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Only_Women_Are_Women & Calico #dunning-kruger #moonbat #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: What lessons have you learned from the transgender craze?

(Only_Women_Are_Women)

people can be dumber than you'd think physically possible

THIS! "Sex is a spectrum" !?!?!?!

"There's no way to tell men and women apart"???

"Some people are born in the opposite sex body" !?!?!?!

And that's coming out of the mouths of people in leadership and educational positions. That's not 4th graders on the playground. That's people with M.D. after their names.

(Calico)
That porn is irredeemably harmful, and this is still true even if every performer was a consenting adult with no trauma or poverty pushing them into it (which will never be the case in reality).

That society is not only NOT past outdated gender roles, we’re clinging onto them harder than we have in decades. Transgenderism is what you get when you take the assumption that gender stereotypes are real to its logical extreme.

That female separatism to at least some degree is necessary for women to be able to thrive. Sex-segregated spaces are mandatory. Men are not only dangerous, they vastly decrease our quality of life on even a mundane level. They are so astoundingly selfish and entitled even a deeply cynical person like myself finds it hard to believe sometimes. They really do believe that women exist to serve them and have no reason to exist otherwise. They really do believe that their opinions are objective facts and their own narrow perspective, no matter how delusional, is reality. And women have to fall in line because we have no right to personal autonomy.

[Deleted] #crackpot #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

"Silicone Angel". Every time I think they can't come up with worse stripper names or delude themselves further... "I'll have tits when I'm dead" We don't fucking care, honey. We're secure enough with our bodies.

the things that they care about, and the things that they think we care about...it's insane.

and honestly, the way they go on about real women shows how profoundly not at peace they are. Being a woman, to them, is a fetish. Being a female human, to us, is our existence coupled with all the violation that trying to exist alongside males deranged by the last 10k years of animal herding has draped and smeared all over us.

One of my pet theories is domestication of animals dumbed down the human race because males began literally imitating the behaviors of lower order animals and bringing them into human relations. They began to act like the ungulates they herded (I believe it was the psychopathically cruel practices of culling, castrating etc that created toxic masculinity). Traumatizing infants into mental illness in early childhood has led to the almost certain doom of our species. Forcing children to witness cruelty to animals on a regular basis in animal husbandry doesn't help either. Also there is a documented period of brain shrinkage in humans over the last 10k years that coincides with the advent of animal husbandry and the cessation of gatherer/hunter cultures.

Also didn't help in terms of the land ownership required to own herds which meant the most psychopathic and dishonest males climbed to the top of society. I'm sure it was all probably inevitable due to human population explosion, but it truly has been hell on earth for females. The more I research the more I'm convinced that culture prior to animal herding cults was matrilineal, with some remnant cultures like the Basques, the Picts, and the Mosuo of Lugu Lake. Animal herding cults have made humanity irredeemably stupid and and with the proliferation of islam it's about to get a whole lot worse.

Various TERFs #crackpot #transphobia ovarit.com

(Cat)
Some thoughts on TIFs

I am reminded of the main character of the novel The Bluest Eye, who grew up in a deeply racist society and internalized racist ideas. She constantly prays for even just one blue eye, to prove her whiteness. After suffering from a series of sexual abuses, she eventually becomes delusional and believes she has attained blue eyes. The motivations are to escape the racism by identifying into the privileged group.

There are parallels to a lot of stories from detransitioned TIFs. Many of them experienced the trauma of sexual assault. The TRA movement feeds into the delusion, instead of advocating for genuine help such as therapy for their trauma. Again, the motivations are to escape the sexism by identifying into the privileged group.

(elleelle)
That fucking book, man. So horrifying and so beautiful. Haunting.

It's crazy how there are parallels between race and trans but they aren't those that libfems and TRAs point out.

(hellamomzilla)
I try to be calm and reasonable when I think about TIFs, for just the reasons you've outlined.

But then there's Strangio and I want to punch that asshat right in the mouth.

(Chronicity)
This is a spot on comparison and it gives me chills to think about it.

In essence, these are delusional beliefs that maladaptively keep women from confronting—and coming to terms with—the pain within.

Various TERFs #crackpot #dunning-kruger #racist #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

(RisingUp)
My half-baked theory is that it's because Japanese people are better at shame than we are. There's a whole thing about shame-based vs guilt-based cultures though it's probably very outdated and simplistic. It does seem to me that a lot of TIMs and the more obnoxious variety of TIFs have a pathological absence of shame. Or given the relationship with narcissism, maybe they in fact have a lot of shame which they are incapable of handling so they dissociate into their trans personas.

(edieandthea)
I think there’s a racism element to it, like it tends to be white weebs who think anime is a factual representation of Asian women: big boobs and doe eyes, at once hypersexual, childlike, and submissive. Other racial minorities in the west probably at least have an idea “the people of my race on TV don’t necessarily act like me so this is probably not a true reflection of how Asian women are” as pornsick white guys think this is a realistic transition goal.

(z6iiab)
maybe because the majority of characters - if not all - in hentai and anime ARE white? makes it easier for lonely losers to indentify with and create an escapist fantasy.

They're not. It is usually made explicit when a character is supposed to be white because the character will have a weird mix of caucasian stereotypes, possibly speak Japanese with an accent, and everyone will acknowledge that this is a foreigner. White weebs know anime isn't white, that's why they are known for behaving in fetishistic ways towards asian women.

have you watched hentai? or even anime in general. they are white. historically, they all been EXTREMELY white passing. so no. get that discussion elsewhere, the point here was figuring out why so many white people get influenced by hentai in such an awful way, not if the cleary white passing characters are supposed to be white people or not.

levitation #crackpot #dunning-kruger #racist #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

Why do anime and hentai turn so many white people trans?

Anime is popular with all races. It's a worldwide phenomenon at this point. So why the fuck are the overwhelming majority of weebs that try to literally become underage anime characters of the opposite sex the white ones?? No other demographic allows hentai to warp their brains to this extent.

It's seriously ridiculous. Almost every white TIM wears thigh highs and cat ears and talks about literally being a teenage anime girl. A majority of white TIFs had a yaoi phase that never ended, and fetishize kpop boys like they're their favorite anime characters.

I'm white so this might be just my experience, but I've noticed that a majority of trans people with anime obsessions and a hentai addiction are white. Of course any person who watches a lot of hentai is highly likely to be a perverted weirdo, but it's not like hikikomori Japanese men are turning TIM at such high rates or citing the cat boy from Re:Zero as their transition goals. Am I going crazy or is this as weird as I think it is?

I think it's the fact that white-people-culture is so tremendously individualistic and self-focussed. They're looking at content that's often created for escapism. People who are well-integrated into their communities and families know how to balance the occasional escapist fantasy with the demands of living within the social order. Western weebs who spend all their time in front of a screen, immersing themselves in escapist and sexual content to the point of obsession, well, not so much.

That makes a lot of sense. I've also noticed that not many socially well-adjusted people transition, except in cases of group contagion with teenage girls.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: If your body is unsalvageable and gets clocked instantly, isn't HRT kinda like self harm? : honesttransgender

(bye_kevin)
If I remember correctly even feminine HSTS used to be denied medical transition back when gatekeeping existed if they had no chance of passing. Medical transition was used as a type of treatment for gender dysphoria but it's a treatment that definitely can not work if the person is unable to move in society being perceived as a real woman. Now medical transition is all about living your authentic self or some bullshit and even sentient brick houses like Hannah Mouncey are allowed medical transition.

(vulvapeople)
Current-day TRAs decry that old policy claiming it was policing TIMs for being "ugly". Meanwhile, trans orgs' own data show that non-passing TIMs have the worst outcomes of all transitioners. TRAs' "solution" is to force everyone to play along. You can't control 100 percent of the people 100 percent of the time, and even nice people will eventually let it slip that they know TIMs are men.

(OneStarWolf)

I bet you he doesn’t pass as well as he thinks he does. They almost never do, especially irl.

Yeah, there's a difference between "I can see this person wants to be a woman, so I should use female pronouns" and "this is a woman". Sorry dudes, go test yourself in a 3rd world country or deeply rural area. Then come back and tell us how much you actually pass 🙄

(BlackMoonLilith)
I know one TIM who went on HRT and it softened some of his features, but he was still undeniably male and got clocked every time. It's been 12 years post-HRT and the pandemic only further shows how male he is when he wears his mask because all you can see are his deep-set eyes, brow ridge, and super hairy male eyebrows.

Various TERFs #conspiracy #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: People in this comments section aren't holding back

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(shewolfoffrance)

The individuals in the screenshot are in the Chinese Women's 400m Relay Team.

China used underage gymnasts in the 2008 Olympics. They will absolutely use TiMs in the next one. I think the Olympics could be a mass-peaking event.

(Boudicaea)
I feel terrible for all the female Olympians who are about to have so many years of dreams and hard work completely destroyed for no good reason. And Russia will do this too if they are allowed to compete-- not sure if they are back in after their last scandal.

(IrishTheFrenchie)

Why even bother using any women

They won't. I remember reading that there was a "professional" Quiddich league and they require a certain number of male and female players on each team. The Italian team replaced all their women with trannies and beat the hell out of everyone. It was so bad even a cheating transwoman on another team said it wasn't fair. 🤣🤣🤣

But seriously. Men will replace us everywhere if we don't stop this.

(littleowl12)
A friend of mine who I love dearly actually BELIEVED the CCP's statement that these were all natural, "cis" women. They even posted a "stupid terfs mistaking butch women for men" joke. Here's the thing- if they are "cis" women, they are "cis" women in the way the East German swim team was. As in, they're taking so much T they look unrecognizable as women and are cheating. These guys look like dudes to me. And even if they weren't, they're so fucking altered that all other women will have to do major damage to their bodies just to have a hope in hell of winning.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

(VeggieAnnie)
This movement is strangely oversexed and anti-sex. It is anti-human sexuality: saying gays & lesbians have "genital fetishes"; claiming people are not sexually attracted to any particular type of sexed body; loads and loads of teenagers who make identity decisions (and will fight you to the death about them) without having even kissed another human; an obsession with asexuals and non-binaries (people who claim not to be sexed?). It's like...they are obsessed with sex but hate human sexual reality at the same time. It's bizarre.

(hmimperialtortie)

They're against people having sex with not-them. Ever noticed how every anti-sex dude is someone nobody wants to fuck?

Incel to transcel, less a pipeline than a half-millimetre shuffle.

I wish all the “trans” would fuck off and fuck or not fuck each other.

(XXrights)
They talk about sex, but they never have it. Nobody wants to have sex with them, and they don't enjoy the sex they have with each other.

(elscat)
Literally no-one with eyes and self-respect go near these people. Pretty much every survey/study on dating shows transwomen are excluded from their dating pool. They won’t even fuck each other. Hence the constant posts about ‘discrimination’.

Various TERFs #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Top post on r/honesttransgender is MTF observing that self absorbed MTFs ruin lesbian spaces & create more terfs

(SCP353)

Rant over. Us trans women belong in these spaces, but we need to be respectful and mindful of what we’re doing and saying.

No you don’t. Imagine thinking you’re “one of the good transbians” just because you don’t screech at lesbian women to take your girldick. You still do not belong in lesbian spaces, male.

(MeNsTrUaToR27)
THERES FUCKING TRANS MEN ON THERE TOO!! why the HELL would they need to be there aren't they MEN?!?!? Like just fess up and admit that you want every female space to just be a trans space.

(jelliknight)
That whole post is one massive Poe's Law. From the guy who cant understand why non-binary females and TIFs are even in lesbian spaces, to the guy saying that the TIMs are adding "fuel to the TERF fire" because they behave exactly as we say they do.

(AlltheRoadrunning)
The absolute audacity of a TiM to ask why a biological woman would be in a lesbian space. I like the comment pointing out how TiMs used to still consider themselves gay men, and it only changed when people like Bruce Jenner started announcing themselves as trans and not fitting in with the existing LGBT groups. That also coincided with all the male invasion of female spaces. What a coincidence.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

(kalina)
I've recently seen a wave of GC women in my twitter bubble start to ease their positions slightly, praise 'ally' TIMs and claim it's perfectly ok for a passing TIM to use the women's bathroom. I honestly don't know what's going on. I don't care if a TIM has a full beard & broad chest or if he looks mostly female, it's still a man and I don't want a man in my bathroom and I don't want another GC woman to claim it's ok.

(jelliknight)
The thing is, in practice if a TIM did pass, he could just use the womens room. The RULE needs to say "no men" so that if he's creepy he can be kicked out, and so non-passing ones get stopped at the door, but in reality no one is suggesting DNA checks to get in. The hypothetical passing TIM can just skate in under the radar as long as he's not acting weird. But in reality TIMs almost never pass anyway.

(NewMa)
In person, they pass rarely. On the internet it gets MUCH harder to tell because camera angles and flattering clothing can hide a lot about the would-be-female form. It's usually their height, the way they walk (they either try to swing their hips too much, which is a tell, or they CLOMP CLOMP CLOMP like Clydesdales or Door #3 they scuff their feet as they walk), the stupid falsetto they all have in person. Thin, reedy fake-as-fuck voices.

(Kevina)
Right, but we know they're delusional to begin with, and they spend hours and hours on the internet with people telling them how gorgeous they are and much they "pass" and how any lesbian would be so lucky to date them. So of course then they feel empowered to trot their way into women's spaces, because they think they pass.

(vulvapeople)
A lot of non-passing TIMs seem to think they pass, so it's a stupid standard anyway.

Various TERFs #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

(NotCis)
An experiment proving that pronouns are Rohypnol

This is an excellent piece. I have thought a lot about how obfuscating male criminals' sex could distort statistics, but I have thought less about how it distorts public opinion in the news in this way. I'm more convinced than ever that we need to hold our ground on the pronouns issue.

(Laila_Salem)

I have read parts of it aloud, switching the reported sex (female) of this person to the actual sex (male) and restoring Watkins' original name, and it is remarkable what effect the different readings have on my feelings about him. Try it yourself, and compare

I've been doing this, using the correct prounouns when reading any thing now, even a tweet. This made me understand the amount of gaslighting we are expected to accept. Also how media is a key factor in this attack on girls and women's rights.

(emptiedriver)
I've been doing this so long.. But it is a real problem. I get very frustrated in those situations where I simply can't figure out what has actually happened - when they use female pronouns but you can't help wondering if they are talking about a male, and sometimes even when there are pictures they're too blurry or far away or just borderline and you start to feel bad that you might be questioning whether a woman is a man just because she's sort of funny looking and did something criminal... Ugh. I just wish the news would stop being deceitful.

(Veneficca)
Excellent line about "women being saddled with a reputation for violence men have earned for themselves." That's one of the biggest reasons so many men love this ideology. This is DARVO's best friend.

Various TERFs #sexist #wingnut ovarit.com

RE: this is how I became a radfem 🤓

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(Yemaya)
I had radical feminism beliefs when I was like 15/16 without knowing what radical feminism was. Like I didn't buy that women being half naked was empowering but kept hearing how it was a woman's choice lol. Mainstream liberal "feminism" is so heavily pushed it's easy feel like you are wrong especially if you are young.

(dixiechick547)
I’m middle aged and didn’t know I was a radfem. I thought the beliefs I had was feminism. I was confused by what I call slut walk feminism and wondered what on earth had happened. Was so grateful to find that real feminism still existed.

(HessaHein)
That and the constant defence of abuse in immigrant communities being defended with cultural relativism and liberals who are more concerned about a "racist" image than the safety of women and girls.

(LadyGlum)
I had no idea there were different feminist groups and just called myself a "feminist". I was growing increasingly uncomfortable with woke feminism which seemed to do a lot of virtue signalling and not really do anything to actually liberate women. As soon as I discovered radical feminism I realized this fit exactly what I'd believed all along. I had no idea what the basic beliefs of radical feminism were, I'd just thought about various topics and come to the same conclusions.

Various TERFs #crackpot #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: I've discovered a new goldmine: searching /r/asklesbians for the word "trans"

(Bazzaar)

have you all seen his post history? of course he's AGP😔

If they're men they're always AGP deep down. The women transitioned are usually sexual assault victims,mentally ill and are trying to opt out of sex based discrimination.

(XXrights)
I think some of the guys are just feminine gay/bi men with internalized homophobia. But of the ones that like women, yeah, definitely AGP.

(malloww)
The lack of replies is incredibly telling, but not of the bigotry they're imagining. I read that sub sometimes and there is no shortage of libfems that post there. No, the reason they're actually not getting any replies is because even the libfems don't know how to give sex tips to a man with a neovagina because they don't have sex with men with neovaginas. Or men with dicks. Or... Men. You can give transbians lip service about how valid they are all day long, but when it comes right down to it, even the libfems aren't fucking these guys, and don't want to think about or discuss it.

(GenderHeretic)
There are so many posts on these subs detailing their "lesbian" sexual experiences, but only one sex partner ever seems to be a trans lesbian. 🤔 If trans women are women, I would fully expect r/asklesbians, r/actuallesbians, etc. to have more posts talking about the girly fun slumber party tee hee lesbian experiences of playing with each others' balls.

Various TERFs #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: A nice illustration of physiologic and interpersonal AGP, misogyny, and libfem idiocy.

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(Ithri)

Enjoy the door holding and catcalls. That's what feminism is based on, for you to be you.>

they're rewriting feminism history under our own eyes

(AppleJuiceEnthusiast)
"Imma get a pussy, sum tiddies, hips, an ass..."

At the end of the day, this is how men see us. To them we're just a walking set of holes and fleshy body parts. "Transwomen" are no different to normal men.

(AppleJuiceEnthusiast)

And no girl, feeling happy about getting catcalled isn't weird at all. And if it is, we're both weird then. I'm honestly looking forward to getting catcalled one day as it would just validate me that much more. Even if it is pretty annoying XD.

I want to leave this planet

(HessaHein)
I had to step away from the computer.

These men see the worst parts of womanhood as sexually arousing and fun. There's no getting to them.

(spinstah)
I'm at the point where I don't believe any of those commenters are actually women. When I read, "As a cis woman, ...." I see "As a TIM who is even more smugly delusional than OP, ..."

Various TERFs #quack #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Cochrane review of evidence for hormonal transition ... no evidence exists.

(RisingUp)
Recapping some developments from the last few months:

No evidence of benefits from cross-sex hormones (Cochrane)
No evidence of benefits from puberty blockers (NICE)
No evidence of benefits from transgender surgeries (American Journal of Psychiatry, not a meta-analysis but that study that used dodgy analysis to find some benefits and then was forced to recant.)
Why are governments/health plans paying for ANY of this again?

(OneStarWolf)
Men’s feelings >>>>>

We all know that if gender dysphoria only ever affected women that not a single surgery would have ever been covered.

(fireworks)
I'm a layman and even I can tell "transgender studies" are BS. I read every study that is thown to me by a TRA during an argument, and there is NEVER any concrete evidence or result from those so-called research. It's very refreshing to see an organization like this is putting out no-bullshit fact-based review of the gendercult.

calming-tea & XX_Power #dunning-kruger #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

(calming-tea)
"You are not attracted to someone's DNA" - but you kind of are, actually

DNA largely determines how people look. Personality is even partially genetically determined! One could make an argument that if you have injuries resulting from specific attitudes, those were influenced by genetics (e.g. high risk taking). The idea that genes are something that is just there is another dumb transhumanist take. Sorry TRAs, you are "attracted to someone's genes" because you cannot unlink genotype and phenotype.

(XX_Power)

I'd like to see a good feminist takedown of transhumanism.

Not the eloquent refute you asked for but we are "still only" at the level where we can give medication and cut and sew back together. Nothing of that makes us transcend humanity, as much as it doesn't transform a man into a woman. We give them pills so they develop gynecomastia which is a condition only men can have, and this is supposed to mimic female breasts - which is insulting on so many levels but also just ends up making them look grotesque in combination with their male chest and wide shoulders. Once the treatment stops they develop completely back to a normal man. We can give them a hole in their abdomen by reshaping the penis, which is supposed to be a "vagina" but the only thing it has in common with a vagina is that it is "fuckable". By men.

Every cell in their body has XY chromosomes. If future scientists were to find their bones they'd immediately recognize them as men. Hell, even with gruesome beauty surgeries including shaving the chin bone, only a tiny amount passes to men and virtually zero pass to women.

It's all so superficial, only focused on looks. We are giving little boys horrible drugs so they can be pretty (the girls too but to the trans they're really an afterthought).

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Transsexualism is the only group of the LGBT that needs a medical diagnosis and life long medical treatment

(pennygadget)

They want to be medicated without the diagnosis.

Yeah. Thats the most baffling and frustrating part. They don't want dysphoria or being trans to be considered a mental illness, but then they claim they need a lifetime of expensive medications/surgeries and the whole world to play make-believe with them or else they'll commit suicide! You cannot claim to have a condition that makes you 41% more likely to kill yourself while also saying "its totally not a mental illness". Homosexuality was removed from the DSM list of mental illnesses because its not a pathology. Homosexuals don't need expensive medications and elaborate LARPs in order to transition from straight to gay. The fact that gays & lesbians are lumped in with trans people is both inaccurate and insulting

(eyeswideopen)
Trangenderism is always about a lie, whether by the individual about themselves or by TRAs in trying to force other people to validate the false reality/fetish that transgender people are a different sex. That, more than anything else, is why I think the cult will eventually fail. It's based on a lie. And a "reality" constructed on lies is inherently unstable.

(PattyBouvier)
That’s the elephant in the room. They also campaign to get it removed as a medical condition, while at the same time campaigning to have immediate and free medical treatment for it?? It’s so nonsensical

Various TERFs #moonbat #sexist ovarit.com

RE: "If your feminism doesn't include men, it's not real feminism!!"

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Libfems are the "All Lives Matter" sect of feminism and that's the best description I have.

(sanity867)
Sometimes I feel like these women are traitors. I feel bad because I know they're probably misguided, but how can you be so eager to please men at the expense of women?

(Aeschleah)
Because how will they get that fuckboy to marry them if they keep harping on about ridiculous notions such as equality, women only spaces, and misogyny? Much better to kid themselves that porn keeps men from committing sexual violence, that sex work is in fact empowering women, and that white man in a wig who will threaten rape and murder if she uses the wrong pronouns IS a woman, and she has cis privilege and should apologise for it profusely. Sounds exhausting.

(anushka)
female socialization is so difficult to rebel against. we're trained to please men everywhere and even in a women's movement it's difficult for many to unlearn what they were wired to do as young girls. a lot of it is hilarious primarily because women's problems range from outright violence to dehumanizing conditioning and men's problems are "society won't let me paint my nails this is so sad"

(WatcherattheGates)
They are indeed traitors to their sex.

(yikesforever)
It just kinda scares me that they haven't really thought about it, like how does it make any sense at all to include males in feminism? What do they think feminism is exactly?

Various TERFs #moonbat #pratt #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Richard Dawkins asks whats the difference between transgender and transracial (and kicks open a hornets nest!)

(suupersami)
This reply: "I cannot believe you are normalizing this debate. Dolezal had all the access to white privilege and then occupied space that wasn’t hers to occupy. You’re wrong on this one."

Some TRA's are so close to getting it that it's painful. Swap white for male, and then you've got it.

(meesh2020k)
I cant believe this poster was not being sarcastic and was dead serious. Again, what's the difference? I dont see a single difference at all and this poster somehow managed to summarize exactly why...and is still clueless. Someone in another thread asked if TRA are really as stupid as they come across. I'm convinced they really are.

(MeNsTrUaToR27)
To the left, maleness cancels whiteness, but femaleness doesn't. That's why we get points deducted for being white, while white men can continue to debate trans rights and women's rights without criticism.

(operaghost)

They know racism is real but don't acknowledge sexism as real.

Its not that they don't think sexism is real, it's that they want to be the victim of it. There's something about needing victim status or oppression points that the trans community really seems driven by.

(BluecatSarah)

For some strange, unknowable reason, I'm not seeing any TRAs tell Dawkins to choke on their girl dick

It’s almost as if TRAs can tell what sex he is.

Various TERFs #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

(Chronicity)
FTMs can see but are still blind

https://www.reddit.com/r/honesttransgender/comments/mnkgha/dont_say_trans_community_if_youre_just_talking/

I will never not be intrigued when I see FTMs complaining about being ignored in the trans community. It’s like getting a glimpse into bizarro world. How can they be so close but so far from the truth at the same time? I feel like screaming: YOU ARE BEING IGNORED BECAUSE YOU ARE A WOMAN IN A MISOGYNISTIC SOCIETY. YOUR IDENTITY CANNOT PROTECT YOU FROM THIS HARSH REALITY.

(DisastrousSundae)
Imagine transitioning so you become the oppressor but not even getting any of the benefits 😭 These women may have bought the biggest scam in history

(salty-tomorrow)

TL/DR: Trans women fought for your rights, and we deserve respect. I feel like the entire community simultaneously depends upon and resents binary trans women. As a mother, I know what even the best-intentioned subjugation by one's own family feels like.

This guy though lmao. Testerical men being testerical. Can never let women’s problems be addressed without pointing out how men have it bad too. OP came back so hard and wasn't having any of it tho, lmao.

(hufflepuff-poet)
That's such a male sentiment. No one other group says "we fought for your rights, and because of that you owe us 'respect'. TIMs show their maleness everytime they speak.

(yikesforever)
This is truly bizarre. Kinda sad, kinda funny. Sad because as these females are playing pretend that they are not women, they have lost the word - misogyny - to describe what is happening. Can't even call out male behaviour for what it is. Also loling at "binary trans women" as opposed to a what? A non-binary one or something? hells.

Various TERFs #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: I am tired. Can we talk about male violence without trans issues injecting themselves into the discussion?

(WatcherattheGates)
Men love to slither in, especially where they are not wanted.

(calming-tea)

There was a vigil for Sarah Everard in my town. The sign at the top of the memorial? "Protect trans women."

From what? Murdered women? Fuck you.

HOLY. FUCK.

Do you have a picture? I want to start collecting this type of thing. (Idk if there is a way to share it without being traceable to you. I think there should be more articles, even if just in feminist news outlets, about this centring of dicks that is nauseating)

(hmimperialtortie)
“Definition” in this case means “lies”. They are not women. They have no business having anything to do with women. They are the rapists and murderers, just as are the men who aren’t transvestites.

(alicetwilight)
Everything must be about the TIMs!! They´re huge narcissists and can´t stand mere "cis women" getting all the attention!!! And they get all the help from their handmaidens who are so worried about them because they are the most vulnerable women in the world! Protect the trans UWU! /s

I hope this will peak more women. Now we literally can´t even talk about feminicides without the trans wanting the spotlight.

(ciorafinska)
I'm fed up of seeing libfems call out male violence and criticize the phrase "not all men" while also attacking ~TERFs~ for not wanting males in women's spaces. It's literally just "not all males" and I don't understand how they just won't fucking see it.

Various TERFs #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Woman on tiktok being harassed by TRAs for not using inclusive language when talking about the medical needs of women

(Coffeefiend)
Apparently “biologically female” is a dog whistle lmao. If you don’t accept shriveled dick as “female” you’re a horrible transphobic bigoted monster. The gaslighting is real. They are trying to shut down valuable conversations about women’s health because it’s not centering their “girl dicks” and frankenholes. Narcissistic pieces of shit.

(pennygadget)

If they chant TWAW every day, doesn't that mean they want to be included in the very real and distinct class of WOMEN? Why would they want that word to be a taboo and at the same time want to claim it? It's like they only want TIMs to be called women, not biological women. AFAB my ass.

That's exactly it. They want TIMs to colonize "woman"

(yikesforever)
I associate the trans flag with lying, gaslighting, manipulation, violence, harassment, cruelty, abuse, misogyny, the list goes on. Because that's what seems to always accompany it.

(orquidia)
I'm so angry about this. Nothing will ever be enough. Women continue to bend over backward to accommodate TRAs to no avail. When will they be satisfied? When women/female ONLY means transwomen? Are we non-men? WTF.. they are so insecure and petty.

(alicetwilight)
Please, women of the world, wake up and realize the TRAs won´t let you alone until you totally submit to their demands!!! "Inclusive" language only dehumanizes women!!

(meranii)

Why don’t they get that every time they behave like this, they peak another one?

It's because they're men and they don't give a shit about women. Never have.

LadyGlum #conspiracy #crackpot #transphobia ovarit.com

yes i know, there's super rare cases where a woman can have other chromosomes

Female is more accurate and inclusive of actual women who don't have XX chromosomes. They aren't as common as TRAs would have you think (and are rarely ever trans) but intersex women are getting called men often enough by TRAs that I don't think we need to start on it too. Intersex women are made to feel not woman enough by the patriarchy as they often have less "feminine" attributes, they have struggles enough to be seen as women, but all female people are women and deserve to be protected by feminism, regardless of their chromosomes.

sure, but 'female' is such a vague word in itself, that can be used in various definitions. The TRAs aren't going to agree with our definition of a biology-based 'female'. Of course an actual program like this would have to be a lot more detailed

TRAs are not going to agree with the scientific definition of "female", no, but female is not a vague word, they merely want people to believe it is. Science and medicine has managed to successfully sex as either male or female every single human who has ever been sexed, no matter how complicated or atypical they may be (I'm sure you know this) and I think it's important to acknowledge that.

of course, i just think that TRAs are gonna go 'well a trans woman thinks and presents female so she is female!!' while even they don't dare to lie about chromosomes (yet)

Oh they do lie about chromosomes already! There's quite a movement of trans people (usually males) self-diagnosing themselves as intersex and claiming to be actually female. Alex Alicit on twitter documents their lies and how they're appropriating intersex struggles (they do really like appropriating things ...). It's extremely disturbing.

pennygadget #transphobia ovarit.com

About TIFs and trans activsim...

I noticed something during discussions with other people here that I thought warranted it's own post:

The Trans Rights movement didn't take off after the rape & murder of Teena Brandon. Nor did it take off in the wake of the movie about her life/death winning a ton of awards.Contrast this with how the gay rights movement got a jumpstart after the murder of Matthew Shepherd

The trans rights movement didn't take off when that bearded lady went on Oprah multiple times claiming to be "The First Pregnant Man". Nor did any other pregnant TIFs trigger any significant change.

The trans movement didn't take off when Chastity Bono declared herself a man. People only cared about her transition because her mother is an iconic celebrity. Its also important to note that the press treated Chastity like shit when she identified as a lesbian by mocking her appearance and constantly comparing Chastity to her sex symbol mother (even though Cher is more botox than human at this point). But, the moment Chastity became a man named Chaz, suddenly everyone had only nice things to say about her and didn't constantly tell her how fat and ugly she was.

NONE of those big news events triggered this wave of trans activism and trans inclusive laws that we see today. Nobody cared about Teena Brandon once the hype from the movie was over. The big event that finally got the ball rolling was..... Bruce Jenner posing in lingerie on a magazine cover. After that, he literally got trophies for being "The Greatest Woman Ever"! And laws rapidly began to change after he became a media darling in 2015

Various TERFs #conspiracy #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

(littleowl12)

I think the general theory is that TRAs were quietly changing policies in universities and more "woke" institutions/companies before 2015. When gay marriage became federal law, there were no more gay rights to advocate for, so lgbT orgs switched all their powerful and well organized efforts to trans "rights".

And considering how gay people are treated in Africa, South America, and parts of Asia, they could have put their money and time to good use! But no, I think they wanted easy work and easy money at that point. Going to other parts of the world is HARD.

(Only_Women_Are_Women)
I don't know how violated men feel by TIF. I'd say young guys would feel violated by a teen girl in their sex-segregated areas, and gay men don't want women chasing them. But TIF are still women and tend to lack that pushy entitlement that is more common in males. And I'm not sure if TIF get aroused by violating men's spaces. TIM totally get aroused by violating women's spaces.

I also don't think that anyone much takes TIF seriously. A woman with short hair, no makeup, in a suit and tie, whatever, it's quite a low-key visual. Put a 6'2" burly male in a dress and heels and everyone looks.

(salty-tomorrow)
I think also, a woman wanting to be a man is almost... expected? Understandable, that she would want to be seen as the “superior” sex. While a man wanting to be a woman is a “step down,” a relinquishing of privilege, so it seems more subversive.

Various TERFs #crackpot #moonbat #racist #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Libfem logic when it comes to how media influences people

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(pennygadget)

They'll throw tantrums over shit like sitcoms from 20 years ago, but videos like 'big black cocks destroy tiny teen' are simply great!

The same woke White people who will dox a 12 year old White girl for posting a picture of her cornrows on Instagram will defend porn with titles like "Spicy Latina B!tch Gets Gang Banged For A Green Card" Woke politics has ZERO consistency! And yet it is still colonizing everything

(questioningtw)
This is why I don't take libfems seriously. They will call people out for the awful crimes of white women doing Yoga or taking Salsa classes; but are totes okay with porn that literally calls women slurs and is ACTUALLY racist.

(lainSimpleTailor)
Because libfems usually only criticize other women. They know it's much harder to confront men, so instead, everything is women's fault. Feminism that is comfortable for men and never challenges them will change nothing.

(levitation)
not to mention pornsick men literally condition themselves with orgasms to think racism and sexual violence are acceptable and desirable. idiot teen boys and young men are using porn as sex ed and brutalizing teenage girls and women. but the woke crowd would rather argue about children's cartoons being fascist or whatever and then turn around and jerk it to rape, child porn, racist porn, porn ABOUT SLAVERY, etc. it's disgusting.

Luckystar #moonbat #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Polling from 13 States Reveals Widespread Disapproval of “Gender Identity” Policies

Even in California people are not buying this crap

Putting female prisoners -- economically vulnerable, disproportionately women of color, an overwhelming majority of whom have already been victims of sexual violence -- at risk of being retraumatized, assaulted, raped, and impregnated by male sexual predators is NOT "progressive".

It is being framed as such by fauxgressive misogynists, who are bankrolled by big pharma and/or jumping on the latest fashionable bandwagon for latte liberals.

We are seeing some common ground between the left and right here because being anti-rape is one of those common sense policies that shouldn't be political. We see radical feminists speaking at the Heritage Foundation, not because they are secret alt-right neonazi Bible hugging conservative bigots, but because the policies the Democrats are putting forth right now are genuinely horrible.

You have people like me, San Francisco liberals who voted Democrat their whole lives, have been huge LGBT allies their whole lives, who no longer feel comfortable voting for Democrats. That's not because I suddenly support Republicans. It is because both parties have abandoned women. I'm just praying American women can have at least one party that supports their basic human rights. Abortion isn't enough, Democrats. We deserve the right to not get raped in the first place.

kopfinhand #moonbat #transphobia ovarit.com

Parallels Between TIMs and Police (and Priests Too)

1. Maleness and power are worshipped and are seen as one
2. Women suffer at the hands of these men, but things only get done when another man is affected.
3. They are above the law.
4. When they commit crimes, they are not punished but shuffled into obscurity.
5. They cannot be questioned lest you be deemed TERF, anti-country, heretic.

If you have anymore examples, please add.

rezkidsinlove #moonbat #transphobia ovarit.com

They need to hear that some cultures having special roles for gender-non-conforming people does not mean people didn’t know what male and female were. I hear the Two-Spirit identity used soooo much in this discourse, especially in Canada

It really is ridiculous.

TRAs/libfems'll say things like 'Native American cultures were so enlightened! They worshipped two-spirits! They were largely matriarchal, they respected women, women were so precious to the tribes!'

And like - that point is debatable, but have you thought WHY they might have held women in such high esteem?

Because women were the ones that gave birth and created life, you absolute morons! Native women weren't celebrated (if they were celebrated) because some 'uwu so girly, so soft' aesthetic. It was because they were able to carry children and give birth. If there WAS such a high prevalence of two-spirit-ism as they say there was, certainly those two-spirit people weren't treated 'the exact same as women!'

Like, just thinking pragmatically. An enemy tribe is attacking your village -- you have a woman able to help birth new members of the tribe, vs some mentally ill man who wears womens clothes. WHO ARE YOU SAVING?

(Likewise, a woman who thinks herself a man decides she wants to join the war party -- you think the men are going to entertain this idea, when she's one of a handful of women of child bearing age in the tribe? You think they're going to risk it? Theres a reason two-spirit was mostly a male thing.)

It really is a breathtaking lack of thinking critically, 'if X is true, then therefore Y...' They really think all native tribes lived in harmony in teepees, smoking weed, making flower crowns, and not knowing a penis from a vagina up until Christopher Columbus landed on our shores.

starry & rezkidsinlove #moonbat #racist #transphobia ovarit.com

(starry)
Although thinking about this, I wonder what the ethnicity split is among TERFs. Since trans culture is such a white thing (generally only, of course), maybe that reflects on TERFs as well? Although POC are also way more likely to see the light earlier in these issues, lol.

(rezkidsinlove)
You know?

I was watching TikToks by native creators recently, and there was one that was talking about old stories in our collective native cultures, signs for when the apocalypse was on its way.

Some of them you kind of have to think about in an abstract way. For instance, "A large black poisonous snake will slither across the land" could be a foretelling of the Dakota Access Pipeline.

One I remember is "Men will dress as if they are women, and women will dress as if they are men."

Now, I'm not sure if I generally believe these (I'm not super religious or traditional in my own culture. Another prophecy warns tattoos and piercings are another sign and I have a number of those 😅) but its certainly a little spooky when its all stacked together.

No matter what you want to think, though, its pretty plain that Native cultures always knew there was a difference in the sexes, there were always gender roles, and that mixing and matching them were definitely taboo, if not outright feared, enough that this prophecy has been echoed through the generations. We didn't live in some androgynous, genderless utopia where transwomen were worshipped "like gods" like they like to say they were 🙄

adun & zuubat #moonbat #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

(adun)

all the TIFs there demanding to be called men but also demanding to attend a women’s college completely broke my brain...

This is something I see a lot. I feel like the ultraliberal kind of TIFs seems to think they can have their cake and eat it, too. Probably because they recognise what BS transitioning is and that it doesn't save them from people treating them like crap for being female, but they hold onto their super special identities anyways because it's so much more interesting than just a boring old woman going through boring old misogyny. This brand of TIF also tends to be all about "genderfuckery" which means they don't even make an attempt to "pass", leading to more frustrations than usual over people not being able to delude themselves that they're the opposite sex.

I definitely prefer them to the women filled to the brim with internalised misogyny who will rush to proclaim #notLikeOtherGirls for male approval, but that at least seems more straightforward and backwards in the usual ways we're familiar with, than this.

(zuubat)
Oh, yeah, that NYT story of the TIFs having been accepted at a women's college because they were, you know, women, and after "transitioning" demanding a thousand-and-one ridiculous accommodations from the other women: students, faculty, staff, and administrators. AND GETTING THEM!!!

I all-capped the second clause b/c for me that was the most demoralizing thing: Even for pretend men, the women fell all over themselves to be nice but no matter how nice it was still not enough. A few women desisted, and they were doxxed (or whatever the IRL version of that is) so badly that they declined to give their names to the NYT.

lulululululu & bellatrixbells #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

(lulululululu)
HAHAHA i went to a women’s college too and I came here to comment this but you already did so I don’t have to!

I graduated before TIMs were allowed in, so I don’t know how that’s affected the school, but all the TIFs there demanding to be called men but also demanding to attend a women’s college completely broke my brain...

(bellatrixbells)
What the actual mind clusterfuck.

(lulululululu)
Yeah. One argument that I heard frequently that really broke my brain was that the college wasn't actually intended to be a women's college, it was intended to be an "all oppressed genders college" but since people didn't know about TIFs back then, women were the only oppressed gender around to be admitted... but since we know about TIFs now, we should let them in as an oppressed gender. LMAO.

In reality, I think they just liked the romantic and sexual attention they got for being some of the few "men" around so were grasping at straws to justify being "literally men" at a women's college.

(bellatrixbells)
wait WHAT!! holy fucking hell

Please do not break my brain any further 😂😂😂😉

Various TERFs #crackpot #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Is it entitlement or disillusion? Or both?

(sensusquaeram)
In my experience with an adult AGP, it was delusion. As in, clinical delusion. It started out as noticing that depression lifted with cross-dressing and progressed into full-on Trans-identification, paranoia, and rage toward anyone who wouldn't affirm the madness.

(Lolo)
I see people's "gender identity" as nothing more than fashion choices that sometimes include cosmetic surgery. I won't call priest "father" and I won't call a homeopath "doctor" and I won't call a man "she". If that makes them sad and cry, I am glad because fuck them. Their "activism" is no different than fundamentalist religious types pushing their beliefs on everyone else. They lobby and succeed in inflicting horribly detrimental outcomes on women (especially bipoc) I would never consider dating a scientologist in a million years, yes all of them, they are all kooks. I would never willingly fuck anyone who weighed 600lbs, yes because they are 600lbs. What's the difference?

(RisingUp)
There was a bit in Irreversible Damage where an escaped member of the trans cult mentioned that she had trained herself not to be able to tell the difference between men and women in her “queer” circles. (She recovered the ability when she exited the cult.)

I thought that explained a lot - many of them are so autobrainwashed they really can’t tell and think we can’t either.

Somehow though I bet the men in those circles can tell the difference when deciding who to creep on.

(Mokingbird12)
I’m sorry, but why do you even entertain these people. Once you’ve heard the idiot out just say bye. Actions speak louder than words sometimes. Also, most people can’t even be bothered to hate them. They just think they are pathetic and annoying. The mistake we made was feeling sorry for them.

GenderHeretic & CleanSlate #conspiracy #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Warning: Violence Against Gender Criticals Erupts In Canada - Brazen She

(GenderHeretic)
Holy fuck, that video is terrifying. TRAs around the world are escalating with their thuggery. Just last week they assaulted and terrorised feminists at a protest, painting a sign on the raised base of the statue the women were standing on saying to shoot them, and now that TRAs know they can get away with that, the violence is spreading fast.

Fuck. I hope he’ll be all right. I also hope that the freak brigade being openly violent to straight men will peak even more people (though odd are Canadian media will try to silence this).

I sure hope so. They've been assaulting and terrorising women for years and no one gives a fuck.

(CleanSlate)

Anyone up in Canada can give us the skinny on that?

Total media blackout, except for the occasional story on Rebel Media (internet only). RM tends to focus on the clowery of Yaniv and not serious stories like prison or drugging and mutilating children.

They're getting bolder if they're going after dudes. These cowards usually opt to bully women

They sent rape and murder threats to the super straight guys just like they were women. Honestly, I was surprised.

Various TERFs #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: r/superstraight gets banned...

(There_wont_be_blood)
I was learning a lot from that subreddit. I didn't realize how many biological, hetero men had to deal with Trans "women" on dating apps. So, why don't the men speak up more?

(TheExorcistofLies)
They don’t have reason to. They don’t get harassed, threatened, doxxed at nearly the same rates as women. A lot of times a man is even able to say out loud what would get a woman banned. Their spaces don’t get invaded like lesbians’. The threat of violence from TRAs just isn’t there ...yet. It might happen that TRAs try to go after dudes but I doubt it. TRAs are cowards who know they can bully women with impunity. Going after normie straight dudes is very risky.

(LunarMoose)
I just pulled the research and.....like.... NO women want to date transmen. And virtually NO men want to date transwomen. It's just a fact. Across a sample of heterosexual,lesbian, gay, bisexual, queer, and trans individuals, 87.5% indicated that they would not consider dating a trans person. (2018 study) And that's the optimistic read. If you take out all GNC folks and stick with just straight women and men: 1.8 per cent of straight women and 3.3 per cent of straight men saying they would consider it. I mean, thanks reddit for trying to change people's natural sexual attraction.....but NO THANKS

(Avery805)
I think this information should be shared with dysphoric kids considering transition. The main narrative that you will become “stunning and brave” makes otherwise unpopular and confused teenagers think that this gonna solve all their problems when in reality there is a big surprise.

Various TERFs #crackpot #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: WA DOC employee reports (150) men are claiming to be women to transfer prisons

(calming-tea)

"But this would never happen! No one will abuse these policies!"

You got it wrong. That was the party line when we were at war with Eurasia. Now it is all about "not that many anyway"

(mumpledforearm)
I was just having a conversation with someone on Reddit about this because of the recent events at the women's prison in Kitchener, Ontario. Their argument was "well, they think like a woman, who cares if they have a penis? They're a woman so should be in a women's prison." Are you kidding me? Like prisons are separated into men's and women's because of the way people think. It's not because of, I don't know, men are physically larger and stronger than most women and it's dangerous to have them in the same prison? No, couldn't be that.

(Only_Women_Are_Women)
How can anyone believe for two seconds that a man could actually be a woman? That makes zero sense. None. And we have thousands of adults in high-ranking positions playing along with this. Anyone playing along with this should be convicted as an accessory. "Well, these men say they're women so...." So they are INSANE (or taking advantage of the situation). And anyone who plays along with this shameless lie is also insane. "But it's who they are!" Sexual predators. That's who they are. Not something to celebrate.

(SisterCellophane)
The vast majority of the women in prison probably wouldn't even be there if they hadn't already been traumatised by men's abuse. The rape/DV/CSA rates are sky high.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Aussie Male Who Identifies as a Black Lesbian Says "Kill All TERFs" is Equivalent to "Kill All Nazis" | Women Are Human

(hmimperialtortie)
Is this fucking scumbag pretending to be Aboriginal? Does he also identify as someone who can spell, with his “blak” nonsense? And how many women has he raped so far? Transbian = rapist is usually a safe bet.

“Blak” is a term commonly used by Aboriginal Australians who wish to take the power out of the word “black” that was originally used against them. The article states he is an Aboriginal male so I assume his identifying as 'Blak' is not that much of an issue.

Hmm. I wonder.

(Researcher1536 )

Yea this is him!!! It’s colonization on steroids!!!!

He'll be applauded for his "feminine" bravery and commitment to BIPOC lives. It's insanity. Men truly get away with everything.

(bisexualradfem)
"The great thing about being a Black lesbian is that everytime I punch, it's up." Fucking hell, they are the most pathological colonisers I've seen.

(HessaHein)
I can't understand the delusion. No one outside of woke circles would ever see him or treat him as an actual black lesbian.

(IronicWolf)
It basically reveals their true motivations: get to be violent and maintain a mantle of moral virtue.

(vauqueline)

It's the heat, it has to be. Woman-face might not be a holy cow, but black-face is. And this guy thinks he can get away with appropriating race and sex? The only logical conclusuon: the Aussie heat melted his brain.

There was a TIM in Canada that made news a little while back for going trans-racial and styling himself as from India. It's fine for him to pretend he's a sex that he's not, apparently, but not to pretend he's an ethnicity he's not.

Various Commenters #conspiracy #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Silly meme - but might explain why the movement has gained so much traction?

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(pennygadget)

AOC is right there fueling the fire. This shit is going to shred her credibility. She's not going to be a major political force in her 40s and 50s.

(XX_Power)
If this is the hill the left wants to die on, the left will die. I always considered myself a leftist but this year I'll likely vote conservative for the first time in my entire life, because in my country they're the only ones against the self ID law.

I will be voting conservative in my country for the first time. They’ve done a little trans pandering but it was pretty meaningless and nothing compared to the liberals.

I'm quite lucky that in my country, Germany, the conservatives are not that anti woman in general, it is Merkels party after all.

(RawSienna)
I’m doing the same. I will not stand for gender indoctrination being forced by the state onto kids, or for sex offender’s rights being enshrined into law, or for women being legally stripped of our boundaries. Fuck any political party who stands for this utter garbage.

Some of the most vehement trans & non-binary TRAs I know are rich kids desperate for a narrative in which they get to be the poor oppressed victim.

I’ll never forget that Harvard freak out from a few years back over Halloween costumes. Literally the most privileged youth on planet earth acting like snivelling toddlers. Its not surprising that the same trust fund brats who cried over Halloween costumes are 100% on board with trans shit

(diapason)

A lot of high profile TIMs are also wealthy, so I'm honestly not thinking this is too far out of bounds for truth.

Jennifer Pritzker, Caitlin Jenner, Martine Rothblatt, the Wachowski 'Sisters'… yep. Plus they've got the backing of lots of drug companies and executives, and some other billionaire philanthropists too

littleowl12 #transphobia ovarit.com

How come it's never on trans people to "be kind?"

Some asshole on Twitter was banging on about how he would rather teach his "kid" to "lose well" than to be unkind, referring to boys in girls' sports. People pointed out that he could therefore put his sons in boys' sports teams where they would then have the opportunity to lose well.

Oh, but that's not what he meant!

One TIM actually tried to explain that as someone truly dysphoric, he'd NEVER want to be on a girl's team. Beating them all and crushing them with ease would only underline his male body, not validate his feminine identity. Mr. Be Kind didn't understand this and asked why he wouldn't want to be on a team with girls who shared his "gender identity" and the TIM added that he'd feel ashamed for cheating girls, especially with his male body. And that's a very good point- I don't believe that men who enter women's sports are dysphoric in the least. They're very happy with their male bodies.

Mr. Be Kind was stumped on that one.

It's never on trans people to "Be Kind" to anyone else. Creeping family members out by naming yourself after one of them? Tough. Scaring women by being in their vulnerable space? Tough. Taking advantage of sexually inexperienced young men by lying about your actual sex? Tough. Hounding lesbians and ruining them/their spaces? Tough. Destroying fair competition in a sport? Tough. Comparing your bullshit to the difficulties black women face everyday? Tough.

It's all take, take, take, and they don't feel they have to contribute anything in particular, for any reason.

RawSienna #moonbat #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: A brilliant observation on treating prostitution like a career

Those middle/upper-middle class brats are educated enough to be able to criticize the inequality of capitalism and racism within the scope of their little privileged bubble, but they can't see that there are people whose lives are affected by their liberal gender politics, children who will be groomed into prostitution, and young women who don't get to choose their career path.

But who cares about the actual poor people or children? In their minds, they are proletariat heroes who will defend their male friends' rights to enter women's bathrooms, thus saving their lives!

There’s nothing more privileged than wokeness. We know this because it actively makes society worse in the name of making it better. It’s taken race-baiting to an art form and is so misogynistic it’s even making the word ‘woman’ verboten. Above all, it’s all about it’s own narcissism and self-righteousness. ‘Right side of history’, indeed.

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

(XX_Power)

Why is he making this sound like it's normal to catfish people. He's raped men, and is now asking how to rape women. Burn in hell.

At least with respect to this women have it "better" in that lesbian women are likely impossible to fool with ballsack labia, while the poor men who were raped by that dude were not so lucky.

He said in a different comment that the only “harassment” he got was from the mean lesbians. Yeah dude, because they know you’re a liar more than anyone?

As a straight i really feel for my lesbian sisters. Already marginalized through being female and homosexual, and now this shit

I have seen photos of "neovaginas" and instantly felt nauseous while vaginas are attractive to me lol yeah he ain't fooling those women at all.

As a straight who is into penis, i feel the same about phalloplasty, it feels like from a horror film

(Peachy)
Because some of these Trancels seem to forget: NO ONE OWES YOU SEX.

Yep. Vaginas are natural and self cleaning. "Neovaginas" are mutilated ballsacks with anal fluid.

(RawSienna)

He has a pic of his ballva in his post history, and it does indeed look like a ballsack.

“Ballva” This is amazing 😂😂😂

(Verdandi)
They look so fucking bizarre, and they're in the wrong spot. Vaginas don't come out of the front of your body, it's exactly where the penis is. It's not like comically in front, but it's SUPER easy to clock.

A. penis. is. not. just. an. enlarged. clitoris.

A penis is essentially a cloaca. It's halfway there. Dudes are so fucking genetically defective all the tubes down there smashed together and they literally piss out of the thing they jizz out of, it's fucking gross. Is having a penis the reason NONE of them can properly wipe their own asses??

Various TERFs #pratt #quack #transphobia ovarit.com

(bea)
Transwomen have female brains 🤡

Okay, so i'm tired of people telling me this bullshit that transwomen think like "cis" women or have female brains. Do you know some articles about that?

(LOriginedumonde)
Whenever a TRA starts spouting off about the lady brain all I can think of is how some racist whites used to claim that other races had different brain sizes, and therefore were less intelligent.

(MeNsTrUaToR27)
Even if it is proven by science, so are the eggs in my ovaries. If that doesn't make me a female, neither does your dumb brain scan. You're just trying to change one "arbitrary" sex characteristic for another.

The last thing most trans people actually want is for transitioning to come with brain structure requirements. They know that would really whittle the trans community down quite a bit, and there's power in numbers.

(firebird)
Someone else mentioned Gina Rippon, so I thought this interview in which she mentions how she's asked by trans people to "prove" their brains are of the opposite sex (which is impossible according to her) might interest you: https://time.com/5669513/gina-rippon-interview-gender-and-our-brains/

(Lilith-Fair)
Of all the TRAs arguments, this one is the craziest imo. A vagina and uterus don't prove you're a woman, and a penis doesn't prove you're a man. So the most visibly telling body parts don't indicate you're your sex. But the brain, which has no distinctive differences based on sex, somehow can? That's just crazytown. And by their own argument, isn't it transphobic to claim a woman's brain only belongs to women? Isn't that transphobic against an AMAB who identifies as a woman but unfortunately was born with a man's brain? And omg wouldn't someone please think of the enbies!

It's all such nonsense. Their arguments turn on themselves.

lulululululu #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: More GC comments and peak transing on r*ddit over trans issues and men in women's sports.

https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueUnpopularOpinion/comments/lkl0ga/this_subreddit_has_way_too_many_transphobic_posts/

Is the tide turning? Or is that subreddit just less likely to have woke people on it, since it's about speaking one's mind and not about being politically correct?

My favorite comment on that thread, lol:

“Transphobia isn't a real thing. It was literally made up to make people feel bad for using common sense.”

😆

Nah, I think the comments on that thread are pretty reflective of the opinions of the general population of the US.

I used to have a job that required me to travel all around the US, so I think I got a good sense of what Americans who aren’t extremely online think. Most, especially on the younger end, are willing to respect transgender men or women at least as far as new names and pronouns (maybe not so much non-binary people because everyone can tell it’s ridiculous attention-seeking behavior) but that’s about it. They don’t support men in women’s sports, they don’t support all these ridiculous changes in language and they’re usually pretty angry when they find out about these things happening. All of these things are being pushed without a popular mandate.

It just goes to show how much TRA ideology has overstayed its welcome. If they had just stuck with the basics like asking people to use their new names or pronouns, they probably would’ve succeeded, but they’ve pushed for so much more and for increasingly ridiculous things that the house of cards is going to fall down.

LoveSquirrels & MyBodyMyself #transphobia ovarit.com

(LoveSquirrels)
Parents across the US demonstrated in front of gender clinics today

A new organization, LGBFightback.org, organized with the Parents of ROGD Kids to hold actions in Philly, Chicago, Hartford, Ontario, DFW and Los Angeles. Check out LGBFB's website or Twitter feed for tons of great pictures. Unfortunately we were met by TRA's including one very angry and confrontational MTF. But we also had some fairly civil conversations with the FTMs. The LGBTQ++++ establishment in our state has gone completely bananas about it, over some moms with signs!

If your message made people uncomfortable, that's a good sign. If more demonstrations like this are planned for the future, I would recommend trying to get some detransitioners publicly involved as well. There are quite a few who were transitioned as minors.

I am sure future actions will involve different groups besides or in addition to parents, thanks for the good idea.

(MyBodyMyself)
You are the REAL stunning and brave! It takes a LOT of courage to stand up to bullies - especially when they get away with playing the victim.. Seriously — if Trans-activism wasn’t a cult — then why are they so aggressive about anyone raising any questions and so ready to shut down all dialog? Why do they label anyone questioning medical interventions for kids as “transphobic”... I don’t know a single person who is transphobic. But I do know some moms who aren’t keen on their autistic non-conforming daughters being put on puberty blockers and moms or gay kids who are made to feel bad or somehow inferior for being gay or lesbian. This madness just has to stop! I’m over-the-moon happy that this protest happened and I just hope that the powers that be don’t just label this as “transphobic” and actually listen with their ears and their hearts for once!

Various TERFs #transphobia ovarit.com

(dixiechick547)
That was one of the things that stood out so starkly in the TERF Wars video. All the women looked like normal human beings. The TIMs look like pornified stereotypes. Being a woman = being pretty/hot/sexy to them. They used to claim that they were so performative because of ‘hate keeping’ requirements. Now there is no gate keeping and they’re more pornified than ever. I don’t expect any better from men, but I’m stunned so many women fail to see this and be insulted by it.

(kalina)

It's not just about looking better, it's also about looking female. You could take the most beautiful no make up TIM and you'd still be able to clock him immediately because of his body shape compared to the average woman's bodyshape.

yeah thats what gets me, this idea that a man could ever somehow look more feminine than an actual woman. The butchest butch looks more feminine than the most dolled up TiM because SHE'S ACTUALLY A WOMAN.

(hmimperialtortie)

I've honestly never seen a TiM I would describe as "beautiful" (or any male, for that matter).

I find men pretending to be women skin-crawlingly awful, whether they’re the usual Yaniv-standard fugly or the uncanny-valley White variety. There’s no beauty in any of them. They’re caricatures, grotesques. They have well and truly earned the label “pigs in wigs” whatever the rules here say about us using it.

ocean_grove #transphobia ovarit.com

I've peaked my parents

I've been talking to my parents (~70) for a few weeks about this community. They had NO idea about trans women, had never heard the slur TERF and had no idea about the erasure of lesbians (am lesbian). Obv didn't want to tell them about "girl dick", that's a bit much.

Anyway, to say they were shocked is under-selling it.

They had read an article in the newspaper about "chest feeding" and were so shocked that they thought it must be a prank. I told them about the Sydney rockpools and my Dad particularly was furious.

All of us here are are peaked - how do we reach out to others? Without scaring them off?

I'm in Australia and going to bed soon, so might not be able to reply for a while. Thank you for listening x

Various TERFs #conspiracy #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: Yes, there were women involved in the Capitol Attack, but this is not one of them.

(boudica)

Why isn't this being talked about? People need to realize that this is a non-partisan issue. Where will this "woman" be placed in prison? Where is this mythical right-wing trans-hate? He seemed pretty well accepted in the right wing circles.

TRAs never claim the perpetrators of crimes, only the victims. It fits in better with their narrative. They'll keep ignoring this dude or say he's "not really trans" if it does become a news story.

I’m having a hard time finding references to Jeremy Watkins on Google tho. Where is the documentation that this is a TIM??

I posted some of the only available evidence so far over on /o/ThisNeverHappens: https://ovarit.com/o/ThisNeverHappens/17893/us-capitol-riot-prosecutors-say-champaign-county-trans-identified-males-training

There isn't much, just a couple of mentions of his previous name being attributed to him by the US Army.

(bellatrixbells)
"Watkins, who served the country under a different name"

I see they threw the deadname down the memory hole. Fuck you CNN. This is a man. The different name he served as is his BIRTH name.

They're hiding the truth for fear of "outing him", but what they're effectively doing is preventing people from making up their own mind about him.

(DraDra)
...I have been noticing that these dudes r everywhere. Imagine what it will be like in 5, even 10 years from now 🙄🙄

(diapason)

CNN is full woke.

They were early adopters of the "referring to women with dehumanizing language" trend

(UnstirringCoffee)

The Oath Keepers is an extremely patriarchal group, I do not believe for one second that an actual woman would be even allowed in their organization, let alone be a leader.

They seem fine with transwomen though

Various TERFs #sexist #transphobia #wingnut ovarit.com

RE: Mississippi votes to ban transgender athletes from girls' and women's teams | TheHill

(tervacious)
...and everyone will be like oh it's Mississippi, so backward! And blue states will double down and write some bizarro woke laws enshrining TIMs in girls sports but with some extra woman-hating flavor that will pass with 100% of the dems voting for it. Even though with everything else dems don't agree on anything and wind up splintering before getting anything passed. emits 10 min long sigh

(chromodorisrex)
Who knew it would be the liberals cheering for the swift death of women’s sports. Such feminism.

(NotCis)

WE MUST PROTECT THE MEN ATHLETICALLY GIFTED TRANS WOMEN! tHeY'Re oPpReSsEd.

I know right? How are all the TW soooo naturally gifted? Must be their work ethic because it cannot possibly be anything else!

The headline is so misleading. It bans BOYS from competing on girls' teams, not ALL trans-identifying teens. No, we don't want to "ban transgender students from sports" - we want boys to play on the boys' teams.

(vauqueline)
It really just goes to show that no one gives a flying fuck about any trans other than XY trans. What does that look like, again? Oh yeah...misogyny!

(worried19)
Exactly. No one fucking cares if natal girls play on boys' teams. Also I hate how it's framed as an issue of "children." We're not talking about 5 year olds or 10 year olds. We're talking about natal male athletes competing in high school sports. Post-puberty. Therein lies the issue. If this was about elementary school, no one would care.

(KBash)
Not true. Prepubescent boys have a notable throwing advantage over prepubescent girls, and even over grown women. It’s biological and innate to the male sex.

XX_Power #sexist #transphobia ovarit.com

RE: now i'm a hot idiot!...

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spoileranna phylaxis @quatoria

i used to be a tense and anxious programmer boy in a computer science program, now ilm a hot idiot with cute tits, if you work hard this could happen to you, too

They wish they were a fifth as attractive as they think they do. You're still an ugly incel and everyone can tell Andy. No one thinks your moobs are "cute tits".

I wish they were at least somewhat attractive, but as a straight woman they just look like destroyed men, complete slaves to the cooom

I had a roommate like this. Gorgeous man. (Even my mother said, after meeting him in TIM garb, “he is a very handsome man”). Went on hormones, and now he looks, as you said, like a destroyed man.

So ironic that quite some TIMs could have had women find them genuinely attractive and want to be with them and want to have sex with them. But no, they have to do a bad woman face and chase after lesbians, only to end up forever alone and becoming more and more bitter and hateful.

Case in point: Blaire White was a cute guy but now he looks like a kardashian after a bad car accident.

Various Commenters #sexist #transphobia #wingnut ovarit.com

RE: The future libfems want for us...

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spoilerLiberal Arts U 2020

"You know why we have to wear these, our bodies are invalidating to trans women"

(Calico)
Their heads might explode if they had to choose between validating transwomen AT ALL COSTS or potentially committing islamophobic cultural appropriation by stealing their proud history of misogynistic dress.

And boy oh boy, those are two groups the libs love to coddle that I want to see go head to head over conflicting interests so bad.

(pennygadget)

The men will win. Muslim women have already been told they’re transphobic for not wanting to remove their head coverings around TIMs.

And now these women are in a classic lose/lose situation. Go uncovered around male TIMs and be branded "whores" on one side. And being branded as bigots if they make the opposite choice. The only way they "win" is staying locked in their fathers homes forever

(Verdandi)
Trans wins every single time. There is literally no exceptions. They scream at Muslim women to "get over" their irrational fear of dicks.

(Bogos)
Thank you, these issues are very much in parallel among liberals. You would think the only atrocities in the wold were happening in Israel, the Palestinians and other Arab countries in particular are completely innocent, Jews don’t count as an oppressed group, and anti US sentiment is something to be encouraged.

The cognitive disconnect and black and white thinking liberals claim to be so innocent of is very present in their understanding of TRA and the Middle East.

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