples" goes after a Christian business, keep this in mind: Two people with that much hate inside them is eventually going to turn it on each other. The domestic abuse rates of gays and lesbians is double that of normal couples. Their hatred for Christians may unite them for a time, but when that's all over, they're stuck with each other - two people full of anger, looking for a place to vent it.

Bob Johnson:
They have been together for 37 years.

Amos Moses:
so what ...... christianity has been here 2000+ years ......

Fandango:
It is testament to the strength of their relationship.

Amos Moses:
nope ......... it is testament to their narcissism .........

Fandango:
People don’t stay together for nearly 40 years because of narcissism. Come on.

Amos Moses:
that is all they have .......

Fandango:
No, I'm sorry, but do you even know what narcissism is? It comes from Greek mythology - Narcissus fell in love with his own image and the words "narcissism" and "narcissistic" refer to people who are self-absorbed, and I fail to see what two people in love who have committed themselves to each other (not themselves) for such a long and admirable period of time has whatsoever to do with narcissism.

Amos Moses:
"and I fail to see what two people in love who have committed themselves to each other (not themselves) for such a long and admirable period of time has whatsoever to do with narcissism."
because that is what they have .... and their "time together" is irrelevant ...... at least as far as this facility is concerned and this story ..... but no surprise that you "fail to see" ...........

Fandango:
That makes NO sense. Not a single shred of it. Narcissism is the very opposite of what two people who have given selflessly of themselves to each other have, especially for such an admirably long period of time. It's heartwarming and commendable and I would want it for anyone.

Amos Moses:
glad to see you are all warm and fuzzy for depravity and narcissism

Fandango:
In what POSSIBLE sense can the committed dedication and love between two people which lasts 37 years, in an age when people commonly marry and divorce within a YEAR, be called "narcissism"? How is it narcissistic? What about it is narcissistic? Does love mean nothing to you?

Amos Moses:
not love .... narcissism ...... what they have is a self-centered love of self and another who meets the needs of that narcissism .......... so not love ..... and their time together is not relevant .........

Fandango:
If you really believe that I have to say I feel very sorry for you. What you're saying is that they really do not love each other. And why would they stay together that many years if they didn't? If they were narcissists they wouldn't need other people.
What is love to you?

Wil The Free #fundie #homophobia anchorednorth.org

Well, I'm calling homosexual sinners because the Bible calls homosexuals sinners. It's a point of fact, not a judgment. Second, I wouldn't be loving you, my neighbour, if I wasn't warning you that your continued sin would bar you from entering heaven when you die, as taught in the New Testament.

In fact, if I hated you, I would keep quiet. I can't do that. I love you.

The Voice of Reason #fundie #homophobia disqus.com

The Voice of Reason:
Mostly, same-sex marriages are a danger only to those who would potentially participate in them, as it normalizes same-sex sexual activity and thereby makes it less likely that those with same-sex sexual attractions will practice abstinence.
As far as danger posed by same-sex marriages to heterosexual people, I really don't see any. Sure there's the contribution to the gradual desensitization of the culture to sexual sin, but I think same-sex marriage has a pretty marginal share of the blame for that. The normalization of pornography, men fathering children and leaving the mothers to fend for themselves, and the casual sex culture in general are far, far more to blame for the moral decay in this area than the minor impact that could be contributed to same-sex marriage.

Fandango:
Why do people such as yourself keep expecting homosexuals to be heterosexuals? They can’t.

The Voice of Reason:
I don't, nor did I claim to. Sexual attraction is not a decision, it's something one is born with. How a person acts, or refrains from acting, on that attraction is very much a choice.

Fandango:
Are you telling a homosexual he or she should live a life free of sexual gratification, then?

The Voice of Reason:
Yes.

Fandango:
Why? Why should they be denied the rich experience of falling in love the rest of us enjoy?

The Voice of Reason:
They are being denied nothing, I oppose all attempts by governments to enforce any sexual norms. But when it comes to morality, the only morally permissible form of sexual activity is within the bonds of a heterosexual marriage. All others, be they homosexuals or unmarried heterosexuals, are called to abstinence.

David J. Stewart #fundie #homophobia jesus-is-savior.com

PERVERT ALERT!!! PERVERT ALERT!!!

The unbiblical Catholic doctrine of celibacy has caused major problems within the Catholic Church. The Roman Catholic church is a cesspool of homosexual perverts and pedophiles. Pedophilia and homosexuality are inseparable (as many as 50% of all Catholic priests are allegedly homosexual). Whereas the average U.S. citizen would spend life in prison for committing the same sexual crimes as literally thousands of Roman Catholic priests, guilty priests are virtually untouchable. Instead the pervert pedophile priests are relocated, sheltered or retired by the Vatican, but hardly ever prosecuted by local authorities as they should be. Satan controls and protects the prisonhouse of perverted pedophile priests in Catholicism!

Sad to say, the Catholic Church is able to hide the grossest of sins (over 12,000 allegations of criminal sexual conduct since 1950). That is alarming!!! There's no difference between Mormonism's Warren Jeffs and the Catholic Pope, who both cover-up the crimes. Why are Catholics so trusting toward their priests, knowing that there's an epidemic of child molesting within the Catholic Church? They are so blinded by religion that they don't even care about their own children. Religion is a dangerous thing. Don't leave your brain at the baptistry! Unbeknownst to most, the Catholic Church was the biggest supporter of Hitler's war machine and the extermination of millions of Jews during WW2.

Andrew Bieszad #homophobia #fundie shoebat.org

(since a certain commenter is pretty much asking for it...)

Major Homosexual Publication Declares That 2018 Is An ‘Excellent Year’ With A “Glorious Sexual Future” Because More Homosexuals Are Licking And Eating The Feces Of Other Homosexuals Than Ever Before


Pink News from the UK reports that 2018 is an ‘excellent year’ with a “glorious sexual future” because more homosexuals than ever before are partaking in a practice called “rimming,” – as in the rim of a toilet bowl- which is where a homosexual thrusts his tongue into the rectum of another homosexual to stimulate him:

A hashtag cataloguing attractive gay men who engage in rimming has gone viral.

And why did such a wonderful event occur?

Because we’re stepping into a glorious sexual future, that’s why.

#FineMenThatEatAss has taken over Twitter this week, with gay men coming out to share their preference and selfies with the world.

And just in case there was any doubt about the nature of the hashtag in terms of its sexuality, people were ready to set the record straight – so to speak.

One person wrote: “The str8s thought that #FineMenThatEatAss was for them?!!”

Another said: “If you’re straight and you participate in #FineMenThatEatAss that is cultural appropriation”.

Fair.

And yet another wrote: “girls realising the tag is for gays ????????.”

But let’s get to the real event: the loud and proud declarations that with these men, anilingus is always on the table.

One wrote: “You are all welcome”.

Another said: “THIS IS REALLY A THING AND IM HERE FOR IT.”

“Let me Jump in ????” was one enthusiast’s comment.

And he wasn’t content with just one post.

One person wrote: “One time for the one time ??.”

Another said: “what can I say ya boy be hungry ????.”

Which makes sense. We can relate.

“I’m late but ima join anyway ????” said another contributor

One person said: “You know I had to do it”.

And another opted for a pun to make his point

He wrote: “finally a thirst trap hashtag i can get— BEHIND.”

Of course, as many of us will know, oral-to-anal sex is loved by many.

So many, in fact, that Google searches around the topic are through the roof – including those looking for the official definition of rimming or the top tips for giving a great ass job.

Search terms like “rimming vid” are also massively popular as people enjoy watching the act sometimes as much as performing it.

Lots of people still have questions about eating their partner’s bum, such as “how to clean my ass before sex” and “do women enjoy rimming?”

So, if you’re in an environment where you can look at an article which explains the finer intricacies of rimming, we have just the thing for you.

For years, Shoebat.com told you about how homosexuals love to masturbate with feces.

For years, Shoebat.com told you about how homosexual porn frequently involves eating feces and drinking urine.

For years, Shoebat.com told you about how the homosexuals admit themselves that they love to eat feces even though it spreads diseases, and then the homosexuals blame “the government” for why they became sick. (source)

For years, other Christians have warned about the evil, disgusting, and deviant practices of the LGBT:

All the signs were there. They are disgusting and disturbing to look at, but failure to recognize or heed the signs does not stop the consequences they will bring from happening if they are not dealt with.

And here it is, 2018, and feces eating has now become “viral” among homosexuals.

Just as we warned.

You’re welcome.

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Doc Cassidy #homophobia kiwifarms.net

Statistically speaking you're right. Despite homosexuals accounting for a very small percentage of the population they are responsible for nearly all child rapes. Basic math says that all homosexuals would have to be child molesters to account for the number of rapes and molestations they commit.

Doc Cassidy #homophobia kiwifarms.net

It's well known that homosexuals disproportionately molest children. Although I can't be bothered to look up the exact stats boys are sexually abused at a similar rate as girls despite homosexual men only being around 1.5% of the population at most. However, I believe that all child molesters are homosexual, even the ones that molest girls. Let me explain why.

When a boy enters puberty he goes through mild changes. His voice deepens, his shoulders widen, and he grows denser body hair. The changes in a girl however are drastic!

The most noticeable is the development of breasts, something essential to heterosexual attraction. She develops curves, the hips widen, the thighs thicken. She becomes a woman and looks nothing like the child she was before. These are called "secondary sex characteristics". It's practically a metamorphosis, these changes make the woman completely unlike the child she was before and it's specifically these differences that a straight man are interested in.

A girl's body holds no appeal to straight men; but what kind of man would be interested in someone with a flat chest and no hips or thighs? You guessed it, a homosexual man. Obviously the men that molest boys are homosexual but the men that abuse girls are simply closeted homosexuals that target girls so they can lie to themselves and say they're straight. Despite the fact that a busty and curvy body holds no appeal to them they're too ashamed to admit they're homosexual.

If there are any scientists on this site I would recommend looking into this.

Val Kalende #fundie #homophobia faithwire.com

A prominent LGBT rights activist from Uganda has renounced her homosexuality and is now calling the lifestyle sinful.

Val Kalende, a Ugandan national granted asylum in Canada in 2015 after her country passed its Anti-Homosexuality Act the year before, declared in late July that she’s no longer lesbian and will, in fact, soon be married, according to The Christian Post.

In 2012 and 2014, Kalende authored columns for The Huffington Post, arguing against the country’s anti-gay legislation. In one of the columns, she even wrote, “The church in Africa has become a safety net for homophobia mainly because it is safer to bash gays with the Bible than it is to bash gays with politics.”

She also once served as a fellow at OutRight Action International, formerly known as the International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission.

But now, Kalende says she’s been “saved.”

Kalende explained in an interview with the Daily Monitor that her transition away from homosexuality happened roughly one year ago. She waited to make a public profession because she “wanted to take time to do the important work on myself” before speaking out.

When she first came out, Kalende told the news outlet, her parents abandoned her. In her words, she “became an orphan.”

“I became rebellious,” she said. “We always wondered why the world forced us to become girls who do not love men. Right now, I have no peace of mind. I sometimes break down and cry wondering why am like this.”

In an introspective Facebook post published earlier this month, Kalende wondered how she, raised by Christian parents, walked away from her convictions and lived in a lifestyle opposed to her faith for so long.

“I wrestled with this question for many years. I didn’t have answers. My rebellion had separated me from God,” she wrote. “Oftentimes, I read my Bible — particularly Scripture on homosexuality and marriage — but my heart was hardened.”

It wasn’t until Kalende changed her “approach” to God that she began to see her own perspective change. She wrote:

My approach should have been: “Lord, I don’t have answers but I trust and believe your Word. Your intention is not to harm me or prevent me from enjoying life. Your intention is to preserve me; and to give me not the life of my choice but the life I deserve according to your love. Help me to obey your purpose for my life.”

Kalende’s complete turnaround garnered the attention of some Christian activists in the United States.
In a statement to The Christian Post, Mat Staver, founder of the religious freedom law firm Liberty Counsel, descried Kalende as “an incredible example that Jesus Christ can change the heart of even those who have acted adamantly against him.”

“Ms. Kalende’s testimony,” he continued, “is like Saul’s conversion from persecuting Christians to then giving his heart and life to God and becoming Paul. Despite those who want to deny reality, people can and do change.”

Matt Walsh #fundie #homophobia dailywire.com

Bishop Morlino of Madison displayed courage rare among American bishops when he published a letter this weekend which gets right to the heart of the matter of the abuse of children within the Catholic Church. Here is what he said, in part:
It is time to admit that there is a homosexual subculture within the hierarchy of the Catholic Church that is wreaking great devastation in the vineyard of the Lord. The Church’s teaching is clear that the homosexual inclination is not in itself sinful, but it is intrinsically disordered in a way that renders any man stably afflicted by it unfit to be a priest. And the decision to act upon this disordered inclination is a sin so grave that it cries out to heaven for vengeance, especially when it involves preying upon the young or the vulnerable. Such wickedness should be hated with a perfect hatred. Christian charity itself demands that we should hate wickedness just as we love goodness. But while hating the sin, we must never hate the sinner, who is called to conversion, penance, and renewed communion with Christ and His Church, through His inexhaustible mercy.

At the same time, however, the love and mercy which we are called to have even for the worst of sinners does not exclude holding them accountable for their actions through a punishment proportionate to the gravity of their offense. In fact, a just punishment is an important work of love and mercy, because, while it serves primarily as retribution for the offense committed, it also offers the guilty party an opportunity to make expiation for his sin in this life (if he willingly accepts his punishment), thus sparing him worse punishment in the life to come. Motivated, therefore, by love and concern for souls, I stand with those calling for justice to be done upon the guilty.

There is plenty to be said about his appropriate and necessary call to hatred of sin — a call you rarely hear from leaders of the Catholic Church, or any other church — but the first sentence of that paragraph is most notable. Here is a high ranking official in the Church admitting, finally, that there is a "homosexual subculture within the hierarchy" which is directly linked to the sex abuse scandals.

It is important to emphasize that this is not a matter of a bunch of individual gay priests who just so happened to wind up in the Church. There is an actual gay culture, as the Bishop notes — or a "homosexual undergound," as another report puts it — and it is "wreaking devastation." Last week I mentioned the priest in Tampa who revealed just how this organized network of homosexuals operates and what sort of tactics they use to intimidate and blackmail other priests into silence. Do those who wish to deny the link between homosexuality and the abuse crisis believe that this priest is making up stories? Why would he make up stories? What does he gain from it?

And is this report from Catholic News Agency made up? It exposes a rampant gay culture in the Archdiocese of Newark, where the homosexual predator Cardinal McCarrick was archbishop for a number of years:
Seminarians and priests from ordination classes spanning 30 years, during the terms of McCarrick and Myers, reported to CNA that they had observed an active homosexual subculture of priest and seminarians within Newark’s Immaculate Conception Seminary.

One priest ordained in the early years of McCarrick’s term in Newark said that “a lot of people lost their innocence in the seminary.”

He told CNA that there were two distinct groups of students. “You had the men who were there because they had a deep love of the Lord and a vocation to serve his Church,” he said, adding that those men were the majority of seminarians.

“But there was a subculture, with its own group of men, that was openly homosexual and petty and vindictive with everyone else,” he explained.

The same priest said that before he entered the seminary he was warned he would “see things that weren’t right.” He said he was counseled by an older priest to “just remember who you are and why you are there.”

Several Newark priests told CNA that the same atmosphere existed under Archbishop John Myers, who led the archdiocese from 2001-2016.

One priest who studied during that period recalled being told, as a newly arrived seminarian, to lock his bedroom door at night to avoid “visitors.”

“I thought they were kidding – they really weren’t,” he said.

Another priest told CNA that, as a senior seminarian and transitional deacon, young seminarians would come to him in tears.

“They were just so scandalized by what they saw, these upperclassmen flagrantly carrying on with each other in gay relationships.”

A third priest says that these seminarians were frequently visited by other priests of the diocese, some of whom he later saw at the rectory cocktail parties.

“There was definitely a group of, well I guess we’re calling them ‘uncles’ now. They would come by to visit with the effeminate crowd, bring them stuff and take them out,” he said.

If you're wondering what those "rectory cocktail parties" consisted of, here are a few details:
One recalled that he attended a cocktail party, thinking he had been invited to a simple priests’ dinner.

“I was led into the room to a chorus of wolf-whistles,” he said. “It was clear right away I was ‘on display.’”

Another priest told CNA that he was also invited to a party hosted by the priest. “They were all carrying big mixed drinks, pink ones, it was like something out of Sex in City.”

He recalled that after asking for a beer, he was told by his host, “you need to try something more girly tonight.”

All recounted overtly sexual conversation at the cocktail parties. “I was fresh meat and they were trying me out,” one priest said.

All three said they left quickly upon realizing what was going on.

“Everyone was getting loaded and getting closer on the couches, I wanted out of there,” a priest told CNA.

“Everyone kept calling me a ‘looker’ and saying they had to ‘keep me around’ from now on,” a third Newark priest told CNA.

The current Archbishop of Newark, Cardinal Tobin, released a letter denying the existence of a gay culture in the archdiocese. But before you decide whether to take him seriously, keep in mind that this is the same liberal Cardinal who endorsed an "LGBT pilgrimage and Mass" in Newark. And it is the same Cardinal who recently and mysteriously tweeted and then deleted, "Nighty, night baby. I love you." He claimed it was supposed to be a private message to his sister. I suppose it is possible that the liberal, gay-apologist Cardinal of an archdiocese where priests attend gay cocktail parties meant to send a private message like that to his 65-year-old sister, but a reasonable person may have his suspicions.

We must evaluate the sort of bishops and priests who are crying out about the problem of homosexuality within the priesthood, and the sort of bishops and priests who are denying that such a problem exists, and decide which group is more credible. Personally, I have a much easier time trusting Bishop Molino than Cardinal Nighty Night and his ilk.
And once we have accepted the fact that homosexuality represents a serious challenge within the priesthood, it begins to make sense that the great majority of abuse victims have been males. If homosexuality within the Church were not a problem, why wouldn't the great majority of abuse victims have been female, as per the distribution of sexual orientation within the population at large? To ignore a problem that contributes to the abuse of male children in the priesthood is politically correct at best, and dangerous at worst.

various TERFs #sexist#homophobia reddit.com

[Note: Comments in the thread “Actually, no, I won't date or waste my energy on 'Trans Men' or 'Non Binaries'.” by ToughTelephone]

(scienceisarealthing)

Where? Your sentiment is hardly new. It gets posted here daily. What you say is true, but I don’t see anyone here supporting TIFs unquestioningly. I see people pointing out that young GNC lesbian women are victims of transactivism and patriarchy, but that’s not the same thing.
Radical feminism is about tearing out the roots of oppression, and the root is patriarchy, not female victims of the system. Fuck Aunts and handmaidens, but they are the symptom, not the disease. This isn’t letting them off the hook, it’s just not playing the patriarchy’s game for it by never looking beyond the puppets to the dudes pulling the strings.

OP is right, unfortunately I don't have specific links but I have seen often on this sub where women here are berated for not being sympathetic to misogynistic TIF’s or considering them our “sisters”. It's not tearing down female victims of the system to not sympathize with women who actively harm other women.

The vast majority of women have some level of misogyny just from living under patriarchy. I wish all women could wake up from it and question those beliefs. I am sympathetic to confused women who are told to transition without being given other option for healing. The system is broken, thanks to the idiot activists and those in the medical industry wanting to profit. I’m sympathetic to people who suffer from all kinds of illness.

I’m not sympathetic to people who think they are better than other women because they are men now.

I have not seen someone being berated for not accepting a TIF. what kinds of threads does it come up?

I agree we should have sympathy for gnc women who are socially pressured into transitioning or felt they had no other option. I've seen threads (sorry don't have specific links) where women were told they were infighting, tearing apart the sisterhood, or being manipulated by the patriarchy, (and other things along those lines) for not supporting sexist, maladjusted TIF's.

To me, it seems like guilting women into performing emotional labor for misogynists with personality disorders, and I think it's a symptom of female socialization to have endless sympathy towards people who hate us and even want us dead. I think we can all agree we want feminism to benefit all women, even the horrible ones, but there's a limit to the amount of patience & attention women should give to manipulative, harmful people.

(georgiaokeefesgrotto)
Not from me. I've seen the Tifs and their idea of women as 'junk and udders'. I welcome them back into womanhood if they smarten up but many are cruder than truckers in a rest room on a long haul. Eff them.

(1984stardusta)
“The only reason everybody is talking about transgenders is because white men want to do it.”

Chappelle received lots of criticism for rhis joke, and more, for pointing that Mexicans or blacks wouldn't get the same treatment, genderism is a white problem.

I see no problem in people dressing up or behaving like the opposite sex, this is far from new, but I can't accept a bunch of privileged white men endorsing violence against women they will rebrand as TERFs and advocate for punching into silence. Normally women who identify as men won't do the same, so it is easier to talk with women.

But I can't start a conversation with anyone who will acuse me of feeling hate against a whole group, this is a coward accusation, without burden of proof, deeply ingrained in privilege of narrative and self entitlement from whom is so spoiled by their lack of real problems that they need to turn any dissenting voice into an imaginary enemy, they need to destroy competition, they need to be the leader of oppression Olympics even if it means to demean women.

So, being a person of color is a hard life, adding to the equation the false accusation that black women are killing white men when we don't say they are women whenever they feel like to be called so is unbearable.

Right? As a woman I’m tired of being silenced for saying anything about the trans community that isn’t “these people are the best people in the world”. This has a horrible effect on my mental health and view of self. Why are these bizarre new groups that everyone wants to talk about protected to the point that it’s hate speech to criticize or even question anything about them or what they say and do?

About transcommunity?

I can't say anything about myself.

When I say I am a biological woman I am offensive to who is not a woman and wants not only self identify as such, but also take leadership, precedence and dominance over my objective reality. On the same vein I should not use words as menstruation, breastfeeding and vagina but I need to accept meekly to be called a menstruator, and listen about chest feeding and fronthole.

I need to teach my kids to hide what they know about human biology, because I was taught it was replaced by wishful thinking.

I need to teach them to hide their knowledge, and shrink their passion about this subject to fit obscurantism.

And I need to pretend that black women and black men are subjected to more likelihood of being murdered then white men, even when they wear dresses.

I

(SCREECHES_AT_HERSELF)
I couldn't agree more. In my experience, trans men & female nonbinaries are commonly emotionally abusive, narcissistic, and hold some really gross beliefs. Some FTMs even go as far as to become stereotypical "women have it easy, it's men who suffer!" MRAs.

People like that are not worthy of my energy. They might be biologically female but that doesn't mean I owe them anything.

As for dating... I'm not attracted to male secondary sex characteristics (even if they're artificial) so no, I'm not interested in trans men. Plus the whole misogyny and "your personality dictates your sex" things are huge dealbreakers anyway.

Begone with this stupid belief that us women should have unwavering compassion for everyone, especially people who view us as lesser. No, I won't support trans men. No, being nonbinary is no better. No, I'm not going to get on my knees and kiss the toes of that "gender critical TIM" that people all think is such a gift to feminism.

(greynose_algebra)
I transitioned several years before I discovered radical feminism and became gender critical. I don't know if you would rather not hear what I have to say, but for what it's worth, I think your points are valid and I get where you're coming from.

No one is obligated to include trans people in their dating pool. No one is obligated to support/lift up/perform emotional labor for anyone at all.

No one should have to waste their time or energy on emotional vampires, no matter what their sex or gender-feelz.

You're not a bad feminist.

(Enjolraic)
It would depend on their beliefs on gender. I'm Internet friends with a TIF and she believes that biological sex is real and she's against calling women TERFs or advocating for violence against us. Basically she's a gender critical trans person. But she's a Marxist, and ideologically sound Marxists are hard to come by these days. Most TIFs seem to believe in tumblr politics, hate radfems and expect gay men to date them just because they cut their hair. Even if I was physically attracted to one, I would want nothing to do with someone with a completely different world view to mine.

I'd never want anything to do with NBs. It's one thing to have dysphoria about your sexual characteristics or be transed because of homophobia, but the entire notion of 'non-binary' is based purely on sexist stereotypes.

(Lemortjoyeux)
Some of them are just predatory as TIMs, usually the GAI BOIZ type who are basically straight women who wanted more oppression points or were so obessed by yaoi they decided to live out this fantasy. They get angry when only other TIFs date them because gay men don't take that bullshit. Local horrible TIF in my city is also a YouTuber spewing lies and distracting from others arguments because she doesn't have any argument other than "not accepting my gender identity hurts my feelings". God I hate her and she's one of the main reasons I don't associate with the local gay community.

(thewilloftheuniverse)
The only Transman i personally know was a friend from high school, who is a second generation Desi. I was especially struck at the fact that the male name she took was "Todd," exchanging her Indian female name for a white male name.

At the time it only made me confused and sad for her. Now it makes me angry too.

(Burnbookburner)
I know a Todd TIF... do you think they realize any grown man named Todd is a huge red flag?

(CatLadyActually)
How so? Is it like Chad?

David J. Stewart #fundie #homophobia lovethetruth.com

The homosexual lifestyle is really a “deathstyle.” Statistics Reveal 83% Of Homosexuals Have Had Sex With More Than 50 Partners (Gay love?) It is not surprising that America's fornicating “hook-up” culture no longer see the harm of homosexuality. Married couples, who honor God in a committed heterosexual relationship with each other, clearly see the horrible reality of homosexuality. However, the younger generation (who've have been indoctrinated by Hollywood and Walt Disney to have pre-marital sex, with dozens if not hundreds of sex partners) are desensitized to the awfulness of homosexuality. Satanic influences like Taylor Swift are destroying our youth. Homosexuality nearly always means having dozens, hundreds, even thousands of sex partners. The statistics cannot be erased! A disgusting 28% of homosexuals admitted to having over 1,000 sexual partners! Only an adulterer or fornicator with dozens of sex partners would see no harm, or defend, homosexuality (because they're all in the same boat)! Now you understand why Satan is relentlessly pushing sex, sex, sex on young people today, to demoralize them, so they'll go along with homosexuality, then incest and pedophilia, and ultimately sell their souls to worship (sexual perversion in the churches) the man of sin, the Anti-Christ! Think I'm kidding? Read about The Naked Cowboy (a pastor at Hillsong Church). Or how about this naked pastor in Virginia?

Think about this. If someone truly wanted to hurt you, they would hurt those whom you love. Usually this is a person's family. Well, Satan hates God and wants to hurt Him, so the Devil hurts the object of God's love, which is mankind. Satan loves to hurt God's children, the born-again Christian believer, to hurt the heart of our great God. Satan wants to destroy you my friend, because God loves you! God has no pleasure in the death of the wicked!

Our nation's pulpits died in the 1980's. Although fundamentalism surged for a time in the 1970's and thousands of Baptist churches were going strong by the late 1970's, the popularity of the new International Version (NIV) killed the churches, removing their authority. “PREACHING WITH AUTHORITY!” (MP3 sermon by Brother Roloff). America is going to hell. Sadly, too many youth today are bratty, undisciplined, lacking personal character, rude, bitter toward authority, sexually perverse, mentally confused, irresponsible, spiritually ignorant and without respect for elders. They are not saved! No one has told them about the Lord Jesus Christ.

Psyflora #wingnut #homophobia reddit.com

I'm gay and an alt-righter. I think gay people like myself should be accepted in society, especially because sexuality is not really a conscious choice. Both your genes and the environment you find yourself in contribute towards becoming gay over a long period of time, and not in a way you have direct conscious control over, so I find it immoral to strongly persecute people for it if they are not harming anybody else.

That said, homosexuality should not be directly promoted and often encouraged like it is now in western societies. This is because the homosexual lifestyle is one that, to an extent, undermines the traditional family structure that is extremely important for a sustainable society. Also, we've seen that homosexuals are more likely to take issue with other fundamentals to a sustainable society, especially because we've seen they are prone to pushing the narrative about how they are "oppressed" that leads down the road to Marxist thought. It's no coincidence that the vast majority of gay people are leftists that have fallen into various leftist hivemind communities. Therefore, we should be accepted but only to a limited extent and not pushed as role models or anything like that, whereas those practising the traditional family lifestyle should be promoted.

Mark Shea #fundie #homophobia patheos.com

Oh, and let me add—

People who say, “Sodom and Gomorrah were condemned, not for homosexual acts, but for lack of hospitality” really need to retire that ridiculous meme. The biblical text is pretty obvious. When the angels come to visit Lot in Sodom, he takes them in. “But before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, both young and old, all the people to the last man, surrounded the house; and they called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us, that we may know them.”

“Know” is the Hebraism for sexual intercourse. The story crackles with the menace of gay rape. The mob (whom the writer repeatedly emphasizes were men) “pressed hard against *the man* Lot”.
As Scott Hahn points out, the threat of homosexual rape is a particularly acute form of “inhospitality”.

So don’t kid yourself. Homosexual intercourse was regarded as gravely sinful in the Old Testament and Christianity receives that from the Jewish tradition. Few things are more tortured than the attempt to make the Bible a document in support of gay sex. It just ain’t. Tertullian, who had his own issues, was at least perceptive on this score when he said “What has Athens to do with Jerusalem?” Like it or not, the Christian tradition teaches that homosex is a grave sin.

Kevin Swanson #fundie #homophobia rightwingwatch.org

Radical anti-LGBTQ radio host and pastor Kevin Swanson said on his “Generations” radio program today that the wildfires that are ravaging California are God’s punishment on the state for its years of attempting to “legitimize the sin of homosexuality.”

“If you look at the history of California, they have been at the forefront of this,” he said. “The first gay pride march occurred in San Francisco in 1970 and then San Francisco legitimized homosexuality in 1972. In 1982, Laguna Beach, California, elected the first openly homosexual mayor in United States history. In 1999, California adopted a domestic partnership law; I believe it was one of the first in the nation to do that.”

“In 2005,” Swanson continued, “California state legislators became the first in the nation to pass a same-sex marriage law — In 2008, the California Supreme Court then struck down Prop 22 in regard to marriage cases, and Prop 8 also was struck down later on that year, I believe. In 2011, California became the first state to mandate homosexual indoctrination for K-8 students and then, in 2012, California became the first state to sign a ban on therapy that was attempting to convert homosexuals into non-homosexuals. And then, in 2017, the California state schools implemented the homosexual indoctrination program — and that was the kickoff for the biggest fires that California has ever seen in its history.”

“So God is burning down California in 2017 and 2018 after about 25 years of leading the pack to legitimize the sin of homosexuality in that state,” Swanson declared.

Hulka #forced-birth #homophobia freerepublic.com

Sooooo. . .this means you can abort homosexual babies. . .after all, people abort babies all the time so why not?

Don't want a girl? Abort. Don't want a boy? Abort? Don't want a homosexual? Abort.

Imagine the left twisting themselves into a Gordian knot over this subject. . .the left and their holy sacrament of abortion on demand (no restrictions), and the left also arguing abortion on demand (no restrictions unless the baby will be homosexual). Get the popcorn. . .

Shane Burgess #fundie #homophobia premier.org.uk

Shane Burgess: No Sodom and Gomora was destroyed because of homosexuality when the men of the city want to rape the men Lot took into his house not realizing they were angels. Roman talk about men having sex with men and women having sex with women when God hand them over to a debased mind. In Paul ever wrote in 1 Corinthians 6 that homosexuals will not inherit the kingdom of God. But that doesn't mean that there wont be former homosexuals because Jesus delivered them. Because their is a demonic spirit behind it that is take the power of the Holy Spirit to drive off. The book of Revelations talk against sexual immorality and homosexuality fall in it. I see homosexuality as any other sin. God hates it, so paid the price so people can be set free from it if they just come to Him. He love them but hate the sin because it separates people from Him.

Peter: Sodom was not destroyed because they were all gay but because they wanted to show hatred and dominance to strangers. Nor is sexual immorality in any way dependent on the sexuality of the people concerned. You are simply wrong.

Shane Burgess: Yes because wanting to rape men is really dominance and hatred to strangers. It was homosexual genius their sexual immorality caused judgement to come. They wouldn't of want to rape them if they where not homosexual. You have to be blind not to see that.

Petej: Are you suggesting that every man who has ever r@ped another man is a homosexual?!!!

Shane Burgess: Or bisexual which is just as bad. Any sex with an other man is forbidden. Any sex with someone you are not married to is forbidden. Plus rape all together is wrong in the first place.

Cvengr #fundie #homophobia freerepublic.com

Christianity doesn’t condone homosexuality, but instead, Scripture penalizes homosexuality with capital punishment. Murder is just as evil.

If murder had been legalized in the same fashion as homosexuality, as just being a different culture and perspective on the rights of murderers to exercise their intense desire to slaughter their fellow man, these stories wouldn’t be as sensational. One can argue that many Mafioso are really good people, they just enforce their laws differently than the police. Just look at how many charities Al Capone helped out.

Still doesn’t make him a legitimate good guy. Same with homosexuals. Not to mention, there are a large number of homosexuals seeking to use their adopted children in heinous activity.

Matt Walsh #fundie #homophobia theblaze.com

Dear Christians, it doesn’t matter how you feel. It matters what the Bible says.

Jen Hatmaker is a prominent Christian author and speaker. My wife tells me she had a show on HGTV for a while. These days, she’s apparently moved away from renovating homes to renovating Scripture.

That’s a problem, because unlike an old ranch-style house with ugly carpets and 1970’s wallpaper, God’s Holy Word doesn’t need any updates. It’s eternal, unchanging, and always right, no matter how we happen to feel about it.

Christians like Jen Hatmaker would do well to remember this. Especially if they’ve been given, or have claimed for themselves, a position of leadership in the faith. It’s a grave responsibility to be a Christian with an audience. As someone with an audience of my own, I know this well. If we contradict Christian teaching, if we misrepresent Christ’s commandments, if we lead people away from the truth and into the darkness, we have not only put their souls in jeopardy but our own. Christ says it would be better for us to drown in the sea with a stone tied around our necks than to cause someone else to stumble into sin. I believe He meant that quite literally.


That leads us to Hatmaker’s interview with Religion News this week.

When asked about gay “marriage,” Hatmaker declared that homosexuals have the “right” to marry members of the same sex. She said our churches should offer support and instruction to those in gay “marriages.” In other words, she believes that churches should not only accept the abomination of gay “marriage,” but actively facilitate it. When asked if she would attend a gay “wedding,” she said she’d be there with “gladness,” ready to pop the champagne and celebrate their sin with them. She said that if her own child turned out to be gay, she would want him to enter a “faithful, committed marriage” with another man. And, in final act of heresy, she announced that gay sexual relationships are “holy.”

This is the Gospel according to Jen Hatmaker. Many supposed Christians in our culture have a similar Gospel. But it may be useful to pause here and reflect on what the Actual Gospel has to say on the subject. Indeed, we either believe that the Bible is the infallible word of God or we don’t. If we don’t, then we shouldn’t be writing books and giving interviews and going on TV and speaking in front of crowds while waving the “Christian” banner. We should renounce the faith, declare ourselves agnostic or atheist or whatever, and then we’ll be free to promote moral relativism and hedonism all we want. We’ll still be wrong, but at least we’ll no longer be heretics. But if we do actually accept the Bible as the unalterable and eternal truth, then we must make sure that we aren’t publicly contradicting it.

So, for the benefit of those Christians who think Scripture was silent on the issues of marriage and sexuality, here are a few relevant passages:

“Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” – 1 Corinthians 6:9

“For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.” – Romans 1:26

“Now we know that the law is good, if any one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for murderers of fathers and murderers of mothers, for manslayers, immoral persons, sodomites, kidnappers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine” – 1 Timothy 1:8

“Just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise acted immorally and indulged in unnatural lust, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire.” – Jude 7

Hatmaker called gay relationships “holy,” which means divine, while the Apostle Paul called them degrading and unnatural, and promised that anyone who practices homosexuality and does not repent will be barred from the Kingdom of God. As Christians, we are left to ponder who is a greater authority here: The Apostle Paul or the lady from HGTV.

Now, you may struggle with the Biblical teaching on homosexuality, just as you may struggle with any other teaching. You may not understand it. You may find it harsh and difficult and emotionally distressing. But before we even get into explaining why the Bible says what it says, all we really need to establish is that it does say it. Period. We are commanded by God to accept this teaching or risk losing our souls. It’s not an option. We are not required to follow Christ only in the areas where we can find mutual agreement with Him. Our consent and agreement does not matter. At all. Not one tiny bit. We are called to follow regardless. That’s what it means to love God.

If Mrs. Hatmaker finds herself grappling with doubt and uncertainty about this teaching or any other, she should pray about it, consult her pastor, read Scripture, read Christian apologetics on the topic, pray some more and then pray again. She should do all of this in private, speaking only with close Christian friends and mentors who may be able to help her sort through it. But what she should not do — what she absolutely cannot do — is stand in front of the world and declare these teachings moot just because she finds them distasteful. How she feels about them personally is of no consequence. She is not God. Her thoughts and feelings don’t become reality just because they entered into her head.

Obedience is not emphasized in churches very often these days, but it should be. Obedience to God means following Him, standing by Him, affirming His teachings at all times, even when we struggle to understand them. We are commanded to submit to God. Submit. That means give in to His Word and His Law, no matter how it makes us feel.

So, why is gay marriage wrong? Well, first of all, because He said so. I know that reason will not be enough to convince unbelievers outside of the church, but for Christians, if we intend to continue being Christian, it is reason enough. “Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding,” Proverbs reminds us. If you don’t understand why God condemns the homosexual act, that’s because you lack wisdom and insight. It’s not because God is wrong. Don’t rely on your own understanding. Trust God. That’s the fundamental problem with Christians who try to “update” the sexual morality of the Bible: They don’t trust God. They don’t believe Him. And if they don’t believe Him, it’s hard to see how they could really believe in Him.

But if we do want to understand why God has declared the homosexual act a sin — even if the why of God doesn’t matter nearly as much as the what — I would recommend that we do three things:

First, read the first chapter of Genesis. God looked at Adam alone on Earth and decided that he needed a partner. It is not good for man to be alone, He said, so he made Eve. This tells us that men and women were, in a very intimate and profound way, made for each other.

Second, read the early passages in the Gospels. Christ was born of a woman and raised by His mother and His earthly father. We call Jesus, Mary, and Joseph the “Holy Family,” but you might also call them the “correct” or “true” family. If we want to know what a family is supposed to look like — and if all of the Biblical words and commands and teachings on the subject are somehow not enough — then we need only observe the physical, literal demonstration God provided for us. He said, “Here is a family, THE family. Make your families like this one.” How much clearer could He be?

Third, read Matthew 19. Jesus, casting away any lingering doubts, describes a lawful marriage in detail: “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’ and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

According to the Son of God, a marriage occurs when a man is united to his wife and the two become one flesh. There you go. There it is. There’s the truth. What part of “man united to his wife” is difficult to understand?

These three passages are especially important because they tell us something about the nature of things. Marriage has a certain nature. It serves a certain function. It does certain things and exists for certain reasons, and those things and those reasons and those functions are all made clear by God and His prophets and Apostles. If we read the Bible, we come to understand that gay “marriage” is not simply immoral, but intrinsically impossible. It doesn’t just defy God’s commandments, it defies logic. Speaking of gay “marriage” is like speaking of “dry water” or “rectangular triangles.” It’s simply incoherent.

Now, there are many aspects of the faith that I find challenging and mysterious. Personally, for me, this isn’t one of them. It all seems quite sensible and utterly consistent with the innate moral intuition that all human beings possess. But even if I couldn’t see the logic in Biblical marriage and even if I couldn’t intuit it based on natural law, it would still be just as true, and I would be called to affirm it and profess it all the same. There are many concepts that my puny little brain can’t seem to wrap itself around, but that’s why I must lean on God’s understanding. Not mine. And certainly not Jen Hatmaker’s.

So I would ask Mrs. Hatmaker what she believes has happened in the last few years that all of a sudden changes the fundamental nature of marriage? What exactly have we learned, in our modern and enlightened state, that even Jesus Christ did not know? What is the truth that we’ve discovered that debunks the truth given to us by God Almighty? Yes, a lot of us have icky feelings about Biblical sexual morality, but feelings aren’t truth.

Of course I’m being a bit flippant. Nothing has happened or can ever happen to debunk or disprove God’s truth. All that can happen is that we, in our weakness and stupidity, become blinded to it. And if we are blind then we should pray to have our eyes opened. But until that happens, all we can do is follow God’s voice in the darkness, wherever it leads. That, we should always remember, is the very essence of faith.

Mark Jones #fundie #homophobia markjones1388.com

On April 9, 2018, The Social, a YouTube channel linked to BBC Scotland, released a video entitled Homophobia in 2018 | Time For Love. The video is a propaganda piece for the liberal view being pushed on society at the moment. That view being, that love is love and we all should be able to experience it — no matter the cost.

In our current cultural climate, we live in a day and age where people are being convinced to believe this lie that love is anything you want it to be — no restrictions, no hindrances, and no judgement. Well, at least no inbound judgement on those who live their lives according to these principles. The reality though is largely different to what you’ve been told.

The video this article focuses on is worth watching so that you know the kinds of argumentation being used against anyone who does not blindly affirm the mantra of the LGBT+ propaganda machine. As the arguments in this video are the standard ones you will find, shame-mongering, judgement, iffy looks, and hate all rear their heads here. But there is one particular line of argumentation I want to pick up on here. That being the argument used against Christians. Let’s look at this by reviewing a quote that is featured in the film:

“And a Bible basher rehashing lies about Jesus like how Poundland rip off Mini Cheddars and sell them on as Cheese Savouries. Because it seems to me that Jesus saved a lot of time when He died for all crimes that He would’ve wasted teaching small minds that love is no sin. See him, he thinks it’s faith but under all that din, it tastes like cardboard and it smells like hate.”

Notice straight away the condemnation within that statement, “and a BIBLE BASHER”, the label of Bible Basher is a negative label. One put upon Christians who stick strictly to the word of God, sticking to it in a way that raises the ire of those who don’t see it in the same light as them. But the thing that really strikes me in this argument as being the thing we need to spot easily and be able to combat whenever is needed. That being the claim that those who object to homosexuality are telling “rehashed lies about Jesus” and as a result pushing an inauthentic faith on to anyone who may be listening. See this is a key strategy for the LGBT+ agenda, it’s a strategy that seeks to convince people that Christians are getting what Jesus said wrong, and are pushing prejudice and hate rather than love which is what Jesus was apparently all about. In reality, this is a similar strategy that the devil used to persuade Adam and Eve to eat the fruit in the Garden of Eden, back in Genesis 3:1 — using the argument of “did Jesus (or God) really say that?”

We see in the next part of the quotation why this argument is used. It’s not to show fault with our worldview. It’s not even to show fault with Christianity. It all boils down to a desire for affirmation — even at the cost of one’s faith. Now hear me out here, the people pushing these types of arguments, they know that the end result of those who take liberalism to its natural conclusion is atheism. However, there are many who blindly regurgitate these arguments, who don’t know the web of lies they’ve stepped into blindly. Taking that comment into context, who’s the authority here? It’s self, “and to me, it seems”, this is the phrase that holds this video together. It’s all about me! Me, myself, and I.

Ultimately the LGBT+ agenda is based on a selfishness that seeks to persuade the masses of love, niceness, and selflessness. Something that isn’t really the case, and is merely a faulty portrayal of the false reality those pushing this agenda want you to blindly believe.

All of this, and the video leads me to ask a question of us, one that I will answer here from my view, but one I would like you to think through and answer as well — that question being is it really homophobic to object to homosexuality?

Is It Really Homophobic to Object to Homosexuality?

To answer this question we need to understand two things, the first being what the world tells us homophobia is. And secondly, what homophobia really is — because they’re actually very different.

According to Websters Dictionary, homophobia is the irrational fear of homosexuality. The dictionary does include now the aversion to and/or the discrimination of homosexuals as part of the definition. However, this seems to be an updated definition of the term, as the notion of the aversion to is relatively new in terms of phobias.

Simply put, homosexuality is the irrational fear of homosexuals and/or homosexuality. This contrasts greatly with the variation of the definition, which simply means anyone who disagrees with homosexuality.

This definition of the term homophobe from Urban Dictionary really makes this note of mine very clear:

“Someone who repeatedly whines that homosexuals endanger family values and the sanctity of marriage until outed as a closet case, desperately afraid of the gay person looking back in the mirror.”

Notice how within that statement, there is an element of judgement. A line of thinking that says that no one can judge someone who practices homosexuality without making them the enemy.

So, what’s the answer to this question? Is it really homophobic to object to homosexuality?

The answer to this question is a resounding NO! See, God has defined homosexuality in His word as being sinful, and like with any other sin, it would be like saying we can’t question someone who commits murder, or someone who steals, or someone who commits adultery. And I could continue. Essentially by saying that someone is homophobic for objecting to homosexuality, it means that no sin on the planet should be questioned due to the precedent it sets.

So yes, we can question homosexuality, we can ask honest and open questions about it. We should not be deterred by this liberal agenda seeking to judge anyone who disagrees with them, while crying out for tolerance.

In future posts, I will aim to unpack this subject of homosexuality and the Bible further. As well as many other subjects.

InebriatedIrish #homophobia incels.is

I dislike homosexuals for going against nature’s ways. Homosexuals would die off without spreading their genes because they wouldn’t mate. Now, we let homosexuals run around in drag on our streets. I don’t personally hate homosexuals, but they’re abominations, like me.

Adam Ford #fundie #pratt #homophobia adam4d.com

Jesus, Paul and the theological liberal

Jesus: And if your eye causes you to sin, tear it out. It is better for you to enter the Kingdom of God with one eye than with two eyes to be thrown into Hell, where the worm never dies and the fire never quenches. (Matthew 9:47)

Strawman: Whoawhoawhoa Jesus, WHOAAA! Don't you know what that sounds like to people ?

(=Addressing the audience=)

Strawman: Alright guys, so check it out. I know that sounded super bad, but Jesus didn't REALLY mean what it seemed like he obviously meant with all that ugly sin and hell and fire and stuff. There's metaphors, smiles and just WAIT until you here about this one garbage dump...

Next panel.

Paul: Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, - (1 Corinthians 6:9)

Strawman: PAUL! Wait man! Did you really have to include THAT one ?

(=Addressing the audience=)

Strawman: Alright guys, wow, yeah that def sounded waay not OK. I know it sounds like Paul was talking about men who practiced homosexuality when he said "Men who practiced homosexuality" but there are different ways of looking at it, lemme just explain it to you okay ?

Next panel.

Jesus: Just as Jonah spent three days and nights in the belly of a fish, so will the Son of Man spend three days and nights in the heart of- (Matthew 12:40)

Strawman: (bursts out laughing) JESUS! So embarrassing!!! Please just stop now and let me explain this to people.

(=Addressing the audience=)

Strawman: I know Jesus just validated as literal one of the craziest sounding stories of the Old Testament but listen: he didn't mean it LITERALLY, you know ? Jesus would never say something that contradicts science - he's just referring to this story as, like, a Jewish legend or something. Everyone knows there's no way a dude could live inside a huge fish for three days! Even God can't make that happen.

Next panel.

Paul: But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. (1 Galations 8:9)

Strawman: PAUL! BRO! Harsh sounding for reals.

(=Addressing the audience=)

Strawmen: Wow Paul can be an animated fellow huh! I know that sounded pretty bad but listen, it's not as it seems: God's love is big enough to cover ALL people and by what I mean by that is whatever you or o want to be true about God and how he deals with people is true. Okay :)

Next panel.

Jesus: Whoever is ashamed of me and my words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of them when he comes in his glory and in the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. (Luke 9:26)

Strawman: JESUS! Ugh, that sounds so bad!!!

(=Attempts to address the audience=)

Strawman: Alright look, Jesus didn't really mean that he just... (Pauses before glancing to the side) Hey you didn't really mean that, right ?

Houseman #fundie #homophobia patheos.com

(=A respone to a homosexual interpretation of the centurion and his servant=)

he account takes all the things stated by the comments into account, but all forget one thing..Jesus! Jesus knew what he was doing, not snookered by the elders or the centurion. He knew the Mosaic law about homosexuality he knew the authority behind it, his Father. so if what is being said he healed a gay man, this is incorrect. In each example during his 3 and a half year ministry Jesus never once was in accomplice in ones sins but told never to do it again. forgave them and directed them toward another path. Never to keep something sinful going. Jesus knew the heart of the centurion and if what is being said, Jesus would not have healed the 'pais', it would have been against everything he stood for, even the love his own Father is. Ones want love to continue to cover all sins, even while we keep doing them, but the time will come when God will not cover us with mercy and love but remove evil, wickedness and sin from this earth. That is love, not keep picking us up, but truly teaching us how to walk without falling. Not feeding us crumbs, but teaching us how to feed ourselves fully. This is true love!

Peter LaBarbera #fundie #homophobia rightwingwatch.org

Peter LaBarbera Is Upset ‘Love, Simon’ Did Not Mention The ‘Judgment Of God’ On Gay People

Anti-LGBTQ activist Peter LaBarbera was, unsurprisingly, not a fan of the new gay teenage romance film “Love, Simon,” complaining to Religious Right radio host Janet Mefferd on Tuesday that the film fails to promote a “religious message” and does not warn audiences that gay people face a life of physical and mental illness “and of course the judgment of God.”

LaBarbera joined Mefferd on Tuesday to weigh in on the release of “Love, Simon,” which is a romantic comedy film that features a 17-year-old boy who reveals his sexual orientation to his friends and family and falls in love with a classmate. LaBarbera, who has long been livid about the entertainment industry advancing LGBTQ causes, shared with Mefferd what he saw to be “three myths” promoted in the film.

“Number one is that being homosexual—quote-unquote ‘gay’—is basically who you are, intrinsically who you are. You know, if that line just happens to be gay. That’s number one. Number two, that there’s a total mutual equivalence between homosexual romances and the gay lifestyle and normal, heterosexual living, so it’s presented as totally equal. Number three, that parental love, the way they love their son after he comes out and declares his homosexuality or they find out, the parents, is they just basically express regret they didn’t know earlier,” he said. “There’s no sorrow. There’s no religious message at all in the movie, Janet, and there’s nothing that says any disapproval.”

LaBarbera said he believed the movie was “like a Disney gay movie” that was made for teenagers before complaining that “there’s no aftermath after this boy finds his quote-unquote ‘gay’ romance.”

“We’re never going to hear later about the diseases associated with homosexuality that he likely would get, mental illness, and of course the judgment of God,” LaBarbera said.

Mefferd asked LaBarbera to expand on what he meant when he referred to mental illness, to which LaBarbera responded by promoting the book “The Health Hazards of Homosexuality,” published by the anti-gay group MassResistence. He claimed that conditions like HIV are now “gay male diseases,” claiming that this is the case “because homosexual behavior is a perversion like God says it is, it is deviant, it is not normal.”

LaBarbera also said he was upset that “Love, Simon” posed the question of why heterosexual people don’t have to come out as “straight” to their friends and family. He answered the question by saying it was “because that’s the way God designed it.”

“It’s so basic and yet Hollywood is doing everything it can now. We’re going to see more and more movies like this. And Janet, this is the first major teen homosexual romance film to be a big box-office hit. And so this is, again, Hollywood is trying to mainstream sexual sin,” LaBarbera said.

Jon Davis #fundie #homophobia youtube.com

(=Progressive vs Homophobic Christian=)

Jon Davis: Still missed it!! Jesus addressed this DIRECTLY. Right here!
Matthew 19:4-5
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’
One only need to reference THE DESIGN to understand THE PERVERSION.

blind poet38: Not necessarily true. Translated into English, the Bible condemns homosexuality. But looking at the original text, the Hebrew word that is used is very vague. And Jesus never said that gay people couldn't get married, but it was just God's design that they don't get married.

Jon Davis: "Do not have sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman; that is detestable" is not a word, it is a description to eliminate the confusion.
Jesus didn't need to say that "gay people can't get married", he referenced the design and that settled it. One only need to reference THE DESIGN to understand THE PERVERSION.
Penis is designed for vagina. *blush* Vagina is for penis. *blush* Anus is for pooping. *pffrrt*
It's not homophobia. It's basic biology.

blind poet38: If it is basic biology, how is it that scientists have found over 1500 animal species that practice homosexual acts. You are just assuming homosexuality is a sin. But the Bible really does not say that. And I am a Christian by the way.

Jon Davis: It is basic biology because that is how we procreate, and to do things differently promotes bad health (bleeding butts anyone?) and is not conducive to humankind's continuity.
Animals do all kinds of disgusting things. Dogs eat poop. Cats pee on clothes. Are you just an animal? No. Mankind was made in God's image.
As for everything else you just said ("You are just assuming homosexuality is a sin" etc) you're obviously trolling. I just quoted the text that called it "detestable". And while neither Old nor New Testaments use the term "homosexual" (a term that modern English coined) they both describe the sexual act and describe it with disgust and contempt.

blind poet38: You can think I am trolling if you want to, but you have to understand that the original Hebrew uses terminology that is not as clear-cut as people think it is when it deals with condemning homosexuality.

Jon Davis: Read the OP. Matthew 19:4-5 has no dependency upon Leviticus 18:22; indeed it goes the other way around. You're barking at the wrong argument. I myself was trolled by actually responding to it.

blind poet38: Sorry dude, I don't get your point. All I am saying is that in the original Hebrew, the word that is used is not as clear-cut as people think it is to condemn homosexuality.

Jon Davis: Now you're spamming. Stop repeating yourself. Even if it was true, it's irrelevant, and I already explained why. Now go read Romans 1:18-32 (originated as Greek, not Hebrew), study it with an exhaustive study Bible which provides insight on the original language, and come back when you've studied more than the ridiculous false "truths" and FUD you've found on the Internet.

blind poet38: You can be dismissive all you want, and that is fine. But why is it irrelevant? We are talking about homosexuality and the Bible aren't we?

blind poet38: It is obvious you have no answers to anything. I have already done the research.

AskariStudios: But God Said that all sex outside of Marriage is wrong. Since Marriage is in between only a man and a women. this makes homosexuality wrong. in no way shap or form has marriage ben said to take place between a man and a man or a woman and a woman. ONLY a MAN and a Woman.this has been stated numerous times in the bible. Not only this but in Levitcus, it is clear stated that homosexuality is an abomination. clear cut. in Jude, it its written that Sodom and Gomorrah gave themselves up to sexual perversion (homosexuality) and where thus made an example of. So with Just Common Logic, and the fact that through multiple translations, the same wording has shown up., its clear that the bible is against homosexuality.

blind poet38: The Bible never says that sex outside of marriage is a sin.

Jon Davis: "Fornication" is quite elaborately spoken against. That you would say such a thing speaks volumes about modern society being so casually hedonistic; sex outside of marriage was universally taboo and expected to be everyone's struggle, it didn't need to be spelled out in detail like it spelled out homosexuality, it was simply referred to as "fornication".
http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Bible-Verses-About-Fornication/
http://www.openbible.info/topics/fornication
http://www.gotquestions.org/sex-before-arriage.html

AskariStudios: 1 Cor 7 states : "Now concerning the matters about which you wrote: t“It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband." Its clear that Paul(I do believe he wrote this) implies that Sex before marriage is sexual immorality and that do to this temptation, a man should marry.
want more proof? look up : (Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7) and Hebrews 13:4.

blind poet38: The only sexual sins that are mentioned in the Bible are adultery, incest and sex with animals. Fornication means "sexual sin." Which sins? Adultery, incest and sex with animals. Premarital sex is not mentioned as a sin.

Jon Davis: "Fornication" does not mean "sexual sins in general". It means "extramarital sex". If you want to discuss Greek or Hebrew, say so, but you didn't. Look up the word and stop speaking assertions about our English words when you don't even know your own English language.

blind poet38: Fornication does not mean "extramarital sex." That is what someone told you it means. Fornication means "sexual sin." Learn the facts.

Jon Davis: There's a fine line between idiocy and trolling. That line is knowledgable intent. I'm not sure what you're doing in your case. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fornication

blind poet38: OK Jon, you are right. Translated into English, premarital sex is a sin, despite the fact that Solomon and David and Samson, etc etc etc all did it and were never punished for it in the Bible. But the question is in the NT,, what does porneia mean? That is not the Greek word for adultery or any specific sexual sin. It generally means any kind of sexual immorality. And what is sexual immorality in the Bible? Adultery and incest and sex with animals.

Jon Davis: what do you mean "they weren't punished for it"? OT figures who engaged in fornication took a pounding for it. Most of their stories are used as case lessons for the hell people go through when they do it.
To answer your question: Fundamentally, in the Bible there are only two types of sex: sex within marriage (one man and one woman) and sexual immorality, porneia. Read the OP in this thread if you don't understand.

JD Greear #fundie #homophobia charismanews.com

Pastor: Preaching Against Homosexuality Akin to Preaching Against Slavery

Baptist pastor said at the denominations summit earlier this week.

The setting was the Southern Baptist Convention’s Ethics and Religious Liberty summit. The topic: preaching about homosexuality in the gay rights era.

Summit Church’s Pastor J.D. Greear certainly got the audience's attention when he started making comparisons between preaching against homosexuality in modern days to preaching against slavery in the 1800s.

With the hashtag #erlcsummit, RNS’s Sarah Pulliam Bailey quoted Greear on Twitter as saying, “Preaching against homosexuality is about as popular as preaching against slavery in South Carolina in the 1800s.”

Another tweeter, Ruth Graham (@publicroad) wrote, “@jdegreear compares preaching against homosexuality today to preaching against slavery in South Carolina in 1861."

So who is this brave pastor? Greear became the pastor of a church called Homestead Heights Baptist Church in 2002. According to his bio, he led a 40-year-old, plateaued church of 300 to re-launch itself with a new name and a new vision to reach its community and world with the gospel. Now, over 8,000 worshippers gather weekly, making The Summit Church one of Outreach magazine’s “top 25 fastest-growing churches in America” for several years running.

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Ok, I do not like this comparison. Slavery wasn't a choice but homosexuality is. The atrocities that slavery put against a group of people and the aftershocks are astounding. Has anyone been killed for speaking against homosexuality??

Martin #fundie #homophobia premier.org.uk

No, Campolo is not an Evangelical, he doesn't consider the Bible is the infallible word of God, nor is Steve Chalke.

Big deal, he's a sociologist. Sociology is sub Christian.

How can the fact that there are babies born now to single parent families be relevant to the number of homosexuals now?

Bad upbringing can be a cause of adult behaviour. Parents know this and good parents make the effort to bring children up properly.

To say that homosexual men don't change is a lie. Indeed Scripture tells us that the change:

Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
(I Corinthians 6:9-11 [ESV]) My emphasis

And no, the Bible doesn't say immediately before the statement that being a homosexual is an abomination to God that touching the skin of a dead pig is an abomination. It comes toward the end of a list of sexual acts that are forbidden. Campolo is lying.

Clearly Campolo is ignoring the fact the the Old Testament has different categories of laws, the moral code which always applies and the ceremonial code that ceased with creation of the Church.

What he describes as a 'gay' boy being bullied sounds like the sort of bullying those experience who are weak and bad at sports, and we only have his word that Roger was 'gay'. And why, if he were, should that make any difference? There are plenty of homosexuals around who appear to be good at sports, I suspect this story is made up.

He gives us the lie that Jesus says nothing about homosexuality, the whole Bible is God's word and Jesus is God, so those passages in Leviticus, Romans and 1 Corinthians are all Jesus' words.

And then he tells us that if we aren't selling all we have and giving to the poor we aren't doing what Jesus commanded, that is ignoring the context. Jesus gave that command to one person only for a specific reason, it wasn't a command to all.

His concept of marriage is flawed. He thinks it is about mutual improvement, yet at the heart of it is the sexual union, something that two persons of the same gender can never have.

Compassion seeks to save the sinner from their sin, treating the homosexual as if they are righteous is not compassion, it is hatred.

David J. Stewart #fundie #homophobia jesus-is-savior.com

One man, named Marco, approached me on the bus while I was in West Hollywood for surgery in 2009. Marco was friendly and a nice person, but as we conversed, he brought up the topic of homosexuality. He said that he had lived in San Francisco for 12 years. He said that he didn't have a problem with homosexuality. I replied, “Well I do.” An African American woman sitting across the bus isle gave me a dirty look, like, how dare you! Marco was testing me, to see how I felt about homosexuality. I have had this happen to me numerous times by gays, who test people to see where they stand on the issue. It's important that we as God's children (that is, as Bible-believing, born-again, blood cleansed, Christ-honoring, Christians) don't allow homosexuals to force us into their sick and perverted mindset.

By telling Marco that I disapproved of homosexuality, that spoke volumes concerning where I stood morally on the matter. He chose quickly to change the topic, which is what I wanted. Learn to tell gays that you are NOT ok with it. The more that you stand up for the truth, the less problems you will have with them. If you fail to address the issue right away, you may have a homosexual trying to become closer to you, likely with sex on their agenda. Gays frequently test people to see where they stand, because they're looking for like-minded perverts. They may mistake your kindness as weakness or God forbid, queerality (that a new word I just invented). Truly, homosexuals are queer as can be, which is an abomination in God's eyes. An abomination is a sin coupled with disgust. It's something that really upsets the Lord and provokes His anger.

Please realize that homosexuals, cross-dressers and transvestites all come from the same rotten fruit bowl. They're sick spiritually. Television has been portraying gays as two handsome young men with charming personalities sharing a public kiss. I agree with comedian George Carlin who said, “I'll never understand how any man can look at another man's hairy a*s and say, 'I think I'm in love.'” Homosexuals are weirdoes, perverts and sick-minded people. The most unsettling thing is the large number of homosexuals and lesbians that are now in high positions of government, judges and law enforcement. Genesis 19 is right around the corner! From the youngest to the oldest, Sodom's homosexuals forcefully laid siege against Lot's home, trying to break the door down to sodomize the Christians. If it happened then, it can happen again, and will, it's just a matter of time.

Jim Kirkwood #fundie #homophobia premier.org.uk

This man should make his mind up. Does he want to contend for the Gospel of Jesus Christ or not. He must take a stand against the LGBT Nazi agenda and be seen doing it. We are not, as Christians, called to be invisible and silent. The Bible is clear on the subject of Homosexual behaviour, despite the persistent denials of the homosexuals and their sympathisers on this forum. Scripture has been quoted over and over again and they reject it because they love their sin and have no intention of being born again. Homosexual practice is an abomination to God. End of debate!

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