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Various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

( HildegardVonBees )

We know that trans and non-binary people have existed for thousands of years.

eye roll


( hmimperialtortie )
They don’t fucking exist now, let alone for millennia. Neither condition is real.

Unless that’s a roundabout way of saying liars and fantasists have existed for millennia, in which case, sure.


( Eava )
And where are all the suicides? How were the morgues not full of teenagers who couldn't live as the opposite sex?


( Carthimundia )
Exactly. Why has this suddenly become a life threatening condition where children need treatment or they will kill themselves? The DSM in the late 80s reported that children with gender dysphoria grow out of it on their own as they mature. Why has this naturally terminating mental health condition suddenly become terminal in the last decade?


( pennygadget )

And where are all the suicides? How were the morgues not full of teenagers who couldn't live as the opposite sex?

Exactly! If trans kids have ALWAYS been a thing and not giving them hormones is a guaranteed suicide, than why isn't history full of child suicides?

On the contrary, child suicide was incredibly rare up until very recently even among kids with hard lives. We didn't see masses of Black kids killing themselves during slavery and Jim Crowe. But I'm supposed to believe that masses of trans eight year olds will leap into traffic like lemmings if Greg Abbott doesn't give them Lupron and let them shit in whatever bathroom they want?

Various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

(sarstan)
Losing my mind

I sometimes feel like I'm on a path to madness as I watch the world accept man after man as women. I have tried to do a mental game where I imagine what the world would be like if I just let men be women and don't worry about it, but I always come back to what's being done to kids, and women who don't have a voice or a choice, forced to be with men in prisons & shelters, or women in medical care forced to accept a male who's larping as a woman touching them intimately without the ability to speak up. I dunno. I'm burned out by it all and at the end of my rope. I'm ovarit. Anyone else?

( ProxyMusic )
Yes, I've felt like I'm going out of my mind for several years now. I'm at the end of my tether too.

I dunno how we ended up in a world where it's considered bigoted not to believe that clearly deranged, depraved men with sexual fetishes are women, and where big strapping full-grown blokes in fetish gear - including convicted sex criminals - are portrayed as "the most vulnerable" people in society.

I often refer to the sick, twisted world we're now living in as Caliguland.

( sarstan )
100% agree. This only leads to zero boundaries or accountablity for men and gross sex shit all around us, including in public.

( BlankandPitiless )
I have been saying for 6 years that the left is just as susceptible to propaganda and brainwashing as the right, maybe even more so because they consider themselves to be more intelligent. I have watched over and over again liberal people be taken in by con artists who say the right things and are the right demographics despite mountains of evidence that what they say isn't true. I have watched them push perverse agendas at the expense of women and children all while pretending its empowering and enlightened. And I KNOW all of this is largely because women started to get too much power, we had HRC a hair away from the presidency, women were finally speaking up with MeToo, girls are outperforming boys in academics, etc. But instead of realizing that they are being propagandized, the left has bought into it hook line and sinker and they will SILENCE anyone that disagrees. It's worse than anything I have ever seen on the right. I don't agree with all of their fears about immigration or abortion, but I understand the logic of why they feel that way however wrong it is. I simply do not understand how someone can say a man is a woman and a penis is female.

HuaMulan & actualdyke #transphobia ovarit.com

(HuaMulan)
When talking about trans-identified people, we should make sure

Now, there are plenty of valid reasons for people to change their first names. These range from "my past traumatizes me and I would like to symbolically start off fresh" to "I would like to honor my heritage." In cases like these, I'd probably be more than happy to oblige when dealing with people who have adopted new names.

However, if the reason for the name change is motivated by gender confusion, criminal activity, or other malicious factors, I will not honor it. The "trans" people everywhere around us are pretty much criminals, anyway, considering how they treat actual women. In instances where the "trans" name is much more familiar than the "dead" name, I can understand the motive for additional clarification if necessary, but let's try to ensure that it's clear which name is the "real" name (e.g. "Jaron (Jazz) is one of the most notorious Munchausen by Proxy victims of this trans social contagion.").

Bottom line is, if he was born Jaron but changed his identity to a "she" named Jazz, then we use "him" and "Jaron". If she was born Ellen but changed her identity to a "he" named Elliot, then we use "she" and "Ellen." End of story.

I simply cannot understand why we, as radical feminists, should be honoring their demands and rewarding them; it just fuels their delusion and if unchecked, their problem only gets more and more severe. Plus, it opens up more cans of worms: if we should use their preferred names, why shouldn't we honor their preferred pronouns too? Or their preferred sports teams, restroom choices, changing rooms, female-only schools and universities, etc.

EDIT: removed "trans exclusionary" from text!

( actualdyke )
absolutely agree. the only time i will use a TIP's ""preferred"" name is if i don't know their real name and cant find it anywhere, but still need to refer to them. even then i'll usually make a snarky joke out of it or use a correctly-sexed version of the name (aka rachel -> richard) because i simply refuse to play into their narcissistic delusions.

SakuraBlossoms #transphobia ovarit.com

"My nephew did not choose to be trans..."

She chose her "identity" based on an unproven social theory that she could have lived her whole life without learning about. "Gender" as they all say is just a social construct, and this groomer's niece could have been raised in a culture where the social construct of being a boy was completely different. It could have been opposite--the social construct assigned to the male sex could have been wearing a dress and makeup and playing with dolls. Would she still be a boy?

Also, according to TRAs there is no physical requirement to be a boy, you can have a girl's body and call yourself a boy if you want to. You are apparently equally valid as a boy whether you are male, a female on steroids, or a female who has done no damage to her body. They claim you don't need body dysphoria or any type of gender dysphoria to be trans. And how can you know if you are comfortable with your body or genitals when you haven't even given them a chance to develop??? Choosing to destroy one's body is fully a choice, considering so many trans don't even do it. And we all agree that since children cannot consent, they cannot make the choice if they want to have sex or not, but they can make the choice to permanently destroy their bodies?!?!? While being fed lies with many genuinely believing they'll actually end up with something remotely resembling the other sex rather than suffer irreparable harm?? Even adults are denied informed consent in this regard as the TRA rhetoric pretends steroids and even genital butchery is safe.

But yeah, being tall, gay, or left-handed is the same as proposing a child can consent to bodily destruction. And there are actually people who do not realize their full sexuality until they are 18 or older, or especially until their later teens. Transing kids is like making kids lock in on their sexuality at 10 by doing some sort of permanent mutilation. That'd be insane! Look at all the asexual 11-year-olds who have been groomed to state a sexuality long before they should be thinking about sex. Maybe a few of them will turn out to be genuinely asexual but for the most part, they probably just didn't start feeling sexual attraction yet because they're children. Look at all the kids who might think they're straight at 13 because the homophobia around them has made them uncomfortable with even considering if they might be LGB.
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Slippery Slope Award

also: Doomsday Fiction Award

SecondSkin #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: The End Game
(submitters note: question posed "What do you think the end game is with trans ideology?")

It’s to teach us a lesson for those damned suffragettes. And time loop us back before their time. And keep us there permanently.

Women have the vote right? Wrong. Once anyone who feels like a woman is one we no longer can assess how women as a group vote. We can’t use the data to figure out what the female electorate wants prioritised, or which parties represent woman’s issues or for political parties to canvas female voter needs and appeal to us. The group women will forever exclude some actual women and include men. And there will be no way to ever address this, we will be worse off that the suffragettes were, because at least they could hold meetings for women to change things. We won’t ever have that opportunity if self id comes in because any women’s group will have to be open to men also. And they’ll talk over us. And tell us that female health needs or employment needs or childcare and so on are not women’s issues because they don’t effect them, but that prostrate cancer and free boob jobs on the nhs need centred as the women’s issue funding needs directed too. And that they feel the rape survivor groups the government funds should now focus on sex work as a way of empowering survivors to find sex positivity and that playboy party Friday is the new weekly world book day in schools. And what the fuck can us actual women do about it? Nothing, not once self id is legal. Even way way way back when we were owned by our husbands and not allowed Education we had greater chance at improving women’s rights than we will if self id comes in- because at least then we could say what a woman was, we could create underground groups to tackle women’s needs and rights. And obviously it worked over time. But self id comes in and that won’t even be an option, because so many women are pro twaw line. So they’d infiltrate any attempt we made to expose us and have us punished. All while our children are in schools being brainwashed into believing twaw from birth, by drag queen teachers. So the truth would die with us. Except somewhere deep down our girls would know, they just would never have the language for it, having had their tongues tied by mantra and the history books trans-washed.

This is the end result. The ultimate silencing. With no way of the truth reasserting itself ever.

Various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

RE:Stop right there sir! Were you about to fetishize that lesbian? Not without this lipstick you weren't. Now go get em tiger!

( carbon0va )

Men wouldn't do that bcos they want to be the special man, not to pretend to be a woman

The truth just slips out, doesn't it.


( XX_Power )
Well he has a point that they're different. Lesbian fetishizing men are scumbags while TIMs are delusional scumbags in ugly clothes.

(butchplease )
Whatever helps you feel better about being a sexual predator, I guess.

( notyourfetish )
Men make me sick to my stomach. Just actually sick. They can't just leave us alone. A billion straight women on the planet and they obsess over the 2% lesbians

Fuck off, rapists. Get out of our spaces, get off our dating apps. LESBIANS DON'T WANT YOU.

( hmimperialtortie )
Transmoids really are the lowest of the low.

( mathlover )
Two different motivations for heterosexual men to want to rape lesbians. At the root of both, though, are the fundamentals of male socialized sexuality. Men feeling they are entitled to ALL women's bodies, and the gratification of violating women (ie; lesbians) who would never desire them or consent to be with them.

Various Commenters #transphobia ovarit.com

(eggs_of_steel)
And what about children's instinct?

A point not made much mention of is that fact that bodies matter, and humans instinctively, as children, know this.

Forcing girls and young women to share their spaces and to not go with their very natural instinct of recognising (with near 100% accuracy) a male human, is forcing them to gaslight themselves about what they see and who to be wary of.

( pennygadget )
It also grooms them to ignore the inner "danger radar" that all kids (and ESPECIALLY GIRLS) have and need to cultivate. We're training girls to believe that it's bigoted for them to question a man's presence in their space even when they're obviously creepy.

IMO, the goal of this trans nonsense is to train girls to ignore the inner voice that tells them "DANGER!! RUN AWAY!" until that voice just dies altogether


( bellatrixbells )
I'm already of the opinion that woke culture teaches us to ignore our instinct anyways. I've tolerated more than one black, latino or arab men being creepy or insistent because I was afraid of being called racist. In one case it ended very badly for me.


( eggs_of_steel )
oh lawd yes same.


( bellatrixbells )
I hate to read this. We're really in a bind 😠

( Researcher1536 )
I can't separate TRAs from pedos and/or pedo apologists. We've seen a mountain of alarming evidence that makes it clear that this movement seeks to breakdown child safeguarding in all its forms, wants women silenced because we protect each other and children, and will stop at nothing but total obedience to this insidious ideology that wants to upend the very things that make us human.


( Misssarcasm )
The venn diagramme is a circle


( hmimperialtortie )
There’s no point trying to separate them, is there? TRAs are caping for paedophiles whether they mean to or not.

femlez34 #transphobia ovarit.com

Oh my god, I'm so sorry this happened to you.

I would say for a lot of allies, they really just don't know any AGP TIMs irl. Maybe one of their friends has a 12 year old daughter who is experimenting with her hair and wearing bowties or something and they see it as normal adolescent exploration, they hear people they respect on tv telling them that trans people really do have the brains of the opposite sex and they believe it. Why wouldn't they? No one has enough time in the day to question literally everything they hear and quit their jobs to go do scientific research on everything. We're a trusting species. Every morning when I turn on my tap to get a drink of water I'm trusting hundreds of government officials and utility company employees and my building management that this water is safe.

I peaked the same way you did, being sexually harassed non-stop in lesbian spaces by AGPs. Like you said, it becomes impossible to believe that this person has a "girl brain" when they don't act anything like any woman you've ever met. I've never met a woman who blows up and threatens to rape me when I politely turn her down for a date. I have a bi friend who was stalked by a TIM that would hang out on her block and text her that he would knock her unconscious when she came home from work. Instead of being innocent people who are safer than "cis" men, it's the opposite. TIMs have a much higher concentration of sexual predators and perverts than normal men, and the prison statistics back it up (TIMs incarcerated at 4x the rate of normal men, and ~50% of them in jail for sex offenses compared to ~10% of regular men). These are not people who need a green light to walk into public locker rooms so that they can get a sexual thrill from flashing their penises at 6 year old girls. We need to keep waking people up to the reality of this situation.

sapphicafemme , Gladys_Kravitz & Stealthygal #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Sometimes I can’t believe that some parents pretend their minor children are the opposite sex

( sapphicafemme )
They hate their kids and want to set the up for failure. On top of that, they get to use the “my kid’s trans” card anytime they need to get out of a tough situation. It’s not hard. It’s a win/win especially when both parents are on board.

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( Gladys_Kravitz )
Those parents aren't scared or confused either. They want to deliberately punish and hurt their children, or they can't be bothered to actually sit down and listen to their kids. Those services are super expensive, many cold, distant, rich parents can't be bothered to actually connect with their kids and send them off to those torture camps.

Ignorance is not a valid defense when it comes to suspending someone's civil and human rights. You also cannot get away with saying "but I thought it would help them!" because that also isn't a valid defense. Parents who beat the devil out of their children also think they're helping them, but we all recognize it's abuse and hold them accountable despite how scared or confused they might be.

Parents of trans kids are no different. They are deliberately hurting their children and need to be held accountable, despite their personal worries or feelings over the issue.

Edit: for some reason people interpret things like this as "ONLY the parents should get in trouble" which is so far from what I mean it's actually laughable.

Every single adult involved with the transition of a child needs to be held accountable. Don't go after just one type of person, they are all responsible. The doctors, the therapists, the parents, etc. They have all colluded against the child.

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( Stealthygal )
It's a polite fiction we maintain. Nobody wants to be like homophobes of the past who said gay people were sick and wrong. And we can all think to ourselves "well gosh yes how we feel inside is super important, if this person feels inside that they are a different sex then it's really good to affirm them because it would be so cruel and wrong to tell them otherwise".

mathlover #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: r/MtF OP finds Buffalo Bill relatable, but is mad about the negative media representation for TiMs

Buffalo Bill is the prototype for every AGP "trans" male today, which is nearly all of them. They all identify with some aspect(s) of Buffalo Bill.

VestalVirgin & Misssarcasm #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: It’s Hard to be Nonbinary and Have PCOS When Medical Language is Still so Gendered - The Unwritten

( VestalVirgin )
I have a lot of compassion for women with PCOS, but this shit ...

Really, how about we just don't let women with speshul gender identities access healthcare meant for women anymore?

Whenever they realize that their health is more important than their egotrip, they can admit they're women and get access. I mean, apparently her PCOS isn't so bad yet if she can still think her hurt genderfeelz are the main reason why it's "hard".

( Misssarcasm )
This sister. If they dont want to be part of the team, dont let them use our ressources. Surely there are enough EnBys with medical degrees to handle their physical problems which are in no way related their physical bodies. And just imagine how tRigGeRed they must feel when entering a female-only room!!

femlez34 , proudcatlady & actualdyke #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: The only question we need to ask TRAs

( femlez34 )
Their response is that "trans women" are magically incapable of criminal activity. If you believe in the oppression olympics, it's only cis white straight Christian males who are capable of wrongdoing, everyone else is only ever a victim. It doesn't matter if you tell them that 50% of TIMs are in jail for committing sex crimes, then they'll say "well, those aren't trans women then, they must be cis men pretending to be trans women". Then you can respond, "okay, well if cis male sex predators are so good at convincing prison wardens and doctors and judges that they're 'real trans women', what's going to keep them out of women's public bathrooms and locker rooms?"

Ultimately it doesn't matter what a person's gender soul is if the result is the same. TRA's will never concede that TIMs aren't women, the best we can do is get them to concede that the result is increased violence against women and children. The TIMs themself of course don't care, any number of women raped is acceptable collateral damage for one man's fetish fulfillment, but most reasonable liberals won't agree.

( proudcatlady )
They think men are more violent to transwomen than to actual women. They will tell you that with a straight face.

( actualdyke )
the true answer that they don't wanna say out loud: they know males are dangerous, they're just willing to sacrifice women and unwilling to sacrifice TIMs.

actualdyke #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: TIMs don't understand that the positive attention they receive from woke women comes from pity

a theory to add to this: even the most woke of allies notices how 'lesbian' TIMs almost exclusively seek sexual encounters with those who are not attracted to them. Therefore their constant fawning and compliments and validation is lowkey them trying to avoid the rapey nature of TIMs, because they know that the more disinterested and unattracted you seem, the more TIMs will force themselves upon you.

actualdyke & n3847 #transphobia ovarit.com

actualdyke:
Transactivism: the only "rights" movement that loses support as people learn more.

Title says it all really. It just completely astounds me that they continue to attempt to legitimize their movement by comparing it to the fight for civil rights or the fight for women's rights or the fight for gay rights. What all those movements had in common is while they may have been met with bigotry all throughout and still to this day, the general pattern is that the more the public learned about each group and the more the public learned about their movement and their goals and their requests, the more support they got & the more they changed people's minds about them, until finally they gained those rights and that support. Transactivism seems to be the only movement going the opposite way - they suddenly captured every institution in the West and have more support than any legitimate rights movement would ever dream of getting so fast (not to mention they have all the rights they claim not to have & more), yet the more TRUTH about them that the public learns, the more that that support seems to diminish & the more people are turning against them, not towards rhem

n3847:
It's funny when they try to compare themselves to Black people. Black people be like, "Being Black isn't a mental illness", lol. The same with women, being a woman is not a mental illness. Being gay is not a mental illness. It's used to be considered that but, it's not. Homosexuals don't think the OPPOSITE of reality. They're just another sexual orientation. The TRAs keep compare what they are doing to the Gay Rights Movement but they are not the same. Gay Rights Movement's goal was acceptance and assimilation - NOT domination. They didn't seek to brainwash kids into being anything. They didn't promote dangerous and unnecessary surgeries and hormones. They didn't want to invade women's spaces. They didn't seek to convince anyone they were anything, only accept THEM as they are. The more we learn about TR movement, the more I despise them.

I started out as "Transwomen are women", I'm now ready to outlaw "transition" surgeries - therapy ONLY, declare Gender/Trans ideology as a public health crisis, exclude teaching of Trans/Non-Binary anything in schools in all 50 states - LGB only, ban them from sports altogether, and go to the Supreme Court to throw them out of women's spaces in all 50 states

NotEnoughPages , n3847 & hmimperialtortie #transphobia ovarit.com

( NotEnoughPages )
Why are TIMs so jealous of the violence we've suffered? Why must they constantly romanticize our suffering as "cis privilege" and, simultaneously, dismiss our lived reality? Why the need to disabuse us of our trauma in lieu of their own alleged oppression?

( n3847 )
These people are deranged. What does being raped as a teen have to do with "transphobia"? I just find it ironic that the community of "empathy" and "acceptance" has no compassion for a rape victim in their own community. They'll cynically use trans rape victims and suicides but will shit all over those same people when that person can't give them unadulterated worship and validation. Her story wasn't about them but they took offense to it because it wasn't about THEIR pain and oppression. Everything has to be about them. I have no doubt that is was mostly Tran-Identified Males that took offense. She would probably get alot more compassion here than she would in the trans community. I feel sorry for her because her "transition" was probably a means of escaping that trauma and she didn't need them. They're self-centered vultures who only care about themselves.

( hmimperialtortie )
It’s a male supremacist movement, there was never going to be any sympathy for women and girls, whether they claim to be men or not. It’s their place to be the sexual property of transvestite men.

( n3847 )
I don't really think they're that deep in terms of thinking. They're just raging narcissists and fetishists with the male tendency of expecting obedience from others. I think you're giving them way too much credit, lol.

( hmimperialtortie )
Individually they may not be, but the movement is MRAs in drag. It’s deliberate. Its point is to destroy women’s rights.

actualdyke & butchplease #transphobia #conspiracy ovarit.com

(actualdyke)
Do y'all think "the shift" was intentional?

By "the shift" I mean the unidentified turning point over the last ~half-decade where transgender activism moved from 'we just want to live' 'we just want to pee' 'we just want to work', to 'we are biological women, sleep with us or you're transphobic, if you see us flashing our hard-ons in the locker room just look away bigot'. This shift has always intrigued me because I for example, as a young teen heavily entrenched in the Internet, definitely recall the earlier trans movement as being much less hostile and much more 'normative' than it is now. You also hear stories of transsexuals in the past working alongside women, ultimately acknowledging themselves as males, etc. But on the other hand, you have all these insane trans manifestos from the 70s that clearly outline their goal of replacing real women & declaring themselves superior which are kiiind of hard to ignore lmao.

As always, whenever I puzzle over these things, I like to turn to the women of Ovarit. I'm sure all of you have different experiences with transactivism, especially the older ladies here, and I'd love to hear your thoughts. Do you think the trans movement genuinely started as a rights movement that turned sour once blue haired activists jumped on it, or do you think it was sinister from the get-go and they intentionally started out innocuous so that they could go full transycho once they successfully infiltrated everywhere in the west? (I personally lean towards the latter lol)

( butchplease )
One hundred fucking percent. This is all highly intentional. This is orchestrated. Whatever you think of men, you will have to admit that they are extremely good at using their capital to push women back under the boot in the most psychologically destructive ways imaginable. This must be THE most efficient backlash against feminism in the history of women's rights. Within just a few years, men have managed to demonise us completely, to erase our class consciousness, and to make us willing participants in our own downfall. It's absolutely astounding. And women won't wake up until it's too late.

Sesostris , sojourner_truth_ & sapphicafemme #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

(Sesostris)
Teacher has a 'transition closet' for kids to change in

He has a closet so that kids can come to school in 'parent-approved' clothes and then get changed into their 'true self' clothes at school.

Twitter link: https://twitter.com/Teacher_Exposed/status/1493418406468468745

This is pretty freaking unbelievable, and if I were a parent, I'd be furious.

(sojourner_truth_ )
There's no way this teacher hasn't hidden a camera in that changing booth. The school bathrooms are right there, and he could even make a big show of sending TIM students to the girl's bathroom for even more woke points. But he has a booth instead so he can plant like 6 cameras in there.

( sapphicafemme )
They just need to stop letting men teach or be around children. They don’t know how to act. When I was a kid and went to a uniform school, I’d change to wear something else I liked. I went to that bathroom to change. I can’t even fathom what’s going through this man’s head that made him think putting up a “transition closet” was a better choice than just changing in the bathroom. Either there’s a camera in there or he desperately wants to be in the same room as a child changing their clothes. There’s no way. There’s no way there isn’t something weird going on here. If men don’t want to figure it out and fix it, they need to be taken out of the classroom

Owlchaser #transphobia ovarit.com

(submitters note: in response to a trans woman tweeting "Hello I'm one of these "trans activists" and here are my insane demands:
- I want to be able to carry on using the toilets I do already
- I want access to healthcare for me and my friends
- I want the 4x rise in hate crimes to be addressed
- I want you to leave us alone")

I want to be able to carry on being a voyeuristic male, using the women's toilets, as I do already
I want you and everyone else in society to pay for unnecessary mutilating cosmetic surgeries, for me and my friends
I want men to stop killing each other (???)
I want you to shut up and get back in the kitchen

womenshealthnurse & proudcatlady #transphobia #sexist ovarit.com

RE: Being a TRA as Male Privilege

( womenshealthnurse )
I'm married to a man and I do find it endlessly interesting how different our experiences of the world are. His world is so much less scary than mine and has been that way for his whole life.

I've also become more aware recently of how differently I feel when I'm out in public with him vs when I'm out in public alone. I am more vigilant and aware when I'm alone than when we are together.

Interesting to tie this in with the aggressive nature of TIM's attacks on women and treating us as though we are histrionic for not wanting men in our private spaces. It does track that they would not have awareness of how vulnerable we can feel when men are present in those spaces.

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(proudcatlady )
I think some of this is down to men not valuing life the way we do. Not even their own. It reminds me of how my parents would make me save up to buy something they could just afford to buy me because they wanted me to learn the value of money so I’d take care of my things better. Men don’t do anything to create life so of course they don’t value it at all.

Hyacinth & Veneficca #transphobia #pratt ovarit.com

( Hyacinth )
I am worried about the men "transitioning" which means no SRS, "trans-genders" not trans-sexuals who will start thinking being a "legal woman" will mean easier access in adopting and fostering as a single man excuse me as "a single woman"

I believe in some places/states adoption & fostering is open to single men? I'm not sure how prevalent it is, but wait, first the transgender pedophiles will start thinking and saying access to kids and infants should be easier then it will become easier, as the holy trans label will allow them to escape the proper scrutiny attended to men and they will claim discrimination and transphobia at every turn.

There are ways around financial roadblocks with multiple pedophilies financing the ploy for trafficked young victims. Nothing stoping "a mother" from leaving the country with her child.

Really dark days a head of us.


( Veneficca )
Yep, I've had the same fears. Can you imagine someone like Yaniv offering to foster young girls? TIMs holding playdates with other TIMs? Pedo paradise.

It's always the most disadvantaged and vulnerable hurt by this. Women in shelters and prisons. Foster kids. It's a never ending horror film.

DietCokeAddict , BJ581 & sojourner_truth_ #kinkshaming #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Biden's new Dept of Energy hire is genderfluid who is a furry WTAF?????

( DietCokeAddict )
Lol at the outraged replies - one says

This is out of context! He doesn’t have sex with animals, he has sex with male humans who act like “pups”

Oh well that’s totally normal then.

( BJ581 )
Exactly. Furries and the like that sexualize non-human animals need to start being viewed like “altruistic pedophiles.” All that means is “hasn’t abused a non-human animal yet.” It’s still an inappropriate sexualization of a non-consenting being, and it’s disgusting and unacceptable.

( sojourner_truth_ )
-minor correction All that means is he claims he hasn't abused an animal yet. Press X to doubt.

( BJ581 )
Absolutely right. Going after victims who can’t defend themselves or tell someone what a worthless piece of garbage you are. The level of pathetic is unmatched. It’s interesting how “masculinity” is always about hurting people/animals so much weaker than yourself. Says something about the fragility of the entire concept.

mathlover #transphobia ovarit.com

There is no TIM who is OK and safe to have as a roommate/housemate or to be with in any private setting. The AGP het male TIMs are ALL rapists. People think these are all poor oppressed gay men who it's safe for women to be around. And the fact that they are a male couple reinforces that belief. When these het men are coupled up, they call themselves "lesbians" but would always rather be with the women they all still very much desire. They will rape women at any opportunity.

WitchKitty , mycelium & MissFeather #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: More TIMs talking about their nazi phases

( WitchKitty )
If they are women on the inside why are they getting radicalized by an ideology that’s designed to cater to white men?

This! Seriously it’s so funny how they don’t seem to think this correlation makes their main argument invalid lol

But what’s weird to me is that the percentage of former/ current nazis are so high in white TIM’s compared to white “cis” men. Technically they are the same physically but there is a clear connection of nazis and transwoman identity. What is it about transgenderism that is so attractive to nazis? Obviously both nazism and trans ideology must offer something similar that this group of men want. Power? Moral superiority complex? An excuse to hate on groups of people? Physical superiority complex?(nazis believe they are the superior race and TIM’s believe they are the superior woman) maybe a combination of all these factors and the reason for them switching from nazi to TIM is because not only can they jerk off to larping as a woman but they are also socially accepted and even revered.

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( mycelium )
I have a theory that nazis/incels transition not due to gender identity, but due to "oppression" identity. Instead of changing their external presentation to match their internal gender identity, I think they are changing their presentation to reflect how oppressed they believe they are. One of the many things gendervangelicals have in common with MRAs and white supremacists is their baseless belief that they are an aggrieved class. Neo-nazis recruit straight white penis people with the assurance that they are the ones who are actually oppressed, but this rhetoric will not score you oppression points on the "left" without some modification. I think it's possible trancels have internalized the delusion that they are the most oppressed, and take on a trans identity to fully actualize their victim status. This has the added benefit of granting them immunity to any scrutiny, especially regarding how exactly they are oppressed for being straight white penis people.


( MissFeather )
I would guess that they're more prone to getting sucked into extreme ideologies in general. They're also more likely to want permission to be hateful; like you said, power.

astro_terf #interphobia #transphobia #ableist ovarit.com

RE: DSDs - How to cut the Gordian knot?
(Submitters note regarding context: discussion about what intersex conditions should categorically exclude someone from women’s spaces)

I would exclude Swyer, CAIS and all other males with DSDs.

Put simply, it's not simply the presence of male sex hormones/ testoterone during development that leads to the physical advantages that males have over females. The presence of female sex hormones during normal development during puberty and afterwards lead to physical disadvantages for women that CAIS males do not experiences.

For example, CAIS males have a height advantage that women do not. Estrogen causes epiphyses to fuse and so women tend to stop growing taller shortly after they reach puberty.

In addition, women develop wider hips to accommodate childbirth, but this is at the cost of an increased likelihood of injuries and a less efficient running stance. See https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/nursing-and-health-professions/q-angle and https://www.livescience.com/59289-why-men-run-faster-than-women.html . Biological males who have never had any of the benefits of testosterone do not experience the disadvantages from estrogen, which would still give them a leg up on women.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

(gncautistic)
All the surgery and hormones will never make them women

This fact just makes me happy lol

(bunyip )
That made me start to wonder, what if it actually did? If pills could actually turn a man into a woman, how many of them would stop taking the pills when they were disappointed with the results? They'd have periods and have to deal with all of the actual negatives, and they wouldn't be the cute anime girls all the AGPs hoped to become.

But then I realized they wouldn't care. They'd all do it as a form of porn. They still do it now with those horrific open wounds meant to resemble a vagina, they'd definitely do it if pills could make the real thing. A lot of non-trans guys would do it for the fetish as well. So, yeah... thank goodness they can never become women.

(Omina_Sentenziosa )
Just look at how it went with genital reconfiguration surgery: it' s too expensive, often mediocre in results and brings medical and psychological issues. So what did they do to still be able to live their fetish without the downsides? They moved the goalposts, so now they get off on forcing their presence in women' s spaces, they made sure that womanhood is not about bodies but about feelings they claim to have (so they can do the easy part of wearing make-up, dresses and shoes without permanent issues) and so on.

Taking that pill would be another fetish, if they found out that it doesn' t bring the pleasure they were expecting, they would just make sure that a pill that does is created. I don' t believe most of them actually want to be women anyway, even the ones who say that they would want to get pregnant seem to be more interested in harvesting women' s bodies and/or throwing shower parties without the nine months of pregnancy, the delivery and whatever happens after it.

( WhinoRhino )
"Taking that pill would be another fetish, if they found out that it doesn' t bring the pleasure they were expecting...."

Considering how shit men are in bed it definitely wouldn't bring them any pleasure. They'd find that out right quick.

ProxyMusic #interphobia #transphobia #ableist ovarit.com

Yes, technically it's easy enough to discover they have it. With the NIPT so cheap that it's come into extremely widespread use, and prenatal sonograms the norm even amongst poor people in poorer nations, fetuses whose karyotypes don't match their genitals are now being identified in the womb. Eventually, no one with CAIS and various other DSDs resulting in external anatomy inconsistent with their chromosomes and genes will be able to claim they didn't find out until puberty.

But that doesn't change the fact, nor will it change the fact, that legally it's not easy to keep persons with CAIS out of women's sports AT ALL. And in my comment, I was solely addressing your claim that it is "easy to keep them out of sports," which is entirely separate to the matter of public toilets - an issue that in the case of CAIS I don't care about and is not something I want to waste time getting into here.

The Caster Semenya case is soon to be heard by the European Court of Human Rights. Semenya is backed by every international "human rights" organization in the world, most of the MSM on the planet, all the powerful institutions in the Western world/Global North, including most major law firms in Europe and the Americas, and all the African and pan-African political organizations with clout and influence. The only country with a large population where the government and the general public seem to be strongly against Semenya and other XY DSD athletes being allowed into women's sports is India.

In this climate, and with all the legal decisions that have been made since the late 1980s, pray tell what exactly are the strategy and legal arguments for keeping CAIS out of women's sports? How are you - or "we" - gonna keep CAIS athletes out when the IAAF/WA have failed in being able to keep out athletes who have a range of other XY DSDs that leave no ambiguity about them being male, and there's no question that they possess the same exact male advantages that all normally-developed males do?

It was "easy enough to discover" that Martinez Patino had CAIS in the mid 1980s when MP sued the IAAF/WA. In fact, MP only sued because the mandatory sex chromosome and genetic testing then in place for all athletes seeking to compete in women's elite international sports easily discovered that MP is XY with CAIS. Yet MP won anyways, and female athletes have been losing out ever since.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Males (highlighted in pink) of r/actuallesbians upset that the lesbian dating app HER is flooded with other men
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( mathlover )
Omg, that is hilarious. AGP heterosexual mlae predators are angry because their prey (lesbians) have mostly abandoned the dating apps. And male chasers, who want girldick, are now preying on the AGP het men. Rofl. Every AGP het male larping as a "lesbian" deserves this.

Now there just needs to be a way for lesbians (you know, XX + XX) to privately meet each other, totally excluding all males no matter how they "feel" or "identify". Leave the guys all stuck with each other.

( butchplease )
They do this on purpose, they fetishise and appropriate the lesbian existence to such an extent that they even get off on parroting lesbians who are upset at the destruction of our own spaces due to the very men whose boners thrive on mimicking our misery. This isn't them being stupid or wilfully obtuse. This is them wanking themselves off to the thought of lesbian culture being murdered.

( shewolfoffrance )
they fetishise and appropriate the lesbian existence to such an extent that they even get off on parroting lesbians who are upset at the destruction of our own spaces due to the very men whose boners thrive on mimicking our misery

I think the same thing is going on with "gender critical transwomen" like Debbie Hayton. They get a little shot of validation by mimicking terfs, and if they're lucky, some headpats too.

( butchplease )
YUP. Mark my words, the next thing they'll conquer will be radical feminism. At the moment, there's nothing more undeniably female than being a terf. It'll be their next big thing to appropriate.

( femlez34 )
Yeah, I'd be shocked if there weren't TIMs on this site already larping as "terfs".


( butchplease )
Oh no, you've just unlocked a whole realm of horror to my mind.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: The trans lobby jumped the shark with sex-denialism

( hmimperialtortie )
Except that “living as the opposite” always meant men imposing themselves on women, whatever terminology they used. There’s no point in “living as a woman” for a man if he only does it in private. It’s all about making people accept his version of events.


( CeruleanPisces )
And you can’t validate your lesbian fetish without a lesbian there to help. I’m sure the anime girl body pillows just don’t cut it for these AGP’s.

( hmimperialtortie )
Absolutely.

There are no acceptable levels for this shit, no class of poor sweet HSTS who miraculously passed and were so meek and mild no woman ever clocked them. The concept of transsexual or transgender is rooted in misogyny whatever their reasons and it’s always a public display.

(bojackie )
I'm not optimistic about how this will all play out. Either way it goes I think women's freedoms will be diminished: if trans ideology prevails, then women who don't want to share bathroom or spa with a man or if a women doesn't want to say TWAW, she will be told to stay home. If trans ideology is shut down, it will likely be because of conservative backlash to return society to regressive gender roles. If anything, feminism will be BLAMED for confusing young people about what's for girls and what's for boys. The right wing will say this all started because women wanted to cut their hair short and wear pants. Then there will be a right wing campaign to put women back in their place.

( Mandy )
I agree. It was the sex denialism that drove me to become GC. Now I see potentially a more sinister agenda behind the a-gender; robbing women of their rights by allowing any man to declare himself a woman. However, I am wary of turning into a conspiracy theorist. I think there are a lot of chancers hitching their wagon to this horse. The real losers are women, children, and also the transpeople who really do just want to pee and get on with their lives.

I am also deeply, deeply alarmed by the skyrocketing numbers of trans children. It's beyond me how anyone can fail to see this as a symptom of something profoundly wrong with our society.

jvsmine & hmimperialtortie #transphobia ovarit.com

Re: Thinking about my time at "the gay homicide project" and trans murders

(jvsmine )
nahhh. TIMs are not actually terrified of being murdered in the streets because they're the ones pushing the lie that TERFs are causing "cis" men to beat them to death. They know they're not in danger. they like to pretend that they're afraid for the oppression points, faking panicked breathing and teary eyes so they look more feminine. there are literal guides teaching poor lil TIMs* how to look more afraid and intimidated.

They don't care about truth.


( hmimperialtortie )
Exactly. Most TIMs are more likely to be murderers than victims. They’re the safest demographic of all. They’re not black prostitutes in Brazil. It’s all lies.

Heads up the mods may zap your comment if you turn TIM into the diminutive name. It’s dehumanising, apparently.


( jvsmine )
jesus, what a joke. not even in all women's spaces can we be "mean" to poor wittle baby TIMs.

noted and changed.


( hmimperialtortie )
Yeah, the rules have to pander to the site hosts, if I understand correctly. 🙄

hmimperialtortie , SulphuricMirror & haruspex #transphobia #pratt ovarit.com

RE: "MTF Passing Tips"
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( hmimperialtortie )
You’re not fooling anyone, you perverted freak.

( SulphuricMirror )
Ew, he's wearing little girls underwear, and you know "valid" is code for "aroused". Pedo scum. Also, tighter clothes makes these men look like fridges stuffed into body con dresses, if anything looser clothes would be better, I would think. But that doesn't feed into the fetish. The fact that they wear tight women's clothes signals to people they come into contact with that: "this is a mentally unstable man who might freak out if I don't cater to his delusion, I better just grin through it and hope he leaves soon" and they think that means they pass. Idiots.


( haruspex )
I kind of looked through that TIM's reddit profile and he also boasts about being "small enough to wear girl's clothes." Definite pedo.


( SulphuricMirror )
I saw his pic, he's a slight/slender asian young man/teen boy, so yeah that makes sense, but he could also fit into age-appropriate clothes for his own sex. Yeah, it's clear he goes after the largest girls' sizes (like probably aimed at large girl children) just to feed his fetishes. So gross.

various TERFs #transphobia #sexist ovarit.com

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spoilerIf you are illustrating that misogyny is real and that hatred of females is real, I agree. If you think any of those cultures would treat a transitioned MtF TS better you are wrong. Either they would be treated as a female (stealth), or (if non passing), killed or ostracized.
But when you use the fact of sex-selective abortion as an explanation to claim trans women don't face misogyny.. it becomes inexplicable. Also, if/when brain scans and
genome scans become good enough to catch transsexuality in the womb, they'll be aborted with even greater vigor.

( oatmeal )
Well it would be impossible to find "proclivity towards mass porn use and sexual deviancy" in a brain scan on a fetus so he has nothing to worry about.


( XXathlete )
Nah, just abort all male fetuses except a chosen few for breeding. Bees know what they're doing.


( Researcher1536 )
👏 👏 👏


( Gould2022 )
Well said.

hmimperialtortie & remove_the_veil #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: trans extremists threaten not only the standing of the LGBTQ+ movement, but the hard-won gains of the anti-discrimination movement of the past 50 years

( hmimperialtortie )
That’s the point. They are trying to destroy equal rights, or any rights, for women (and gays who don’t want to service them).


( remove_the_veil )
They want women to be turned back into a slave class, once and for all.


( hmimperialtortie )
Yes, that’s it.

nopenottoday #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Is anyone else against "preferred pronouns"?

This movement is backed by a lot of powerful loons with crazy ideas about transcending the flesh and becoming genderless and sexless and other crazy shit. These people don't want to keep this shit to themselves, they want to manipulate humanity into joining in. Don't ask me why. I really don't know. It's illogical and bizarre beyond belief, but its true.

These people are rich and smart and they know that language influences reality to the point where you will see the world in an entirely different way based on the words you use. That's where preferred pronouns began. That's where this all began. The more you realize that everything in our modern world is methodically manipulated to make us act and think a certain way the more everything starts to make sense. Preferred pronouns contribute to this end goal. It's amazing how quickly society has degraded since implementing these preferred pronouns especially the woke cities here in America. People get very angry when someone refers to a man or a woman as their proper sex. It's powerful enough to make people even violently angry at those who don't comply.

My point is that it's powerful stuff and no one should ever make the mistake of thinking it's just words. It was never just words.

See the Ben Shapiro video where he gets threatened by that man because he called him a man. Everyone in the room was hamstering to justify the violence. It's really quite fascinating to watch. They really thought it was okay for that man to treat Ben that way because he called him a man.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

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( SulphuricMirror )
Of course it felt like an immense amount of power. You, a man, were committing a sex crime endorsed by the state for which you would never be punished, what more power could any male want than that?

( marshmallowmirror )
0% of congress are serial killers. Name 10 famous living serial killers. Serial killers are 100x more likely to suffer mental health issues. Why aren’t we taking better care of serial killers?? Why aren’t we letting them into positions of power so they can represent the needs of serial killers more appropriately??!? /sarcasm 😡

( llkit )
Want receipts for the poverty claim. Noting the absolute lack of giving a shit about others in poverty. Cis* ain't a monolith, lots of variation in 98% of the population.

I reject the term. Use it here to emphasise it's bullshit.


( jvsmine )
I don't care about poor trans people, I'll say it. They create their own problems, every single one of them. I've watched it happen. They enjoy being helpless. They've weaponized it. They love it.


( SparklingFem )
Reminds me of the TIM who had a GoFundMe to pay his rent and buy food for him and his child because he wouldn’t be able to work for awhile after his “bottom surgery”. Sorry, but if you can’t afford to keep a roof over your head and food on the table as the primary parent to a young child, perhaps you ought to hold off on unnecessary surgery until a time when it is more financially feasible. That kind of decision-making certainly won’t help get someone out of poverty.


( Haljurunna )
That begging for money online for an otherwise capable adult has become normalized for this "community" is beyond enraging.


( hmimperialtortie )
At least getting butchered bits would make sure he doesn’t father anyother children.

( hmimperialtortie )
Same. I don’t give a damn about any “trans” except the children being forced into it. The adults bring it upon themselves.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

(note by submitter: talking about the lyrics of Kim Petras song "Coconuts")

( Cookiemonster )
This is about his balls.


( Tabitha_Tuesday )
He had them removed at like 16. He's an AGP with limited hip movement due to the scar tissue.


( Cookiemonster )
Damn, still reads like a song about balls though. Maybe he's missing them? Who knows, disturbing all around


( fizzygiglet )
If you watch the song’s choreography, which I just watched as I was discussing it in another comment, it’s very clear that it’s about boobs. Half the dance moves involve him shimmying, groping his boobs, bouncing up and down, etc. as he nearly spills out his corset top ☹️ Lots of gratuitous close-ups too…


( XX_Power)
I just googled photos of him and ooof he's got a giant barrel chest which makes what are presumably silicone implants look like someone duct taped two oranges onto one of these big American refrigerators. Not attractive imo but i guess men only see "boobs" and like it.


( Owlchaser )
It's actually an APG anthem


( Lipsy )
The balls hypothesis is rebutted by "double D's" (lol @ scrotes thinking that's max big gazoongas size) and, especially, by "give 'em a squeeze".


( BlackCirce )
Double Ds = Ds = Deez nuts


( Lipsy )
lmao


( pakilez )
Isn’t he HSTS?!


( DebraKadabra )
He misses them lol.


( MissFeather )
Not AGP he’s a gay man. The song was written to appeal to the sexualized pop audience I doubt he wrote it himself.

ProxyMusic , YoureNotaClownfish & IrishTheFrenchie #conspiracy #transphobia ovarit.com

( ProxyMusic )
I don't think Semenya was ever deceived by the adults in Semenya's life when Semenya was growing up. Semenya was raised as a beloved, special male child with a difference of urogenital anatomy. Semenya only started claiming to be female after Semenya took up running in his mid teens and was scouted by Leonard Chuene and other officials at ASA. Members of ASA and the ANC came up with plan to enter Semenya into elite women's athletic competition as a way of sticking it to the IAAF and IOC after the battles over Oscar Pistorius, and as a way of getting back at white European colonialists and the countries of the "Global North" for apartheid. Lots of ANC members who became powerful in the SA government in the early 2000s had attended university and grad school in the US in the 80s and 90s - and they picked up on queer theory as they learned about, and helped to develop, such areas as critical theory and decolonization.

Semenya didn't get a birth certificate until April 2007, when Semenya as 16 and already had been identified by government officials as the country's potential "golden girl" runner. The BC saying "Female" was issued by officials of the same corrupt government that came up with the fraud that Semenys is female in the first place.

The head of Semenya's school told the press in 2009 that he never realized Semenya considered himself to be a girl until Semenya's final year. Semenya's first running coach referred to Semenya as he/him in an interview with the New Yorker in 2009.

I do believe that Margaret Niyonsaba might have been deceived about his sex as a child. But I believe the main reason would have been to prevent him from being forced into becoming a child soldier as young male children in Burundi customarily were during that country's long, bloody civil war. Niyonsaba was born at the start of the Burundian civil war and was already a teenager when it finally ended.

( YoureNotaClownfish )
Definitely. It is a very common disorder in the region and they know they are raising amazing future "female" athletes.

Caster has even said he has nothing in common with women and finds them tiring.

( IrishTheFrenchie )
I 100% agree. I think Caster was raised male, knew he was male from an early age, and so did everyone else.

Several Ovarit-members #kinkshaming #ableist ovarit.com

RE: Tavistock Gender Clinic Lead Psychologist Supports Ageplay, Furries

(littleowl12 )
What pisses me off is that there's a growing number of people that think furries are just neurodiverse. And most of it is wholesome! If you're creeped out you're a neurobigot!

No, sorry, there's just too much overlap between furries and all pedophilic fetishes. I have every reason to keep you away from my kids and away from me.


( Gould2022 )
I’m still 100 percent convinced most of this bullshit, is targeted around reducing or removing age of consent. Legalise pedophilia. God knows what happens after that legalised sexual slave contracts? My mind is not deranged enough to identify other crazy shit


( hmimperialtortie )
Yes. They want all barriers to raping whoever they target removed - women, children, or animals.


( Researcher1536 )
This is a pro-predator movement through and through, and "be kind" and "don't kink shame!" are opening the door for utter depravity and harm.


( Gould2022 )
Pro-predator movement great statement


( hmimperialtortie )
Completely. They don’t want rape to be even nominally a crime.

actualdyke , hmimperialtortie & nopenottoday #transphobia #pratt ovarit.com

(actualdyke)
"No cis man would ever transition for nefarious reasons!!"

I've heard this argument countless times and it always makes me want to tear my hair out. Firstly, they don't even have to transition anymore - self-ID makes it so that all they have to do is say they are a woman and they can get into any intimate female space they want. But even if that weren't the case - do you really believe that a man wouldnt undergo transition just to have access to vulnerable women? Men go through years of med school to become gynecologists/doctors and abuse women. Men go through the entire process of becoming teachers and professors to be in positions of power over women and girls. They become fucking PRIESTS just to abuse children for christ's sakes. If a man wants to abuse women and girls, there is pretty much no means he will not go to in order to justify that end, certainly not a couple E shots and a wig and name change.

TL;DR libfems need to stop being wilfully ignorant and pretending that there is ANYTHING that men would not do in order to pursue their nefarious motives.

(hmimperialtortie )
There are no not-nefarious reasons for men to “transition”. They may claim to be poor sad HSTS on occasion but the whole concept of a man being able to become a woman - or even worse, “was always a woman” - is nefarious.

(nopenottoday )
They all know this argument is just a deflection from the real concern and it's that there's no difference between a guy pretending to be a woman and... a guy pretending to be a woman. They are ALL pretending to be women to access women's spaces. Second most important point, none of this is our fucking problem and we don't have to sit around and suffer assaults and boundary violations while we figure out which ones are "true trans." They are ALL sexual predators because they are men trying to force themselves in women's spaces. That's the uncomfortable truth.

@AteMoth & SulphuricMirror #transphobia #sexist ovarit.com

(@AteMoth)
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spoilerI have seen a doctor on here wearing his 'T_rf repellent' badge apparently on his NHS lanyard. A clear signal that women requiring single sex spaces will not receive humane treatment. Many others seem to echo hose views.

(SulphuricMirror)
Males really shouldn't be allowed to practise medicine. They aren't good enough for it in so many ways.

Chronicity #transphobia ovarit.com

Dysphoria = cognitive dissonance

The title says it all. Dysphoria is the sensation that occurs when someone who is delusional about their membership in the opposite sex class is reminded that they know the truth about themselves.

It manifests as psychological pain because holding two conflicting thoughts in one’s head simultaneously causes extreme friction. Delusional belief in oneself cannot coexist comfortably with knowledge of one’s delusion.

There is an active thread in r/honesttransgender about how terrifyingly awful TERFs are. So much so, apparently, that some TIMs would rather go live in countries where the incidence of trans murder is sky high than live in a place like the UK, where women are semi-free to nonviolently express their concerns about space-invading men. Never mind the fact the UK has not seen a trans homicide in over 3 years; I guess murder isn’t a big deal anymore. TERF central is located in the UK and that’s enough to make it a less hospital than a place where transphobic violence is actually epidemic.

Riiight.

TERFs strike the fear in the hearts of TIP because our arguments induce cognitive dissonance in a way that true bigoted viewpoints do not. They are based in truth, logic, and common sense, and they are historically informed. The trans community knows that we are right; after all, they believe what we do. And we can be sure of that precisely because, as they admit, our opinions cause them agonizing pain. The proof is in the pain.

TRAs have to threaten us with violence to make us fearful. Their words do not cause us the pain of cognitive dissonance, so the next best thing is death and rape threats.

operaghost #transphobia ovarit.com

It couldn't POSSIBLY be because they're prancing around in a delusion in public. Why on earth would they get promoted if they're spending all their workplace hours worrying about how to transition at work and convince their coworkers to participate in a delusion? Why should they expect not to be made fun of (what they're probably perceiving as catcalling) when they objectively are behaving in a baffling manner?

This thread is full of people's self-made problems. One transman was complaining about how they have it even worse than "cis women" in terms of healthcare, because their body is on hormones and a lot of gynecologists won't even see transmen and how awful it is to sit in the waiting room of a women's health center because they look like a man, and how insurance is harder because their legal documents say M not F, so claims for women's health care get denied, and so on and on and on.

And I'm just like... so? This is a problem you created yourself. You started taking testosterone and didn't think through the long term consequences of how you might feel in various social occasions. You went through a whole legal process to change your legal sex marker with no care for how it might affect our social systems. You CHOSE this. Every step of the way. And you want society to rearrange itself around you? How entitled.

mathlover & BlackCirce #transphobia ovarit.com

( mathlover )
Nearly all the men who say they are "women" are heterosexual men who get sexual gratification from seeing themselves, and forcing others to see them, as women. It's called autogynephilia. They have no dysphoria - only frustration, and ultimately rage, if they can't get off sexually the way they want, by larping as women. The reason they "trans" - the only reason - is sexual gratification. They still very much sexually desire women and, as straight men, center sex around their penises. So no, they don't ever want to get rid of their penises.

( BlackCirce )
Penis is what males have sex with. Sex is what males live for. Penis is what makes transvestism / autogynephilia enjoyable for males. No significant portion of males are ever going to voluntarily have their penis surgically or even chemically rendered useless. Only a small portion of trans identified males are so pornsick and mentally ill that they have bottom surgery. Men who want to have sex with trans males generally want them to have a penis as well. Most transwo men have their penises and don’t want to have them removed because that would be the end of their sex lives.

GoodGoneGirl #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Do you think TIMs are knowingly misogynistic?

I think most TIMs are AGP, not victims of patriarchy. It’s just a fetish to them. My goal is not for them to be respected, my goal is for them to fuck the fuck off. TIMs are forcing the people around them to take part in their fetish and there’s nothing respectable about that. They’ve been socialized to believe that they can get what they want, when they want, while women been socialized to put men’s needs first. It’s a shitty combination that never fails to benefit men, however they identify. I would love for women to care as little about TIM’s feelings as they do about ours.

For the record, if you’d asked me this question six months ago, I would have been uncomfortable with taking such a “strong” position. But I had some doubts when women here expressed views like “all TIMs are perverts” so I went to TIM subs to find out for myself. Can confirm, even the little 13-year-old TIMs are that way because of porn. I’d at least have some sympathy for the kids if they weren’t such misogynist little creeps.

SulphuricMirror #sexist ovarit.com

Men should be segregated into special ares where they can't expose us and children to their disgusting behaviour. I don't see why normal people (women and children) should have to co-mingle with men who are potentially just masturbating any goddamn place. If they are gonna act like chimps, then maybe they belong in zoos or nature reserves. Just saying.

Galko #transphobia ovarit.com

Radical feminists are the new lesbians. Basically, men will always want what they can't have. Now they figured out a way to demand they be accepted into lesbian spaces, guitling libfems into sleeping with them, and calling themselves lesbian. So, lesbians conquered. Now where's the next group of women saying, "No," that would be Radfems. We're saying no very loudly, so it's fueling their fetishes to conquer us as well. So, they're trying this shit, because it's no different than porn with "lesbians" that welcome in the pizza delivery guy.

Various TERFs #transphobia #sexist ovarit.com

RE: I wanted a female therapist. I got matched with a TiM.

( NewMa )
I just do not trust a TiM , especially on telehealth, to not be beating it to the sound of my tears. I just ... don't.

You didn't get to be a TiM by being a healthy person.


( XX_Power )
I'll be straight, i wouldn't even trust an AGP TIM to do my laundry. Putting one in charge of traumatized women's health is insanity. This is literally a man who sexually gets off by pretending that he's a woman and fetishizes things like periods, but they want to trust this crossdresser with healing the trauma of raped women?


( proudcatlady )
I don’t trust a male therapist period. I’m shocked how many ladies on here have said they have had or do have male therapists. I would assume 100% he’s in it for jerkoff material. Also, empathy is important for therapists to have for their clients…? Men barely empathize with each other and basically can’t with us


( EternaEspiral )
I had a male therapist for a while, ended up say thing I "could be a normal woman" aka date men. So all the time I saw him he was just thinking that, I talked to him about my love life, discrimination... He never took me seriously! I just never went back after that.


( hmimperialtortie )
Or even simply a decent one.

IrishTheFrenchie #crackpot #conspiracy #pratt #transphobia ovarit.com

I don't trust anything about reality TV.

I'm actually in a very, very tiny minority. Part of me believes "Jazz" is and always has been a FEMALE, and that the whole "trans" thing was devised in conjunction with Big Pharma/AGP billionaires to push the "Kids are trans too" and "We're born this way" narrative.

We literally have no proof, and never will, that Jazz was ever a male.

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