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Julie92845 #transphobia #senpai_noticed_us ovarit.com

RE: Ovarit is often featured on FSTDT!

(Julie92845)
I don't know if I can post directly to it, but FSTDT stands for Fundies Say the Darndest Things. It's a sad shadow of its former self, but it's a collection of posts from religious nuts and right wingers from all over the internet. And Ovarit is often quoted for our anti-trans comments.

The best part is that people can comment on our quotes, and you'll find a lot of good stuff for o/translogic there as well. I've been having fun reading through them and seeing their insane takes, like we are denying reality and substituting our own.

"A Penis is a Fucking Weapon" Award

Some classics never really fade away.

various commenters #transphobia #sexist ovarit.com

RE: Men use their penises as literal weapons of war, but we should be fine with them in our spaces.

( femlez34 )
100%. TIMs will say, "well we're not 'men' so that doesn't apply to us", but then in the same breath will threaten feminists with rape to try and get them back in line. I don't think they even realize how much they do this, it's so ingrained in their DNA.

( pepperbeth )
We have to start waking up - sexual violence is a huge motivator for many men, maybe "not all men" but huge numbers. Some will say "oh rape is about sex" "oh rape is about power" but let's allow men some intersectional analysis - sexual power is highly arousing to men. Dominating and harming others is arousing to men. They will watch violence in porn, they will enact it in the bedroom, they will buy slave women to harm for their own orgasms, and they will rape women and children, including their own fucking brothers and sisters, and they become especially aroused and predatory when when war grants them opportunity to rape many vulnerable potential victims.

Do women get aroused by the suffering of others? Not even Aileen Wournos can rival the most average of prostitute-murdering men. The penis isn't the scary part, it's the whole goddamn man.

( Fluffy_gender )
Yes, that's why I find it ridiculous when people say "rape/sex abuse is not about sex, it's about power". Well, power is indeed very sexualized for men...

( Pointer )
Men do seem to have "rape software" pre-installed. Makes sense from an evolutionary standpoint. They are actually able to maintain an erection and have an orgasm while penetrating someone who is screaming and crying in pain. It's crazy.

( Gladys_Kravitz )
Men are carrying loaded weapons at all times, and we're supposed to trust them completely and give them endless chances. It's fucking insane.

Edit: this is why self defense laws are such bullshit and deliberately harmful to women. We literally cannot act in self defense the way a man can. He can kill us with his bare hands in the heat of the moment, we cannot.

Fuck man, they literally kill us with their penises during violent rapes. There is no possibility of a woman killing a man using only her vulva/vagina, it's not the same act at all.

Trust no male, especially one that REALLY wants to violate your boundaries.

Various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

(sicktodeath)
The Russian soldiers who are raping little girls in Ukraine sure seem to know what makes us female.
I lost the link, but read on Twitter that girls under 10 are coming into the hospitals in Ukraine with rectal/vaginal tearing.

And of course older girls and women are also being raped regularly.

Turns out everyone knows exactly what it means to be a woman/girl when they want to rape us.

( Misssarcasm )
In my eyes the raped women and girls have it worse than the killed men.

I wonder what the many many "transwomen" say to this. If they feel jealous.

( omerta )
In war people expect women to be raped, it's just a a casual thing that happens as a result.

When it happens to men/boys, on the other hand, that's when it becomes an atrocity, a terrible human rights violation, etc. etc. because men are supposed to die with dignity during war while women suffer and are humiliated.

A non-passing TIM would be clocked and likely murdered, not raped, although many of them may fantasize about it. I don't think any passing TIM would be able to pass military fitness tests (would gain too much muscle) so that's not something they care much about.

( Snowy )
I have no doubt some of them actively fantasize about it.

( Gladys_Kravitz )
It's part of the perks of joining the military. It's been known for thousands upon thousands of years.

( pennygadget )

I wonder what the many many "transwomen" say to this. If they feel jealous.

They'd say: "Just tell the Russian soldiers you identify as a boy and that raping you would be gay!"

various commenters #transphobia #senpai_noticed_us ovarit.com

RE: Ovarit is often featured on FSTDT!

( crispycherrypie )
People who live on the internet, without a shred of irony: "Wow, there are a lot of lifelong leftists coming out as fundie Christians. Could it be that I'm mistaken, that I'm misinformed?

...No, it's the bigots who think males shouldn't be in women's spaces who are wrong."

( crodish )
I'm surprised none of them have peaked reading us.

We aren't anti-trans, we're anti-lying.

( Nibaiz )
Some of them really like futa porn and they don't want to be called gay about it. Ha.

( NewMa )
I'm scared to google that.

( Gladys_Kravitz )
Futa is just "chicks with dicks" but an anime version.

( TheDirtyYumejo )
Unfortunately most of those people are so far up their own ass with their beliefs that no amount of logic can save them, they'll block it out at any cost.

( Gladys_Kravitz )
Because ironically, they're very religious.

( Committing_Tervery )
I’m sure some have probably peaked, but they are too afraid to say it on the website. Or perhaps they got banned, or the comments were removed.

These people (just like those on r/GenderCynical, a sub making fun of r/GenderCynical) also frame our stuff or take it out of context and misrepresent our views though. They try to make us look as bad as possible.

( sojourner_truth_ )
For a lot of people, the sole reason they are on Team Trans is because they think the only people opposed to transition are religious. I see similar "logic" being used in Eastern Europe when it comes to gay rights. A lot of people think the only reason to oppose is religion, so therefore they support it just because they hate Christianity so much.

( strawberryfields4evr )
Imagine our posts being peppered in between people fantasizing about raping children, violent misogyny and homophobia.

( Committing_Tervery )

people fantasizing about raping children, violent misogyny and homophobia

Sounds like TIMs to me. Checks all the boxes

( ladyagatha )
Omg. When I first read this, I assumed the target of the ridicule was the TRAs, not the people on this site with common sense. Amazing. Yeah, we’re the fundamentalists alright 🤣

various commenters #interphobia #transphobia #sexist ovarit.com

RE: Genuine conundrum about certain people with CAIS

( Positronic_waves )
Sorry for this person, but I want to be kind to women. That means being unkind to men, rapists and in the very rare minority and some unfortunate souls with CAIS. If you never develop correctly as a man, it doesn't mean you are a woman. We are not a faulty male. Caster [Semenya] is a guy, who lived like a male except for competitions then he is a woman. I think natal sex is important, then puberty levels. If we have to exclude some CAIS people to let women win at something, we should do it. They say it never happens until they had 11 CAIS men winning womens athletics. When the difference is -10% of performance not being born a woman actually matters.

( Wokeuplate )
I think transgender and intersex are two different issues and the genderists, as per the uze, latch onto intersex as a way to stealth themselves into legitimate discourse, much the same as they did with LGB. It’s literally part of their playbook. Transgender is based on Gender Identity, which is an idiosyncratic, subjective belief system, unhinged from material reality. Intersex/DSD is a biologically based condition and has nothing to do with gendered souls or lady brains or myfeelz. The intersection between these two issues is competitive sports, where there can be male body advantages that accrue to CAIS people which have to be addressed in order to ensure fair play.

It’s really important when talking about transgender people to keep intersex as a separate topic. The recent debate with Colin Wright was frustrating in that he let very narrow examples relating to DSD be used as a proxy for TIMs. Since 99.98% of the world is not intersex of the type which gives rise to ambiguous genitalia and phenotype presentation, it is not useful to lump gender identity trans with DSD and say that they need to be addressed and accommodated similarly.

( FlorenceBlue )
IMO, still male. What we choose socially to do with that info is up for debate.

( viscerally )
Male, yes. But a woman still. In this extremely rare case, that in no way is similar to the case of trans women, I can confidently say that a male person can also be a woman - if she has the outer body of one and was brought up as one and would have always been believed to have been one of it weren’t for genetical testing.

( FlorenceBlue )
No such thing as male women.

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Have I already lost her? Is it already too late?

( GA626 )
As a mother myself with a 5 month old, I very much dread her future and the thought of this happening.

You cannot restrict her access to the internet, but what I would do in this situation is explain to her the dangers of strangers on the internet, explain what the term 'grooming' means, and also explain to her what puberty blockers are used for and the permanent damages they cause to the body.

Show her pictures of TIF's, after 'gender affirming surgery', even if you consider them extremely graphic. Show her the damage this ideology causes. People like Chloe Cole and other detransitioners are people she should look up and read about. Libsoftiktok, Kellie Jay Keen etc.

I don't know how old she is, but children are immature and won't hit full maturity until 25. She cannot possibly know anything about her future, other than the ideas put into her head now by the trans cult and she needs to be protected from those ideas. She needs to understand exactly what happens when you are sterile.

If you want to find your daughter again, this is what needs to be done in order to make her understand the reality behind the ideology. It's designed to tear children away from parents and destroy relationships. You could also explain to her what a cult is.

I'm sorry you're dealing with this. It sounds like a nightmare.

( LunarMoose )
Home school her (can you?) Turn OFF the internet. I would absolutely do this (I did turn off the internet for my home at one point, not because of trans issues - daughter's behavior was really tough for a few months. This sucked for me, too (I like the internet) and daughter said I'd never survive. I sure did! And those issues disappeared :) Move. Do you have relatives you can stay with (in a conservative part of the country?) Then send her to a private school. Or home school.

If this were my daughter, I'd make every drastic step I could to interrupt this. As others have asked - how old is she?

( FlorenceBlue )
Take away any device she has that connects to the internet.

( WatcherattheGates )
I don't know how old she is, but if she is younger than 17, take a hammer and smash her phone and computer. I mean it. That is the only way. If you can, also take her on a gap year to Europe or somewhere else, immediately. I promise you that if you sever it all, you will see her come back, bit by bit.

SulphuricMirror #homophobia #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: "There's more cock in r/actuallesbians than here" says redditor in r/askgaybros

I literally don't consider gay men allies anymore. there are so few standing up to this cult that they've gone full traitor mode on lesbians. Lesbians, who fucking cared for them when they were dropping like flies of "gay plague".

And this is the pay back we get.

I really think that as we re-group as lesbians, we need to make one thing clear: we may have something in common with gay men, but they are not our allies. They are men. They are misogynist scum and they are traitors. Only a very few of them seem to care about us.

Just like only a very few straight men care about what happens to women.

So there you go, they're just men. And we need to keep that in mind going forward and never waste energy helping them again.

We should also distance ourselves from them politically and socially, if at all possible. Again, because they are males and the sexuality can poison everything and be quite perverted. Remember it was gay men who wanted to let pedophiles in the movement in the 70s, and it was lesbians who held the line and said, "uh, no, child raping is not a legit sexuality". If we weren't there, what would become of their civil rights movement?

I say we leave them to cope for themselves and if they eat themselves over gender cult or pedo bullshit, then it's their own fault. We need to stop wasting time and energy babysitting and advocating for men, because what happens is they reap all the rewards and we lose everything.

Everything. We literally don't have a community anymore. Where were gay men when that was happening? They can piss off as far as I'm concerned. We need to really take the Get The L Out movement seriously. Maybe some people will think that's too extreme or we need gay men or something, but I don't think so. Need them for what? They're men, most of them are worthless when it comes to creating anything positive for women.

SakuraBlossoms #transphobia ovarit.com

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Fixed it!

❌ He is a transgender
❌ He is transgendered

✔️ She identifies as transgender

❌ He transgendered last year

✔️ She started pretending she was a man last year

❌ He changed gender

✔️ She started making people call her a man

❌ He was born a girl

✔️ She is a girl

❌ When he was a girl

✔️ When she didn't deny her sex

❌ Before he became a boy

✔️ Before she became deluded

❌ Being trans means you're gay

✔️ Identifying as trans usually means you're a straight homophobe

❌ Did you get the surgery?

✔️ Did you become a victim of medical malpractice?

Slippery Slope Award

also: Doomsday Fiction Award

SecondSkin #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: The End Game
(submitters note: question posed "What do you think the end game is with trans ideology?")

It’s to teach us a lesson for those damned suffragettes. And time loop us back before their time. And keep us there permanently.

Women have the vote right? Wrong. Once anyone who feels like a woman is one we no longer can assess how women as a group vote. We can’t use the data to figure out what the female electorate wants prioritised, or which parties represent woman’s issues or for political parties to canvas female voter needs and appeal to us. The group women will forever exclude some actual women and include men. And there will be no way to ever address this, we will be worse off that the suffragettes were, because at least they could hold meetings for women to change things. We won’t ever have that opportunity if self id comes in because any women’s group will have to be open to men also. And they’ll talk over us. And tell us that female health needs or employment needs or childcare and so on are not women’s issues because they don’t effect them, but that prostrate cancer and free boob jobs on the nhs need centred as the women’s issue funding needs directed too. And that they feel the rape survivor groups the government funds should now focus on sex work as a way of empowering survivors to find sex positivity and that playboy party Friday is the new weekly world book day in schools. And what the fuck can us actual women do about it? Nothing, not once self id is legal. Even way way way back when we were owned by our husbands and not allowed Education we had greater chance at improving women’s rights than we will if self id comes in- because at least then we could say what a woman was, we could create underground groups to tackle women’s needs and rights. And obviously it worked over time. But self id comes in and that won’t even be an option, because so many women are pro twaw line. So they’d infiltrate any attempt we made to expose us and have us punished. All while our children are in schools being brainwashed into believing twaw from birth, by drag queen teachers. So the truth would die with us. Except somewhere deep down our girls would know, they just would never have the language for it, having had their tongues tied by mantra and the history books trans-washed.

This is the end result. The ultimate silencing. With no way of the truth reasserting itself ever.

MiMi2013 , pennygadget & Kriegerin #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Kentucky senator's TIF daughter, 24, committed suicide. Blames it on laws protecting women's safe spaces and sex-based rights

( MiMi2013 )
I don't care.

This woman's suicide is being used as propaganda for full infiltration of trans people into places segregated by sex ; however irritating it is for men to have trans "men" foisted on them , they're in no danger from these females.

Trans woMEN, OTOH, are a danger to women : How many more incarcerated women have to be assaulted by criminals willing to self ID into their spaces-? How many more school children have to make themselves sick because they're unwilling to use unisex toilets-?How many more college students have fully intact trans "girls" invading their showers and locker rooms -? How many more allegedly 'public' places (including hospitals, gyms, store changing rooms or restrooms) have to be made de facto off limits to women, because of trans invasions-?

I care about the female victims of these policies, and I do not think this girl's suicide is such a big loss to the world as to make it the justification for a ceasing of the long overdue pushback on trans woMEN invasions. And I make no apologies for this stance.

( pennygadget )
[...]

It was an argument she also address to the senate in February - when she warned 'the world is coming after them,' referring to trans people like her son.

This melodramatic language helps no one. "The world is coming after them"? I hate to play Oppression Olympics, but if that was all it took to trigger suicide, 99% of the Jewish population would be dead via suicide. American slaves, Jews in Nazi Germany, and women in Afghanistan didn't have the suicide rate that trans people supposedly have. So framing a trans person's suicide as the result of oppression is both incorrect and a slap in the face to people who are actually marginalized

( Kriegerin )
Right? Women, Jewish people, black people, disabled people all suffer from actual oppression, yet their number one solution isn't killing themselves.

These are severely mentally ill people and instead of therapy we give them snake oil and mutilation, duh they're gonna kill themselves...

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( EvilTerfyTerf )
So how's everybody feeling about Greta Thunberg coming out as a TRA handmaiden
She didn't even tweet out a generic 'I love trans rights' slathered over the ugly flag. She retweeted that one transactivist bragging about shutting down the adult human female screening at Edinburgh university with a bunch of heart emojis.

Apparently it's 'believe the science' until men start claiming speshul women feelingz.

Suddenly I feel a lot less guilty about my carbon footprint and I feel a lot worse about criticizing my beloved Taylor Swift for her private jet trips this August. Burn the planet to the ground, my darling. At least once we're all dead, no woman will ever be subjugated under male supremacy again.

( klytaimestra )
[...]

Men can't be women – also a fact, but one Greta doesn't know and / or understand.

[...]

I am zero surprised about her stance on TRAs, and was pretty much waiting for this. It was obvious that she was going to struggle with womanhood. She had a fairly childish presentation of herself for a long time and taking that leap into becoming a woman and understanding what that entails was never going to be easy for her. Like for many young women, gender ideology offers a false hope that you can escape the abuses from patriarchy by choosing to believe in something else. If only it were that simple.

( Riothamus )
Is anyone surprised? Billionaires crafted this ideology to torpedo the Trust the Science(TM) parties all over the Western World.

You can't honestly expect people to believe you on scientific matters when you pretend to not know the difference between men and women.

( actualdyke )
let's be real, she always has been and always will be a shill for the corporate western media propaganda machine. we all know she simply regurgitates whatever party line she's spoonfed. this is completely unsurprising to me, the only surprising thing is that this is seemingly the first time she's bent over backwards for the TWAW cult.

also, sorry not sorry if this makes me a bad person, but this definitely makes me question the validity and legitimacy of her past activism. if you believe that men can be women and vice versa, how scientifically sound are your thoughts on climate change, actually?

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

TIM is offended that mothers don’t want him around their little girls in the public restroom
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( legopants )
She's teaching her kids to be safe around men, not to fear women. She's doing everything right. die mad about it

( Sailor_Paradise )
There are videos of men jacking off in public bathrooms on porn sites and installing hidden cams as well.. So the fact they're saying there's no reason to fear a man in female's restroom with their child really shows how dumb they are. Fuck this guy. There's a reason why you see mother's bring their sons into the bathroom with even if they're 8+ because of the fear the moment they're alone they can get instantly raped or hurt by a strange man. If you're really afraid of transphobia don't use the bathroom or go to the gender neutral one. The op clearly doesn't pass as a woman at all not even a masculine one.

( redacted )
men in the bathroom is not a grey area, its a violation of boundaries.

i hope his mum was just trying to prevent him going off at her and doesn't sincerely believe that, but she should be telling her adult son to respect female only spaces.

( RusticTroglodyte )
She's probably scared of him. I would consider myself a complete fucking failure as a parent if my son grew up to be an autogynephile. His mom is either deluded or just drinks herself to sleep every night wondering where she went wrong

( Apricot_Ibex )
“Women who look like you” aka MEN have sexually assaulted children countless times in restrooms, you freak.

Cope and seethe that mothers are teaching their children to avoid/be cautious around strange MEN who are creepy, entitled, and aggressive enough to barge into a space where they don’t even belong.

( suupersami )
They always seethe the hardest when they're denied access to vulnerable populations, especially children. You don't see TIFs focused on getting unconstrained access to children.

( shewolfoffrance )
It says a lot about this movement that they demand concessions not from the relatively powerful, but the relatively weak.

( realityismykink )
also they're pedophiles

GraceHoward1729 & Champagne_Lasagne #transphobia ovarit.com

( GraceHoward1729 )
Misogynists are not welcome here.

💜🤍💚 Here are a couple of facts, as a friendly reminder:

Men who pretend to be women are men.

Women are female; men are male.

Lesbians are female homosexuals and exclusively own all sapphic spaces.

Calling men who pretend to be women "women" makes you a misogynist.

Lesbians are female homosexuals. Lesbians are not male heterosexuals. And no matter how much whining they do, misogynists can't change that fact.

This all doesn't need to be said, because reality exists independent of people's words. Reality doesn't require mass campaigns of psychological control with official contradictory slogans to be repeated ad nauseam; reality doesn't rely upon doublethink or propaganda-induced fear for compliance. I am not forgetting any facts, because reality is impossible to forget, not sorry.

( Champagne_Lasagne )
MEN are not welcome here.

💜 Here's a couple of facts, as a friendly reminder:

Transwomen are men.

All women have vaginas, all men have penises.

Enby lesbians are misogynist "not like other girls" women and are not welcome here and in all sapphic spaces.

Calling women "females" is degrading yet necessary, because some fuckwits refuse to acknowledge the meaning of "woman".

Lesbians are women who love women. Lesbians are only Cis women who love Cis women. And no matter how much whining they do, men and homophobes can't change that fact.

Evidently this all needs to be said all the time. Moids and handmaidens are always ignoring these types of facts however, fuck them.

Sprig_of_mint , shewolfoffrance & Bolero #transphobia ovarit.com

(Sprig_of_mint)
Genderwoo = the Satanic Panic?

One of my deepest areas of fascination is the 1980s Satanic Panic, which began by parents becoming convinced that their children's daycare was being secretly run by a cabal of Satanic pedophiles. This belief catapulted itself into mainstream American thought. Doctors, law enforcement, social workers, psychologists, and other authorities believed the lies that America was full of Satanic ritual abuse underground societies. They used slogans like "Believe the children" and "children don't lie" while using junk science and manipulative interviewing techniques to convince children and parents of Satanic abuse that literally never happened. There's a lot more to it, and I recommend those unfamiliar take a look. The general attitude from those my age who were only young children when this was going on is "what was everyone thinking? How could they have been so deluded?" Do you all think in a few decades everyone will the same way about transing kids? Here's what really gets me--for different reasons, but both the Satanic-panic-influenced Bible belters of my childhood and TRAs of today hate JK Rowling!

( shewolfoffrance )
One contrast I find interesting is that right now, it's the people who are raising the alarm about abuse who are accused of stoking a moral panic. I'm fairly sure that within 10-15 years massive lawsuits, journalistic exposés, and personal memoirs about detransition will force the issue into the sunlight.

And while the accusations of Satanic ritual abuse in the 80s were never substantiated, and never even plausible in the first place; the evidence of medical, sexual, and emotional abuse in gender activism is all right there. Many TRAs will even brag about it publicly. Off the top of my head I can think of Dr. Yeet the Teats, rapist Eli Erlick, and the promotion of suicide-baiting as a tactic to force family members to support transition.

( Bolero )
My favorite thing about the current era is that Michael "Jesse Singal is literally murdering trans people" Hobbes did a whole thing about Satanic Panic on his You're Wrong About podcast. I think it's actually where I first learned about Satanic Panic (before I listened to a couple of episodes where I'd had prior knowledge about the subject, and started mistrusting his reporting).

[...]

femlez34 & Califasauros #transphobia #enbyphobia ovarit.com

RE: What is the response people are looking for when they say they are “non binary”?

( femlez34 )
I think women say it thinking it's a magical spell to prevent people from treating them like women, aka sexually harassing them, talking over them in the work place, etc. It doesn't work though, everyone can see that they're female. Even within the trans community there is so much sexism directed at non-binary women and TIFs from TIMs, who have the gall to suggest these women have "male privilege".

To me as a lesbian, it's a signal that I don't want to date or befriend this woman because I can't stand all the drama that comes with it. Half of them want to be called lesbians while the other half are outraged if you call them one, and they refuse to give you any clues on this stuff, you're expected to be psychic. Many of them now aren't even androgynous or gender non-conforming. They're women who are all dolled up with tons of makeup and high heels, acting outraged that anyone calls them "she" or "ma'am". Then you have TIMs on the other side throwing a public fit if someone doesn't see their wonky eyeliner and assume that they want to be called "she" (see gamestop trans). Which is it?!?

As for your last question, no it has nothing to do with being "bi". "Bi" is an abbreviation for "bisexual". Anyone can be a bisexual, and many non-binary people are not bisexual, a lot of them are straight or gay. Sometimes the straight or bi ones call themselves "queer" instead, because you have to admit to having a gender yourself to use straight or gay.


( Califasauros )
This makes a lot of sense. For girls and women trying to escape societal expectations of what it means to be a woman (including, and perhaps, most importantly, what it means to be a woman in extreme online porn made by men for men), taking on a non-binary identity is a step not quite as drastic as taking on the identity of a trans man. Of course, there are those enbies who are quite extreme...those who have smoothing surgeries to make genitalia less prominent, those who have surgeries to remove nipples as well as breasts, but I think their numbers are still very small.

various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Fridge horror: the consequences of rapists changing their legal sex on record

( SakuraBlossoms )
A rape kit would obviously show the victim was raped by a man. If the rape victim is able to provide a description of the rapist, they'll of course also mention that they were raped by a male, because they were. No one would think semen left behind at the crime scene came from a "female."

I would argue that forcing everyone to pretend that men are women is also an impediment to stopping rapists and other criminals. Imagine police asking a TRA if they saw any men leaving a crime scene at a certain time. Would they be so intent on pretending they didn't recognize the obvious male because he had a wig on that they wouldn't mention him, knowing that he could be a potential rape suspect?


( crodish )
Well of course no one would think the semen would come from a female. The problem comes when you have to go through the database and instead of narrowing it down to only males, you now need to search through "female" as well, because those males may or may not have already had their legal sex updated to read "female". It's just extra work and a waste of time for everyone involved.

I'm not super clear on which countries have completely allowed for this, or if it IS actually a thing atm, but imagine the scenario where a law says yep, don't bother keeping the change history on records, just update it to whatever and that's that.

( La_Terfa )
I hate TIMs even more than I hate moids.

Oh, yeah, they're moids.


( Nerdylesbian )
What's a moid?

(La_Terfa )
That's the correct, scientific term for "males".

spacykate #ableist #enbyphobia ovarit.com

San Francisco's Bay to Breakers, known for its zany inclusivity, refuses to give awards to nonbinary runners

This is entirely ridiculous, this is a bunch of nobodies pretending that they're the same as the men's and women's elite runner category. Its like giving the retarded kid a BS award so they can stand on the podium too.

Various Commenters #transphobia #sexist ovarit.com

RE: I'm sorry about their experience, but it's still male socialization through and through.

( La_Terfa )
LMAO!!

"*I demand someone else baby me and do everything for me, every detrans group is just for you women! Fuck you, men need support and love and obedience.*"

Well, guess what: no. Stop demanding that women do things for you while being openly lazy, moid. The reasons why women transition are completely different from why men transition, anyway. Women transition for reasons that warrant sympathy and support, such as trauma, sexual violence, etc. Males usually transition because of their disgusting fetishes about being a "big tiddy catgirl", which they acquire after viewing grotesque porn.

Sorry that you ruined your body and your life because of a masturbatory fantasy, Kevin, but I'm busy supporting women with genuine problems and hardships. Go cry in your moid cave. Now that you don't have a dick to distract you, maybe you can even do something productive.

( butchplease )
Oh. I just realised. He doesn't ACTUALLY want a male space, he wants to intrude into the female space.

He wants the female space to be centred around HIM.

He wants the female space to be dominated by HIS voice and the voices of other men.

He wants the female space to exist for HIS gratification.

He wants the female space to submit to him.

All men are the same. Fuck him big time.


( IrishTheFrenchie )
And chances are 100% he was EXACTLY like this when he was pretending to be a "woman"- entitled to women's spaces, time, effort, and emotional labor with ZERO effort on his part and ZERO care if he made women uncomfortable.

( hmimperialtortie )
Screw them. They got into this through their porn addictions and hatred of women. Go make your own groups, scrotes. Other blokes do it, they make their Men’s Shed groups for mutual support.


( La_Terfa )
Male "mutual support" is only skin deep though, since they aren't that capable of empathy.


( proudcatlady )
And it’s usually harmful. I genuinely don’t think men should meet up without female chaperones. Get a bunch of men together and something violent is going to happen eventually. These guys will just bond over their misogyny.

butchplease , homosuperior & Owlchaser #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Quotes from transwomen

(butchplease )
What upsets me the most is that I'll never be able to hate these lowlife perverts as much as they hate us.


( homosuperior )
Don’t worry babe I can hate them enough for the pair of us!


( butchplease )
Thank you darling


( Owlchaser )
I don't see them as fully 'human', in the sense that they act more like predatory animals obsessed with sex. I think you trade something essential to being human for that level of hatred.


( butchplease )
Oof. I'm inclined to agree.

Several Ovarit-members #kinkshaming #ableist ovarit.com

RE: Tavistock Gender Clinic Lead Psychologist Supports Ageplay, Furries

(littleowl12 )
What pisses me off is that there's a growing number of people that think furries are just neurodiverse. And most of it is wholesome! If you're creeped out you're a neurobigot!

No, sorry, there's just too much overlap between furries and all pedophilic fetishes. I have every reason to keep you away from my kids and away from me.


( Gould2022 )
I’m still 100 percent convinced most of this bullshit, is targeted around reducing or removing age of consent. Legalise pedophilia. God knows what happens after that legalised sexual slave contracts? My mind is not deranged enough to identify other crazy shit


( hmimperialtortie )
Yes. They want all barriers to raping whoever they target removed - women, children, or animals.


( Researcher1536 )
This is a pro-predator movement through and through, and "be kind" and "don't kink shame!" are opening the door for utter depravity and harm.


( Gould2022 )
Pro-predator movement great statement


( hmimperialtortie )
Completely. They don’t want rape to be even nominally a crime.

actualdyke , hmimperialtortie & nopenottoday #transphobia #pratt ovarit.com

(actualdyke)
"No cis man would ever transition for nefarious reasons!!"

I've heard this argument countless times and it always makes me want to tear my hair out. Firstly, they don't even have to transition anymore - self-ID makes it so that all they have to do is say they are a woman and they can get into any intimate female space they want. But even if that weren't the case - do you really believe that a man wouldnt undergo transition just to have access to vulnerable women? Men go through years of med school to become gynecologists/doctors and abuse women. Men go through the entire process of becoming teachers and professors to be in positions of power over women and girls. They become fucking PRIESTS just to abuse children for christ's sakes. If a man wants to abuse women and girls, there is pretty much no means he will not go to in order to justify that end, certainly not a couple E shots and a wig and name change.

TL;DR libfems need to stop being wilfully ignorant and pretending that there is ANYTHING that men would not do in order to pursue their nefarious motives.

(hmimperialtortie )
There are no not-nefarious reasons for men to “transition”. They may claim to be poor sad HSTS on occasion but the whole concept of a man being able to become a woman - or even worse, “was always a woman” - is nefarious.

(nopenottoday )
They all know this argument is just a deflection from the real concern and it's that there's no difference between a guy pretending to be a woman and... a guy pretending to be a woman. They are ALL pretending to be women to access women's spaces. Second most important point, none of this is our fucking problem and we don't have to sit around and suffer assaults and boundary violations while we figure out which ones are "true trans." They are ALL sexual predators because they are men trying to force themselves in women's spaces. That's the uncomfortable truth.

SulphuricMirror #sexist ovarit.com

Men should be segregated into special ares where they can't expose us and children to their disgusting behaviour. I don't see why normal people (women and children) should have to co-mingle with men who are potentially just masturbating any goddamn place. If they are gonna act like chimps, then maybe they belong in zoos or nature reserves. Just saying.

Galko #transphobia ovarit.com

Radical feminists are the new lesbians. Basically, men will always want what they can't have. Now they figured out a way to demand they be accepted into lesbian spaces, guitling libfems into sleeping with them, and calling themselves lesbian. So, lesbians conquered. Now where's the next group of women saying, "No," that would be Radfems. We're saying no very loudly, so it's fueling their fetishes to conquer us as well. So, they're trying this shit, because it's no different than porn with "lesbians" that welcome in the pizza delivery guy.

Various TERFs #transphobia #pratt ovarit.com

RE: How many autogynephiles are predatory, abusive, and/or dangerous?


All of them. 34 % (85 votes)
Most of them. 38 % (94 votes)
A small minority. 2 % (5 votes)
I don't know. 8 % (21 votes)
More research is needed to answer this question. 18 % (44 votes)

( actualdyke )
AGP in and of itself is predatory and certainly dangerous to women. how many AGPs are actually going to act upon that predatory mentality and harm women? i don't know (although it certainly seems like a lot). but how many AGPs are inherently predatory and dangerous to women? yeah, it's all of them. you literally cannot be an AGP if you don't fetishize, sexualize, obsess over, and deeply hate and disrespect women.

edit: and how could i forget to mention how it's basically impossible to have AGP without other paraphilias as well. from what i've seen of AGPs the most common ones are (auto)pedophilia and bestiality. so not only is AGP bad enough on its own, it almost always indicates even deeper and further levels of depravity and danger to others.

( GoodGoneGirl )
It depends on how you define “predatory”, “abusive” and “dangerous.” Is it predatory and/or abusive for an AGP (or any TIM) to force his way into women’s spaces? I’d argue that it is. Especially when those spaces are for women at their most vulnerable, such as the recent example of the TIM invading a female-only rape crisis group.

AGPs are doing this stuff to get off and they’re forcing women to go along with it. Rules are being bent and laws are being changed to accommodate them, so yes, I think every AGP who takes advantage of that is predatory and abusive.

As for being dangerous (will hurt, rape or kill) I think the number is going to be higher than for normal men. Maybe a bit higher, maybe a lot higher. That would be really hard to answer without more research.

[...]

( hmimperialtortie )
All of them. Even the so-called good ones who criticise those other AGPs. The concept is inherently abusive.

( momofreyrella )
All of them!

notyourfetish #pratt #transphobia ovarit.com

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Althought the majority of men are awesome with men

Spoken like someone who is not a woman and doesn't know wtf he's talking about. But he's male, so of course he knows more about women's experiences than we do. Of course he thinks it's, like, two men who are committing 99.9% of all violent crime. Because when people lock their doors at night, it's in fear of women.

Trans women are mentally female

No such thing, you sexist piece of shit.

They entered a woman's restroom desperately not wanting to be noticed

Another lie. They enter a woman's restroom and get off on how uncomfortable it makes us. Then they leer and stare at us, record us with shoe cameras, glare threateningly at us if we look remotely uncomfortable with a large, menacing male in our space, and oh yeah, beat the living shit out of us if we ask them to leave.

It has happened multiple times because it's the majority of "transwomen," not a mere few boogeymen. But again, you know more about our experiences than us. You're a superior man, after all.

Many attempt to leave this world because of the hate

Then get therapy. It is not the entire world's responsibility to coddle your fragile porn-warped brains. It is not women's responsibility. Women don't exist to be your mommy or your therapist, and especially not at our own expense.

I spent years trying to run from being trans

Which shows how mentally ill you are because there is no such thing as being trans. You were born male and you'll always be male. Mutliating yourself won't change that. You do not have a female brain, you have the typical sexist male socialization, though.

There is no such thing as a female brain. Being a woman is not wearing a dress and pigtails and watching My Little Pony. How the fuck is that not sexist?

[…]

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: It is all so STUPID

( BondiBlue )
SO. MUCH. THIS.
I’ve been feeling so blackpilled about it that I’ve come to the conclusion humanity is just too goddamned stupid to be salvaged, and we would be better off if Putin just outright slammed the button. The ultimate in “cancel culture” x 8 billion. 10,000 years of evolutionary fact just thrown in the garbage like Dylan’s gross tampons, because “muh uwu oppwesshun feelz.” Just get it over and done with, and with any luck some other species won’t make the same dumbass mistakes.

( Itzpapalotl )
I cannot believe humans could be stupid enough to collectively deny proven facts just to cater to feelings. It’s absurd.

( Dee )
I lie awake about this far more often than I'd like. I am glad I've managed to protect my daughter enough that she never experienced sexual assault and figured out how dangerous men can be. When she soaks up internet-inspired ideas that women like JK Rowling who advocate for female-only spaces can only possibly be motivated by a hate for trans people, I guess I should be glad that she's so naive that she doesn't understand why those spaces are so needed. But there are times when I am haunted by the thought that I have somehow raised a misogynistic daughter. The thought that some of my children would grow up to be misogynists occurred to me when they were little, but I never thought it would be my daughter.

( Kriegerin )
Okay, does anybody else sometimes wake up from a weird and ominous dream and for a few split seconds think that the whole trans thing was part of this lucid fever dream? And then it dawns on you that it's real. Idk... It's just unreal how stupid it is. Fucking unreal.

( Itzpapalotl )
It is utterly dystopian.

Progress is not a consistently forward march. We fall into the trap of thinking we are constantly advancing.
[...]

If you’d have told people in the 50’s or 60’s that 50 or 60 years later people would be pretending men and women are identical, that acknowledging biology would have you ostracised and slandered...people would’ve laughed and said “don’t be so silly”

The tide will turn. This bizarro time frame won’t last much longer because it’s incompatible with reality. I hope in 10 years people look back and say “what the fuck were people smoking!?”

various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Prenatal yoga class I was looking into uses the term “carrying persons”

( Feministunderyrbed )
I used to feel sorry for TIFs, they’re not a threat to me, victims of misogyny too, and all that. But when I think of the kind of pressure it has taken to impose these farcical speech codes on every business, government and institution serving women, I don’t feel like being in a room with TIFs any more than with TIMs. The delusions and aggression are almost equally creepy.

( femlez34 )
Honestly I think it's TIMs pushing for this as much if not more than TIFs. They know they can never be women because they can't get pregnant. They're desperate to divorce womanhood from female biology and turn it into an outfit, that's the only way they can participate.

( NoDayForADo )
More and more I find them practicing the worst kinds of misogyny. Skyler Bailer - HUGE supporter of Lia Thomas - given the voice of credibility because "he's a trans man athlete!" Think about it a little deeper and you'll see someone who hated being a woman so much she lopped her own tits off, who is now pushing for rules to hurt and humiliate other women.

( fiordisappho )
Same, plus I find their obsession with opting out of womanhood to “become men” particularly pathetic and enraging.

( Gladys_Kravitz )
What's frustrating is 90% of them don't actually want to become men. They're literally scared of men (like more so than the average woman IME) and refuse to use men's spaces because they don't like the misogyny, bro talk, male mannerisms, etc. They basically don't like anything about men, they just REALLY hate being treated like a woman.

They obsess over male characters written by women, male representations that don't actually exist. That's what they want to be.

( pennygadget )

They obsess over male characters written by women, male representations that don't actually exist. That's what they want to be.

They want to be like the yaoi boys in their Manga. Just like how the TIMs want to be giggling hentai sluts

( Feministunderyrbed )
Equal parts pitiable and infuriating, yeah.

( hmimperialtortie )
Same. My pity has largely been replaced by contempt.

cranberrysalad and EternaEspiral #sexist #senpai_noticed_us ovarit.com

Submitter’s note: this is yet another quote from the Ovarit is often featured on FSTDT! thread: https://fstdt.com/SW2.6WS2JB7MH
Apparently they don’t understand we call them fundie because of their rhetoric and who they associate with, i.e. Matt Walsh

(cranberrysalad)
Amen (irony intended, lurkers). Super liberal atheist here, much further left than my TWAM friends. They’re busy sobbing and wailing about men’s rights activism from some extremely wealthy zip codes while I’m over here like don’t let your identity politics make you forget that we’re all workers, comrade.

(EternaEspiral)
Yup, young, lesbian, atheist and anarchist leaning here. We're difinitely not what they imagine. Bet they won't screenshot and comment on this lol

[Deleted] #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Some real world LGB issues that major organizations are neglecting in favor of Trans Woo

I just don't get it. There was so MUCH to be done after gay marriage was won in some Western nations. Literally anything would have been a good target, hell, lesbians are women and women's rights are still barely a thing. 2% of rapes ever get investigated. All this money could have done soooooooo much good in the world.

And they decided they'd use this money to destroy women's rights, women's safety, women's dignity, child rape safeguarding. They used the money to destroy hundred thousands, maybe millions, of healthy bodies forever. Traumatize millions forever.

I really hope they will pay for this, but history tells me they won't. Not the surgeons and the stonewall people anyway. Now the TIMs with their mutilated body and their forever single life because no woman wants to go near that, they will suffer. So will the women with chronic pain, early onset dementia. But i fear the ones most responsible will walk, and will have made a lot of money, to add insult to injury.

BondiBlue , OneOddBird & OneStarWolf #transphobia #moonbat ovarit.com

( BondiBlue )
Blue states becoming "sanctuaries" for genderwoo.

Connecticut has just announced it will be the first state to ignore court orders from red states prohibiting trans nonsense. Washington D.C. is reportedly soon to follow.

https://www.cga.ct.gov/asp/cgabillstatus/cgabillstatus.asp?selBillType=Bill&which_year=2022&bill_num=5506

The upside is that they're also intending to be sanctuaries for abortion. But the downside is that they're lumping the two together as a broader "civil rights" battle. Even though the genderwoo cult are the ones erasing women's civil rights, and leaving us with no sanctuaries away from them.

This makes me angry, because the genderwoo cult now has a narrative framing of being on the Union side against slavery. It's just more forced teaming, now with trans bullsh!t effectively positioned as a "race." Just because I don't want anything to do with these militant colonizers doesn't make me a daughter of the Confederacy, FFS.

( OneOddBird )
A lot of this blue state trans thing refuge thing raises a lot of questions. Whenever a bill like the Texas one is passed, you see hordes of trans kids or their parents saying they are going to move out to a blue state. The thing is, blue states usually have higher costs of living. What person can actually afford to uproot their entire life, buy a home in a new place, pay for all the travel and expenses etc. it really shows that trans kids and trans healthcare in general is a problem of the bourgeoisie. What’s going to happen to that “trans kid” in Texas whose parents work as grocery store clerks? They can’t just uproot their lives and move. But oddly enough all the focus and sympathy is leveled at these upper class trans kids and their families who can afford to basically upgrade their quality of life

( OneStarWolf )
Lovely.

So Connecticut is also all about forcing women into prisons with men to inevitably be raped and become pregnant against their will. But at least they’ll allow the women abortions, eh! The idiots.

Gender ideology is a scourge on women and children, and it’s despicable how they now try to force ally it with abortion.

Women don’t want or need your gender cult bullshit as a condition for having autonomy over our bodies. Fuck off, Connecticut and all other TRAs and blue states trying this sleight of hand with our rights. We see you.

ProxyMusic #interphobia ovarit.com

RE: CAIS women

I have no problem considering persons with CAIS as though they were girls and women socially. Biologically, however, they are XY, SRY gene positive males with a DSD that occurs only in males. The sex development and health of females who have the same exact genetic mutations that cause CAIS in males are completely unaffected by those genetic anomalies. Because only male sex development is driven by and dependent on testosterone produced by the testes, and only males can have faulty male androgen receptors.

Also, socially doesn't mean medically. For the sake of people with CAIS's own health and wellbeing, it's crucial that their male sex, genetics and male-only DSD be acknowledged and kept front and center when it comes to matters like medical care, assessing their risks for developing certain diseases, anticipating how diseases will affect them, and treating the diseases and health conditions they develop. Their sex also needs to be taken into account when estimating their life spans for purposes of planning and budgeting for their old age and purchasing longterm care insurance.

their bodies are fully incapable of using testosterone from basically birth, meaning they have no functional male anatomy for basically their whole lives.

But persons with CAIS all develop and are born with testes that produce massive amounts of testosterone, usually in the high end of the normal male range, or exceeding the top end of the normal male range. At birth, CAIS testes also contain the gamete germ cells that in other males will later on develop into sperm. Some researchers today are predicting that with advances in assisted reproductive technologies, the time will come when persons with CAIS will be able to become biological parents.

How exactly do you figure that testes that pump out massive amounts of T and contain male gamete germ cells don't count as "functional male anatomy"?

[...]

Various commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Our Sisters in Afghanistan

( AngelFoodCake )
If trans issues aren't just a first world problem, where are all the Afghan TIMs demanding that these rules must apply to them as well so that they can feel valid?

( Committing_Tervery )
Along a similar but different note, I never see TIMs complaining that seeing Muslim women oppressed gives them “dysphoria,” either. Weird how they want to experience abortions, stillbirths, and other solely female experiences, but never wearing a burka and needing to have a man escort them out in public.

( comradeconradical )
Sadly I have seen more than a few TIMs fetishize the idea of being forced to wear a hijab and forced to be a houseslave...

It can be part of their feminization/sissification/misogyny/humiliation kink, with the added bonus of racism.

Just when you think they couldn't possibly be more depraved, they go there.

( Committing_Tervery )
I’ve definitely seen a few fetishize it, but none of them say that seeing women in burkas etc gives them “dysphoria,” ya know?

Indeed racist/culturally insensitive.

I cannot get the burning image of one TIM out of my head who was wearing a full body covering (but not a face covering). He had the most ridiculous fake boobs (probably stuffed a pillow under there, that’s what it looked like).

Gah, I hate these creeps!!!

( radicalacceptance )
So confusing how this is happening when no one can define a woman? Has anyone tried just explaining to the Taliban that biological sex is actually a spectrum?????

( chocolatefondant21 )
Can Afghan women identify as men and be exempt from all these rules? Why not??

( IronicWolf )
Weird how unsophisticated people like the Taliban know who a woman is without either chromosome testing or genital inspection while PhDs in Queer Theory and ironic glasses struggle with the concept of sexual dimorphism in humans. Even cats, dogs, birds etc know how to recognise the male and female of their species but very educated middle class progressives can’t.

I await TW desperate to travel to Kabul to get the validation of being flogged for not wearing a burka while ‘being women’. They could organise ‘high adrenaline gender euphoria holiday packages’.

littleowl12 & mrsmeyers #transphobia ovarit.com

( littleowl12 )
Girls are the bread and butter of gender clinics

I know gender clinics started their predatory crap with boys. But let's face it, there was never going to be that much growth, even with Jeanette Jennings parading poor Jazz around. Most parents would never allow their sons' genitals to be lopped off. Even for super dysfunctional homophobic families, it was just unthinkable. Even most adult TIMs don't bother with neo-vagina nonsense.

But look how much more "open-minded" parents are about mutilating their daughters' bodies. Early hysterectomies, breast amputation. Parents are so much more accommodating that now gender clinics focus on girls as their main prey. If a boy shows up, fine, but it's definitely about girls, now.

Does anyone have stats on the demand for neo-vaginas vs. phallo/metoidioplasty? I know the latter has far fewer surgeons and is much more expensive. But I'd love to know what percentage of TIFs at least attempt to get some sort of genital surgery.

It's just heart breaking how reckless parents are with their girls as opposed to their boys.

( mrsmeyers )
Making women and girls hate themselves is very economically viable. They are disposable, especially if they aren't "pretty."

OwnLyingEyes & KissMyOvaries #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: How calling a vagina a front hole DOES affect me

( OwnLyingEyes )
It's harmful to all women because it's taking away clear words that are necessary for understanding how our bodies function and replacing them with newspeak words that were created for the sole purpose of allowing some delusional women to sink deeper into those delusions. And FFS, doctor's visits take time out of my day and I pay a premium for accessing a small amount of their time; can we please not waste it playing inconsistent pronoun-and-gibberish games (especially when said delusional women you're sacrificing and expecting me to sacrifice so much to appease aren't even in the room)?

And it costs confidence in them as professionals, people I'm supposed to trust with my health, with my life, who can't or won't even speak clearly about what's happening to me because they're too afraid of offending insane people by acknowledging reality.

( KissMyOvaries )
This is why I don’t give a flying fck if TIFs end up with long term body damage. If you’re so stupid as to believe that you can become a man, then maybe you deserve what comes to you. Almost immediately after peaking I could see just how much damage TIFs do to other women. I’m not going to waste any energy on caring about them, because they ACTIVELY try to destroy other women.

I do want to say that I have ZERO problems with detrans women who have also dropped their narcissistic bullshit. There are a few prominent detrans women who are still all stuck up on themselves and no, I don’t support them as I don’t support narcissistic people.

GraceHoward1729 #transphobia ovarit.com

What does it mean to be ‘treated as' a woman?

[...]

Men: oh btw for some of us it's not enough to jack off to your pain, we actually want to be treated like you!! like women just like you hahah! and we'll pretend to be you, and you have to pretend too!! haha oh even though we have male bodies so we're not actually oppressed lol we just want to be treated less than and we want to perform 'femininity' like you're forced to and we want to be treated like the subordinate sex class and thus redefine you in law and society as actually being the subordinate 'gender' created by patriarchy! we have pink gender souls and so do you haha and female brains lol we'll call the porn 'sissification' and our existences 'feminisation'.

yeah yeah we know cross-dressing is the most common paraphilia of convicted sex offenders but shhhh shhhh let us in the spaces you fought hard for girlies we'll wear your oppression like a costume and get breast implants and jack off to you being degraded lol it's ‘gender affirming’ it’s our right!!! this is the men's sexual rights movem- oop i mean "trans rights movement" hahahah oh btw call us women, because we are women, 'women' is just a male fetish now. lol all that shit how we treat you cos you have a female body, all that shit you’ve been fighting against for centuries, we want that enshrined in law that you have to be treated that way, we’ll erase centuries of feminism just because we sickos want that misogynistic treatment lol. ha and if you object you’re ‘transmisogynists’. oh btw there's no such thing as female. so we’ll erase you too. and btw what kind of hormones does your ‘female’ body naturally produce? we're going to start injecting that. fuck yeah. omg is that 'milk' coming out of my moobs? let me force-feed this disgusting synthetic shit to a child. im a mother! but there’s no such thing as mother. ha this isn’t child abuse!! oh women btw while we redefine you in law and society to mean that you are how misogynists treat you, you’re going to have to call us ‘she’ and shut the fuck up about it. lol

2nd wave feminists: NO-

men: fuck you stfu cissexist transphobic terf swerf disgusting transmisogynist cissies stop oppressing me I will rape you with my girldick

2nd wave feminists:

2nd wave feminists: general public, are you hearing this? hello?!

[...]

actualdyke , BlankandPitiless & hmimperialtortie #kinkshaming ovarit.com

I do NOT consent to be a part of your kink
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( actualdyke )
the REAL tea is they actually don't give a shit about consent, they just make a big song and dance of it so that they can't be held accountable for their actions. like 'yeah actually it's totally fine that i gagged bound & beat my girlfriend, bc we have a safe word and she didn't use it so obviously she consented :)'. another thing: the entire purpose of the safe word is so that they can ignore 'no', 'stop', 'enough', 'get off me' etc and feign ignorance, bc they know that in moments of fear and panic it'll be almost impossible to remember the extremely specific safeword. "oh but you didn't say 'pasta napolitain with extra olives' so🤷‍♂️"

( BlankandPitiless )
I was in San Francisco once during some sort of massive kink street parade (Folsom Street Parade). Fetish gear, furries and penises galore. I hoped an asteroid would hit. I had no idea this was going on so completely against my will I had to be subjected to dozens of penises. At the time it just seemed so ridiculous that we were supposed to celebrate men acting out their sexual fetishes in public. I think this was the first time I started to think that conservatives weren't so wrong about liberals. Like this wasn't progressive, it's a symptom of moral decay and it's a slippery slope.

( hmimperialtortie )
I saw this sort of shit too, at the Melbourne Pride March over twenty years ago.

Tortoisemouse #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Gender Descriptors Are Super Offensive as It Turns Out | by Rachel Bridgers | Apr, 2022 | An Injustice!

So much wrong with this article I don't even know where to start.

People who voted that "cis" was offensive "are the same people who called leftist “snowflakes that get offended by everything”".

I was one of those people voting on Twitter and I am a leftist.

This article assumes TWAW. If you start from the premise that this is true, then all sorts of conclusions flow logically from this starting point. But the author fails to comprehend that many of the people objecting to "cis" do so precisely because TW are not W (and TM are not M).

Of course if I assert "chairs are tables" then I can make all kinds of logical arguments based on that premise, and reach all kinds of conclusions, and many of them would be absurd.

And this BORING BORING fucking argument: "When I say I’m a white woman, are people offended by me saying I’m white? I’m simply stating a fact. No one attributes that to being a “subset” of my gender. It’s simply a ridiculous argument."

Yeah because white women are still women you idiot. TiMs are not women. That's the whole point.

This style of reasoning/arguing drives me insane because they are completely missing the point. The whole point is how you define woman. If you redefine it to include men then that's the ridiculous argument. But they sail past this bit, assuming TWAW is a "fact" (like the fact of a white woman being a woman) without acknowledging that disputing this fact is precisely what is at issue here.

There's no capacity or willingness to examine the statement TWAW. Instead a load of twaddle based on the premise that it's true. Fine to believe TWAW but be prepared to argue why you think this.

ARRRGHH SO STOOOOPIIIDDDDD.

(edited for own stupidity)

Various Commenters #transphobia #sexist ovarit.com

(SycamoreLee)
Don’t give young TIMs a pass
I know it’s easy to be sympathetic towards dysphoric young TIMs but they can be just as creepy (if not even more so) than the older ones. The newest generations of TIMs have been raised on hardcore fetish porn and even more strictly enforced gender roles. They are even more openly depraved than the previous generations of TIMs and are unafraid of showing it. Just look at Twitter! Don’t give them a pass. Chase them out of female spaces!

( youwholou )
YES. Same for TIFs. I made the mistake of thinking they were harmless and I ended up getting sexually harassed by them. Their mindset is so toxic and fueled by misogyny and porn. Don't let these people into your lives and spaces if you can help it.

( jeannedeaux )
The testosterone overdose cannot possibly be helping. I've read that TIF violent-crime rates increase to nearly match those of men after they go on T.

( XxWomanxX )
As a gen z currently surrounded by these TIMs I approve of this message . They are into some of the most disgusting fetishes 🤢 Seriously don’t let their youth fool you they will eventually turn into the classic creepy middle aged AGP as they age. The only difference is that now they have been given the confidence to act out their fetishes in the open and then being praised for being their authentic self

( itsnotaboutewe )
These teen boys who come out as trans seem to change from being young men who were brought up to be respectful towards their elders and polite to women and girls, and turn into disgusting and hateful misogynists who take enjoyment from tormenting and threatening women. I wonder what their mothers think of their new and horrifying personalities? Is this stuff lurking under the polite facade of every male?

Various Commenters #transphobia #enbyphobia #conspiracy #crackpot #sexist ovarit.com

RE: What do they get out of transing kids?

(mathlover )
Transing kids provides propaganda so they can claim that being "trans" is natural and normal because, after all, kids obviously know from very young ages that they are the opposite sex. It's total nonsense, of course, and it destroys bodies and minds. But the TCult doesn't care; the kids are just collateral damage.

Transing kids also deflects public focus away from the fact that the vast majority of "trans" are autogynephilic heterosexual men trying to force everyone else, especially women, to help them live their fantasy which gets them off sexually.

( notyourfetish )
Big pharma gets money.

Trans Pedos get adult children who can legally consent to thier depravity.

Evil narc parents get woke points, praise, and attention.


( LilianH )
And for a lot of parents they get a straight kid instead of a gay kid. Homophobia does appear to play a part in many parent's decision to trans their children.

(SecondSkin )
Trans peadophiles get adults with children’s bodies and minds in many cases. Non binary is perfect for this. Take hormones to block puberty but not cross sex ones, child brain in a child body still when old enough to consent to sex.

And if children can consent to gender affirmative care, then they can consent to sex- will be the next argument.

(TheLastUBender )
This is a sinister thought, but for adult TiMs especially - or adult AGPs - this is an alternate past fantasy. If I had transitioned in childhood, if I had skipped male puberty, I would now be a more desirable young woman. They're living vicariously through the likes of Jazz Jennings. They really want this alternate past dream to be attainable. They lose interest when the evidence that you don't just grow up into an idealized version of the other sex becomes too obvious to ignore.

( starstuff )
It is probably not possible for us to really understand. The male brain is dysfunctional; a waste byproduct of nature. Just like they'll never understand what it's like to be capable of higher thought, we'll never understand what it's like to be capable of absolute depravity.

(mooncakey )
gender ideology 🤝 pedophilia

BlackCirce & proudcatlady #sexist #homophobia ovarit.com

(BlackCirce)
male homosexuality is a trip

(proudcatlady)
I wish it weren’t glorified so much tbh. Male sexuality, for ALL men, is so depraved, dehumanizing, and just wrong. I don’t find it suddenly okay when they go after each other and are completely free to just treat each other like sex toys. It’s bad enough in hetero relationships when there’s a woman to kind of make the man sort of behave most of the time, but gay male sexual behavior really show the full ugliness of male sexuality. Blech.

various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

If you’re not including TW, then you aren’t really supporting women

( TransWidow )

"If your black rights activism doesn't include white people, it isn't black rights activism", "If your gay rights group isn't fighting for straight people's rights, it isn't gay rights activism", "If your group fighting against child abuse doesn't include adults, then you hate children", "If your animal welfare organization isn't centered on plants, you're a bigot".

We should just start repeating these when we hear that claim about feminism.

Of course this one

"If your gay rights group isn't fighting for straight people's rights, it isn't gay rights activism"

isn't satire anymore


( femlez34 )
Re: gay rights activism, definitely. Just like the word "trans" means nothing at this point, the word "queer" is also so "inclusive" as to mean absolutely nothing. Lesbian spaces are flooded with straight TIMs, and also equal numbers of straight women married to men who admit that going down on a woman would be gross to them, but they love being "queer". Like wtf does that even mean?

Like 10-20 years ago I was involved in LGB activism to bring about marriage equality, but I and everyone I knew doing that stuff stopped years ago. We kind of got what we wanted and moved on. All the "LGBT" groups I used to support are LGB in name only, they only work on trans issues and just keep the "LGB" in the name for clout. It functions to trick straight people who aren't keeping up on these issues to blindly support them. Honestly I'm actively against them now because for the most part "trans rights" means going backwards on women's rights and embracing homophobia and conversion therapy for homosexuals.

( Boudicaea )
Perfect encapsulation of the problem.

The demand that women center men/"trans women" in feminism is the height of sexism. It relies on the gendered notion that women always be self sacrificing. That we always put everyone else's needs first. There is nothing more anti-feminist than the idea that TWAW.

Various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( pennygadget )
So Abbot is committing genocide by demanding that trans youth NOT be systematically sterilized, experimented on, and chemically lobotomized?

I don't think TRAs know what "genocide" means

( Hollyhock )
"genocide against trans kids" equates to letting kids wear what they want, play w/ toys they want and not sterilizing them. Okay, then.

( NO )
Oh, you think being called sir is genocide? Hope you get fucking drafted scrote.

( butchplease )
In Germany, these perverted men are actually appropriating the Holocaust for themselves.

There's very little I hate more than perverted men who are getting off on the thought of "genocide". You know they're wanking to it.

( Yemaya )
These AGP men are so interested in “trans kids” because they need narrative that there’s such a thin as “trans kids” to keep living their fetish publicly.


( hmimperialtortie )
Plus they want children sterilised and kept permanently undeveloped (physically and mentally) so they have permanent fucktoys. These men are child rapists.


( starwars )
Many AGPs enjoy fantasizing (sometimes in a sexual way) about being in those children's shoes.

( Carrots90 )
“Trendicide”

when you prevent kids from sacrificing their health, organs, fertility, etc to the latest social contagion

Various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

(sarstan)
Losing my mind

I sometimes feel like I'm on a path to madness as I watch the world accept man after man as women. I have tried to do a mental game where I imagine what the world would be like if I just let men be women and don't worry about it, but I always come back to what's being done to kids, and women who don't have a voice or a choice, forced to be with men in prisons & shelters, or women in medical care forced to accept a male who's larping as a woman touching them intimately without the ability to speak up. I dunno. I'm burned out by it all and at the end of my rope. I'm ovarit. Anyone else?

( ProxyMusic )
Yes, I've felt like I'm going out of my mind for several years now. I'm at the end of my tether too.

I dunno how we ended up in a world where it's considered bigoted not to believe that clearly deranged, depraved men with sexual fetishes are women, and where big strapping full-grown blokes in fetish gear - including convicted sex criminals - are portrayed as "the most vulnerable" people in society.

I often refer to the sick, twisted world we're now living in as Caliguland.

( sarstan )
100% agree. This only leads to zero boundaries or accountablity for men and gross sex shit all around us, including in public.

( BlankandPitiless )
I have been saying for 6 years that the left is just as susceptible to propaganda and brainwashing as the right, maybe even more so because they consider themselves to be more intelligent. I have watched over and over again liberal people be taken in by con artists who say the right things and are the right demographics despite mountains of evidence that what they say isn't true. I have watched them push perverse agendas at the expense of women and children all while pretending its empowering and enlightened. And I KNOW all of this is largely because women started to get too much power, we had HRC a hair away from the presidency, women were finally speaking up with MeToo, girls are outperforming boys in academics, etc. But instead of realizing that they are being propagandized, the left has bought into it hook line and sinker and they will SILENCE anyone that disagrees. It's worse than anything I have ever seen on the right. I don't agree with all of their fears about immigration or abortion, but I understand the logic of why they feel that way however wrong it is. I simply do not understand how someone can say a man is a woman and a penis is female.

HuaMulan & actualdyke #transphobia ovarit.com

(HuaMulan)
When talking about trans-identified people, we should make sure

Now, there are plenty of valid reasons for people to change their first names. These range from "my past traumatizes me and I would like to symbolically start off fresh" to "I would like to honor my heritage." In cases like these, I'd probably be more than happy to oblige when dealing with people who have adopted new names.

However, if the reason for the name change is motivated by gender confusion, criminal activity, or other malicious factors, I will not honor it. The "trans" people everywhere around us are pretty much criminals, anyway, considering how they treat actual women. In instances where the "trans" name is much more familiar than the "dead" name, I can understand the motive for additional clarification if necessary, but let's try to ensure that it's clear which name is the "real" name (e.g. "Jaron (Jazz) is one of the most notorious Munchausen by Proxy victims of this trans social contagion.").

Bottom line is, if he was born Jaron but changed his identity to a "she" named Jazz, then we use "him" and "Jaron". If she was born Ellen but changed her identity to a "he" named Elliot, then we use "she" and "Ellen." End of story.

I simply cannot understand why we, as radical feminists, should be honoring their demands and rewarding them; it just fuels their delusion and if unchecked, their problem only gets more and more severe. Plus, it opens up more cans of worms: if we should use their preferred names, why shouldn't we honor their preferred pronouns too? Or their preferred sports teams, restroom choices, changing rooms, female-only schools and universities, etc.

EDIT: removed "trans exclusionary" from text!

( actualdyke )
absolutely agree. the only time i will use a TIP's ""preferred"" name is if i don't know their real name and cant find it anywhere, but still need to refer to them. even then i'll usually make a snarky joke out of it or use a correctly-sexed version of the name (aka rachel -> richard) because i simply refuse to play into their narcissistic delusions.

Various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE:Stop right there sir! Were you about to fetishize that lesbian? Not without this lipstick you weren't. Now go get em tiger!

( carbon0va )

Men wouldn't do that bcos they want to be the special man, not to pretend to be a woman

The truth just slips out, doesn't it.


( XX_Power )
Well he has a point that they're different. Lesbian fetishizing men are scumbags while TIMs are delusional scumbags in ugly clothes.

(butchplease )
Whatever helps you feel better about being a sexual predator, I guess.

( notyourfetish )
Men make me sick to my stomach. Just actually sick. They can't just leave us alone. A billion straight women on the planet and they obsess over the 2% lesbians

Fuck off, rapists. Get out of our spaces, get off our dating apps. LESBIANS DON'T WANT YOU.

( hmimperialtortie )
Transmoids really are the lowest of the low.

( mathlover )
Two different motivations for heterosexual men to want to rape lesbians. At the root of both, though, are the fundamentals of male socialized sexuality. Men feeling they are entitled to ALL women's bodies, and the gratification of violating women (ie; lesbians) who would never desire them or consent to be with them.

sapphicafemme , Gladys_Kravitz & Stealthygal #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Sometimes I can’t believe that some parents pretend their minor children are the opposite sex

( sapphicafemme )
They hate their kids and want to set the up for failure. On top of that, they get to use the “my kid’s trans” card anytime they need to get out of a tough situation. It’s not hard. It’s a win/win especially when both parents are on board.

[...]

( Gladys_Kravitz )
Those parents aren't scared or confused either. They want to deliberately punish and hurt their children, or they can't be bothered to actually sit down and listen to their kids. Those services are super expensive, many cold, distant, rich parents can't be bothered to actually connect with their kids and send them off to those torture camps.

Ignorance is not a valid defense when it comes to suspending someone's civil and human rights. You also cannot get away with saying "but I thought it would help them!" because that also isn't a valid defense. Parents who beat the devil out of their children also think they're helping them, but we all recognize it's abuse and hold them accountable despite how scared or confused they might be.

Parents of trans kids are no different. They are deliberately hurting their children and need to be held accountable, despite their personal worries or feelings over the issue.

Edit: for some reason people interpret things like this as "ONLY the parents should get in trouble" which is so far from what I mean it's actually laughable.

Every single adult involved with the transition of a child needs to be held accountable. Don't go after just one type of person, they are all responsible. The doctors, the therapists, the parents, etc. They have all colluded against the child.

[...]

( Stealthygal )
It's a polite fiction we maintain. Nobody wants to be like homophobes of the past who said gay people were sick and wrong. And we can all think to ourselves "well gosh yes how we feel inside is super important, if this person feels inside that they are a different sex then it's really good to affirm them because it would be so cruel and wrong to tell them otherwise".

womenshealthnurse & proudcatlady #transphobia #sexist ovarit.com

RE: Being a TRA as Male Privilege

( womenshealthnurse )
I'm married to a man and I do find it endlessly interesting how different our experiences of the world are. His world is so much less scary than mine and has been that way for his whole life.

I've also become more aware recently of how differently I feel when I'm out in public with him vs when I'm out in public alone. I am more vigilant and aware when I'm alone than when we are together.

Interesting to tie this in with the aggressive nature of TIM's attacks on women and treating us as though we are histrionic for not wanting men in our private spaces. It does track that they would not have awareness of how vulnerable we can feel when men are present in those spaces.

[…]

(proudcatlady )
I think some of this is down to men not valuing life the way we do. Not even their own. It reminds me of how my parents would make me save up to buy something they could just afford to buy me because they wanted me to learn the value of money so I’d take care of my things better. Men don’t do anything to create life so of course they don’t value it at all.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

(gncautistic)
All the surgery and hormones will never make them women

This fact just makes me happy lol

(bunyip )
That made me start to wonder, what if it actually did? If pills could actually turn a man into a woman, how many of them would stop taking the pills when they were disappointed with the results? They'd have periods and have to deal with all of the actual negatives, and they wouldn't be the cute anime girls all the AGPs hoped to become.

But then I realized they wouldn't care. They'd all do it as a form of porn. They still do it now with those horrific open wounds meant to resemble a vagina, they'd definitely do it if pills could make the real thing. A lot of non-trans guys would do it for the fetish as well. So, yeah... thank goodness they can never become women.

(Omina_Sentenziosa )
Just look at how it went with genital reconfiguration surgery: it' s too expensive, often mediocre in results and brings medical and psychological issues. So what did they do to still be able to live their fetish without the downsides? They moved the goalposts, so now they get off on forcing their presence in women' s spaces, they made sure that womanhood is not about bodies but about feelings they claim to have (so they can do the easy part of wearing make-up, dresses and shoes without permanent issues) and so on.

Taking that pill would be another fetish, if they found out that it doesn' t bring the pleasure they were expecting, they would just make sure that a pill that does is created. I don' t believe most of them actually want to be women anyway, even the ones who say that they would want to get pregnant seem to be more interested in harvesting women' s bodies and/or throwing shower parties without the nine months of pregnancy, the delivery and whatever happens after it.

( WhinoRhino )
"Taking that pill would be another fetish, if they found out that it doesn' t bring the pleasure they were expecting...."

Considering how shit men are in bed it definitely wouldn't bring them any pleasure. They'd find that out right quick.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Males (highlighted in pink) of r/actuallesbians upset that the lesbian dating app HER is flooded with other men
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( mathlover )
Omg, that is hilarious. AGP heterosexual mlae predators are angry because their prey (lesbians) have mostly abandoned the dating apps. And male chasers, who want girldick, are now preying on the AGP het men. Rofl. Every AGP het male larping as a "lesbian" deserves this.

Now there just needs to be a way for lesbians (you know, XX + XX) to privately meet each other, totally excluding all males no matter how they "feel" or "identify". Leave the guys all stuck with each other.

( butchplease )
They do this on purpose, they fetishise and appropriate the lesbian existence to such an extent that they even get off on parroting lesbians who are upset at the destruction of our own spaces due to the very men whose boners thrive on mimicking our misery. This isn't them being stupid or wilfully obtuse. This is them wanking themselves off to the thought of lesbian culture being murdered.

( shewolfoffrance )
they fetishise and appropriate the lesbian existence to such an extent that they even get off on parroting lesbians who are upset at the destruction of our own spaces due to the very men whose boners thrive on mimicking our misery

I think the same thing is going on with "gender critical transwomen" like Debbie Hayton. They get a little shot of validation by mimicking terfs, and if they're lucky, some headpats too.

( butchplease )
YUP. Mark my words, the next thing they'll conquer will be radical feminism. At the moment, there's nothing more undeniably female than being a terf. It'll be their next big thing to appropriate.

( femlez34 )
Yeah, I'd be shocked if there weren't TIMs on this site already larping as "terfs".


( butchplease )
Oh no, you've just unlocked a whole realm of horror to my mind.